THE RIVER AND INTO OUR WATER  MANAGEMENT CAUSING FLOODING AS  WELL. PUBLIC WORKS IS A LOT OF  WORK BEFORE THE STORM TO MAKE  SURE THAT OUR WATER LEVELS  POSSIBLE FOR WEAKNESS AND THE  WAR AGAINST STORM SURGE AND  FLOODING IN OUR WATER SYSTEMS  IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL  INFORMATION  ♪ ON THAT WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL  ABOUT A LOT FOLKS  >> HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL SOME OF THE  AQUATICS MANAGER WITHIN OUR  PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT  WERE HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH  PORT AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO  TALK TO EVERYONE ABOUT OUR  FLOW FOR LIFE PROGRAM WE  RECOGNIZE THAT NATIONALLY  UNINTENTIONAL DROWNING IS THE  LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR  CHILDREN THAT ARE UNDER THE  AGE.  >> ALL RIGHT GOOD MORNING  TODAY IS MONDAY JULY FIRST  2024 AND IT IS 09:00AM WE'RE  IN THE CITY CHAMBERS AND I  CALL THE CITY COMMISSION  WORKSHOP TO ORDER. THIS WILL  BE A HYBRID MEETING THIS  MEETING HAS BEEN PROPERLY  NOTICED AND WILL BE CONDUCTED  AS A HYBRID MEETING REQUIRING  THE USE OF COMMUNICATIONS  MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, A PHYSICAL  QUORUM OF VOTING MEMBERS IS  PRESENT IN CITY COMMISSION  CHAMBERS, HYBRID MEETING  ALLOWED VOTING MEMBERS TO  ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE WITHOUT  BEING PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN  THE ROOM WITH HIS FORM HAS  CONVENED. ROLL CALL WE HAVE  VICE MAYOR STOKES MYSELF MAYOR  WHITE COMMISSIONER LANGDON  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL ALSO  HAVE CITY ATTORNEY. WELL I SAY  THAT NOW A WAY GOES ONLINE TO  SHOOT HERE. I WILL NOW HEAR  COMMISSIONER EMRICH.  >> MARTIN. GOOD MORNING AS  BOUGHT HAS AUTHORIZED BY CITY  COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021  DASH I AM ATTENDING THE HYBRID  MEETING COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA  TECHNOLOGIES.  >> EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL  CONDITION, INCLUDING MANY  DISABILITIES PREVENTING ME  FROM ATTENDING THIS MEETING IN  PERSON AT THIS TIME, THANK  YOU.  >> THANK YOU SO LOOKING FOR A  MOTION TO ACCEPT THE USE OF  CMT THIS HYBRID MEETING SO.  >> SECOND. ALL RIGHT YOU GUYS  JUMP TO LIKE ME ALL RIGHT WE  HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE  MAYOR STOKES TO APPROVE THE  USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID  MEETING AND THAT WAS SECONDED  BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON WE  WILL HAVE A VOICE VOTE. VICE  MAYOR S MAYOR DIDN'T SAY YES  AND COMMISSIONER ELRICH. YES  OKAY PASSES 4 TO ONE. NOW I  CAN ANNOUNCE ALSO PRESIDENT WE  HAVE CITY MANAGER FLETCHER  CITY ATTORNEY SLAYTON WE ALSO  HAVE ASSISTANT CITY CLERK  POWELL BOARD SPECIAL OVER GOOD  TO SEE YOU EYES HERE FIRE  CHIEF TITUS IS BACK THERE AND  WE HAVE CAPTAIN POSSIBLE HERE.  YES, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT,  PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. MY  FAVORITE PART OF THE MEETING.  AND THAT MEETING.  >> GIVES ME A LOT OF ANXIETY  PARKS DIRECTOR SANDY DOLLARS  YOUR SHOW THAT.  >> OF THE UNITED STATES OF  AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC  FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION  UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH  LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.  >> THANK YOU DIRECTOR. DO WE  HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THIS  WE DO OKAY.  >> COMMENTS SUBMITTED BY  ROBBINS AND SENT A. GOOD  MORNING SINCE THIS MEETING  WILL BE CENTERED AROUND PARKS  RECREATION I WILL AGAIN BRING  UP MY PERFECT PARK LOCATION  RECOMMENDATION PRESENTED TO  THIS COMMISSION AND OTHER  DEPARTMENTS AT PAST MEETINGS.  PARCELS ON THE OTHER CORNER  BISCAYNE BOULEVARD IN PONCE DE  LEON AND HIS 3.6 2 ACRES. IT  IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF  SEVERAL FLORIDA SCRUB JAY  ZONES AND IS ALSO LISTED ON  CITY'S PROBED A PARTIAL  LISTING IS A HIGHLY SENSITIVE  PARCEL AND SUPPORTS OUR  FLORIDA A POPULATION. A LOSS A  LOT PLACE IN APRIL 2007 SOLD  FOR $850,000. THE CURRENT  PRICE WAS LISTED AT 1.2  MILLION DOLLARS. AS WAS  PREVIOUSLY STATED BY  DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THIS  PARCEL IS UNDER CONTRACT. THEY  ARE MIND THE CITY OF THE  FALLING YUAN IT IS NOT THE  ORIGINAL OWNER, THEREFORE  THERE IS NO CITY COMMITMENT TO  HONORING ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT  PLANS TO THE CITY HAS THE  ABILITY TO DO A TV ARE  TRANSFERRED DEVELOPED RATES  BASED ON UPON THE SENSITIVE  NATURE OF THE LOCATION AND  HABITAT QUALITY, ESPECIALLY  SINCE IT WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE  EFFECT ON THE PROTECTIVE  FLORIDA SCRUB JAY BY  DECREASING THEIR EXISTING  HABITAT. 3 THE LOCATION AND  CONNECTION TO THE LEGACY  TRAIL. A NO PASSING PERKS.  DURING A HEARTS THAT ON THE  SET DISTANCE AS STATED IN  PARKS AND RECS PRESENTATION  BEFORE YOU TODAY. PARKS AND  RECS IMPACT FEES ARE UTILIZED  PURCHASED OR SUPPORT OTHER  PARKS, WHICH IS ANOTHER SOURCE  OF FUNDING IN ADDITION TO  OTHER CITY SOURCES. SUCH AS  THE TREE FOUND THAT HAS ALMOST  5 MILLION DOLLARS JUST SITTING  THERE 6 IN ORDER TO HONOR THE  CITY'S COMMITMENT COMMISSION  AND NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION  TO IDENTIFY SENSITIVE LANDS  AND PURSUE OPTIONS TO PRESERVE  THEM IN PERPETUITY ESPECIALLY  IN THE RECENT STATEMENTS, THIS  PARCEL MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR  THAT THERE ARE MORE AREAS  WITHIN OUR CITY THAT TAKE  PRIORITY FOR FUTURE PARKS.  WELL NOT HAVE THE HABITAT  QUALITY IS THAT THIS PARCEL  HAS WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO KICK  THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THESE  HIGHLY SENSITIVE PARCELS THANK  YOU THAT'S ALL.  >> MOVING ON TO ITEM TO A 24  DASH 0, 8, 9, 0, MANAGER THIS  IS YOUR ITEM.  >> IS VISITATION STATE PARK  SYSTEM SERVICE AREAS IF YOU  TODAY WE HAVE HISTORY, THIS  OUR SYSTEM PARKS AND RECS  RECTOR DO THIS TO THE  >> GOOD MORNING. MISTER HUGHES  SYSTEM FOR MY CHARACTER. THIS  MORNING WE GET PRESENTATION  NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK A  LITTLE BIT ABOUT PARKING  CREATION COMPLAINING AS WE SEE  IT TODAY. START WITH A LITTLE  BIT I WANT TO REALLY TALK  ABOUT SOURCE DOCUMENTS FOR  THIS PRESENTATION. MY. AND THE  SOURCE DOCUMENT IS ADOPTED  MASTER PLAN INITIALLY  ESTABLISHED ESTABLISHING 2016  WITH THE LATEST PROVISION OF  THIS ADOPT A PLAN BEING IN  2019. FROM THIS TIME WE HAVE  TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT  WHAT'S HAPPENING PARKS AND  RECREATION IN PORT IN 2018  PARKS AND RECREATION  DEPARTMENT WAS ESTABLISHED AND  AT THAT TIME WE GAIN THE  PARKS. MAINTENANCE DIVISION  FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS  DEPARTMENT. IN 2019 WE OPENED  THE AQUATIC CENTER  ESTABLISHING AQUATICS DIVISION  IN 2021. ARCHIMEDES SCREW TEAM  AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF LOCAL  AGREEMENT WITH SARASOTA COUNTY  2 OUT FIELD MAINTENANCE WHICH  ALSO REQUIRED OR RECREATION  DIVISION TO GROW A LITTLE BIT  WITH THE RESERVATIONS TEAM TO  HANDLE THOSE FIELDS. IN 2023.  AS OF LAST APRIL AS WE ALL  KNOW. OUR PRODUCTS DIVISION  THEN REOPENED WARM MINERAL  SPRINGS PARK EXPANDING ONCE  AGAIN. SO WITH THE ARRAY OF  DIVERSE BUILDINGS RIGHT OF  WAYS LAWNS PARKS AND  FACILITIES. IT'S IMPORTANT  WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS LIST TO  KIND OF FIRST GO THROUGH IT  AND IDENTIFY WHAT WE CALL A  PARK AND WHAT'S IN THE PARKING  INVENTORY TODAY. IT'S  IMPORTANT POINT ALSO MENTION  THAT DURING THIS TIME OF THIS  MASTER PLAN WE HAVE ALSO  FOCUSED ON IMPROVEMENTS LIKE  THE ADH ACTIVITY IN OUR PARKS  AND THAT TIME YEAR THE END OF  ITS LIFE. PARKS AND RECREATION  HAS REALLY HIT ABOUT 98% OF  ALL OF THE APPROVED COMPONENTS  WITHIN. THAT BEING SAID THE  CITY OF NORTH PORT PARKS AND  RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS ONE  OF ONLY 2%. NATIONALLY  ACCREDITED. IN CHAPTER 2 OF  OUR KIND NATION STANDARDS WE  HAVE 10 FULLY. OUTLYING  STANDARDS WITH 4 OF THEM BEING  FUNDAMENTAL TO RE  ACCREDITATION THAT ARE BASED  ON  >> LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT TYPES  OF PARTS HERE WILL FURTHER  INTO THE SLIDE TO SOME OF YOU  HAVE SEEN TO BE ABLE TO  IDENTIFY WHAT THEY REALLY ARE  AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE TO US.  SO A COMMUNITY PARK ISN'T  STATIC LEE PLEASING SAFE RIDE  TO PARK LOCATED NEAR MAJOR  STREETS. ARTERIALS IT'S  DESIGNED TO SERVE 10 TO 15  NEIGHBORHOODS. AND USUALLY HAS  A RADIUS OF ABOUT 3 THIS WOULD  SERVE A POPULATION 25 TO  35,000 RESIDENTS AND  FACILITIES PROVIDING WOULD BE  CONSISTENT WITH OUR PARK  SYSTEM CRITERIA AS WELL AS THE  COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENTS  THAT WE CONDUCT ANNUALLY. OUR  CURRENT INVENTORY ROSE 3 PARKS  UNDER CITY INVENTORY OUT WATER  COMMUNITY PARK. BUTLER PARK  AND DALLAS WHITE PARK. WE ALSO  HAVE IN THAT INVENTORY. THE  DEVELOPER OPERATED BLUE HERON.  AND GIVES US A TOTAL OF 4  COMMUNITY PARKS AT A 116.20  ACRES. IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW  THAT USUALLY HAVE TO HAVE SOME  DRY WHERE THE AMENITIES WE  NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE  BUTLER PARK A FAMILY CAN GO  FOR THE DAY AND WATCH THE KIDS  PLAY A TOURNAMENT ALL DAY.  THEY CAN SIMPLY GO OUT  DROPPING TO A FITNESS CLASS.  GO FOR A WORKOUT WHERE THEY  CAN MAKE A TRIP TO THE AQUATIC  CENTER OR JUST PLAN TAKE THEIR  FOR A WALK, BUT THERE'S A LOT  OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT  HAPPENED ON ONE CAMPUS.  LOOKING AT THIS NOT THE SHOWS  AND YOU EACH HAVE A PAPER COPY  OF THESE MAPS PROVIDED. THIS  SHOWS THE 3 MILE ACCESS AREA  AND HOW IT OVERLAYS ON TO THE  CITY. YOU REALLY DO BEGIN TO  SEE THAT BIG GAP IN THE SANTA.  AS WELL AS IT IS ALSO A LITTLE  BIT OF OF QUESTION WHETHER OUT  WATER PARK IT IS NAMED A  COMMUNITY PARK HAS THOSE DRIVE  WHERE THE AMENITIES YOU KNOW  IT IS REALLY A BASEBALL PARK  WITH A SPLASH OUT ON THE  PLAYGROUND. WITH LARGE SERVICE  AREA YOU CAN SEE THIS  COVERAGE. START TO KIND  ESTABLISH BUT AS WE GO INTO  NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS WILL SEE IT  A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.  THIS IS AN AREA NEIGHBORHOOD  PARKS IT'S FOR THE SOCIAL  FOCUS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD HALF  MILE RADIUS. IT IS IS WHAT  THEY LOOK AT IT SYSTEMICALLY  PLEASING AS A SAFE SPACE FOR  YOU TO TAKE YOUR FAMILY TO  PLAY OUTSIDE. SO HE'S PROVIDED  WOULD BE CONSISTENT AGAIN WITH  THE SYSTEM PLANNING CRITERIA  AS WELL AS COMMUNITY NEEDS  ASSESSMENT RESULTS AND OUR  CURRENT INVENTORY ON  NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS IS 8 AND WE  HAVE THE BOCA CHICA PARK IN  DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY. LITTLE  LOWER ON THAT TOTAL ACREAGE AT  31.7 8 ACRES AND AGAIN SO I'M  REALLY WHEN WE TALK AREAS ARE  BEING LESS HALF AN ACRE AND IT  IS A PARK IS A NOT A PARK WE  DO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THOSE  ANOMALIES THROUGHOUT. THIS  ISN'T A PART THAT YOU THINK OF  BUT THEN YOU KNOW AFTER DINNER  AND YOU WANT TO GO FOR A WALK.  THIS IS A PLACE THAT SATURDAY  AFTERNOON YOU CAN TAKE THE  GRANDKIDS WITH THE KIDS TO THE  PLAYGROUND AND THROW A BALL.  THIS IS THE TYPE OF NEIGHBOR  PARK  ♪ WHERE. THEY CARRY AMENITIES.  THE TYPE OF PARK IS  TRADITIONALLY A PARK. WHEN YOU  THINK  ♪ OF IT. THEY'RE OFTEN  OVERLOOKED WHY. BECAUSE THEY  DON'T HAVE A VERY BIG VOCAL  USER. IT'S JUST ARI KIDS  PLAYING. SO THEY'RE NOT OUT  HERE TELLING US WHAT WE NEED  TO DO ABOUT IT THEY'RE JUST  THE CUT. ESPECIALLY WHEN  THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE  MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY AND  IT, ESPECIALLY IN A COMMUNITY  THAT IS GETTING SO MUCH GROWTH  SO THEY DO TEND TO GET  OVERLOOKED A LOT. LOOK AT THIS  NEXT MAP. WE BRING DOWN THAT  HALF-MILE ACCESS AREA. THE  REASON WE'RE BRINGING THAT  ACCESS AREA IS THIS HAS BECOME  A NATIONAL STANDARD THEY  REALLY DON'T LOOK AT THE NOT A  MAKERS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE  ANYMORE. IN 2016 THE NATIONAL  PARKS AND RECREATION  ASSOCIATION STARTED A CAMPAIGN  CALLED EQUITABLE PARK ACCESS.  AND THIS CAMPAIGN CENTERS  AROUND A 10 MINUTE WALK TO A  PARK. TENET SAYS ABOUT WHAT  THE AVERAGE ABLE-BODIED PERSON  CAN DO. HALF NOT. THIS IS KIND  OF CHANGE THE WAY WE LOOK TO  ENSURE THAT EVERY CHILD HAS A  COMMUNITY PARK THAT THEY CAN  WALK TO KICK A BALL. THIS IS  WHAT THE ACCESS WITH  TRADITIONALLY LOOK LIKE. THE  TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND'S HAS  ALSO NOT THIS TYPE OF SERVICE  LEVEL AND YOU CAN GO ON TO  THEIR THEIR WEBSITE ALL PARKS  SERVE AND PUNCH IN THE NAME  YOUR CITY AND IT WILL TELL YOU  THE PERCENTAGE OF ACCESS TO  PARKS THAT WE IF WE DO THAT  RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY PORT IS  THAT 17% OF OUR POPULATION  BEING ABLE TO WALK TO A PARK.  IN 2024. OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS  ASSESSMENT THAT WE PUT OUT  ALSO INDICATED THAT 71% OF THE  PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED GO TO OUR  PARKS BECAUSE THEY'RE CLOSE TO  HOME. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID  WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT  DISTANCE AS WE LOOK AT THE  OVERALL PICTURE AND MAKE SURE  THAT WE'RE PLANNING  APPROPRIATELY. THE NEXT TYPE  OF PARK WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT  A SPECIAL USE FACILITIES IN  THESE OFTENTIMES GET THROWN  INTO OUR OUR GROUP OF OF ALL  THESE THINGS WE HAVE IT'S VERY  IT DIVERSE IT'S DIVERSE AS WE  ARE AS A DEPARTMENT. THESE ARE  DESIGNED FOR SPECIAL PURPOSE  OR SPECIAL CONTINGENCY.  CONSTITUENTS SERVE THOSE  INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED  TO SOFTBALL FIELDS, BASEBALL  PARKS. ANY SINGLE USE PURPOSE  A LOT OF TIMES USE FOR  COMPETITION. SO YOU SEE WE DO  HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THESE THAT  WE'VE EITHER. INVESTED IN OR  INHERITED OVER THE YEARS. WE  SEE A COMBINATION. EVERYTHING  FROM SPORTS FIELDS. 2 MEMORIAL  SITE. THESE VERY SPECIFIC AND  VERY SPECIFIC FOR USER GROUPS.  I MAY GO TO THE CANINE CLUB  EVERY WEEKEND WITH MY DOT, I  NEVER EVER GO TO FOOTBALL  FIELD. I'M I PUT MY VOTING  PARK BUT NEVER EVER ONCE GOING  AND WORSE OFF FIELD. YOU KNOW,  SO THESE ARE VERY VERY  SPECIFIC GROUPS VERY SPECIFIC  THINGS. NEXT WE LOOK AT THE  CLASSIFICATIONS OF GREENWAYS  AND OPEN SPACE REMAINS SPACES  ESTABLISHED ALONG NATURAL  CORRIDORS SEE THAT DEFINITION  A PRESENTATION WIND TO OF WHAT  WE HAVE IN THE CITY MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK GREENWAY, WHICH  BEAUTIFUL TRAIL WE JUST  COMPLETED THIS YEAR AND HAS  BEEN GOOD ASSET. THE SUMTER  BOULEVARD WHEN YOU'RE PARK  COUNCIL THAT AS WELL AND WHEN  YOU LOOK AT OUR INVENTORY.  OPEN SPACE REALLY WE ONLY HAVE  ONE AND AS IT'S RELATED TO  RECREATION IN OUR MASTER PLAN,  IT'S UNDEVELOPED PUBLIC LAND  SUITABLE FOR PASSIVE  RECREATION ARE PRIMARILY FOR  PARKS AND RECREATION  CONSERVATION PRESERVATION  WATER RESOURCES STRUCK  PURPOSES. THE CITY CENTER  GREEN WOULD BE ONE OF THE  THINGS THAT WOULD FALL INTO  THAT FOR US. IT'S IMPORTANT TO  NOTE THOUGH, BUT 2 OF THOSE  ITEMS ARE ACTUALLY RAN LATE  CONSIDERED OF RIGHT AWAY OR A  LAWN AND PUBLIC WORKS ACTUALLY  MAINTAINS. CONSERVATION THIS  IS A BIG ONE FOR US WE HEAR,  YOU KNOW SO MANY TALKS ABOUT  CONSERVATION AND WE'RE REALLY  LUCKY TO HAVE THE ATTRIBUTES  THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY.  AMAZING THINGS THAT MANY  CITIES CAN'T STATE FOR  THEMSELVES THAT THEY HAVE AN  ENTIRE STATE FOREST WITHIN  THERE. THEIR PROPERTIES THAT  THEY HAVE AREA AND ACCESS TO A  PRESERVE. AND THEN ORANGE  PANIC. THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER  HUGE NATURAL AREA. BESIDES  THOSE AREAS IN THE PARKS.  INVENTORY WE LOOK AT THE  MYAKKA HACHI CREEK  ENVIRONMENTAL PARK AS  SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE  SURE WE END. AND MAINTAIN AS  WELL AS OAKS PARK. ANOTHER  AREA CONNECTED THERE. SO THESE  LANDS ARE. 18. FOR CONTINUED  SUSTAINABILITY TEAL NATURAL  RESOURCES WITH THAT SPECIFIC  PURPOSE IN MIND. SO WE NEED TO  REMEMBER THAT AS MUCH AS THEIR  CONSERVATION. THEY DON'T  REPLACE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PARK  BUT THEY DO ACTUALLY SPEAK TO  OUR IDENTITY AS A CITY. MEAN  WHEN WE LOOK AT CONCENTRATION  THIS SHOWS US THAT YOU KNOW WE  REALLY DID DO A GOOD JOB ARE  FOR US PEOPLE CAME AND THEY  REALLY DIDN'T FOCUS ON WHERE  THE MOST WELL WINGS WERE ON  WHERE THE CONSERVATION AREA  ALONG I HAD CREEK WAS AND THEY  AND THEY BUILT THOSE PARKS IN  THAT AREA AND SO THEY DID LOOK  AT DENSITY THEY DID LOOK AT  WHERE THE SCHOOLS WERE  CONCENTRATED WHEN THESE PARKS  WERE ESTABLISHED. THEY DIDN'T  AT WHAT WAS HAPPENING JUST NOW  AT THE POINT WHERE THAT'S NOW  MOVING EAST. AND SO WE'RE  COMING AWAY FROM NOT WE NEED  TO LOOK AT THAT OTHER PARK. SO  THIS DENSITY THAT SEE ALONG  THERE. THE BLUE DOTS ON THE  SCREEN ACTUALLY SHOW OUR  FUTURE PARKLAND AS WE'LL SEE  IN THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES.  COUPLE OF THINGS WE CURRENTLY  HAVE FOLKS RIGHT NOW ARE THE  CIRCLE OF HONOR. THAT IS  WORKING WELL WITH A NEW ARMS  AREA LOCATED AT CITY HALL  CAMPUS. AS WELL AS THE BOCA  CHICA. AS WE MOVE EAST THROUGH  THE CITY, YOU CURRENTLY SEE  BUT SHE DOES THAT DOT IN THE  CENTER OF THAT LAST ONE WE  SAW. A NATIVE TREE FOR THE  NATIVE SPECIES INCUR AGING  PLANTS THROUGHOUT. THIS IS THE  FIRST PART IN THIS MID SECTION  OF TOWN THAT WE WILL SEE.  FUTURE PARK WHEN I'VE SEEN  HERE THESE ARE 2 PARCELS WE  SAW FEW MONTHS BACK COME TO  LIGHT AND THESE ARE PART OF  OUR FUTURE PARKLAND INVENTORY.  THE PARCEL ON LANGUAGE DRIVE  YORKSHIRE AND RAIN TREE AND A  PARCEL ON ITALY AVENUE WHICH  IS NEAR WATER PARK LOCATION.  IT IS A LONG NARROW STRETCH ON  ITALY AVENUE WITH 40 ACRES AND  IF 5 ACRE PARCEL THAT IS THERE  THAT WAS JUST ACQUIRED BY THE  COUNTY. HAS IS INCONVENIENCE  TO US AT THIS POINT WHICH  WOULD PROVIDE AND ADDITIONAL  ACCESS POINT INTO THIS AREA  WILL LOOK AT THAT IN A MINUTE.  SO RECENTLY. BUT THIS EDITION  WE DO FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT  OF POTENTIAL ON THIS PROPERTY.  THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR  MULTI-USE FIELDS, OUR YOUTH  SOCCER PROGRAM GREW TO OVER  1900 PARTICIPANTS THIS SUMMER.  BALL COURTS. SMALL COMMUNITY  CENTER WITH NEW HIGH SCHOOLS  GOING OUT THERE AND MIDDLE  SCHOOLS, ADDITIONAL DOG PARKS  MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL TRAILS  THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT  COULD POTENTIALLY SERVICE THE  WHOLE OTHER SIDE OF THE CITY  AT THIS POINT ON THIS PROPERTY  AND START OUR GROWTH ON THAT  EAST OF BLADE SIDE. WE WOULD  PREFER THAT THIS BE MASTER  PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE HIT  EVERYTHING THAT IS NEEDED OVER  THERE IN THIS SPACE.  ADDITIONALLY ON THE IS  PROPERTY. THERE'S WAYS TO  MAXIMIZE LAND LIKE PROVIDING  MULTI USE. SITE THIS TYPE OF A  PROPERTY CAN BE PROVEN. TO BE  A GREAT REHOMING SIGHT FOR  SOME OF THE GROWTH AROUND THAT  AREA IT CAN BE. MICRO FORESTS.  HE COULD HAVE LITTLE DENSE  AREAS OF THAT THAT FRESH WATER  USAGE BY UTILITIES, THERE'S A  LOT OF PARTNERING THAT COULD  HAPPEN WITH PARKS TO MAKE SURE  THAT WE CAN DO IT RIGHT  TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER  DEPARTMENTS. THE COUNTY LAND  ACQUISITION PROGRAM YOU HEARD  ME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.  I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE  THAT WE KIND REVISIT IT AND  TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE  GET IN THERE. SO THERE'S 2  PROGRAMS THAT WE TAKE PART IN  ONE IS ENVIRONMENTALLY  SENSITIVE LANDS PROTECTION  PROGRAM AND THE OTHER ONE IS  THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKLAND  PROGRAM. EACH OF THOSE HAD A  PELLET ABILITY IN CRITERIA HAS  ALIGNED IN FOR SOME WHICH IS  THAT THAT PROPERTY MUST BE.  HAVE A WILLING SELLER. MUST BE  SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CREATE A  WORK PLAN FOR THAT GETS  APPROVED TO GO ON TO THAT LIST  AND THOSE WIND. AREN'T  AVAILABLE. THE CURRENT YES OPP  NOMINATED PARCELS ON THIS PAGE  ONE. YOU'LL NOTE THAT MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK TIER, ONE AND TIER  2 ARE ON THIS PAGE AS WELL AS  ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS  NOMINATED PARCELS A LITTLE BIT  OF AN UPDATE ON THESE ONES IS  THE SAN MATEO PROPERTY IS THE  ONE THAT WAS JUST ACQUIRED AND  WAITING CONVEYANCE AND THE  CANCER AVENUE PARCEL IS NO  LONGER AVAILABLE. IT HAS BEEN  SOLD SO THE NEXT PROPERTY ON  THIS ONE WOULD BE THE NORTH  CHAMBERLAIN PEACE. MATEO DRY.  AS WE LOOK AT THAT THAT LITTLE  PARCEL TO THE SIDE OF ITALY  AVENUE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP  THAT'S PROVIDED FOR YOU CAN  SEE THE LONG BEEN PARTIAL  PARCEL OF ITALY AVENUE TO ITS  RIGHT. THIS WORK PLAN THAT WAS  APPROVED IS THAT IT WAS TO  SERVE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK  PROVIDING ACTIVE RECREATION  ALL FUNCTIONS AND SERVICES AND  ACCESS TO OVERALL AT WATER  PARK COMPLEX POTENTIAL  AMENITIES FOR THE SITE ITSELF  INCLUDE A SMALL PLAYGROUND  OPEN FIELD PLAY IT TAKES  SHELTERS. AND POTENTIAL FOR A  KAYAK OR CANOE LAUNCH. SO YOU  CAN SEE WE'RE ON THAT NOT  PROVIDE ON THIS THIS SCREEN. I  WANT TO PARK IS UP IN THAT TOP  CORNER IT REALLY RUNS ALL THE  WAY DOWN AND THEN YOU HAVE  THAT OTHER ADDITIONAL ACCESS  POINT WITH THE SAN MATEO  PROPERTY. NO FOR SO IT'S A  LITTLE BIT OF A LARGER PARCEL  AT 11 ACRES AND IT IS  ENVISIONED TO SERVE AS A  NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN THAT GAP  SECTION AS WELL. ALTHOUGH NOT  OBTAINED AS OF THIS POINT IT  IS THE LAST ONE ON THAT LIST.  BESIDES TEACHER WANTED TO.  LOOKING AT OVERALL THINGS ARE  IN THE PARK SYSTEM. I WAS ABLE  TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH JOHN  HELD BACK AND HE WAS A HUGE  SUPPORT OF THESE MAPS AND  GETTING ALL THIS AND THE GIS  FOR US SO THAT WE CAN SEE AND  APPLY THESE BUT FIRST TO THE  ENTIRE SYSTEM SO THIS MAP NOW  SHOWS THAT HALF MILE RADIUS.  FOR EVERY PERSON THAT WE  IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT THE  PROGRAM TODAY. THE FUTURE  PARKLANDS. INCLUDED THE YOU'LL  SEE IN BLUE THOSE ARE THE ONES  THAT WE FOCUSED ON THE END  WHICH KIND OF BRING THAT  ACROSS THE CITY A LITTLE BIT  MORE. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS.  >> I WAS EXPECTING A GRANDSON  THAT IT'S  >> RIGHT SO OTHER QUESTIONS.  >> THAT WAS THAT WAS PRETTY  PRETTY GOOD THAT WAS THAT WAS  THAT WAS REALLY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> YES, THANK YOU GREAT  PRESENTATION ONE I SAW ALL OF  THAT DATA OF COURSE MY HEART I  HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I  HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS AND  SUGGESTIONS, BUT LET ME START  BY SAYING. THAT WHAT'S  MOTIVATING MY CONVERSATION  TODAY IS SAVING OUR PARKS.  >> I FIRST CAME ON BOARD AS A  COMMISSIONER WHEN IT CAN PARKS  MY CONCERN WAS. MAKING SURE  THAT FUTURE COMMISSIONS AND 10  15 YEARS WERE NEVER IN A  POSITION OF HAVING TO SELL  PARKLAND TO BALANCE BUDGET.  AND WHAT I'VE COME TO REALIZE  AND THAT'S 3 AND A HALF YEARS  THAT I'VE SERVED THE CITY IN  THIS CAPACITY IS THAT WE ARE  IN THE POSITION OF MAKING  THOSE DECISIONS. TODAY. SO MY  ENTIRE THAT I'M GOING TO BE  VERY CAN WE AFFORD IT, I'M  GOING TO BE VERY ANNOYING IN  TERMS OF ALL HOW DO WE MAKE  THINGS MORE AFFORDABLE HOW DO  THEY ARE LEVERAGING OTHER  PEOPLE'S INVESTMENTS OTHER  ASSETS. MY MOTIVATION IS  SAVING OUR PARKS BECAUSE I DO  BELIEVE THEY ARE AT RISK. AS  WE MOVE FORWARD, SO JUST START  WITH QUESTIONS. HAVE WE BEEN  THINKING AT ALL AS TO HOW WE  MIGHT LEVERAGE OUR HAMMOCK. TO  BE ECO TOURISM.  >> NO WHAT WE HAVE AND WE HAVE  NOT WE DO NOT OWN THE LAND TO  BE ABLE TO DO THAT. OUT THAT  AT THIS I KNOW WE DON'T OWN A.  >> BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF  CONSERVATION AREAS THAT HAVE  BECOME STATE LOCAL PARKS. IT'S  A NEGOTIATION AND THAT'S  INTERESTED SO. I WON'T BELABOR  ORANGE HAMMOCK BUT THERE ARE  LITERALLY. HUNDREDS OF ACRES  OF WHAT I WOULD PRAIRIE KIND  OF LAND. THAT PRE SEEN THE  WATER CLEARLY WE WOULDN'T WANT  TO MESS WITH THAT. I FROM SOME  PUBLIC COMMENTERS AND MEETINGS  TIME AGO THAT SOME FOLKS ARE  USING THAT PROPERTY FOR  HUNTING. SO I JUST WONDER I  JUST WANT TO PUT OUT THERE IS  THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO  WORK WITH THAT CONSERVATION  GROUP A NATION STATE OR A  STAR. ARE ANY OTHER GROUPS TO  MORE OP SOME OF THAT LAND TO  PROVIDE RECREATIONAL  OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR  RESIDENTS. CANDY FUNHOUSE  PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.  ORANGE HAMMOCK IS SOMETHING  THAT I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO  LOOK AT WITH NATURAL HOW WE  APPROACH THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE  IT IS YET, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY  SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT AS  A FUTURE GOAL.  >> RIGHT RIGHT.  >> THE PLAN BUT NO WAS THE  SECOND THING ON MY BEST WHEN I  WAS WORKING ON OVER THE  WEEKEND AND I WAS SO HAPPY TO  SEE IT REFERENCED IN THE  DOCUMENTATION. WE JUST HAVE  SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IN  THIS CITY TO CREATE SOME TYPE  SPRINGS ECO TOURISM EXPERIENCE  WITH ONE MINERAL UNSOLVED AND  NO MY AND OF STATE HAVE NEVER  BEEN ABLE TO FIND THE KNOWN  THE SPRINGS, AND I DIDN'T GO  OUT A COUPLE TIMES LOOKING  FOR. OTHER HOUSES AROUND LIKE.  >> WHAT WHAT WOULD BE BAR  HURDLE TO DO SOMETHING MORE  ENVIRONMENTAL WITH THAT  SPRING. SO I THINK I'M IN A  LOT.  >> ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER  SPEAK TO KNOW SPRINGS. THAT  WAS ON IN THE NOMINATIONS, BUT  IT'S NOT IN PARK'S FUTURE  PLANNING ON WE DID THOUGH WE  DID THE MASTER PLAN. ONE OF  THE THINGS THAT TEAM TO TALK  ABOUT WAS HOW DO YOU LEVERAGE.  THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 3  SPRINGS IN PORT. AND SO THAT  DEFINITELY WAS TALKED BUT  BECAUSE WE DON'T ON IT WASN'T  SOMETHING THAT WAS PURSUED. IN  WARDAK THE FACT THAT WE DON'T  OWN 2 OF THEM. I DON'T SEE  THAT LIKE FIGURE IT OUT. YOU  KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT  TO DO AND IF IT'S A VALUE TO  THE COMMUNITY LET'S TRY TO  FIGURE IT OUT.  >> FOR THE RECORD JULIANA  BILLY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER  SEVERAL YEARS OUR STAFF AT  PUBLIC WORKS AT THE TIME I WAS  PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. WE WERE  MAINTAINING THERE'S 2 VERY  LARGE DRAINAGE FOR ALL RIGHT  TO WAIT THAT RUN THROUGH THAT  PROPERTY. ALONGSIDE OF IT. SO  THE CREWS WOULD BE VERY  CAREFUL THOSE AREAS  UNFORTUNATELY WE KILL PART OF  A MAINTAIN PART OF THEM.  BECAUSE THEY DO BASICALLY  THROUGH THE CENTER KIND OF  ALONG BOTH THE STAFF THEY  MAYBE A LITTLE TOO CLOSE. THE  STATE CAME OUT KNOW THAT AND  THERE WAS SOME REMAINS FOUND.  SO WE HAD TO STOP COMPLETELY  MAINTAINING A STRAINED RIGHT  OF WAYS.  ♪ SO WHAT ARE THINGS WE NEED TO  DO IF WERE TO PERHAPS PURSUE  IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED DIRECTOR  FROM HILLARY'S CORRECT. I USED  TO BE OWNED BY PARTNERS, I'M  NOT SURE IF THEY STILL OWNER  THAT THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY  WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD  CONNECT THOSE GOOGLE TO  MAINTAIN A STRANGER. I WAS IN  SOME FASHION YOU KNOW  RELOCATING BE VERY EXPENSIVE  BUT AND SITE IS A LITTLE BIT  PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT'S GOT  THE DRAINS GOING THROUGH  THERE. AND THERE ARE THERE ARE  SOME REMAINS THERE TOO. SO WE  HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL SO FOR  ME IT'S MORE IMPORTANT HEARING  THAT I WASN'T AWARE REMAINS  HAD BEEN FOUND WE NEED TO  INTEREST IN ENVIRONMENTAL AND  BRIGHT ACTING THAT AREA.  >> I I DON'T SEE IT  NECESSARILY AS. PERCENT RIGHT  RIGHT.  >> AND AND I WANT TO THAT NOW  THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES  DEPARTMENT HAS A NATURAL  RESOURCES DIVISION. THEY HAVE  BEEN STARTING TO DEVELOP A  VERY BIG RELATIONSHIP WITH A  PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT.  THEY'RE ENCOURAGING THE  PLANTING OF TREES AT THEIR  PARKS WHICH THEY'VE BEEN DOING  IT THE LAST ONE I WENT TO THEY  ACTUALLY HAD IN THE MAYOR WAS  THERE HAVE BOTH BY THE MORGAN  CENTER PLANTING TREES. AND  ALSO THESE ENVIRONMENTAL TYPE  ISSUES AND I KNOW LAST  COMMISSION MEETING MENTIONED  SOME OF THE PROGRAM SHE'S  DOING AND THAT'S ALL IN  COLLABORATION WITH THE PARKS  DEPARTMENT OKAY, THANK YOU FOR  >> ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I  HAD PUT ON  >> THINKING THAT TO ALL OF THE  PUBLIC COMMENT WITH HAD OF  >> PARTICULARLY THE PAST YEAR  AROUND ONE MINERAL SPRINGS,  AND PARKS AND CONSERVATION  WHAT HAS REALLY TAKEN AWAY  FROM A LOT  >> COMMENTS.  >> PEOPLE ARE REALLY LOOKING  FOR TREES AND TREE CANOPY AND  QUIET. AREAS AND I THINK WE  MIGHT TALKED ABOUT THIS A  LITTLE BIT AT A PREVIOUS  MEETING.  >> LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE  EMPHASIS ON JUST CREATING  NATURAL.  >> SPACES, LITTLE PATHWAYS  MAYBE A COUPLE BENCHES JUST  YOU KNOW THAT. HALF A MILE  KIND OF THING JUST SORT OF  MAKE IT A VERY WHY NATURAL  HABITAT, YOU KNOW TALKING  ABOUT MAYBE RELOCATION THAT  TIME BANG. THE BEAUTY OF THAT  IS IT GIVES US THAT NATURAL.  SPACE WITH MINIMAL  MAINTENANCE. I JUST WANT  >> AND THAT WHEN WE WHEN WE  LOOK AT A NEW PARK LOCATIONS,  ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT  WE DO IS DO A SURVEY TO THE  NEIGHBORHOOD THE SURROUNDING  NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN WE  EXTEND THAT BROADER COMMUNITY.  BUT WE REALLY WHEN WE'RE GOING  TO DEVELOP A PARK WE WANT TO  MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS NEEDS  ARE IN THAT AREA. SO I  APPRECIATE THAT SUGGESTION.  BUT A LOT  OF TIMES WITH THE RESIDENTS  AROUND THE PARK ARE LOOKING  FOR A LITTLE MORE ACTIVE THAN  JUST TRAILS YEAH. I THINK IT'S  A BALANCE WE NEED  >> YOU WILL SEE IN BOCA CHICA  WE HAVE WE HAVE REQUESTED A  MUCH MORE NATURAL AREA NOT. WE  TOOK PART WITH THE NATURAL  RESOURCES. AS WELL AS OUR  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD  AND THE PARK AND REC ADVISORY  BOARD IN SOME NATURAL  PLANTINGS AT HO PARK IT UP  THEY DID A PILOT PROJECT TO  YOU KNOW PUT AN AREA  DESIGNATED FOR THAT IT WAS A  GREAT THING WE DID IT AGAIN  WITH MAYOR BUTLER WE WE  CREATED THAT AREA. SO IT IS A  FOCUS FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT  WE ARE. PLANTING YOU KNOW  PLANTS THAT ARE ENCOURAGING  NATIVE SPECIES TO MOVE INTO  OUR PARKS THAT WE ARE  RETAINING THE TREES AND  KEEPING THE SHADE NATURALLY  RESIDENTS BUT YES, IT IS VERY  IMPORTANT ALSO SUIT THE NEEDS  OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE IT'S A  VERY YOUNG COMMUNITY THERE MAY  A PLAYGROUND THAT IS WHAT THEY  WANT TO BE LOCKED BUT I  TOTALLY GET THAT BUT.  >> 2 TO HAVE AN EXPECTATION  THAT PEOPLE CAN SO THAT KIND  OUR I MEAN PEOPLE WILL DRIVE  TO KIND PARK.  >> I SOMETIMES GET CONCERNED  THAT ARE. AND WANT TO BE  EDUCATED ON THIS I GET  CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE IT'S NOT  SUSTAINABLE. AND AGAIN I HARP  ON THIS ALL THE TIME I  APOLOGIZE FOR BEING SO BUT WE  HAVE 8% COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN  THE CITY.  >> YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY COMING  AND I'M VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE  WRIST.  >> AND IN THIS SPACE. BUT  ANYWAY. LANG LLOYDS BANK LANG  >> THERE'S A LARGE WATER BODY  ON THAT PROPERTY, WHAT ARE YOU  THINKING JUST SORT OF  BRAINSTORMING WHAT ARE YOU  THINKING FOR THAT PROPERTY  WHAT IS. THAT PROPERTY ALWAYS  TALKED ABOUT BEING A OUTDOOR  EDUCATIONAL RECREATIONAL. TIME  PARK.  >> USING WATER BODY IN SOME  WAY WHETHER IT'S KAYAK OR SOME  TYPE OF. BOATS OUT THERE.  TRAILS PRIMITIVE CAMPING  AROUND THAT AREA.  >> YEAH, I'M SO NOTHING NOT  LIKE YOUR TYPICAL PLAYGROUND  AND PAVILION PARK RIGHT.  AWESOME I I LIKE THAT THINKING  WITH THE FRESH  >> THERE AS WELL THERE IS  OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH  UTILITIES ON SOME TYPE OF  FRESH WATER RETENTION AS WELL  OK.  >> GOOD GOOD GOOD.  >> I IT WHILE YOU'RE ON GREAT  NEXT OK, THANK YOU.  >> COMMISSIONER NOW.  >> KIND OF DO THINGS A LITTLE  BIT BACKWARDS YOU SAID USING  LANGUAGE PART AS A FRESH WATER  RETENTION YEAH, WHAT DOES THAT  MEAN ENGLISH AND IN WHAT DOES  THAT LOOK LIKE I'M IN  ADDITION, YOU KNOW WATER PLANT  NO NO SO IT'S NOT THERE ARE  AREAS WITHIN THE CITY AT  KEEPING FRESH WATER AS AS A  ARE IMPORTANT AND THAT WOULD  BE ONE THAT WE COULD KEEP AS A  FRESH WATER RESERVOIR  PROTECTING IT FROM MOTORBOATS  DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT  WOULD BE IT WOULD BE HOW IT  WOULD STILL BE A PARK. BUT IT  WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY  COULD SOURCE WATERFRONT JUST I  WOULD I DON'T KNOW THE  LOGISTICS OF IT AND I WOULD  HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT IT  BUT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT.  IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE  SOMETHING THAT THEY MIGHT BE  INTERESTED IN OUR INVENTORY  THE REASON WHY I WENT PLANT IS  BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING  PREVIOUSLY OF HOW WE'RE GOING  TO MAXIMIZE WATER COMING  THROUGH THE CITY TO BE ABLE  USE THAT RIGHT SO WHEN I HEARD  WE TEND TO WELL SO THANK YOU  THAT ANSWER FACTIONS BACK TO  MY INITIAL TRAIN OF THOUGHT.  >> GREAT PRESENTATION MY  GOODNESS IT IT CONTAINED A LOT  OF REALLY USEFUL INFORMATION  AND I LOVE THE LARGER MATT,  THANK YOU VERY MUCH SO THAT WE  COULD REALLY SAYING WHAT IS  AROUND AND WHERE WE ARE  LACKING. PAR FOR THE COURSE.  >> I WAS LOOKING FOR A LITTLE  BIT MORE.  >> I OPERATION THAT I'M  HEARING WITH NATURAL RESOURCES  PARKS POTENTIALLY ROAD AND  DRAINAGE AND WATER LOVE THAT  PART. I WAS LOOKING FOR MORE  ON THE SUBJECT OF HOW.  >> ARE WE GOING TO FILL THESE  GAPS COULD WE FILL THESE GAPS.  WHAT ARE SOME OF THE LOCATIONS  I MEAN NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS OR  NONEXISTENT. EAST OF SOME ALL  INTENTS AND PURPOSES A YEAH, I  MEAN THERE MIGHT BE ONE OR 2.  >> BUT THAT'S REALLY CLOSE TO  SUMTER SO TABLE BECAUSE A  BOUTIQUE THERE ARE NO PARKS.  AND. SPEAKING FOR MYSELF THAT  WAS A HUGE SELLING FACTOR OF  WHERE I WOULD PURCHASE A HOUSE  I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT  KIDS HAD SOME PLACE TO GO.  THAT WAS CLOSE BY THEY CAN  WALK THERE. ON THEIR OWN AS  THEY GOT OLDER SOME PLACED US  SPEND TIME WHEN THEY WERE  THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD HAS  GREAT AMENITIES. IT'S NOT LIKE  MORGAN CENTER. IT'S GOT A  DIFFERENT VIBE TO HIM THAT OK  EACH PARK IS SUPPOSED TO BE  UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT. BUT I  WAS REALLY LOOKING FOR MORE OF  A CONVERSATION HOW TO FILL  THOSE GAPS.  >> AND I I KNOW THAT WE GAVE  DIRECTION THAT STAFF WAS TO  COME BACK WITH.  >> FUTURE POSSIBLE PARK  LOCATIONS EAST OF TWEET ABOUT  TIME. AND WHAT KIND OF PARKS.  YOU KNOW WITH VARIOUS  DIFFERENT PARK HEART. I KNOW  THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE  HAVING A CONVERSATION TO ON  ALL CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES. WE  WE NEED THAT CONVERSATION  SOONER RATHER THAN IT'S BEEN A  VERY LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD  THE CONGRESS I THINK IT'S  GOING ON. 3 TO 5 YEARS SINCE  WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION ON  CITY OWNED PROPERTY. WHAT YOU  SEE IS WHAT ITS INTENDED USE  IS HOW WE CAN COLLABORATE.  WITHOUT HAVING FUTURE  CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT WE HAVE  TODAY. IT'S REALLY HARD TO  HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ON WHAT  WE CAN DO WITH PROPERTIES.  REGARDLESS IF IT'S FOR PARKER  PORTABLE HOUSING OR ROAD AND  DRAINAGE FOR ACCESS OR OR I  WAS LOOKING FOR MORE AND AND  WHY THEY'RE GRATEFUL FOR THIS  PRESENTATION BECAUSE IT SETS  THE FOUNDATION. ONE EVEN I  THINK WE FOCUS ON THE  PROPERTIES THAT WERE ALREADY  IN THE PARK'S INVENTORY.  >> AS OPPOSED TO BE ON PARKS  INVENTORY. I THINK WE DO HAVE  SOME ROOM, ESPECIALLY IN THE  OF THE OF ITALY AVENUE TO  BRING SOME MUCH NEEDED. HE  SAYS TO THAT SIDE OF THE CITY.  WE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WITH  THE BOCA CHICA BRINGING SO  WE'VE WE STARTED THE  CONVERSATION AT THIS. SO HOW  HOW DO WE. HOW DO WE BUILD AND  THIS INFORMATION TO THOSE  GAPS.  >> WHEN WE HAVE THOSE  CONVERSATIONS US IT IS A HUGE  HUGE DISCUSSION AND I AM VERY  GRATEFUL. ITALY ADULT AVENUE  SEEMS TO BE OFF THE TABLE TO  SOUTH.  >> EVEN TO HAVE FOR AFFORDABLE  HOUSING, I REMEMBER THAT  CONVERSATION GAVE ME HER  BIRTH.  >> YOU LIKE WITH THE STATE OF  OUR MASTER PLAN BEING AT  LITERALLY ALMOST 98%  COMPLETION IF THEY PULL OUT  THE CANALS AND CREEKS MASTER  PLAN OUT OF THAT WE HAVE  ACCOMPLISHED 90% OF WHAT IS IN  THERE. I THINK REALLY THAT  MIGHT BE OUR NEXT CONVERSATION  IS STARTING WITH A MASTER  PLAN. REVISIT NEW MASTER PLAN  SO THAT ALLOW US TO. TO PUT  THAT INVESTMENT INTO THAT AND  WE COULD DO THAT WITH PARK  IMPACT WHICH ARE REALLY KNOW  AND OF MAIN FUNDING SOURCE.  >> WHEN YOU SAY MASTERPLAN ARE  YOU TALKING ABOUT WILL YOU  HAVE A NEW MASTER PLAN ARE  TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE  MASTER PLANNING OF THE CITY  AGAIN THAT'S ONLY 5 YEARS OLD.  >> BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM  2006 IT WAS UPDATED IN 2018.  YEAH 16 AND THAT WAS UPDATES  IN 2019 BUT THE ACTUAL PLAN  FINAL REPORT WAS COMPLETED IN  2016. SO IT IT IS WE'RE WE'RE  KIND OF AT THAT 98% COMPLETION  ON EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE.  SO. IT WILL BE AVENUE WOULD  REQUIRE A MASTER PLAN IT WOULD  BE COST. AND OFFICIAL TO DO  THOUGH IT WOULD COST US MORE  TO DO THEM SEPARATELY.  >> I WOULD SAY ALSO YOU NEED  TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW MUCH  GROWTH THE CITY HAS HAD THAT  WHEN THAT MASTERPLAN WAS DONE.  WE'VE WE'VE OUTGROWN THAT  MASTERPLAN QUICKLY. SO IT IS  TIME TO DO INDUSTRY STANDARD  USED TO BE A A 10 YEAR MASTER  PLAN NOW IT'S NOT THAT  ANYMORE. IT'S MORE OF A 5 YEAR  PLAN  >> THANK YOU LEE AND THIS  THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING. BECAUSE  I PART OF THE COMMISSION  REVISE 2019 AND WE TOLD THAT  THESE DO LAST SHORT-TERM AND  TIMES ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE  UP TO. SO THE UPDATE IS ONLY  NOW FOR YOUR SOUL. I TO DO  HARD TO MASTER PLAN. LET'S  TALK ABOUT THAT.  >> WHAT WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK  LIKE WHAT WOULD THAT INCLUDE  OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO OUT TO  SCOPE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT  IF WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A  CONVERSATION AS TO WHAT WE ARE  LOOKING FOR IN THAT PARKS  MASTER PLAN. SO HELP WITH.  WHAT WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT  PRETTY MUCH UPDATING WHAT WE  HAVE STARTING OVER ALL THESE  CERTAINLY ARE GOING TO TAKE  INTO ACCOUNT WHAT WE ALREADY  HAVE THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT  THE CURRENT INVENTORY.  >> THERE THEY LOOK AT ALL THE  INFORMATION THAT WE CURRENTLY  HAVE TO START THE MASTER AND  THAT IT WOULD BE STARTING  OVER. DO MANY THINGS HAVE  CHANGED THE CITY HAS GROWN TOO  LARGE TO JUST.  >> BUILD OFF OF.  >> TO UPDATE WOULD IN ANY THAT  YOU WOULD INCLUDE LANGUAGE  THAT INCLUDE WHATEVER WE WE  WHEN WE DID THIS WANTED  INCLUDING ITALY THEY DIDN'T  LOOK AT THOSE FUTURE  PROPERTIES ON THAT WE KNEW  ABOUT AT THE TIME, A LOOK AT  THE MASTER PLANS THAT WE HAD  DONE. PREVIOUSLY BEFORE ANY OF  US WERE HERE TO SEE IF THEY  WERE STILL RELEVANT. AND  SHOULD BE INCLUDED SO SPOKEN  BE WHATEVER YOU WANT.  >> LONG WILL THAT TAKE.  >> TO PUT OUT A SCHOOL OVER TO  DETERMINE FROM FROM TODAY  COMPLETION WHEN COMMISSION  ADOPTS HOW WELL HOW LONG ARE  WE LOOK AT IT CAN TAKE AT  LEAST A YEAR.  >> AT LEAST A WE HAVE FUNDING  IF WE HAVE FUNDING CAN WE USE  PARK IMPACT FEES FOR FUNDING  OF MASTER PLAN AND THAT'S  THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I  WOULD CONFIRM THAT.  >> BECAUSE I WAS THAT THAT  PARKS IMPACT FEES COULD ONLY  BE USED FOR EXPANSION OF  PRODUCTS.  >> SO THIS WOULD BE TO THE  EXPANSION OF BECAUSE WE WOULD  BE MASTER PLANNING EXPANSION  OF THE CITY. WE  >> MUCH WHAT BALLPARK.  >> I KNOW YOU HAVE NO IDEA  JUST GIVE ME ABOUT OUR I WOULD  NOT I WOULD YOU HAVE TO KNOW I  HIM BE ONE OF THE BUDGET  COMMISSION IS INTERESTING WE  ABSOLUTELY ARE WE WOULD BRING  BACK THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU  TO GIVE YOU A BALLPARK. IF YOU  GET A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THE  SCHOOL COULD WE CAN BRING THAT  BACK AS A DISCUSSION. YEAH, I  A. I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE  CONVERSATION. I JUST. WHICH WE  HAVE DONE MORE FOR OUT EAST.  >> PARKS NEIGHBORHOODS  COMMUNITY CENTER AND WHAT WE  HAVE IN THE PAST 8 YEARS THAT  HAVE BEEN HERE.  >> I TRULY DO THAT'S THAT'S MY  BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT AND I  REALLY HOPE THAT ONCE IF THE  COMMISSION GIVES DIRECTION TO  PROCEED WITH SOME KIND OF THE  MASTER PLANNER START THAT ALL  THE RULING THAT WE'RE NOT  WAITING AND KICKING THIS DOWN  THE ROAD ANOTHER 8 1012, 65  YEARS. SO THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.  SAY AND THE QUESTIONS  COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU. YES,  I PUT MYSELF INTO.  >> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ECHO  WHAT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  SAYING HOW WE HAVE THIS DESERT  AND AND EAST SOUTHWARD BUT  AGAIN. JUST SO THEY BENEFIT OF  OUR RESIDENTS TO DO. WHEN THIS  WAS GENERAL DEVELOPMENT  INITIALLY THEY DID HAVE ITS  PARCELS AROUND THE CITY WHEN  THEY DO YOU KNOW HOLD IT. THEY  HAD THOSE REZONED I THINK THAT  WAS A 98 I REMEMBER GOING TO  THAT MEETING REZONING FROM  RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THEY  COULDN'T SELL. LAND THAT WAS  ZONE FOR AND THAT'S WHY  NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE THOSE  LITTLE WITHIN THE LIMITS OF  THE TIMER FOR MYSELF, I'M  SORRY.  ♪ >> YEAH.  >> IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE 2 AND  A HALF PARCEL SO THERE I DON'T  KNOW WHERE THE LAND WOULD COME  FROM, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS  DISAPPOINTED ME IS  COMMISSIONER DALLAS, IT SAID  TO HIM MY SON WAS YOUNG IT  WAS. BUTLER PARK DIDN'T EVEN  HAVE A PLAYGROUND, YEAH THAT  TIME IT YOU HAD TO DRIVE INTO  THE WHAT WE CALL THE OLDER  SECTION OF TOWN SO I DON'T  KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT  BUT JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND  WHY WE  ♪ DON'T AREAS FOR PARKS IN THAT  IN THAT AREA. BECAUSE OF AGAIN  THIS WONDERFUL LEGACY THAT  GENERAL DEVELOPMENT LEFT FOR  US THAT JUST IT'S A GIFT THAT  KEEPS GIVING  >> DOES NOT HAVE ANY  PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IN THERE  THINK EFFECTIVE PASSIVE PARK,  YEAH. I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE A  WHILE. I KNOW THAT SO AT THAT  TO CARVING UNFORTUNATELY I SAW  THAT ARE AS AN EXAMPLE OF ALL  OF THE THING TREES YOU SHOULD  NOT HAVE IN FLORIDA, HOPING.  THEY'RE OUT OF THERE. I  HAVEN'T BEEN THERE A LONG TIME  BUT IT HAD EVERY EXAMPLE OF  INVASIVE. DO NOT PLANT TREES  AND THAT AND THAT PARK SO.  >> I WAS JUST CURIOUS.  >> THAT HAD. ANY PLAYGROUND  EQUIPMENT.  >> THE PATHWAY IDEA THAT  COMMISSIONER LANGDON BROUGHT  UP THAT IS A GOOD IDEA TO TRY  TO INCORPORATE THAT BRINGS UP  THAT MULTI FACETED USED TO  TALK BECAUSE I KNOW I WILL  DRIVE.  >> TO THE BLUE HERON PARK AND  RIVER ROAD WHICH IS A DOG  PARK, BUT IT HAS A WONDERFUL.  WHILE WAY AND YOU CAN WALK.  >> A LONG WAY AND IT GOES  AROUND I GUESS THE RETENTION  PONDS COULD NEVER BEEN THAT  YOU REALLY SHOULD CHECK IT OUT  IS REALLY USE THE NATURAL  WONDERFUL IT RIGHT, IT'S IT'S  ALL  >> A GREAT IDEA FOR ITALY  BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE  CONNECTIVITY THROUGH SOME OF  THAT MORE NATURAL LAND TO  RETAIN NOT AND USE THAT A  CONNECTIVE PARKS THROUGH FROM  WATER CONNECTED TRAIL SYSTEM  DOWN TO THE EARLY PART.  ♪ >> RIGHT SO THAT IS GOOD YOU  GO THERE AND THERE'S PEOPLE  THERE AND THE DOG PARK SO  THERE'S PEOPLE AROUND WOULD  LIKE TO GO TO PARKS, THEY'RE  ISOLATED OKAY, YEAH, BUT WHEN  YOU GO THERE AND THEY DO HAVE  THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THAT  THOSE PEOPLE AROUND BUT YOU  CAN STILL GET AWAY FROM FROM  THEM IN AND IT'S IT'S REALLY A  NEAT NEAT IDEA THAT WHAT THEY  DO AND IT'S MULTI USE OF THE  PROPERTY LIKE I SAID I'M SURE  SOME OF THOSE WERE RETENTION  PONDS WETLANDS THEY HAD TO  KEEP SO IT'S A WAY TO HAVE A W  STATUS IDEA.  >> MARINA PARK YEAH I BROUGHT  SOME PARKS ARE VERY SPECIFIC  VERY YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S  GREAT THAT WE  >> PARK PORT  ♪ >> AT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT  IT THAT SKIPS YES, YES AND  WHEN I HAD MY LITTLE LITTLE WE  WOULD I SEND AND I WILL PUT IN  THERE AND.  >> THAT'S WHEN I REALIZED I'M  NOT PERSON AND AND BELIEVE IT  OR NOT I TURNED OUT IT WAS ALL  OUT OR IT WAS ACTOR WROTE  ABOUT IT STILL HAD OR SWITCH I  KEPT IN THERE IN CASE WE RAN  INTO TROUBLE, I SAID I CAN  ALWAYS THROW US BUT THAT TURN  OVER THE CONTROL TO MY 9  YEAR-OLD I CAN GO RIGHT INTO  THIS SO THAT IT WAS IT WAS A  GREAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE  ONES THAT ARE THERE I THINK  IT'S VERY BUSY TODAY PEOPLE  HAVE DISCOVERED A BOAT PARKED  RIGHT HERE PORT.  >> I WRITE WAS THAT.  >> THEY ALLOW HUNTING IN THERE  BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PART OF  THEIR MANAGEMENT BELIEVE THAT  IS WAS WITH FWC WHAT IS WITH  THAT PURCHASE WAS FLORIDA  FOREVER FUNDS REMEMBER. I AS I  KNOW PART OF THAT PURCHASING  BUT THOSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A  MANAGEMENT.  >> AND TODAY TAKE AND FWC.  STEPS UP TO THE PLATE THAT'S  WHAT THEY SAID IT'S GOING TO  BE USED FOR HUNTING FISHING,  YOU KNOW THAT TIGER THING SO.  THAT'S PART OF THE MATCH AND  THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO WAY  THAT PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S  WHAT IT WAS ALWAYS USE FOR  BEFORE IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE  CITY FOR I ALSO YEAH IT WAS A  GREAT GREAT IDEA OF BEING  SARCASTIC OF  >> AND I THAT U.S.. THAT WAS  JUST YEAH.  ♪ ♪ >> MASTER PLAN YOU WOULD TALK  ABOUT THAT AND. AND I THINK  I'M AND I'M WELL WONDER WE GOT  ALL RIGHT. VICE MAYOR. IT'S  YOU.  >> THANK YOU REALLY THANK YOU  FOR ALL THE WORK YOU GUYS TO  TO TO REALLY MAKE OUR PARK  SYSTEM SAID EXTRA SPECIAL, I  MEAN IT IS QUITE UNIQUE OUR  CITY. IT'S ONE OF THINGS THAT  I THINK ARE SINCE SINCE  APPRECIATE. YOU KNOW I AM. I  TOOK THE TIE. WHAT A NUMBER OF  MONTHS AGO ACTUALLY READ THIS  ENTIRE MASTER PLAN IN DETAIL.  >> MYSELF FEW TIMES I MEAN IT  WAS IT'S IT'S A BOOK. AT THIS  POINT YOU KNOW PRETTY OBSOLETE  WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE  POPULATION CHANGES AND SO MUCH  THAT'S TAKEN PLACE IN OUR CITY  SO ADVOCATE OF OF NEW MASTER  PLAN TO REALLY LOOK AT THINGS  AND AND I I'D LIKE TO SEE IT  ALL. WE LISTEN TO OUR CITIZENS  IF WE APPRECIATE IT. ALL  THAT'S GOING ON TRY TO LOOK AT  IT FROM FROM A HIGH LEVEL  PERSPECTIVE WITH ALL THAT  DEVELOPMENT WILL WHAT'S GOING  ON. IN THE CITY OF PORT. I  THINK WHILE WE NEED TO HAVE  TARGETED PARKS. FORWARD, YOU  KNOW NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS  TALKING POINTS YOU TEACH  LOCATED OUT WHICH WE  DESPERATELY NEED. A REAL  EMPHASIS ON PROTECTING THE  SENSITIVE LANDS. KEEPING  THINGS SIMPLE AND UNDEVELOPED  I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO A  LOT OF FOR FOLKS. IT AND I  THINK THAT DIRECTION NEEDS TO  GO THAT WAY WITH A CAREFUL  BALANCE I DON'T KNOW HOW  REALISTIC IT IS. SO MANY PARKS  WITHIN X. NOW WALKING DISTANCE  AT THE START OF A 140 SQUARE  MILES IT'S JUST SPEAKING NOT  ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO DO.  BUT STRATEGICALLY.  >> WE COULD DO SOME WONDERFUL  PART, YOU KNOW IT. AND I  REALLY SING THAT THE ABILITY  TO PARTNER. TO PARTNER WITH  ALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.  OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT  PEOPLE. THAT TO ME SO  IMPORTANT ORDER TO YOU KNOW  WHETHER IT'S IT'S TOO WE DO  FEEL THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A 20  ACRE PARK FORCE OR EVEN  COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT CAN  CREATE PART LIKE AREAS AND  OPEN SPACE. I THINK WE REALLY  HAVE TO LEVERAGE. THOSE  PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE THEY HAVE  THE MONEY TO DO IT. WE DO. YOU  KNOW. TO DEVELOP REAL.  INTRICATE PART. LIKE NETWORK  LIKE WE WEST OUT EAST IT'S  GOING TO COST US A LOT AND AND  IT'S GOING COST OR CITIZENS A  LOT TO DO AND I THINK THAT WE  CAN GET WATCH LEVERAGE OUT OF  4 PLAYERS BECAUSE US. THERE  ARE DEVELOPMENTS IN ADVANCE  CITY AND BRINGS PEOPLE TO  THEIR AREAS. AND SO I THINK  THAT'S IMPORTANT AS FOR YOU  KNOW, I COULD SHE GET ITALY  HAVE LIKE THOSE MAKE SENSE  STRATEGICALLY TO ME. I ALSO  AND. I MEAN WE WE SHOULD TAKE  ADVANTAGE OF. THE UNIQUENESS  OF MINERAL SPRINGS, WE HAVE TO  I MEAN WE'VE GONE ROUND ROBIN  WITH AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF  LOOK WE HAVE THAT 2019 PLAN  DIDN'T WORK WHEN IT DEVELOPED  PARKS AND WE'RE GOING MAKE AN  INVESTMENT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE  IT'S FINALLY TIME TO DO  SOMETHING THERE AND BECAUSE  THAT OPENS UP. MAKING THAT  ATTRACTION FOR WATER  POPULATION OF 4 CITY. IT'S  GOING TO IT. FORCE A LOT OF  CHANGE IN THAT OVERALL  UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT WE  MAY TO OURSELVES. WE'RE HAVE  CONTROL OVER BUT BRINGING  PEOPLE TO AREA WILL HELP. AND  AND THE LEGACY TRAIL  CONNECTION THAT WILL SO I  THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE RADAR  AND AND THE 2019 PLANTS, RICE  PLAN IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY  TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. MAYBE WE  JUST NEED TO ACCEPT THAT  THAT'S THE PLAN PHYSICIAN WE  FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT.  IT'S FAR IS.  >> JOE WAS I MEAN THAT'S  PRETTY FAR SPICY THAT IT'S  STRATEGIC AREA. YOU KNOW, BUT  AGAIN I THINK.  >> FROM FROM. MY STANDPOINT.  IN CONNECTION WITH THIS MASTER  PLAN IS GOING TO TO BE A GOOD  SENSE COST. MANAGEMENT HERE  US. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT  OF MONEY TO DO THE THINGS WE  NEED TO DO HELP OF OUT EAST  PARK SYSTEM AND YOU KNOW WE'RE  GOING TO HAVE TO FIND THE  MONEY SOMEWHERE TO DO ALL THE  STUFF SO YOU KNOW IN A RULE IS  IS THAT OF HOW WE BEST MAX  LIFE THINK GORE PEOPLE YOU  KNOW THESE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS  ARE IMPORTANT SWITCH SWING  SETS OR FEELS ACTIVITY WORRY  IT TO PARKS THAT THE PEOPLE  LIVE OUT EAST ARE LOOKING FOR  AT THE SAME CRIME. THE  OPPORTUNITY HERE IS TO CREATE  A LOT MORE NATURAL. PARK  ENVIRONMENTS WHICH I THINK ARE  A LITTLE LOWER MAINTENANCE AND  AT THE SAME TIME. LATE TO THE  VALUE OF OUR OVERALL PARTS NOT  A BIG ADVOCATE OF TRYING TO  YOU KNOW PLAY AROUND WITH  ORANGE HAMMOCK AND SOME OF  THESE AREAS. MY ATTITUDE WE'VE  GOT ENOUGH. PLAY JUST WITHIN  2. YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN THE  GEOGRAPHY OF THE CITY SO YOU  KNOW. WE DON'T BUT IT MAKES A  LITTLE SENSE ISSUE TO DEAL  WITH MY ESTIMATION WE NEED TO  FOCUS. AND AND YOU KNOW. SO I  THINK YOU KNOW AGAIN I THINK  IT'S AGAIN IT'S NECESSARY. WE  GOT OUT. YOU KNOW WE'RE WE'RE  CREATING MASTER PLANS FOR ALL  KINDS OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT.  AND IT'S LONG OVERDUE TO DO  THE SAME THING WITH OUR PARKS  AND RECS IN IN OUR NATURAL  LANDS AND CONSERVATION OR SO  I'M ALL IN ON THIS WE CAN MAKE  IT MAKE SENSE ECONOMICALLY.  >> AND JUST JUST TO SPEAK TO  PARTNERSHIPS THAT YOU'RE  TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE BEEN  WORKING WITH LIMITS THAT WE DO  VILLAGE TAR FARMS ON BRINGING  IN SOME PUBLIC RECREATIONAL  USE AS PART OF THAT  DEVELOPMENT.  OKAY YOU'VE GOT PUBLICLY  ACCESSIBLE PARK THAT THAT'S  THAT'S THE KEY. SO WE HAVE TO  REMEMBER WE ALWAYS BALANCE  THAT BECAUSE SOME  MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITIES DO  NOT LEAVE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.  AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO  KIND OF PICK UP THAT DO. DON'T  WRITE. I MEAN A LOT OF THE  OPEN SPACE CONVERSATIONS WITH  HAT SORRY, NOT THAT THE SPOT  ANYWAY, YEAH. YOU KNOW LOST MY  TRAIN. WELL WERE TALKING ABOUT  PARKS FROM ONLY ACCESSIBLE  YEAH WE WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO  DO MORE OF THAT IN MOST OF OUR  OPEN SPACE CONVERSATIONS HAVE  DATED SINGLE FAMILY HOME  DEVELOPMENTS THAT DOES NOT IN  GENERAL POPULATION OF THE  CITY. TO BE HONEST I WOULDN'T  EVEN COME AND ARE OPEN SPACE  CALCULATIONS I DON'T KNOW IF  THEY DO IT NOT A COUPLE  QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. WHERE  THE COUNTY SCHOOLS PROPERTY  OUT EAST OF TOLEDO BLADE. A A  LIST I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THAT  OUT BECAUSE HIGH PLATEAU  ASSETS IS AS AS SANDY WELL  KNOWS, I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF  PENCE AT THEIR EXPENSE. AND  AND I'D LIKE US TO THINK  ABOUT. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE  A COMMUNITY CENTER OUT EAST  BUT REALLY STRATEGIC TERMS OF  WHERE WE PUT AND THEN MY MIND  OF ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY  CENTERS WE HAVE TO THAT VERY  VALUABLE DIFFERENT REASONS.  BUT FOR ME THE MORGAN CENTER  BEING NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL  AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT  PLAY SAFE PLACE FOR KIDS TO  HANG OUT AND HAVE ALL THAT  WONDERFUL PROGRAMMING THAT  ADDRESSES THEIR NEEDS. I COULD  GET BEHIND THE COMMUNITY  CENTER. THAT WAS NEXT TO A  HIGH SCHOOL AND SORT OF HAVE  THAT MORGAN CENTER MODEL.  ALTHOUGH THERE IS A LITTLE  VOICE IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD  WE COULD ALSO PARTNER WITH  THEM PROVIDES TEEN CENTERS AND  WE NEED TO STOP LOOKING OUT OF  THE BOX IN TERMS OF HOW DO YOU  SATISFY THE NEEDS PRIMARILY  AND THEN WANTS OF OUR  RESIDENTS WITHOUT. ARE  ADMITTING. I HATE TO PUT IT  THAT WAY WITHOUT BURDENING OUR  GENERAL AND I ALWAYS COME  BACK. 2, 3 THINGS IT AND  BELIEVE ME THIS IS NOT A  NEGATIVE COMMENT PARKS. I  THINK GOT AWESOME. YOU DO AN  INCREDIBLE JOB. I WISH THE  CITY HADN'T EVEN HALF AS GOOD  A JOB AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  AGAIN THAT'S NOT SLAMMING  ANYBODY IN THOSE POSITIONS.  I'M LOOKING BACK OVER THE PAST  10 OR 15 YEARS. IF WE HAVE  THEM THE JOB AND THAT  DIMENSION AS WITH DONE PARKS,  I WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS  CONVERSATION WITH YOU, BUT  PARTS  >> AND POLICE AND FIRE. IT'S 7  AND A HALF WHEN THE 7 AND A  HALF MILLION BUDGET ANNUALLY.  AND WE HAVE 25 MILLION  DOLLARS. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT  FUNDS OVER THE NEXT 5 YEARS  AND LOOKING AT THAT LIST. WE  HAVE THE I'M SURE BUT ALL  AGREED TO DO THEM TODAY I MEAN  THAT THEY'RE KIND OF A WILD  PIE IN THE SKY THINGS SO AGAIN  WHAT WHAT I'M TRYING STIMULATE  HERE TODAY IS CONVERSATIONS  ABOUT HOW DO WE APPROACH THIS  WHOLE DIFFERENT HIM SO THAT  OUR PARKS STRATEGY IS MORE  SUSTAINABLE MOVING FORWARD SO  AGAIN FIGURING OUT WHERE HIGH  SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE OUT  THERE I THINK THAT IT'S A  REALLY STRATEGIC. OPPORTUNITY.  ♪ ♪ HOW DO WE LEVERAGE PARKS. TO  HELP SUPPORT OUR ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS. SO DONE A  GREAT JOB WITH PLAYING FIELDS  AND THINGS FOR THE KIDS. WE'RE  YOUNG COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A LOT  OF CHILDREN I'M 1000% BEHIND  THAT. WHAT ABOUT THE ADULTS SO  YOU'RE GOING TO BE I'M GOING  TO BE HARPING A LOT ON AND HOW  DO WE LEVERAGE PARKS FOR MORE  OF ECO TOURISM KIND THING HOW  DO WE BRING ADULTS AND  FAMILIES HERE FROM OUTSIDE THE  COMMUNITY. TO SPEND MONEY HERE  AND ENJOY OUR PARKS. HAS TO BE  PART OF OUR THINKING AS WE  MOVE FORWARD. WE ALSO NEED TO  REALLY WORK AND THANK OUT OF  THE BOX ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF  FUNDING. THE STAR FARM THINGS.  WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THAT  AND JUST WITHOUT ALL KINDS OF  LIGHT OUTSIDE I KNOW THAT  THERE DEVELOPERS VERY  INTERESTED IN THAT YORKSHIRE  AREA GET AHEAD OF AND FIGURE  OUT HOW TO STATUS COMMUNITY  NEEDS THERE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S  PROJECT. WE NEED TO REALIZE  EVERY TIME WE HAD A PARK. IT'S  A MAINTENANCE COSTA THAT AND  AND THAT'S NOT CHEAP AND IF WE  CAN GET OTHER PEOPLE TO BUILD  VENDOR MAINTAIN THOSE  PROPERTIES. WELL BE MUCH  BETTER OFF. I'M REALLY  INTERESTED IN YOUR MASTER  PLAN. WHEN YOU THANK YOU. NEED  SOME MONEY BUT BUT I THINK  THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AND  BRAIN THINKING. FROM STAFF. IN  TERMS OF HOW WE APPROACH  EASTER SALFORD YOU HAVE JUST  ONE WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE NOT  WHAT THAT STUFF STAFF IN A  INTENDED ON BRINGING FORWARD  REQUESTS FOR MASTER PLAN AND  THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BUT WE DID  NOT GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS OF  THE BUDGET THIS YEAR BUT I  THINK WHAT WE'RE WE'RE FINDING  IN YOU'RE SEEING FROM THIS  PRESENTATION IS ITS TIME AND  WE NEED TO REALLY TACKLE THAT.  >> AND IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK  AT ITALY AVENUE. I PROBABLY  MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THAT PART  OF THAT MASTER PLAN IS HAVING  A SITE MASTER PLAN SPECIFIC TO  ITALY WHAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE  THAT COULD A GREAT DEAL OF  AREA OUT. SO WE WE CAN PUT ALL  THAT TOGETHER WE CAN BRING IT  BACK FOR DISCUSSION. AND SEE  HOW COMMISSION WANTS TO PURSUE  IT. I I JUST WANT TO. SO TO  REINFORCE WHAT VICE-MAYOR SAID  BECAUSE I HAD SAID IT SOMEWHAT  DIFFERENTLY AND MY MY OPENING  COMMENTS REALLY NEED TO FIGURE  OUT HOW WE LEVERAGE OTHER  PEOPLE'S MONEY. WE'VE GOT A  WE'VE GOT TO DO IT TO THINK  THAT WE CAN REPLICATE. WELL  DONE WEST SOUTH IT IS THE  SERVICE TOO I JUST DON'T THINK  WE CAN AFFORD IT I SORT  FRIGHTENING BACK OF THE  ENVELOPE. AND NOW IT'S US. WE  TALK A LOT ABOUT OUR SERVICE  LEVEL AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW THE  ACRE PARK'S FOR EVERY 1000.  >> RESIDENTS.  >> WHEN DIE.  >> DIDN'T THE MATH ON THAT YOU  NEVER WANT TO SEE IT  CALCULATOR AT MY HAND WHEN I  WHEN I DID THE MATH ON THAT WE  ONLY HAVE LIKE 3 3 AND A HALF  SENT TO GO BEFORE WE BOTH FELL  OUR SERVICE LEVEL FOR THE  CITY. AND AND THAT ALL OUT  WEST. SO. THAT SOME BALANCING.  SO I THINK PART OF THE  CONVERSATION AS PAINFUL AS IT  MIGHT BE. DEWEY FINN OUT. ARE  PARKLAND OUT LAST. SO WE CAN  MOVE SOME OF HAVE A LEVEL OUT  EAST. YOU GUYS OF A SPECIALIST  THIS AREA. IT'S NOT GOING TO  BE ME FIGURING IT OUT, BUT I  THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS  WE NEED TO LOOK AT BECAUSE  WE'RE WAY OUT OF IN TERMS OF  THE CITY IS WORKING OUT AND  AGAIN THAT'S NOT A CRITICISM.  IT'S ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CITY,  LOADED. AND WE NEED TO. CATCH  UP WITH THAT AND TRY TO A  LITTLE AHEAD OF THAT.  >> AND I SEE OUR PART AS HUGE  STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE.  >> BUT THIS CITY.  >> AND IN ADDITION TO YOU GUYS  WORKING WITH NATURAL NATURAL  SERVICES ABOUT. I REALLY WANT  TO SEE YOU GUYS WORKING  CLOSELY WITH ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT.  >> BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE  POTENTIAL, A HUGE I USED FEEL  IS MORE ECO TOURISM.  >> I THINK KIND OF DOWN WITH  THAT. NO I THINK THAT WOULD BE  A VERY COOL WAY. SO LEVERAGE  FOR LAND THAT'S OUT THERE ANY  WET AND THAT. I'M GOING TO.  >> KYLE ON COMMISSIONER  ELRICH.  >> DID YOU SOMETHING TO THAT.  >> AND NOT TOO EVERYTHING'S  PRETTY MUCH COVERED, BUT I  REALLY LIKE TO THE  PRESENTATION I THINK IT WAS  DONE VERY WELL AND AND I WOULD  BE IN SUPPORT OF THE NEW  MASTER PLAN GOING FORWARD AS  WE GO THROUGH THAT MASTER PLAN  AND WE LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT  AREAS. YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW  WHAT THESE AREAS ARE GOING TO  LOOK LIKE BUT IF YOU WERE TO  BRING IT BACK IF THERE WAS ANY  POSSIBLE LAND ACQUISITION THAT  WE MAY NEED TO DO IN THOSE  AREAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE  COST FACTORS WERE BROUGHT BACK  AS PART OF LIKE MAYBE ONE OF  THE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS  OR WHATEVER GOING FORWARD,  VICE MAYOR BROUGHT UP ABOUT  DEVELOPMENT CONTRIBUTIONS. YOU  KNOW LIKE THE FARM ACRES STAR  FARMS. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE  LOOKING BALL FIELDS OPEN SPACE  AND TAKE CARE OF IT SO GOING  FORWARD A LOT OF THOSE  CONVERSATIONS AS YOU KNOW TAKE  PLACE THAT WOULD HELP OUT THE  CITY QUITE A BIT SO I DON'T  WANT TO BE TOO LONG GO OVER  EVERYTHING ALL OVER AGAIN THAT  THOSE WERE THE 3 MAIN FACTORS  THAT I WAS LOOKING AT MOVING  FORWARD WITH WITH PARKS AND  DEFINITELY MASTER PLAN THAT  LETS SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.  THANK YOU MAYOR. ALL RIGHT  THAT'S.  >> IT NOT EVEN A MINUTE THAT.  >> RIGHT COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> I AM 100% ON BOARD WITH  USING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO  HELP WITH OUR PARKS. START  FARMS. THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT  OF DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN SO  THEY DIDN'T GIVE US THAT MUCH  WHAT THEY USED TO SELL US ON  THERE. STAR HOW WE GOT  ♪ USING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY IS  NOT JUST DEVELOPERS.  ♪ THE SORRY, I'M SORRY. WHEN THE  COUNTY HAD US TAKE OVER THE  MAINTENANCE OF OUR PARKS. THAT  WAS A HUGE TO OUR GENERAL  FUND. IT WAS AT THAT TIME I IF  I REMEMBER 1.3 MILLION  DOLLARS. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE  WHAT THAT IS TODAY WITH THE  COST OF MAINTENANCE SALARIES  AND ALL OF THAT WHAT CAUGHT  JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT. 1.8  MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAD TO  EVEN THOUGH WE'RE STILL PAYING  TAXES TO THE COUNTY. THAT THE  COUNTY ALSO I'M GOING RECORD  IT. THEY HAVE ACT. THE BEACHES  IN COUNTIES THAT ARE WITHIN  CITY LIMITS. BUT THEY ARE NOT  HELPING US.  >> WITH OUR AQUATIC CENTER.  >> YES THIS THIS IS A  CONVERSATION, YES, THIS IS A  SORE SUBJECT WITH ME. BUT AT  THE SAME TIME IN 4 LOOKING TO  USE ELDER PEOPLE'S MONEY, OUR  TAXPAYERS ARE FUNDING A LOT OF  THAT. TO THE CAM.  >> AND.  >> WE'VE NEVER REALLY HAD A  CONVERSATION ON HOW TO HELP  GET SOME OF THAT BACK INTO OUR  CITY. TALK ABOUT OUT EAST AND  I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT WAY TO  HAVE PARKS OUT EAST. BUT WE  CANNOT LOSE SIGHT TO THAT  ACTIVITY CENTER 6 AND ACTIVITY  CENTER 10 DOES NOT ALLOW  SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO  THOSE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE  GOING TO BE THERE. I AM  LOOKING AT PUTTING PARKS AND  ACTIVITY CENTER YES LANGUAGE  PARK IS AN ACTIVITY CENTER 6  BUT THAT WILL BE ECONOMIC  DRIVER AND AN ECONOMIC DRAW.  SO THAT THAT AREA IS OFF THE  TABLE FAR AS NEIGHBORHOOD  PARKS AND MAYBE COMMUNITY PARK  OUT THERE, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR  BECAUSE THAT WOULD TO ME TO  DEVELOP RESPONSIBILITY FOR  THOSE MULTIFAMILY PLACES THAT  ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE.  >> THAT'S WE ARE TAKING AWAY  SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL  PROPERTIES OUT THERE. SO WE  DON'T NEED TO FOCUS ON  ANYTHING IN MY OPINION TOO  MUCH EAST OF.  >> I GUESS MAYBE LIKE SANDRA  TAYLOR LANE AT YORK SHIRE.  >> SO WE REALLY NEED TO.  >> MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T  LOSE.  >> SITE OF ACTIVITY CENTER 6  AND NOT TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE  MASTER PAINTING OF PARKS.  >> EXCEPT FOR BEING WITH WHEN  THEY READ REDO THE MASTER PLAN  OR CREATE A NEW ONE THAT THAT  BECAUSE THAT WASN'T EVEN TO  THE SET OF 6 WASN'T EVEN IN  OUR LANGUAGE WHEN THIS WAS SO  THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN  THIS. DON'T FORGET ABOUT 10  THEM.  >> THE SENATOR'S ACTIVITY  CENTER 6 IN 10 WHICH IS BRAND  NEW.  >> I'M USING OTHER PEOPLE'S  MONEY, FIGURE OUT HOW TO  ADVERTISE THESE REALLY UNIQUE  THINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN  OUR CITY. WE HAVE THE STATE  FOREST. WE HAVE WE HAVE ORANGE  HAMMOCK RANCH. WE HAVE ALL OF  THESE. PARKS INNER CITY YOU  GUYS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB  HAVING YOU KNOW THIS IS A  DURING THE SUMMER. CHECK OUT  THE LOCAL PARKS IN THE SUMMER  AND THAT I THE FEEDBACK THAT I  HAD HEARD WAS GREAT BECAUSE A  LOT OF PEOPLE I DIDN'T KNOW  THAT MARK WAS THERE OH MY  GOSH. I DIDN'T KNOW EVEN  MYAKKA HEAD TO CREEK  ENVIRONMENTAL PARK, YES, A LOT  OF PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT IT BUT  NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE HAVE GONE  TO IT AND THAT IS HUGE DRAW.  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. EVERY  TIME THERE'S A TOURNAMENT HERE  BRINGS NEW PEOPLE TO OUR CITY.  >> EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE IS  SOME KIND LIKE A FOOTBALL GAME  OR A BASEBALL GAME. FOR ALL  ESPECIALLY. THEY COME FROM ALL  OVER THE AREA. AND THAT'S NOT  EVEN THAT'S WEEKLY WEEKLY  PLAY. I SEE IT AND IN THE  RESTAURANTS, I SEE IT AROUND  TOWN THEN GOING OVER TO  POLITICS AND FILLING UP THE  COOLERS AND STUFF, OK. IT'S  STILL AN  >> AND IF WE COULD HAVE  SOMETHING TO SHOWCASE OUR CITY  SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE THERE  BECAUSE THEY SOMETIMES HAVE AN  HOUR OR 2 IN BETWEEN GAMES AND  THEY JUST NEED TO DECOMPRESS  GOING TO A PARK MIGHT BE A  GOOD THINK THAT THEY COULD DO.  >> TO SHOWCASE THAT TO THE  PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE THAT  ARE COMING IN. IT IS ALL I  DRIVEN. AND PARKS ARE  COMPONENT OF THAT ECONOMIC  DRIVE DRIVING COMPONENT  BECAUSE THEY DO SUSTAIN THE  LOCAL BUSINESSES HERE IN TOWN.  DOG PARK OUT HE SAID WOULD  LOVE TO SEE ONE POSSIBLY ITALY  AVENUE WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT  THAT CURRENT PARK. I DON'T I  HAVEN'T BEEN THERE IN A QUITE  A LONG TIME SO I WILL BE GOING  IN THIS NEXT COMING WEEK TO  TAKE A LOOK AT IT.  >> THE BIGGEST IS WE'VE GOT TO  FIGURE OUT HOW TO FILL THOSE  VOIDS HE'S JUST OF  CHAMBERLAIN. AND WEST OF. AND  THAT WATER YORKSHIRE SOMEWHERE  IN THERE.  >> BECAUSE IT IS HUGE A LOT OF  THE RESIDENTS ARE WHEN ARE WE  GOING TO SEE SOMETHING WHEN  ARE WE GOING SEE SOMETHING.  >> I LOVE THIS THE FOUNDATION  YOU GUYS UPSET WITH THIS  PRESENTATION. I LOOK FORWARD  TO SEEING HOW IT'S BUILT UPON  BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT  THIS IS FOR TODAY'S  CONVERSATION. SO THANK YOU. SO  >> FOLLOW-UP TO THAT  PARTNERING WITH DEVELOPERS YOU  MENTION START ARMS BUT THAT  PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED  ANVIL I THINK IT IS ON PUTTING  A LITTLE PARK ON THE OUTSKIRTS  CHATEAU. SOMETHING I WASN'T  SURE WHAT THAT WAS PHONED I'M  NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT OKAY.  AND IF THAT WOULD. BUT EVEN  WINSTAR FARMS THAT'S NOT GOING  TO BE TURNED OVER TO THE CITY.  NOT WERE NOT KNOW THE THE  DISCUSSION MOST THESE ARE THE  PUBLIC AMENITIES THAT WE GOT  TO SEE THERE AND AND THE.  >> THAT WOULD BE INCLUDING  THEM MAINTAINING OKAY.  >> BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WHEN  I KIND THEY WERE GOING TO PUT  A LITTLE CORNER POCKET PARK OR  SOMETHING THAT THEY SAID WOULD  BE AVAILABLE FOR THE ABOUT THE  SIZE OF A BARBECUE PIT WITH  PENSIONS. BUT I JUST DIDN'T  KNOW WHAT IT WAS GOING TO  ENTAIL AND I BIGGER QUESTION  WAS WE WOULD NOT BE ASSUMING  MAYBE WE ALL WANT THE I DON'T  KNOW THE DETAILS CARE 7 THAT'S  PART OF THEIR THEIR PLAN SO  THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT  DIRECTOR WRAY'S ON OUR WAY  DOWN CAN'T DRESS. DOES THAT  COMMISSIONER LANGDON BRINGS UP  A GOOD POINT ALL THE TIME THAT  YOU US MONEY. GOOD MORNING,  I'M.  >> KNOW THE CITY WILL NOT BE  TAKING OVER ANY RESPONSIBILITY  FOR THE PARKS OR THE PUBLIC  AMENITIES THAT WILL BE  PROVIDED AS PART OF STAR ARMS.  THEY HAVE A STEWARDSHIP  DISTRICT WHICH IS MUCH LIKE AN  IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. DEPUTY  ID AND THAT DISTRICT WILL BE  RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE  AND UPKEEP ALL OF THAT  PROPERTY. YOU KNOW.  >> AT THE CANDLE THE CANDLE  APPLICANT OR PROPERTY OWNER IS  ALSO TAKING CARE OF THAT IS  PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY  AND THEY WILL BE  >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT  ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT  IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED. FROM  THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT.  >> THE FINAL DESIGN HASN'T  BEEN SEEN SO WE'RE NOT SURE  EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL LOOK  LIKE. IT.  >> IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP  RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENTS  OUT OF THAT AREA AND I'M  SAYING IS WASN'T HAVE DIRECT  THERE'S THERE'S SOME TYPE OF  BARRIER THEIR ARRESTS HAVEN'T  THE FINAL DESIGNS WHICH IS  FINE SO GOING TO BE A A PART  THAT IT WILL BE PUBLICLY  ACCESSIBLE PARK THAT THE CITY  WILL NOT NEED TO MAINTAIN.  THAT'S GOOD.  >> FOR THOSE WE HAVE I KNOW  YOU LIKE THAT COMMISSIONER  LINE AND THEN WE HAD SOMEBODY  MENTIONED SCHOOL BOARD.  COMMISSIONER LINE WAS INTO  SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTIES THIS  SCHOOL BOARD IS BUYING  PROPERTIES OUT EAST. IT WAS A  LONG TIME AGO SOMETHING WAS IN  THE PAPER FOR FUTURE HIGH  SCHOOL OR SOMETHING THAT THEY  SET OUT THERE AND THIS CITY  DOES I'M SORRY SCHOOL BOARD  DOES UP.  >> LITTLE OVER 21 ACRES ON  HABERLAND. FURTHER READS KNOW  THAT'S THE ONE THAT I'M AWARE  THAT THEY WRITE CURRENTLY OUT.  YEAH AND I REMEMBER THAT WAS  IN THE PAPER BECAUSE THEY.  >> SOME OF THOSE PARCELS THAT  HOUSES AND THEY BOUGHT THE  PROPERTY PEOPLE STAY UNTIL  SUCH TIME AS THEY NEED TO  REMEMBER THAT WE MAKE NOW THAT  WHAT A DEAL MY HOUSE OUT  THERE, BUT ANYWAY, SO THERE  THERE IS PROPERTY OUT THERE.  LAST THING IS ABOUT YES SOME  CONSIDERATIONS AND PARKS, BUT  I KNOW THAT THAT'S A TOUGH  THAT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE  TYPICALLY IT'S THE ADULTS  THERE. WHEN I HAD I LITTLE  CHARGED FOR A WHILE THERE WE  EXPLORE EVERY SINGLE PART  IN NORTH PORT AND ALONG THE  LEGACY TRAIL I GOT TO KNOW  EVERY PARK IN THE AREA. SO  THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO  BRING PEOPLE INTO AREAS, I  KNOW.  >> MYAKKA HACHI CREEK IS  SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT  BEING ECONOMIC DRIVER.  >> BUT IT'S REALLY NOT. PUT  THIS. I'M IT'S NOT IF YOU  REALLY CAN'T NAVIGATE THROUGH  THE CREEK. MOST THE TIME  BECAUSE THE TEMPERATURE JUST  TAKE OVER. AND THE TIMES YEARS  AGO WHEN I DID LEAD. PADDLES  THROUGH THERE. I ACTUALLY HAD  SOMEBODY IN THE FRONT AND YOU  BROUGHT ALONG A BATTERY  OPERATED IT CHOPPER JUST SO WE  CAN GET THROUGH AT THAT I'M  TALKING PUTTING AT RAIN APART  AND MAKING THE WAY TO BUTLER  PARK AND GOING BACK AND FORTH.  PLUS THERE'S THAT REALLY BIG  ORANGE AT THE WATER. PLANT  WHICH IS GOOD THAT IT'S THERE  BUT IT IS REALLY. EXHAUSTING  THAT IT'S A LONG PORTAGE JUST  TO ADDRESS ADULT RECREATIONAL  ACTIVITIES. FOR YEARS ON OUR  SURVEYS THAT WE DO ANNUALLY.  >> THE NUMBER ONE REQUESTED  MANATEE IS WALKING HIKING  TRAILS EVERYTHING IT'S THE  THING.  >> GREAT THAT THAT'S WHAT  WE'RE TRYING AT OUR EXISTING  PARKS IS MAKE THOSE SIDEWALK  CONNECTIONS.  >> BUT IF WE GET A SYSTEM OF  TRAILS THAT WILL CONNECT ARE  ALL THE PARKS.  >> AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF  OUR GOALS, YES BECAUSE THAT  GREENWAY TRAIL FROM PRICED  EVERY MODERATE PEOPLE LOVE IT  I'VE BEEN AND I LOVE HOW YOU  HAVE IT THE DISTANCE SO YOU  KNOW IF YOU DO IT 4 TIMES YOU  DID A IT'S JUST IT'S JUST  GREAT THE OTHER THING IS THAT  IS NOT NEVER GOES INTO A  NATURAL AREA, IT'S ALL.  >> THESE ARE PAVED OR BAR WALK  CORRECT, THERE'S NO YOU'RE  NEVER WALKING ON THE GROUND  WITH THAT SO I DON'T KNOW IF  THERE WOULD BE A WAY.  >> THE OPTION IS I OFF OF I  TALK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME  BUT THERE IS A PARK THERE THAT  STARTS WITH IMPROVED SERVICES  AND THEN THERE IS A LITTLE  NATURE OBJECTION GO THROUGH  THE WOODS IF YOU WANT TO DO SO  NONE OF THAT.  >> IF WE ARE NOT PROPERTY  EITHER SIDE OF THAT.  >> GREENWAYS TRAIL THAT GOES  FROM PRICED IT AT THE MOMENT  WE QUITE A BIT BUT I WE  HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT YET TO DO  SOMETHING LIKE THAT OKAY JUST  LIKE AN OPTION PEOPLE WANTED  TO GET OFF OF THAT AND JUST GO  THROUGH IN EXPLORING BUT I  THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE  LOOKING FOR NEXT STEP FOR THAT  AND FOR IN GENERAL.  >> AND THAT'S ALL I ALL RIGHT.  THE CONVERSATIONS, VICE MAYOR.  >> COUPLE THINGS THAT  EVERYBODY SPEAK OF THEM. I'D  LIKE TO SEE IF IF WE MIGHT BE  ABLE TO EXPLORE SOME  OPPORTUNITIES FOR. SOME  REGIONAL PARKS COLLABORATION I  MEAN YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE.  HAVING TO HAVE INHERITED THE  RESPONSIBILITY FOR A LOT OF  THE COUNTY PARKS THAT YOU KNOW  GOT TURNED OVER TO US. GORDON  AND COST BUT WE STILL CONTINUE  TO PAY AND I GET THAT BUT AT  THE SAME TIME STRATEGIC  ALLIANCE THERE AND AND I THINK  THAT THE COUNTY AS WELL AS  CITY CAN BENEFIT FROM AT LEAST  EXPLORING THE OPPORTUNITY  CERTAINLY OUT THE WELL IN PART  CARRY ALONG RIVER ROAD.  THERE'S ALL KINDS TALK  OPPORTUNITY FOR REGIONAL LIKE  PARK. YOU KNOW AGAIN DOESN'T  HELP US SO MUCH ON THE EAST  SIDE OF TOWN BUT AT THE SAME  TIME IF THE NEIGHBORING COUNTY  CHARLOTTE COUNTY THAT WE COULD  HAVE SOME DIALOGUE WITH  CENTENNIAL PARK'S GREAT AREA,  BUT THERE MAY BE INTEREST WHO  KNOWS I DON'T KNOW WHETHER  WE'VE EVER EXPORTER TO TALK  ABOUT BUT THERE MIGHT BE  COLLABORATION THERE ANOTHER  WAY TO LEVERAGE AND BUILD  PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE REGIONAL  PARKS ARE A GREAT THING AND  THEY'RE EXPENSIVE BUT THEY  OFFER A VARIETY SERVICES. THE  OTHER THING IS. IS IS  EXPLORING THE IDEAS OF  BRINGING A SPORTS ARENA  COLISEUM KIND APPROACH TO ART  SOUTH COUNTY AREA ME WE'VE GOT  THE STADIUM IT WILL IN PART  BUT IN THE. SECTION OR ALONG  THE 75 CARTER'S THERE MAY BE  SOME OPPORTUNITIES, IT'S NOT  SOMETHING THE CITY MIGHT TO  SWITCH PARKS AND RECS BUT IT'S  CERTAINLY SOMETHING ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT FOCUS ON BECAUSE  IT'S A HUGE DRAW, YOU IT IT  HAS ALL KINDS TOLD POTENTIAL  WHERE AND AND YOU HIT ON IT  THERE DID THAT TRAIL EXPANSION  FOR HIKING AND WALKING ADULTS  I THINK REALLY YOU KNOW THAT'S  WHAT THEY LOOK FOR THEY WANT  TO BE ABLE TO BIKE THEY WANT  TO BE ABLE HIKE THEY WON'T BE  ABLE TO WALK AND RUN AND I  THINK THERE YOU KNOW A LOT  LESS. HIM PAT TO THAT KIND OF  PARK LIKE ENVIRONMENT AND I  THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ALL  WATCHED PART OF THAT. AND THEN  FINALLY I'D LOVE AND I DON'T  HAVE TO DO IT IT'S YET TO TAKE  ADVANTAGE. THE WATERWAYS WE  HAVE. I MEAN WE'VE GOT AND  WE'VE THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY  TO CREATE SOME RECREATIONAL.  INVOLVEMENT THERE WITH WITH  ALL WORKING OUT YOU DON'T HAVE  AN OCEAN. OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE  A BAY BUT YOU KNOW. MAYBE  THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT  BECAUSE OF THE WAY THOSE LANDS  IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW AGAIN IT'S  PARTNERSHIPS COLLABORATION BUT  YOU KNOW THAT REAL OUT OF THE  BOX THINKING TO CREATE SOME  ADDITIONAL RECREATIONAL KIND  OF ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU KNOW  MAKES A SPECIAL MAKES US  DIFFERENT AND DRAWS PEOPLE TO  PORT.  >> JULIANA BILLY ASSISTANT  CITY MANAGER TO APPOINT WAS  MAYOR WE HAVE BEEN WORKING  VERY ACTIVELY ON A COUPLE OF  THOSE THINGS JUST MENTIONED.  I'M PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO  WE HAD HOCKEY TYPE SCHOOL  EXPRESS AN INTEREST. NUMBER  DEVELOPMENT MANAGER ANTHONY  GREEN US. NOW LATER DIRECTOR  LINE OR ARE BOTH VERY  EXPERIENCED AND WORK VERY HARD  WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO  DO JUST THOSE THINGS. SO WE  DID HAVE AN INTEREST AND I  DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF  IT IS WE DID HAVE SOMEONE  INTERESTED EITHER THE SUMTER  TOLEDO BLADE SITE. WE HAD A  MEETING ABOUT 3 MONTHS AGO  SOME GENTLEMAN WITH RESPECT TO  POSSIBLE ROLLING ALONG THE  COCOA PALM. IF ANY OF YOU KNOW  SHE'S VERY VERY ENERGETIC AND  ALWAYS OUT THERE TALKING TO  DEVELOPERS THESE SORTS OF  THINGS. ONE OF THE OTHER  THINGS I WANT TO MENTION THAT  I THINK VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE  RECORD IS WITH RESPECT TO OUR  PRE COMMUNITIES AND I DISCUSS  DISCUSS WITH TO MAKE SURE I  WAS ON THE RIGHT PATH. WE CAN  TRY TO. YOU KNOW TALK TO  DEVELOPERS MAKE SUGGESTIONS  ABOUT PARTNERING WITH US. BUT  AS FAR WHO WAS GOING TO  ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PROVIDE  THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE PRE  PLATTED COMMUNITIES IN THE  ORIGINAL DEVELOPER GENERAL  DEVELOPMENT ONLY SET CERTAIN  AMOUNT OF SIDES OF PARKS ASIDE  WE'RE GOING IT WILL BE  INCUMBENT UPON THE CITY TO  PROVIDE THOSE NOW THAT BEING  SAID WE CAN ASK INTERESTED  PARTIES AND DEVELOPERS IF  THEY'RE INTERESTED BUT WE'VE  GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT  WE'RE NOT PORTRAYING A  DEVELOPER EXEMPTION FOR  EXAMPLE, SO WE TRY TO DO THAT  OVER TIME AND SOME OF THEM  APPROACH SOMETIMES THAT YOU  KNOW THEY EXPRESS AN INTEREST  HIGH HOW ABOUT THAT SITE MAY  JUST BE A PARK SITE SO WE WE  DO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS  ALL THE TIME. SOME OF THEM  COME TO FRUITION, SOME OF THEM  DO, BUT WE DO ALWAYS HAVE IT  ON THE BACK OR RADAR WANT IT  PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THANK  YOU.  >> I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE OF  ANY WORKS REGULARLY WITH ME ON  SOME OF THE PARK'S INFORMATION  AND SHE IS BIGGEST ONE TO SAY  HEY TRUST WE HAVE THE STAFF  AND SHE'S GETTING IT WHEN  SHE'S OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT  THE THINGS THAT SHE CAN OFFER  TO BUSINESSES COMING.  >> EXPERTS.  >> I'M JUST SAYING  COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND JUST  A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS THANK  YOU MAYOR. WE HAVE GREAT  PROGRAMMING FOR AND CENTERS.  BUT I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS  WE DON'T HAVE ADULTS BRINGING  KIDS INTO THE CITY IS WE  REALLY DON'T HAVE OUTDOOR  PROGRAMMING. ALL RIGHT THAT'S  SO AGAIN JUST OBSESS A LITTLE  BIT MORE ON SORT OF ECO  TOURISM KINDS OF THINGS I  REALLY SEE THAT AS PARK SPREAD  DOLLS LOVE THE IDEA WATERWAYS.  I I LOVE. I'M I'M HIKER I JUST  LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HI CAN HAVE  A PRETTY LITTLE THAT'S  WHATEVER I WOULD REALLY LIKE  THAT TOO.  >> AS IF I MAY WE DO HAVE  THOSE PROGRAMS WE DO HAVE A.  PROGRAM THAT WE DO PARTNERSHIP  WITH THE NATURE AND WE ALSO  KAYAK TOURS THAT WE DO WITH  OUR OWN MAYOR. SO WE ARE  DELVING INTO THAT PROGRAMMING  AREA FOR OUTDOOR EDUCATION.  WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH  NATURAL RESOURCES ON THAT. BUT  AGAIN. YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED  TO DO IS MAY FIND AN  OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT THROUGH  A COMPACT CONTRACTUAL  PROVIDER.  >> BECAUSE OUR STAFF CAN ONLY  GO SO WITH THE SERVICES THAT  THEY PROVIDE OR SO WE ARE  WORKING ON THAT THAT'S GREAT  THAT'S GREAT GREAT GREAT.  >> AND I ALSO I I THINK IT'S  IMPORTANT SO BACK TO OUR  INTENT JUST FOR A MINUTE. JUST  BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN IT,  DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT AN  OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING  CREATIVE. FOR THE BENEFIT OF  OUR RESIDENTS AND THE MORE.  AND AGAIN I I'M ALWAYS GOING  TO ALL ABOUT. THAT THE MORE WE  CAN PROVIDE RECREATIONAL  OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS  THAT SOMEONE ELSE PAYS THE  BILL OR. I THINK YOU GUYS  SHOULD GET DOUBLE POINTS FOR  TO NOT JUST TO ADD A LITTLE  BIT FURTHER ON SANDY'S  CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR NATURE  WALKS OUR GO GREEN WITH PARKS.  >> THOSE DO GO OUT HE HAS  SCHEDULED THIS TIME TO GO TO  ORANGE HAMMOCK MYAKKA HACHI  CREEK THEY THEY DO HIT MAYORS.  HER TOUR THAT SHE WENT ON WITH  THE TAX WENT INTO PRAIRIE  CREEK. AND SO THEY DO TRY TO  EXPOSED TO MORE THAN JUST OUR  PARKS BUT THE ENTIRE CITY ON  ON THOSE PROGRAMS HOW DO YOU  FEEL ABOUT LIKE.  >> PROMOTING THE STATE PARK IN  OUR BOOK LET.  >> POINT AND WE DON'T CONTROL  THE INFORMATION THEY CAN MAKE  CHANGES NOT TELL US BUT I  THINK WE MIGHT HAVE AN  OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE THE  AREA AND POINT THEM IN THE  DIRECTION TO GET LATEST  INFORMATION AGAIN  OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE US LOOK  EVEN BIGGER LEVERAGING OTHER  PEOPLE'S WE CAN LOOK AT THAT  FOR THE  >> WE CAN ALSO WORK WITH  COMMUNICATIONS AND SEE WHAT  RELATIONSHIPS THERE MIGHT BE  THERE HOW WE CAN GET THAT  INFORMATION YEAH THAT WOULD BE  GREAT. THANK YOU. OK WE'RE  SHORTER AND SHORTER.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL,  WHENEVER YOU'RE READY I HAVE  CONSENSUS SAID LIKE TO SEE  ABOUT GETTING. THE OWNERS WANT  MY LIFE TO SOME OF GREAT WE'LL  KEEP IT ON THERE. OKAY. MAKE  NOTE OF THAT I JUST WANTED TO  DO IT. I BRING UP AGAIN  COMMISSIONER LANGDON MENTIONED  ABOUT HAVING THINGS FOR ADULTS  AND BRINGING ADULTS  >> I'M JUST GOING AND ON MY  SOAPBOX FOR A MINUTE AND THAT  BIKE LANES OR LACK THEREOF  IN NORTH PORT AND THAT IS THAT  SOMETHING THAT UNFORTUNATELY  WE'RE MISSING OUT ON BECAUSE I  MENTIONED HOW I I WILL DRIVE  UP TO. SARASOTA AND BY HONORE  AVENUE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BIKE  LANES EVERYWHERE WE DON'T EVEN  PRICE BOULEVARD UNFORTUNATELY,  IT'S NOT TO HAVE A DESIGNATED  BIKE LANE AND THAT IS A BIG  INDUSTRY THAT WE'RE WE'RE  CURING PEOPLE LIKE TO BUY. WE  DON'T SEE THEM HERE BECAUSE WE  DON'T WE'RE NOT BIKE-FRIENDLY  AND IT'S IRONIC. FIRST PART OF  SUMTER THAT WAS IMPROVED UPON  SAYS TODAY. HERE'S DAY THAT  WAS DONE IN 98. I THINK IT WAS  THAT HAD A BIKE LANE. AND THEN  WHEN THE OTHER SECTIONS WORD  WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE AND A  LITTLE MORE OVER THINKING  THERE WAS NO BIKE LANES AND  OCCUR SO YOU CAN'T EVEN WRITE  IN THE ROAD BECAUSE 3 YOU'RE  NEVER GOING TO GET OUT OF THE  WAY AND SIDEWALKS TO NOT TAKE  THE PLACE OF SUCH AS A  DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CYCLING  AND.  >> I SUPPORT WRITING RIGHT ON  ON SIDEWALKS JUST PUTTING THAT  OUT THERE. SO.  >> THAT IF THE CONVERSATIONS  PENSIONER I.  >> WELL WE JUST CHECKED WITH  COMMISSIONER DID YOU HAVE  ANYTHING TO WRAP UP WITH. OK  THANK WE'RE GOING GET SOME  CONSENSUS IS.  >> PUBLIC  >> PUBLIC COMMENT OKAY.  >> OR IF I COULD GET A  CONSENSUS TO HAVE CITY MANAGER  AND STAFF BRING FORWARD  FUNDING OPTIONS. PARKS MASTER  PLAN TO INCLUDE IT AVENUE  PROPERTY. FOR THE JULY  WORKSHOP FOR ADDITIONAL  CONVERSATION. WE HAVE A  CONSENSUS BY COMMISSIONER  PARKS AND REC BRINGING BACK.  >> COST FOR THEIR. LET ME  REPEAT THAT, YES FAT.  >> TO HAVE CITY MANAGER AND  STAFF BRING FORWARD FUNDING  OPTIONS FOR PARKS MASTER PLAN  TO INCLUDE ITALY AVENUE  PROPERTY. AT THE JULY WORKSHOP  FOR ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION.  RIGHT SECONDS THE DISCUSSION.  SO IT'S SENSE OF SMELL SO  SORRY. SO CAN TO MENTION GOT  COMMISSIONER DOWN SOMETHING  YOU'RE YES I AM. I DON'T KNOW.  AND AND THAT'S BECAUSE. I'M  ALWAYS RELUCTANT TO PUT A TIME  FRAME TOO AGGRESSIVE. A TIME  FRAME ON. STAFF'S WORK. THE  CAUSE.  >> WE.  >> AND CAN SOMETIMES  INADVERTENTLY HANDICAPPED THEM  FROM GIVING US THEIR BEST  EFFORT.  >> SO I WOULD WANT STAFF.  >> AGAIN I THINK IT'S BEEN A  PRETTY CONSISTENT MESSAGE FROM  ALL OF US THAT WE REALLY NEED  TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX AND  AND GET CREATIVE. I'M NOT SURE  THAT PUTTING A JULY DATE ON  THAT AND AND I GET I KNOW YOU  PROBABLY WANT TO WORK SOME  BUDGET ISSUES SINCE WE'RE  STILL HAVING THOSE  CONVERSATIONS. I THINK WE MY  EYE. BUT ANYWAY.  >> SO.  >> WE WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE  THAT DEADLINE.  >> I DON'T THINK WE'D BE ABLE  TO BRING BACK THE BEST  INFORMATION WE CERTAINLY CAN  BRING THAT BUT WE HAVE. BUT I.  WE CAN REMOVE THE DEADLINE  JUST AGREE THAT WE'RE GOING TO  BRING ALL THAT INFORMATION  BACK. I'M IN WHEREVER WE'RE AT  IN JULY WE CAN LET YOU KNOW.  >> SO I WOULD BE A NO PHONE  ONLY BECAUSE I THINK IT IF IT  WERE A LITTLE BROADER OR ARE  MAYBE EVEN IF IF THE CONSENSUS  WAS MORE. BRING BACK WHAT  YOU'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THE  MASTER PLAN. SO WE CAN HAVE A  GOOD CONVERSATION. IN THIS  CYCLE. I WOULD SUPPORT THAT  BUT FOR THE CURRENT. AND  CENSUS AND THAT'S  >> THE CONSENSUS WAS TO BRING  BACK FUNDING OPTIONS THAT'S  BETWEEN NOW AND JULY SO THAT  WE THEN WE CAN HAVE  CONVERSATION AS TO POSSIBLY  PUT SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET.  FOR THIS YEAR I HEARD STAFF  SAY THAT. PARKS AND REC COULD  USE THE IMPACT FEES WOULD HAVE  AND AGAIN YOU SAID THAT YOU  WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK  THAT SO BASICALLY ALL IT  BRINGING FOR JULY.  >> THESE FUNDING OPTIONS FOR  DOING A PARKS AND REC MASTER  ACTIONS THAT WASN'T OKAY THE  FOR THE MASTER PLAN. I DIDN'T  HEAR THAT YES, I CHANCE FOR  PARKS MASTER PLAN FEELING IT  EARLY YES YES BECAUSE I THINK  THAT'S DOABLE RIGHT. YEAH. I  MEAN YES FOR THAT THANK YOU  FOR THE SHOW THAT. AND YOU  TALK ABOUT WE'RE IN JULY. SO  WRITE IT WOULD BE THIS MONTH  SO FOR THE JOINT WORKSHOP FOR  BUDGET THAT ALL RIGHT I MEAN,  YES.  >> WHEN THE STAFF CAN COME  BACK WITH THAT KIND FOCUS ON  IT. YOU KNOW GIVE US A FEEL  REALISTIC.  ♪ >> CERTAINLY WANT TO TELL YOU  WHAT FUNDING SOURCES MIGHT  ASKED TO PLAN GOING TO ABLE TO  TELL YOU WHAT THAT COST IS  GOING TO BE OR  ♪ AN ESTIMATE. I THINK THE  >> FORCE FOR DISCUSSION FOR  WORKSHOP THAT'S IT  >> I THINK OPTIONS ONLY  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  >> CURIOUS  >> OF ALL IF THE CENSUS THAT  ONE ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL TO HAVE ANOTHER  >> CAN'T GO FORWARD WITHOUT  HOW THIS POTENTIALLY TO RIGHT  THAT WAS ONLY ONE I HAD A NOTE  ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE.  >> GOING TO CLOSE THIS ONE OUT  AND MOVE AND TAKE A BREAK  BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT YES  TRISH. GREAT. YEAH  >> IT'S GET BETTER AND BETTER  EACH TIME THEY DO THEY REALLY  THE JOB US. ALL RIGHT TO 5  MINUTES ABOUT OKAY, SO WE'LL  JUST A FIVE-MINUTE COMING THAT  AT THAT 1040 TO I HAVE THAT  BACK IT IS 1043.  >> MOVING ON TO.  >> ITEM 3 GENERAL BUSINESS 24  DASH 0, 5, 7, 0, ANY BETTER  THIS IS YOUR ITEM. THANK YOU  MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS A  DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION.  DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DIRECTION  REGARDING OPTIONS RECOGNITION  PROGRAM TO OUR INDIVIDUALS  ENTER IS RELATIONS ON  DESIGNATED CITY TO PAY IT HAVE  A PRESENTATION BY OUR  ASSISTANT BUT RESPECT THIS  TRISHA PRISONER.  >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS  TRICIA WAS HERE TO TALK ABOUT  THAT THEY HAVE PROGRAMS  PROPOSED. AS WE GO THROUGH  THIS THERE ARE A LOT OF  OPTIONS IF YOU RECALL THIS  CAME UP NUMBER THERE WAS SOME  CONSIDERATION ABOUT DIFFERENT  WAYS THIS PROGRAM COULD BE  DEVELOPED THERE ARE PROGRAMS  OUT THERE. IT WILL GO THROUGH  THAT IN THIS CONVERSATION,  WHAT I'M LOOKING TO DO IS GO  THROUGH THE A COMEBACK WORDS  AND MAKE THE DECISIONS JUST SO  THAT WE HAVE OVERVIEW OF ALL  THE DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE  MADE. AND THEN GO BACKWARDS  AND THIS INFORMATION WAS ALSO  PROVIDED TO POLICE DEPARTMENTS  FIRE RESCUE AND MEMBERS OF THE  VETERANS ADVISORY BOARD  VETERANS REPRESENTATIVES JUST  SO THAT WE COULD GET INPUT  FROM BOTH PEOPLE ON THIS  PROGRAM. SO THERE ARE EXISTING  PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT THE  CITY CAN JUST UTILIZE THESE  ARE TRADEMARKS OR SOME OF THEM  ARE NATIONAL PROGRAMS HERE THE  2 MOST COMMON THROWS THIS IS  VERY SPECIFIC THOUGH THIS  PROGRAM IS FOR PAST AND  PRESENT MILITARY. AND THE  BANNER PRICE VARIES GREATLY BY  QUANTITIES SO IF WE DECIDED TO  UTILIZE THIS PROGRAM AND WE  ONLY HAD ONE BANNER THAT WE  WANTED WE COULD BE LOOKING  AROUND $200 FOR THAT ONE  THERE. IF WE WAITED TO BATCH  THAT MAYBE WE'VE GOT 20 OF  THEM THAT PRICE GOES DOWN. A  SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE JUST A  PENNY OF HAVE AND HERE'S OUR  SET THEY WILL LOOK A CERTAIN  WAY THEY WILL ALL SAY A  CERTAIN THING.  >> THERE IS NO NORTH PORT ON  THERE IS VERY SET PROGRAM TO  MODEL ALL THE OTHER ONES THAT  ARE AROUND THE NATION. ONE  NICE THING ABOUT THIS IS IT IS  AS A NATIONAL REGISTRY, SO IF  YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THIS AND  THIS IS YOUR THING THAT YOU GO  TO YOU YOU'LL SEE NORTH PORT'S  LIST OF THESE BANNERS WITH  ANDERS VIRGINIA OR WHEREVER  ELSE THEY MAY BE. ALSO THERE'S  A VETTING THAT WHEN THIS  APPLICATION GOES IN THEIR  STAFF THERE THAT VET THROUGH  ALL THE MILITARY RECORDS TO  MAKE SURE WHATEVER IS BEING  PUT ON THAT BANNER IS  COMPLETELY CHECKED OUT.  THERE'S ALSO A MILITARY  TRIBUTE AND A PROGRAM IT'S A  VERY SIMILAR TO THE HOMETOWN  HEROES. HOWEVER, IT ALSO  ALLOWS. PEOPLE THAT ARE  THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO  FUTURE SERVICE TO BE PART OF  THIS AGAIN THIS IS JUST  MILITARY MEMBERS. THIS UP FOR  THIS MANNER THAT WE HAVE THAT  WE TYPICALLY PUT UP THAT SIZE  OF 30 BY 60. IT'S A  ♪ $139 HOWEVER. THEY'RE PRETTY  CLOSE TESTED ABOUT SOME OF THE  ADDITIONAL FEES THAT MAY  APPLY. SO WE ARE READY TO  ORDER WE REALLY HAVE  DISCLOSURE WITH THE COSTS  WOULD WHAT EXACTLY THAT WOULD  LOOK LIKE THEY DO ALSO HAVE A  VETTING PROCESS HOWEVER TO NOT  AS RIGOROUS AS THE HOMETOWN  HEREOS VETTING PROCESSES. SO  THOSE ARE 2 EXAMPLES OR BOTH  VERY MILITARY SPECIFIC WHEN WE  DID RESEARCH WE DIDN'T REALLY  FIND A PROGRAM THAT WAS.  CUSTOMIZABLE TO NORTH PORT  THAT WAS PRE-PACKAGED OUT  THERE SO IF THESE 2 OPTIONS  DON'T MEET WITH THE COMMISSION  IS LOOKING FOR. DIAZ SECOND OR  THE 3RD OPTION WOULD BE TO  THIS EFFECT PROGRAM. SO IF  THAT IS THE OPTION THAT WE GO  HERE SOME IDEAS FOR PROGRAM  NAMES, LOCAL LEGENDS COMMUNITY  CHAMPIONS. STARS NORTH PORT  STARS HOMEGROWN HEROES FOR  OTHER. IF WE GO THIS WAY WE  WILL BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION  AS TO WHAT A NAME FOR THE  PROGRAM WITH E. YOU KNOW THERE  ARE SPECIFIC IF WE DEVELOP OUR  OWN PROGRAM IS WHAT QUALIFY  SOMEONE TO BE HONORED. DOES  THE COUNTRY NEED TO LIVE  IN NORTH PORT LIVES IN NORTH  PORT FOR ONE YEAR GREATER, OR  IS THERE A TIME FRAME. YEAH,  HENRY WORKS OR WORKED IN NORTH  PORT WHEN YOU'RE A GREATER. OR  IS THAT THE HONOREES FAMILY  MEMBERS LIVE HERE SO IT'S A  MOM OR DAD THAT'S REALLY PROUD  OF THEIR SO DAUGHTER THAT'S  SERVING OR THAT A DOCTOR OR  THAT'S. IN MASSE ARE WHATEVER  THAT IS THAT THEY WOULD BE  ABLE TO HONOR THEIR LOVED ONE.  AGAIN ADDITIONAL  QUALIFICATIONS IS WHAT KIND OF  STANDING WITH THIS PERSON NEED  TO HAVE. SO THE FIRST LESSON  WAS RESIDENCY, THIS IS WOULD  BE PAST OR PRESENT MILITARY  PERSONNEL. NORTH PORT POLICE  DEPARTMENT. NORTH PORT FIRE  RESCUE. PUBLIC WORKS.  >> DOCTORS OR NURSES THAT HAVE  BEEN SIGNIFICANT IN THE AREA.  TEACHERS EDUCATION  ADMINISTRATORS MAY BE A  PRINCIPAL. LOCAL LEADERS, US  OR SOMEONE IN THE NONPROFIT  PROBLEM THAT WE WOULD WANT TO  HAVE THIS PROGRAM, THE OPEN  DOORS. REGIONALLY THIS HAS  BEEN LIES THAT IT WOULD GO ON  THE STREET LIGHTS. THEY HAVE  THE THAT WOULD HOLD BANNERS.  RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 28 OF THOSE  THAT ARE EQUIPPED WITH THE  BRACKETS THIS IS THE NUMBERS  OF THEM YOU'LL SEE A MAP OF  LOCATIONS AND ONE 2ND. WE CAN  ADD MORE IF SO DESIRED WITH  THE DEMAND WAS SO GREAT. THERE  IS A COST ADDED ADDITIONAL  BRACKETS DEPENDING ON HOW MANY  WE BUY IT ONCE. BUT THIS IS A  GOOD STARTING POINT IS TO LET  YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH  WHAT WE COULD CURRENTLY  HANDLE. WE ENVISION THAT STAFF  WOULD DETERMINE THE BEST PLACE  FOR THIS DISPLAY. SO IF WE  RECEIVED 3 AND THERE'S 3  OPENINGS IN ONE NORTH SOME ME  GO THERE SO WE KIND OF GET A  NICE GROUPING TOGETHER. BUT IT  WOULD JUST DEPEND UPON HOW  THESE APPLICATIONS CAME IN.  THE BANNER WE ANTICIPATE WOULD  BE DISPLAY FOR ONE YEAR UNLESS  WE HEAR OTHERWISE. FOLLOWING  DISPLAYED A BANNER TYPICALLY  HAS RETURNED TO THE SPONSOR.  TYPICALLY THEY'RE THE ONES  THAT ARE PURCHASING IT. SO  IT'S REALLY THERE. MATERIAL  WHEN IT WHEN IT COMES BACK  DOWN. AND THEN ALSO LOOKING  FOR DIRECTION AS TO YOU KNOW  IF THESE WERE PUT UP FOR  YEARWOOD WE BRING THAT BACK I  WANT TO PUT UP HOLIDAY  DECORATIONS WOULD WE LEAVE  THEM UP DURING HOLIDAYS WITH  THEY JUST NEVER BE UP DURING A  HOLIDAY LOOKING FOR INPUT.  HERE IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE  EXISTING LOCATIONS THAT WE  MENTIONED SO WE HAVE  NORTH SUMTER IN SOUTH SUMTER  YOUR TOLEDO BLADE IN SOUTH  TOLEDO BLADE. AND THERE'S THE  QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE WOULD  MANAGE THE FEES. GET JUST  ENOUGH TO COVER THE COST OF  THE BANNER. WE COULD COVER  THAT FEE TO OVER THE BANNER  AND MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL COST  THAT WOULD GO WITH MANAGING  THE PROGRAM. WE COULD SELECT A  NONPROFIT TO RUN A PROGRAM  THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF  THAT IN SMALL COMMUNITIES  THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.  THERE'S ALSO THE QUESTION AS  TO WHETHER OR NOT THE FEE FOR  THIS WOULD BE WAIVED FOR GOLD  STAR FAMILIES, THOSE ARE  FAMILY MEMBERS THAT LOST A  LOVED ONE. THE MILITARY. SO  THAT WAS PRETTY BIG OVERVIEW  OF A LOT OF QUESTIONS. WE  START FROM THE BEGINNING WE  CAN KIND OF CHOOSE OUR OWN  ADVENTURE THROUGH THIS. SO THE  FIRST QUESTION IS WHETHER OR  NOT WE WOULD LIKE NORTH PART  OF A NORTH PORT SPECIFIC  PROGRAM OR TO UTILIZE PROGRAMS  THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN RULED  OUT COPYRIGHTED TRADEMARKED  SUCH AS HOMETOWN HEROES OR THE  MILITARY TRIBUTE. IN OUR  PROGRAM. VICE WILL.  >> AS YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED  LAST TIME THIS SUBJECT WAS  BROUGHT UP.  >> I AND HONORING OUR MILITARY  HEROES AND FIRST RESPONDERS I  THINK YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T SAY  YOU CAN'T DO ENOUGH TO SUPPORT  THEM. AND HONOR THEM FOR ALL  THEY DO. CONVERSATION. MORE A  LITTLE INTO IS WHAT WE REALLY  WANT TO HEAR IS THIS WHAT WE  WANT TO DO JUST SIMPLY HONOR  AND NOT SIMPLY BUT JUST HONOR  OUR MILITARY AND OUR FIRST  RESPONDERS KEEP IT NARROWLY  FOCUSED OR DO WE WANT TO LOOK  AT CREATING COMMUNITY  CHAMPIONS WHICH I KIND OF LIKE  THAT NAME.  >> PEOPLE  >> ARE CHAMPIONS IN OUR CITY  WHETHER THEY BE FROM ANY WALK  OF LIFE OR OLD BUT SOMEONE WHO  MAKES A CONTRIBUTION. IN SUM  PROFOUND WAY AND THE QUESTION  THEN YOU KNOW HOW DO AND  WHAT'S TO STANDING. TO ME THE  IDEA OF ABOUT. CUSTOMIZED  COMMUNITY PROGRAM BECAUSE I  THINK IT'S MORE ALL  ENCOMPASSING. THE OTHER  PROGRAMS TO EXIST ON OUR  MILITARY WERE GOING PART  DEDICATED TO OUR MILITARY SO I  YOU WHAT. MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS THINK ABOUT THIS  AND WHAT THEY WANT DO WITH IT  I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE IN  HONORING COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS  PEOPLE LIKE WE DO YOU KNOW DO  THE RIGHT THING FOR THE KIDS  LIKE THE POLICE TO THAT'S JUST  SUCH A WONDERFUL WONDERFUL  THING TO EXPAND THAT ON THE  COMMUNITY LARGE PEOPLE WHO  MAKE A CONTRIBUTION AND AND  AND THEN YOU REALLY GET INTO  THE ISSUES OF WAS WAS GOING TO  SIGN STUFF. YOU KNOW AND AND  HOW'S IT GOING TO BE FAIR AND  AND ARE WE. CREATING KNOWS  WHAT KIND OF CONTROVERSY  WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AS TO HOW  PEOPLE GET THAT BEYOND THAT  AND I MEAN I JUST MY MIND'S  GOING IN A MILLION DIRECTIONS  IS STILL THE POTENTIAL.  DOWNSIDES PEOPLE WILL FALL  INTO POWERS THIS PROGRAM AND  AND CREATE BRAIN DAMAGE FOR  WHAT PROBABLY UP YOUR  ATTENTION TO BEGIN WITH SO I  DO WE GO WITH I REALLY DO BUT  I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF WATER  APPROACH RATHER THAN A MORE  NARROW APPROACH.  >> GOLD ALL RIGHT I PUT YOU  DOWN TELLING YOU'RE OKAY. MAKE  >> THE INITIAL INTENT WAS TO  FOCUS ON THE MILITARY THAT'S  THE REASON THIS WAS BROUGHT  FORWARD. EASY PEASY OTHER  AGENCIES HAVE ALREADY DONE  SHOULD SAY HAVE ALREADY  STARTED THIS THEY THEY WORKED  OUT THE KINKS. THEY PREVENT  STOLEN VALOR.  >> AND THEY DID IT WAS ALL THE  YOU MEANT. AND THAT'S WHAT THE  WHOLE INTENTS AND PURPOSES WAS  UP THE THIS  >> AND  >> HESITANTLY AGREEING WITH MY  FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT YES  WE SHOULD INCLUDE THE FIRST  RESPONDERS AND THEN IT MORPHED  INTO TEACHERS AND NOW THAT  THIS PRESENTATION, IT'S A  LITTLE EARLY LEADERS AND  DOCTORS AND NURSES AND. IT'S  LOSING SIGHT OF IT. ORIGINAL  INTENT.  >> AND GETS.  >> TO USE VICE GET RAINED  EVERY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ALL  OF THE THINGS WOULD HAVE TO  ACCOMPANY THIS KIND OF A  PROGRAM IF YOU INCLUDED ALL  THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT HE'S  IN THIS PRESENTATION.  >> I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT  THOSE OTHER OCCUPATIONS ARE  NOT NEEDED OR NOT NECESSARY.  >> BUT.  >> I CAN AGREE TO STAY WITH  THE MILITARY. AND FIRST  RESPONDERS. BUT THE LEAST. THE  PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. IT  IS IS JUST THE MILITARY AND  USE ONE OF THE ENTITIES THAT  ALREADY DO THIS.  >> YOU START EVERYBODY YOU'RE  WATERING DOWN THE WHOLE WHOLE.  THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE I  MEAN.  >> WHO WOULD WANT TO SEE MY I  MEAN IT FOR REALITY I COULD DO  THAT BASED ON AND WHO TO VICE  MAYOR'S POINT. HOW MUCH TIME  AND STAFF TIME IS GOING TO BE  SPENT ON THIS KIND OF A  PROGRAM AND. THAT'S NOT WHAT  ITS PURPOSE WAS SO I AM GOING  BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE  OF THE MILITARY BECAUSE IT'S  EASY TO DO. IT'S ALREADY BEEN  DONE. WE BASICALLY TURN IT  OVER TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS  AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THE  INSTALLATION HAPPENS IF THAT'S  ARE THAT PART HAS TO BE WORKED  OUT. BUT I JUST. I DON'T WANT  TO BE THIS COM. ALI DID  PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN  WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE  STAFF AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO  MAKE SURE THAT THEIR VET IT  CORRECTLY BECAUSE THE LAST  THING I WANT IS STOLEN VALOR  TO BE UP THERE. AND MAKE SURE  THAT THERE'S NOT THIS OH MY  GOSH YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE  RECOGNIZING THAT PERSON AND  THAT PERSON IS IS EVIL  BECOMES. UNNECESSARY SO I'M  STICKING WITH THE MILITARY.  >> AND ONE POINT OF  CLARIFICATION FOR THE 2  PROGRAMS THAT WERE MENTIONED  PREVIOUSLY HOMETOWN HEROES AND  THE MILITARY TRIBUTE IN A  PROGRAM AND BOTH OF THOSE  CASES WE WOULD HAVE AN  AGREEMENT WITH THEM WE'D  ORDERED THE BANNER WE WOULD  INSTALL THOSE THANK YOU FOR  >> IS IT A GOOD FOR NOW YES  FOR THIS INJECT ALL  COMMISSIONER LIKE THANK YOU  AND CONCEPT, I LOVE THE IDEA I  THINK THERE ARE.  >> SO MANY CATEGORIES OF  PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY  DESERVING OF OUR RECOGNITION  AND THAT. AS I THINK ABOUT IT  THOUGH IN TERMS OF SOME OF  THE. PRACTICAL ISSUES THAT  COULD ARISE AND  IMPLEMENTATION.  >> WHEN YOU RECOGNIZE  INDIVIDUAL YOU'RE NOT  RECOGNIZE HIM OTHER  INDIVIDUALS. WE RUN THE RISK  OF THINGS DESCENDING INTO A  BEAUTY CONTEST. AND I DON'T  THINK ANYONE ONCE THAT OUR  POPULARITY CONTEST CONTEST. SO  JUST A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. I  I'D LIKE MENTION MCDOWELL'S  IDEA OF LIMITING IT TO BETTER  AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE  WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR  VETERANS AND WE USE OUR  VETERANS PARK AND IT'S THE  PLACE WE WOULD RECOGNIZE THOSE  INDIVIDUALS.  >> I LIKE THE BROADER HOMETOWN  HERO CONCEPT.  ♪ AND SO  ♪ SOMETHING LIKE. NO LOVES ITS  VETERANS.  >> AND RESCUE TEAM IT'S POLICE  TEACHERS, IT'S NONPROFIT  COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS.  >> I COULD REALLY GET BEHIND  RECOGNIZING A CATEGORY OF  CONTRIBUTOR. AND I'M BRIAN  STRONG HERE BLUE SKY. WE MIGHT  EVEN THINK ABOUT WHEN WE CAN  MAYBE TIE IT TO A PROCLAMATION  THAT'S GOING ON OR OR  SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD  LOVE TO RECOGNIZE CATEGORIES  OF CONTRIBUTORS AND AND KEEP  THAT BROADER AS ABOUT LINE  DOING SOMETHING MAKING  CONJUNCTION. I COULD GET  BEHIND. I'M JUST CONCERNED  ABOUT THE POPULARITY ASPECT OF  SIGNALING OUT SOMEONE FROM A  CATEGORY CONTRIBUTOR. WHEN ALL  OF SHOULD BE HONORED. BY THE  REST OF THE COMMUNITY. OKAY.  NEXT MINUTE YOU  >> YEAH, YEAH, IT IS.  >> I LIKE THE PRESENTATION YOU  GET SOME OTHER OPTIONS AND AND  I THINK YOU MENTIONED  COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS, THAT NOW  THAT I IT WAS ONE THAT WAS  >> I I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING  AGAIN WE HAVE THE CIRCLE OF  WATER THAT'S THAT'S COMING AND  I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD  JUST BE A NATURAL AREA FOR.  THEY THE VETERAN'S MILITARY  ASPECT OF IT THAT THAT WOULD  BE. DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY  FOR FOR THEM BECAUSE THAT IS  THEIR PLACE THERE ALREADY THAT  NOBODY ELSE. AND THEY'RE SO I  COULD SEE HOW I MIGHT THINKING  ALONG THE LINES OF.  >> HAVING 2 SEPARATE PROGRAMS,  ONE SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR  MILITARY VETERANS AND THAT  WOULD BE. THE AVENUE FOR THAT  WOULD BE THE CIRCLE OF HONOR  WHICH IS. TO BE IN THE MOST  APPROPRIATE PLACE DO THAT AND  THAT'S WHAT I MEANT NOT  VETERANS PARK AND THEN THE  OTHER ONE IS THE COMMUNITY  CHAMPIONS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE  PEOPLE THAT DO A LOT FOR THE  COMMUNITY THAT ARE NOT.  >> A TEACHER ANYMORE THEY'RE  NOT A NURSE OR WHATEVER, BUT  AND AGAIN I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU  WOULD FIGURE THAT OUT ON THE  ON A QUALIFIES FOR THAT AND  THAT'S WHAT I DO AGREE. WE  START TO GET INTO SOMETHING.  AREAS I LIKE THE IDEA THAT  WHOEVER IS GOING TO APPLY THEY  HAVE PAY FOR THE COST THAT YOU  KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HAVE  NOMINATE SOMEBODY. YOU'RE  GOING TO FOR THE ARE ARE WRAPS  FOR THE TRAFFIC.  >> CONTROL BOXES YOU KNOW I  WANT GOING TO PAY YOU KNOW,  I'M GOOD WITH THAT.  >> AND THEN ARE THE OTHER PART  THE COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS WOULD  WOULD INCLUDE.  >> TEACHERS NURSES, IF PEOPLE  WANT TO DO OR JUST IN GENERAL,  I AGAIN HOW YOU WOULD DECIDE  ONE OF THOSE.  >> CHECKPOINTS FOR SOMEONE TO  BE A COMMUNITY CHAMPION THAT  IS NOT CONNECTED CERTAIN  PROFESSION.  >> BUT I I WOULD AND AGREEMENT  TO HAVING THESE BATTERS IN THE  CIRCLE OF HONOR. BECAUSE I  THINK THAT'S WHAT WE MOST  APPRECIATED AND THAT WILL BE  RESERVED FOR FOR THEM  SPECIFICALLY AND IT WOULD BE A  PLACE OF HONOR OUR CIRCLE OF  HONOR. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M  COMING. AND I ALWAYS LOOK AT  ALL PLACE IS YES NORTH SUMTER.  SOUTH SUMTER NEESE SAID THE  SIZE IS ONE OF THE SIZE THE  BATTERS AGAIN 30 BY 60 IN JUST  QUICK POINT.  >> THE CURRENT DESIGN FOR  CIRCLE OF HONOR DOES NOT HAVE.  HOLES THAT WAY HOLD THESE  BANNER SO IF THE DIRECTION WAS  TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM SAID IT  MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT STYLE OR  SOMETHING RIGHT ALTERNATIVE  RIGHT.  >> I'M SURE THAT IS THEY POP  RIGHT INTO THE PLAN BECAUSE  IT'S WE HAVEN'T EVEN BROKEN  GROUND ON DEADLY. NOT THAT I  KNOW. AND WHAT WAS THE BUDGET  SO THAT IS IT A MILLION  DOLLARS IS IT OVER THAT. AND  IF AND HOW PARKS REC DIRECTOR.  >> I DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET IN  FRONT OF ME, BUT AS FAR AS THE  PLANNED WE ARE AT. PERCENT  PLAN DOES NOT.  >> I BELIEVE THEY'RE IN FINAL  REVIEW. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO  HIT. REX AND SORT OF POLL TO  BE USED AS PART OF THAT ARK.  IT WOULD REQUIRE A REDESIGN.  COULD JUST PUT THEM IN AFTER  THE FACT. WE CAN DO IT AFTER  THE FACT THAT CABLE SUMMER  PROJECT FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING.  IT'S INTERESTING. ALL RIGHT  THANKS FOR THE COMMISSIONER  YEAH.  >> CIRCLE OF HONOR US TO HONOR  ALL. VETERANS MILITARY  PERSONNEL. AND IF I REMEMBER  CORRECTLY IT'S GOING TO  INCLUDE FIRST RESPONDERS. BY  HAVING INDIVIDUAL LITTLE  BANNERS. BUT IN MY OPINION  THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE  OVERALL CONCEPT CIRCLE OF  HONOR YOU ALREADY ANSWERED MY  QUESTION I DIDN'T THINK THAT  WE'RE GOING TO BE LIGHTS  THERE. SO THAT JUST BRINGS A  WHOLE DIFFERENT CHANGES  EVERYTHING DRAMATICALLY. BUT  THE CIRCLE OF HONOR IS NOT TO  JUST SINGLE OUT YOU KNOW 8 OR  12. MILITARY PERSONNEL FOR  YEAR, THE CIRCLE OF HONOR IS  TO ENCOMPASS EVERYBODY THAT  HAD SERVED AND I WOULD NEVER  WANT TO HAVE JUST WANT YOU  KNOW ONE TO 12 OR WHATEVER THE  MAGIC NUMBER IS TO BE HONORED  TO MAKE IT APPEAR THAT THEY'RE  HONORED MORE THEN THOSE THAT  HAVE SERVED. OUR COUNTRY AND  THAT THAT JUST IS NOT  SOMETHING I COULD EVER GET  BEHIND. WE'RE LOSING SIGHT OF  WHAT THE INITIAL CONCEPT WAS  AND I. I'M SEEING THIS JUST  MORPHING INTO SOMETHING THAT  IS JUST UNSUSTAINABLE. VERY  HEAVY LABOR INTENSIVE.  >> IT GETS. I I SAID MY  >> DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE  GOING TO DO WITH THIS.  >> PRETTY SURE AVERAGE.  >> YES, MY ARE. YEAH I WAS  LOOK AT THAT BACK TO WHAT  WE'RE LOOKING AT AND YOU'RE  READY DO WITH HOMETOWN HEROES  OR MILITARY TRIBUTE. BUT I GET  ALSO. THOUGHT ABOUT THE FIRST  RESPONDERS. WE CAN STILL HONOR  FIRST RESPONDERS IN OUR  COMMUNITY THAT HAVE SERVED IN  THE MILITARY PRIOR TO THEIR  SERVICE HERE, ESPECIALLY IF  THEY STAND OUT HERE. YOU KNOW  I WOULD STILL KEEP THE  MILITARY. THIS IS PARKS ARE  OUT TRISH UP. WHAT'S THE  LONGEVITY OF ONE OF THOSE  THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT IN THE  WEATHER 24 7. I KNOW SPONSOR'S  GOING TO BE PAID FOR AND THEN  THEY GET THAT BUT WHAT IF IT'S  ALL TRACK DO TO LEATHER  INCLEMENT WEATHER. YOU KNOW  HOW IS THAT NOT A LOCK GOING  BACK TO THE SPONSOR.  >> THEY DO HI THICKNESS FINAL  AND HAVE STATED THAT IT WOULD  TYPICALLY WITHSTAND UP TO 2  YEARS NOW OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAD  A MAJOR STORM EVENT. THAT  WOULD DEFINITELY. IMPLICATE  HER ON JEOPARDY. BUT THAT'S  WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE YEAR  THIS FINAL SHOULD LAST 2 YEARS  SHOULD BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND  THE FOR 2 YEARS BASED WHAT  WE'RE HEARING SO WE BROUGHT IT  DOWN TO ONE YEAR. IT SHOULD A  VIABLE AND ARE HAND BACK TO  THE SPONSOR.  >> OKAY I UNDERSTAND THAT WE  WE WENT TO THE FLAGS STOP MOST  OF CLOTH THAT CAUGHT THEM.  THEY BE TEARING VERY VERY  QUICKLY OUT THE WEATHER. MAYBE  JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT  IT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A  BANNER IS MAYBE THE SPONSOR  WOULD HAVE A SMALL PLAQUE AS  WELL BEING DOES A AS THE  HOMETOWN HERO OR WHATNOT.  THAT'S THE BETTER IS A LITTLE  GO AFTER CATERED AT LEAST HAVE  A NICE LITTLE PLATTE TO GO  WITH THAT. YOU KNOW  REMEMBERING OF THAT JUST A  SUGGESTION. I WOULD ALSO BE IN  FAVOR OF THE GOLD STAR FAMILY  RECEIVING. THEY'RE FOR YOU  FREEWAY BUT BE ON ONE OF MY  MAIN QUESTIONS IS ON HOW IS  THIS GOING TO WORK WHEN THE  SPONSOR GOES AND NOMINATES  PERSON FOR THIS IS NOT  APPROVED BY A PANEL. PUT  SOMEBODY UP THERE AND OK THIS  GUY'S OR THIS LADY'S A GREAT  AND IT GOES RIGHT UP ON THE  POLE ON HOW HOW DO WE LOOK AT  THAT PROVE THAT TO WEAR THE  CITY IS WHOA.  >> COMMISSIONER I THINK THE  FIRST QUESTION IS ARE WE  DEVELOPING OUR OWN PROGRAM ARE  UTILIZING ONE OF THE 2  PROGRAMS THAT HAVE ALREADY  BEEN. MUCH NATIONWIDE. IF IT  WERE ONE OF THOSE 2 PROGRAMS.  WE WOULD INFORMATION. HOMETOWN  HERO SPECIFICALLY DOES A  RIGOROUS BACKGROUND CHECK AND  MILITARY TRIBUTE BAND PEOPLE  STILL A SOLID BACKGROUND CHECK  TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS  INFORMATION IS ACCURATE THE  APPLICATION WOULD STILL OF  COURSE COME THROUGH THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT FIRST WITH THE  INTENTION THAT STAFF WOULD  EVALUATE ANY OTHER NUANCES  THAT WE AND TO ENSURE THAT YOU  KNOW THIS PERSON HAS PORT OR  WHATEVER THE TIDE IN NORTH  PORT IS THAT WE DETERMINE.  REALLY THE FIRST STEP IN  DETERMINING THOSE NUANCES IS  EVALUATING WHICH ONE OF THOSE  ARE DECIDING WHICH ONE OF THE  PROGRAMS WE'RE GOING TO GO  WITH ARE WE GOING WITH ONE OF  THE 2 THAT HAVE MUCH  NATIONALLY ARE WE DEVELOPING  OUR OWN.  >> WELL, I'VE GOT THAT SO THE  ONES THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING  OUT THERE THEY WOULD DO THE  VETTING PROCESS AND EVERYTHING  WOULD BE APPROVED BY THEM DOWN  TO US AND WE WOULD HAVE A  CEREMONY OR SOME TO PUT THAT  BANNER UP FOR THE CITIZEN AND  THE SPONSOR OR WHO WOULD DO  THAT. JUST GO UP  AUTOMATICALLY.  >> SO SIMILAR TO HOW NEXT OUR  CREATION HANDLES SOME OF THEIR  TRIBUTE PROGRAM ITEMS.  >> THE.  >> WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THE  COMMUNICATION FROM THE SPONSOR  TOO. THE CITY OF NORTH PORT WE  GO THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS  WITH THE OTHER ORGANIZATION.  WE GET THE BANNER BACK WE  WOULD. BUT THE BANNER PROBABLY  USE SOCIAL MEDIA AND OF COURSE  ALERT TO SPONSOR THAT IT'S  GOING UP. SO THAT WE CAN HONOR  THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE  ARE AWARE OF IT AND THAT THEY  WERE AWARE THAT THAT. ON OUR  RECOGNITION AND WAS ALREADY  PLACED.  >> OK AND ONE LAST YOU WOULD  ASK ABOUT CHRISTMAS  DECORATIONS AND THIS AT OTHER  IF THEY WERE ON THE LIGHT  POLES. YOU KNOW ON SOME  PARENTS OUT FOR STUFF LIKE  THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO SET A  TIME LIMIT OF ONE YEAR. THEN  THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED FOR  THAT ONE YEAR HE LEFT IT IS A  CHRISTMAS PEOPLE THAT THE NEXT  ONE THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE  MY. MY THOUGHTS ON IT BECAUSE.  OKAY CHRISTMASES HERE BUT NOW  WE'RE GOING ANNOUNCE HE WAS A  HERO THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK  FOR YOU KNOW LOT SITS UP THAT  IT SPENDS ITS TIME THAT WE  MOVE ON. SO THAT'S JUST MY  THANK YOU MAYOR.  >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. VICE  MAYOR. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  SAID SOMETHING THAT REALLY  JUST RESONATED WITH ME WHEN WE  WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CIRCLE  OF PARK AND THAT YOU KNOW SHE  WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE US  HONORING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS  WHEN THAT PARK REALLY  DEDICATED TO ALL WHICH MADE ME  THINK. ABOUT THE WHOLE CONCEPT  AND YOU KNOW EVERYONE WHO  SERVES WHETHER THEY BE IN THE  MILITARY OR FIRST RESPONDERS  OR FOR ANY OF THESE OTHER  CATEGORIES THAT WE THINK ABOUT  EXPANDING THIS TOO. THEY'RE  HEROES AND. TO ATTEMPT TO.  FOCUS ON. WE SPECIFICALLY  WE'RE GOING TO HONOR DOES IN  MY OPINION MAY BE A DISSERVICE  TO ALL THE OTHERS AND I JUST  DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS WHOLE  CONCEPT AT ALL. I MEAN I'M ALL  FOR HONORING THOSE WHO SERVE  IN A VARIETY OF CATEGORIES BUT  TO START. FIGURING OUT EVEN  WITH EXISTING PROGRAMS OUT  THERE THAT WE'RE GOING HONOR  SOME SELECT INDIVIDUALS BASED  ON THE CRITERIA EITHER THAT WE  DETERMINE WHERE THAT SOME  NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.  DETERMINES I THINK AT THE  SERVICE ALL THOSE OTHER PEOPLE  WHO TODAY AND FOR WHATEVER  REASON MIGHT NOT GET SINGLED  OUT I'M I'M NOT COMFORTABLE  WITH THIS WHOLE CONCEPT FOR  FOR LIKE. AND THEN SAME  REASONS BECAUSE I WANT AND I  JUST DON'T WANT HONOR SELECT  PEOPLE I JUST DON'T SEE HOW  YOU PICK AND CHOOSE I JUST DO.  >> AND I KNOW THOSE COUPLE OF  PROGRAMS EXIST.  ♪ ♪ YOU KNOW ABOUT AND I'M NOT  SURE I SUPPORT HOW THEY  ESTABLISHED THE CRITERIA AND  PEOPLE IN OUR CITY UNDERSTAND  THAT THESE ARE I THINK AND  THAT MAY BE MORE HARM THAN  GOOD. THAT'S JUST MY $0.2  >> OKAY TAKE THAT TO SENSE  FELT. YEAH.  >> I I WHAT YOU'RE SAYING VICE  MAYOR BECAUSE AS I'M LISTENING  TO EACH OF YOU TALKING LIKE I  JUST DON'T WANT TO DO THE  WHOLE THING AT ALL IN ON THE  ONE THAT BROUGHT IT AND YOU  KNOW THE REASON WHY I DON'T  WANT TO DO THE WHOLE THING AT  ALL IS BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED  TO BE FOR THE MILITARY.  >> AND THAT WAS IT AND TO HAVE  7 ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES SHAPE  OR FORM TRYING TO DISPARAGE  THOSE OTHER CATEGORIES BUT THE  IS A CATCH LOT. IT COULD BE  ANYBODY I COULD PUT MY DO  ABOUT THAT. IT JUST DIMINISHES  THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE WHOLE  THING AND FOR THAT REASON I  JUST SAY SCRAP I DON'T WANT TO  DO IT ALL IF NOT GOING TO  FOCUS ON OUR MILITARY AND  THEIR SACRIFICES THAT THEY  MADE NOT ONLY 2 HOUR ARCED  CITY BUT TO COUNTRY THEY  SHOULDN'T BE DONE IT OFF I  LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE  REST OF THE CONVERSATION.  >> NO  >> YEAH, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT  OF THIS IT.  >> WE LIKE I SAID YOU SAID NOW  IT'S CIRCLE. CIRCLE OF HONOR  IS OFF THE TABLE BUT IF THAT  CAN BE LIMITED TO YES THOSE  WHO SERVE IN THE MILITARY WE  HAD A SPECIFIC AREA FOR THEM  BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING  EVERYWHERE. CONSIDERING JUST  THE MILITARY HOMETOWN HEROES  WHEREAS THERE ARE OTHER  PEOPLE. THEY'RE NOT IN THAT  SAME CATEGORY WHICH IS WHY  WE'RE DOING THE CIRCLE OF  HONOR THAT JUST FOR MILITARY  VETERANS. I WOULD BE  SUPPORTIVE OF IT IF WE COULD.  >> EXPAND ON THAT AND HAVE  COMMUNITY COURSE BEING A I.  >> I'M I GRAVITATE TOWARDS I  HAVE TO SAY.  >> AND IT DOESN'T COME WITHOUT  A PRICE TO ME THERE WE DO  UNFORTUNATELY HAVE SCHOOL  SHOOTINGS AND NOW WE FIRST  BROUGHT THIS UP AND 23, I  LOOKED UP THE STATS IN 2023.  THERE WERE 53 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS  WITH 27 PEOPLE THAT I MEAN  WHEN I AS A TEACHER I DIDN'T  EXPECT TO GO TO WORK AND BE  COUNTED. WHEN THE THE CODE RED  CAME THROUGH AND HIDING  PUTTING YOUR KIDS HAVE OUR  STUDENTS IN THE CLOSETS THAT  THE THING WAS JUST LIKE  SURREAL SO. GET OFF OF BUT I  WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS IF WE  COULD FIND A WAY TO  INCORPORATE. JUST THE MILITARY  AND THE VETERANS SOMEHOW IN  THAT CIRCLE OF HONOR AREA. BUT  JUST TO MAKE IT THE EXCLUSIVE  FOR THAT CALL IT HOME TOWN  HEROES. COULDN'T. SUPPORT THAT  MUCH. COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU MAYOR, I WILL  JUST SORT OF SUMMARIZE IN  CLOSING.  >> COULD GET BEHIND. I'M  SUPPORTING CATEGORY. HERO.  >> NOT WHAT VETERANS KNOW  LOVES FIREFIGHTERS CETERA,  CETERA.  >> BUT THEY ARE ALL DESERVING  OF OUR RECOGNITION AND  APPRECIATION.  >> WE SURE GAVE HAD NO  DIRECTION  >> I THINK WE DID GET  >> COMMISSIONER OUT MAKE A  CONSENSUS OKAY. MY CONSENSUS  TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR  EFFORTS AND TO SCRAP WHOLE  INITIATIVE.  >> ALL RIGHT THAT'S THE  COMMISSIONER DOWNS COMING  YEAR, YES.  >> AND COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> I MEAN YES.  >> I MEAN YES AND AGAIN I  THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORT  AND THE RESEARCH I HOW  FRUSTRATING IT IS TO GO  THROUGH ALL THAT RESEARCH  DOESN'T AMOUNT BUT WE NEED TO  HAVE THAT INFORMATION SEE HOW  OTHER. PROGRAMS ARE BEING RUN  AND ALSO WHAT LOOKS LIKE FOR  US TO HAVE OUR OWN UNIQUE  PROGRAMS LIKE THANK YOU FOR  THAT. VICE MAYOR.  >> FORTUNATE, COMMISSIONER  AVERAGE.  >> DID YOU HEAR THE CONSENSUS  WHAT IT WAS.  >> YES, BUT CAN YOU HEAR ME.  YEAH NOW KNOW CAUSE.  >> BECAUSE I TRIED BUT ON A  COUPLE SPEAKERS EARLIER JUST A  DIFFERENT TYPE AND ROLL BEFORE  I GET MY YES OR NO, AND IT  STILL STAYS WITH THE MILITARY,  BUT HERE'S JUST SOMETHING TO  THINK ABOUT FOR HOMETOWN  HEROES. WHAT WE USED THE  INDIVIDUALS IN OUR TOWN WHICH  ARE NORTH PORT CITY OF PORT  THAT ARE ACTIVELY DEPLOYED AT  THIS TIME. OVERSEAS IN THE  MILITARY, AND THEY COULD BE  THE CURRENT HOMETOWN HERO  BECAUSE CURRENTLY SERVING AND  DEFENDING OUR COUNTRY AS IT IS  NOW RATHER THAN PAST FUTURE,  OR WHATEVER YOU'RE STILL  HONORING THE MILITARY, BUT  YOU'RE PUTTING A BANNER UP  SAYING PERSON IS OVERSEAS.  FLIGHT NURSE SHE'S FIGHTING  FOR OUR COUNTRIES. LET'S SAY A  PRAYER. I I DIDN'T KNOW ON  SCRAPPING IT COMPLETELY I MEAN  I THINK THERE'S OPTIONS OUT  THERE. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  COMMISSIONER I APPRECIATE YOUR  VALENTINE EFFORTS TO KEEP THIS  ALIVE. UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE  OF TOXIC WHICH IS I DON'T  REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE  ACRONYM IS A LOT OF THE  DEPLOYED MILITARIES THAT ARE  STATIONED OVERSEAS OR IN WAR.  THEY CANNOT HAVE. THAT KIND OF  SPECIFIC RECOGNITION BECAUSE  IT MAY ENDANGER THEM OR THEIR  FAMILIES SO FOR THAT REASON I  WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF  CALLING THEM OUT I KNOW WHEN  MY SON WAS DEPLOYED OVERSEAS  OR EVEN MY BROTHERS WHEN THEY  WERE OVERSEAS. I WAS VERY  CAREFUL WITH WHO I SHARE THAT  INFORMATION WITH IF AT ALL  BECAUSE ABOUT SICK. WAS  >> YOUR VOTE FOR CONSENSUS.  YES TO SCRAP KNOW NOT TO  SCRAP. COMMISSIONER IMAGE.  >> I REALLY DON'T WANT TO  SCRAP THAT, BUT I WILL I WILL  SCRAP IT IN FAVOR OF BRINGING  SOMETHING ELSE BACK. THAT WE  MAY BE ABLE TO LOOK AT  FURTHER.  >> ALL RIGHT, BUT THE WAY IT'S  BEEN PRESENTED TODAY, THE  CONSENSUS WAS TO SCRAP IT AS  IT'S BEEN PRESENTED SO YOU'RE  YES FOR DOING THAT CORRECT.  >> YEAH, I'LL GO WITH THE WILL  OF THE BOARD.  >> SO YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS AND  AGAIN THANK YOU AGAIN ALL YOUR  WORK. THANK YOU VERY THANK YOU  VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT DO WE  HAVE ANY. TAKING PUBLIC  COMMENT BEFORE THAT WE HAVE  PUBLIC COMMENT NO ALWAYS  FORGET THAT MY TEACHING CAREER  DO IN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT,  NO ALL RIGHT ANYTHING ELSE FOR  NOT IT 1121 IN NIGER AND THIS  MEETING THAT.