##VIDEO ID:ZModtMduCoo## MEETING 2 BOYER ROLL I HAVE A  COMMISSIONER AND RICH VICE  MAYOR STOVES MYSELF MAYOR  WHITE COMMISSIONER LANGDON  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WE HAVE  ENDURE THE CITY ATTORNEY GO  AND WE HAVE CITY MANAGER  FLETCHER WE ALSO HAVE CHIEF  TITUS.  >> THAT THEY THEY I WANT TO  RECOGNIZE INTERCEPT SARASOTA  COUNTY COMMISSIONER ALAN MAIL  BUT TO SAY YEAH. AND.  >> FOR OUR PLEDGE OF BALL ON  RECENT GRADUATE OF ARMY WITH  SUPPORT UNIVERSITY. CHENEY TO  LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.  >> WASN'T AS TO THE UNITED  STATES OF AMERICA AND SANDS  ONE NATION UNDER GOD,  INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND  JUSTICE FOR ALL.  >> I THANK  >> MOVING ON TO I WANT PROVE  UL OF AGENDA. MAKE A MOTION TO  APPROVE THE AGENDA AS  PRESENTED WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  TO APPROVE AGENDA AS PRESENTED  AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF  THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LET'S  VOTE ON THAT. AND THAT PASSES  5 TO 0. THAT PART 2 WE PUBLIC  COMMENT. AND I'M SORRY THAT I  RECOGNIZE YOU CITY CLERK  ANNOUNCED AS I I DON'T I THINK  FOR SOME LISTEN  >> I THINK I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE  YOU CITY CLERK FAST.  >> BUT YOU'RE HERE COMMENT  MOVING ON TO ITEM 3  ANNOUNCEMENTS TAKE IT AWAY.  >> FALLEN BOARD INCEASE OUR  OUR ADVISORY BOARD AUDITOR  SELECTION COMMITTEE CHARTER  REVIEW ADVISORY BOARD CITIZENS  TAX OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD  POLICE OFFICERS PENSION TRUST  FUND BOARD OF TRUSTEES PARKS  AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD  PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY  BOARD VETERANS PARK ADVISORY  COMMITTEE ZONING BOARD OF  APPEALS HISTORIC AND CULTURAL  ADVISORY BOARD SARASOTA COUNTY  ADVISORY BOARDS ARE. BICYCLE  PEDESTRIAN TRIAL ADVISORY  COMMITTEES CITIZEN ADVISORY  COMMITTEE CITIZENS OVERSIGHT  COMMITTEE SCHOOL SAYING THE  PLANNING AND PARKS ADVISORY  AND RECREATION COUNCIL ANYONE  LIKE MORE INFORMATION PLEASE  SEE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.  THANK ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU  ITEM FOR WHICH IS THE CONSENT  AGENDA CITY MANAGER HAVE ANY  ITEMS BEEN DO WE HAVE ANY  PUBLIC COMMENT.  >> I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION  MAKE GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO  APPROVE ITEMS 7.  >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEMS  IN THE CONSENT AGENDA BY VICE  MAYOR STOKES AND THAT WAS  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER AND  RICH IF THERE'S NOTHING  FURTHER LET'S VOTE ON THAT.  >> AND THAT PASSES 5 TO  >> THANKS FOR COMING  >> GUYS JUST A WELL WE NOW  HAVE A THE TOLD JUST LIKE I  THAT I.  >> I MAY ITEM A SECTION 5  PUBLIC HEARINGS. RESOLUTIONS A  2024 DASHBOARD 64 CITY CLERK  COULD BE READ THIS BY TITLE  ONLY RESOLUTION NUMBER 20  FLORIDA ARE DASH 60 FOR A  RESOLUTION OF THE CITY  IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA TONIGHT  IN THE CITY STATING JOINT  MEETING WITH THE SARASOTA  COUNTY COMMISSION TO RECEIVE  DISCUSS AN ACTIVE MISSION JUST  RATING RECITALS PROVIDING FOR  SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN  EFFECTIVE DATE OK AND CITY  CLERK, THIS IS YOUR GUESS THIS  RESOLUTION IS MISSION TO  ATTEND THE JANUARY 17TH 2025  ON OCCASION SOURCES. ALRIGHT  OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS,  VICE MAYOR.  >> YEAH, I'M JUST WONDERING DO  WE HAVE A LIST. WE HAVE A LIST  YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LISTEN  YOU'VE NOT TALKED ABOUT THE  LIST.  >> YOU PROVE THE MEETING  PERSON AND YOU WILL TALK ABOUT  IN NOVEMBER. THEY SAID YOU  KNOW FROM A LETTER OUT LAST  YEAR DATED OCTOBER 8TH PLAYING  WITH A MIGHT BE A WEEK OR SO  BEHIND A MILL. A GREAT AGENDA  ITEM FOR YOU IN THE MIX TO ON  WELL IF NOT AT THE VERY 26  TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO  TALK ABOUT THANK YOU  >> YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. TO  HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.  >> ALL RIGHT SOME CLOSING THIS  PORTION THE PUBLIC WITH  PROMOTION MAKE HAT I MOVE TO  RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH R  DASH 64 AS PRESENTED ALL RIGHT  WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO ADOPT  RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH R  DASH 64 AS PRESENTED AND THAT  WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  AND RICH IF THERE'S NOTHING  ELSE.  >> LET'S AND THEN PASSES 5 TO  0.  >> THEY WILL BE MOVING ON TO  ITEM B.  >> RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH  R DASH 63. THIS IS BECAUSE I  DO DISHES CITY CLERK.  >> TAKE IT AWAY RESOLUTION  NUMBER 2024 DASH R DASH 63 A  RESOLUTION OF THE CITY  COMMISSION OF THE CITY  IN NORTH PORT FLORIDA VACATING  A PORTION OF THE STREET TREE  AND LANDSCAPE EASEMENT LOT 29  GRAND PLACE SUBDIVISION FOR  FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR  RECORDING PROVIDED THE COMPLEX  BUT IF THE SEVERABILITY  PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE  EVERYONE WISHING TO PROVIDE  TESTIMONY PLEASE STAND RAISE  YOUR RIGHT HAND. WE SWEAR OR  AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY  YOU'RE ABOUT TO STRAIGHT BACK  THE BEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE  TALKING ABOUT. OKAY WE'LL GO  DOWN OR PARTE COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON A  MADAM MAYOR, NONE FOR ME VICE  INFORMATION COMMISSIONER  AVERAGE. I HAVE OK. SO MOVE TO  PRESENTATIONS FIRST BY THE  APPLICANT.  >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS  RICHARD ROGERS. THE DEVELOPER  IN CONTRACTOR AT GRAND PARK  PLAYING GRAND PLACE AT ONE  PARK. I BUILT A HOME LOT 29  THAT IS WITHIN THE SETBACK HAS  STIPULATED.  >> THE DPP AND WELL IN PART  BECAUSE 10 FEET. BUT IT JUST  SO HAPPENS TO BE THE 12 FOOT  CITY OF NORTH PORT LANDSCAPE  EASEMENT IT SENT BY 2 FEET.  THE HOUSE IS SUBSTANTIALLY  COMPLETE IS GOING THROUGH ITS  FINAL INSPECTIONS AT THIS  TIME. PUBLIC WORKS AND  EVERYBODY HAS LOOKED AT IT.  APPLICATION DID SHOW THAT THE  HOUSE WAS GOING TO BE IN THE  SETBACK. AND IT WAS APPROVED  IT WAS BUILT OUT WHY. I AM  RESPECTIVELY FOR FOR A  VACATION OF THE 2 FEET. SO I  CAN PROCEED. THANK YOU.  >> BUT WILL HEAR FROM CITY  STAFF.  GOOD EVENING, DAVID BROWN  PLAYER, ONE, NO SERVICES AND I  HAVE  ♪ BEEN SWARM. EVENING OR TALK  ABOUT 1, 8, 0, 3, 5 HOMERUN  DRIVE. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A  VACATION OF PLAN, A STREET  TREE. AND SHE'S A PORTION OF A  PLAN A STREET TREE  LANDSCAPING. THIS IS BEING  DONE TO PETITION NUMBER VA SEE  THERE'S 2, 4, 1, 0, 4, THE  RESOLUTION NUMBER 2, 0, 2, 4,  R DASH 6, 3, APPLICANT, SAM  ROGERS PROPERTY OWNERS GRAND  PLACE LLC AND THEY'RE  REQUESTING TO TAKE A PORTION  OF THE FUND 15 FOOT. STREET  TREE AND LANDSCAPING EASEMENT  TO ALLOW FOR EXISTING  SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE TERM  ME. LOCATION AS A PARCEL ID OF  0, 8, 0, 9 DASH 0, 3, 0, 0, 2,  9, APPLICANT'S REQUEST PORTION  OF THE PLANET 15 FOOT STREET  TREE AND LANDSCAPING EASEMENT  TO OFFER THE EXISTING SINGLE  RESIDENTS TO REMAIN WHICH IS  SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE. HE'S  BEEN A DEDICATED CITY PORT AND  ALSO DEDICATED TO THE  HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. A  DEVELOPER PROVIDED A LETTER OF  APPROVAL ON BEHALF OF THE  HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS THE  ASSOCIATION HAS NOT BEEN  ESTABLISHED. THE PLANNING AND  ZONING ADVISORY BOARD VOTED  UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT  APPROVAL OF THIS PETITION. THE  PROPERTY SIZES CURRENT 10,523  SQUARE FEET. THE FOLLOWING  AGENCIES HAVE REVIEWED THEIR  REQUEST TO VACATE THE PORTION  OF TO 15 FOOT STREET TREE AND  LANDSCAPING EVEN WRITTEN  RESPONSE HAVE GRANTED THEIR  APPROVAL. NO ISSUES OR  CONCERNS WERE RAISED REGARDING  AND THERE'S A FOOTNOTE ON THAT  THAT THAT IS NOT RESPOND  WITHIN 10 DAYS. IT'S IT SHOWS  THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY  CONCERNS. AND I DID WANT TO  POINT OUT ONE ON THE SLIDE AND  I ALSO HAVE A RESOURCE  PROTECTION PART LOOK AT IT AS  WELL. NOT STANDARD ON THESE I  WANT TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT  AS WELL THE STREET THE  VACATION OF EASEMENT WAS  REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STAFF  OR CONFORMANCE WITH FLORIDA  STATUTES CHAPTER ONE 77  VACATIONS AND WAS REVIEWED AND  APPROVED BY STAFF OR  CONFORMANCE WITH ULDC CHAPTER,  53 ZONING REGULATIONS. THE  PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMEND  APPROVAL OF PETITION NUMBER V  A C DASH 2, 4, DASH 1, 0, 4,  THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2, 0, 2,  4 DASH R DASH THANK YOU. THANK  YOU.  >> CITY CLERK DO WE HAVE  AGGRIEVED PARTIES, OKAY.  >> THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE  TO.  >> REBUTTAL APPLICANT TO HAVE  A REBUTTAL IF NOT YOU STILL  HAVE TO COME UP AND STAY THAT  YOU DON'T HAVE REBUTTAL TO  WHAT I BUT THEY'RE  >> I DO NOT HAVE REBUTTAL.  >> ALL RIGHT. THANK CITY  STAFF. I DID NOT OK AND WE  HAVE NO AGGRIEVED PARTIES.  >> MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT TO  WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON  THAT. ALL RIGHT.  >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE  COMMISSION.  >> VICE MAYOR.  >> YEAH, A QUICK QUESTION FOR  STAFF  >> DON'T KNOW WHY THIS  HAPPENED TO BEGIN WITH. BUT  ARE WE LOOKING AT MORE  PROPERTIES ENGRAM PLACE WITH  THE SAME PROBLEM.  WE KNOW.  >> THAT I'M NOT SURE OF. IT. I  MEAN STATES HAPPENED SO WHAT  BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ONES.  >> THAT OKAY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> THE APPLICANT SAID ITS 2  FEET IN THE EASEMENT YOUR  SAYING IT'S 15 FEET.  >> NO THE EASEMENT IS 15 FEET.  SO IF YOU LOOK THE BACKGROUND  I REALLY HAVE ON THE SCREEN.  SHOWING YOU BUT IT'S ACTUALLY  IN ABOUT.  >> BELIEVE BECAUSE THE 15 FOOT  I BELIEVE THE HOUSES AND HALF  THAT WAS NOT THIS MORE THAN 2  FEET, BUT IT'S IT'S. MORE THAN  10 NOT. MORE THAN 5 FEET.  >> SINCE IT'S BEEN STATED THAT  IT'S BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY  COMPLETED.  >> HOW DID IT GET THIS FAR.  THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES THAT  HAVE TO HAPPEN. I MEAN THAT  THE CITY'S APPROVING THE  BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT.  >> SO HOW DID IT.  >> I THIS GET HOW HOW DOES  THIS. I UNDERSTAND MISTAKES  HAPPEN. THIS IS IN THE  EASEMENT I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT  THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT.  PERMITTING.  >> OREGON'S ASSISTANT BELMONT  SERVICES DIRECTOR I HAVE  SWORN. THIS SITE PLAN WAS  APPROVED BY OUR ZONING STAFF  FORM A ZONING STAFF MEMBER.  >> THE EASEMENT AND THE  INDICATOR OF THE EASEMENT ON  THE SURVEYOR.  >> WAS CLEARLY OVERLOOKED BY  THIS PLANS FOR A THE SETBACK  IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE WITH  THE ATP REQUIREMENTS, HOWEVER,  THE 15TH STREET TREE EASEMENT  WAS OVERLOOKED BY FORM OF STOP  PERSON. WE 2 NEW SOUND AND  PLANS REVIEWERS THEY HAVE  TRAINED AND THEY HAVE BEEN  CAUTIONED TO PAY ATTENTION TO  THESE KIND OF DETAIL SO THAT  WE CAN LAMINATE FREQUENT  MISTAKES PRESENTED TO YOU OR  EASEMENT VACATIONS FOR ERRORS  AND PLATE NUMBER.  >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT  BECAUSE I DO KNOW WE'RE ALL  HUMAN AND STUFF. IS THERE ONLY  ONE PERSON THAT APPROVE SOME  OR DOES SOMEBODY APPROVAL AND  THEN SOMEBODY HIGHER UP KIND  OF GIVE IT A CURSORY REVIEW  JUST TO MAKE SURE I'S ARE  DOTTED AND T'S CROSSED OR IS  IT SOLELY ONE PERSON.  >> ZONING PLAN PLANS REVIEWERS  REVIEW AND APPROVE FOR  COMPLIANCE WITH THE ULDC.  >> JUST FOR THE RECORD I WILL  BE SEEKING A REFUND TO THE  APPLICANT FOR THIS THIS SHOULD  HAVE BEEN CAUGHT. AND IT'S NOT  THEIR FAULT AND THEY HAD TO  PAY OUT THIS MONEY. JUST  THROWING IT OUT KEEP IT IN THE  BACK MINE. OKAY.  >> SO NOW WE'RE MOVING TO THE  LAST PHASE WHICH IS CLOSING  ARGUMENT CITY CITY STAFF YOU  OH IT NOT OKAY, APPLICANT, DO  YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING  ARGUMENTS.  >> DON'T. NO ARRESTS HAVE  CLOSING ARGUMENT.  >> I DO HAVE A RIGOROUS  PRECONSTRUCTION PROCESS THAT  WE GO THROUGH ON EVERY HOUSE.  I'M QUITE HONESTLY. I. I DON'T  HAVE AND EXCUSE THAT WHAT WAS  IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY  SHOWN. ON THE SITE PLAN. THE  EASEMENT AND TYPICALLY WE KNOW  THAT WE DO NOT BUILDING THE  EASEMENTS.  >> AND WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE  TRYING TO DO BETTER.  >> SO WE'RE FINISHED WITH THAT  ARSENAL, CLOSING THIS PORTION  OUT. A PUBLIC COMMENT.  QUESTIONED PUBLIC HEARING AND  MOOKIE PROMOTION. KNOW  >> I MOVE TO RESOLUTION NUMBER  2, 0, 2, 4 DASH OR 63 PERCENT.  >> I COMMITMENT. WE HAVE A  MOTION MADE VICE MAYOR STEPS  TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER  2024 DASH R 63 AS PRESENTED  AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER ELRICH.  >> SURE OUT YES LIKE TO MAKE  AN AMENDMENT. AND WHILE I'M  GRATEFUL THAT THE APPLICANT  ADMITTED THAT THERE'S SOME.  >> THINGS THAT THEY COULD DO A  LITTLE BIT BETTER, IT'S ALSO  STAFFS ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY  TO MAKE SURE I'S ARE DOTTED  AND T'S ARE CROSSED. I'D LIKE  TO MAKE A AMENDMENT. 2 WELL.  TO REFUND TO 50% OF THE  VACATION OF EASEMENT COSTS TO  THE APPLICANT.  >> A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION,  OKAY, WE AN AMENDMENT  PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL TO REFUND 50% OF THE.  WHAT DID YOU MAKE HAITIAN OF  THINGS TO MAKE TO THE  APPLICANT 10. AND THAT WAS  SECOND AND SECONDED BY VICE  MAYOR TAKE IT AWAY. YOU  >> MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS WHAT  IS THE CHARGE FOR VACATION  EASEMENT.  >> SO THE GRAND TOTAL FIRST A  YEAR ASK A IS $825. I  >> JUST A FOLLOW-UP YOU KNOW  WELL I SECOND THAT THIS FOR  DISCUSSION. AND CITY CERTAINLY  HAS AN OBLIGATION. SO DOESN'T  THIS CASE DEVELOPER WE ARE  TALKING HERE INDIVIDUAL  HOMEOWNER WE'RE TALKING A  DEVELOPER SHOULD KNOW BETTER I  SEE NO REASON WHY THE CITY  INCURRED COSTS AND. I BELIEVE  THIS SHOULD A.  >> THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED THE  50% YEAH, JUST FOR CLARITY.  OKAY ANYTHING ELSE.  >> SOME WONDERED ABOUT ON THAT  AMENDMENT.  >> FIRST.  AND THAT PASSES 4 TO  ONE WITH VICE MAYOR DISSENTING  REASONS STATED, YES, MA'AM  OKAY, SO THAT'S NO VOTE ON THE  MOTION WHICH IS TO APPROVE THE  BAIT. IF THEY  ♪ ♪ KLASSEN. AND THAT PASSES 5 TO  0 OH CAT. MOVING ON 6 GENERAL  BUSINESS SEE 24 DASH 1, 3, 7,  CITY MANAGER, THIS IS YOUR  ITEM.  >> 2 MEN THIS IS ITEM 21 1, 3,  7, 8, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  ACTION REGARDING REQUESTS TO  PURCHASE CITY OF NORTH THE  PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2400.  COVER REPORTED ACROSS ID  NUMBER YOU KNOW 606-211-0080.  ACCORDING TO OUR CITY  COMMISSION OVER 3 DASH 1, 2,  3, THIS POLL GOING WITH  PROPERTY CITY MANAGER JUST A  CITY COMMISSION IN THE REQUEST  TO PURCHASE COMMERCIAL  PROPERTY. OUR DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC WORKS AS WE SEE IT IF  ANYTHING IT'S GOT POTENTIAL  PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY  MENTIONED FIRST LETTER OF  INTENT WOULD BE SEIZED  SEPTEMBER 17 FROM CONTINUE  FUNDING. LLC THE FIRST CALL TO  OFFICE OFFER OF $800,000. THE  SECOND NO I WASN'T TOO DON'T  SEPTEMBER 26. I DO, I WILL SAY  WITH A FIRST PRIZE OF A 126  700 ALL THE PARCEL INDUSTRIAL  LIGHT IT OR HOW PROXIMITY. 2.1  1 ACRES. SO IMPORTANT BUT THE  POLICY NUMBER 20, WE'VE READ  AS YOU WANT IT. THE PUBLIC  WORKS IS SEEKING DIRECTION  FROM THE CITY COMMISSION ON  POTENTIAL NEGOTIATIONS  REGARDING FRONT.  >> ALL RIGHT.  COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> YOU KNOW REVIEWED LETTERS  OF INTENT. HAVE GOING BACK TO.  >> 2 ACRES COMMERCIAL PROPERTY  PRIME REAL ESTATE MAIN  CORRIDOR ROADWAY INTO THE  CITY. $800,000 SEEMED  EXTREMELY LOW OF AN OFFER. I'M  CURIOUS IS THERE GOING TO BE  AN APPRAISAL OF THIS PROPERTY  DONE BY A THIRD-PARTY  INDEPENDENT FOR THE CITY. WAS  A AND DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC  WORKS.  >> THE COMMISSION POLICY  STATES THAT WE NEED TO COME  AND TALK TO THE COMMISSION  FIRST BEFORE TAKING ANY ACTION  OR LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM  THE COMMISSION AS TO WHAT  STEPS YOU'D LIKE US TO TAKE  THE POLICY ALSO STATES THAT WE  WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET AN  APPRAISAL LOOKING FOR THAT  DIRECTION.  >> I ALSO NOTICE THAT THIS  PROPERTY YOU AND I GET IT THAT  THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S  WEBSITE IS NOT ALWAYS  ACCURATE. BUT IT'S NOT LISTED  AS I LW ON THAT PROPERTY. IT'S  LISTED AS CAN CD. ONCE WE HAVE  THIS NEW ZONING COMING TO  PLAY. IT'S LISTED IS ACTIVITY  CENTER FOR. SO THAT TO ME ALSO  INCREASES THE VALUE OF THE  PROPERTY. SO WHEN WE IF IF WE  DO DO THE APPRAISAL WE HAVE TO  MAKE SURE THAT THE ZONING IS  ACCURATE BECAUSE ZONING WILL  DICTATE. SHOOTS FLUCTUATION IN  THAT PRICE.  >> WE WILL WORK WITH THEIR  FRIENDS ARE AND MAKE SURE THAT  THEY HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION  ALSO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE  THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.  SECOND A WIFE FROM ONE OF THE  2 COMPANIES WAS HANDED OUT TO  TODAY WE RECEIVED YESTERDAY,  SO IT'S NOT IN THE BACKUP  MATERIAL ATTACHED LEGISTAR BUT  IT WAS HARD COPY PROVIDED TO  YOU. JUST WASN'T MENTIONED IN  THE BEGINNING SO JUST WANTED  TO MAKE THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER  ONE THAT'S OUT.  >> THE MOTHER  >> COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT I  HAVE IS BY POLICY. IS NOT TO  HAVE THE CITY PAY THE CLOSING  COSTS AND I NOTICE THAT BOTH  ALLIES HAVE THE CITY PAYING  CLOSING COSTS THE POLICY SAYS  NOW THAT THE CITY DOES NOT PAY  >> THE OPEN OTHER THAT HAS  NEGOTIATED THAT WOULD RIGHT  WHERE ARE CHECKS BEACH PUBLIC  WORKS DIRECTOR WE'RE LOOKING  FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO START ALL  OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.  >> AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S GOING  TO GO SHE ATIONS BUT THE  POLICY SAYS FORESEE THE CITY  WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR  BUYERS CLOSING PROCESS OD SNOW  ASSOCIATED WITH REAL ESTATE  TRANSACTION THAT'S ONE OF OUR  NEGOTIATION PORTS RIGHT THAT'S  ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE  CITY WILL  >> FROM THEM. OKAY WE'RE THAT  WE'RE ON  >> IF GOING TO BE APPROVING  SOMETHING I WANT TO MAKE SURE  THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT  GOING TO BE PAYING THAT THAT'S  REAL PROBLEM THAT FOR IT.  >> THANK YOU. THE OTHER THING  IS POLICY WHICH WAS APPROVED  IN APRIL OF 23.  >> IT SAYS THAT ON ANNUAL  BASIS, THE CITY MANAGER WILL  BE ESTABLISHING A LIST OF  THESE REAL PROPERTY IS OWNED  BY THE CITY IN DISTRICTS AND  EVERYBODY AND PRESENTED TO THE  COMMISSION WE HAVE NOT HAD  THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND I'VE  BEEN ASKING ABOUT IT EACH TIME  WE GET ONE OF THESE KIND OF  PROPERTIES IN PLACE AND I'M  JUST CURIOUS DO YOU THINK THAT  MIGHT LET PUBLIC SERVICES  BECAUSE THAT'S A COOPERATIVE  EFFORT.  >> DEVELOPMENT SERVICES  DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES  HAS BEEN ACTIVELY REVIEWING E  CITY PROPERTY INVENTORY LIST  OF OVER A 1000 TO DETERMINE.  IF THERE IS ANY FUTURE PUBLIC  PURPOSE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES  DUE TO A JASON SEE 2 EXISTING  FACILITIES.  >> PLANNED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT  PROJECTS, ET CETERA AND  IDENTIFYING THOSE PROPERTIES  THAT MAY BE A SORT.  >> SUITABLE TO THE SURPLUS OR  FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE'RE  GETTING CLOSE TO FINALIZING  OUR REVIEW OF LIST UPON WHICH  WE'RE GOING TO SHARE OUR SOLID  WASTE DISTRICT ARE READING  GRANITE DISTRICT OR FIRE  DISTRICT. PARKS AND RECREATION  AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE  FOR REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT WE  HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED PROPERTIES  OR SURPLUS THAT THEY FEEL.  >> HAVE A FUTURE PUBLIC  PURPOSE. SO ONCE THAT'S  FINALIZED WILL BE BRINGING  BACK TO YOU ALL I AM HOPEFUL  THAT WE WILL HAVE ALL OF  PROCESS DONE BY THE END OF  YEAR AGAIN WE DO HAVE THE  CHALLENGE OF A SO DISTRICTS  THAT WILL IMPACT LIST SO A  SECOND LOOK GOING TO BE  REQUIRED AFTER MONDAY.  >> SO THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ALL  RIGHT EVERYBODY ELSE. ALL  RIGHT PUBLIC COMMENT.  >> GOOD EVENING, THERE WHITE  OF ICE BEARS THOSE AND CITY  COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS TY  SAID CENTRAL FUND. COMMERCIAL  REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FUND  LOCATED IN ORLANDO FLORIDA.  FIRST I'D LIKE TO MISS A LOT  OF GRAY AND MISSED LAST TRAIN  US WITHOUT THEIR HELP AND  THEIR EFFORTS THERE. ADVOCATES  OF YOUR CITY. AT VARIOUS TRADE  SHOWS I WOULDN'T BE HERE AND I  THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB  EXPLAINING THE BENEFITS AND  GROWTH POTENTIAL GOING FORWARD  THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY.  BEEN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS  FOR 20 YEARS FIRST AS A REAL  ESTATE ATTORNEY AND THEN AS A  DEVELOPER AND INVESTOR AND FOR  THE LAST 11 YEARS I'VE  DEVELOPED OPERATED OPERATED  BOUGHT AND SOLD A COMMERCIAL  REAL ESTATE PROPERTIES WE  MANAGE A PORTFOLIO SHOPPING  CENTERS AND REAL PROPERTIES.  CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS  INCLUDE A 150,000 SQUARE FOOT  SHOPPING CENTER AND WOULD  LAURA DE AND A 100 UNIT BUILD  TO RENT RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.  JUST OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE IS  WILDWOOD FLORIDA. ALSO  RECENTLY RETIRED FROM THE  FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD. MY 21  YEARS OF SERVICE. TO FLORIDA,  THE UNITED STATES I GRADUATED  FROM US ARMY RANGER SCHOOL.  BUT THE YEAR IN AFGHANISTAN  CONDUCTING COUNTERINSURGENCY  OPERATIONS IN 2005. MOST  IMPORTANTLY I CALLED  FLORIDIANS AFTER ALL THE MAJOR  HURRICANES SINCE 2004 THE  NETWORK NUMEROUS TIMES AS CITY  AND COUNTY EMERGENCY OPERATION  CENTERS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY  AND WELL-BEING FLORIDIANS AND  THE AFTERMATH OF HURRICANES.  AND THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS I  CARRY WITH ME THAT SAME  MINDSET, A SERVICE TO  FLORIDIANS. AND THAT'S WHY I  HAVEN'T SPECIFIED UNATTENDED  YOUTH IN MY A LOT. IF YOU LET  ME PURCHASED A 2.1 1 ACRES  LOCATED ON PARKWAY I'D LIKE TO  BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS NOT  ONLY IN LINE WITH THE VISION  OF THE CITY OF PORT. ALSO  SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS  OF NORTH PORT REALLY NEED. I  CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT INPUT  FROM YOU. AND DIRECTION FROM  YOU JUST LIKE AFTER HURRICANE.  WHEN WHEN WE THE NATIONAL  GUARD. GO AND COORDINATE WITH  LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. WE OUR  ASSISTANCE WE TELL YOU WHAT  ASSETS WE HAVE, BUT WE RELY ON  YOU TO TELL US WHERE THOSE  EFFORTS ARE BEST SIR AND THE  SAME IN THIS SCENARIO, ANOTHER  PROPERTY ZONE, I'LL WR  INDUSTRIAL LIGHT WAREHOUSE,  BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT  SONY CAN'T BE CHANGED. A  QUARTER LIKE COMMERCE PARKWAY  WHERE LOCATION OF THIS  SPECIFIC PROPERTY MAYBE  INDUSTRIAL LIGHT WAREHOUSES  THAT THE BEST USE MAYBE A IT  SOMETHING ELSE MAYBE IT'S A  DAY CARE CENTER. THE  RESTAURANT OR SOME SOME OTHER  USE FOR THIS SPACE. AND I'M  NOT THE EXPERT ON WHAT NORTH  PORT NEEDS. BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD  BY CITY OFFICIALS THAT YOU  ALWAYS REALLY NEED RETAIL CARE  AND WE FRIENDLY ACTIVITY  CENTERS.  >> WELL, MAYBE BEST OF US.  ♪ >> BUT THAT THAT SHOULD TIMES  HIGH TIDE. THAT'S THAT'S YOUR  TIME GOES BY REALLY FAST OKAY  I BUT LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING  WITH YOU ALL TOGETHER WE CAN  ACHIEVE  ♪ THANK VERY THANK YOU.  >> ALL RIGHT ANYTHING ELSE  THAT YES WE HAVE ONE MORE  IN-PERSON AND THEN WE ALSO  HAVE SOMEBODY WHO HIS NAME IS  JEFF AND HE IS ON VIRTUAL.  HE'S PART OF THAT'S SOMETHING  THEY CAN BETTER WHAT  RELATIONSHIP HE HAS TO THIS  BUT HE DID WANT TO SPEAK A  CASE OUT DO YOU THINK IT'S  GOOD TO DO IT DURING PUBLIC  COMMENT TO  >> WE DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS.  >> IT IS JEFF.  >> O  >> Y O B.  >> THE GUY FROM THE 9.26.  >> ALSO OKAY SO. RIGHT I  >> AND  >> IT WAS AND IS JUST I THAT  FAR PROPERTY LISTED FOR SALE.  FIRST QUESTION. IT'S NOT I  HEAR ABOUT YOU ASK PRAISING  PRICE. A GREAT TOO, BUT THAT  SEEMED WILL BE AND GET LIKE  MORE. BUT CALL UP A TUNE IN TO  OTHER. VESTAS FOR EXAMPLE IF A  PRESIDENT CANNOT WHILE LONGER.  AND THE POLICE LIST THAT AND  LET THE OTHER. IN THE OFFER  MAY PRESENT SOMETHING BECAUSE  THEY ONLY SEE ONLY ONE BUYER  AND. THAT'S WHAT TRIED TO TELL  YOU WILL BE GRATEFUL JUST.  PRESENTED TO PUBLIC IF YOU'D  SAID TO  >> YES, JEFF.  >> I LINGER.  >> HE'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE  OUT OF ALL RIGHT I HAD CRY.  >> FOR AND FOR AND IT'S JUST  YOU OF FROM IN TAMPA. AND WE  FOCUS ON THE BEAT THAT AND AND  I THINK THAT'S TOO LOW.  >> DEVELOPMENT PROBABLY AND  75% THE WAR FORESEEING. NO  COMMUTE.  >> BIG THAT STATES THAT WILL  COME SET OF THE BUSINESSES  SMALL BUSINESSES STEP WHAT  FORM.  >> MICHAEL POST YOU AND IT'S A  HI FEES AND WELL HOUSE AND  POTENTIAL. WE'RE GOING PEOPLE  IT'S GOING TO USE THIS MORE  BUSINESSES HOW THERE GOT BUT  THEY DON'T 2 MINUTES AND TO  WIN 10,000 SQUARE FEET. GOING  TO WANT I WILL PASS SCHOOLS  TOO. I 75. THEY RENT THEIR  4.45. I WASN'T GOING A YEAR.  AND MY BUSINESS HE'S GIVEN TO  SMALL BUSINESSES OPPORTUNITY.  2 INSTEAD. FLOYD I WAIVE MY  FRIENDS THEY WOULD OR JUST  THEY DON'T ITS AND AND THEN  STORED THERE ON THAT WITH THE  TOTALS AND STATES. BUT THEN  SO. BUSINESSES SAY THAT YOU  SEE GOERS STOPS THE HOMERS  WHAT YOU CAN SEE IT SORT THAT  THEY THOSE KIND OF SPACES THAT  THAT'S ABOUT SAID IS THAT  PROCESS AND I NOTICE THEY SAID  SOME OF THEM BOTHER OR MOST OF  THE DEVELOPMENT AND NO SPORTS  AND AND. AND MORE THAN HAPPY.  FOR PARKS ON THERE. MAN HOME  ARE DEVELOPMENTS YOU KNOW.  OKAY. THANK YOU. WAS FIRST  >> VIDEO PUBLIC COMMENT ON  WHAT DO WITH SOME PRETTY  INTENSE STUFF. WE I WAS NOT  AWARE WAS GOING TO PUBLIC  COMMENT. I THOUGHT IT WAS NOT  A PART OF THE DISCUSSION OKAY  I THINK TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT.  ALL RIGHT SO ANY OTHER PUBLIC  COMMENT. CITY OKAY. SO THERE'S  NOTHING COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  SORRY.  >> I FAILED TO ASK HAVE WE  LOOKED AT.  >> THE USE OF THIS PROPERTY. I  MEAN 2.1 ACRES I KNOW IT'S NOT  EXTREMELY LARGE BUT WE REALLY  NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE  IS USE FOR ANY OF THE CITY  DEPARTMENTS IN THE TODAY  POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE AND  I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A  CRYSTAL BALL AS TO WHAT FUTURE  NEEDS MIGHT BE YOU KNOW 20  YEARS FROM NOW.  >> BUT I CERTAINLY WOULD THINK  THAT IF THERE IS USE FOR CITY.  >> NEEDS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE  PART OF THE CONVERSATION IF  THIS IS SUPPOSED TO COME BACK.  >> SO WE DID ASK OTHER  DEPARTMENTS OF THE PARCEL  SEEMS FAR JUST 2 ACRES THAT'S  NOT ARGUE FOR A CITY  DEPARTMENT, IT'S ENOUGH  >> OUR FIRE STATIONS LIKE  BECAUSE I KNOW THAT NEXT DOOR  IS THE STORE IT NEXT. THE NEXT  PERSON OVER TO STORM WATER.  >> SO YOU KNOW I THOUGHT WELL  MAYBE USING THAT STORM WATER  AND A CITY BUILDING MIGHT BE A  LITTLE BIT MORE CONDUCIVE  BECAUSE OF IT IT'S LIKE COULD  BE JOINED, I DON'T KNOW. SO I  THOUGHT MAYBE IT MIGHT EXPAND  THE USE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE  TO HAVE THE STORM WATER IT'S  ALREADY LIKE RIGHT THERE SO  FOR THE CITY.  >> ALL RIGHT STORM OPEN TO  THAT. YES WATER FOR THE WHOLE  FOR THE PART. THAT SOME ARE  STARTING TO COUNT OR PARCEL OF  THE SIDES WHAT THEY HAVE TO  CAPTURE ON SITE. BUT WE DIDN'T  HAVE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE  TITANS FOR THAT. OKAY.  >> SO WITH THE PROMOTION  BOARD. DIRECTION HERE.  >> A GOOD MAN A MANDATE.  >> I MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT  CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH  STAFF TO INITIATE  NEGOTIATIONS. FOR PURCHASE  SALE OF NOT PUT COMMERCIAL  PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 2400  COMMERCE PARK. PARCEL NUMBER  0, 9, 6, 2, 1, 1, 0, 0, 8, 0,  >> SECOND FOR DISCUSSION ALL  RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE  BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON FOR  CITY MANAGER TO DIRECT CITY  MANAGER TO WORK WITH STAFF TO  INITIATE THE NEGOTIATIONS TO  BEGIN. THE PURCHASE OF PORT  COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT  2400 COMMERCE PARKWAY. AND  THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER MC DOWELL. LIKE  AND CORRECT MY OWN MOTION NOT  THE PURCHASE SALE, THE SALE,  I'M SORRY SALE. ALL RIGHT THE  SALE WAS RIGHT. WE GET THAT  CITY CLERK CHANGE OKAY, THANK  YOU. ATE THE OKAY. ALL RIGHT  COMMISSIONER WANT I JUST  REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT  >> PART THIS NEGOTIATION WON'T  HAPPEN UNTIL WE GET THE  APPRAISAL BACK.  >> CAN'T NEGOTIATE WITH THAT  THE APPRAISAL AND I JUST WANT  TO MAKE SURE CARD ISN'T BEFORE  THE HORSE AND ALL THAT KIND OF  STUFF BECAUSE I'M SURE WE HAVE  SOME YEAR SELLERS HERE AND AND  I'M SORRY YOUR BUYERS. I JUST  REALLY WANT TO PROTECT THE  PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE WE'RE  GETTING THE POSSIBLE CARE SO  THANK YOU CHANGE DOESN'T DO A  GREAT JOB. THANK MENTIONED I  JUST HAD 1 ONE QUESTION THIS  WAS NOT SOLICIT IT.  >> IT CAME CAME TO THE CITY IS  THAT CORRECT. YES, WE DON'T  THE LAST PARCELS FOR SALE  WHOSE INTERESTS, IT. WE DID  NOT SOME BUSINESS LOOKED OUT  AND SAW THAT IT WAS OWNED BY  THE CITY AND. CORRECT THEM  AND.  >> AS AS ONE OF THEM STATED A  PENNY IN AND. RECTOR. SERVICES  HAVE BEEN OUT PUSHING PORT  THAT MAKES PEOPLE LOOK TO SEE  WHAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT. OKAY.  >> ALL RIGHT SO.  >> THAT IS ARE WE HAVE A  MOTION AND WE DO HAVE A  SECOND. FOR THAT. TO NEGOTIATE  THE SALE MADAM MAYOR JUST FOR  CLARITY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  YOU WERE RECOMMENDING AN  AMENDMENT. SO THE MOTION.  >> NOT THE APPRAISAL IS A  REQUIREMENT OUR JUST WANT TO  MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE  APPRAISAL ARE WE GOING TO DO  BRINGS ALL BUT NEGOTIATIONS OR  SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE  I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR WHAT  WAS ON THE TABLE.  >> OKAY, RIGHT BACK TO THE  BIRTH JUST WANT TO READ THAT  MOTION BACK FOR  >> TO DEVELOP CITY MANAGER TO  WORK WITH STAFF TO INITIATE  NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING THE  SALE OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT  2400 COMMERCE PARKWAY NORTH  PORT FLORIDA PARCEL  IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 0, 9, 6,  2, 1, 1, 0, 0, 8, 0, OKAY, SO  THAT'S A MOTION  >> AND I PASS IS 5 TO 0 SO  WAIVE INTEREST TO SEE WHAT  COMES BACK. I'M MOVING ON TO.  ITEM WE HAVE HERE 24 DASH 1,  4,  >> YOU HOPING THE CITY PARKS  INTRODUCE HER OWN YEAH THAT'S  >> SO THIS IS MY 6 MONTH ABOUT  YOU ATION REVIEW IF YOU  REMEMBER WE'RE DOING THIS SO  THAT STARTING FROM NOVEMBER TO  NOVEMBER HAVING ANNUAL  EVALUATIONS SO REVIEW WILL  COVER MARCH 25TH 2024 THROUGH  OCTOBER 31ST 2024 AND  THEREAFTER ANNUAL REVIEW WILL  BE REQUIRED NO LATER NOVEMBER  1ST OF EACH YEAR. OKAY.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE LOOKING  COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.  >> COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL HAS JUST SEEMS LIKE  WE JUST DID DID.  >> CONTINUE TO DO A GREAT JOB.  THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT  YOU DO FOR THE AS I HAVE  ALREADY PUBLICLY STATED I  THINK YOU BLUE THAT HOLDS  EVERYTHING TOGETHER WITH THESE  CHARTER OFFICERS AND A I ENJOY  WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR  STAFF IMMENSELY THANK YOU. BUT  YOUR AVERAGE.  >> YOU KNOW SHE ONLY DOES  QUITE OFTEN SO SHE CAN HEAR  THE PRAYER I NOW YOU KNOW NOW.  YOU KNOW I ALL OF MY  EVALUATION MISSIONS SHEEN.  VERY GOOD ON EVERYTHING THAT  SHE DOES SHE RUNS A TIGHT SHIP  SHE KEEPS US IN THE LINE AND  WHAT A JOB THAT IS JUST ON A  PERSONAL NOTE FOR MYSELF SO  THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT  YOU DID. I MAKE A MOTION  WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.  >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY  COMMENTS. I JUST WANT TO SAY I  YOU'RE JUST UNBELIEVABLE CITY  CLERK AND ALSO RUNNING IN THE  ELECTIONS, 1 ONE OF TIME FOR  ELECTION THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE  CARE OF THAT WHOLE THING AS  IT'S AMAZING YOU SEND OUT  REMINDERS. IT'S WONDERFUL WE  MANAGE THAT REPORTS ARE DOING  WHAT I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S  SO I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH FOR  ALL YOU NEED RUN A TIGHT SHIP  AND I APPRECIATE THAT. ALL  RIGHT SO YOU'RE MUCH TO PUBLIC  OK. SO NOW FROM OCEAN.  >> AND A MOVE TO APPROVE A 5%  INCREASE FOR THE CITY CLERK  PASS BASED ON THEIR  PERFORMANCE ALL EVALUATE JEN.  AND THE WAY I CAME UP WITH  THAT PERCENTAGE IS TO KEEP  SERVE CURRENT WITH ALL THE  OTHER CITY CLERKS AROUND THE  AREA AND.  >> AGAIN SHE WILL HAVE ANOTHER  EVALUATION FOR YEAR-ON-YEAR.  >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THAT  WASN'T APPROVE A 5% INCREASE  FOR THE CITY HOUSE BASED ON  THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION AND  I SECOND SECONDED BY VICE  MAYOR STOKES. ANY FURTHER  DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL  >> WE GAVE HER A 5% INCREASE 6  MONTHS AGO. SO THAT'S LIKE A  10% INCREASE FOR THE YEAR.  JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL  ARE AWARE THAT. APPROVED A 15%  FOR CITY MANAGER. SO I.  EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING A 4%. ON  AVERAGE. SO I'M I'M JUST KIND  OF THROWN IT OUT THERE.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WET SNOW.  >> AND THAT PASSES 4 TO ONE  WITH COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  DISSENTING FOR REASONS STATED.  CITY CLERK I LOVE THE I THINK  YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. I I  CAN'T APPROVE A 10% INCREASE  OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.  AND I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND  THAT. AND NO HARD FEELINGS.  >> ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO ITEM  E 24 DASH 1, 5, 1, 1, CITY  CLERK, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF  THE SEPTEMBER 24TH  TWENTY-TWENTY FOR COMMISSION  REGULAR MEETING MINUTES  PERCENT TO COMMISSION TO HER  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL ONE  RECOMMENDATION UPON FURTHER  REVIEW THE MINUTES WERE  MODIFIED AND ATTACH TRIPLE.  >> DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER  QUESTIONS ARE.  >> COMMENTS ON THIS.  >> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ALL  RIGHT SOME OF PROMOTION OF  MAKING A HAT.  >> TO APPROVE THE 9/24/2024  MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED.  ♪ WITH DISTRICT AND CHANGES  >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY VICE MAYOR STILL TO  APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 24TH  2024 MEETING MINUTES AS  PRESENTED AND THAT WAS  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE  ♪ LET'S THOUGH. AND THAT PASSES  0, GOT TO FIND PUBLIC COMMENT.  ♪ ALL RIGHT.  ♪ GOING ON TO COMMISSION  COMMUNICATIONS. VICE MAYOR  >> DO OF ANYTHING THE ONE  THING I WOULD SAY FOR ANYBODY  WANTS TO SEE ME IT DON'T  SHOULD COME CITY GREEN ON  FRIDAY. HALLOWEEN.  >> I LIKE FOR LONG SEE OUT IT  BASICALLY. ISN'T SURE NOTHING.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. YEAH,  WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD AN  OPPORTUNITY TO TO THESE IT'S  REALLY IT'S TOUGH.  >> GET MY LIST IS GOING TO BE  A LITTLE BIT JUST SO YOU KNOW  FOR THE TRICK OR TREAT EVENT  THIS IS COMING FOR I AM GOING  TO BE DRESSED UP AS A SET  WATCH OUT.  >> COSTUMES GOT I WANT I  DIDN'T CHOOSE WHAT TO SAY  ♪ >> BASICALLY THIS IS  SEPTEMBERS IN  ♪ >> OCTOBER'S LIST DIFFERENT  >> FIRST I HOW THE COUPLE TOWN  HALLS. THEY WERE WELL ATTENDED  I ALSO HOSTED A NORTH PORT  GOVERNMENT NEW CLASS. WHY HAD  11 PEOPLE ATTENDING THAT CLASS  IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT IT  WAS REALLY COOL WATCHING THEM.  >> LEARN AND CONNECT THE DOTS  AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING  OF THE INNER WORKINGS OF LOCAL  GOVERNMENT AND I'VE ALWAYS  ENJOYED DOING THOSE CLASSES  AND TOWN HALLS.  >> AS YOU KNOW, I'VE RECENTLY  BEEN DOING TOURS OF THE CITY.  THROUGH MY EYES AND I ACTUALLY  HAD MULTIPLE TOURS WITH MANY  CANDIDATES, BOTH LOCAL COUNTY  AND EVEN STATE TAKE MY TOUR.  AND EACH ONE OF THEM WAS VERY  GRATEFUL BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS  SAID MY GOSH I DIDN'T KNOW  THIS WAS IN PORT. I DIDN'T  EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S IN SOME OF  THE CANDIDATES THAT LIVE HERE.  THEY LEARNED DIFFERENT THINGS  SO I ENJOY DOING TENDED  CANDIDATE FORMS. AND. THE  FIRST RESPONDERS FOR THE 911  CEREMONY, VERY SOLEMN EVENT I  ALWAYS ENJOYED THAT EVENT.  ATTENDED THE EDC LUNCHEON,  SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO.  BUT WHEN I ATTENDED THAT LUNCH  AND I HAD THE RARE OPPORTUNITY  TO SIT AT THE SPEAKER STABLE  AND THAT WAS A PRETTY COOL  HONORED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT  I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT EVEN  HAPPENED BUT THAT WAS REALLY  COOL. I TENDED THEM AND BEING  THE CITY'S CANDIDATE FOR  DELEGATION. WHICH IS SARASOTA  COUNTY AND MANATEE CANDIDATES.  THE CHAMBER. THEY HELD A  LUNCHEON FOR ME IS LIKE A  FAREWELL KIND OF A IT WAS IT  WAS REALLY SPECIAL AND I'M  VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THOSE  THAT ATTENDED I'M REALLY  GRATEFUL TO MY GUEST SPEAKERS  THANK YOU MISSUS HEATHER. AND  THIS CHRISTINE IF YOU'RE  WATCHING THANK YOU. BUT MY  HUBBY I THINK KIND OF STOLE  THE SHOW BECAUSE A LOT OF  PEOPLE SAID HE WAS QUITE FUNNY  WHICH HE AND TO HAVE MY SON.  PARTICIPATE IN IT WAS REALLY  SPECIAL FOR ME SO. ATTENDED  THE CHAMBER'S LEADERSHIP  GRADUATION. I BREAKFAST THAT  THEY HAD IT MORE. PARKS AND  REC THE RIBBON CUTTING GOSH  THAT SEEMS LIKE A NEON AGO TO  MARINA PARK. AND CERTAINLY  CITY'S I THINK THAT WAS MY  MEETING WITH THAT BOARD. AS  THEIR PRESIDENT AND AS AN  ELECTED OFFICIAL. 3RD QUARTER  LADY OF LOURDES. IT'S A GREAT  JOB TO RECOGNIZE OUR EMPLOYEES  WHO HAVE LONG BE HERE AT THE  CITY SO KUDOS TO ALL OF THEM  AND I THINK THERE WAS ONE THAT  HAD 35 YEARS ANYWAYS THAT'S  REALLY LONG TIME AND YESTERDAY  WAS ON GENERAL AND SHOW US IS  KRISPY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  OKAY COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> I WON'T GO THROUGH A WHOLE  LONG OF IT.  >> WHAT YOU'VE BEEN  >> I I SAID I WOULD YOU KNOW  THE USUAL I SERVE ON THE MPO  METROPOLITAN PLANNING  ORGANIZATION BOARD MEETINGS  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  CORPORATION BOARD MEETINGS.  >> I DO HAVE TO SAY FOR THE  PAST 2 OR 3 WEEKS RUNNING FOR  REELECTION HAS CONSUMED A LOT  OF MY TIME WITH CANADA OF  EVENTS AND I I MUST SINCE MOST  APPRECIATIVE OF CITY CLERK TO  MINDERS THAT REPORTS ARE DUE.  >> HAHA.  >> HAS MANAGED TO HAVE COST  THE OVER THE PAST MONTH OR SO  WITH 3 NOT PUT RESIDENTS WHO  MIGHT BE INTERESTED RUNNING  FOR COMMISSION. AND THOSE WHO  AREN'T SURE IF THEY HAVEN'T  BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CITY, I  ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY FOR  ONE OF OUR ADVISORY BOARDS IF  GOVERNMENT DOESN'T GET THEM  EXCITED THEN I SUGGEST THEY  TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF  NONPROFIT'S WHO ARE ALWAYS  LOOKING FOR TALENTED AND THEN  PEOPLE TO SIT ON THEIR BOARDS.  NO I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THEM  COME YET. BUT I'M OPTIMISTIC  THAT I MIGHT SEE SOME OF THOSE  FAMILIAR FACES AT SOME POINT  THE SIZE OF BOARD. SO AT THAT  POINT I WILL PASS THE BATON  THINK URINE THAT. YES.  >> YEAH, AND IN A WHILE I AM  >> THE CH ANY P POLICY THAT'S  THE COASTAL AND HEARTLAND AND  NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM. WE  MET IN SEPTEMBER AND BUT A FEW  THINGS THE ONE THING THAT  KEEPS COMING BACK THAT THIS  PAST BEATING, BUT THE ONE THAT  WE HAD 3 MONTHS BEFORE. WE  WANT WE HAD SOMEBODY FROM THE  NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. TALKING  ABOUT MAKING THE MYAKKA RIVER  A NATIONAL WILD AND SCENIC  RIVER, IT'S A STATE SCENIC  RIVER AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD  LIKE NO-BRAINER BUT IT DID GET  SOME PUSHBACK FROM SOME OTHER  THE OTHER REPRESENTATIVES  THERE AND IT STILL ON THE BACK  BURNER. THEY SAID THAT IT'S  GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT  MEETING'S AGENDA IN JANUARY OF  2025. THE RELUCTANCE IS THAT  THEY THOUGHT THIS WOULD  ANOTHER LAYER OF PROCESSES TO  THAT WERE AS IT WAS MADE CLEAR  THAT IF BEING DESIGNATED A  WILD AND SCENIC RIVER DOESN'T  HAVE ANYTHING DO WITH  PERMITTING IT'S IT'S IT'S  DESIGNATION. AND THAT'S BUT IT  OPENS UP TO FUNDING AND THINGS  LIKE THAT SO. IN THAT WILL BE  MORE CLARIFIED AND KNOW-HOW  MORE REPORT.  >> YESTERDAY A CHANCE AND YEAH  SUNDAY 30'S ORDER OF THE WORK  WE DID GET WHO GOT FRONT PAGE  ON PAPER THERE AND IT'S I THE  EVENT OF COURSE BECAUSE IT'S  EVENT THAT ARE CONSTRAINED,  BUT ALSO IT REALLY GETS PEOPLE  OUT THERE TO PORT AND THEY  ALWAYS COME BACK SAYING.  >> THAT IT'S IT'S ONE OF THEIR  FAVORITE RIGHT, SOME OF THEM  SAY IT IS THEIR FAVORITE RIGHT  WE GET RIDERS LIKE THE CALUSA  RIDERS CLUB AND THEY COME  EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THEY SAID  THIS A REAL HOME, HOW TYPE OF  AND I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE  TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I'VE  DONE MY SHARE OF RISE OF DO  THE RIGHT IN THE AREA. AND A  LOT OF THEM ARE ALONG. STREET  BUSY ROADS. THEY'RE NOT  NECESSARILY FUN. YOU DO THE  DISTANCE BUT. THE LAKEWOOD  RANCH GOES UP ON THESE A 50  MILE AN HOUR AND HERE I TAKE  THEM THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND  THEY REALLY GET TO PORT AND I  LOVE THAT AND AGAIN PEOPLE  COME BACK AND SAY I NEVER  KNEW NORTH PORT LOOK LIKE THIS  NUMBER ONE SOME OF THEM HAVE  BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS WILL  SAY WOW NORTH PORT REALLY  CHANGED AND THEY'RE THEY'RE  EXCITED ABOUT THE CHANGE THEY  SAY, AND THAT JUST YOU KNOW  MAKES ME FEEL THAT THAT THE  CITY THAT THEN FOR JUST ABOUT  HALF MY LIFE SO. YOU WITH A  GREAT EVENT AND AGAIN GETTING  THE KIND OF FEEDBACK IS IS  WONDERFUL TO DO WAS I THINK IT  WAS YESTERDAY RIGHT CITY  MANAGER WE HAD PRICE  BOULEVARD. SIGNING YEAH SO  AGAIN BIG BIG MILESTONE IN  GETTING THAT. TO FRUITION TICK  FINALLY PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW  WHEN IT'S GOING TO BREAK  GROUND AND I WAS TOLD MAYBE  AND IN JANUARY ACTUALLY GOING  TO SEE DIRT. I'M TURNING SO  IT'S IT'S BEEN A SLOW PROCESS  BUT IT IS HAPPENING AND I'M  JUST I WAS JUST SO HAPPY TO BE  A PART OF THAT FINALLY AGAIN I  KNOW COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  REMEMBERS THIS TO SAYING ALL  THOSE BOARDS WITH THE PLAN  WHICH IDEA DID WE LIKE AND PUT  THE STICKERS ON SEEMS LIKE A  LIFETIME AGO, BUT IT'S FINALLY  REALLY HAPPENED. PART OF WITH  I WILL WORK WENT INTO THAT  PROJECT.  >> YEAH, A LOT EFFORT INTO  THAT PROJECT IS WASN'T JUST  APPROVING THE PLANS THERE WAS  SO BRIAN, THE SCENES WHICH  TAKES A WHILE YEAH.  >> RIGHT AND I LOVE HOW WE  KIND OF ROLLED THE CARPET OUT  WITH THAT WITH THE PUBLIC.  COMING TO MALONE CENTER AND WE  HAD THE BIG PRICE BOULEVARD ON  THE TABLES THERE SO PEOPLE CAN  SEE WHERE THEY LIVED AND HOW  IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEM AND  JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS THAT WAS  A GREAT IDEA. SO WELL ALL  RIGHT CITY ANYTHING.  >> CITY ATTORNEY. CITY MANAGER  CASE I WENT FOR OFFICERS AND I  THINK WE ARE GOOD RIGHT.  >> IT IS 6.56 AND I ADJOURN  THIS MEETING HAVE A NICE ONE.  --------- ##VIDEO ID:oAuSXixDTSU## BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN  YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND  KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS  AND YOU ALSO SHARE IT WITH  PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR  NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY KNOW  WHAT YOUR PLANS AHEAD OF TIME  AND HOW TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR  WAY TO LOOK FOR ASIAN YOU  SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE ROUTES TO  GET TO LOCATION. YOU'RE  PLANNING TO GO TO JUST BECAUSE  TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON 75  MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE  COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK  ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE  GOING THAT COULD GET YOU  ♪ THERE MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT  BEING STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN  YOU'RE MAKING.  >> GOOD MORNING. TODAY IS  TUESDAY OCTOBER 22ND 2024 IT  IS 10:00AM WE'RE IN THE CITY  CHAMBERS AND I ALL THIS CITY  COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING TO  ORDER.  >> WELL ALL WE HAVE  COMMISSIONER EMRICH VICE MAYOR  STOKES MYSELF MAYOR WHY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. WE HAVE  IN TURN CITY ATTORNEY BOWEN  ASSISTANT CITY CLERK POWELL.  WE HAVE BOARD SPECIAL BOAT WE  HAVE CITY MANAGER FLETCHER AND  WE HAVE CAPTAIN CAME FROM THE  BULLIES. AND WE HAVE OUR CHIEF  TITUS THANKS FOR STANDING  HELPS ME OUT A LOT.  >> AND I THINK I HAVE  EVERYBODY YET AND TO LEAD US  IN THE PLEDGE OF NICOLE ON  GAYLE WEST FROM THE NORTH PORT  ARTS CENTER.  >> SINCE OF UNITED STATES OF  AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR  WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION  UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH  LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.  ♪ ♪ THANK  >> ALL RIGHT, I'M LOOKING FOR  APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA SO  MOVED SECOND.  ♪ I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE  MAYOR STARTS TO APPROVE THE  AGENDA AND THAT WAS SECONDED  BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON  ♪ THING ELSE.  >> BOAT.  >> AND THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. IS  THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TOO.  >> ROBBINS AND DISSENTING  FOLLOWED BY JOHN RAWLINGS.  >> GOT TO MENTION IF YOU DO  INTEND TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT  CARDS ARE IN THE BACK IN THE  LOBBY AND IS ALSO I THINK UP  HERE.  >> TO COMPLIMENT THE CITY FOR  GETTING US THE PREPARATION OF  THE HURRICANE AND FOR WHAT  THEY DID DURING THE HURRICANE.  AND I'M GOING INCLUDE JOHN  RAWLINGS FOR THAT BECAUSE  WITHOUT IT I WOULD HAVE BEEN  LOST PERSONALLY. I LOST MY  LIST EVERYTHING BUT I HAD MY  DAY TO RUN MY FALL. SO I WAS  ABLE TO UPDATES. AND I REALLY  THINK THE CITY DID EXCELLENT  JOB, EVEN MOVING THE WATER.  WHAT IT WAS MOVED GREAT. WE  DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY  PROBLEMS SO I WANTED TO GET  THAT OUT FOR US TO THANK  EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY YOU JOB,  THANK YOU. THE SECOND THING I  WANTED TO BRING UP WAS JUST  UPDATE ON THE SPRING HAVEN  ROADWAY EXPANSION. I SAW ON  THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT THAT  STATUS IS PENDING AS FAR AS  WITH THE COUNTY AND MAYBE NOT.  FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO DO THE.  INCORPORATION INTO THE  SENSITIVE LANDS PROGRAM. BUT I  DID SEE AN UPDATE ON EASEMENT  AT SO IT WAS JUST WONDERING IS  THAT PARTICULAR EASEMENT IS  GOING TO BE MAY BE WORKED ON  WITH THE AXTON AND TIES TO  PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE  WORKING ON THE SPRINGS WOMAN  WILL SPRINGS. I KNOW EVERYBODY  IS WONDERING ABOUT THAT  BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO LET  THAT GO WITH THEM. ANOTHER  THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT THANK  YOU. CHARLES.  >> COME HERE AND JUST SURE  SOME KUDOS FIRST OFF BECAUSE I  WAS PART OF THE UC TWICE. I  THINK THE CITIZENS FROM A  CITIZENS POINT OF VIEW I  UNDERSTAND THE PROFESSIONALISM  THAT OUR CITY HAS. ALSO THE  CONFIDENCE THEY SHOULD HAVE  WITH THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE  HAVE WITHIN OUR WALLS. WE'RE  HEADED FOR GREATNESS. WHETHER  YOU'RE KICKING SCREAMING ALONG  THE WAY OR NOT ALL RIGHT YOUR  CHOICE AND I LOVE THE FACT  THAT THAT MORE PEOPLE WOULD  GET INVOLVED BUT I THINK THIS  IS MORE TOWARDS THE CITIZENS.  I THINK YOU NEED WAKE UP AND  START PAYING ATTENTION AND GET  INVOLVED AT EVERY ASPECT OF  WHAT THE CITY IS DOING WHICH  KIDS ARE DOING. THOSE OF YOU  WHO ARE DOING IT, YOU KNOW  WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE  OF YOU ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST  PART OF THAT GROUP. WE ALL  NEED TO TO PAY ATTENTION LEARN  MORE. I THINK THE PARKS AND  REC DEPARTMENT HERE DOES A  GREAT JOB, INCLUDING ALL OF  THE THE FEATURES OF OUR GO.  IT'S IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE  DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT HERE TO  OFFER. FOR KIDS. IT'S COMMON.  IT BE TENSION. MATTER STORES  AND AUTO PART STORES ARE NOT  ALL WE'RE GOING TO BE ABOUT IN  THE FUTURE. STAY ON THE GAME.  DON'T LOSE TRACK OF WHAT  YOU'RE DOING. ANYONE WHO COMES  THIS WORK. SHOULD TAKE HEED OF  THAT SAME MORNING. YOU'RE  GOING GET RUN OVER WITH THE  FUTURE AND SO WHAT A GREAT.  TREES I LOVE IT BECAUSE YOU  ARE THAT RELAY TEAM NO MATTER  WHAT ANYONE SAYS YOU ARE THAT  REALLY. I'M TIRED OF THE NIT  PICKING. ALL NEED TO GROW. PAY  ATTENTION GET INVOLVED AND  SUPPORT IT. ALL ASPECTS WHAT  YOU DON'T LIKE IT. WE'RE NOT  KUDOS TO EVERYONE WHO WAS IN  THE O C IT WAS AMAZING TO  WATCH IT. IT WAS 2 DIFFERENT  ENVIRONMENTS FROM ELAINE  TOMORROW AND I WANT TO TELL  YOU WHAT WE SHOULD TO RIGHT  GREAT PRIDE EVERY ASPECT OF  WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. LIKE  IT. LARGEST SUPPORT. BALL.  WERE TO SUPPLANT. BUT WAS BE  ANY THING I'M TRYING TO  SUPPRESS OR ANYONE ELSE IN  HERE IS TRYING TO SUPPRESS  THEY'RE NOT. THAT'S ALL OKAY.  >> MOVING TO ITEM 3  ANNOUNCEMENTS.  >> THE CURRENT VACANCIES FOR  THE FOLLOWING BOARDS AND  COMMITTEES INCLUDE OUR  ADVISORY BOARD SELECTION  COMMITTEE CHARTER REVIEW  ADVISORY BOARD CITIZENS TAX  OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.  HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL  ADVISORY POLICE OFFICERS  PENSION TRUST FUND BOARD OF  TRUSTEES PARKS AND RECREATION  ADVISORY BOARD PLANNING AND  ZONING ADVISORY BOARD THAT  RUNS PART ADVISORY COMMITTEE  ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS  SARASOTA COUNCIL VACANCIES  INCLUDE CITIZENS ADVISORY  COMMITTEE CITIZENS OVERSIGHT  COMMITTEE FOR SCHOOL SO THE  PLANNING AND PARKS AN ADVISORY  RECREATION COUNCIL IF ANYONE  WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION  PLEASE SEE AS CITY CLERK'S  OFFICE THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT FOR  MOVING TO ITEM FOR CONSENT  AGENDA CITY MANAGER HAVE ANY  ITEMS BEEN PULLED. BUT  EVERYONE I AM.  >> OR OF DAY WHAT A  >> ALL RIGHT SO. PUBLIC. A GUY  WHO PULLED THAT. OKAY. YEAH  BUT WHAT GOING HEAR A PUBLIC  COMMENT ANY PUBLIC COMMENT,  KNOW OKAY.  >> TO ACCEPT THE OTHER ITEMS  ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND  WE'LL GET BACK TO SO ALL  RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE  BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO  APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THE  EXCEPTION OF ITEM D DAVID AND  THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> SO NOTHING ELSE THAT VOTE.  5 TO 0 ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER  DOUBT TAKE I KNOW THAT  >> I KNOW THAT THIS OBJECT IS  A LITTLE BIT SO I'M GOING TO  STICK TO THE INFORMATION THAT  WAS SHARED. ON LEGISLATIVE  TEXT AND OUR POLICY. SO IN THE  LEGISLATIVE TEXT THIS SAID  THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE  USING. THE CITY SEAL. FOR  EMAILS TOO. STAFF. DETERMINE  BETWEEN PHISHING EMAIL SOME  LEGITIMATE E-MAILS. IT KIND OF  LIKE SOCIAL ENGINEERING  TRAINING.  >> DIDN'T SIT WELL VERY WELL  WITH MEANING. BECAUSE IT'S  KIND OF DECEPTIVE. THE. CITY  SEAL POLICY. AND THE CITY SEAL  POLICY SAYS NO PERSON MAY MAKE  USE COPY REPRODUCE OR DEPICT  THE CITY SEAL WITH THE INTENT.  WHERE WHERE THIS USE IS LIKELY  TO CONFUSE DECEIVE OR MISLEAD.  THIS DEAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE  USED FOR CITY PISTONS CITY  BUSINESS ONLY. AND I JUST I DO  NOT UNDERSTAND HAS TO BE USED  IN THIS WHEN WE HAVE CITY  LOGO. AND I THINK THAT THE  CITY LOGO WOULD BE A MUCH MORE  APPROPRIATE USE. FOR THIS I'M  KIND OF TRAINING AS OPPOSED TO  TRYING TO GET A GOT SHOW WITH  OUR CITY SEAL.  >> E-MAILS.  >> SO THAT IS MY $0.2. AND  TAKE IT AWAY.  >> IF ANYBODY HAS ANY  QUESTIONS OR.  >> ALL RIGHT SO.  >> DO WE HAVE ANYONE WANTS.  THAT I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING.  >> K. MAKE A MOTION THAT. I  MAKE A MOTION.  >> WITH SOME CHANGES TO  APPROVE THE CYBERSECURITY AND  INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY  AGREEMENT. DENYING THE USE OF  THE CITY SEAL WITHIN THIS  AGREEMENT.  >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  REGARDING THE USE OF THE CITY  SALE CITY SEAL AND CYBER  SECURITY. 3 I HAVE THAT I  CAPTURE. THAT COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL LED A SECOND. SECOND  FOR A DISCUSSION. OKAY THAT  WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> IF IF I'M A CITY CAN  SOMEONE ON STAFF ADDRESSED THE  PROS AND CONS OF USING THE  SEAL VERSUS THE LOGO FOR THIS  PURPOSE.  >> WE'RE GOING TO BE CAREFUL  WHAT WE SAY BUT WHAT I WOULD  SAY IS THAT.  >> THIS IS THE SAME WAY THAT  WE USE THIS IN THE PAST THIS  IS NOT NEW.  >> NO WE BELIEVE INITIALLY  CHANGE FOR ANY OTHER MAKE A  WAY IT CURRENTLY SITS RIGHT.  >> THANK YOU SIR. WE  DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. AT THE  END OF THE DAY THE BAD GUYS  DON'T CARE. THE THEY'RE GOING  TO USE IT BECAUSE YOU  >> GRABBING FROM ANY WEB SITE  OR WHERE IT ALREADY EXIST  DIGITALLY AND USE IT FOR THEIR  VARIOUS PURPOSES. THE PURPOSE  IS TO TRAIN OUR PEOPLE TO  RECOGNIZE WHAT THOSE ISSUES  ARE WHAT THOSE DIFFERENCES MAY  BE AND NOT GET CAUGHT UP THAT  IT LOOKS OFFICIAL.  >> FURTHER COMMENT ON THAT.  WHICH MEANT DELI ON TO YOUR  FINGER DOWN TRYING NOT SAYS  TRYING TO GET MOTHERHOOD THIS  TOUCH SCREEN DOESN'T LIKE  COACHING WE HAVE A POLICY IN  PLACE NOT TO USE IT FOR THIS.  AND POLICY TRUMP'S IT IN MY  OPINION. IF IF YOU DON'T LIKE  THE POLICY THAT CHANGE POLICY.  IT'S THAT SIMPLE.  >> AND THE FACT THAT CITY  MANAGER SAID THAT THIS HAS  BEEN USED IN THE PAST I DON'T  EVER REMEMBER APPROVING THE  USE OF THE CITY SEAL FOR  SOMETHING LIKE THIS EVER  BEFORE. AND PREVIOUS  AGREEMENTS, SO I WILL YOU THE  FLOOR AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER  THEN WE CAN CALL  >> I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY  ELSE. NICE AND DID OKAY, SO  LET'S VOTE ON THAT. EMBRACE  THAT IDEA.  >> TO APPROVE THIS  CYBERSECURITY HIM AND  INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY AGENCY  CYBER SECURITY ASSESSMENT  RULES OF ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT  DENYING THE USE OF THE CITY  SEAL WITHIN THE AGREEMENT.  >> AND THAT FAILS TO 2 RE. BY  SPIRITED YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON  THAT. OR BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT  NOW.  >> YEAH NO I. I BELIEVE WE  HAVE TO FOLLOW THE  RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF HERE  AND APPROVED JUST LIKE IT IS.  >> I AGREE WITH THAT.  >> BUT JUST HAD BY SUNDAY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> SAME I THINK WE NEED TO  FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF  OUR IT STAFF.  >> I I'M SORRY EVEN NOT  SUPPORTED THE REASON BEING ONE  STAFF SAID IT DIDN'T MATTER  WHAT WE USE THE BAD GUYS WILL  STILL USE IT REGARDLESS.  >> IT JUST BECAME AND IN MY  OPINION SO WE CAN TO SLOW GO  FOR THE AND THAT'S WHY I  SUPPORTED OKAY, THANKS RICK OR  FIND THAT COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> MOTION WE'RE YOUR HONOR FOR  SPEAKING THAT YOU WANT TO  SPEAK.  >> ALL RIGHT SO LOOKING FOR  ANOTHER MOTION. ARE THOSE THAT  JUST NOT. MAKING THAT WE  PROVED CYBERSECURITY AND  INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY  AGREEMENT.  >> CYBER SECURITY ASSESSMENTS  ROLES IN A GAME OF ENGAGEMENT  AGREEMENT AND PROVIDE C I WITH  EXPRESS APPROVAL TO USE CITY  SEAL IN FOR THE RICH OF THE  AGREEMENT.  >> WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY  VICE MAYOR TO APPROVE A  CONSENT ITEM D WHICH IS TO  APPROVE THE CYBER SICK  SECURITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE  SECURITY AGENCY. CYBERSECURITY  ASSESSMENTS RULES OF  ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND  PROVIDE CSA WITH EXPRESS  APPROVAL TO USE THE CITY SEAL  AND FURTHER IS OF THE  AGREEMENT AND THAT WAS  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON THERE'S NOTHING ELSE  VOTE.  AND I COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL FOR REASONS STATED I  DISSENTED BECAUSE WE HAVE A  POLICY IN PLACE A POLICY NEEDS  TO BE FOLLOWED.  >> CASE. I A MOM TOO GENERAL  I'M 24 DASH 1, 4, 5, 8, CITY  MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> THANK YOU 2021 WERE  DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION  REGARDING THAT IS A BIG  DONATION TO THE NORTH PORT  BUILDINGS, PROPERTY LOANS AND  CHIPPED AWAY. A CITY IS  DEFINITELY A DATED SEPTEMBER  16TH OF THIS YEAR DISCUSSING.  SO THE CONDITIONS THE  EVALUATION. THAT WE DID FOR  THE BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY  BEING USED ANY EVALUATION  INDICATED THAT THE FACILITY'S  I DID NOT HAVE THE STRUCTURAL  INTEGRITY TO SUPPORT A NEW  ROOF LINE WITH CURRENT CODE  REQUIREMENTS. THERE'S A AT  THIS LEVEL COULD NOT BE  COMPLETED. SO WE SENT A LETTER  OUT THERE WAS CONVERSATION  ABOUT WHAT THE ART CENTER WITH  YOU NEXT WE DO KNOW WHEN  EVERYONE IS WAS AS THE THAT  YOUR TO OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE  PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AS  AS ONE OF OUR PRIORITY THAN  THE CITY WHICH IS EVIDENCE BY  THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAVE  CURRENTLY AT THE LOCATION THAT  THEY HAVE. AS WE SPEAK MORE  MORE TO THE NORTH PORT CITY  MANAGEMENT INCLUDES SCALE WEST  HERSELF IN SO WE'RE ARE HERE  TODAY TO SPEAK ABOUT HOW THE  CITY COULD HELP AID THEM IN  THEIR EFFORT TO FIGURE OUT  WHAT THEY WILL DO NEXT THE  CITY HAS THEY AREN'T WHAT THEY  ARE CENTERED WE FEEL LIKE WE  HAVE OBLIGATION A MISSION TO  HELP THEM AS THEY TRIED BOARD  WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN  HELP THEM WITH I THINK THAT  MYSELF IN THIS COMMISSION ARE  GOING TO LISTEN IN TO HEAR  THAT SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT A  PATH FORWARD. BUT I WILL ASK  THIS WEST TAKE A LOOK NOW  BECAUSE LEAD OFF THE  CONVERSATION. IT'S YES MAKES  YOU WANT TO SHARE IT SHARE  WITH YOU. SO WE CAN HAVE A  GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT  THE NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE AND  HOW THE CITY GETTING THERE  THINK ABOUT WELCOME THANK YOU  VERY MUCH APPRECIATE BEING  HERE. I'M GAYLE WEST. THE  VOLUNTEER BOARD CHAIR. FOR THE  NORTH BUT CENTER. AND WE'VE  GOT A LOT OF DISCUSSION  INTERNALLY THANKFULLY WITH  JEROME AND HIS TEAM.  >> AND I BASICALLY HAVE 3  REQUEST. THUS THE COMMISSION.  KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO  OUT OF. OUR BUILDING. AS OF  SEPTEMBER 2025. WE REQUEST  PERMISSION TO BE ABLE TO USE  THE SCOUT HOUSE. MONDAY  THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 10:00AM TO  03:00PM IN ORDER TO PROVIDE  FOR THE HOME SCHOOL CLASSES  THAT WE HAVE. FOR THE CENTER  AND FOR ADULT DAY CLASSES.  WE'RE LOOKING TO SARASOTA  COUNTY TO GUARD THEIR SCHOOL  SYSTEM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO  COME BY AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM  FOR CHILDREN AND FOR EVENING  CLASSES FOR ALSO THE  POSSIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO  THE SCHOOLS TO BITE. ON THE  WEEKEND. WORKSHOPS AND  VETERANS PROGRAMS. MY SECOND  REQUEST. THE COMMISSION. IS  AFTER THE DEMOLITION OF THE 2  BUILDINGS THAT THE PORT ART  CENTER HAS BEEN USING FOR 17  YEARS. WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE  OPPORTUNITY OF RETURNING TO  THAT SAME FOOTPRINT IN ORDER  TO CONSTRUCT AND BUILD TO  STORY. ART CENTER WITH  IMPROVED PARKING. WITH  IMPROVED PARKING IN MIND. I 30  QUEST. IS TO ASK THE  COMMISSION'S TO DESIGNATE THE  GREEN AREA THAT IS DIRECTLY  ACROSS FROM THE CURRENT MAIN  BUILDING OF THE NORTH PORT ART  CENTER AS ADDITIONAL PARKING  SPACE THE NORTH PORT ARTS  CENTER. THE NORTH PART  ACCIDENT. RESIDENTS. STUDENTS.  ALREADY USING THAT SPACE  HOWEVER, IT'S DESIGNATED AS  ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE THAT  SPACE COULD BE MORE  EFFECTIVELY USED. I WALKED OUT  AND LOOKS AS IF WE COULD HAVE  AT LEAST 2 ROWS OF PARKING  THERE. AS IT IS RIGHT NOW  SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE PART YOU  CAN ONLY GET ONE ROW. SO THOSE  ARE THE REQUESTS THAT I HAVE  THOSE OF THE THINGS I KNOW  THAT THE COMMISSION AND HELP  WITH MAYBE UTLEY.  >> THANK YOU BOARD OVER MORE  THAN YOU WANT TO SHOW WITH THE  VISUAL TO SHOW.  >> WELL I'M NOT SURE THAT'S  WHAT'S UP HERE. OUT THE THE  U.S..  >> RESIDENTS TO KNOW THE FACT  THAT OVER THE PAST WEEK OR SO  I PROVIDED THE COMMISSIONERS  WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THE  STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE NORTH  PORT CENTER WHICH INCLUDE TO  THE REQUEST AND ALSO LET THEM  KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR  AS MAKING PLANS. 2. LEAVE THE  BUILDING. WE'VE HAD SOME  PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND WE'RE  TRYING TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT  TO THE COMMUNITY THAT YES WE  ARE LEAVING THAT BUILDING THAT  THEY'VE COMING TO FOR YEARS  BUT ART CENTER IS NOT BEING IN  THIS COMMUNITY. WE HAVE  DEDICATED. TEACHERS  INSTRUCTORS. STAFF VOLUNTEERS,  WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE ARTS  PROGRAM. AND IT'S NOT JUST AN  ARTS PROGRAM ART EDUCATION  PROGRAM. I WATCH YOU KNOW THAT  WE'RE HERE AND WE HAVE BEEN  TALKING TO STATION ACTUALLY  IT'S MARTIN BUILDING. I'M NOT  SURE THAT'S UP HERE. IT HAS A  NORTHWARD ARTS AND THE MARTIN  BUILDING. DID PROVIDE.  COMMISSIONER INFORMATION ABOUT  THE MARTIN BUILDING. I WANTED  PLAY IN MARTIN BUILDING. HE'S  BEEN HEADQUARTERED IN WORK  MORTON, ILLINOIS. FOR NUMBER  OF YEARS THEY'VE BEEN  OPERATION FOR A 120 YEARS.  THEY'VE BEEN IN SOUTHWEST OR  25 YEARS. THIS IS WHAT HE'S  LOOKING FOR. YOU COULD  PROBABLY PUT IT ON SO JUST AS  WE TRY TO PULL THAT UP TO SING  TAKE A QUICK LOOK JUST WANT  LET YOU KNOW THAT. ONE OF THE  THINGS THAT WAS SO INTERESTING  WE'RE TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT  WAYS THAT CENTER COULD. BILL  TO PROVIDE CONTINUED.  PROGRAMMING.  >> IDEALLY AND OUR STRATEGIC  PLAN WE ARE LOOKING AT 3 TO 5  ACRES, SO WE COULD HAVE A  DESTINATION A PLACE FOR NOT  ONLY CAN WE HAVE PROGRAMS BUT  ALSO WITH BIDEN MEETING SPACES  FOR OTHER NONPROFIT  ORGANIZATIONS FOR BUSINESSES  THERE'S NOT REALLY A PLACE  WHERE YOU CAN HOP MEETINGS WE  WANT TO BUILD BY THAT WE DON'T  FIND ANYTHING WE'VE TALKED TO  SO WHEN THE VOTERS WE TALKED  TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT. REALTORS  COMMERCIAL REALTORS THEY SAY  THERE IS NO SPACE WE'VE TALKED  TO THE CITY THERE'S NO WAY AT  THIS POINT IN TIME. NOT PUT  OUT SO THAT WE TALKED TO  SARASOTA COUNTY. THERE'S NO  LAND. FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND  HAVE THIS PARTICULAR. INMATES  THAT WE HAD FOR DESTINATION.  SO THAT'S WHY. WE WOULD LIKE  TO RETURN TO THE SAME  FOOTPRINT. WE DID MENTION THAT  WE HAD A PAINT PARTY ON  SATURDAY. MENTION TO THE 16  PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE THAT WE  HAD A MEETING WITH THE  COMMISSION AND WE'RE GOING TO  ASK TO COMBAT THE SAME PLACE.  THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT  THAT. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE  SAYING GOING TO BE. YIELD.  REPRESENTATIVE HERE SHE'S BEEN  WITH THIS LIKE FOREVER. THANK  YOU SO MUCH. I THINK SHE  BROUGHT MAY BE TALKING A FEW  MINUTES. WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT  OF US. IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT  BUILDING THAT'S DEFINED. THINK  THAT.  WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SNOW  DOWN HERE  >> TRYING TO OUT NO GOOD THINK  BASICALLY WHAT I LIKED ABOUT  THIS WHEN WE LOOKED EVERYTHING  I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY HAD  EXPERIENCE BUILDING YOUR OWN  HOUSE. AND THEN YOU HAVE A  CONTRACTOR AND THEN SOMETIMES  IT GETS DELAYED BECAUSE THE  SUBCONTRACTOR CAN'T WORK IT  WILL BE HERE OVER THERE. THIS  IS A TURNKEY PROJECT. COMPANY  WOULD BE WITH US NOW WE DON'T  HAVE CONTRACT YET BECAUSE WE  NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE  A PLACE TO GO TO. BUT THIS  CONTRACT IT WOULD WORK WITH US  AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING.  INTERIOR DESIGN. IT HAS  EVERYTHING SO LET ME SEE IF  PUT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT  MORE. INTO THIS. JUST TO SHOW  YOU. AND THAT'S THAT'S THIS  MONTH. I JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD  AND MAKE SURE THAT INDEED THAT  WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AND  TRYING TO FIND A NEW LOCATION.  THE IDEAL SITUATION WOULD BE  FOR US TO RETURNED. THE SAME.  BUT KENT WHERE WE'VE BEEN FOR  17 YEARS. PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH  THAT. I CAN IMAGINE THE NEXT.  12 MONTHS  24 MONTHS, 3 YEARS. IF WE  DON'T HAVE THE TO 5 ACRES  AVAILABLE. THE BILL IN NORTH  PORT ART CENTER NOW I DON'T  THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN  IN THE FUTURE. I KNOW IF WE  CAN GO HITTING THE BACK THE  SAME FOOTPRINT. WE. AND THE  RESIDENTS. YOU'RE IN THE NORTH  PORT AREA. WOULD BE  APPRECIATIVE. THOSE ARE THE  REQUESTS THAT I HAVE.  ♪ LOOKING AT COMPANY HERE THAT  CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE  ♪ IT HAPPEN. THEY HAVE  EVERYTHING THAT'S AVAILABLE TO  US TURNKEY. THE CONSTRUCTION,  THEY HAVE THE ARCHITECTS THEY  HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS. THEY  HAVE. THE DRAFT THEY HAVE  EVERYTHING TALKED TO THEM ONE  OF THE REASONS THAT A LOT OF  TIMES. CONSTRUCTION TAKES SO  LONG. IT'S PERMITTING. THEY  SAID MOST OF TIME THAT'S  BECAUSE CONTRACTORS DON'T HAVE  EVERYTHING IN PLACE BEFORE THE  REQUEST COMMITTEE. TALK TO  THEM IT SOUNDS TO  CONCENTRATION ON THE DETAIL.  GETTING THINGS DONE. THIS  MIGHT BE THE BEST OPTION FOR  US. THEY HAVE DONE SOME THEY  HAVEN'T DONE IN COMMERCIAL IN  THE NORTH PORT AREA BUT THEY  HAVE BEEN IN THE NORTH  RESIDENTIAL I THINK YOU CAN  SEE THIS IS A NICE LOOKING  BUILDING. THEY CAN MAKE  SOMETHING THAT'S LOOK  FANTASTIC. THE NORTH PART ART  TO CONTINUE HERE IN.  >> OKAY SO WHAT I SEE IS WE  HAVE 3 REQUESTS I WOULD JUST  CITY MAGIC GIVE ANYTHING ADD  TO THAT AND THEN.  >> THE COMMISSIONERS IF YOU  CAN KEEP THOSE 3 POINTS IN  MIND AND THEN WE MAKE MOTIONS  EACH ONE OR ARE JUST 8 WHEN  SEPARATELY CITY MANAGER THE  COMING OFF A I THINK SOME OF  OTHER BOARD WITH WHAT BECAUSE  WELL WITH A WRAP-UP  ♪ ♪ ABOUT.  >> THAT YOU HAVE ANYBODY HAVE  ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD TO  THAT THEN ON  ♪ I THINK YOU'VE GOTTEN  >> CENTER ALSO. ON THE BOARD  OF DIRECTORS AS THE VICE  PRESIDENT AND I JUST WANT TO  GO AT WHAT GALE SAID. THIS  COMPANY THAT PEOPLE HAVE ALL  THE NUTS AND BOLTS READY TO  GO. IT WOULD BE THE FASTEST  WAY THAT WE CAN MOVE AHEAD.  ONE OF THE LEAST EXPENSIVE  WAYS THAT WE CAN MOVE THAT.  WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A  COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP  WITH US. THE CITY AND I  CERTAINLY EXPECT THAT THAT  WILL CONTINUE. ONE OF THE  THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP  US. IT YOU HAVE LOTS OF  EXPERTISE AND THE STAFF. OTHER  INDIVIDUALS CONNECTED CITY  HALL. WE HAVE EXPERTISE IN  ART. BUT ONLY GOES SO FAR SO  WE NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU SPEND  A HELPING HAND TIMES. WE NEED  MORE INFORMATION AND WE NEED  SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR. HOW TO  MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP BECAUSE  THIS IS ALL VERY NEW TO US BUT  WE WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR  US AND FOR THE COMMUNITY. ALL  RIGHT. THANK YOU.  >> I'M BIG OUT IF OTHER PEOPLE  WANT TO SPEAK SHOULD THEY DO  WITH THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT.  JOHN ON THE RECORD AND YES, IF  YOU WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC  COMMENT ON THIS ARTS THERE AND  CLERK WILL CALL WELCOMING YEAH  I I WOULD THAT WE WOULD THIS  BUT THEY COME TOGETHER.  >> SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE  TO DO THAT SO THEY DID ASK  SHOULD YOU WANT TAKE THEIR  NAMES BIG COULD BUT I DIDN'T  WANT THEM TO BE SO TREAT IT  THEY WANT TO PARTNER ON THIS  PARTICULAR OCCASION.  >> OKAY SO PLEASE IF I THINK  THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GIVE  YOUR NAME AND YOUR  RELATIONSHIP TO THE ARTS  CENTER FOR THE RECORD.  >> IT JUST AS PORT. I LISTEN  TO THAT YOU HAVE APPRECIATE  YOUR ENTHUSIASM ABOUT GUYS ON  BUILDING. MUCH. COMING IN FOR  US, BUT. AND YOU KNOW. HOUSE  AND A LITTLE IS. AND MEMBERS  OF CHEAP THIS EVENT MEANT IN  THIS. AND NOW. WHICH HAS BEEN  A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY. BILL  LIKE FROM CONCRETE AND STONE.  FROM METAL. IT WILL HAVE MORE  A LOT MORE METAL LIKE EVERY  LIKE 5, 6, YEARS YOU HAVE TO  DO THAT HOUSEHOLD MAKING THIS.  IT WILL BE VERY HARD LITTLE  DIRTY. IT BEGINNING LIKE I WE  TALK ABOUT LAUGHTER LIKE 70  YEARS. THAT BUILDING WILL BE  COULD PET. SOME FROM A HIKE IN  DENVER HEATED THAT DAMAGED  FENCE AND NOT MY OPINION. IF  YOU WANT TO BE THE GARAGE WITH  A SELF LIKE I DID YOU KNOW SHE  EVEN PAST HE DID, BUT FOR THE  CD AND. REPRESENTED FEEL BAD  AFTER 5 YEARS I KNOW AS YOU  KNOW FULL I DO I BUILD THEM  JUST JUST FINISHED ONE PULL  THE PERMIT OR NOT THE ONE IT'S  A MALE BUILDING. THE 170 MILE  PER HOUR WINDS BEGIN BACK AND  EVERYTHING. BUT THAT'S REALLY  LIKE AFTER. 6, YEARS. MAYBE 10  NEWS, LOOKING BACK THE START  THINKING ABOUT. TAKE IT OUT  AND DO SOMETHING MORE. I DON'T  WANT TO HAVE THAT CENTER. THAT  OKAY THANK YOU CITY MANAGER.  >> LET ME CLARIFY YES, THE  BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND I  PRESIDENT YEAH BUT THEY COULD  NOT PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE  JUST GOT SO MY APOLOGY THAT  THE BOARD MEMBER OF IS THE ART  CENTER SO ANYONE WHO IS NOT  THE BOARD MEMBER BEEN YES,  COMPLETELY SURE THEY WERE YES,  BUT  >> GOOD MORNING. I'M MY NAME  IS CARE FOR CEREAL AND I'M THE  IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT OF  THE NORTH ARTS CENTER. AND I  APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT  THAT WE RECEIVED OVER THE  YEARS FROM THE CITY LAKE. FOR  YOU IN THE COMMUNITY TO BE  AWARE OF THE MANY  COLLABORATION YS. AND OUTREACH  THAT WE ARE INVOLVED I KNOW  THAT THE CITY AND THE  COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR AND  THE CITY MANAGER KNOW ABOUT  BUT I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE  COMMUNITY AND THOSE HEARING IN  SPACE AND NOT. SO I'M NOT  GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME  BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY  >> WE.  >> MENTION LOVED ONE CENTER  >> CREATIVELY ABLE TO ADULTS  TO COME OF THE ART CENTER ONCE  A WEEK FOR FREE OUR CLASSES.  WE ALSO HAVE GONE INTO THE LOW  TO SCHOOL OF AUTISTIC CHILDREN  AND PRESENT PREVENTED ARE  GIVEN THEM ARE CLASSES. THERE  NO COST WE HOST THE NORTH PORT  POETRY SOCIETY ONCE A MONTH.  AND THEY COME IN AND THEY  GATHER AND SHARE THEIR PALMS,  THEY ALSO PICK ARTWORK OUT  IT'S AN ART GALLERY. AND RIGHT  OF ALL MEN ARE ABLE TO READ  THEIR PALM ABOUT THE ARTWORK  AND OUR RECEPTIONS. THE LEFT  COAST STOP IN SOCIETIES COMES  IN ONCE A MONTH. AND HOST ALSO  THE PASTELS AND PARADISE  SPRING WHICH IS VERY O WELL  RECEIVED WE HAVE A WONDERFUL  VETERANS PROGRAM IS A LOT OF  YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WORKSHOPS  AND CLASSES FOR VETERANS PASS  AND OF COURSE IT'S IT'S AND  SUCH A HELP TO THEM WITH THEIR  THEIR PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL  NEEDS ESPECIALLY PTSD WE'VE  MOST THE KIWANIS FOR DIFFERENT  WE THE NORTH FOR PARKS AND REC  WE CLASS ONCE A MONTH OVER IN  THE MORGAN CENTER. AND WE  HOLSTEN NORTH PORT LEADERSHIP  PLANTS FOR THEIR CULTURE AND  WE ALSO HOST A CHAMBER FOR  BUSINESS AFTER HOURS. WE HAVE  OUR WORK HANGING AROUND THE  CITY  ♪ CITY HALL HERE. I'M THE SENIOR  CENTER AND WE HAVE HAD OUR OR  MULTIPLE TIMES IN CALDWELL  RIGHT ON 41 AND THE CENTURY 21  IN VENICE,  ♪ WHICH IS THEIR SISTER COMPANY.  I JUST WANT HAVE THE  OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOME  ENLIGHTENING TO THE COMMUNITY  OF EXACTLY HOW IMPORTANT IT  IS. FOR SUPPORT AND I THANK  YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING HERE.  >> ANYONE ELSE FROM THE A  COURT ORDER THAT WANTED TO SAY  SOMETHING.  >> 100 PUBLIC OUT. WELL FOR  PUBLIC COMMENT YET TO COME FOR  NOW. MANAGER. THAT YOU WANT OR  IT. OKAY, YEAH THAT WE HAVE TO  GET HER TO A MICROPHONE, I  THINK HAD.  IS ON NOT THAT I  SPEAK ALL RIGHT.  >> HERE. WARM. I HAVE TO SAY  THAT I THINK THIS IS  COMMUNITY. THEY WANT KNOW  THAT. AND I'M ABOUT SAY THAT I  AM WHAT MEMBER ON A.  >> AND  >> WORK WITH THE CITY. AS 2000  OR THE COMMISSIONERS.  >> AND THE MANAGER IS ALL  OTHERS ON THAT NOTE ARE. AREA  ARE YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE.  CITY IT HELP US. ARE AS THEY  GAVE US SOME LAND NOT HIM, YOU  KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT FOR I UP  TO. IT WAS A BUILDING ON SHOT  PLAYED READ.  NOW YOU KNOW MAKE ALL THIS A  SHORT WHILE.  >> MAYBE THEY WOULD STORAGE  BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT UP TO  BUILDING WHERE THE ART  MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE  THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. SO  THAT'S IT NEEDS IN ORDER TO  MOVE OUT. WE OPENED OUR DOORS  PORT ARTS CENTER IN 2007. I  WANT THANK YOU FOR HELPING  BUILDING AND SEAT WITH THE  SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE THIS  COMMUNITY.  WE HAVE CONTINUED TO BE.  >> JEWEL IN THE I THAT ABOUT.  >> WE CONTINUE OUR VALUABLE  SERVICE. PEOPLE ALL AGES IS  COMMUNITY. IT IS OUR HOPE THAT  WE CAN CONTINUE I LIKE SEE.  USER-FRIENDLY ARTISTIC  ACTIVITY. AND ALSO OUTREACH.  THANK WE WILL NEED HELP FROM  THE CITY AND I'M I ALL.  BECAUSE OF DAY WE WILL NEEDS.  I KNOW THAT ART I JUST WANT  THANK YOU THAT.  AND MANAGERS HAVE GIVEN US  OVER THE NEXT YEARS. RIGHT  THAT YOU CONTINUE OR AND OUR  MISSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  THANK YOU MISS THE SIDE.  >> MANAGE TO HAVE ANYTHING  ELSE BEFORE WE GOT ON THAT  COMMISSION.  >> THINK MEMBER I THIS WEST  MAY HAVE SAID IT BEST WE  COULD. SHE REFERENCED THE FACT  THAT YOU KNOW HELPFUL PROVIDE  SORT OF THAT GAP BETWEEN WHAT  THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEED AND  HOW TO GET THERE IS A VALUE  THAT WE CAN HELP THEM GET  THERE WITH YOUR DIRECTION THAT  BELIEVE IT. WE HAVE SHOWN THAT  SUPPORT THE ARTS THAT YOU KNOW  NONPROFITS IN GENERAL AND  THAT'S NOT YOU'RE NOT NUMBER  SAY TO THAT WE HAD WITH 13  THIS COW. THE FIRST REQUEST  THAT WAS HAS MORE DO BELIEVE  THAT THAT WE HAVE A BIT OF  THAT PEOPLE WITH THAT  SCHEDULE. JUST SO YOU IF WE  CAN BUT THE OVERHEAD BACK UP  THIS THOUGH COMPUTER RIGHT  NOW, RIGHT IF YOU KNOW IS  WHERE THE KURDS ARE SERIOUS  WITH WRIT IS. THE FOOTPRINT  THAT THEY HAVE. NOW WE'VE  TALKED ABOUT THIS PROPERTY  SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE WE'VE  TALKED ABOUT IT FROM  DEVELOPING TO YOU KNOW OF A  BUSINESS AREA WE TALKED ABOUT  THE PARKS AND BUILDING THAT TO  GO THERE LIMITS MAINTENANCE  AND. MEAN IS ITEMS WE'VE GOT  ABOUT I THINK SOME OF THE  NOTHING TO PROTECT THE FIELD  WE TALK ABOUT HOW THEY WERE  GOING THERE. I MEAN WE'VE  TALKED ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. A  LOT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT  ALLOWING KEEP THAT FOOTPRINT  IS GOING TO DISTURB ANYTHING  THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE  PARKING THIS SPREAD ACROSS  FROM THERE WE HAVE TALKED  ABOUT BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT  THE MEDIA PARKING SOLUTION FOR  WHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW IS  JUST NOT ENOUGH SO WE WOULD WE  WOULD RESPECTFULLY SAY WE'RE  LOOKING FOR THE DIRECTIVE TEEN  TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM  TO SORT OF FIGURE IT OUT. I  DIDN'T HEAR COUGHING THERE.  BUT I'M ASSUMING AND BELIEVING  THAT. THEY EITHER HAPPEN RAY  THE FUN FOR THE BUILDING THAT  WE'RE TALKING AND THAT  TIMELINE THAT CAUSE WE CAN  MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL MAKE  SURE IT COINCIDES WITH THE  CITY TOO. AND WILL THE UPDATE  BRING BACK TO THE COMMISSION  PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP  OUR CENTER. HERE IN THE CITY  AS WELL AS THE I THOUGHT  THEY'RE MEANT HAPPY TO HELP  REQUESTED ALONG WITH B OR OR  ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.  >> ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL START  WITH QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER  BRIDGE. YEAH, THIS IS YOU  ANSWERED THE ONE ABOUT THE  COMPLEX ALREADY CITY MANAGER  AND THE ONLY THING THAT I THE  PRESENTATION WAS THEY WANTED  TO USE THAT MONDAY THROUGH  FRIDAY UP UNTIL ABOUT 05:00PM  THE WERE AT THE SCOUTS GIRL  SCOUTS OR WHATEVER WANTED TO  USE EVENTS THAT WOULD BE FINE.  BUT THEY ALSO MENTIONED IT THE  WEEK ENDS WITH VETERANS STOP  AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE  GOING FORWARD THAT EVERYTHING  IS SCHEDULED TO WEAR. IT IS  SCOUTS THAT THAT HAS THE  OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO USE  IT AND THE REASON I'M I'M  SAYING THAT BECAUSE THERE A  LOT OF BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS  PUT INTO THAT BUILDING BACK IN  THE DAY AND BY OUR CITIZENS  AND PARTICULARLY BUTTON WANT A  IT WAS REPACKAGED AND  EVERYTHING BY THEM. THE SCOUTS  THOSE GROUPS WITHIN THE CITY  WAS THEN GIVEN I BELIEVE TO  THE KIWANIS AND THEN PASSED ON  TO THE CHASE HERE THERE IS A  HISTORY AND THAT'S GOT A  HOUSE, NOT DENYING THE ART  CENTER WHATSOEVER I'M JUST  BRINGING THOSE BACKED UP  BECAUSE. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT FOR  THE AND THEY SHOULD HAVE  PRIORITY.  >> IF I WOULD GREATLY SHE SAID  THEY WILL BE SOILS ON THE  WEEKEND. THAT WOULD BE  ACCOMPLISHED AND I THINK THAT  A LITTLE THERE. THE BALL.  >> WE ARE ONLY PLANNING TO USE  ONLY ASKING TO USE THE SCOUT  HOUSE 10 TO 3. AND WE'RE  LOOKING TO WE'VE HAD SOME  COMMUNICATION NOT HAVE ANOTHER  OF ONLINE COMMUNICATION WITH  THEM ON NOVEMBER 1ST WITH THE  SCHOOL SYSTEMS BECAUSE THE  SCHOOLS DO ALLOW. OUTSIDE  ORGANIZATIONS TO USE SOME  SCHOOL FACILITIES AT NIGHT AND  ON THE WEEKEND. SO THAT'S WHAT  WE'RE LOOKING AT WE ARE NOT  GOING TO BE INTERFERING WITH  THE SCOUT PROGRAMS IN THE  AFTERNOON ON THE WEEKEND. ONLY  ASKING TO BE ABLE TO USE IT  DURING THE DAYTIME AND IF YOU  FIGHT LIKE 10:00AM TO 03:00PM  RIGHT AND I APPRECIATE THAT  I'M I'M TRYING TO GET THIS  YEAR I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE  THAT THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO  CONFLICTS I'M DOWN TO WHAT YOU  ALL NEED AND WHAT THE SCOUTS  AND WE HAD TO ASK ABOUT  MONSOON AND THE MORGAN CENTER  AND LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE  THERE'S SO MANY ACTIVITIES  THAT THE CITY HAS.  >> WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT'S NOT  FEASIBLE FOR US TO WORK WITH.  SO THAT'S WHY THE SCOUT HOUSE  THAT TIME FOR EVERYTHING IN  THAT PARTICULAR TIME FRAME. OF  THE PROBLEMS I MENTIONED THE  HOME SCHOOL PROGRAM, THE LEVIN  CENTER BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE A  CLASS THAT WE HAVE MORNING AND  SCHEDULE SOME DAYTIME ADULT  CLASSES, LOOKING AT THE EVEN  IN THE WEEKEND WE WOULD LOOK  FOR THE RESOURCES. BUT THERE'S  THERE'S PLENTY OF  OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO GO TO  AREAS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS  THAT WAS SO EXCITED WAS TO BE  ABLE DO SOME OUTREACH TO THE  SARASOTA SCHOOLS SEE HOW WE  CAN DO THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE  THIS TEMPORARY. A SHORTER TIME  FRAME AS POSSIBLE. AND WE WILL  BE REACHING OUT TO THE  COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE  COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT  WE'RE HERE FOR THEM, BUT WE  NEED THEIR SUPPORT AND WE'RE  LOOKING AT COMING UP WITH A  GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN. BUT  IDEALLY WILL LAUNCH IN  NOVEMBER. SO WE CAN GO AHEAD  AND START GETTING SOME  CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE  COMMUNITY WHAT WE KNOW THAT WE  HAVE A PLACE TO BEING GO BACK  TO IF THE COMMISSION SAYS YES  YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT  FOOTPRINT THEN WE HAVE AN  OPPORTUNITY TO GET GRANTS TO  GO TO A LACK OF FUSS BECAUSE  IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO  TO IT'S NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO  GET PEOPLE TO MAKE DONATIONS  OUR PLACE BUT YOU'VE GOT TO GO  SOMEPLACE PLAN. THAT'S WHY  IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO  GET A COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY  THAT YES YOU CAN GO BACK TO  THAT SAME FOOTPRINT AND THEN  WE CAN THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT  THIS IS WHERE WE NEED SOME  DONATIONS SO WE DON'T HAVE WE  DO HAVE TO PUT DIFFERENT  PLACES. WE DO NOT HAVE A  CONTRACT WITH MARTIN BUILDING  AT THIS TIME WE HAVE BEEN IN  CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. BUT  THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.  CONSTRUCTION THAT'S OPEN RIGHT  NOW I JUST WANT TO BUILD SEE  WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IT'S  NOT LIKE WE'VE SAT AROUND AND  SAY YOU KNOW WE WANT THE  CITY'S TO SOLVE THIS HUGE FOR  WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN  FIND A SOLUTION AND IT'S GOING  TO MAKE YOU PROUD. THE NORTH  BUT ARTS CENTER AND SO WE CAN  CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE  PROGRAMS BECAUSE. IF YOU TALK  TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE  SENIORS. SOME OF THOSE WHO ARE  VETERANS. MAYBE EVEN SOME OF  THE YOUTH YOU FIND OUT HOW  IMPORTANT. HE'S BEEN TO THEIR  LIFE TO BE A PART OF THE  EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT THEY  GET THE ART CENTER. OKAY.  >> THANK YOU SO WE BUT IT'S  MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 10 TO 3  IS WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE  LOOKING FOR THAT LIST THE  QUESTION BISON.  >> OKAY OKAY NOW I STILL GOT A  COUPLE QUESTIONS YEAH. YEAH,  COUGH ACTOR YOU'VE ALREADY  TALKED ABOUT THAT DOING  FUND-RAISERS AND WITH THAT  CALL FACTOR FOR THE BUILDING  BE SOLELY ON THE ART CENTER.  THE REASON I ASK THAT MY I  APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC  COMMENTERS AND I KNOW YOU'RE  IN A RUSH. I KNOW YOU WANT TO  GET WHATEVER YOU CAN AS A  BUILDING UP THERE. BUT IF YOU  WENT AND GOT THIS HUGE I WOULD  NOT STOP THERE. I WOULD LOOK  AT THE FUTURE FOR MAYBE 10  YEARS DOWN THE ROAD YOU HAVE  TO REPLACE IT WITH STONE AND  MORTAR AND EVERYTHING TO MAKE  IT MORE PERMANENT RATHER JUST  SAYING OKAY WE'VE MADE IT INTO  THIS SPOT. BUT OVER THE YEARS  WE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK 10  YEARS FROM NOW AND SAY HEY  WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS ALL OVER  AGAIN. IF WE DO GRANTED  PERMISSION FOR THE LAND AND  EVERYTHING I JUST WANTED YOU  TO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHERE IT  COULD BE AN ONGOING SOLUTION  MOVING AND AS THINGS GET  BETTER THEY GET BETTER TOO SO  YOU KNOW I LOOK FORWARD TO  SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO FOR YOU  THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I I THANK  YOU COMMISSIONER.  >> VICE MAYOR, YOU KNOW MY  QUESTIONS FIRST STEP WILL  APPRECIATE AS AS STAFF SAID  THERE'S MYRIAD OF  CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO  WITH THIS PROPERTY. ON THE  OTHER SIDE IN ORDER FOR THE  ARTS CENTER TO BE ABLE TO OUT  FIND THE FUNDS TO BUILD THE  BUILDING AND AND ESTABLISH A  PERMANENT SEE A NEED TO KNOW  THAT THEY HAVE A HOME THEY UP  THE SLANT THAT THEY CAN BUILD  ON AND THAT IS ON THE AND THAT  IS THEIR PROJECT CITIES  PROJECT. WE APPRECIATE THAT MY  ONLY QUESTION TO THE CITY IS  THIS IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM  GOING INTO EFFECT. WHATEVER  PLANS OR POTENTIAL PLANS. THE  CITY MAY HAVE WITH REGARD TO  THE OVERALL DALLAS WHITE AREA  AND THAT WHOLE AREA I MEAN IT  WON'T COME OUT THERE'S A LOT  OF SPACE ADJACENT TO IT. IF WE  WERE TO MAKE THE COMMITMENT  THE CITY. A DEDICATED THIS  LAND TO THE ARTS CENTER. ARE  WE GOING ONE INTO A PROBLEM. 2  YEARS 3 YEARS 5 YEARS DOWN THE  ROAD WHERE IT'S WE'RE GOING TO  HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF WHAT  WE MAY WANT TO DO WITH THAT  PROPERTY. THAT'S MY ONLY  CONCERN HERE YOU KNOW IT'S  PART OF A LARGER PARTIAL AND A  LARGER PART. YEAH, THANK YOU  VICE MAYOR SO MUCH THAT THAT  I.  >> SAID I DON'T BELIEVE THAT  IT DOES I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S  AN UP LAY IN THERE TO TAKE  CARE OF THE I MEAN THERE'S  WHERE I THINK IT'S RIGHT NOW  AND THAT DO. IT IS ONLY GOING  TO SORT OF HOPE TO GET BETTER  IMPROVE ITSELF WITH THE  SERVICES THAT WE WILL PUT  THERE. BUT BUT CLEARLY THAT  WAS IF WE GO BACK TO THE POINT  STARTED THE CONVERSATION.  BURROUGHS. THE CONVERSATION  THAT WE HAD ITS ALLURE TO COME  IN DEVELOPMENT BUT A BUILDING  THERE IT WAS ALWAYS WE'RE  GOING TO LOOK OUT TO SEE IF  THEY COULD PUT THE ICING ON  THE FIRST FLOOR BECAUSE NO ONE  FIND THE DISPLAY THE ART  CENTER FOR BEING HERE. NOW  OVER THE COURSE OF THE TIME AT  ME EXPLORE PATHWAY AND OTHER  PATHWAYS STILL ITS CORE YOU  MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING YOU  BACK SOME PLANS ABOUT WHAT THE  PROPERTY WILL LOOK LIKE IT  WILL GIVE YOU A SENSE OF COMB  IS UNDERSTANDING THAT OKAY IT  WON'T DISRUPT OR MAYBE IT WILL  AND HOW DO WE FIX IT FROM  THERE. BUT THAT SHOULD KEEP  EVOLVING THAT WE'VE  CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE HOW  WE WANT TO WIN THERE IT DOES  SOME. CREATIVE THIS WITH THE  FOOTPRINT THAT IS CURRENTLY ON  THAT SITE.  >> BECAUSE I AM SUPPORTIVE OF  THE CITY THAT A CANING THIS  PIECE PROPERTY SO THAT THEY  CAN MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW HOW  I FEEL I WAS ON YOUR BOARD I  CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE ART  CENTER AND I THINK THE BOOTS  SENATE TOWARDS THIS  ORGANIZATION DO WE NEED TO  CONSIDER ANY TIME FRAMES FROM  THE YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT  OPEN-ENDED SITUATION FOR THE  CITY BECAUSE. YOU KNOW  FUNDRAISING TAKES TIME  ESTABLISHING YOU KNOW AND AND.  RESOURCES IT TAKES TO PUT UP A  FACILITY AND GET OPERATIONAL  IF 2, 3, 4, YEARS FROM NOW.  THIS HASN'T PROGRESSED. WELL,  MEAN. YOU KNOW HOW DO WE HOW  DO WE CONDITION AND WITHOUT.  WITH WITHOUT RESTRICTING OR  CONSTRICTING WE'RE MAKING IT  DIFFICULT FOR THE ARTS CENTER  TO GO ABOUT RAISING THE FUNDS  I DON'T I DON'T WANT THEIR  HEAD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN  GOING TO FEEL PRESSURED. BUT  AT THE SAME TIME I WANT THE  CITY TO BE HOME IN A IN A  ENDING. I WANT RUSH IT.  >> RECORD BUT SAY IS I WANT  MAKE  >> SURE THAT WE HAVE TO THIS  IS A I DON'T WANT JUST SIT  HERE AND SAY OK NOW THAT DO IT  NEXT THAT WE SHOULD GO BACK TO  YOU IS. WE NEED TO HAVE LOSE  OUT COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE  PROPOSED HALFWAY BOARD THAT  PLAN LOOK LIKE SO IS SOME OF  THOSE QUESTIONS TODAY IT WAS  ABOUT.  >> SORT OF GETTING EVERY ONE  OF THE SAME AGE YOU ON THE  PAGE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE  NOT ONLY HELP THE ART CENTER.  BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF  CONSISTENCY THAT WE HELP OUR  I'M NOT A PROBLEM THAT HAS TO  RECOGNIZED AS WELL. IT DOESN'T  GO WHAT THEY NEED TO GET OUT  OF THE COVID CLOSET. WE ARE  VERY CLEAR THAT WE DID NOT  WANT TO DO X Y OR Z TO HELP WE  STUCK TO THAT BASED ON THE  DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GIVEN  WHAT WE WERE TOLD. SO WE NEED  TO BIGGER SOME OF THOSE THINGS  OUT AND SEE WHAT THE ASK IS  COMING BACK TO THE CITY. IF  YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCOUT  HOUSE WHERE THE COST THAT YOU  CHARGE RENT HOUSE. DO YOU WANT  TO BOW THAT CHARGE ON THIS  PARTICULAR BECAUSE TODAY THE  WAY THE RULES WERE YOU WOULD  BUT AS WE KNOW THAT IT TOOK  BECAUSE YOU ARE COMING BACK  LEASE AGREEMENTS AND HOW WE  WANT TO GET THAT CONSISTENT IN  IDEALLY THAT SOME SORT OF  FINANCIAL. I'M REALLY FOR OUR  NONPROFITS THEN YOU KNOW MAYBE  THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT SAME  CONVERSATION. BUT I JUST WANT  TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY  CONSISTENT FOR PROFIT THE  BOARD I THINK THAT WE DO THAT  WHILE HELPING THIS ONE  PARTICULAR ASSET TO THE CITY  SURVIVE AND THRIVE.  >> IT'S GOOD FOR ME ARE OKAY,  THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LANGDON  THANK YOU MADAM  >> I ALSO NOT TO BE TOO  REPETITIVE I REALLY VALUE ALL  OF THE WORK THAT THE ART  CENTER DOES AND YOU BRING AND  ENERGY AND YOU NEED TO THE  CITY THAT IS TRULY REMARKABLE.  BUT I AM A DOLLARS AND CENTS  KIND OF DOW CAN'T HELP BUT  THAT'S I AM AND AND.  >> THE.  >> INFORMATION THAT AT SOME  POINT THE BUILDING WOULD NO  LONGER BE AVAILABLE. IT'S NOT  NEW NEWS. SO YOU GUYS HAVE  KNOWN FOR YEARS. BRYANT. IF I  MAY ASKED AN UPDATE ON YOUR  FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES BECAUSE  I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN  FUNDRAISING FOR A WHILE RIGHT.  NO. YEAH I HATE COMING AFTER  VICE MAYOR BECAUSE I I THINK  AT 6 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.  WE DO IN MIND NOW WE DON'T  REALLY TRY TO DO JUST SORT OF  HAPPENS AND AND I'M FEELING  SAME THING I I ECHO CITY  MANAGER PRESSURE CAN BE A GOOD  THING. IT REALLY MOTIVATES AND  GETS US GOING. AND SO I'M I'M  NOT GONNA WORK DETAILS BUT  WHATEVER WE DO NEEDS TO BE  FAIR AND EQUITABLE. IF  CHARGING OTHER NONPROFITS TO  USE SPACE THEN I THINK THE ART  CENTER NEEDS TO.  >> THE CHARGE AND I COME AS  WAY TO USE SPACE AND I'M  REFERENCING THE SCOUT HOUSE.  ALSO RELATIVE TO THE SCOUT  HOUSE WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS  SCOUTS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS  WHO HAVE USED THAT SPACE FOR A  LONG TIME. SO I JUST WANT TO  MAKE SURE THAT ANY  ORGANIZATION. THAT. HAS USED  THE SPACE IN THE PAST IS  DISADVANTAGE BY THIS AGREEMENT  AND IT SOUNDS REASONABLE 10 TO  OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS OPEN AT  NIGHT. I DON'T FORESEE A  PROBLEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE  SURE THAT NONE OF THE FOLKS  WHO HAVE RELIED ON SPACE. YET  BECAUSE OF ANY AGREEMENT. I'M  VERY OPEN TO A LAND UNDERSTAND  THAT TO DO FUNDRAISING TO MOVE  FORWARD.  >> YOU NEED TO HAVE A PLACE  WHERE THAT CAN HAPPEN. I WOULD  WANT A TIME LIMIT IT. AND I  WOULD WANT TO CONNECT IT TO  MAYBE FUNDRAISING GOALS. I  DON'T WANT TO SEE FOR ALL THE  BROUGHT UP. I WOULDN'T WANT TO  SEE THE CITY WALKED IN AND AND  AGREEMENT ARE IN RANGE MAN  THAT RESULTS AND ARE HAVING  THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN FOR A  5 YEARS FROM NOW SO. I WANTED  TO HAPPEN I I THINK THAT  LOCATION IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE  TO HAVE THE ART CENTER. AND  TALKING PUBLICLY ABOUT THAT  SPACE I'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING  COMMERCIAL WITH BECOMES AND  PART. SO RETAIL KIND OF AREA I  WE COULD DO SOMETHING REALLY  CREATIVE WITH BUT I DO WANT TO  SEE IT IF WE MAKE A COMMITMENT  AS A CITY. 2 ALLOW YOU TO  LEASE THE LAND I WANT TO SEE  SOME TIME LIMITS AND I'D LIKE  TO SEE THOSE TIED TO PROGRESS.  THAT THE ART CENTER IS MAKING  TOWARD BEING ABLE TO. CREATE  THEIR OWN HOME. ANYTHING ELSE.  NO I'M GOOD ALL RIGHT. THANK  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> DIDN'T WANT WEEK DIFFERENT  TIME TO TIME HAVE FUNDRAISERS  FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS. I DID  WANT YOU TO KNOW  ♪ THAT. WE HAVE A VERY SMALL  STAFF AND A VERY SMALL PORT SO  OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE  HAVE NOT HAD AS LARGE OF AND  RAISES AS WE HAD IN THE PAST.  I  ♪ DID WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE  DO HAVE. AT GULF COAST  COMMUNITY FOUNDATION A  BUILDING FUND. RIGHT NOW THAT  HAS A $100,000 IT. THAT'S NOT  NEARLY ENOUGH IS THAT YOU'RE  MARKED FOR THEY ARE THAT'S  THAT'S BASICALLY WE'VE BEEN  PUTTING MONEY INTO THAT IT'S  EARMARKED FOR THE FOR A  BUILDING OKAY AND SO WE  BASICALLY YOU KNOW WE CAN TAP  INTO THAT BUT THAT'S NOT RICH  BY YOU KNOW THE THING THAT GOT  DONE WORKING BASICALLY A  GRASSROOTS.  >> REACHING OUT TO THE  COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY'LL BE  ABLE TO MAKE THEY CAN MAKE MY  LARGER DONATION THEY CAN MAKE  SMALLER DONATIONS WE'RE  LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT THEY  COULD GO AHEAD AND IN ORDER TO  HELP THIS COMMUNITY AND HELP  THE NORTHWIND ARTS AND LIKE A  MONTHLY DONATION. THEY HELPED  BUILD SO THAT SOME YES, YES,  IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE'RE  WORKING ON WE'VE BEEN TALKING  ABOUT THAT AND I KNOW I HAVE  SOME MY BOARD MEMBERS THEY  IT'S NOT A GOOD TIME TO  FUNDRAISE. I DON'T IT'S NEVER  A GOOD BUT I DID GO ONLINE AND  I SAID IS THERE A GOOD TIME TO  DO FUNDRAISING. AND A CENT THE  4TH QUARTER OF THE HE'S THE  BEST TIME THAT NONPROFIT  ACTUALLY BRING IN 30 TO 40% OF  THEIR ANNUAL AND SO GETTING  BAY LAUNCH THAT NOVEMBER FOR  THOSE DEDUCTIONS FOR THAT'S  RIGHT AND SO THAT'S WE'RE  WORKING ON. AND SOMETIMES IT'S  SMALLER FUNDRAISERS ALSO, BUT  YES, IT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A  SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE IT'S  VERY HARD TO HAVE BIG  FUNDRAISING EVENT AND I IN THE  PAST WE DID HAVE A MUCH  LARGER. MEMBERSHIP VOLUNTEERS.  US ARE 18 DO YES WE WE ARE WE  REALIZED THE CHALLENGES THERE  AND ITS STAKE. ONE OF THE  REASONS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE DO  BETTER WITH REGARD TO  PHILANTHROPIST IS BECAUSE WE  DIDN'T OWN THE PROPERTY.  >> WE NEED YOU KNOW, AND WE WE  DIDN'T DIDN'T OWN THE  BUILDING.  >> SO JUST THANK AND ALSO THE  VISION WASN'T THERE EITHER NOW  >> YOU WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING A  PAIR IT OVER THE YEARS THEY  HAD A VISION.  >> THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE  TICKET SEE THE  >> AND THERE SEPTEMBER 28TH I  WOULD JUST SAY RESPONSE TO  THAT I WOULD BE THINKING LAND  LEASE NOT OF LAND GRANT. I  WOULD LIKE LAND  WE NEED TO BE FAIR AND AND WE  NEED TO TREAT.  >> NON PROFITS ARE WORRIED  THEY AND THEY ALL BRING  SOMETHING TO THIS COMMUNITY  THAT'S OF VALUE AND SO WE NEED  TO BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE AND  HOW WE TREAT EVERYBODY AND  THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS  WE'VE HAD BEEN ACTIONS WITH  KIWANIS AND LOVE WE WANT TO BE  ABLE TO HAVE THE FACILITIES SO  THAT.  >> WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE WITH  SOME MEATS MEETING SPACES  BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT  AVAILABLE RIGHT OK THANK  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> SO I AM NOT ARTSY KIND OF  IT'S NO SECRET THEY HAVE A  PROBLEM TRYING TO STICK PEOPLE  BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I  DON'T HAVE APPRECIATION FOR  THE ARTS. AND I DO VALUE WHAT  YOU ALL DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY  AND I DO KNOW THAT THE ART  CENTER HAS VERY SPECIAL PLACE  IN A LOT OF PEOPLE'S HEARTS.  YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S GREAT THAT  YOU HAVE THESE PROGRAMS FOR  THE KIDS AND THE ADULTS  VETERANS AND FOR LOVELAND AND  I GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT  YOU GUYS HELPED OFF.  >> SO WITH THAT SAID PLEASE.  >> UNDERSTAND THAT IN THIS  ROLE SEEMS A LITTLE BIT  DIFFERENT THAN WHAT DEBBIE  WHAT LIKE. AS A COMMISSIONER I  LIKE COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAID  HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IS A LITTLE  BIT DIFFERENTLY. I WENT BACK  TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY  SIGNED A 2012. AND THAT PULL  THOSE MINUTES. AND IN THOSE  MINUTES IT CLEARLY SAID BY A  FEW COMMISSION ON THAT NEED TO  LOOK FOR NEW BUILDING AND  START MOVING ON NEW BUILDING.  SO WHILE THIS IS THE KICK IN  THE PANTS. 2012 WAS 12 YEARS  AGO. AS COMMISSIONER LANGDON  HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A  DISAPPOINTMENT THAT  FUNDRAISING HAS UNTAPPED YES,  THERE IS THE VISION. YES, YOU  GUYS WANT TO DO THESE  GRANDIOSE THINGS BECAUSE OF  THIS KICK IN THE PANTS. BUT  SEPTEMBER 25 IS GOING TO BE  HERE IN A HEARTBEAT IT'S GOING  TO BE HERE IN THE BLINK.  >> SO.  >> I HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS.  NOT LOOKING BACK. BUT HISTORY  IS A VERY IMPORTANT TEACHER.  BUT TO LOOK FORWARD AND  UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING TO  HAPPEN AT THE SCOUT HOUSE. I  DON'T EVEN KNOW USES SCOUT  CAMPS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH  THE SCOUT HOUSE IS USED. YES,  YOU SAID THAT THE YOU'RE GOING  TO USE OF BETWEEN 10 3.  >> BUT HAS BEEN IN YOUR HEART  CENTER YOU HAVE YOUR ARTWORK  HANGING ON THE WALLS, YOU HAVE  YOUR ARTWORK YOU HAVE YOUR  CLASSROOMS, YOU HAVE THINGS  THAT ARE LIKE IN PROGRESS YOU  SHOWS AT ARTS CENTER. I'M  SORRY I HAVE NOT SEEN THE  LOGISTICS OF USING THE SCOUT  HOUSE IN THE DAY TIME FOR THE  ARTS CENTER AND THE SCOUTS IN  THE AFTERNOON AND EVENINGS AND  WEEKENDS. I WOULD HATE TO HAVE  THIS. POWER STRUGGLE OF THIS  IS IN YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT WHEN  THE KIDS ARE COMING IN AND  LOOKING AT SO I'M REALLY NEED  ♪ TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS.  OF WHEN  ♪ YOU'RE DONE IT 3 AND WE HAVE  THE SCOUTS COMING IN AT 5. IS  YOUR STUFF GOING TO BE LIKE  PROTECTED SHIELDED FROM  INQUIRING LITTLE CHILDREN.  >> THE ART WILL NOT HE LEFT  BEHIND. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE GALLERY  SHOWS. WE WILL NOT HAVE A  GALLERY WE WON'T HAVE A  BUILDING. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING  LOOK AT IS REACHING OUT TO  DIFFERENT BUSINESSES A CAMPUS  CHAIR MENTIONED WE HAVE HAD  OUR PUBLIC PLACES IN SEVERAL  DIFFERENT BUSINESSES. WE WILL  BE REACHING OUT TO BUSINESSES  IN ORDER ASK THEM INVITE THEM  TO HOST OUR MONTHLY GALLERY  SHOWS. WE'LL STILL REACH OUT  TO OUR ARTISTS AND SAY THIS IS  THE THING WITH THIS MONTH'S.  AND WORKED WITH DIFFERENT  BUSINESSES IN ORDER TO THE ARE  WE'RE AND HOST A GALA  RECEPTION THERE. SO WE ARE  LOOKING DIFFERENT WAYS NOT  JUST TO PROVIDE FOR CLASSES,  BUT ALSO TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE  GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE TO HAVE  GALLERY SHOWS HOW CAN CONTINUE  TO SUPPORT OUR ARTIST AI  DISPLAYING THEIR ARTWORK. SO  THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT  WE'RE THAT WE NEED THAT WE'RE  GOING TO BE WORKING NOT.  >> SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO  ADDRESS I'M SURE THAT AT THIS  POINT MAY NOT HAVE ALL THESE  ANSWERS BUT THESE ARE THINGS I  WOULD BE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS  SPRINT FUTURE FOR THE NEXT  CONVERSATION BECAUSE I BELIEVE  THIS IS NOT A ONE AND DONE  KIND OF CONVERSATION I THINK  THIS IS GOING TO BE HOT.  MULTIPLE CONVERSATION AND  POSSIBLY WORKSHOP IN OUR NEAR  FUTURE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS  IS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE  ART THAT'S IN PROGRESS, YOU  KNOW, I'M I'M SURE YOU HAVE  LIKE CLASS WHERE THEY COME IN  AND THEY DO SOMETHING FOR AN  HOUR OR SO AND THEN THEY COME  BACK THE NEXT WEEKEND.  >> CAN TELL YOU ARE AND ADULT  INSTRUCTED COME UP AND ADDRESS  THAT.  >> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND  WAYS THAT WE CONTINUE TO MAKE  SOME REVENUE IN THE INTERIM  BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A  BUILDING.  >> THE WELL.  >> THIS SAID BUILDING GETS  BUILT. AND SO ONE OF THE IDEAS  HERE THE THINGS THAT TAKE  PLACE AT THE ARTS CENTER. WE  HAVE CLASSES. WE HAVE THE  EXHIBIT.  >> THOSE THE MAIN REGULAR WAYS  THAT WE BRING IN.  >> WE ALSO HAVE A GIFT SHOP WE  WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE DURING  THAT TIME YOU KNOW WE'RE  LOSING SO MANY WAYS THAT WE  BRING  >> THE CLASSES ARE THE MOST  RELIABLE ONES WE CAN FIND A  WAY TO CONTINUE THEM. SO WE'RE  SAYING AND THE CLASS ONE  LOCATION. STUDENTS NEED IS  THERE WE TEACH THE CLASS. THEY  TAKE WORK HOME. WE DO THIS  ACTUALLY. I'M ON A SMALL PART  TIME BASIS HAVE PARTIES AT  LOCALES WE HAVE LESS IN SOME  TIME WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUSH  THAT MORE THAT'S JUST. A WAY  TO MAKE MONEY OTHER THAN  DONATIONS. YOU KNOW THAT'S.  REALLY OUR MAIN. WAY TO MAKE  MONEY SO IT'S THAT AND WE'RE  GOING TO BE PUSHING FOR DRY.  >> AND I THINK THIS ONE IS  MORE FOR CITY MANAGER AND  POSSIBLY PARKS AND IF YOU CAN  PUT UP BACK UP ON THAT SCREEN  THE OVERVIEW OF THE DALLAS  WHITE FACILITY I THANK YOU. I  SO.  >> IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL  FOR THE NEXT CONVERSATION  >> WE KNEW.  >> LIKE OVERLAY OF WHERE THE  PARK'S FACILITY IS GOING TO  GO. WHAT THE MULTIPURPOSE  FIELDS OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING  SOFTBALL FIELDS ARE SIDE AT  ONE POINT THEY WERE GOING  WE'RE  TO MULTIPURPOSE IS IT GOING  GO. IN A DIFFERENT AREA AND BE  EXPANDED NOW THAT THOSE OTHER  BUILDINGS ARE GONE THAT CENTER  THAT WAS ARE ALL BUT I LAST  TIME I WAS OVER THERE THERE  WAS A TRAILER, I'M NOT TOO  SURE THE PURPOSE OF THAT ONE  TRAILER AND THAT'S NOT FOR  TODAY'S CONVERSATION, BUT IT  WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO  HAVE OVERLAY OF WHAT WE KNOW  THOSE FUTURE PLANS ARE BECAUSE  WE HAVE CIP PROJECTS FOR THE  PARK MAINTENANCE FACILITY AND  THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS AND  THE PARK MAINTENANCE OPERATION  BUILDING COMPLEX. I WOULD  REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHERE  EXACTLY THAT'S ALL GOING FIT  ON HERE. AND WE CANNOT LEAVE  SITE WE HAVE THE UTILITIES  OPERATIONS THERE WHILE THE  UTILITIES BUILDING IS GOING  SO. IF WE WERE TO LEE'S OR DO  SOME KIND LAND I DON'T WANT  THE LAND IS BUNDLE UP LIKE IT  THERE ARE 2 PERMANENT.  >> OBJECTS THERE LIKE PIPES  AND THINGS IN THERE RIGHT  HERE. AND RIGHT YEAR THERE.  THINGS THAT.  >> I DON'T IMAGINE ARE GOING  TO JUST YOUR MAYBE I'M WRONG  YOU TALKING ABOUT.  >> THE THE OTHER THING IS IS  IS THE ART CENTER PLANNING TO  STAY IN JUST THE EXISTING  FOOTPRINT OR ARE THEY LOOKING  TO WANT TO EXPAND AND THESE  ARE ALL CONVERSATIONS THAT I  THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO  HAVE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU  HAD MENTIONED ABOUT WANTING TO  EXPAND THE PARKING ACROSS THE  STREET BUT THAT CAN'T HAPPEN  ANYTIME SOON UNTIL UTILITIES  BUILT. SO THERE'S A TIMELINE  THING HERE THAT WE NEED TO  REALLY FOCUS ON WITH UTILITIES  BUILDING PARKS, MAINTENANCE  AND OPERATIONS COMPLEX THE  FACILITIES MAINTENANCE  FACILITY. THE MULTIPURPOSE  FIELDS SO WE REALLY NEED TO  HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION AS  TO HOW DOES THIS ALL FIT  TOGETHER NOT TO MENTION WAY  FAR IN THE FUTURE OF THE  POSSIBILITY OF COMMERCIAL OR  SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT I  WITH THE PARKS MASTER PLAN  THAT IS UNDERWAY SUPPOSED TO  BE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. THIS  HAS TO ALL KIND OF INCLUDED.  AND IT WOULD BE REALLY.  INTERESTING TO SEE HOW ALL  THESE PIECES FIT INTO THIS  PUZZLE CALLED DALLAS WHITE  COMPLEX.  >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE  CONSTRUCTION ETA IS. HOW LONG  IS THE PLAN TO USE THE SCOUT  HOUSE IT. IS THE SCOUT HOUSE  REALLY THE BEST USE FOR THE  ARTS CENTER. I DON'T KNOW IF  THERE'S ANOTHER FACILITY  THAT'S A CITY-OWNED FACILITY  THAT WE CAN SO THAT YOU HAVE  MORE OF A PERMANENT LOCATION  AS OPPOSED TO BEING SO  FRAGMENTED BECAUSE BEING  FRAGMENTED MIGHT BE  COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. SO  QUESTIONS I HAVE LEFT BEFORE I  CAN REALLY TALK ABOUT HISTORY  ASKS. THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF  WHERE I'M AT AND I JUST I  APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION  AND I'M GLAD THAT THE ART  CENTER IS KIND OF BEING  FORWARD THINKING GETTING THAT  KICK IN THE PANTS BUT AT THE  SAME TIME SEPTEMBER 25 IS LESS  THAN A YEAR AWAY. SO WE REALLY  NEED TO STEP UP EVERYBODY'S  GAME, NOT JUST YOURS, BUT THE  CITY'S TO TRY AND GET THESE  ANSWERS AND GET TO SOME  SOLIDIFICATION FOR AGREEMENTS  AS TO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO  LOOK LIKE SO THOSE ARE MY  CONCERNS I WANTED TO SHARE  WITH BY NO MEANS AM I READY TO  MAKE ANY DECISIONS TODAY.  OKAY ALL RIGHT.  >> CITY MAN SHOULD YOU WANNA  SAY SOMETHING  >> THE BIZARRE NOT IT.  >> GOT TO JUST GO THROUGH THE  LIST HERE USING THE SCOUT  HOUSE 10 TO 3. I DON'T SEE A  PROBLEM WITH BUT WE DID TALK  ABOUT RENT HAVING TO BECAUSE  ANY OTHER GROUP BUT PAY RENT  ON THE BUILDING AND I WOULD  HAVE TO SAY THAT'S WOULD HAVE  TO BE DONE AND THAT HIGH  WINDS. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE VERY  GENEROUS IN OFFERING FREE  CLASSES, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU  ARE LOOKING TO RAISE MONEY AND  NOW YOU CAN IT WOULD HAVE  RENT. CAN'T BE THAT GENEROUS  KENNY WITH THAT. I INTO THE  HISTORY OF THE VENICE ART  CENTER WHICH WAS LIKE EARLY  60'S AND THEY HAD A VERY  AGGRESSIVE. BUILDING CAMPAIGNS  BECAUSE THE CITY OF VENICE. I  THINK GAVE THE MONEY I KNOW  THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT  THE BIG BUCKS ARE I I KNOW  THAT BUT THEY HAD A LOT OF  SUPPORT AND ALSO BEFORE  NORTHPARK CENTER CAME ALONG AS  THIS WAS WHEN IT PORT ARE  KILLED IF ANYBODY YOU REMEMBER  THAT. A MILLION HAVE PASSES  FOR KIDS THAT I TOOK MY SON TO  THE VENICE ART CENTER THERE  AND YOU PAY FOR ALL THOSE  CLASSES AND AND THEY WEREN'T  CHEAP, BUT THEY WERE GREAT  CLASSES AND THAT'S HOW  GENERATED THEY ALSO HAD A  LITTLE CAFE IN THERE THAT YOU  WERE ABLE TO BUY FOOD SO YOU  HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT YOUR  SOURCES OF REVENUE SO I KNOW  YOU SAID YOU WENT TO THE I'VE  BEEN THERE MYSELF GIVING  PROGRAMS AGAIN IT'S NICE TO DO  THINGS FOR FREE, BUT WHEN  YOU'RE LOOKING AT WANTING TO  BUILD SOMETHING YOU KIND OF  HAVE TO START SAYING THIS IS  THE VALUE OF OUR WHAT WE'RE  OFFERING U N. YOU KNOW PAY  FOR. I STILL FEEL RE-ELECTED  SOMETIMES IN ASKING PEOPLE FOR  MONEY SAYING IN INSTANCE, YOU  HAVE TO. SO THE PROBLEM WITH  USING THE SCOUT HOUSE 10 TO 3.  IT WON'T BE USED ON THE  WEEKENDS BY SO THAT'S THAT'S  THAT THE NUMBER TO ASK YOU HAD  WAS. YOU WANT TO USE THAT SAME  PATH THAT FOOTPRINT THERE. I  MY QUESTION WAS THERE WOULD  HAVE TO BE A TIMELINE BUILDING  FUN TO COME TO. THIS IS WHAT  WE THIS IS WHAT WE NEED AND  IT'S GOING TO BE AN X NUMBER  OF YEARS OR WHATEVER BECAUSE  JUST GOING TO GO ON FOREVER.  KNOW THAT WE TALK ABOUT THERE  HAVE BEEN PLANS FOR THE DALLAS  WHITE PARK COMPLEX BUT THEY'VE  BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR  EVER I'M SORRY AND I THINK  IT'S STILL THE SAME AS IT  LOOKS LIKE IN YOUR 30  SOMETHING YEARS AGO SO IF THIS  IS GOING TO BREATHE SOME NEW  LIFE INTO THAT AREA AND  GENERATE INTEREST I THINK IT'S  A GREAT I IT IT'S A GREAT IDEA  KEEP IT IN THE IN THE SAME  PLACE. AND THE 3RD THING  YOU'RE ASKING FOR. SO ACROSS  THE STREET FOR PARKING YEAH I  THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A  NO-BRAINER BECAUSE THEIR  PARKING ON THAT FIELD ANYWAY,  AND MAKING A MESS OUT OF IT  SO. THAT AREA SO HAS BEEN NOT  HAD A LOT OF PARKING BUT I  THINK THE FIRST 2 ARE BIG ASKS  AND A HALF HAVE TO BE  ADDRESSED. THAT SO. I THINK  COVERAGE MINE. YOU USING IT.  THE THE FOLLOW UP HERE  SHORTEST ONE YEAH VICE-MAYOR  >> THE BUSINESS OF. BUILDING  AN ART CENTER BUSINESS OF THE  ART CENTER NOT THE COMMISSION.  WE'VE SPENT AN HOUR AND 15  MINUTES ON THE SUBJECT I WOULD  LIKE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE YOU  KNOW.  >> BASICALLY INSTRUCTOR DIRECT  STAFF TO WAR WITH THE ART  CENTER AND BRING BACK A SOME  DETAILS ALONG WITH SOME  DOCUMENTATION PREPS WE SEE  SCOUT HOUSE AS WELL AS  EXISTING PARCEL OF THE ART  SITS ON A YOU KNOW AS MY  FELLOW, YOU THAT WOULD BE MY  MOTION. I'M LOOKING FOR A  SECOND.  >> I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF  INFORMATION NEEDS COME BACK  BEFORE WE COME TO SECOND FOR  DISCUSSION. AND I'LL TELL YOU  WHAT I'M SORT OF ON THE SAME  WAVELENGTH. I'M A LITTLE OKAY  WITH THE USE OF THIS KIND OF  HAVE 2 CONDITIONS A TIME WHEN  THAT LET'S MAYBE IT'S  SEPTEMBER 2025 SO WE KIND OF  BOND DEBT. AND THAT IT WILL BE  A RENTAL AGREEMENT THAT'S  CONSISTENT. I THINK THIS AND  IT'S SORT OF REITERATED WHAT  FIRST STATE TO BRING IT BACK  FORGIVENESS  >> RIGHT.  >> CAN I ASK YOU TO RESTATE  THE MOTION THERE'S MOTION BUT  THERE WERE STAFF TO WANT TO  HEAR WHAT HE WHAT HE  >> TO DIRECT STAFF TO WORK  WITH ARTS CENTER AND BRING  BACK DETAILS AND DOCUMENTATION  TO LEASE THE SCOUT HOUSE AS  WELL AS THESE THAT EXISTING  ART CENTER.  >> THE EXISTING LAND THE  >> CAN SAY THAT SLOWER REALLY  SEPARATE BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG  ONE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE  THAT THE MOTION CLEAR AND  CONCISE AS POSSIBLE.  >> TO DIRECT STAFF TO WORK  WITH THE ART CENTER AND BRING  BACK DETAILS AND DOCUMENTATION  TO LEASE THE SCOUT HOUSE AS  WELL AS THE EXISTING LAND THE  ART CENTER SITS ON.  >> AND I SECONDED THAT AND MY  SECOND RIGHT  >> THAT'S THE MOTION WE HAVE A  SECOND DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER  DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. IF  NOT LET'S VOTE ON THAT.  AND  THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU  VICE MAYOR FOR MAKING THAT AND  GETTING THAT IS YOU ANYTHING  ELSE.  >> NOW LET ME THAT'S WHAT  WE'RE LOOKING WE WILL GIVE IT  TO WARD THIS WEST  >> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN  WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC  OVERLAP. IF YOU'RE READY TO  HEAR YES.  >> BUT I STILL HAVE MISSION  ARE DOWN AND COMMISSIONER  LANGDON YOU'RE DONE WITH THAT.  GET LOST. YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE  PUBLIC COMMENT. OH SORRY  READING THEM IN IF YOU'RE JUST  PAST. MOST OF FOR A STEREO.  WE'RE HURTING. ALL RIGHT  RICHARD A OKAY YOU GET. ALL  RIGHT, OK BEST.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE SOME  ACTION ON THAT ONE OF MY  FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, THANK  WANT TO MOVE YOU KNOW THAT WE  HAVE A PRESENTATION NEXT.  >> MOVING ON ITEM THANK YOU  MEMBERS OF THE ART CENTER. AND  NUMBER 6 IS PRESENTATION OF  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT  PERFORMANCE DASHBOARDS CITY  MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> I DIDN'T IN THIS ARE I  THINK WE'RE SO THIS  PRESENTATION OF OUR CITIES.  CITY OF HAVE BOARDS IS A  OVERVIEW EVEN GRIFFIN WHO  PANEL INSIDER WITH FINANCE  GOING TO GIVE YOU A UPDATE ON  TO THE NUMBER FIGURES FROM OUR  YEAR THIS IS INFORMATION IS ON  OUR WEBSITE CREATED IT MAYBE A  YEAR OR SO AGO THAT YOU HAVE  TO GO NOW IN. THIS IS SUCH A  VALUABLE PIECE OF INFORMATION  THAT DATA DRIVEN THAT WE  BORROW FROM ONE OF OUR. LOCAL  ISABELLA ECOLOGY, BUT IT'S A  LOT OF INFORMATION A GOOD  INFORMATION SO WE JUST WANT TO  GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF  IT. SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE  RELEVANCE AND VALUE OF IT A 2  OUT THE YEAR. ALSO RISK OF  THEM.  >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS  I CAN'T GRIFFIN PERFORMANCE  AND ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICER.  I'M EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU  ARE PERFORMANCE DASHBOARDS IN  SOME UPDATES THAT WE'VE MADE  TO THEM WITHIN THE PAST FEW  MONTHS. SO I WILL GET STARTED.  THE FIRST PART OF LIKE TO  COVER IS THE PURPOSE OF THESE  DASHBOARDS SO THERE TO PROVIDE  TIMELY ACCURATE COMPREHENSIBLE  DATA TO BOTH THE PUBLIC AND  CITY LEADERSHIP ON OUR  PROGRESS TOWARDS THE  ESTABLISHED GOALS AND  PERFORMANCE METRICS AND  TARGETS THAT WE SET FOR  OURSELVES. THEY IMPROVE AND  HIGHLIGHT THE CITY'S  COMMITMENT TO BEING  TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE.  THEY ALSO TRANSITION TO THE  CITY FROM HAVING STATIC DATA  AVAILABLE ON THE WEB SITE IN  PDF FORMAT TO AN INTERACTIVE  DASHBOARD THAT YOU CAN KIND OF  EXPLORING DIG A LITTLE BIT  DEEPER INTO WHAT WE HAVE OUT  THERE. IT ALSO ALIGNS OUR  PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND  OUTPUT MEASURES WITH OUR CORE  SERVICE AREAS. SO TO START  WITH OUR DEPARTMENTAL  PERFORMANCE DASHBOARDS THIS IS  THE INFORMATION THAT  HISTORICALLY IN A PDF FORMAT  THAT WAS UPDATED MONTHLY AND  PROVIDED ON THE CITY WEBSITE  UNDER MONTHLY REPORTS.  TRANSITION TO OUR PUBLIC  FACING DASHBOARDS IN 2022. AND  YOU'LL FIND THAT THROUGHOUT  THE DASHBOARDS THERE'S VARYING  FREQUENCIES ON INFORMATION  THAT WILL FINE SO THERE'S  MONTHLY QUARTERLY AND ANNUAL  DATA MOST OF OUR INFORMATION  IS REPORTED ON THE FISCAL YEAR  QUARTERS IN ANNUALLY. SO YOU  WON'T SEE VERY MANY CALENDAR  YEAR. INFORMATION. AND THEN WE  CONTINUOUSLY REVIEW AND UPDATE  DATA AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES  AS IMPROVE BUSINESS PROCESSES  AND FIND NEW BEST PRACTICES IN  THE FIELDS WITH OUR RESPECTIVE  DEPARTMENTS. SO THE STRATEGIC  PLAN KILLERS ARE THE NEWEST  SECTION OF THE PERFORMANCE  DASHBOARDS AND THEY ARE GOING  TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE  INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ON  OUR KEY INDICATORS AND THE  PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING TOWARDS  THOSE PRIORITIES AND PROGRAMS  AND INITIATIVES AND SET OUT IN  THE STRATEGIC VISION PLANT.  THE DATA ON THESE DASHBOARDS  COMES FROM A VERY VARIETY OF  SOURCES. SO YOU HAVE INTERNAL  DATA COLLECTION A LOT OF THOSE  ARE ALREADY PROVIDED HONOR  DEPARTMENT PAGES WE ALSO  UTILIZE CENSUS DATA NATIONAL  COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS AND  VARIOUS OTHER RESOURCES THAT  DEPARTMENTS, HALF. AND THESE  STATUSES AND UPDATES ARE BEING  INCLUDED AS DATA BECOMES  AVAILABLE BECAUSE THERE ARE A  LOT OF DATA SOURCES. WE ARE  TAKING THE TIME TO DIG INTO  THEM AND SEE WHAT IS RELIABLE  AND CONSISTENT THAT WE CAN  REPORT ON. SO NOW I WOULD LIKE  TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF  DEMONSTRATION ON HOW TO ACCESS  THESE DASHBOARDS AND HOW YOU  CAN INTERACT WITH THE DATA  BECAUSE AS WE'VE GONE LIVE  WITH THEM. THE PROGRAM WE USE  HAS INCREASED FUNCTIONALITY SO  YOU CAN REALLY EXAMINE IT.  CLOSELY AND BEGIN WHERE YOU'D  LIKE TO SEE. SO YOU CAN GO  ANYTIME ON THE CITY WEBSITE  AT NORTH PORT FL DOT GOV SLASH  TRANSPARENCY. FOR YOU TO OUR  TRANSPARENCY PAGE AND THEN  YOU'D LIKE TO GO TO  PERFORMANCE DASHBOARDS. SO  THIS IS THE LANDING PAGE FOR  YOUR DEPARTMENT, SPECIFIC  DASHBOARDS SO EACH DEPARTMENT  OR DIVISION THAT HAS A  DASHBOARD AVAILABLE ON THIS  LANDING PAGE. AND YOU CAN  CLICK ON ANY OF THE IMAGES OR  USE THE DROP DOWN AT THE TOP  TO SELECT THE ONE THAT YOU'D  LIKE TO BE YOU. SO AL GOING  SHOW YOU JUST QUICKLY THE  COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION  DASHBOARD. THEY'RE ALL SET UP  PRETTY MUCH THE SAME FORMAT.  YOU HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE  DEPARTMENT DIVISION AND THEN  THE GOAL THAT THEY'VE SO THIS  GOAL IS TO LEAD THE CITY'S  FIRST OFFER OPPORTUNITIES FOR  RESIDENTS TO CONNECT WITH  THEIR CITY AND OTHER  RESIDENTS. IT GOT INFORMATION  HERE ON HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE  DOWNLOADED NORTH REPORT APP AS  WELL AS YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE  ARE AT WITH OUR TARGET. IF  THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED  PERFORMANCE TARGET FOR METRIC  YOU'LL SEE EITHER A GREEN  YELLOW OR RED ICON AND IT WILL  GIVE YOU THE BAR HERE OF WHERE  WE SIT. AND THEN IF YOU SCROLL  DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER  YOU'LL SEE A SECOND ONE OF  INCREASING THE NUMBER OF  SERVICE TO GET SUBMITTED  THROUGH THE NORTH FOR 4 AT.  THIS ONE YOU'LL SEE IT'S GREEN  WE'VE HAD 3,147 IN FISCAL YEAR  2024. ANY OF THESE GRAPHS. IF  YOU'D LIKE TO INTERACT WITH  THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE IF YOU  CLICK ON IT. IT WILL BRING YOU  TO A NEW PAGE. AND YOU CAN SEE  SPECIFICALLY EACH ONE MONTH TO  MONTH. WE'RE YEAR TO YEAR  HOWEVER IT SET UP. YOU CAN  HOVER OVER IT AND SEE PERCENT  CHANGE FROM MONTH TO MONTH.  AND THEN ALSO. LOOKING UP AT  THE TOP. YOU CAN DO THE FISCAL  YEAR AND SEE THE CHANGES YEAR  TO YEAR. SO REALLY LETS YOU  CUSTOMIZE WHAT YOU'RE VIEWING  AND THIS IS AVAILABLE FOR A  VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS. TO  SHOW YOU ONE SPECIFIC TO SOME  OUTPUT MEASURES SO THE NUMBER  OF WORK ORDERS OR WORK  COMPLETED, WE'LL GO TO THE  PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SO  AGAIN JUST GOING DOWN TO THAT  DROP DOWN MENU. SELECT PUBLIC  WORKS. IT'S COOL DOWN EACH  DIVISION HAS ITS OWN LANDING  PAGE NOW. ROAD AND DRAINAGE  DISTRICT HAS SOME GREAT  EXAMPLES OF THE WORK THEY DO  SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM AND  THROUGH THIS ONE YOU'LL SEE  BLUE IS GOALS. AND YELLOW WILL  MEASURES. SO THIS SHOWS A LOT  OF THE WORK THAT OUR PUBLIC  WORKS DEPARTMENT IS DOING ON A  MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIS. YOU CAN  SEE EACH ONE SHOWS THE LAST  METRIC IN THE DATA SET SO EACH  OF THESE ARE GOING TO SHOW  SEPTEMBER OF 2024. AND WE'LL  CLICK ON SWALES REHABILITATED  MONTHLY. HERE YOU CAN SEE HOW  MANY THEY'VE DONE EACH MONTH.  THE CHANGE FROM MONTH TO  MONTH. AND THEN IF YOU SCROLL  DOWN A LITTLE BIT YOU CAN SEE  RAW DATA AS WELL. THIS YOU CAN  EXPORT AND HAVE EXCEL SHEET IF  YOU CHOOSE TO OR YOU CAN JUST  DO IN THE GRAPH THAT'S ALREADY  PROVIDED FOR YOU. SO THOSE ARE  THE DEPARTMENT DASHBOARDS. THE  NEWEST SECTION WILL SHOW YOU  IS THE STRATEGIC VISION PLAN  WHICH IS UP HERE AT THE TOP AS  WELL. THE FIRST OPTION IS THE  LANDING PAGE. YOU HAVE THE  VISION MISSION IN  ORGANIZATIONAL VALUES THAT ARE  ESTABLISHED AND THE STRATEGIC  PLAN PILLARS EACH ONE HAS ITS  OWN PAGE. AND TO GIVE YOU A  QUICK OVERVIEW OF HOW THESE  ARE SET UP WILL THE SAFE  COMMUNITY PILLAR. WE HAVE THE  BRANDING THAT IT  COMMUNICATIONS HAS ESTABLISHED  FOR ALL OF THESE FOR SERVICE  AREAS HE PROJECTS YOUR  PRIORITIES WILL BE LISTED AND  THE RECOGNITION INITIATIVES  ARE NICE AND EACH INDICATOR  THAT IS TIED TO THAT PRIORITY.  AGAIN THESE ARE THE SAME WHERE  YOU CAN CLICK AND EXPLORE THE  MORE. I WILL MENTION THAT  FISCAL YEAR 2020 FOR WORSE ON  THE PROCESS OF GATHERING ALL  OF THE FINAL DATA ON THAT WAS  THE HURRICANES HAVE KIND OF  POSTPONED SOME REPORTING. SO  THOSE WILL BE UPDATED  HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK  OR SO BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT  INFORMATION START TO POPULATE  CAN THE FINAL NUMBERS. IF  THERE IS NOT DATA SET  AVAILABLE FOR AN INDICATOR.  WE'LL THE TEXT OF IN PROGRESS  COMPLETE OR NOT STARTED YET  WITH THE CALLER INDICATORS  WELL. SO THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR  DASHBOARDS AND HOW YOU CAN  ACCESS THEM INTERACT WITH THEM  FIND THEM. INCLUDES MY  DEMONSTRATION PRESENTATION.  THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR.  >> THINK PRETTY TREMENDOUS,  THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR  PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW. FOR  THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO  QUESTION THE TRANSPARENCY AND  THE INFORMATION THAT THIS CITY  MAKES UP FAILED TO ITS  CITIZENS. IF PEOPLE WERE TO  TRULY THAT EXISTS ON THE STASH  BOARDS. WOULD BLOW THEIR MIND  THERE IS LITERALLY ANYTHING  AND EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO THE  CITY GOVERNMENT OPERATES. LIKE  YOU SAY HOW WE ADDRESS HOW  MANY SWALES WE CAN WHAT WE DO  IT TRACKS EVERYTHING. I MEAN  IT I DON'T KNOW ANYWHERE ELSE  AND YOU KNOW I HAVEN'T EVER  TRY TO ACCESS OTHER CITIES  INFORMATION TO FIND OUT  WHETHER OR NOT ANYBODY ELSE  DOES THIS KIND STUFF IN SUCH  INCREDIBLE DETAIL, BUT. IT IS  BEYOND. MY ONLY QUESTION THAT  REALLY HAVE THIS ARE WE ABLE  TO ACTUALLY TRACK CLICKS ON  THE LANDING PAGES DO WE KNOW  MANY PEOPLE. ACCESS. EACH OF  THESE. SO WE CAN SEE WHETHER  OR NOT OUR CITIZENS ARE  ACTUALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF  FULLY INFORMATION THAT'S  AVAILABLE TO THEM.  >> I BELIEVE I CAN ACCIDENTS  AND SEE HOW MANY UNIQUE  VIEWERS COME TO THE PAGES I  DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TRACK THE  NUMBER OF CLICKS I BELIEVE ON  THE WEB SITE WE CAN TRACK HOW  MANY CLICKS ARE GENERATED FROM  THAT LEAK TO BRING THEM TO THE  PAGE BECAUSE IT'S NOT HOUSED  ON OUR WEB SERVER OUR WEB  PAGE. IT'S DIFFERENT PROGRAM.  BUT IT DOES GIVE YOU SOME  TRACKING ABILITIES SO I'LL BE  STARTING TO LOOK AT THAT AS  WE.  >> PROMOTED MORGAN AND THE  ONLY OTHER PERHAPS  RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT  YOU KNOW JUST LIKE WE HAVE  STARTED TO DO WITH SO MANY  THINGS LIKE OUR STORM WATER  MANAGEMENT. PROGRAMS AND AND  OTHER THINGS IS. YOU CAN BACK  AND SAY WELL IF PEOPLE WANT TO  KNOW THEY SHOULD FIGURE IT OUT  AND COME SEARCH AND FIND THIS  INFORMATION ON THE OTHER HAND  PERHAPS WE CAN FIND A WAY TO  DO SOME SORT OF PUBLIC  WORKSHOPS WERE DEMONSTRATIONS  WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT YOU KNOW BE  INTERESTED ENOUGH TO WANT TO  COME AND SEE WHAT WILL THIS  BECAUSE. IT IS I MEAN I CAN'T  THINK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW  OUR CITY OPERATES THAT YOU  CAN'T FIND IF YOU GO TO OUR  WEBSITE OR THE STASH BOARD SO  KUDOS TO EVERYBODY WHO WORKED  ON THE SPECIAL. THEY'RE  FANTASTIC. THANK YOU VERY  MUCH. COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU I MEAN I'VE NEVER  KNOWN ANY ORGANIZATION THAT  PROVIDES THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL.  AND IS SO OPEN ABOUT  PERFORMANCE WHERE WE'RE  HITTING THAT WHERE WHERE  MISSING AT. SO I I REALLY HAVE  TO GIVE YOU A LOT OF CREDIT.  MY 3RD QUESTION. AND I HATE  FOLLOWING 3RD QUESTION IS DO  WE HAVE DATA ON THE DASHBOARD  BUT YOU ANSWERED THAT ALREADY.  AND ASSUMING THE PRIMARY  AUDIENCE FOR THIS ARE CITY  RESIDENTS.  >> CITY RESIDENTS AND STAFF SO  WE CAN EVALUATE WERE GO WHERE  WE'RE GOING AND HOW WE'RE  DOING OKAY WOULD STAFF PRIMARY  OR SECONDARY.  >> I DANCE.  >> WE PRIMARY, OKAY.  >> HAVE WE ANY PILOT SORRY  DOWN LOANS ARE USER GROUPS  WITH RESIDENTS.  >> TO GET FEEDBACK SORT OF  LIKE A PILOT OR SOMETHING GET  SOME RESIDENTS IN ROOM AND  HAVE THEM BANGING AWAY AND SO  TO GIVE US INPUT ON WHAT FROM  THEIR POINT OF VIEW IS WORKING  WHAT ISN'T WORKING.  >> I HAVE NOT I DON'T KNOW IF  THAT HAPPENED PRYOR BUT I HAVE  NOT DONE THAT YET I WOULD  RECOMMEND THAT.  >> THIS IS IT AND AND I GUESS  PART OF WHAT I'M REACTING TO  IS IT SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT  IT CAN BE OVERWHELMING. AND I  THINK YOU STRUCTURED IT PRETTY  WELL, YOU KNOW YOU SORT OF  HAVE THE HIGH-LEVEL STAFF AND  THEN IF YOU WANT THE DETAIL IN  A CERTAIN AREA YOU CAN CLICK  AND GO DEEPER THAT'S GREAT  DESIGN. THAT I THINK TO HAVE  USER AND REDESIGNS THAT I'VE  BEEN INVOLVED AND WE HAVE  THINGS WE CALL I CAN THINK OF  THE TERM. CHARACTERIZATIONS OF  THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE USING  THIS DATA. AND IT WAS REALLY  HELPFUL AND FIGURING OUT HOW  TO STRUCTURE THINGS SO I WOULD  STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU KNOW  WHEN WE CONSIDER A REFRESHED  OF THE USER INTERFACE THAT WE  ACTUALLY GET SOME RESIDENTS IN  THE ROMAN. LET THEM BANGING  AWAY AND KIND OF GIVE A STREAM  OF CONSCIOUSNESS FEEDBACK AS  THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE  PAGES I THINK THAT WOULD BE  VALUABLE. I ALSO WAS STARTING  TO THINK ABOUT. HOW DO WE GET  PEOPLE ENGAGING WITH THIS  INFORMATION AND AND I SORT OF  JOTTED DOWN I THINK IT WOULD  BE GREAT AND THE CITIZEN  UNIVERSITY TO MAYBE HAVE A  LITTLE DEMO I DON'T THINK IT  WOULD HURT TO SPEND AND I  DIDN'T GO TO EVERY CLASS SO I  APOLOGIZE IF THIS WAS COVERED  IN A LATER CLASS. BUT IF WE  COULD GIVE CLIFF NOTES. OUR  WEB SITE AND WHERE TO GET  INFORMATION. YOU KNOW WE NEED  TO DO A LOT MORE OF THAT  BECAUSE AGAIN THERE'S SO MUCH  INFORMATION OUR WEB SITE THAT  MAY OR MAY NOT BE INTUITIVELY  OBVIOUS TO FOLKS I THINK  COVERING SOMETHING LIKE THAT  AND THE PRESIDENT UNIVERSITY  HAVING DEMOS AT THE NEW  RESIDENTS TAISON AND THOSE  KINDS OF EVENTS I THINK WE  NEED TO START AND INFORMATION  ON WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET AWAY  TO STATE AND YOU KNOW I WITH  WE DID SUCH GOOD JOB WITH THE  HURRICANES LAST 2 HURRICANES  AND HAVING OUR RADIO STATION  EMBEDDED WITH US HAVING JOHN  IN BED. AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE  AND I THINK IT'S BEEN SAID  BEFORE I JUST THINK A LOT OF  PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH  INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO  THEM. AND SOMETIMES IT'S  PROBABLY TOO MUCH BUT HAVE TOO  MUCH NOT ENOUGH. GREAT I LOVE  THIS I THINK IT'S GREAT. AND  I'M I'M REALLY I HAVEN'T  LOOKED AT THE PELICANS CHIP SO  I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DIVING  INTO THE PILLARS GETTING A  FEEL FOR THOSE AS WELL. THANK  YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. YEAH.  >> YOU KNOW THIS KIND OF THING  I THINK IT'S NO SURPRISE IS  RIGHT UP MY ALLEY I LOVE THE  DATA I LOVE CRITIQUING IT AND  LOOKING AT IT DIVING DEEPER  LEARNING MORE. AND I DID THAT  I SPENT PROBABLY 2 HOURS  LOOKING THROUGH 10 AND JUST  REALLY SEE WHAT WAS AND I  APPRECIATED  >> BUT AT THE SAME TIME PLEASE  DON'T TAKE THIS IS CRITICISM  THIS IS JUST A COMMENT AND  IT'S KIND OF ALONG  COMMISSIONER LANGDON WAS  SAYING. IT WAS LIKE  OVERLOADING.  >> I'M SORRY FOR THAT'S THAT'S  THE 24 IT WAS KIND OF  OVERLOADING AND THEN I ALSO  GOT TO THE POINT OF. WHY DO WE  NEED THIS INFORMATION. I MEAN  THE INFORMATION IS BUT WHAT IS  THE PURPOSE IF THERE'S REALLY  NO PURPOSE EXCEPT TO JUST PUT  IT OUT THERE SEE WE'RE DOING  THIS WE'RE DOING SEE WE'RE  DOING THIS.  >> BUT WHAT IS WHAT IS THE  REAL END GOAL.  >> THAT INFORMATION AND SO.  ONE OF THE THINGS AND I'M  REALLY SURPRISED YOU DID NOT  MENTION IS WAS ON THERE AND I  WAS PLAYING AROUND ON IT, I  FOUND AND I TRIED TO GO BACK  BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW  EXACTLY WHERE ONCE THAT COULD  NOT RE FIND IT.  >> THERE ON THE PUBLIC WORKS.  >> WHOLE LIST OF ALL THE  PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS YES, AND  IT GAVE A DESCRIPTION OF WHEN  IT STARTED WHERE WE ARE.  >> AND IT WAS SO HIDDEN, I WAS  LIKE OH MY GOSH THIS IS  AMAZING NOW THIS IS  INFORMATION THAT REALLY AND  TRULY THE PUBLIC COULD  DEFINITELY USE. YES, THEY  APPRECIATE THAT WHALES ARE  GETTING MODE AND THEY DID A  100 LINEAR FEET THIS MONTH.  >> MAYBE.  >> MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THIS  PROJECT LIST. NO THAT'S NOT  WHAT IT WAS IT IT WAS DONE  HERE IF YOU SCROLL DOWN SO  THERE'S A THERE'S A GIS MAP OF  THE PROJECT BELOW IT IS THE  NARRATIVE PART AND THIS  PROJECT REALLY AND TRULY NEEDS  TO DO BE DISPLAYED MORE  PROMINENTLY IT WAS SO HIDDEN  LIKE I SAID I COULDN'T GO BACK  AND FIGURE OUT THAT IS MY  SUGGESTION BECAUSE IT IS  USEFUL INFORMATION AND I THINK  THE RESIDENTS IT GIVES A VERY  QUICK SNAPSHOT OF WHERE IT'S  AT AND THEN PUT TO THOSE OTHER  MATRIX IS DOWN BELOW SO THAT  THEY COULD LIKE MEAN REALLY  DIVE DEEP INTO THE DATA AND  STUFF IF THEY SO CHOOSE I  THINK THIS IS REALLY.  >> GREAT INFORMATION FOR THE  RESIDENTS AND I PER DEPARTMENT  NOW ONE THING I DID NOTICE TOO  AND I UNDERSTAND STAFF TIME IS  VERY VALUABLE. BUT A LOT OF  THE DATA IS OLD A LOT OF THE  DATA IS MISSING.  >> AND IT'S. NOT BEEN UPDATED  AND I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT  FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 GOING BACK.  >> FOR GOING TO DO SOMETHING  LIKE THIS.  >> IT NEEDS TO BE KEPT UP TO  DATE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING  UP. I'M I GOING HERE I'M NOT  GOING TO LOOK AT IT IS IT'S  STILL TOO OLD THEY HAVEN'T  UPDATED SO THEN THEY LOSE  INTEREST.  >> AND ABOUT STAFF TIME. THE  REALLY CURIOUS HOW MUCH STAFF  TIME IT TAKES TO REALLY KEEP  THIS ALL UP TO IS THAT AND  THIS IS NOT A QUESTION I CAN  ANSWER  IS THIS. DATA. REALLY GOOD USE  OF STAFF'S TIME TO CONSTANTLY  HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND WE DID  A LINEAR FEET THIS MONTH THINK  YOU KNOW.  >> SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE  INFORMATION BEING SHARED.  >> IS MORE SPECIFIC TO THE  USERS OF THE CITIZENS.  >> AND ALSO. TIMELY UPDATED  AND MAKE SURE THAT STAFF ISN'T  SPINNING THEIR WHEELS. UPDATE  THAT'S. INTERESTING TO SEE HOW  MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY LOOK WHAT  USER GROUPS. HER FOR 7 OR DO  FIND VALUE IN BECAUSE THE  OTHER STUFF THAN JUST BECOMES  VALUE, LISTEN A WASTE OF TIME  OF STAFF.  >> THINK YOU FOR SHARING THAT  AND I HOPE THE CITIZENS KNOW  THAT IT'S OUT THERE AND START.  >> GOING THANK YOU I THANK YOU  COMMISSIONER IMAGE.  >> YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH I  THINK YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB  AND THIS IS THIS IS A GREAT  TOOL TO HAVE JUST IN CASE YOU  MISSED IT ISN'T WANT THE  INFORMATION ON WHAT THE PUBLIC  WORKS WHAT DID PARKS AND REC  IT'S ALL IN CAR INCORPORATED  IN TO WHERE THEY CAN GO LOOK  FIND OUT THOSE ANSWERS,  SOMEBODY COULD SAY HEY THEY  DIDN'T DO THIS THEY DIDN'T DO  THAT DON'T KNOW THEY DID IT.  IT'S RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHAT  THE PROJECTS GOING ON THIS IS  WHERE WE'RE AT IS WHY WE'RE  ONLY YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF  A WAYS DOWN THE ROAD IN  COMPLETING THIS PROJECT. ALL  THE ANSWERS ARE THERE. SO I  THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL JOB AND  A GREAT PRESENTATION SO THANK  YOU.  >> YES, THANK YEAH, THIS IT'S  REALLY FANTASTIC THE NUMBERS  ARE THERE, ESPECIALLY THAT  RIGHT SHE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO  CALL IT BECAUSE PEOPLE SOME OF  THESE THINGS PEOPLE ARE ASKING  LIKE WHEN IT'S HILLSBOROUGH  GOING TO BE PAYABLE THERE IT  RIGHT THERE.  >> AND WE DIRECT MORE PEOPLE  TO THIS INFORMATION IS  AVAILABLE AND THE TIMELINE  WHEN YOU CLICK ON IT IT TELLS  EXACTLY BUT THE IT'S IT'S  GREAT AND AND AGAIN HOW  ANYBODY COULD SAY THAT ARE NOT  TRANSPARENT BECAUSE AGAIN I  DON'T I THINK IT'S BEEN  MENTIONED I DON'T KNOW ANY  OTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS  ANYTHING TO THAT I'M CLOSE TO  THIS AT ALL IS IT YOU HAVE TO  CALL SOMEBODY AND WANT TO GET  A PHONE CALL BACK ABOUT  ANYTHING SO THIS IS RIGHT HERE  AND THAT'S WHAT A GREAT IDEA  GREAT USE TECHNOLOGY. I'M NOT  AN IT PERSON IS EVERYBODY  KNOWS, BUT I DO EMBRACE IT  WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE EMBRACED  THIS IS GREAT.  >> NOTHING ELSE UP HERE DO WE  HAVE.  >> PUBLIC NO MA'AM.  >> OKAY SO WE'RE DONE WITH  THAT THANK YOU SO KAITLYN.  >> WE TAKE QUICK 10 WE WANT  AND BACK WORK DAY LUNCH OKAY,  I WOULD TAKE 10 MINUTES WE'LL  BE BACK AT  >> WE'RE RECONVENING ARE  >> WE DIDN'T WE'RE GOING TO  BEFORE WE MOVE ITEM 7 OR THINK  THEY WANTED TO MOVE ITEM ON  THE  >> RESOLUTION ITEM F. 24 59  AND MOVED THAT NEXT TO YOU  NEED A AND MOTION FOR THAT HOW  MAKE A MOTION AHEAD MAKE A  MOTION TO HEAR ITEM AFTER  RESOLUTION NUMBER TO 4 R DASH  59 NOW.  >> THAT  >> THANK YOU SO WE HAVE A  MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL TO MOVE GRADUATION  NUMBER 2024 DASH R DASH 59. 2  NOW IN THE AGENDA AND THAT'S  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON NOTHING ELSE NOTE ON  THAT.  THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 SO WE  WILL NOW MOVE TO RESOLUTION  ITEM SYSTEM CITY CLERK AND YOU  READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY.  >> RESOLUTION OF THE CITY  COMMISSION OF THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA STATING  THAT CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO  PROPOSE LEGISLATION AMENDING  CHAPTER 2, 0, 0, 4 DASH 4, 5,  6, LAWS OF FLORIDA WHICH  CREATES AND GOVERNS THE WEST  VILLAGE'S IMPROVEMENT  DISTRICTS. FOR THE CORPORATION  RECITALS PROVIDING FOR  CONFLICTS PROVIDING FOR  SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING  EFFECTIVE DATE.  >> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS  IS YOUR ITEM THEY COME THE  CITY AS IT INTO BOTH  LEGISLATIVE WITH 2 OTHER  CHANGES FIND ASPECTS OF THE  DISTRICT'S GOVERNING  AUTHORITY.  >> REQUIRE CITY SENT TO THE  DISTRICT'S ACQUISITION OF REAL  PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY. IT'S  REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY CAN  THIS ACCUSED OF IN CITY TO  THIS BOUNDARIES RESOLUTION  THAT WE REPORT NOT HAS BEEN BY  THE CITY. THE JURY ALREADY  CORRECTED WE ASK THAT YOU READ  NUMBER TWEET OR THAT NOT THANK  YOU.  >> THANK YOU KNOW WE'RE ON TO  COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND  VICE MAYOR.  >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE POINT  THAT THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN  THIS THAT IS NOT FOR THE  COURSE WITH REGARD TO MORE  CURRENT LEGISLATION THAT  EXISTS OUT THERE. THE WEST  VILLAGE'S IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT  LEGISLATION, THIS PARTICULAR  DISTRICT WAS SET UP SO THAT TO  A LARGE EXTENT THERE OR  ASPECTS OF IT THAT ARE  SOMEWHAT ANTIQUATED ESPECIALLY  CALCULATION SUSPECT. MEMBERS  GETS ELECTED. HOW THOSE  NUMBERS BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS  ARE CALCULATED. AS WELL  >> REFERENCE I BELIEVE 2 OF  THE DISTRICT'S ABILITY TO  ACQUIRE LAND WITHIN ITS ITS  BOUNDARIES. THOSE ARE  EXTREMELY STANDARD I STAND AND  THIS CHANGE IN LEGISLATION  WILL ELEVATE THIS DOCUMENT TO  >> EQUAL PAR SOME OF MOST OF  THE NEWER. LEGISLATION'S THAT  ARE OUT THERE SO CHOSE.  THERE'S NO HERE THAT SHOOTING  USUAL WERE THAT AFFECTS US AND  QUITE FRANKLY THERE ANY  DISTRICT AGREEMENT OUT THERE  THAT REQUIRE HE THEN HAVING TO  COME BACK TO A MUNICIPALITY  AND ASK FOR ALL THESE THINGS  SO YOU KNOW IT'S SO TO ME  NO-BRAINER YOU KNOW I I  SUPPORT FORWARD.  >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SINCE WV  ID WAS DONE THE END OF 20  YEARS AGO NOW DASH 20 YEAR  ANNIVERSARY CAN GET SONS.  ♪ AND I KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY  OF WV ID IS IN THE CITY OF  NORTH PORT'S LIMITS. BUT THERE  IS A PORTION OF WV ID IF I  REMEMBER CORRECTLY  ♪ THAT'S IN SARASOTA COUNTY  UNINCORPORATED COULD YOU GIVE  ME. MAYBE A BREAKDOWN OF THE  ACREAGE OF THIS NORTH SPORTS  AND SARASOTA JOE WASN'T  SCHEME.  ♪ ♪ >> WALK UVA CHAIRMAN BOARD OF  SUPERVISORS. IN ROUND NUMBERS.  THERE IS A PROXY IN 500 ACRES  IN THE CITY IN NORTH PORT  TODAY. THE 660 ACRES IN THE  COUNTY. AND THE SAME. DOCUMENT  BASICALLY FROM THE COUNTY  STANDPOINT WAS JUST RECENTLY  APPROVED BY LAW AND THAT WAS  MY NEXT QUESTION THANK YOU SO  EVERY TIME DO SOMETHING WE'VE  GOT TO GET APPROVAL FROM BOTH  REMEMBER. SAW VICE MAYOR SAID  JUST TRYING TO STREAMLINE THE  PROCESS AND PARTICULARLY THE  VOTING PROCESS WHICH BECOME  THERE. IT'S COST US ROUGHLY A  100,000 TO 2 LAST 3 YEARS  BECAUSE THERE'S A CERTAIN  GROUP OF PEOPLE WANT TO DEBATE  EVERY DONE MULTIPLE WAYS AND  WITH THE CURRENT BOARD DID IS  BASICALLY JUST TAKE IT OUT  SCHOOL LIKE LAKEWOOD RANCH,  SOME OF THE OTHERS. IT IS PI.  REGISTERED VOTE. AND THIS WAY  THERE'S NO DEBATE ON KNOW  UPSON WHO TO THEM PRIDE.  INTERPRETATIONS INLAND. SO WE  FIGURED THIS WAS THE MOST FAIR  WAY. GIVES US SOME NUMBER GET  RIGHT NOW IF YOU FOLLOWED UP  YOUR CALCULATION WE SHOULD NOT  BE A RESIDENT. ELECTRON THE  BOARD.  >> WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT  ANSWER ABOUT THE ACREAGE I DO  APPRECIATE IT CAUSE IT'S  IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS TO  KNOW THAT 20 YEARS, IT WAS  MOSTLY JUST NORTH PORT PORT  BUT NOW THAT YOU'RE EXPANDING  SO QUICKLY AND SO FAST THAT IT  IS STARTING NOW TO GO INTO  UNINCORPORATED CERTAINLY IT'S  A PAIN IN ABOUT 2, S WILL BE  ENOUGH UNINCORPORATED AND  INCORPORATED EXCELLENT  CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU  THANK YOU.  >> MAKE A WAY WE PUBLIC  COMMENT.  >> ALL RIGHT SO OPPOSES  PORTION PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M  LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR THIS  RESOLUTION MAKE IT.  >> I MEAN THE TO BUSH A NUMBER  2024 OR DASH 59 US PERCENT. WE  HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE  MAYOR STEPS TO ADOPT  RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH R  DASH 59% THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF  THERE'S NOTHING HELPED VOTE.  AND THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK  YOU THANK YOU FOR MOVING UP ON  THE AGENDA. YEAH TONIGHT IT'S  A YEAH  >> SO THAT MOVING BACK TO.  NUMBER 2024 DASH R DASH 57  SYSTEMS DIDN'T WORK AND YOU  KNOW THIS BY TITLE ONLY.  >> LUCIAN OF THE CITY  COMMISSION OF THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA,  ADOPTING CITY COMMISSION ALSO  NUMBER 2, 0, 2, 4, DASH 0 ONE  RELATED TO THE DEBT MANAGEMENT  POLICY PROVIDING FOR  INCORPORATION OF RECITALS  PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS  PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND  PROVIDING IT'S LIKE TODAY.  >> THANK YOU CITY MANAGER THIS  IS YOUR ITEM.  >> THANK YOU SEPTEMBER 93 FOR  CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP.  REGARDING CITY OF PORT THAT  THE POLICY OF FINANCE MISTER  WE FELT NEVADA BY  PRESENTATION. JUST THAT HASN'T  HISTORY BUT WILL BE PROVIDING  UPDATED PRESENTATION OVER THE  ITEMS THAT DISCUSSED IN THE  TOO ALSO 3, 4, DASH ONE THAT  MEANT THE POLICY OF NOT OK,  THANK YOU.  >> MANAGER. MAYOR PHIL JEREMY  MANAGING DIRECTOR AND YOUR  FINANCIAL ADVISOR BACK TO  PRESENT A BRIEF OVERVIEW.  >> YOU KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS  THAT TRANSPIRED OVER THE LAST  COUPLE OF WORKSHOP MEETINGS.  JUST A REFRESHER POLICY SOME  UPDATES AND CHANGES FROM THAT  SEPTEMBER MEETING AND THEN  JUST A QUICK RUN THROUGH OF  THE DATA FOR AS THEY'RE SHOWN  A NEW HIGH. A DRAFT REVIEW. SO  DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY THE IS  A WRITTEN PROCEDURE, THE  POLICY OF WAYS RECOMMENDATIONS  ON BEST PRACTICE THAT'S  DESIGNED TO IMPROVE  DECISION-MAKING A REINFORCING  POLICY AND COMMISSIONER  OBJECTIVES WITH THE REVIEW OF  IT RECOGNIZES THE CURRENT  STRENGTH AND THAT'S ALSO  RECOGNIZES WAY TO YOU KNOW  SHOWING A SCORE CARDS AND  UPDATES TO THE CITIZENS. THE  COMMUNITY. WHILE MATCH THAT  PHOTO PROVIDED IT'S THE  PAYMENTS WILL BE MADE ON TIME  AND THAT THE SERVER OF REQUIRE  COMPLIANCE MEASURES WILL BE  MET. AND OVER TIME BASED ON  ECONOMIC CONDITIONS. THE  METRICS WILL BE REVIEWED FOR  UPDATE AND THAT CAN BE THROUGH  THE THE STRUCTURE THAT'S  THAT'S OUTLINED AND THAT THAT  POLICY. INJECT THOSE ARE 2  SURE FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY  AFFORDABILITY PROMOTE  TRANSPARENCY ACCOUNTING AND  REPORTING COMPLIANCE.  STRUCTURED THAT EFFECTIVELY  AND EFFICIENTLY UTILIZE THE  APPROPRIATE THAT IS THAT  INSTRUMENTS. PRESERVE OR  ENHANCE CREDIT WORTHINESS  INVESTOR CONFIDENCE WITH THIS  CLOSURES. SUPPORT CAPITAL  IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND  PROGRAMS ENSURE LEGAL AND  REGULATORY SO IT WAS NOTHING  NEW THAT WAS JUST A REVIEW OF  WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS  DISCUSSION WITH THE GOALS  OBJECTIVES ARE. PRIMARY WHAT  WAS PRESENTED IN SEPTEMBER.  ONE MAJOR UPDATE WAS. 40 FOR  BILLY METRICS TO BE APPLIED. I  FUND AS OPPOSED TO AN  AGGREGATE CITYWIDE. SO WE'LL  GO THROUGH THOSE HERE A FEW  MOMENTS BUT THAT WAS IT WAS A  MAJOR CHANGE IN UPDATE  IMPROVEMENT TO THE POLICY.  ALSO FINANCE COMMITTEE AS OF  WE HAD ORIGINALLY STRUCTURE  THAT THE POLICY. WE THOUGHT IT  WAS BETTER AND YOU WILL DIRECT  IT WAS BETTER TO BE. RENAMED  THE DEBT MANAGEMENT ADVISORY  COMMITTEE. AND WE ALSO REMOVE  ANY PARTICIPATION OF THE  COMMISSIONERS BOARD. WAS TO  DECREASE INDEPENDENTS THAT  WIND ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND  THE BOARD ITSELF.  EVALUATION REPORT SPECIFICALLY  REQUIRED TO COME BACK TO THE  COMMISSION. SO IT'S SOMETHING  THAT WILL BE REPORTED BY V  THAT MANAGEMENT ADVISORY  COMMITTEE. TO THE TO THE CITY  COMMISSION AT A PUBLIC  MEETING. SPECIFICALLY THE DANA  FORD BUILDING MEASURES ARE ARE  USED TO MEASURE HOW YOUR DEBT  METRICS PERFORM RELATION TO  THE ECONOMY. A FINANCIAL  PERFORMANCE AND LEVERAGE.  SPECIFIC METRICS THAT ARE  PROPOSED IN OR USE THE NEW  YEAR. A DRAFT POLICY ART THAT  PER CAPITA THAT TO TAXABLE  ASSESSED VALUE AND THAT  PAYMENTS AS A PERCENTAGE OF  YOUR NET OPERATING REVENUE. SO  THE GOVERNMENT OFTEN TARGETS  ARE BUT FOR CAP OF 2500 OR  LESS. BUT THAT TO TAXABLE  ASSESSED VALUE OF 2 AND A HALF  PERCENT OR LESS. AND THAT  SERVICE PAYMENTS AS PERCENT OF  NET BRING REVENUE 15%. YOU CAN  SEE HISTORICAL TREND OF WHAT  YOUR DEBT BEFORE BILLY METRICS  OVER TIME. AND YOU CAN SEE IN  2025. THAT MEASURE INCLUDES  THE PRICE. ROAD WIDENING  PROJECT THAT WILL CLOSE  TOMORROW. ONE IMPORTANT NOTE  THAT WE WAS CAPACITY MEASURE.  SO BASED ON EACH OF THESE  AFFORDABILITY METRICS YOU CAN  SEE WHAT THE CAPACITY IS. SO  RANGING FROM 137 MILLION.  272 MILLION ON A STANDALONE  BASIS ALL THINGS EQUAL. SO THE  GOVERNMENTAL FUND HIST  HISTORICAL TREND THAT PER  CAPITA SHOWN HERE. YOU SEE  IT'S FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH  INCREASE BASED ON THE PRICE  ROAD, DANCING. WELL BELOW THE  TARGET OF LIMIT. YOU SEE THAT  THAT TO TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE  HAS TRENDED DOWN AS THE CITY  HAS PAID DOWN DEBT AND THEN  HAS GONE UP TO ABOUT ONE  PERCENT. STILL WELL BELOW THE  THRESHOLD LIMIT. AND THE SAME  FOR DEBT SERVICE AS A  PERCENTAGE OF NET OPERATING  REVENUES. TURNED DOWN THE LAST  FEW YEARS THAT HAS BEEN PAID  OFF AND INCREASED WITH THE  PRICE FOR SO IN ADDITION TO  WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN SEPTEMBER  THERE WERE FUNDS SPECIFIC THAT  AFFORDABILITY MEASURES TO  INCLUDE A GENERAL FUND WHICH  CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE THAT OF  TART OF 3 TIMES COVERAGE.  SPECIAL DISTRICTS OR SPECIAL  REVENUE WOULD INCLUDE  TRANSPORTATION COST THAT HAS A  2 TYPES REQUIREMENT. SIR  TAXES, SPECIFIC SURTAX OR  CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS LIKE THE  PRICE ROGUE ONE. AND THAT'S A  2 TIMES REQUIREMENT AND THAT'S  ALSO SUPPORTED AND THE BOND  COVENANTS. THEN YOU TILL TERRY  OR UTILITY AND PROPRIETARY  FUNDS. PAYS CASH ON HAND SO  LIQUIDITY MEASURE. A 150 DAYS  BUT AND THEN NOT NET OPERATING  REVENUES OF AT LEAST 1.2 TIMES  WHICH IS PART OF YOUR  FINANCING COVENANTS. STATED  THERE'S NO DEBT CURRENTLY  SECURED BY THE GENERAL FUND  SPECIAL DISTRICT ROAD DRAINAGE  TO THE SURTAX WOULD SALE  SURTAX REVENUE BONDS AND THEN  THE UTILITIES HAVE TO NOTE  OUTSTANDING. CURRENTLY YOU CAN  SEE HOW THEY COMPARE TO EACH  OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL ON THE  AFFORDABILITY MEASURES. SO  THOSE ARE THE NEW UPDATES IN  THE ADDITIONAL METRICS ANSWER  QUESTIONS ARE FOR CLARIFYING.  ANYTHING  >> THANK VICE MAYOR.  >> JEREMY APPRECIATE THE WORK  THAT WAS DONE ESPECIALLY THE  UPDATED INFORMATION.  >> AND COMMENT YOU KNOW HERE  WE HAVE METRICS WE HAVE THESE  THESE PARAMETERS THAT ARE SET  UP THESE FINANCIAL CORDDRY OLD  PERCENTAGES.  >> YOU KNOW OUR OUR DEBT PER  CAPITA THAT PROTECTS TELL KNOW  THAT PRETTY NET OPERATING  REVENUES.  >> IT'S A POLICY. SO. WHAT  WOULD IT BE. WHAT WOULD BE THE  IMPACT. IF ANY CITY COMMISSION  CURRENT OR FUTURE WORK TO TRY  GET THE CITY. HE ON THESE  THESE PARAMETERS, YOU KNOW  WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES LIKE  WHAT YOU KNOW IT'S ONE THING  TO SAY POLICY BUT YOU KNOW IF  THE COMMISSION DECIDES SUCCEED  THESE NUMBERS LIKE WHAT  HAPPENS WHAT'S WHAT'S REALLY  THE REAL THERE WHAT'S  PREVENTING. CITY COMMISSIONS  FROM DOING THIS KIND OF STUFF  GOING TO BE OFF THE FORMULAS  THAT ARE SET.  >> YEAH THAT'S GREAT QUESTION  WITH ANY POLICY. LET'S PUT IN  PLACE WITH SOMETHING  SIGNIFICANT AS THAT THAT  POLICY THERE'S GOING TO BE AN  OUTWARD FACING A PROJECTED  IMAGE. THE MANAGEMENT PORTRAYS  A MANAGEMENT GETS CREDIT FOR.  PROVIDING SO WHEN MANAGEMENT  GOES AGAINST THEIR OWN POLICY  THAT WILL BE NOTED AND THAT  WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED AND TO GO.  AND PROACTIVELY CHANGE YOUR  POLICY TO ALLOW FOR THAT.  WE'LL ALSO LIKELY BE NOTED SO  YET THE IDEA OF GOING DIRECTLY  AGAINST YOUR POLICY WILL  LIKELY REQUIRE SOME  CONSIDERATION FROM REVIEW  COMMITTEE AND AND COME THROUGH  AND SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION  OR. RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT  COMMITTEE OR 3 THAT COMMITTEE  TO THE COMMISSION. BUT THERE  WOULD BE AND THAT HAITIAN THAT  THIS EXCEEDS POLICY LIMITS FOR  THIS REASON OR THAT REASON BUT  IT WOULD BE ACCREDITED.  >> WHAT ABOUT FROM A LENDER  PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS PERPETUAL  FINANCING. I MEAN YOU MOVE WE  HAVE CAPACITY LIMITS WHICH PUT  IN THERE WHICH REALLY STYLISH  THE ULTIMATE CAPS ON WHAT THE  CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BORROW  BECAUSE BEYOND THAT WE WOULD  START TO OUTSIDE THE  PARAMETERS GUARDRAILS WE'VE  SET BUT HOW'S THAT YOU FROM  THE STANDPOINT LENDERS WHO YOU  KNOW. SO COMMISSION SAYS WE  DON'T REALLY CARING AND STAFF  SAYS YOU LET'S JUST GO BEYOND  THESE BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED  TO BORROW MORE LIKE. LEAVING  BUT TO ME WHAT I SEE IS THAT  NO WONDER SO WE'RE GOING TO  LOAN MONEY TO THAT DOESN'T  SHOW THE ABILITY TO PAY AND  THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE  PREMISE THAT SET UP ANSWERING  THE QUESTION FOR BUT I WAS  MORE CONCERNED WITH NOT BUT  WHAT WHAT LENDERS WOULD SAY  BECAUSE THERE IS THE ULTIMATE  BACKSTOP. NO GETS MORE MONEY  THAN THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO  PAY AND OF THESE METRICS THAT  ARE SET UP IN THIS POLICY ARE  SET TO KEEP WITHIN A  REASONABLE. LEVEL SO THAT. WE  ARE TRYING TO WE MAINTAIN OUR  BOND RATING FINANCIALLY  SOLVENT. LENDERS WHAT WE CALL  TROUBLE WITH THE AMOUNT THAT  THEY'VE ALREADY EXTENDED AND  AS WE MOVE FORWARD RETIRED IT  ANY NEW DEBT WE MAY WISH TO  ENCOURAGE SO WHERE THE THAT'S  WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IT'S GOING  ABSOLUTE GUARANTEE NOTHING IN  THIS WORLD IS A GUARANTEE, BUT  THIS IS HOW EVERYTHING IS DONE  THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE THIS  COMPREHENSIVE THAT THAT MAN  SOME POLICY AND SEEN A THREAT.  EVERY OTHER ONE I COULD GET MY  HANDS OFF FROM ANY OTHER  MUNICIPALITY AND COUNTY AROUND  WE'VE GOT THEN I'VE SEEN  ANYWHERE ELSE CORRECT ME IF.  >> GO THERE'S THERE'S A  EVERYTHING A BROADER RANGE  ASSERTS ITS A GOOD POINT I  THINK SOME OF THE SPECIFICITY  HERE CONTROLS. YES, CONCERN  ABOUT DEDICATING OTTER  CAPACITY INTO ONE FUND AND I  THINK THAT WAS A GOOD  SUGGESTION TO TO MAKE FOR  FIRST REVIEW. I THINK FROM  LENDER PERSPECTIVE. THERE IS  SOME PASSIVE INFLUENCE ON  THESE METRICS IF IF WE HAVE  ANOTHER GREAT RECESSION TO AND  WE LOSE TAXABLE ASSESSED  VALUE. THAT'S GOING TO YOU  KNOW SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL  CAN. CONTROL DIRECTLY YOU KNOW  IF THERE'S PROMENADE OPERATE  FUND REVENUE. YOU KNOW  MEASURES THAT ARE IMPACTED. IF  THE MEASURE FROM A LENDER IS  YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE  PROBABILITY OF DEFAULT AND  THAT'S WHAT A CREDIT RATING  ESTABLISHES AND THESE CREDIT  METRICS ARE IN ALIGNMENT ARE  BANKS JUST LIKE THERE ARE  RATING AGENCIES TO HOW HOW DO  YOU EVALUATE THE BUILDING. SO  TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS  SOFTENING IN A CERTAIN METRIC  WITH AN EXPLANATION AND SHOW  YOU KNOW HOW THAT THAT  MEASUREMENT SPEND LOOK AT  ANNUAL BASIS WITH THE AND YOUR  REPORTING FROM THE COMMITTEE  TO SO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT'S  GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS  OUR FACING AND AS YOU SAID  THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUSH  TOWARDS TRANSPARENCY. I THINK  FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY WILL GO  RIGHT ALONG WITH THE OTHER  MEASURES THAT THE CITIES  UNDERGOING BUT THAT WILL BE  TRENDING STATISTIC THAT FOLLOW  THAT WE WILL PRESENT TO  LENDERS IN A MATTER THAT SHOWS  WHAT YOU HAVE DOG FROM A  POLICY PERSPECTIVE FROM  MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE TO KEEP  OURSELVES AND PUBLIC CREDITS  MS. AND I GUESS JUST.  >> ONE MAKING THE NON THIS  STAT. FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE  SKEPTICS OF. BORROWING OF THE  CITY'S ABILITY TO BORROW MONEY  HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO ASK  EVERY TIME. WE NEED MONEY. I  WOULD JUST SAY THAT. THE STEP  POLICY GOING TO SOLVE YOUR  PROBLEM. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE.  CITIES EXPERTISE IN MANAGING.  OUR CITIZENS TAX DOLLARS WHICH  WE DO IN A WAY TO THE TUNE OF  A QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS  EVERY SINGLE  DAY YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER IF  ENDING THIS TOOL. IF PEOPLE  THINK YES OR THE ORDINANCE OR  ANYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO BE  AN ABSOLUTE GUARANTEE THAT  LEADERSHIP IS GOING DO AN  IMPECCABLE JOB AND SATISFY ANY  QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ANYBODY  OUT THERE WELL.  >> THAT GOING TO HAPPEN TRUTH  YOU EITHER. IN FACT IN THE  PEOPLE LEFT AND THE  PROFESSIONAL SHUAI TO RUN CITY  PROPERLY OR YOU DO SO THIS  THOUGH IS A GREAT TOOL AND A  GREAT FOR ASK THAT PEOPLE ARE  PRESENTLY VOTING ON AND WE'LL  FIND OUT ABOUT SURE WE HAVE TO  SO AGAIN I JUST WANT PEOPLE  KEEP THIS THAT SOME POLICY IN  PROPER PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IT  ISN'T THE END ALL OVER THE  WORLD HERE. IT ISN'T YOU'VE  GOT TO ACCEPT FACT THAT. CITY  MANAGES YOUR MONEY RIGHT NOW  AND IT BELIEVES IT DOES SO IN  AN EXTREMELY FISCALLY  RESPONSIBLE MANNER 5 YEARS  RUNNING WITH NO PROPERTY TAX  RATE INCREASE.  >> MAINTAINING EXTREMELY HIGH  SERVICES. AND THIS TOOL WILL  ALLOW US TO DO THAT THAT MUCH  BETTER.  >> THANK THANK MISTER IF THANK  YOU TO SORT OF SUMMARIZE WHAT  VICE-MAYOR SAID AND VERY FEW  WORDS I THINK SOMETIMES WE  LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT.  ALL OF THIS IS FACING IS A  BOND MARKET OUT THERE THAT IS  OUR ULTIMATE GUARDRAIL BECAUSE  THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LAND TO  AN END TO T THAT HAS  DEMONSTRATED THE INABILITY TO  CONTROL ITSELF SO THAT IS  REALLY IN MY MIND. THE ALTON  THAT. GUARDRAIL AND AND FOR  ME. I DON'T EVER WANT THE CITY  TO BE TURNED DOWN FOR FUNDING.  AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE  PURPOSE OF ALL THE GUARDRAILS  BUT BEYOND THAT BECAUSE VICE  MAYOR SPOKE TO THAT REALLY  ELOQUENT MAY, I'M JUST A QUICK  QUESTION I WAS I WAS REALLY  INTERESTED IN THE ADDITIONAL  AFFORDABILITY MEASURES WHERE  DID THEY COME THEY SORT OF  INDUSTRY STANDARD ARE ARE THEY  BASED ON THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT SPECIFICALLY IF YOU COULD  TALK TO THEM A LITTLE BIT OUT  APPRECIATIVE SURE  >> GOING BACK TO SLIDE 15.  THIS IS REALLY A COMBINATION  BY FUN, YOUR FUNDS ARE SET UP  SPECIFICALLY AND UNIQUELY  DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT  PURPOSES, THE SURTAX.  >> PROGRAM WAS SET UP TO FUND  CAPITAL IF YOU COULD PUT THAT  CAN GET THAT SLIDE BACK UP.  WE'D RATHER THE SLIDE OR THIS  OR THIS SURE. AS WE STEP  ACROSS THE TABLE HERE. THE  TARGET. LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO  FOR GENERAL FUND. I LIKE TO  THINK OF THIS AS YOUR ALL OF  YOUR NOT HAVE WARM REVENUES  THAT ARE AVAILABLE.  >> FOR THAT SERVICE OR OTHER  PURPOSES.  >> SO NO POINT TIME WANT TO  IT'S SEED. YOU KNOW 3 TIMES TO  THE LOW. SO WE WANT TO KEEP AT  LEAST 3 TIMES COVERAGE  MEETING. YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF  CAPACITY TO DO OTHER PROGRAMS  OTHER THINGS. SOMETIMES THAT  GOES TO 2 TIMES COVERAGE FOR  LESS DIVERSIFIED COMMUNITY.  BUT FOR MORE DIVERSIFIED  COMMUNITY THAT HAS A LOT OF  OTHER OBLIGATIONS FREE TIME  SEEMS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A  DOUBLE A CRIME. SPECIAL  DISTRICT FOR SPECIAL REVENUE.  IF THIS AGAIN WOULD YOU KNOW  TRANSPORTATION BOMBS OR  TRANSPORTATION OF THAT  OUTSTANDING THAT COULD BE  LEVERAGED A LITTLE FURTHER,  BUT 2 TIMES COVERAGE IS  TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE ON HIGH.  I CREDITS AWT CREDITS YOU  COULD RUN THAT DOWN TO ONE  0.5. WE HAVE 1.3 5 TIMES AND  SOME DOCUMENTS BUT 2 TIMES A  FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE LOW. A  COUPLE PROJECTS ARE SURTAX.  THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY  DISCUSSED AS WE WORK THROUGH  THE BONN PROCESS FOR PRICE  PRICE. WINDING. WE SETTLED ON  2 TIMES AS A GOOD CREDIT AND  SMART. RECOGNIZE IT'S SORT AND  FED UP A GO AND THE LIMITED  BONDING NEEDS AND DESIRES HERE  REPORTS OF 2 TIMES IS WHAT  WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED. SO  THE IT WILL GO BELOW 2. ANY  ADDITIONAL NEED THAT AND WE  ALSO COMMIT A RESERVE FUND.  BUT THAT'S HERE OR THERE ARE 2  TIMES COVERAGE IS AGAIN  SIMILAR TO THE SPECIAL  DISTRICT, A GOOD COVERAGE  REQUIREMENT FOR INVESTORS.  UNTIL THESE MATTER PRESENTS  DIFFERENT THAT. THAT'S MORE OF  A BUSINESS OPERATION.  CALCULATIONS DONE FOR  UTILITIES IS REALLY AFTER.  OPERATING EXPENSES HAVE BEEN  PAID. SO WE CAN RUN THAT A  LITTLE LOWER BECAUSE YOU HAVE  RATE SETTING ABILITIES YOU  HAVE RIGHT COVENANT TO THE  INVESTOR THAT SAYS IF YOU'RE  NOT MEETING. 1.2 TIMES  COVERAGE. THEY'RE GOING TO  INCREASE YOUR RIGHTS. SO  THAT'S A VERY STRONG CREDIT  UTILITY PREPS IN THE CENTRAL  NEED FOR A CITIZEN SO. BUT  CLEARLY IS AN ISSUE FOR STORM  EVENT OR SOME OTHER. YOU KNOW  ONE BREAKAGE OR OUTAGE. AND  THE RIGHT COVENANTS A STRONG.  SO THAT'S HOW THOSE ARE SET.  >> THANK OKAY, MANAGEMENT  POLICY. I UNDERSTAND THE  PURPOSE OF THIS.  ♪ I UNDERSTAND THAT IT CAN  ♪ BE CHANGED AND THERE'S  CONSEQUENCES FOR CHANGING OR  NOT FOLLOWING IT. I HAVE SOME  QUESTIONS REGARDING THESE DEBT  AFFORDABILITY AND I. START MY  QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M NOT THE  EXPERT ON BUT I ALSO WANT TO  BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M  VOTING NOT. WHEN READING THESE  LINES SPECIFICALLY LINE 74  3.97. I I KEPT GOING BACK TO  WHAT DOES IT MEAN. FOR  EXAMPLE. WHEN YOU SAY NOT TO  EXCEED 2%. IS THAT DEBT  SERVICE IS THAT ANNUAL OR IS  THAT TOTAL DEBT OF THE THE  LIFE OF THE LOAN BECAUSE IT'S  NOT CLEAR. SO DEBT SERVICE ARE  WE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY  LIKE LINE WILL PICK 88. IT  SAYS SPECIAL DISTRICT OR OTHER  SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AND THEN  IT SAYS A DEBT SERVICE OF AT  LEAST 2%. THAT ANNUAL DEBT  SERVICE OR IS THAT TOTAL.  >> THE THERE'S GREAT  DISTINCTION THERE SAID THAT IS  AN ANNUAL PAYMENT.  >> AND THAT'S HOW LOOK AT WHAT  THE REQUIRED ANNUAL PAYMENT  WOULD BE BY THE CITY FOR THAT  SPECIFIC FUND. SO AND THAT  CASE YOU CAN NEVER ISSUED THAT  THE PUP EXCEPT ON YOUR POLICY  UNLESS YOU HAVE AT LEAST 2  TIMES REVENUE FOR THAT THAT  >> THAT.  >> JUST ANSWER THAT I THINK  ANOTHER ONE OF MY QUESTIONS  SO. BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE  DISTINCTION BETWEEN DEBT  SERVICE COVERAGE AND ANNUAL  DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE, I'M  HEARING THAT YOU'RE SAYING  THIS APPLIES. THE ANNUAL DEBT  SERVICE WOULD NOT BE IN THE  BEST INTEREST OF PUTTING THE  WORD ANNUAL IN FRONT OF THAT.  BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNDERSTOOD.  UNDERSTAND IT NOW.  >> IT'S IT'S A DEBT SERVICES  REPORTED ARE ACCOUNTING  PURPOSES AND FOR ON YOUR  PURPOSES AS AN ANNUAL. CASH  FLOW SO WHETHER IT'S ANNUAL OR  SEMI-ANNUAL YOU KNOW IT YOU'RE  YOUR ANNUAL PAYMENT SO THAT  YOUR SERVICE PAYMENT WHICH IS  DIFFERENT THAN THAT. SO THAT  IS TOTAL AMOUNT UP OUR  OUTSTANDING. SO JUST CAR LOAN  AND THAT'S SERVICES PRINCIPAL  AND INTEREST PAID AND THAT  CALCULATION PERIOD. WE'RE NOT  LOOKING AT REVENUES THAT  REPORTEDLY OR SOMEBODY ARE  LOOKING AT ANNUAL REVENUES SO  WE'RE LOOKING KNEW THAT  SERVICE. PROVIDE COVERAGE  RELATIONS.  >> WELL GOING BACK TO MY  QUESTION WOULD WOULD IT BE  WISE TO SAY ANNUAL DEBT  THERE'S ALSO SENDING SO I  WOULD THINK THAT BOTH OF THOSE  HAVE DIFFERENT NUMBERS WHEN  YOU'RE GOING TO FACTOR THEM.  >> SO I THINK. IF THERE WERE  REVENUES THAT WERE COLLECTED  IN A WAY. BUT THERE WILL A  DISTINCTION OR DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN THE 2 IT MIGHT BE  WORTH CLARIFYING IT. BUT ALL  THE CREDIT METRICS ARE DONE  WITH THAT SERVICE SCHEDULED  DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS AND  SINCE WE'RE COMPARING ANNUAL  REVENUE TO AN ANNUAL PAYMENT.  IT'S GOT A LINE WITH THE  REVENUE PERIOD. AND THE  EXPOSURE PERIOD FOR THAT  CALCULATION TO BE DONE.  >> AND AGAIN.  >> DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY IS  ALSO TO HELP THE CITIZENS TO  UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE GOING TO  BE ISSUING DEBT. IT DOESN'T  SAY THAT. MY NEXT QUESTION WAS  DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE OF AT  LEAST 2 TIMES 2 TIMES WHAT  OPERATIONS TO TIMES REVENUE,  WHAT IS 2 TIMES WHAT IS THAT  CLARIFICATION GOING TO BE  THAT'S NOT CLEARING HERE. YOU  KNOW WHAT IT IS I'M SURE SOME  OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS  KNOW WHAT IT IS I DON'T. I  DON'T KNOW IF THE CITIZENS  KNOW WHAT AND THIS REFERENDUM  IS CLEARLY TIED. THROUGHOUT  THE CONVERSATION THAT IT'S  GOING TO ALSO APPROVED FOR  THIS DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY TO  GET IT THE GUARDRAILS TO THE  CITIZENS. AND I. I'M NOT  SEEING WHAT IT IS IS IT THE  OPERATIONS OR IS IT THE  REVENUE.  >> SO SO FROM.  >> AND I KIND OF. YET THE  CITIZEN SIDE ITS EXPERIENCE  WITH CAR PAYMENTS AND MORTGAGE  PAYMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT  WHEN WE TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW  THAT'S A INCOME LOADS ON  MORTGAGES WERE TALKING ABOUT  MONTHLY PAYMENTS ON THE  MORTGAGE AND THEN WHAT PEOPLE  BRING IN INCOME THAT THAT'S  HOW THAT CALCULATIONS THEM  HERE SINCE OUR REVENUE PERIODS  ARE ALL OUGHT ON AN ANNUAL  BASIS. THERE IS NO DISTINCTION  FOR WHETHER IT'S ANNUAL OR  SEMI-ANNUAL I MEAN THE REVENUE  IT'S GOING TO BE COMPARED TO  THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THE  PERIOD THAT. THE CALCULATED  SO. THAT SERVICE. THIS ANNUAL  DEBT SERVICE JUST LIKE. NET  REVENUES ANNUAL REVENUE. I  DON'T THINK THERE'S VALUE IN  THAT DISTINCTION I THINK IF  THERE'S AN OPTICS VALUE  THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH  THAT. I THINK FROM THERE WE  WOULD HAVE TO. EXPLAIN WHETHER  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOND YEAR  OR THE SCHOOL YEAR OR THERE'S  A LOT OF DISTINCTIONS YOU CAN  MAKE ONCE YOU GO. IT'S THAT  LEVEL PEOPLE. AND THE  COVERAGES WHAT YOU'RE  COMPARING IT TO YOU. SO IF  IT'S THAT SERVICE COVERAGE.  IT'S THE COVERAGE OF THAT  SERVICE WITH THE REVENUE. IF  YOU'RE USING TO LIMIT YOURSELF  BY. SO THE SALE SURTAX DEBT  SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO. IS  THAT SERVICE. AND HOW MANY  TIMES THAT NT SALE SURTAX  ROAD.  >> SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, I  KNOW A LOT OF. I UNDERSTAND  WHAT A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND  TREE FUND EXAMPLE SURTAX IS  OWN CATEGORY BECAUSE IT'S  ONLINE 91.  >> ARE WE GOING TO BE USING  TREE FUND MONEY FOR SOMETHING  FOR SPECIAL REVENUE, WHAT YOU  KNOW THERE ARE SOME SPECIAL  REVENUE FUNDS I THINK SHOULD  BE LIKE OFF LIMITS.  >> FOR BEING ABLE TO ISSUE  DEBT OR BE ABLE TO PAY BACK  DEBT. TREE FUND TO ME IS ONE  OF  >> BUT THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING  HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION  ON.  >> I JUST. THE OTHER QUESTION  I HAVE IS. I I 94.  ♪ >> IT AND THEN BE IS THAT.  >> EITHER ONE IS THAT OR.  >> IS IT A B IS IT A AND B.  >> HOW DOES THAT WORK.  >> YES, THOSE A SUBSECTION  SUBSECTION UNDER THAT A TITLE  SEE UTILITY IS THAT A PRIZE  FUNDS WILL REQUIRE 150 DAYS  CASH, SO THAT MEANS 150 DAYS  OF OPERATING. IT'S NOT AND  WILL ALSO REQUIRE COVERAGE OF  AT LEAST 1.2 TIMES.  >> SHOULD CLEARLY STATE THAT I  MEAN I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING  AND YOUR WORDS ARE WONDERFUL  CAUSE IT'S ANSWERING MY  QUESTIONS. BUT. THIS POLICY IS  GOING TO SURVIVE YOU AND ME  AND PROBABLY EVERYBODY UP ON  THIS BOARD. SO WE NEED TO MAKE  SURE IT'S CLEAR FOR THE  FUTURE. I'M ALWAYS BEEN A  STICKLER ABOUT THAT BECAUSE  THESE DOCUMENTS TO SURVIVE US  TOO OFTEN I'VE SEEN DOCUMENTS.  >> THAT WE APPROVE WE  UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AND THEN  LIKE 5 OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW  IT'S WHAT WERE THEY THINKING.  SO A AND B SHOULDN'T SAY THAT.  >> I THINK IT DOES TO  PERSONALLY I THINK THE THE HAS  UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF I  THINK THINGS ARE POLICIES THAT  YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE  NORMALIZED DOCUMENTS AND  DISCLOSURE DOCUMENTS. THE ART  OF SPECIFIC IS POTENTIALLY  SOME YEAR. YEARS SO I THINK  THERE IS. EXPLANATION FOR WHY  WE EXPLAIN THE TERMS WE DO  MAYBE WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THE  TERMS THAT MISSIONS YES, BUT I  DON'T THINK IT. IT IS PRUDENT  TO GO OUTSIDE OF NORMAL  CONVENTION OF HOW MARKET LOOKS  OF THESE METRICS AND HOW THEIR  MEASURE TO COME UP WITH NEW  TERMS. NO ONE USES.  >> TERMS THAT NOBODY KNEW  SINCE I MEAN. DEBT POLICY IT  YOU'RE SAYING INDUSTRY  STANDARD. I'M 1, 28 I REMEMBER  DURING THE WORKSHOP, YOU SAID  THAT CREDIT ENHANCEMENTS IS  NOT SOMETHING THE CITY. IS  GOING TO DO SO WHY IS THAT IN  HERE.  >> IF YOU'RE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY  CORRECT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING  THE CITY CURRENTLY USES OR  COULD BENEFIT FROM. THERE IS  AN INSTANCE AND THERE IS A  CIRCUMSTANCE. MANY ACTUALLY  WERE IT COULD BENEFIT FROM.  CRAIG HANSEN.  >> THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT  YOU SAID IN THE WORKSHOP. BUT  OKAY. I JUST A FEW MORE  MINUTES, BUT I DO HAVE OTHER  YOU KNOW. IN A MINUTE VARIABLE  THAT GREAT. 20% VARIABLE THAT.  I'M NOT A FAN OF VARIABLE THAT  THIS IS NOT OUR MONEY, IT'S  TAXPAYERS MONEY. AND TO HAVE  20% OF THE DEBT WRAPPED UP  INTO A VARIABLE RATE THAT  COULD BE QUITE CHALLENGING  SHOULD MARKETS FLIPPED ONTO  THE NEGATIVE SIDE. I I WOULD  REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT JUST  LIKE 10% OF THE PORTFOLIO THE  VARIABLE RATE TO HELP PROTECT  THE FUTURE TAXPAYERS OF THE  CITY SHOULD THERE BE ANYTHING  THAT'S REALLY  ♪ BAD LIKE IF WE HAVE TOO MUCH  VARIABLE  ♪ THAT HOW HOW DID THE 20%  ARRIVE TO.  >> SO SAYS THEIR BIGGEST  THINGS I THINK ARE RIGHT. CAN  BE ALIGNED WITH. WITH THAT  INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE. SWAPS OR  OR OTHER TOOLS THAT WE'RE NOT  SUGGESTING WE USE I THINK  AFTER 2008 WHEN THE RATES WENT  DOWN THE CITY WOULD BENEFIT  GREATLY FROM HAVING CLOSE TO  0% THAT SO RATES GO UP. FIXED  RATE LOOKS BETTER IN AND AS  RATES ARE GOING DOWN FOR IT  LOOKS BETTER.  >> AND CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES  IF WE HAVE A VARIABLE RATE AND  I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY 2008 I  APOLOGIZE FOR THAT YEAR. BUT  THERE WAS A TIME WHERE  INTEREST RATES WERE  OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE.  >> THAT BECAME COMPLETELY  UNAFFORDABLE AND ABLE TO PAY  BACK NOT ONLY PERSONALLY FOR  PERSONAL BUT FOR CORPORATIONS  AND AND CITIES. SO I GO BACK  TO. HOW DID YOU GET 20% AND  WOULD BE MORE PRUDENT TO  CONSERVATIVE TO HAVE A LOWER  PORTFOLIO OF LIKE 10%.  >> MY RECOMMENDATION IS LIMIT  AND THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE  REASONABLE LIMIT. THERE ARE  FOLKS THAT HAVE HIGHER LIMITS  ARE FOLKS THAT HAVE LOWER  LIMITS, BUT I THINK 20%. THIS  RESULT, APPROPRIATE TO HAVE  SOME ACTS. I THINK THE  INSTANCE YOU WOULD USE 8 IS  LIMITED. WE HAVEN'T.  RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE SEAT  RIGHT THAT IN THE LAST 20  YEARS LEAST LAST 2 DECADES,  SHORT-TERM RATES HAVE BEEN  FORMAL COMPARED TO LONG-TERM  RATES.  >> I'VE REACHED MY 10 MINUTES  MAYOR, SO WE'LL ANYBODY ELSE  WANTS TO COME BUT I WILL NEED  A SECOND ROUND.  >> OK THANK I APPRECIATE ALL  INFORMATION YOU HAVE HERE AND  AND YOU ARE MANAGING DIRECTOR  OF THE.  >> FINANCIAL FINANCIAL  ADVISORS. THAT'S YOU READING  WAS DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING  THAT. YOU HAVE SAID THAT A NEW  POLICY. COULD IT WOULD BE  REVIEWED AND UPDATED EVERY 3  TO 5 YEARS AND SO THIS IS NOT  WRITTEN IN STONE STARS IT IS  ABLE TO BE CHANGE AS WE WORK  THROUGH THIS THIS IS BRAND NEW  FOR US SAYING HEY LET'S LET'S  DO THIS. ARE YOU SAYING  WHENEVER NECESSARY AFTER ITS  ADOPTION SO IF WE COME TO  DEFINE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD  MAKE A CHANGE WE COULD MAKE  THAT CHANGE BUT THIS WILL GET  THE BALL, ROLLING AND THAT'S  HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT.  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  >> YEAH I GOT A WHEN WE PASS  THE ORDINANCE IN JULY. THERE  WAS SOME WORDING IN THERE THAT  WAS BARRY. QUESTIONABLE BY THE  PUBLIC UNDER SAFETY PUBLIC  HEALTH WHERE IT STATED  INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO.  YOU KNOW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS  WITH THIS RESOLUTION DOESN'T  ENHANCE THE GUARDRAILS EVEN  MORE. GOING FORWARD.  >> I DON'T WANT TO WEIGH ON MY  REVIEW OF THE LEGAL  INTERPRETATION OF THAT  REFERENDUM LANGUAGE BECAUSE I  THINK THERE IS SOME SOME VERY  SPECIFIC SO I WOULD YIELD ON  THE LEGAL INTERPRETATION I  THINK FROM A FINANCIAL  PERSPECTIVE. THIS DOES NOT  PRODUCE ADDITIONAL OR GRILLS  UP.  >> THAT'S VERY QUESTIONABLE  OUT THERE IN THE JUST THOSE  FEW WORDS SO UNDERSTANDING IS  THE LIMITS ARE GOING TO BE  PLACED ON THINGS THAT  NON-EMERGENCY SO FOR EXAMPLE  WHEN THE MEETING TO. ESTABLISH  AN EMERGENCY ORDER FOR  HURRICANE THERE WAS FUNDING  REQUIREMENTS AS A RESULT AND  THAT DEBRIS CLEANUP AND THINGS  LIKE THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE  IT'S SORT OF ON ITS OWN MERITS  AND THAT THIS WOULD COVER.  OTHER MANSON'S BUT I DON'T  THINK THIS GETS INTO THE  SPECIFICS OF WHAT IS AND WHAT  IS NOT BE THE REFERENDUM  LANGUAGE.  >> OKAY BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND  THIS IS A RESOLUTION OTHER IS  AN ORDINANCE I JUST WANTED TO  GET THAT QUESTION OUT THERE TO  HOPEFULLY GET SOME. RESPONSE  JUST SORT HELP THE CITIZENS  UNDERSTAND THIS A LITTLE BIT  BETTER.  >> THAT AFFECT IT THERE IF  THERE IS A THAT WOULD BE  ILLEGAL. I AS OPPOSED TO  FINANCIALLY.  >> THANK ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> NOT SURE MAYBE THIS MIGHT  BE A CITY CLERK QUESTION. I'M  NOT BUT WHY IS IT A DEBT  MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.  AS OPPOSED TO A DEBT  MANAGEMENT ADVISORY BOARD.  IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY  UNDERSTANDING THE COMMITTEE'S  MORE TEMPORARY. WHERE IS AN  ADVISORY BOARD IS MORE  PERMANENT. AND THIS IS MORE OF  A PERMANENT FIXTURE WITH  WORKINGS OF THE CITY. SO I'M  CURIOUS.  IF THERE IS THE APPETITE TO  CHANGE IT TO BOARD.  >> IT'S LITTLE BIT YOU KNOW  AUTHORITY COMMITTEE KNOW WHAT  I'M SAYING YEAH, I MEAN.  >> TO ME IT SOUNDS VERY  SIMILAR. I THINK YOU KNOW THEY  COULD BE USED INTERCHANGEABLY  COMMITTEE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE  IS SOMETHING THAT IS A POINT  FOR PARTICULAR WOULD HAVE  CITIZEN. YOU KNOW COMMITMENT  TO BEING ON THE COMMITTEE THEN  I FRESH OLD MIGHT IN NEXT  LEVEL OF COMMITMENT. I'M NOT  SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE LEGAL  DISTINCTIONS ARE BETWEEN BUT I  IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR HOW I  SEE THEIR FUNCTION.  >> AND I KNOW THAT COMMITTEES  ARE A LITTLE BIT DONE  DIFFERENTLY. WE HAVE THE  MEDICAL TASK FORCE COMMITTEE  FOR EXAMPLE.  >> WE HAVE THE.  >> VETERANS PARK IT'S IT'S  MORE TEMPORARY ONCE ONCE THE  JOB IS DONE THEN THAT DOT.  >> WEARS AN ADVISORY BOARD IS.  ANY COMPLAINTS.  >> AND I THINK THAT DOES THAT.  >> COMMISSIONERS WOULD NOT  SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE THAT  COMMITTEE WOULD STILL. THANKS  SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS  THE CITY COMMISSION BUT THERE  WAS NO ACTION THE. COMMITTEE  COULD DO THAT COULD IMPACT.  FINANCINGS. OR  >> SO MY UNDERSTANDING BOARDS  PROVIDES STRATEGIC DIRECTION  MONDAYS HANDLE SPECIFIC TASKS  SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITIZENS  TAX OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, THE  OTTER SELECTION COMMITTEE TO  HANDLE THOSE SPECIFIC TASKS  AND THEN WE HAVE LIKE THE  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD  WHICH JUST PROVIDES STRATEGIC  DIRECTION. SO THAT'S MY  UNDERSTANDING.  >> WITH THIS COMMITTEE'S  RECOMMENDATIONS BE MORE GEARED  STRATEGICALLY. I'M JUST KIND  OF THROWING IT OUT THERE. I  MEAN I I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES OF  THE COIN I JUST WANTED TO  BRING IT UP IS A QUESTION FOR  POSSIBLE DISCUSSION TO MAKE  SURE WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT  TITLE.  >> OF THIS.  >> OF PEOPLE SCHOOL.  >> COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT I  WANTED TO BRING IS. WE HAD.  >> DURING THE WORKSHOP I  REMEMBER LONG-TERM AND  SHORT-TERM THE DEFINITION OF I  DID NOT SEE THAT IN HERE IS  THE REASON WE WEREN'T DEFINING  IT BECAUSE. EVERYBODY HAS A  LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT  OPINION AS TO WHAT LONG-TERM  AND SHORT-TERM IS AND SURE  THAT YOU ALSO HAVE A  DIFFERENCE OF OPINION IS TOO  LONG TERM SHORT TERM. WHEN I  GOOGLED IT FOR BINDING THEY  WERE KIND OF ALL OVER THE  PLACE TOO AND I KNOW IT'S COOL  BUT IT WOULD REALLY BE. WEISS  IN MY OPINION TO JUST DEFINED  WHAT WE.  >> ARE CALLING LONG-TERM AND  WE ARE CALLING SHORT TERM.  >> IS THERE A REASON THAT THEY  WANT TO FIND KNOW KIND OF  TALKED ABOUT IT DURING  WORKSHOP.  >> YEAH, AND DO RECALL THE  CONVERSATION I THINK ANY TIME  WE REFER TO LONG-TERM DEBT.  IT'S TO TERM OF THE  AMORTIZATION AND THE  DEPRECIATION OF NASA. SO.  COULD BE DIFFERENT FOR  DIFFERENT ASSETS AND FOR  DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT DIFFERENT.  THINGS THAT CITY WITH FINANCE.  THE FINDING SHORT TERM MEANS  IF THE FINDING A MEDIUM TERM  AND THEN THE FIGHTING A LONG  TERM A NEW AD, DIFFERENT  ELEMENTS POLICY THAT AREN'T  NECESSARILY YOU ADD VALUE TO  THIS POLICY. BUT I THINK SHORT  TERM IS IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S  IN PLACE UNTIL A LONG-TERM  FINANCING CAN BE PUT IN PLACE  AND I THINK THAT'S STANDARD  UNDERSTANDING.  >> AND LINE 11 IT SAYS ANY  FUTURE CHANGES ARE EXCEPTIONS  TO THIS DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY  REQUIRE APPROVAL BY COMMISSION  IN THE CHARTER IT SAYS BY 2  READINGS AND I THINK IT WOULD  IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST  THAT THE CHARTER MATCH THIS  POLICY THAT IT IS 2 READINGS  OF A RESOLUTION. SO IT REALLY  SHOULD BE ADDED BACK IN THERE.  ADDED IN THERE THAT IT IS 2  READINGS BECAUSE CHARTER IS 2  READINGS. IF IT GETS APPROVED  FOR HIS. THE OTHER THING IS I  WOULD I I PERSONALLY THINK  THAT EVERYTHING FROM WIND 74  TO LINE 98 SHOULD BE IN THE  CHARTER. THAT WAY THEN IF IT  GETS CHANGED HAS TO GO BACK  BEFORE THE VOTERS OBVIOUSLY IT  IS FAR TOO LATE TO DO THAT  WITH THIS CHARTER REFERENDUM.  BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE  INCLUDED IN THE CHARTER FOR  THE NEXT TIME AROUND IF WE  DOING SPECIAL ELECTIONS OR ANY  ELECTION THAT'S COMING UP IN  2026. THERE REALLY SHOULD BE  SOME GUARDRAILS PUT INTO THE  CHARTER AND INCLUDE THOSE.  SENT PARAMETERS. BUT THAT  THAT'S MY OPINION I'M I'M JUST  THROWING IT OUT THERE. THAT'S  ALL I THIS POINT.  >> I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY ELSE  AND ON THAT SURE IT'S CORRECT.  SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON HAVE  A COMMENT. DAVID DO  >> IT WAS ABOUT CITIZEN PORT.  IF I GO NEW CAR. AND THEY  ASKED ME TO SIGN A LINE OF  THAT THEY'RE GOING TO. THEY  COME IN THAT CONTRACT  AFTERWARDS. I'M NOT IT.  >> YOU HAVE.  >> HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS  OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY VOTED  AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING  POOR EVERS. THAT THEY CHANGE  ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. AFTER  THE FACT. THE FACT. JUST AS  THE GENTLEMAN DESCRIBED SO  THAT THINGS WILL BE REVIEWED  AND UPDATED. THAT MEANS THAT  WILL WE CAN CHANGE IT. I THINK  THIS WHOLE THING NEEDS TO BE  REDONE AND THIS TIME.  REMEMBERS THOSE METRICS NEED  TO BE PUT INTO THE CHART  THINGS THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED.  >> I THINK  >> THAT SERVICE REVENUE IS IT  IS A GOOD ONE. OKAY BECAUSE.  >> THE REVENUES GO UP AND ALL.  >> FOR YEARS.  >> YOU WANT TO HAVE. LIMIT. WE  DON'T DOLLAR LIMITS. YOU DON'T  NEED TO SAY 50 MILLION  PROJECT. 1 BILLION ON A 100  PROJECTS OR SPEND A  100 BILLION YUAN ONE PROJECT.  IF YOU  >> WE'LL ASK TO BE THAT THIS  CITY PIECE IT'S A RATING OR  BETTER. AND THAT'S WHAT  PARAMETERS HAVE TO BE. THANK  YOU. CHUCK ENGLISH.  >> YOU I GET THE MORE I THINK  >> THOSE CHAIRS. THAT MANDATE  POLICY YOU SUCK UP TO THE  REFERENDUM. CERTAIN ASPECTS OF  IT. IN 2. THE ORIGINALLY  PROPOSED. DOCUMENT YOU'VE COME  A LONG WAY WHEN IT WAS FIRST  PUT FORTH. THERE ARE STILL  SOME ISSUES. THE PROBLEM. IS  IT. EVERYONE. THIS POLICY, THE  SET GUIDELINES AND COURSE OF  ACTION THAT COULD BE TAKEN. OR  THE REFERENDUM. THE BIGGEST  PROBLEM IS THAT. MANY BELIEVE  THE REFERENDUM SHOULD HAVE  BEEN 2 PARTS. IT SHOULDN'T  HAVE BEEN A SINGLE REFERENDUM  BECAUSE IT'S INFORMATION IT'S  LACKING DEFINITIONS. THAT NEED  TO BE OUTLINED. AND THEN VIGIL  RESIDENT OVER 40 YEARS. I  SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING  REASONING 4. THIS REFERENDUM.  INFRASTRUCTURE IS BECOMING A  COOLER CRITICAL HEALTH SAFETY  AND WELFARE ISSUE. THAT MEANS  BE ADDRESS. BUT ALSO HAVE TO  START THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS  CAUSING. THIS CRITICAL. ALL  RIGHT AND. MANY OF US BELIEVE  WE KNOW WHAT IS BUT NOBODY'S  EVER OUTLINED WHAT IT IS AND  ONE OF THE THINGS MISSING IN  CITIES PRESENTATION TO THE  CITIZENS IS WHAT HAPPENS IF WE  DON'T DO THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY  SPECIFIC UTILIZING THEIR  CRYSTAL BALL. EXPERT TESTIMONY  LINE THAT SURFACE, IT IS. THE  NEED IS REAL. I BELIEVE THIS  MEETING WILL. SET THE COURSE.  BASED ON SOME OF THE AGENDA  ITEM AS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN  TO REFERENDUM. AND IF IT DOES  COME PROBABLY SHOULD. THE  CRITICAL NEED IS OUTLINING IN  GREATER DETAIL. WE CAN'T KEEP  PUT OUT THERE SPRAWL AND THAT  ADDRESSING THE PROPHET. SUSAN  BOUCHER. SINCE SOME BOMBER.  >> JUST RESIDENT WHO LIVES  DOWN THE STREET. TRYING TO  UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS OF  REALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT  THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS  REALLY IMPORTANT IS SOMETHING  THAT THE CITY NEEDS BUT IT'S  GOT TO BE DONE IN THE RIGHT  WAY.  >> AND.  >> AS A CITIZEN OF PORT. DON'T  JUST TELL ME THAT. I NEED TO  TRUST THE PEOPLE LEFT THERE  ARE A LOT OF CITIZENS IN NORTH  PORT WHO AREN'T GOING  PARTICIPATE IN THE ELECTION  PROCESS AND THERE WOULDN'T BE.  INCLUDED IN THIS. AND I GET  SUCH AS THE TEACHER IN ME, BUT  MEAL ABOUT THIS EXPLAIN IT TO  ME WHEN ARE ASKING THIS  GENTLEMAN QUESTIONS. IT DIDN'T  REALLY AND SIR ANYTHING YOU  SAID IT'S LIKE EXPLAIN SHOW WE  PUT ANNUAL IN FRONT OF IT THAT  WAS HER QUESTIONS THAT AND  IT'S LIKE WE HAVE TO  UNDERSTAND THAT IN THESE TERMS  THIS IS YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING  TO HAPPEN. AS A TEACHER I CAN  SAY THAT I'M A STUDENT. SO  DON'T WORRY JUST TO BELIEVE  WHAT I SAY. THAT'S NOT BEING A  GOOD TEACHER AND YOU'RE THE  COMMISSION AND YOU NEED TO  TEACH US.  AND LET US KNOW EXACTLY.  YOU'RE TRYING HOW YOU'RE  TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. I GUESS  IS WHAT I WANT TO SAY. AGAIN A  LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT IT. BUT  THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE  WAITING ON. HEART TO MAKE THAT  DECISION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT  YOU REALLY WANT AND I AGREE  WITH WHAT THEY SAID YOU KNOW I  THINK MAYBE SHOULD HAVE BEEN  IN 2 PARTS. WE'RE PROGRESSING.  WE HAVE TO GO ON. BUT. HOW WAS  SO. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO  EXPLAIN IT. A BET THERE ARE A  LOT OF PEOPLE WAITING TO SEE  WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS  MANAGEMENT POLICY IN ORDER TO  MAKE THE DECISION INCLUDING  MAKE. ONE AND KNOW THAT IT'S  THERE ARE THINGS SET IN STONE  THAT I CAN RELY ON NO MATTER  WHAT. HERE ARE SOME STOPS HERE  ARE SOME GOT FUNDS FOR THE  CITY AND THEN IT'S NOT GOING  TO BE CHANGED IN THE MIDDLE.  OF EITHER A DISCUSSION. PLEASE  JUST THINK ABOUT JUST THE  REGULAR CITIZEN WHO HAS THANK  YOU. THANK ROBIN SIMPSON  THING.  ♪ ♪ >> I WAS TELLING ME SO SO YOU  HAVE TO MY LEGS. I'M GOING TO  DO WHAT A LOT OF THEM IS  SAYING. YOU'RE OUT THERE IS  HELP UNITED TOWARDS WHO'S  EVERYTHING YOU CAN AND WE  APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.  HOWEVER, IT'S NOT ENOUGH  BECAUSE A QUESTION TO STILL  NOT ANSWERED. THEY'RE NOT  CLEAR. ARE GOODS THAT IN THE  DEBT MANAGEMENT SIDE HAS TOO  MANY LOOPHOLES. JUST IN THE  VERBIAGE ALONE. AND WHAT  DIDN'T WHAT REVENUE DEBT A LOT  OF QUESTIONS THAT WE AS  CITIZENS. YOU SAY TO TRUST AND  WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO  BE ON THE BOARD HAD JUST HEARD  FROM WHAT WILL IT THE TERM  AFTER THAT. WHAT LEADERSHIP  WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SO WE  SHOULD JUST. GO WITH WHAT WE  HAVE HERE. MORE DETAILED PUT  IN HERE TO SECURE. OUR TRUST  IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY  THE WAY IT'S WORDED NOW IT'S  TOO WIDESPREAD, IT'S TOO MANY  TO MAYBE POLLS. FOR US TO SAY  THAT A TRUST AND OKAY. OKAY  FOR HOW SHOULD BE CHANGED BY  THE NEXT BOARD. THAT'S THE  WHOLE PROBLEM I WE NEED SECURE  LANGUAGE IN THERE. THAT  DEFINITIVELY STATES. BUT YOU  NOW HAVE THE CITIZENS TRUST.  AND THE AND THE OTHER THING  I'M GOING TO SAY IS THAT THE  MARKET SATURATION. THAT'S  GOING ON WITH GET THE WORK  DONE. THERE'S 2 SIDES TO THE  COIN EVERY SINGLE TIME. I  DON'T CARE WHAT ISSUE IT IS  WHAT'S  GOING ON. IT'S NOT ALWAYS GAY.  THIS IS NOT KNOW. THERE'S  ANOTHER SIDE TO IT. OUR SIDE  WITH QUESTIONS WITHOUT DOUBT  BECAUSE OF THE WAY OTHER  COMMISSIONS HAVE BEEN TREATING  US. AND HAVE BEEN DOING. I  WITH THE COMMISSION'S BEFORE  THE WHAT THE HECK WAS GOING  ON. YOU KNOW THIS COMMISSION  HAPPENS TO BE A REALLY GOOD  COMMISSION. THAT'S THIS  COMMISSION. AGAIN WE DON'T  KNOW. THIS IS NOT SECURE  ENOUGH TO HAVE THE SAFETY OF  THE COMMUNITY TO JUST SAY YES  AND I BELIEVE LIKE EVERYONE'S  THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN  2 DIFFERENT. REFERENDUMS IT  DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE HAD THE  EMERGENCY PAST AND WE KNOW OUR  CITY IS AGING AND WE KNOW IS  SO MANY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO  DO. BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN  NOW. IT'S TO IT'S TO OPEN.  WELL TO BE ABLE TO TRUST YOU  AS PEOPLE LIKE US TO  ♪ HIS PEOPLE. BUT AS  COMMISSIONERS AND SOMETHING  THE PROJECT  ♪ COMES UP. AND I HAVE MIKE  THAT'S BECAUSE OF BE DONE  HERE. SO THE MORE DETAILED YOU  CAN PUT IT WHETHER YOU THINK  IT'S. NOT WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW  WHAT DO YOU THINK IT'S  RIDICULOUS IF IT MAKES US  UNDERSTAND MORE INTEREST  YOU MORE YOU SHOULD DO IT.  THAT MAKES US TRUST WHAT YOU  SHOULD DO IT. WHAT'S THE BIG  THING UP. THANK YOU. YEAH.  >> SO WE HAVE NO ONLINE OR  VOICEMAIL COMMENTS FOR THIS  ONE. ALL RIGHT SO MOVING ON TO  6 IMPOSING THIS PORTION OF THE  PUBLIC LOOKING FOR A MOTION.  POOR EMOTION. MAKE IT GO  AHEAD.  >> WELL I APPRECIATE THAT  BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION THAT.  NO POLICY EVER PERFECT WELL I  APPRECIATE THAT. PEOPLE WOULD  LOVE TO SEE EVERY WORD TO FIND  EVERY FORMULA QUALIFIED TO THE  DEGREE THAT JUST ISN'T REALITY  AND IN COMPARING. THIS  MANAGEMENT POLICY WITH.  >> POLICIES OF COMPARABLE  CITIES AND COUNTIES ON. THIS  IS WAY MORE ROBUST. IT IS  INCLUSIVE ALMOST EVERY ASPECT  OF EVERY OTHER THAT MANAGEMENT  POLICY THAT WAS REVIEWED. IT'S  THE BEST DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE  PUT FORTH. IT WILL NO WAY AS I  SAID EARLIER SATISFY THOSE  PEOPLE WHO AND WHO DO NOT WANT  TO GIVE UP THAT CONTROL. AND  IF THAT'S THE WISHON WILL  CITIZENRY. SOMETIME SHORTLY  AFTER THE 5TH NOVEMBER WE WILL  HAVE THAT ANSWER SO WITH THAT  I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE  TO CONTINUE RESOLUTION NUMBER  2024 DASH OR 57 TO SECOND  READING NOVEMBER 4TH 2024.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE VICE MAYOR STOKES TO  CONTINUE RESOLUTION NUMBER  2024 DASH R DASH 57 TO THE  SECOND READING WHICH WILL BE  SCHEDULED NOVEMBER 4TH AND  THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF  THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER LET'S  VOTE.  >> MAKE AN AMENDMENT.  >> WE HAVE BEEN ON THE MIDDLE  IT. YEAH WE'RE VOTING YOU MADE  A MOTION WE HAVE VOTE I CAN  WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN  AMENDMENT.  >> THE MOTION WAS TO CONTINUE  IT RIGHT. I AM ASKING TO MAKE  AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION  RIGHT. SO THAT WAY THEN I CAN  VOTE FOR THIS TOUR. ALL RIGHT  WE HAVE THERE'S NOTHING THAT  TEAM FROM FOR AN AMENDMENT  THAT'S GOING OKAY FOR THE  BOARD.  >> NOW. MICHAEL SCREEN NEVER  CAME UP. WITH 3 OF US ALREADY  VOTED THAT'S THAT'S OKAY, GO  AHEAD. OH GO AHEAD. ALREADY  VOTED AND YOU DON'T WANT TO  HEAR AMENDMENT GOOD WE SHARE  WAS CLEARED SO. COMMISSIONER.  IT'S BEEN CLEARED. THANK YOU  WELL, SEEMS LIKE I'D LIKE TO  MAKE AN AMENDMENT. THIS  AMENDMENT JUST TO BE ABLE TO  FIND A COMPROMISE. WHEN IT I'M  NOT TOO SURE HOW TO WORD OF  THE AMENDMENT, SO LET ME TALK  THROUGH IT AND THEN I WILL GET  TO MY  >> AND.  >> I THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE  BEST INTEREST AT A FEW WORDS  TO THIS POLICY THROUGHOUT TO  THOSE SECTIONS OF 74 TO 98.  WHERE IT SAYS LIKE THAT POP  DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE TO JUST  ADD THE WORD AND WILL FRONT OF  IT. WHERE IT AT LEAST 2 TIMES  OR WHATEVER THAT TIMES. MATRIX  TO ADD OF THE REVENUE SO THAT  WAY THEN EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TIMES  REVENUE. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M  GOING WITH IT SO NOW I WILL  MAKE MY AMENDMENT I'D LIKE TO  MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO HAVE  STAFF CLARIFIED BEFORE SECOND  READING THAT THE DEBT SERVICE  COVERAGE IS ANNUAL DEBT  SERVICE AND ANY TIME THAT IT  IS REFERENCE TO BE OF AT LEAST  AND THEN THERE'S 2 TIMES OR 3  TIMES OR ONE AND A HALF TIMES  THAT IT SAYS ALL AT LEAST  LINK. ALL OF THE REVENUE. YOUR  COMPLETE MOMENT. OKAY.  >> CITY CLERK THAT BACK.  >> TO DIRECT STAFF TO CLARIFY  FOR SECOND READING THAT THE  DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE IS  ANNUAL AND ANYTIME IT IS  REFERENCE TO BE AT LEAST. IT  SAYS OF AT LEAST BLANK OF THE  REVENUE NOW.  >> CAPTURED A SO THAT'S THE  AMENDMENT MADE BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION  SECOND SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> I CERTAINLY HAVE NO  OBJECTION TO ADDING ANNUAL I  THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF  SENSE. I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT  THE PERCENTAGE OF BLANKETS  REVENUE, SO IT MAY BE MAY NOT  I JUST DON'T SO I WOULDN'T BE  SUPPORTIVE OF THAT  SPECIFICALLY BUT I WOULD BE  SUPPORTIVE OF ADDING ANNUAL.  BITE WANT TO. YEAH I'D LIKE TO  COMMENT.  >> NO PROBLEM TO SPEND THE  NIGHT ALL WHILE I WOULDN'T BY  SAYING. IN THE WORLD OF  FINANCE AS SO MANY TECHNICAL  ROLES. THERE IS LANGUAGE.  THERE  WORDS SPEAK THAT PEOPLE IN  THOSE INDUSTRIES UNDERSTAND  AND AND THE ESTABLISHED  LANGUAGE IN THE STATEMENT  POLICY SHIFTS THAT I  APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. ROBIN  MADE AND AND COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL MAY. AS I'VE SAID ALL  ALONG IT IF IT DOESN'T CALL  FOR MOYES THE BASIC INTENT OF  WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND WHAT  WE'RE ASKING. ADDING A COUPLE  OF WORDS HERE AND THERE. IT'S  NOT A PROBLEM FOR ME AND I  THINK GIVES. AND NEXT TRIP  OVER TO THAT DEGREE OF  COMFORT. TO FEEL SUPPORTIVE  THIS FORWARD. I DON'T THINK IT  HURT US IN ANY WAY IT THEIRS.  THOSE THAT ACCUSTOMED TO  READING FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS IN  THIS KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT'S  MEANT. BUT WAS THAT DO. DON'T  KNOW THAT AND N WORD TO THAT  MANAGEMENT IT'S PART OF THAT  DAMAGE WHO CAN MAKE IT THE WAY  WE WANT IT AND SAY EXTRA FEW  WORDS THAT MAY CREATE THAT  ADDITIONAL DEGREE OF COMFORT  AGAIN THIS DOES COME DOWN TO  WHAT DEGREE OF TRUST AND THE  CITIZENS FEEL COMFORTABLE.  EXTENDING THAT THE DEGREE OF  TRUST THAT OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE  TO GET THIS THING PASSED AND  SO I'M ALL IN ON THIS SIDE ON  A TO TO NO-BRAINER IT IN MY  ESTIMATION. IF I MAY.  >> TO THE AMENDMENT IF THE  PERCENT RATHER THAN SAYING  PERCENT OF REVENUE WITH WE  ADDED WHATEVER IT IS A  PERCENTAGE I WOULD BE  COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. AND  AGAIN I THINK WE HAVE TO  ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE DID NOT  CREATE THIS DEPTH POLICY FOR  THE WE CREATED THIS STEP  POLICY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF  THIS CITY, THANK YOU SO THAT  THEY CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE SO.  >> SO IF IF  >> MOTION MAKER OF THE  AMENDMENT MAKER WOULD BE  WILLING TO TO MODIFY THE  SECOND PART THAT SAID WHEN  IT'S AS A PERCENTAGE OF  SOMETHING THAT WE PUT THAT  SOMETHING RATHER SPECIFYING  REVENUE I I BECAUSE WITH THAT.  >> IF I MAY SPEAK TO MY  AMENDMENT. REASON WHY I SAID  OF IT LEAST 2 OR 3 YEAR ONE  0.5 TIMES OF THE REVENUES  BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PFM  PERSON SAY IT IS OF THE  REVENUE BECAUSE I ASKED IS IT  OF OPERATING REVENUE AND SHE  REVENUE. SO THAT'S WHY I USE  THE WORDS OF REVENUE. SO.  >> IF I COMMISSIONER WITH YOU  BECAUSE HE DID SAY IT AND AND  YOU KNOW YOU PER CAPITA YOU  HAVE THAT PER TAXABLE ASSESSED  VALUE PER PERCENTAGE OF RED  THAT'S NOT WHERE THERE'S THE  ACTS RIGHT BUT. IF HE SPENT IF  IT WAS SPECIFIED FOR EACH OF  THOSE. REVENUES NOT LIKE  MISTER LANGDON KING. THEN IT'S  REALLY POINT TO EACH OF THESE  FORMULAS, WHAT SHE'S TRYING  SAY THEY'RE NOT REVENUE,  CORRECT ME IF I'M JEREMY, A.  >> YEAH, I'M NOT SURFACE PER  PER. THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK  YOU'RE SAYING THE SAME IN AND  I THINK SOME CLARITY HERE IS.  THIS NOT AN ISSUE SO COME BACK  FOR SECOND IT'S GOT TO COME  BACK AND I THINK IT'S THE  EXTENT THE WEATHER JUST A  CONFUSION OF WHETHER TIMES  REVENUE OR 2 TIMES THAT  SERVICE WE I THINK WE COME UP  WORDSMITH AND PROVIDE SOME  CLARITY ON SO WHEN IT'S 2  TIMES ITS YOUR REVENUES 2  TIMES DEBT SERVICE THAT'S  REQUIREMENT. AND IF WE SAY  REVENUES 2 TIMES ANNUAL DEBT  SERVICE. THAT'S THAT'S GREAT.  SO. SO IT'S SOME OF THE. OUR  FACING YOU KNOW CHANGE WILL  EFFECTIVE I THINK YOUR POINT  FOR MESSAGING COMMUNICATING  TO. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S  VALUE TO THAT SO SO CERTAINLY  THAT IT WILL BE A PROBLEM.  >> THIS WHOLE THAT POLICY  STARTED WITH TO GIVE  GUARDRAILS TO THE CITIZENS.  THAT'S HOW THIS ALL STARTED  AND THEN IT MORPHED AGAIN  THINGS MORE WITHOUT BEING  TOLD, BUT THEY MORE INTO THIS  IS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD  DOCUMENT THAT THE INDUSTRY IS  GOING TO FOLLOW THE NEWS LIKE  WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CITIZENS.  >> I I APPRECIATE THE I  APPRECIATE THAT IT WILL COME  BACK FOR SECOND READING.  >> AND I WILL CRITIQUE IT AT  THAT TIME FURTHER THE  AMENDMENT.  >> OKAY SO MEAN I'M SURE THAT  WE'RE WE'RE IN THAT SO WE'RE  GOING TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON I TAKE NO ARE VOTING  THAT AND I ASKED AS 5 TO 0 NOW  WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON MOTION  TO CONTINUE TO SECOND READING  ON NOVEMBER 4TH AS AMENDED.  AND THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. OKAY  OK WITH TO DO THE COMMITTEE  RIGHT AWAY WE'RE ON THE  ♪ SAME SUBJECT.  >> WHAT HOW WHEN YOU WANT TO  COME  ♪ >> I IT'S OK SO ONE 47 WE WILL  BE  >> AND EVACUATION PLAN WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN A ZONE THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE  FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN  STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE  YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO  GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S  HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE  EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS  STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND  THE STORM 3RD OPTION WOULD BE  GO TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH  MORE COMFORTABLE THAN I BACK  AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S 4TH OPTION  WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE OF OUR  EVACUATION CENTER SARASOTA  COUNTY HAS FALLEN BACK AWAY  SHUNS CENTER'S. THOSE CAN BE  FOUND ON THEIR WEBSITE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOVES OF  EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR CITY  WORK AND I'M GOING DISCUSS  FIRST RESPONDERS AFTER STORM,  SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE FOR  FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET TO  STORM AND DUE TO A VARIETY OF  REASONS. ONE ALL FIRST  RESPONDERS OFF THE ROADS, THE  TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE  SUSTAINED FOR THEIR SAFETY AND  THAT IS A STANDARD AND OTHER  SO WE WILL HAVE A BACKLOG OF  CALLS THAT HAVE COME IN DURING  THE STORM THAT WILL PRIORITIZE  BASED ARE GOING TO ANOTHER  RESPONDING TO AS WELL AS THE  CALLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON  THEM. ALSO ON THE ROADS MIGHT  BE FLOODED. THERE MIGHT BE  DEBRIS IN THE ROADS ARE  TECHNICAL PERSON TEAMS WILL BE  GOING OUT RIGHT AWAY TO CLEAR  THE ROADS ANY HAUSER'S US SO  THAT OUR VEHICLES CAN GET  THROUGH AND RESPOND  ♪ THE CAUSE. JUST KEEP THAT IN  MIND WHEN YOU CALL AFTER  DISASTER FOR CITIZENS, WE ARE  COMING. WE ARE VERY IMPORTANT  AS WE CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENT  AND THAT SAFETY, BUT IT MAY  JUST TAKE A WHILE FOR US TO  GET TO THE SCENE ON THE OF THE  WRECK.  ♪ >> EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARIO  OF NVIDIA I AM THE PLAN OR  SCHEDULE OR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE A  GOOD INTO THIS POSITION. FIRST  I WAS RECYCLE DRIVER FOR 5  YEARS FOR THE AND THEN I  BECAME THE PLAN A SCHEDULE  AFTER TAKING AN INTEREST  EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERTY MY POSITION  MY DAY-TO-DAY USUALLY I START  OUT BY VISITING THE NEW  RESIDENTS THAT SCHEDULE  GARBAGE AND RECYCLING  CONTAINERS TO BE DELIVERED  AND.  >> I WILL GO SEE THEM AND  EDUCATE THEM ON A SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE  FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER  THAT I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE  CITY AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT  RECYCLE  ♪ CONTAINERS MANUALLY FOR  CONTAMINATION. AND THEN I WILL  TAKE CALLS FROM DRIVERS IF  THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITHOUT  REPEAT. GARBAGE RECYCLE AND I  WILL  ♪ GO EDUCATE THE WHAT I LOVE  MOST ABOUT THE  ♪ NORFORK IS THERE ARE RESIDENTS  ARE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. I  GET TO LEARN ABOUT THE SOLID  WASTE GUIDELINES WHEN THEY  COME FROM AS WELL AS EDUCATE  THEM ON THE CITY NORTH PORT'S  ALWAYS GUIDELINES HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERLY.  ♪ ♪ >> DECIDED TO BECOME A  FIREFIGHTER USED TO WORK  HOSPITALITY AND GROUP SALES  AND I ALWAYS HAD FRIENDS THAT  WORK. FIREFIGHTERS AND I  DECIDED ONE DAY THAT I WANTED  MY JOB DONE PEOPLE SO.  >> I WENT AHEAD UT AND  PARAMEDIC PROGRAM WITH THE  FIRE AND  ♪ I SAW A NORTH WE'RE HIRING.  >> AND REALLY LIKED WHAT THEY  HAD ON THEIR BETWEEN THEIR ISO  RATING.  >> BELIEFS AND VALUES AND  EVERYTHING 5, THEY GAVE ME AN  OPPORTUNITY EVERY DAY IS  DIFFERENT BUT FOR THE MOST  PART YOU START OFF THE SAME.  ♪ WHAT WAS GET OUR YEAR ONTO  THE. BRAD US MAKE SURE  EVERYTHING'S OPERATIONAL AND  OUR AIR BACK. ALSO  ♪ CHECKED INVENTORY. MAKE SURE  WE HAVE ALL OUR MEDICAL  EQUIPMENT. EVERYTHING'S THAT  WAY YOU CAN RESPOND TO ANY  EMERGENCY SO WE'RE ALWAYS  STOCKED AND READY TO GO I  THINK THE BEST PART IS THAT  EVERYONE'S PASSION ABOUT THEIR  JOB. SO THEY COME TO WORK AND  THEY'RE READY TO TRAIN AND  TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND  TEACH EACH OTHER SO EVERYONE'S  SHARPENED  ♪ ON THEIR A GAME SO IT MAKES IT  OFTEN AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD  TO COME TO WORK.  >> I'M STACEY LOS SALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN PLUG DOWNS AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS. SO FLOOD  ZONES ARE GENERATED BY FEMA  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL  FLOOD AND THEY'RE USED TO  DETERMINE IF YOU NEED FLOOD  INSURANCE IF YOU HAVE A  MORTGAGE ON YOUR HOME. NOW THE  EVACUATION ZONES ARE BASED ON  STORM SURGE DATA THAT COMES  FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE  CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  >> AND I PROMISE ALWAYS  INTERESTED IN PORT. HERE  TODAY, WITH MARY OF ANY PLAYER  SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT SOLID WASTE DIVISION  WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT  PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A  SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT  SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD  NOT GO OUT TO THE CURRENT  WHERE TO PLACE THE ITEM TO  THEM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE  MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF  OF THE YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW  WE CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8,  0, 50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER  SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT  HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE  DO THAT.  >> CAN ALSO GO ON A  WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT  CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL  OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO  WHEN IN DOUBT.  >> IF A PERSON WANTS TO PLAY  SET OUT WHAT YOU THINK PLACE  OUT WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS THE  WRONG THING BASICALLY FRANK  ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN  THE CONTAINER THAT'S GARBAGE  IS GOING TO GO CURBSIDE GOING  TO STAY OFF DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S  NOT ACCEPT IT IS TIRES  CHEMICALS.  >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT  YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S  CONSIDERED BALK BUT JUST MAKE  SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM  GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A  SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT  HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP  BOTH VICTIMS ARE A GOOD  QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE  BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE 1650  A CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S LINKED  TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT DIVIDED  BY 27 IS ONE COULD BE COUNTED  ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S  NOT GIVE US A CALL  941-240-8050.  >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE.  >> IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER STORM EVENT  WATER SHOULD  ♪ BE IN THAT SWELL TO 72 HOURS  AFTER THE STORM. THAT ALLOWS  THE WATER BUILT TO GET THE  STUFF THAT CAME OUT FOR ROOM  AND ON THE ROAD OUT OF THE  WATER SO THAT WHEN REACHES THE  HABITAT IT NO LONGER HAS THOSE  CONTAMINANTS  ♪ IT ALSO PROVIDES AN  OPPORTUNITY TO SLOW DOWN  WATERS SO THAT THE WATER  DOESN'T GO SO FAST THAT THEIR  ROADS.  >> ROADWAYS OR ANY OTHER  INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU  SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU KNOW UP  TO  ♪ >> 72 HOURS SINCE THE LAST  RAIN THAT IS NOT LETTING THAT  IS DOING ITS JOB.  >> I'M STACEY LOS YOU KNOW ON  THE EMERGENCY IN 1ST QUARTER  THEY ARE GOING STORM SURGE AND  FLOODING NEXT OR SO STORM  SURGE IS STRONG SUSTAINED  WINDS ARE CONSTANTLY GOING  OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME  OVER THE GOAL PUSHING WATER UP  ONTO WILL NOT HAPPEN. THERE'S  A LOT OF FLOODING A LOT OF  BEACH EROSION ALONG TEACHER  AND THE HOME. HOWEVER THIS  STORM CAN ALSO PUSH WATER OF  THE RIVER PUSHED ON THE MYAKKA  RIVER FOR INSTANCE, GULF AND  THEN THE WATER COMING  DOWNSTREAM FROM THE RIVER HAS  ORDERED TO BECAUSE WATER TO  BACK THAT ALONG WITH A LOT OF  RAIN THAT COMES FROM ALSO  CAUSED INCREASE OF WATER  FLOODING INTO THE RIVER  ♪ AND INTO OUR WATER MANAGEMENT  CAUSING FLOODING WELL. PUBLIC  WORKS WITH A LOT OF WORK  BEFORE THE STORM TO MAKE SURE  THAT OUR WATER LEVELS POSSIBLE  FOR AND THE WAR AGAINST STORM  SURGE FLOODING IN OUR WATER  SYSTEMS IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL  INFORMATION  ♪ ON THAT AGREED TO A DEAL BUT A  LOT FOLKS  >> REX HAS A FULL CLASS TRX  CAMP IS A NEW CLASS FOR ME,  ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN USING TRS  FOR MANY YEARS WITH PERSONAL  TRAINING THAT I DO OR IN OTHER  STYLE CLASSES THAT I'VE DONE.  BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUS WITH JUST  TRX THIS IS A NEW CLASSROOM. I  LOVE THE CAMARADERIE AT TO SAY  WITH ALL THE PARTICIPANTS. I  THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN.  ♪ FIRST OF ALL EVERYONE GETS TO  THE MANS THAT YEAR EXPENSE OF  BEING THAT WE HAVE 5 STATIONS  SO WE HAVE OVERFLOW OR MORE  THAN 5 PEOPLE. PART OF THE  PEOPLE ON THEM AND THE OTHER  PEOPLE ARE DOING FOR WORK AND  THEN WE'LL SWITCH SO EVERYBODY  GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN  ALL STATIONS JUST COME HAVE  FUN WITH IT MAKING YOUR OWN  IT'S NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T  HAVE TO BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL  YOU'RE USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT  USING THE ANGLES THAT YOU  CHOOSE TO USE ON THE MAN'S AND  IT JUST VARIES WITH  ♪ HOW YOU'RE COMFORTABLE AND HOW  YOU'RE FEELING WHEN YOU'RE  HERE.  >> HELLO EVERYONE MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL ON THE AQUATICS  MANAGER WITHIN OUR PARKS  RECREATION DEPARTMENT WERE  HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH PORT  AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO TALK TO  EVERYONE ABOUT A BLOW FOR LIFE  PROGRAM WE RECOGNIZE THAT  NATIONALLY UNINTENTIONAL  DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE  OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN THAT ARE  UNDER THE AGE OF 4. SO WE HAVE  AN AWESOME PROGRAM HERE CALLED  FLOAT FOR LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE  IS A PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH  THAT STARTS WITH THE  FUNDAMENTALS OF FLOATING  BEFORE WE ACTUALLY LEARNED  SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM IS  TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN  AGES 6 MONTHS TO 4 AND WHAT WE  WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT  THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE  WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY  FALL IN THE WATER OR FIND  THEMSELVES INTO TROUBLE  SITUATION. THEY CAN ROLL OVER  THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE  LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM I WE'RE  THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT  WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS  MILESTONE PROGRAM SO WANT TO  GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR NORTH  ROTARY AS WELL WHO SPONSORED  THIS PROGRAM HERE AT THE  AQUATIC CENTER AND ACTUALLY  PAY FOR A TRAINER TO COME ALL  THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA RIVERS  PROGRAM ORIGINATES THERE WE  PRACTICE AND WE GO THROUGH  WHAT'S CALLED MILESTONES HERE  SO AS SOON AS THE KIDS  PROGRESSIVE, THE MILESTONE CAN  CONTINUE MOVING ON THROUGH  THEM AND AT THE END OF IT IT'S  A PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM WHEN  THEY GRADUATE AS ONE OF THE  FINAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IS  THEY JUMP IN FULLY CLOTHED AND  THEY HAVE TO TURN OVER ROLL  OVER ON THE BACK AND ACTUALLY  BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR HELP AND  THAT POINT IN TIME, IT'S JUST  AN AWESOME SEGMENT PROGRAM  THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO OUR  LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM SO THAT  WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE  KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE IN ON  AND AROUND THE WATER.  ♪ >> OH MY  >> ALWAYS GET VERY EXCITED  WHEN ANYBODY ASKS ME ABOUT MY  JOB IN WHERE I WORK AND WHAT I  DO IT'S NOT A SECRET THAT I  LOVE WORKING FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT I WORKED FOR  CHARLOTTE COUNTY AND I FELT  THAT I NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING  DIFFERENT AND I WANTED  SOMETHING MORE AND I WANT  OFFER MY SKILLS IT TO MY  FRIEND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO  AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT MY  NEXT STEPS AND SHE SAID DID  YOU THINK ABOUT APPLYING TO  JOBS. THE CITY OF NORTH PORT  THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT VIBE  HERE AND SHE SAID LOVE IT AND  I SAID I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT  THAT SO I APPLIED AND I  STARTED MY FIRST POSITION IN A  PLANNING AND ZONING IN OUR  DEVELOPMENT SERVICES  DEPARTMENT I'M PARTNERED WITH  THE DELI DEPARTMENT.  >> BECAUSE MY MIND THE FEES  ARE ASSESSED OFF OF THE  BUILDING PERMITS AND IT'S  STRICTLY FROM NEW  CONSTRUCTION,  ♪ NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THE FIRST  THING I DO IS TO CHECK THE  SPREADSHEET TO LOOK AT THE  PERMITS AND DETERMINED WHICH  ONES NEED ME TO ESTIMATE THEIR  IMPACT FEES AND THAT'S WHY  START WITH THAT THEN I GO TO  NUMBERS THAT I HAVE TO PUT  TOGETHER AND I PUT TOGETHER  INVOICES FOR DEVELOPERS OFTEN  TIMES GET PHONE CALLS TO GET  VOTES BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT  COMES THROUGH AND SO  DEVELOPERS WANT TO KNOW HOW  MUCH THEY CAN.  >> BUDGET FOR SOMETIMES I PUT  ♪ >> PROPOSED ESTIMATE TO HELP  THEM LIKE THAT. THE BULK OF IT  IS IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE  FEES ARE IN THE SYSTEM AS FAST  AS POSSIBLE. I LOVE THE ESPRIT  DE CORPS THAT EXPERIENCE. JUST  HOW EVERYBODY TEAMWORK  TOGETHER ENJOY KNOWING THAT I  CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE  CITY AND THAT MY POSITION CAN  HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR OUR  CITY.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING  TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S  IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND  WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT,  IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG  BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST  MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE  DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS  THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET  AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET  EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S  IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS  SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE  PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME  AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR  BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR  HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE  DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND  THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T  WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE  AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE  THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK  ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU  MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF  TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF  EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO  REFILL PRESCRIPTIONS AHEAD OF  TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT DO  YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO  THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO BAGS YOU  SHOULD HAVE NON-PERISHABLE  FOOD FLASHLIGHT BATTERIES, A  RADIO THAT IS BATTERY POWERED  AND EXTRA BATTERIES SHOULD ALL  POWER GO OUT WE WILL BE ABLE  TO BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY  EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE  SURE TO HAVE BATTERY POWERED  RADIO READY IN TUNED IN TO 97  POINT.  ♪ >> BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL  RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE  INTEGRAL PART FOR THE CITY'S  GROWTH IS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE A  MORE BALANCED APPROACH OF  DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE WHAT  WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS SEE  SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT  SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.  >> AND ABOUT A MONTH THAT IN  LYON WAIVES WHAT WE DO HAVE  ALREADY HAVE HASTENED WE WANT  TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN  OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THAT  IS STILL PLACE FULL ON EXTRA  ZAW ALL MIKE WRITING BAD  SADDLE THE OF THE SPECIES THAT  AND SURVIVED IT ALL HABITAT  THAT ROLE SYSTEMS. BIG PART  >> THE WAYS YOU CALL SYSTEMS  FUNCTION IMPORTANT PARTS FOR  OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LIST THE  SPECIES THEY STABILIZE THE  SOIL THEY PROVIDE. SO MANY  DIFFERENT BENEFITS, INCLUDING  SHADE LIMITING THE HEAT ISLAND  EFFECTS WITHIN OUR CITY  ♪ PROVIDING HABITAT PROVIDING  SHELTER FOR THE SPECIES. AND  JUST TO ALSO FOR OUR IS THAT  HE CAN JOIN MINCE WELL AS AN A  LOT OF WHAT I DO IS.  >> MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT CONFORMS TO THE  TREE PROTECTION CODE SO ONE  THING WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE  SINCE APRIL OF 2022. IS A TREE  PROTECTION CODE WHICH IS QUITE  ROBUST AND THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY  COMMISSION AND THE CITY ALSO A  LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT  AND SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO  HAVE THE TREE PROTECTION CODE  SO.  >> WHAT I DO A LOT OF WHAT I  DO IS MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL  OR COMMERCIAL CONFORMS TO THAT  CODE WE ALL SUCH A PASSIONATE  TAME WE COME FROM.  >> FACT I THINK BETWEEN US WE  HAVE A 100 DAYS OF EXPERIENCE  WE ARE EVERY RIGHT WING TO GO  OUT AND YOU KNOW WE KNOW HE'S  CUT OUT. WITH A HAPPY TO  ♪ TAKE THE CHALLENGE TO DIVISION  COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.  >> AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY  WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE GREAT  STRIDES AND PROTECTING WHAT WE  HAVE HERE AND FINDING THAT  BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND  ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, I'M  EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS  TEAM REALLY.  >> SEEKING AND LOOKING FORWARD  TO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO  BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  >> STARTED CHARLOTTE COUNTY  UTILITIES AS A METER READER IN  2004. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE  I GOT MY FOOT IN THE DOOR AND  WANT REACH A POINT MY LIFE OR  THINGS ARE MORE STABLE AND I  DECIDED TO LEAVE CHARLOTTE  COUNTY UTILITIES. AND I WENT  AND GOT MY INTERNS LICENSE  THOSE VERY EXCITING DOING THAT  FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,  BUT AFTER A WHILE I STARTED  THINKING ABOUT THE UTILITY. IT  WAS IN MY HEART AT THIS POINT  I HAD ALMOST 12 JUST 2 MONTHS,  SHY OF 12 YEARS AND AND SO I  REALIZED DURING THAT TIME. MY  HEART WAS IN UTILITIES AND SO  I STARTED LOOKING AROUND AGAIN  I THINK OPENING HERE TO BE  SEEING IN THE TECH SO I  APPLIED AND I GOT IN TYPICALLY  I GET HERE AT 7 IN THE  MORNING. I GET MY LIST YOU  KNOW IF I CAN GET TO THIS THIS  IS WHAT I NEED TO DO AND.  >> I GET IN MY TRUCK IF I NEED  ANY SUPPLIES PARTS TOOLS BASED  OFF OF THE WORK I WAS GIVEN  THAT MORNING, I'LL PICK THAT  UP HERE AT OUR SHOP AND THEN I  HEAD OUT IN THEM. MICHAEL FOR  THE DAYS GET AS MUCH WORK AS  THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO DONE AS  POSSIBLE. AND SOMETIMES THAT  HAPPENS AND OTHER TIMES  THERE'S A LOT OF FIRST  RESPONSE CALLS THAT COME IN MY  FAVORITE PART IS THE  UNIQUENESS NOT KNOWING WHAT  I'M GOING TO BE FACED WITH  EVERY DAY. IT COULD BE  DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MUNDANE IN  ANY WAY.  >> AND IT'S EXCITING WHEN YOU  GET A CALL AND YOU'RE YOU'RE  ON YOUR WAY YOU DON'T KNOW  WHAT IT IS AND YOU YOU HAVE  THE EXPERIENCE AND THE  KNOW-HOW AND THE BACKING TO  FACE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE  SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN  FACING THESE CALLS AND I THINK  THAT'S WHAT DIFFERENT PART.  >> HELLO MY NAME'S A VAN FULL  PRODUCTS FACILITY MANAGER WITH  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND  TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE  TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT  OUR FREE SWIM EVALUATION. IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED  EVALUATIONS SO KIDS  REGISTERING FOR SWIM PROGRAMS  THEY GET PLACED IN THE RIGHT  CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  MORE DOING THAT'S SOMETHING  YOU ATION IS EVERY SWIM LEVEL  HAS WHAT'S CALLED EXIT SKILL  ASSESSMENTS. SO WHAT WE DO IS  WE HAVE YOUR CHILD GET IN THE  WATER AND WILL GO THROUGH  SERIES OF DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS  CAN YOU GO INTO THE WATER I  CAN YOU SHOW US YOUR PHONE  CALL CAN YOU SHOW US BACK ALL  SHOWS ELEMENTARY BACK  DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN AND  WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE  TRYING TO SEE. YOUR CHILD TEST  TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A  CHALLENGE FOR THEM AT THAT  POINT WHAT WE ASSESS THAT THAT  WILL LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN  GO AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD  UP FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL  THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE  HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN  WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE  DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD  POTENTIALLY IN A LEVEL 2 AND  LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCED FROM  EVALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  >> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER  I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW  REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL  PEOPLE HERE HAVE ONLY BEEN  DOING THIS JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE  5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT  EXCELLENT SO MARIO TELL PEOPLE  WHAT IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO.  THE PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR  SOLID WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT  AND AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS  TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON  RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS  INTERESTING VERY AREA WHEN HE  FOUND INSIDE THE RECYCLING  BINS SHOULDN'T BE THERE SO  LET'S TRY TO TELL THE PEOPLE  HOW TO RECYCLE MOST COMMON  THING I FIND FRANCIS PLASTIC  BAGS.  >> SO START TO NOT RECYCLABLE  I FIND JUST POSTING THE  CONTAINER FOR THE RECYCLE WITH  HIM AND MISSION DECIDEDLY  COUNTRY THAT'S RIGHT INSIDE  THE BLUE CONTAINERS. AND THEY  SHOULD BE YOU TAKEN BACK TO  THE GROCERY STORE OR TOSS IN  THE TRASH OR DO SEE A LOT OF  RECYCLING INSIDE THE  CONTAINERS OF I COME ACROSS A  LOT WANT TO DO THAT SO.  >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK  AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH  PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH  SOLID WASTE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN  YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND  KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS  AND YOU WANT TO ALSO SHARE IT  WITH PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR  YOUR NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY  KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD  OF TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD  OF YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU  AFTER A DISASTER FOR YOUR  EVACUATION YOU SHOULD HAVE  MULTIPLE ROUTES TO GET TO  LOCATION. YOU'RE PLANNING TO  GO TO JUST BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS  TRAFFIC ON 75 MIGHT BE  GRIDLOCKED THERE COULD BE SOME  VERY GOOD BACK ROADS TO GET TO  WHERE YOU'RE GOING THAT COULD  GET YOU THERE MORE QUICKLY  WITHOUT BEING STUCK IN TRAFFIC  WHEN YOU'RE MAKING EVACUATION  PLAN. WE USUALLY TELL YOU 4  DIFFERENT THINGS YOU SHOULD  STAY HOME IF YOU ARE NOT IN  HIS OWN THAT'S BEING EVACUATED  AND IF YOUR HOME IS BUILT TO  WITHSTAND THE FORECASTED STORM  IF YOU CAN STAY HOME. AND YOU  EVACUATE YOUR NEXT OPTION  SHOULD BE TO GO TO A FRIEND  OUR FAMILY'S HOME THAT IS  OUTSIDE OF THE EVACUATION AREA  AND IT IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND  TO US AND THE STORM 3RD OPTION  WOULD BE GO TO A HOTEL.  THEY'RE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE  THAN I BACK AWAY SHUNS  CENTER'S 4TH OPTION WOULD BE  TO GO TO ONE OF OUR EVACUATION  CENTER SARASOTA COUNTY HAS  FALLEN BACK AWAY SHUNS  CENTER'S. THOSE CAN BE FOUND  ON THEIR WEBSITE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOVES OF  EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR CITY  WORK AND I'M GOING DISCUSS  FIRST RESPONDERS AFTER STORM,  SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE FOR  FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET TO  STORM AND DUE TO A VARIETY OF  REASONS. ONE ALL FIRST  RESPONDERS OFF THE ROADS, THE  TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE  SUSTAINED FOR THEIR SAFETY  THAT IS A STANDARD USUALLY  COSTS AND OTHER SO WE WILL  HAVE A BACKLOG CALLS THAT HAVE  COME IN DURING THE STORM THAT  PRIORITIZE BASED AND THE OTHER  RESPONDING TO AS WELL AS THE  CALLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON  THEM. ALSO ON THE ROADS MIGHT  BE FLOODED. THERE MIGHT BE  DEBRIS IN THE ROADS ARE  TECHNICAL FIRST IN TEAMS WILL  BE GOING OUT RIGHT AWAY TO  CLEAR THE ROADS ANY HOUSERS A  SKILL THAT OUR VEHICLES CAN  GET THROUGH AND RESPOND  ♪ THE CAUSE. JUST KEEP THAT IN  MIND WHEN YOU CALL AFTER  DISASTER FOR CITIZENS, WE ARE  COMING. WE ARE VERY IMPORTANT  AS WE CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS  AND THEIR SAFETY BUT IT MAY  JUST ALLOWED FOR US TO GET TO  THE ON LIST OF THE  ♪ >> EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARIO  OF NVIDIA I AM THE PLAN OR  SCHEDULE OR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE A  GOOD INTO THIS POSITION. FIRST  I WAS RECYCLE DRIVER FOR 5  YEARS FOR THE AND THEN I  BECAME THE PLAN A SCHEDULE  AFTER TAKING AN INTEREST  EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERLY MY POSITION  MY DAY-TO-DAY USUALLY I START  OUT BY VISITING THE NEW  RESIDENTS THAT SCHEDULE  GARBAGE AND RECYCLING  CONTAINERS TO BE DELIVERED AND  I WILL GO SEE THEM AND EDUCATE  THEM ON A SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE  FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER  I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE CITY  AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT CYCLE  ♪ CONTAINERS MANUALLY. FOR  CONTAMINATION. AND THEN I WILL  TAKE CALLS FROM DRIVERS IF  THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITHOUT  REPEAT. GARBAGE IN RECYCLE AND  I WILL  ♪ GO EDUCATE THE WHAT I LOVE  MOST ABOUT THE  ♪ NORFORK IS THERE ARE RESIDENTS  ARE FROM OVER THE WORLD. I GET  TO LEARN ABOUT THE SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES WHEN THEY COME FROM  AS WELL AS EDUCATE THEM ON THE  CITY NORTH PORT'S ALWAYS  GUIDELINES HOW TO RECYCLE  PROPERLY.  ♪ ♪ >> DECIDED TO BECOME A  FIREFIGHTER USED TO WORK  HOSPITALITY AND GROUP SALES  AND I ALWAYS HAD FRIENDS THAT  WORK. FIREFIGHTERS AND I  DECIDED ONE DAY THAT I WANTED  AND MY JOB DONE FOR PEOPLE SO.  >> I WENT AHEAD UT AND  PARAMEDIC PROGRAM WITH THE  ♪ FIRE ACADEMY. SAW A NORTH  WE'RE HIRING. AND REALLY LIKED  WHAT THEY HAD ON BETWEEN THEIR  ISO RATING BELIEFS AND VALUES  AND EVERYTHING 5, 5, THEY GAVE  ME AN OPPORTUNITY EVERY DAY IS  DIFFERENT BUT FOR THE MOST  PART WE START OFF THE SAME.  ♪ WHAT WAS GET OUR YEAR ONTO  THE. BRAD US MAKE SURE  EVERYTHING'S OPERATIONAL AND  OUR AIR PACK. ALSO CHECKED  INVENTORY. MAKE SURE WE HAVE  ALL OUR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT.  EVERYTHING'S THAT WAY YOU CAN  RESPOND TO ANY EMERGENCY SO  WE'RE ALWAYS STOCKED AND READY  TO I THINK THE BEST PART IS  THAT EVERYONE'S PASSION ABOUT  THEIR JOB.  >> SO THEY COME TO WORK AND  THEY'RE READY TO TRAIN AND  TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND  TEACH EACH OTHER SO EVERYONE'S  SHARPENED ON THEIR A GAME SO  IT MAKES IT OFTEN AND I JUST  LOOK FORWARD TO COME TO WORK.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOS SALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN PLUG DOWNS AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS. SO FLOOD  ZONES ARE GENERATED BY FEMA  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL  FLOOD AND THEY'RE USED TO  ♪ DETERMINE IF YOU NEED FLOOD  INSURANCE IF YOU HAVE A  MORTGAGE ON YOUR HOME. NOW THE  EVACUATION ZONES ARE BASED ON  STORM SURGE DATA THAT COMES  FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE  CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  ♪ >> AND I PROMISE ALWAYS  MANAGES TO THE NORTH PORT.  HERE TODAY, WITH MARY OF ANY  PLAYER SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE  DIVISION WE'RE GOING TO TALK  ABOUT PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A  SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT  SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD  NOT GO OUT TO THE CURB WHERE  TO PLACE THE ITEM TO THEM WHAT  HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN  WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF OF THE  YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW WE  CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8, 0,  50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER  SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT  HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE  DO THAT.  >> CAN ALSO GO ON A  WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT  CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL  OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO  WHEN IN DOUBT.  >> IF A PERSON WANTS TO PLAY  SET OUT WHAT YOU THINK PLACE  OUT WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS THE  WRONG THING BASICALLY FRANK  ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN  THE CONTAINER THAT'S GARBAGE  IS GOING TO GO CURBSIDE GOING  TO STAY OFF DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S  NOT ACCEPT IT IS TIRES  CHEMICALS.  >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT  YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S  CONSIDERED BALK BUT JUST MAKE  SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM  GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A  SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT  HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP  BOTH VICTIMS ARE A GOOD  QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE  BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE 1650  A CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S LINKED  TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT DIVIDED  BY 27 IS ONE COULD BE COUNTED  ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S  NOT GIVE US A CALL  941-240-8050.  >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE.  >> IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER STORM EVENT  WATER SHOULD  ♪ BE IN THAT SWELL TO 72 HOURS  AFTER THE STORM. THAT ALLOWS  THE WATER BUILT TO GET THE  STUFF THAT CAME OUT FOR ROOM  AND ON THE ROAD OUT OF THE  WATER SO THAT WHEN IT REACHES  THE HABITAT IT NO LONGER HAS  THOSE CONTAMINANTS  ♪ IT ALSO PROVIDES AN  OPPORTUNITY TO SLOW DOWN  WATERS SO THAT THE WATER  DOESN'T GO SO FAST THAT THEIR  ROADS.  >> ROADWAYS OR ANY OTHER  INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU  SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU KNOW UP  TO 72 HOURS SINCE THE  ♪ >> LAST RAIN THAT IS NOT  LETTING THAT IS DOING ITS JOB.  >> I'M STACEY LOS YOU KNOW ON  THE EMERGENCY IN WATER THEY  ARE GOING STORM SURGE AND  FLOODING NEXT OR SO STORM  SURGE IS STRONG SUSTAINED  WINDS ARE CONSTANTLY GOING  OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME  OVER THE GOAL PUSHING WATER UP  ONTO WILL NOT HAPPEN. THERE'S  A LOT OF FLOODING A LOT OF  BEACH EROSION ALONG TEACHER  AND THE HOME. HOWEVER THIS  STORM CAN ALSO PUSH WATER OF  THE RIVER PUSHED ON THE MYAKKA  RIVER FOR INSTANCE, GULF AND  THEN THE WATER COMING  DOWNSTREAM FROM THE RIVER HAS  ORDERED TO BECAUSE WATER TO  BACK THAT ALONG WITH A LOT OF  RAIN THAT COMES FROM ALSO  CAUSED INCREASE OF WATER  FLOODING INTO THE RIVER  ♪ AND INTO OUR WATER MANAGEMENT  CAUSING FLOODING WELL. PUBLIC  WORKS WITH A LOT OF WORK  BEFORE THE STORM TO MAKE SURE  THAT OUR WATER LEVELS POSSIBLE  FOR AND THE WAR AGAINST STORM  SURGE FLOODING IN OUR WATER  SYSTEMS IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL  INFORMATION  ♪ ON THAT AGREED TO A DEAL BUT A  LOT FOLKS  >> REX HAS A FULL CLASS TRX  CAMP IS A NEW CLASS FOR ME,  ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN USING TRS  FOR MANY YEARS WITH PERSONAL  TRAINING THAT I DO OR IN OTHER  STYLE CLASSES THAT I'VE DONE.  BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUS WITH JUST  TRX THIS IS A NEW CLASSROOM. I  LOVE THE CAMARADERIE AT TO SAY  WITH ALL THE PARTICIPANTS. I  THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN.  ♪ FIRST OF ALL EVERYONE GETS TO  THE MANS THAT YEAR EXPENSE OF  BEING THAT WE HAVE 5 STATIONS  SO WE HAVE OVERFLOW OR MORE  THAN 5 PEOPLE. PART OF THE  PEOPLE ON THEM AND THE OTHER  PEOPLE ARE DOING FOR WORK AND  THEN WE'LL SWITCH SO EVERYBODY  GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN  ALL STATIONS JUST COME HAVE  FUN WITH IT MAKING YOUR OWN  IT'S NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T  HAVE TO BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL  YOU'RE USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT  USING THE ANGLES THAT YOU  CHOOSE TO USE ON THE MAN'S AND  IT JUST VARIES WITH  ♪ HOW YOU'RE COMFORTABLE AND HOW  YOU'RE FEELING WHEN YOU'RE  HERE.  >> HELLO EVERYONE MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL ON THE AQUATICS  MANAGER WITHIN OUR PARKS  RECREATION DEPARTMENT WERE  HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH PORT  AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO TALK TO  EVERYONE ABOUT A BLOW FOR LIFE  PROGRAM WE RECOGNIZE THAT  NATIONALLY UNINTENTIONAL  DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE  OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN UNDER  UNDER THE AGE OF 4. SO WE HAVE  AN AWESOME PROGRAM HERE CALLED  FLOAT FOR LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE  IS A PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH  THAT STARTS WITH THE  FUNDAMENTALS OF FLOATING  BEFORE WE ACTUALLY LEARNED  SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM IS  TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN  AGES 6 MONTHS TO 4 AND WHAT WE  WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT  THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE  WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY  FALL IN THE WATER OR FIND  THEMSELVES INTO TROUBLE  SITUATION. THEY CAN ROLL OVER  THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE  LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM I WE'RE  THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT  WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS  MILESTONE PROGRAM SO WANT TO  GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR NORTH  ROTARY AS WELL WHO SPONSORED  THIS PROGRAM HERE AT THE  AQUATIC CENTER AND ACTUALLY  PAY FOR A TRAINER TO COME ALL  THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA RIVERS  PROGRAM ORIGINATES THERE WE  PRACTICE AND WE GO THROUGH  WHAT'S CALLED MILESTONES HERE  SO AS SOON AS THE KIDS  PROGRESSIVE, THE MILESTONE CAN  CONTINUE MOVING ON THROUGH  THEM AND AT THE END OF IT IT'S  A PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM WHEN  THEY GRADUATE AS ONE OF THE  FINAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IS  THEY JUMP IN FULLY CLOTHED AND  THEY HAVE TO TURN OVER ROLL  OVER ON THE BACK AND ACTUALLY  BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR HELP AND  THAT POINT IN TIME, IT'S JUST  AN AWESOME SEGMENT PROGRAM  THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO OUR  LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM SO THAT  WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE  KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE IN ON  AND AROUND THE WATER.  ♪ >> NICE LUNCH ID. IT'S IS  NICE. BUT THAT WE DO THAT. SO  WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON 2  ORDINANCES THIS IS B. REMOVING  ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 1,  0, I NEED A MOTION TO DIRECT  ASSISTANCE TO THE COURT HOW TO  READ BY TITLE FECUND WE HAVE A  MOTION MADE BY ICE PIERCE  OAKS. BUT THE ASSISTANT CITY  CLERK TO READ THIS BY TITLE  ONLY AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON THERE'S  NOTHING ELSE. LET'S VOTE ON  THAT. PASSES 0, ASSISTANT CITY  CLERK TAKE IT AWAY.  ♪ >> IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING  SECTION 2 DASH 4, 2, 0, OF THE  CODE CITY OF NORTH PORT  FLORIDA REGARDING  PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS P  3 PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS  PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS  PROVIDING SEVERABILITY  PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND  PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.  >> OK AND JUST FOR THE CITY  LET YOU HAD PREVIOUS  APPOINTMENT. SO HE STEPPED OUT  AND WE HAVE DEPUTY CITY  MANAGER. JASON YARBROUGH  TAKING HIS PLACE GO AHEAD.  >> THIS WOULD MAKE YOU THANK  YOU COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU  FOR ALWAYS BE HERE. SO MEANS  IN THE CITY CODE FOR  CONSISTENCY WITH CHANGES TO  THE FORCE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO  THREES. YEAH SECTION 2 THAT  BECAUSE 40 DEGREES. THE BART  STAFF HERE TO ANSWER ANY  QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE  REGARDING THIS ISSUE. LET'S  MOVE ON TO. QUESTIONS  COMMISSIONER LANGDON. THANK  YOU MAYOR. ACTUALLY MY MIGHT.  >> COMMENT OR QUESTION ISN'T  SPECIFIC TO THE CHANGES. IT'S  MORE SPECIFIC TO OUR  EXPERIENCE WITH THE PREVIOUS P  3.  >> AND I GOT SOME FEEDBACK  THAT THE 25,000  NON-REFUNDABLE. DEPOSIT WILL  CALL IT OUR WAS A BARRIER TO  SOME FOLKS PURSUING A  POTENTIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH US  I'M IN A WHILE SINCE WE TALKED  ABOUT THE P 3, BUT I DO SAME  TO RECALLED THAT AT A VERY  VERY HIGH LEVEL IT WAS A 2  STEP PROCESS.  >> PEOPLE COULD APPLY. FOR A  PEACE AND THE FIRST STEP WOULD  BE THAT STAFF WOULD SEE IF  THAT PROPOSAL CONFORMS TO OUR  DEFINITION OF THE P 3 AND IF  IT THAT WAS WHEN WE DID A  DEEPER DIVE IN. IF IT WAS  CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW WE GOT  EXPERTS AND THAT TO EVALUATE  THE PROPOSAL I MY  RECOLLECTIONS ACCURATE. YES,  MA'AM, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO  SUGGEST IF WE'RE GOING IN AND  ADDED POLICY AND I KNOW IT  WOULD DEVIATE SOMEWHAT FROM  THE STATE POLICY. BUT WE  EITHER ARE REQUIRED THE  $25,000 AND WAS REFUNDABLE IF  WE REJECTED AT THAT FIRST  STOP. FOR MAKE THE $25,000 FEE  COME INTO PLAY WHEN WE SAY  OKAY PROPOSAL MATCHES RP 3  DEFINITION. NOW WE'RE GOING  SPEND ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES  AND THE PUNCHING THROUGH THE  PROPOSAL SAYS SO TO GIVE  ACCOUNT REVIEW. ABSOLUTELY.  >> THE COUNTER VIEW STAFF HAS  ALSO EXPERTS FOR A REDUCED  TERM. WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT.  FOR BECAUSE 3 THAT WENT  THROUGH RECENTLY WE HAD BRING  EXPERTISE THAT LOVE OUR OUR  PUNCH WAIT SO. AND THE $25,000  WAS STRUCK WITH A LOOK AT WHAT  WE SPENT TO BRINGING THAT  EXPERTISE SO JUST KIND YOU.  THERE WILL BABY THAT HE'S THAT  YOU NEED TO BRING IN AND THE  25 GRIN ALSO CAUSE. IN OUR  CASE WITH ONE LITTLE SPRINGS,  IT WAS A DROP IN THE BUCKET,  THE END OF THE DAY.  >> SO THERE'S CAMERA THINK  WELL AGAIN THAT'S WHY I ASKED  FOR SOME CONFIRMATION OF MY  UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT.  PROCESS I SHOULD AND IT WAS MY  UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT  INITIAL STOP WAS STRICTLY  STAFF STAFF TIME HAS VALUE  BUT. THAT THAT INITIAL STAFF  IT WAS REALLY MORE OF A DOES  THIS PROPOSAL CAN FOR OR THE P  3 DEFINITION AND REQUIREMENTS,  NOT JUSTIFYING OR PUNCHING  THROUGH SPECIFIC FACTS OF  SIMPSON YEAH, SAID AT THE  BEGINNING. NOW AS YOU GET DEEP  INTO THE WEEDS ANYONE TO START  REALLY GOING TO THE PROPOSAL  AND AND DOING STUDIES AND  BRINGING IN EXPERTS AND REALLY  EXPENDING SIGNIFICANT STAFF  TIME AND YES THAT SHOULD BE A  NON-REFUNDABLE TO HAVE A  NONREFUNDABLE 25,000 AT THE  VERY BEGINNING BUT AND THEN TO  HAVE A CONCERN COMPANY BE  TOLD. NO THIS PROJECT DOES NOT  QUALIFY FOR A P 3. UNDER OUR  CODE AND THEN JUST FOR  NOTHING. WE OUR FINEST RECORD  ALSO.  >> MISTER DOLE WAS PART OF OUR  OUR OUR TEAM. THAT THEY HAVE A  DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW THEN  YOU'RE I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR  IT.  >> SOMALIA AND FINANCE  DIRECTOR AND I'M JUST TRYING  TO REVIEW REAL QUICKLY. I  CAN'T REMEMBER IT HAS BEEN AND  REMEMBER AT THE POINT AT WHICH  THAT FEE IS DUE.  >> SO WAS TRYING WAS INITIAL  TO SUBMIT THE PROPOSAL THEY  HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. SCROLL TO  A AL IS DOING THE RESEARCH  SINCE TAKEN I APPRECIATE THAT  THANK YOU.  >> IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE  SINCE END A. I DON'T KNOW IF  THIS APPENDIX A ONE THAT WE  RECENTLY ADOPTED OR NOT.  >> WELL IT LOOKS.  >> MAY PHONE LEFT JUST FOR THE  RECORD MY BRAIN WAS SAYING  25,2500 CAME OUT OF MY MOUTH,  I MEANT 25,000 DIFFERENT, I  MEAN IT'S A TRUMPET ABSOLUTELY  WILL GO TO MYSPACE YOU HAVE  ANOTHER QUESTION. I WILL YES  TO DIFFERENT QUESTION. YEAH.  >> SEEING NO SEAWALL ITS.  MAYBE I'M KIDDING, BUT I NEED  SOME CLARIFICATION IT OKAY  CITY MANAGER WILL PLACE A  PRIVATE AND CAN SUE  UNSOLICITED P 3 BRINGS IT TO  CITY MANAGER CITY MANAGER  PLACE PROPOSAL ON THE MEETING  AGENDA CITY COMMISSION TO  PRELIMINARY DETERMINATION AS  TO WHETHER TEAM THE PROPOSED  PROJECT THE P 3 QUALIFYING  PROJECT TO NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY  TO GIVE DIRECTION TO NEGOTIATE  DIRECTLY THAT. AND AT THE  MEETING CITY MANAGER MAKE SURE  THAT YOU KNOW IT'S PUBLIC AND  AND CITIZENS WILL HAVE  OPPORTUNE PUBLIC PROVIDE  COMMENT SAYS A POTHOLE THE  CITY COMMISSION'S  DETERMINATION. WHICH I DON'T  UNDERSTAND THE CITY MANAGER  WILL ANALYZE WHETHER THE CITY  WILL FURTHER PURSUED THE  PROPOSAL UNDER THE PRIEST 3.  STEPHEN. WHY. WHAT THE CITY  MANAGER MAKING THAT DECISION  NOT TO COMMISSION AND 2 WAS  THE CITY COMMISSION'S  DETERMINATION MEAN BECAUSE THE  WORDS WERE UPON SUCH  DETERMINATION. BUT THE CITY  COMMISSION. SO I GUESS JUST  WORDSMITHS BUT WHAT  DETERMINATION IF IT'S THERE'S  A PRELIMINARY DECISION BY  COMMISSION. YOU KNOW TO DO  GUESS IT'S ULTIMATE WAY THE  COMMISSION'S DECISION TO  PROCEED WITH A P 3 ANSWER.  >> SELF-DETERMINATION IS IT.  THE I'M SO THAT THE PROJECT IS  PROJECT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE  DETERMINED THAT CITY MANAGER  WOULD DECIDE WHETHER TO  CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT  PURSUANT TO THE STATUTE  SECTIONS OF THE CITY WHETHER  TO PURSUE. THE COMMISSION'S 2  NATIONS TOGETHER. IT'S A  QUALIFYING PRE-JUDGE MY THAT'S  THE WAY THE LAUNCH WITH OR THE  FIRST ACTION KRISTA PROCESSED  CHEESE.  >> SO YEARS THAT PROCESS OR  PRESTON CO.  >> BASICALLY SEATS THAT  ULTIMATE AUTHORITY TO THE CITY  MANAGER.  >> THE COMMISSION DECIDED  WHETHER OR NOT A QUALIFYING  PROJECT. THE CITY MANAGER THAT  DECIDES WHETHER OR NOT TO  PURSUE IT AND THEN THE  COMMISSION LATER DECIDES  WHETHER OR NOT TO.  >> APPROVE THE CONTRACT BUT IF  THE CITY MANAGER DECIDES TO  DISAPPROVE IT. WHEN AGAINST  CITY COMMISSION. HAS WE SAY  PRELIMINARILY IT QUALIFIES AND  THEN CITY MANAGER SAYS.  >> YEAH BUT I DON'T  >> BECAUSE YOU CONTROL OF CITY  MANAGER THINGS AS EMPLOYMENT  WITH THE CITY.  AND I CAN IMAGINE CITY MANAGER  WORK THERE PLAY WITH HIS  BOSSES. SAYS BEFORE THEY AN  INSTITUTION.  >> I JUST I WAS INTRIGUED WHEN  I A THE SITE JUST. I MEAN I  DON'T KNOW WHAT EXISTED PRIOR  TO AND I'M THINKING TO MYSELF  WOULDN'T THIS JUST FALL INTO  THE REALM THE COMMISSION'S  DECISION RATHER CITY MAN  SOMETHING I PERSONALLY DON'T  PROBLEMS I REALLY LIKE IF  YOU'RE HAPPY WITH CITY MANAGER  SETTINGS GET A DIFFERENT CITY  MAGIC JUST SEXIST AND ARE  HAPPY WITH THIS THAT  COMMISSION AT THE SAME TIME I  WAS UNUSUAL CALL MY ALSO  THAT'S SO I APPRECIATE THE  CLARIFICATION.  >> IF I MAY COMMISSIONER MC  DOWELL BECAUSE IT'S DIRECTLY  RELATED TO RELATED QUESTION.  >> QUALIFYING.  >> IS ONE THING.  >> FIGURING OUT IF IT IS A.  >> BUSINESSES.  >> SO AGAIN, I'M I'M LOOKING  AT CITY STAFF. THE CITY  MANAGER MIGHT AGREE WITH THE  COMMISSION QUALIFIES BUT AND  THAT YOU TO MOVE FORWARD AND  MIGHT BE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT  PROPOSAL OR SOME OTHER KINDS  THINGS THAT MIGHT. COLE SAYS  THE CITY MANAGER TO SAY WE  REALLY SHOULD PURSUE THIS  PROPOSAL BECAUSE OF X Y SHOULD  THAT COME BACK TO THE  COMMISSION MISSION BE SOME  CLOSED THERE THAT THAT  DETERMINATION BY THE  COMMISSION.  >> YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY A  TWO-PART DETERMINATION WHETHER  IT IS ONE PART. THE NEXT PART  OF WHETHER THE COMMISSION THAT  WANT SEND THAT OUT TO THE  SOLICITATION COMPETITION  PROCESS TO GET CHOOSE WHICH  HALF. THE SEGMENT HAVE TO  DECIDE. THAT IS THEIRS 3  DIFFERENT DETERMINATIONS OF  THE COMMISSION THROUGHOUT THE  I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT  THAT BUT I STILL CONVENTION  AND WHAT SHOULD NOT BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT GOING TELL ABOUT  THIS YOU ALWAYS HAVE GOOD  QUESTIONS THAT PROMPT OTHER. I  LIKE THE CONVERSATION WE'RE  HAVING MUNCY ONE. MINE IS MORE  DIRECTED TO.  >> LINE 85 THAT SAYS THE  AGENDA WILL INCLUDE A CITY  STATEMENT ADDRESSING ANY  PUBLIC COMMENTS SUBMITTED AT  THE INITIAL MEETING AND  EXPLAINING WHY THE PROPOSAL  SHOULD PROCEED. I'M SORRY I'D  LIKE TO HEAR WHY IT SHOULD NOT  PROCEED ALSO. THERE SHOULDN'T  BE A PROS AND CONS FOR EVERY  DECISION MADE NOT JUST.  >> YEAH, THIS IS WHY WE'RE  GOING PROCEED NOW I WANT TO  HEAR WHY WE SHOULD NOT PROCEED  AND I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD  BE INCLUDED IN LINE 86.  >> THE PROS AND CONS.  >> PROBLEM PROBES. I CAN  ADDRESS THAT AS WELL SHORT SO  THEY GO FOR STATUTE REQUIRES  THAT THIS OCCUR IF THE POLICY  OF THE BOARD IS HEADED. ALSO  OTHER THAT'S A POLICY DECISION  TO BE MADE NOT NECESSARILY  CODIFIED DECISION ARE LAW.  >> I'M THE ONLY OTHER ONE I  HAVE IS AND I KNOW THIS IS  JUST A VERY SIMPLE SCRIVENER'S  LINES 8186 1.89 THE DATES  CORRECT. BECAUSE WE HAD TO  POSTPONE THAT MEETING. THAT'S  ALL I HAVE. BUT I DO LOOK  FORWARD TO ADDITIONAL  CONVERSATION SEE ONE. BECAUSE  IT'S A GREAT POINT.  >> MISS COMMITTED WE FIND NOW  WE HAVE $1000 FOR THAT SO YES  THAT IS DUE AT TIME OF  SUBMISSION OF AN UNSOLICITED  PROPOSAL. RIGHT YES.  >> I BELIEVE THAT HE WAS IN  RECOGNITION OF THE STAFF TIME  ANY OF THESE PROPOSALS CAN BE  VERY EXTENSIVE VERY LENGTHY  AND TAKE A LOT OF STAFF TIME  TO LOOK INTO WHETHER IT IS  VIABLE WHETHER SOMETHING WE  WANT TO LOOK INTO JUST EVEN  LEARNING WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE  CITY WHAT IT WILL COST THE  CITY. WHAT BENEFIT THE CITY. I  THINK THAT IS A COMPARABLE FEE  TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS.  >> SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S  IN THERE AT TIME OF  SUBMISSION.  >> WELL AGAIN, I'M A BIG  PERSON FOR WE SHOULD BE  COMPENSATED FOR WHAT WE DO.  BUT AGAIN IT WAS MY  UNDERSTANDING SOME I CAN SEE  ONE THAT SORT OF LAYING THAT  OUT.  >> THAT FIRST STEP IS DOES IT  QUALIFY AND WHICH PATCH SHOULD  WE TAKE EDUCATE ME IF I'M  WRONG BUT I DON'T SEE THAT  TAKING.  >> A LOT OF SPECIALIZED  EXPERTISE ARE A TON OF HOURS.  ONCE WE DECIDE TO PURSUE AND  WE START PUNCHING THROUGH  PROPOSAL AND YES THAT TAKES A  SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. MY  CONCERN IS IS I THINK WE COULD  DISCOURAGE SOME PEOPLE FOR  COMING TO US WITH A PROPOSAL.  BECAUSE IF WE SORT OF REJECTED  OUT OF HAND AND THE VERY EARLY  STAGES. THERE ARE $25,000.  IT'S KIND OF A 22, I MEAN.  >> IF YOU MAKE IT TOO LOW, YOU  CAN GET AND SO THIS IS THE  PROPOSALS THAT WILL. IT THE  AND THE SAME TIME YOU DON'T  GET TOO HIGH. BUT YOU DISCUSS  IDEA IS TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL  AS A COMMISSION. SO.  >> I MEAN THAT'S A GOOD POINT  MAYBE IT'S A 50% YOU KNOW.  JUST THROWING OUT NUMBERS BUT  AND I WANT TO SHARE THE  FEEDBACK I HAVE GOTTEN FROM  SOME FOLKS WHO HAD EVALUATED  THE WARM MINERAL SPRINGS  OPPORTUNITY AND DECIDED NOT TO  PURSUE IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T  WANT TO JEOPARDIZE $25,000  >> THEY WEREN'T IN SERIOUS  CONSIDERATION.  >> I CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT I  ALSO SEE THAT.  >> AND HAVING TOO MANY  SUBMISSIONS WHAT A GREAT  PROBLEM TO HAVE THAT'S BEEN  OUR BUT I CAN ALSO SEE OF  THOSE LAWS THAT MADE YOU AWAY  FROM TIME WE'VE GOT A PROJECT.  >> I DON'T KNOW THAT'S YOU  WANT TO DO BUSINESS I I WOULD  HIM, BUT I HAVE COMMISSIONER  DOWS AND SO IF IF A PRIVATE  ENTITY WANTS TO.  >> DO A PROJECT IN THE CITY  AND IT'S UNSOLICITED THEY'RE  OFF THE CUFF I WANT TO DO  PROJECT X Y AND Z AT THIS  LOCATION. THEY HAVE TO PAY  $25,000 STAFF REVIEWS IT STAFF  AND BRINGS IT TO THE  COMMISSION.  >> AND THEN THERE'S WHOLE  PROCESS THAT HAS TO FOLLOWED  FOR UNSOLICITED  >> ONCE THE COMMISSION SAYS  YES PER SCENE IF I REMEMBER  CORRECTLY IT WENT THEN  SOLICITED REVIEW WHERE  ENTITIES COULD SAY I LIKE WHAT  THIS THIS PIECE 3 IS DOING TO  STOP. IT'S A 2 STEP PROCESS SO  THE $25,000 IS FOR THAT ENTITY  TO SAY I AM THAT CONFIDENT IN  THIS PROJECT AND THAT IT'S  GOING TO FORWARD, I'M WILLING  TO PUT $25,000 DOWN ON THE  TABLE HAVE STAFF GOES THROUGH  ALL THOSE PROCESSES HAVE  COMMISSION WAY HAVE THE  CITIZENS WEIGH IN ON IT.  >> AND THEN BEEN APPROVED AND  WE MOVE FORWARD THEN IT  BECOMES A SOLICITED REVIEW  WHICH THEN IF I REMEMBER  CORRECTLY THERE IS NO FEE.  >> I WANT TO ASK I'M NOT  SEEING ANY FEE FOR SORRY I'M  NOT 3 WE DIDN'T EXTERNAL  COUNSEL TO WRITE THAT THE  CHANGES BECAUSE OF SOME  LEGISLATIVE CHANGES BUT IF YOU  REALLY IN C.  >> UNDER 2 OH ONE.  IT SOME OF THE NEW LANGUAGE.  NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH THE  PROS OR IN LIEU OF COMPETITIVE  REVIEW. SO.  >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS  AVAILABLE BEFORE AND THAT IS  ALL NEW BUT I THINK THAT MEANS  THERE WOULD BE.  >> THEY WE COULD DETERMINE TO  NEGOTIATE WITH THAT PROPOSE  RATHER THAN ADVERTISING AS WE  DID THE LAST ONE.  >> I THINK MAYBE  >> YOU GO TO LINE ONE 28 SAYS  COMPETITIVE, READ YOU THINK  THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT  ROUTES IT CAN GO. YES SO. BUT  I'M LOOKING AT THE FEES  SCHEDULE THERE IS NOT 40.  SOLICITED.  >> REVIEW SO LET'S SAY THE  CITY COMMISSION SAYS YOU KNOW  CITY MANAGER LET'S PUT THIS  OUT FOR A COMPETITIVE BID FOR  DOING THIS PROJECT. DALLAS  WHITE PARK. THERE'S NO COST TO  EVER WANTS TO SUBMIT. IT'S  THOSE THAT ARE JUST COMING OFF  THE CUFF TO THE CITY THAT  $25,000 I THINK ISRAEL. IT'S  REALISTIC BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T  HAVE A COST INVOLVED. PEOPLE  ARE JUST GOING TO BE  SUBMITTING ANYTHING AND  EVERYTHING IN STAFF IS GOING  TO HAVE TO REVIEW ITS GOING TO  BE COME TIME-CONSUMING  EXPENSIVE WELL, I THINK  $25,000 WAS REASONABLE.  >> I WANT THERE IS A $25,000  FEE FOR SOLICITED DETAILED  PROPOSAL AS WELL. AND THAT'S  WHY SO WE DECIDED DO 25 UNLESS  PRIOR PAID ONE. YEAH THE SAME  CONCEPTUAL.  >> IT IS I DO SEE THAT.  ♪ ♪ I WANTED  >> SCHEDULE JUST NOT IN THE  NEW ENGLAND AND THE FEES BUT  AGAIN I DON'T KNOW THAT FEE  SCHEDULE HAS BEEN UPDATED.  BECAUSE WE JUST RECENTLY  APPROVED APPENDIX I'M JUST AN  UNIQUE CODE.  >> SHOULDN'T I'D LIKE TO BE  PLAYING THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE  FOR A MINUTE ON THIS I COULD  ENVISION A SITUATION WHERE IT  ALL USE MINERAL SPRINGS US  IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE THAT'S  GOING TO BE 60 ACRES OF  PROPERTY SITTING THERE THAT  HOPEFULLY WILL BE A  CONSERVATION PROPERTY AND I  ENVISION. A POTENTIAL FOR SO A  VERY SMALL BUT. VERY  ATTRACTIVE P 3 PARTNERSHIPS  THAT MAY. COME FORWARD AND SO  THEY WILL BE UNSOLICITED SO  WHAT HAPPENS IS SOMEONE SAYS  LITTLE I'D LIKE TO DO THIS ON  A PARCEL ON MINERAL SPRINGS ON  THE 60 ACRES LIKE TO PARTNER  WITH THE CITY WILL PUT WILL  HELP WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT  THE OTHER, BUT IT'S A SMALL  PROJECT AND YOU'RE ASKING.  WHAT MAY VERY WELL BE AGE A  START-UP ENTITY OR A STUDY  HAVEN'T TO LOOK AT THE $25,000  KNOW RETURNABLE STATE AND I  JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS  LOSE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO  PARTNER WITH SOME POTENTIAL.  WHERE'S 3 PARTNERS THAT THAT  MAY JUST BE FRIGHTENED AWAY BY  WAS 25 FULLY APPRECIATE THE  REASON FOR IT YOU KNOW OFF US  AND THERE YOU DON'T WANT  THINGS ARE GOING WASTE LIKE  THAT THAT JUST DON'T MAKE ANY  SENSE BUT MAYBE THERE'S  ANOTHER WAY OTHER THAN THE ALL  ABOUT.  >> THAT TIES TO SOME FORMULA  OF SOME SORT JUST YOU KNOW I  CAN JUST ENVISION LIKE  OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WHICH  SMALLER AND IT'S NOT  DEVELOPERS.  >> WELL I THINK WHOEVER YOU  ACTUALLY. ENTER INTO AN  AGREEMENT WITH THERE  STRUCTURED THE DEAL THAT CAN  IN A MAKEUP SO THAT DON'T THE  PROPOSAL. THOSE ARE THE ONES  GOING TO BE KIND OF LIFT THE  AND BUT THE INTENT IS TO  MAXIMIZE THE NUMBER PROPOSALS.  THAT WILL HAVE A CHILLING  EFFECT THERE'S NO  ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL IT'S HARD TO  STRUCTURE SOME THAT'S GOING  ANTICIPATE EVERY CONSEQUENCE  OR EVERY SCENARIO.  >> CITY ATTORNEY THANK YOU  KIND OF SEE WHERE DISCUSSION  IS GOING BEFORE GET TOO FAR  OFF THE RAILS. BECAUSE OF THE  TICKET OR WHAT WAS ADVERTISED  BECAUSE IT IS A CHANGE IN LAW  COMING YEAR KIND OF TRYING TO  CLEAN UP THAT CODE. IF YOU  WANT TO BRING THIS BACK IN THE  DISCUSSION ITEM OR SPECIFIC  QUESTIONS COME INTO AND FOCUS  ON THIS ITEM CHANGING WALL I  HAD A FEELING I WAS TAKING US  DOWN THE THANKS WELL BECAUSE  MY TOPIC FOR CONSIDER YEAH, I  JUST THE OPPORTUNITY PASS SOME  THANK YOU FOR YOUR TOLERANCE  CAN CAN JUST.  >> SO ONE OF THE DISADVANTAGES  OF NOT HAVING THE ENTIRE CODE  IN THIS ORDINANCE YOU SEE  WHERE IT HAS THE 0 DOT THAT  MEANS THERE'S SOME COLD THAT'S  MISSING.  >> AND IF YOU LOOK IN THE  ACTUAL.  >> COVID OF THE CITY IN  SECTION 2 DASH 4, 2, 0,  THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS. P 3  CONCEPTUAL PROPOSAL. AND THAT  PROPOSAL GOES TO THE CITY  MANAGER THEY PAY THIS FEE I  DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT PEAKS  GO BETWEEN SCREENS AND THAT'S  NOT EASY TO DO ON AN IPAD I  1005 1000 THANK AND THEN IT  COMES TO COMMISSION FOR THAT  CONCEPT LOOKING 90. AND THAT  CONCEPT LOOKING IDEA COMES TO  COMMISSION WE GO OUT REALLY  LIKE THAT IDEA SO THAT 25,000.  SO I IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE  LOSING MONEY THEY'RE LOSING  5,000 IT COMES TO COMMISSION  WE SAY YAY WE SAY NAY AND THEN  IT GOES FROM THAT SO I JUST  WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT  CONFUSED BUT I'LL BRING IT  BACK.  >> AT AN AGENDA TOPIC AND WE  CAN HAMMER IT OUT.  >> THIS MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE  THE P 3 CONCEPTUAL PROPOSAL  ALSO BECOME. THANK YOU I WILL.  >> OTHER QUESTION OF THE MONTH  SEE ANYTHING IN SHOE. SO THEY  WERE MOVING TO PUBLISH TO  ATTORNEY FOR PUTTING US BACK  ON  >> PUBLIC COMMENT. PROVINCE  AND DISSENT THING.  >> POINT IS IF THEY DON'T HAVE  THE MONEY TO PAY LITTLE ARE  YOU KIDDING LIKE A QUARTER TO  MAY. WE SHOULDN'T EVEN  ENTERTAINMENT. SECONDLY.  COMMISSIONERS STRUCTURE  DISTRICT MAN. WHEN YOU MENTION  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS AND  BRINGING THE P 3 PARTNERSHIP.  WHAT ARE WE DOING. BUT THERE  WAS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT  BEING DRAFTED.  >> I MEAN SOMETHING IN  CONNECTION OF BECAUSE DO THAT  TO THE COMMUNITY. IT  >> I IT IS NOT OUR POLICY TO  ENGAGE WITH PUBLIC COMMENTERS  FROM THE DANCE.  >> WHATEVER HE JUST FREAKED ME  SO WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS IN ANY  KIND OF PASTRY PARTNERSHIP  EVER AGAIN THAT'S THE WHOLE  PURPOSE OF THE OF THE  CONSERVATION EASEMENT WELL  MAYBE BRING IN THE LITTLE  BOTANICAL GARDEN. THANK YOU.  THAT IS ALL THAT IS ALL OK  >> REALLY THIS PORTION OF THE  PUBLIC WITH THE PROMOTION.  MAKE GO AHEAD. I CONTINUE  ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 10  TO SECOND READING. ON  NOVEMBER, 1220 24. ALSO CAN  FOR DISCUSSION.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON  TO TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE  NUMBER 2024 DASH 10 TO SECOND  READING ON NOVEMBER, 1220 24  THAT WAS SECOND BY  COMMISSIONER DOWN HE WANTED  TO. SO SOMETHING.  >> THE MOTION MAKER AND SECOND  ARE THOSE FIRST. THEY'RE NOT I  JUST HEARD YOU SAY THAT THE  SECOND SPECIAL WHAT YOU WANTED  TO SAY SOMETHING. WELL I'D  LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO  THE MOTION. GOING BACK TO MY  POINT OF LINE 86 WHERE THE  PUBLIC COMMENTS SUBMITTED AT  THE INITIAL MEETING AND  EXPLAINING WHY THE PROPOSAL  SHOULD PROCEED. WE SHOULD ALSO  MAKE SURE THAT WE SHOULD HEAR  WHY SHOULD NOT. SCENE. SO I  WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE LANGUAGE  LINE 86 PROPOSAL SHOULD OR  SHOULD NOT PROCEED. TO THAT  LANGUAGE.  >> ALL RIGHT WE SHOULD KNOW  I'M RECOMMENDING AN AMENDMENT.  THE CHANGE LINE 86 THAT WE  INCLUDE EXPLAINED WHY NOT.  ♪ ♪ PLACE SHOULD NOT NOT ALONG  WITH WHY. HAVE A SECOND FOR  THAT AMENDMENT.  >> THE HOUSE SECOND IT  DISCUSSION VICE MAYOR SECONDS  THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM  CITY ATTORNEY CORRECT CITY  ATTORNEY AS WHY THAT WOULD BE  A GOOD OR BAD IDEA. CHOICE  >> THE ITS IS JUST CLEANING UP  WHAT CHANGE WITHIN THIS TASK  FORCE THAT YOU IF YOU'D LIKE  TO ADD TO THAT QUITE WHAT IS  REQUIRED. THIS WAS WITHIN  BACK. THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY.  >> THAT THE STATE STATUTE  GIVES US THE REQUIREMENT TO  CHANGE OR CODE. THIS IS THE  MINIMUM OF THAT REQUIREMENT  AND CITY ATTORNEY IS SAYING  THAT IT IS A POLICY DECISION  TO ADD THAT TO WHAT 3 WORDS.  >> SHOULD NOT PROCEED. IT'S  THAT PROS AND CONS.  >> IT IS STARTING FIND THAT.  >> SO YEAH FOR A SECOND  BECAUSE THIS PROCESS THE THE  REASONS FOR PROCEEDING OR  STATE ID AND GET TO THE  CRITERIA FOR WHAT SHOULD BE  ANALYZED CONSIDERED RIGHT. IF  YOU ALSO WANT TO WERE ALSO  WANTS TO HEAR REASONS WHY  SHOULD NOT THEY CAN ASK. FOR  THAT. EUGENE TO CODIFY THAT  WERE ASKED FOR IT. ANYWAY IT  ISN'T REALLY.  >> PROHIBITED FROM ASKING  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. YOU  LIKE THAT KIND OF FIGHT CAN DO  THAT.  >> SO THAT SHOULD STAY HERE.  BUT IF WE WANTED TO KNOW  DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN HERE FOR  US TO ASK WHY IS NOT GOING  FORWARD.  >> MY AMENDMENT IS INCLUDING  TO HAVE THE PROBLEMS OF YES  RICE IS WHY IT SHOULD PROCEED,  YES AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT  THE CONS ARE ALSO PRESENTED AT  THE SAME TIME OKAY, SO CITY  ATTORNEY WOULD THAT BE A  PROPER AMENDMENT TO MAKE ARE  YOU SAYING WHOLE THING HAS TO  COME BACK.  >> YOU CAN ASK THAT INCLUDED  FOR SECOND READING YES.  >> OKAY SO WE'RE MAKING THAT  AMENDMENT ACCOUNT. BUT WE HAVE  TO VOTE ON IT DO WHAT I'M  SAYING COMMISSIONER MAYBE  AMENDMENT AND I'M SORRY WHO  MADE THE SECOND FOR THAT.  >> STOKES FOR DISCUSSION. THEY  THANKS MAYOR. CHOICE.  >> ALL SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE  VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.  >> AND THE AMENDMENT.  >> TOO FAST RAY.  >> ALL SHOWING  >> REASON STAY ABOUT THAT THE  WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE.  >> I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS  NECESSARILY GOING TO HAVE THAT  CONVERSATION THAT IF THAT  HAPPENS.  >> VICE MAYOR.  >> YEAH, I BELIEVE WE'RE  PROBABLY GOING TO BE  REVISITING THIS WORKSHOP OR  WHATEVER MY CONCERN HERE GOING  GROUNDING US WAS THAT WE'RE  DOING NOTHING MORE YEAR AND  THEN YOU KNOW CLEANING UP SOME  LANGUAGE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO  KEEP IT TIGHT AS POSSIBLE AND  THEN LEAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT  WE MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE FOR  LATER DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE  PROBABLY IS A BUNCH COURSE  SOME THINGS THAT WE DO WANT TO  CHANGE SO ACTUALLY NO REASON  TO DOUBT.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT WE'RE  GOING TO MOVE MAKE A MOTION  FOR THE ORDINANCE MOVED TO  SECOND READING. ALL RIGHT YOU  DO JUST WHERE WE ARE WITH  DISCUSSIONS FOR AMENDMENT  SOMETIMES WELL MOTION I'M  SORRY. AND NASA'S 5, 0, SO  THAT IS MOVING TO SECOND  READING NOVEMBER, 1220 24.  >> ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO ITEM  C ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH  3, 7, AND I NEED A MOTION TO  DIRECT OUR ASSISTANCE CITY  CLERK, HOW TO READ BY TITLE  ONLY WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO HAVE  THE ASSISTANT HOW DID THIS BY  TITLE AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER AND RICH LET'S ON  THAT. AND THAT PASSES 5, 0,  ASSISTANT CITY CLERK TAKE  AWAY.  >> IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA  ESTABLISHING THE DEBT  MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE  AMENDING THE CODE THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA CHAPTER,  4 BOARDS AND COMMITTEES TO  CREATE ARTICLE 11 THAT  MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE  PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS  PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS  PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY  PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND  PROVIDING DATE.  >> ALL DEPUTY CITY MANAGER  THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. A  STATE WHICH IS THAT THAT MEANT  MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE  WHICH AS BACK TO ACTION DUE TO  PREVIOUSLY REGARDING THE  RESOLUTION 2024 DASH R. TRICIA  WAS THAT'S JUST ABOUT WORST  RECORDS ALSO PROJECT LEAD FOR  ISSUE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.  A SLIDE PRESENTATION.  >> YES WE DO HAVE A PRESIDENT  FOR THE CLARIFICATION  ABSOLUTELY.  >> SO THIS IS ON THE DEBT  MANAGEMENT EYES OR COMMITTEE.  DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MENTIONED  EARLIER TODAY. YOU PASS  RESOLUTION TWENTY-TWENTY 4 R  DASH 57, WHICH INCLUDED THE  CITY COMMISSION POLICY 4 DASH  0 ONE FOR THE DEBT MANAGEMENT  POLICY TO SECOND READING. FOR  NOVEMBER 4TH. WITHIN THAT  RESOLUTION IT SPOKE TO THE  CREATION OF A DEBT MANAGEMENT  ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THIS  ORDINANCE WOULD PROVIDE THE  ESTABLISHMENT FOR THE  COMMITTEE. THE COMPOSITION  WOULD HAVE 5 VOTING MEMBERS.  ALL MEMBERS WITH THE CITY  RESIDENTS. OTHER EXPERIENCE IN  CRASH WHICH PROVIDE INSIGHT  INTO THE PROJECTS. LOOKING FOR  BANKING FINANCE CONSTRUCTION,  REAL ESTATE PUBLIC  ADMINISTRATION ECONOMICS AND  SIMILAR FIELD TO HELP MAKE  SURE THAT YOU HAVE A WIDE  VARIETY OF VOICES TO HELP  GUIDE THE CITY WHEN LOOKING AT  IT FINANCE IT WOULD ALSO BE  ADVISING MEMBERS THESE MOVIES  AND NON-VOTING MEMBERS THAT  WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS  COMMITTEE. THE CITY MANAGER OR  DESIGNEE THE CITY FINANCE  DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE AND THE  OUTSIDE FINANCIAL ADVISER.  CONSISTENT WITH HOW ALL OTHER  BOARDS AND COMMITTEES ARE  APPOINTED APPLICATIONS WILL  COME IN TO THE CLERK AND THE  CITY COMMISSION HAS THE FINAL  SAY WHAT THE COMPOSITION OF  THE BOARD WILL LOOK LIKE SO AS  YOU ARE SEEING THESE  APPLICATIONS COME THROUGH AND  YOU FEEL THAT THE BOARD NEEDS  MAYBE MORE INFORMATION WITH  ADVICE FOR REAL ESTATE, YOU'D  BE LOOKING FOR THOSE CRITERIA  WITHIN THE APPLICANTS. NOW  THAT HERMAN IS NOT  SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED WITHIN  THE ORDINANCE THAT IS IN FRONT  OF YOU BECAUSE THAT TERM IS  STATED IN THE BROADER PORTION  OF THE COAT. THE TERM IS THE  SAME AS THE TERM FOR ALL OF  THE OTHER BOARDS. SO IT IS A 3  YEAR TERM. THEY CAN HAVE 2  CONSECUTIVE THREE-YEAR TERMS  AFTER THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE A  YEAR OFF AND THEN THEY CAN  COME BACK AND I CAN. THE  POWERS AND DUTIES FOR THIS  COMMITTEE. WE'D BE LOOKING FOR  THIS COMMITTEE TO ADVISE THE  CITY COMMISSION AT PUBLIC  MEETINGS AND THE ISSUANCE OF  DEBT FINANCING. PERIODICALLY  REVIEW THE CITY'S UNFUNDED  CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ADVISE  THE CITY COMMISSION OPTIONS  FOR FINANCING THOSE. REVIEW  VALUATION REPORTS. OPTIONS AND  CHALLENGES AND AT LEAST  ANNUALLY PRESENT THIS TO THE  CITY COMMISSION WITH  RECOMMENDATIONS REVIEW THE  DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY AND AT  LEAST EVERY 5 YEARS ADVISE THE  CITY MANAGER THE CITY  COMMISSION IF THERE'S ANY  RECOMMENDED CHANGES THAT  POLICY. AND THEN THAT  MANAGEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE  WILL MEET AT LEAST ONCE  ANNUALLY. IT CAN BE MORE  FREQUENTLY IF WE HAVE ISSUES  THAT ARE COMING BEFORE THE  COMMISSION REGARDING. I  DESIRED FINANCING  OPPORTUNITIES. THE RECOMMENDED  ACTION ON THIS IS TO CONTINUE  THIS. 2 NOVEMBER 4TH. SO  >> OPENING UP COMMISSIONER  QUESTION. SHE OUT. THANK YOU  FOR THE PRESENTATION I JUST.  HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS AFTER  REVIEWING THIS DOCUMENT, I'M  VOTING PRIVILEGES AND  NON-VOTING HAS WHICH IS IT'S  NOT SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT.  I KNOW WHEN WE HAVE A WORKSHOP  IT WAS CLEARLY STATED WHO HAD  VOTING PRIVILEGES AND WHO DID  NOT. THIS IS NOT THOSE WORDS  ARE MISSING IN THIS ORDINANCE.  I WOULD ASSUME THAT SEE ONLINE  SO 9 IS NON-VOTING BUT IT  DOESN'T.  >> CLEARLY SAY NON VOTING SO  THEY IT DOES SAY THAT THEY  SHOWED THAT SERVICE MEMBERS OF  THE COMMITTEE ONLY MEMBERS MAY  VOTE SO I THINK SAY THAT.  >> DOESN'T SAY MEMBERS HAVE  THE AUTHORITY TO VOTE. THAT  THE FIRST LADY WILL VOTE TO  MAYBE WE CAN JUST LOOK AT THAT  AND CLARIFY BECAUSE. AGAIN  THESE DOCUMENTS SURVIVE US AND  I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR  CRYSTAL CLEAR.  >> MISSION WE COULD DEFINITELY  ADDITIONAL CLARITY THANK YOU.  >> THE OTHER THING IS THAT  SECTION 4.3 REQUIRES THAT THEY  BE NORTH PORT RESIDENTS.  >> AND THAT FOR 6 MONTHS AND  THAT THEY THAT RESIDENCY BE  MAINTAINED.  >> BUT SUCH AN  FOUR-POINT-THREE ALSO ALLOWS A  RESIDENT TO SERVE AS LONG AS  THEIR PROPERTY OWNER. AND  AGAIN THIS IS PROBABLY POLICY  DECISIONS IS THAT THE  PARAMETERS WE WANT TO HALF.  BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUND WITH CDA  IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND.  RESIDENTS TO SERVE ON SEA DEB  THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARDS.  IF WE ONLY HAVE RESIDENTS. WE  MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FILL THE  BOARD. I'M JUST KIND OF  THROWING IT OUT THERE. AND THE  OTHER THING IS I REALLY THINK  THAT THEY SHOULD BE REGISTERED  VOTERS BECAUSE THIS IS  SOMETHING THAT EFFECTS. THE  CITIZENS AND AND YOU KNOW I  THINK THAT SHOULD BE JUST AN  ADDED. REQUIREMENTS. THE OTHER  THING IS TO ADVISE THE CITY  COMMISSION BUT THEIR ROLE GOES  FAR GREATER THAN JUST ADVISING  ONLINE 81 SAYS TO ADVISE THE  CITY COMES MISSION. THEY'RE  ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO GIVE US  RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU CAN  ADVISE. BUT GIVING  RECOMMENDATIONS KIND OF REALLY  DEFINES WHAT THERE  REQUIREMENTS AND THE PURPOSE  OF ROLE OF BEING ON THAT  COMMITTEE. THOSE ARE JUST SOME  OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO  BRING UP.  ♪ ♪ AND I WILL  >> OBESITY MANAGEMENT USE EYE  ON THE BUILDING THING.  >> I THINK THAT IS ARCHING  ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE RELATED  THIS CREATE A COMMITTEE AND.  THAT THE BUILDING IS PART OF  AN OVERALL SECTION IN THE CODE  THAT GOOD WORDS ALL THE WORDS  THEY DO SOMETHING THAT NEEDS  TO BE ADDRESSED.  >> IT JUST STATING THAT THE  RESIDENCY PARSONS SPECIFICALLY  IS NOT SO THAT'S OVERARCHING  AS COMMISSIONER MENTIONED,  THAT I WAS JUST NOT SURE WE  CAN MAKE SUGGESTIONS FOR  MODIFICATIONS TO THAT FOR THIS  MEETING TODAY AND THAT MIGHT  BE FOR THAT. THERE CITY  ATTORNEY TO WE CAN BRING OUR  SECONDARY. RECREATING THIS. OH  ABSOLUTELY.  >> I JUST FELT THAT WE WOULD  TIE IT BACK TO A LARGER YEAH,  A SECTION ABOUT THAT COVERS  ALL BOARDS AND ALL COMMITTEES  AND. THAT WAS ALL I POINTING  OUT.  >> AND IF I THERE ARE OTHER  BOARDS AND COMMITTEES THAT  HAVE US OVERARCHING RULES AND  REQUIREMENTS AND THEN THERE  ARE SOME BOARDS AND COMMITTEES  THAT HAVE SPECIFIC TO JUST  THAT FOR C DOT WAS THE ONE.  THAT REALLY REALLY STANDS OUT  FROM.  >> SO WHILE YOU LOOK FORWARD  TO THE CONVERSATION WITH MY  FELLOW COMMISSIONERS BASED ON  THE FEW IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS  THAT I HAVE TO MAKE THIS EVEN  BETTER.  >> DO WE HAVE ANY OF THE  QUESTIONS THAT I HAD A  QUESTION. ANYBODY ELSE WITH  QUESTIONS. HOW WOULD HOW WOULD  THE IMPACT THAT THE ISSUANCE  OF DEBT AT IT IF THIS  COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE CORNES  WITH THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT.  >> NO WHAT WAS DETERMINE IS  THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD  STILL BE IT'S A TERM ANYBODY  AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO ISSUE  IT WOULD BE THIS. IT WOULD BE  ABILITY TO PROVIDE ADVICE AND  RECOMMENDATIONS HOWEVER IF  THIS COMMITTEE WERE UNABLE TO  MEET ANY REASON THE COMMISSION  WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE ON  WITH THOSE DECISIONS BELIEVE  THAT WAS IN OUR OTHER  ORDINANCE 2024 TESTS THERE ARE  7 CALL THAT OUT AND THERE.  >> CORRECT YOU COMPARE THAT TO  THE SURTAX OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE  AS I DID SERVE ON THAT AND  WHAT THE ONE OF SOMETHING  THERE WAS ALWAYS A PROBLEM NOT  HAVING BUT THAT DIDN'T KEEP  THE SURTAX. PROJECTS MOVING  FORWARD BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MEET  I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS  IS PRETTY MUCH SET UP THE SAME  WAY THAT WAS THE PLAN. YES  MA'AM OKAY, OKAY.  >> ALL RIGHT, I'M NOT SEEING  ANYBODY ELSE IN THE 2. SO I  LOOKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.  >> ROBINSON SOMETHING. THAT IS  ALL.  >> SO I'M LOOKING FOR A  MOTION. ON HEAD. OR UNSAFE.  OKAY.  >> MOVE TO CONTINUE ORDINANCE  NUMBER 2024 DASH $0.37 TO  SECOND READING ON 11/4/2024.  >> SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.  >> AND MOTION MADE BY VICE  MAYOR STOKES TO CONTINUE  ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH 37  TO SECOND READING ON NOVEMBER  4TH 2024 AND THAT WAS SECONDED  BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> COMMISSIONER WE HAVE.  >> YEAH I I REALLY THINK WE  NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S SPELLED  OUT THAT WHO IS THE VOTING IT  AND WHO WAS NOT IT. IT'S NOT  IN HERE NEEDS TO BE IN THERE.  SO WITH THAT SAID I WILL MAKE  AN AMENDMENT FOR STAFF. TO  REVIEW AND INCLUDE VOTING AND  NON-VOTING. CRITERIA WITHIN  THIS ORDINANCE AND BRING BACK  FOR SECOND READING.  ♪ >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE AN  AMENDMENT MADE BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL  ♪ REPEAT THAT.  >> INCLUDED VOTING AND NON  VOTING.  >> CRITERIA WITHIN ORDINANCE  PRIOR TO SECOND READING. WE  HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT  AMENDMENT. YOU KNOW I WILL FOR  DISCUSSION OF ATMOSPHERE SO I  THOUGHT IT WAS SAID BY. WELL  SEE IT A CITY MANAGER. CORRECT  ME IF I'M WRONG ONLY PEOPLE  THAT CAN FOLD PEOPLE SIT ON  THE BOARD. SO WHY WOULD YOU  HAVE TO PUT IT IN THERE. IT  ALREADY NOT A MEMBER OF THE  BOARD CAN VOTE. I MEAN I THINK  THAT CONVERSATION COMING UP  REMEMBER ORIGINALLY IT WAS THE  FOOT THAT PERHAPS COMMISSION  NURSE OR OTHER PARTIES MIGHT  SIT ON OR COMMITTING, BUT THAT  WAS MIXED AND ONLY THIRD-PARTY  INDEPENDENT PEOPLE.  >> SAID ON THIS POINT THEY'RE  THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN VOTE SO  AGAIN IT'S JUST DON'T SEE THE  REASON FOR ISN'T. I THINK  LISTENING ONLY BOARD MEMBERS  CAN VOTE. SO WHY WOULD WE SAY  THAT IT DID.  >> DOESN'T SAY THAT TO BEGIN  WITH DOESN'T SAY THAT ONLY  BOARD MEMBERS CAN VOTE ONLY  PORT MEMBERS CAN PULL ON ANY  BOARD. I WRONG. I MEAN ARE  ONES WHERE MEMBERS WHO BOARD  MEMBERS CAN VOTE. I'VE NEVER  BOARD PEOPLE ON THE BOARD I'M  OUT.  >> IN 2 SESSIONS, I'M NOT  FAMILIAR WITH ANY BOARDS FOR  IT'S CITY WHERE WE ALLOW THAT  NUMBER IT DOES STATE THAT THEY  WOULD BE IN AN ADVISORY  CAPACITY.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT'S  ANYTHING LET'S VOTE ON THAT  AMENDMENT.  AND THAT TELLS ONE  TOO OR. SO THEN WERE GOING TO  VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL.  ♪ ♪ WHICH IS TO CONTINUE IT TO  SECOND READING. AND THAT  PASSES 5 THANK YOU. THANK YOU.  MOVING ON TO ORDINANCES SECOND  READING ITEM ORDINANCE NUMBER  2024 DASH 32.  >> ASSISTANT CITY CLERK HOW DO  YOU READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY.  >> IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA AMENDING  THE CODE THE FL APPENDIX A  CITY SCHEDULE AMENDING  DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FEES  INCLUDING BUILDING DEVELOPMENT  REVIEW, PLANNING AND ZONING  AND NATURAL RESOURCES FEES TO  CORRESPOND WITH THE NEW  UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE  PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS  PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS  PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND  PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.  >> THANK DEPUTY CITY MANAGER  YOUR ITEM.  >> THIS IS A SECOND MEETING  ORDINANCE AND STAFFS AVAILABLE  TO ANSWER ANY.  >> QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSION  MAY HAVE ALL RIGHT, I'M  LOOKING ANY QUESTIONS ON THE  SECOND READING. DON'T OK SO  ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. PROVINCE  AND SOMETHING OKAY.  >> I HAD THIS CONVERSATION ALL  WITH ELAINE, A.  >> REGARDING THE TREES THE  TREE FUND AND THE  ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION FEE  IN LIEU OF TREATMENT MOBILE  THE $8,000. MY THINKING IS.  >> IT DOES NOT POSSIBLE. I HAD  3 PARCELS THAT I CAN I EMBRACE  THE LOT LINES. AND I'VE GOT A  LOT OF TREES ON THAT NOW ONE  PARCEL. WE LISTEN MONEY. I  JUST DO WE NEED TO SATISFY THE  $8,000 IS SUBJECT TO. REGULAR  SIZE PARCEL. WE DO WE DO WE  NEED TO SPELL ANYTHING OUT  BECAUSE FOR ME. IT SAID 3 AND  A HALF THICK A LOT. AND I  COULD PAY A $1000 INSTEAD OF  MY PORTRAYING. YOU'RE LOSING  MONEY AS A CITY. AND IN MY  OPINION. SO I IT'S JUST  SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IF WE  NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A  GUIDELINE THAT THAT FEE IS  APPLICABLE TO A SINGLE PARCEL.  SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.  THANK YOU. 2000 OKAY.  >> PUBLIC COMMENT OR MAKES A  GREAT WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH  THIS IT NEVER EVEN OCCURRED TO  ME THAT YOU KNOW IT THERE WAS  NO SIZE LIMITATION. AND I  THINK THE INTENT. ASSUMING  BASED ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT  THE INTENT WAS FOR QUARTER  ACRE LOTS $8,000 BUT NOW AFTER  HEARING THAT PUBLIC COMMENTER  IT COULD BE A 10 ACRE PARCEL  58 PER PERSONAL. IT NEEDS TO  BE CLARIFIED THAT THIS IS PART  80 BY ONE 20 PURSELL. THANK  YOU PUBLIC COMMENT. I DON'T  KNOW THAT IS THE CORRECT  INTENT IF STAFF WOULD LIKE TO  WEIGH IN ON IT.  >> COMMISSIONER WOULD  DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM.  THANK YOU.  >> GOOD AFTERNOON PLANNER  RIGHT DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES. IF THE COMMISSION  WOULD LIKE TO. REVISED WE  WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT BE PER  10,000 SQUARE FEET MORE  PORTION THERE UP. SO THAT IF  IT'S 12,000 FEET ARE STILL  PAYING THAT AN ADDITIONAL  AMOUNT ABOUT THAT BUT IT IT  WAS THOSE COMBINED LOCKS ARE  THE EXCEPTION AND NOT THE  RULE. WE AVERAGE OUT THE COST  TREE  ♪ PERMITS WE SORT OF LOOKED AT  ♪ TIME SPAN. AND THAT'S HOW WE  DETERMINE THAT. THE AVERAGE  COST. SINGLE FAMILY LOT.  10,000 SQUARE FEET. IT WOULD  BE SINGLE FAMILY LOT OR IF LOT  LARGER THEN. 10,000 SQUARE  FEET OF.  ♪ A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY LOTS  ARE 12,000 SQUARE FEET OR  11,000 SQUARE FEET.  ♪ SO. WOULD SAY THAT IS IF A LOT  HAS BEEN COMBINED. FROM A  SINGLE. I DID A LOT AND  COMBINED WITH OTHER PLATTED  LOTS. TO HAVE IT. THE IN  ADDITIONAL FEE. ABOVE THAT.  SINGLE FAMILY, SOMEBODY HAS  GOT A SINGLE FAMILY THAT WAS  PLATTED REGIONALLY IT. 11,000  SQUARE FEET I WOULD WANT TO  PENALIZE THEM.  >> SO IF WE JUST MAKE 15,000  SQUARE FEET LOT. IN COMMENTS  THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH NOW MY  QUESTION THEN IS NOW WE'RE  TALKING ANSWERING IT A SINGLE  FAMILY LOTS. WHAT IF IT'S  PLANTED SINGLE FAMILY. THAT  THAT FLAT FEES FOR  SINGLE-FAMILY OK BUT AGAIN  THAT DOES NOT SAY THAT IN  HERE.  I DON'T HAVE LANGUAGE IN FRONT  OF ME. ALL RIGHT.  >> SO THE HEADING OF THE  SECTION THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL  MITIGATION TYPICAL ZONING  COMPLIANCE ONE AND 2 FAMILY  STRUCTURES.  >> AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT. IF  IT'S A COMMERCIAL LOT OR  MULTIFAMILY THAT IS A TOTALLY  DIFFERENT.  >> THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO AVAIL  THEMSELVES OF THAT THANK YOU  MY MY LITTLE PAPER CLIP  >> COULDN'T SEE THAT PART OF  THE HEADING. SO I APOLOGIZE.  THANK YOU. WE GET. I MAKE A  MOTION IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS  TO TRY ALSO MAKE AN AMENDMENT.  OKAY.  >> THINK PORTION OF THE PUBLIC  LOOKING PROMOTION.  >> PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DID THAT  EVER THAT WAS ROBIN OKAY TO SO  MUCH IS THE ONE IS TO THE  >> ALL  >> RIGHT SO I WENT FOR A  MOTION. MAKE IT I JUST MOVED  TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024, THIS  39, US PERCENT 32. 32, I'M  SORRY OKAY.  >> SECOND FOR DISCUSSION IN A  MOMENT.  >> I HAVE MOTION TO ADOPT  ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021 DASH 32  AS PRESENTED MAY BY VICE MAYOR  STOKES THE SECOND BY  COMMISSIONER MACAU, BUT FOR  DISCUSSION THE WAY MAKE AN  AMENDMENT MANNER MAKE AN  AMENDMENT TO ADD.  >> TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL  MITIGATION FEE IN LIEU OF TREE  REMOVAL MITIGATION PER TREE TO  INCLUDE $8,000 PER 15,000  SQUARE FEET.  >> I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CATCH  THAT YOU MIND REPEATING IT  PLEASE.  >> THOUGH THE IT'S THE  ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION FEE.  IN LIEU OF TREE REMOVAL OF  MITIGATION PER TREE. IT'S KIND  OF FEE OF $8,000. AND I AM  ADDING LANGUAGE. 15,000 SQUARE  FEET.  >> AND THEN AS A WHOLE THE  HEADING OF THE WANT TO SINGLE  FAMILY, YES, RIGHT OK. SO  WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT  RESIDENTIAL. WELL SETTING UP  FOR DISCUSSION.  >> COMMISSIONER DOWN SECONDED  BY VICE MAYOR STOKES. AND YES.  >> YOU KNOW, I QUOTE SOMETHING  THE MENTIONED AND THAT'S THAT  THE $8,000 FEE WAS BASED ON  AVERAGE CHANGE THAT THERE NOT  A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF.  PROPERTIES THAT WERE PACKAGED  SO TO SPEAK FROM LACK OF A  DESCRIPTION. AND SO THE $8,000  WAS PREDICATED ON THE THOUGHT  THAT THERE WERE SOME THAT TO  PUSH THAT NUMBER UP TO 15,000  SQUARE FEET. LENDS ITSELF TO  THE THAT PERHAPS THE $8,000  NUMBERS NOT A GOOD NUMBER  THERE WAS A MATHEMATICAL  CALCULATION BASED OFF THE OF  FEES AND THE $8,000 NUMBER WAS  BASED ON AN AVERAGE.  >> IF WE'RE CHANGING AND WE'RE  MOVING.  >> THE BASE BY WHICH THAT  NUMBER WAS CALCULATED MAYBE A  1000 NUMBER WELL SO THAT LEADS  ME TO SAY WHY MESS WITH THIS  WHEN THEY LOOKED AT IT THE  KNOW COVERED AND THAT COVERED  THE AVERAGE COST THAT YOU KNOW  THEY WERE CAUGHT UP WITH THAT  THE SECOND GUESSING THAT.  >> YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME WHEN  WE WHEN WE DID THAT WE DIDN'T  LOOK AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF  THOSE LOT SO WE IT.  >> IT WAS JUST PER PER MINUTE  FOR SINGLE-FAMILY SO THOSE  LOTS COULD HAVE BEEN 15,000  THEY COULD HAVE BEEN 9,000  THEY COULD HAVE BEEN WELL  PLACED. SO WE ONLY LOOKED  >> AT THE COST WE HAD SOME  THAT WERE TO 3,000 WE HAD SOME  THAT WERE OVER 30,000 AND  ISN'T THAT THE WHOLE LINK TO  COVER YOU TO POST IT NOW WE  CARE WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE  RIGHT AND BEAR IN MIND THAT.  >> THIS DOES COVER HERITAGE  TREES, HERITAGE TREES ARE  SEPARATE. AND IF SOMEONE WANTS  TO STILL GO AND GET A TREE  SURVEY, MAYBE THEY THINK WILL  COME OUT AHEAD IF THEY DON'T  GET IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY  THE FLAT FEE. THEY CAN STILL A  TREE SURVEY AND DO THE  CALCULATION. I DON'T THINK WE  HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT GOING  TO 15,000 SQUARE FEET I THINK  WE'RE STILL GOING TO SEE. THE  CITY. DO VERY WELL ON IT'S NOT  IT'S TRUE. THESE BUT. BECAUSE  WE DIDN'T LOOK AT IT AND WE  DID HAVE WE DID HAVE A LOT TO  ME THERE ARE LOTS THAT ARE  MORE OR LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE I  THINK IT IT AVERAGES  >> ALL RIGHT AND JUST FOR  CLARIFICATION COMMISSIONER  OUTPUT IN THE 15,000 WHICH  MEANS IF IT'S IF IT'S OVER  15,000 SQUARE FEET. SO IT IS  TO LOTS AND THEY COMBINE DID  THIS IS NOT GOING DON'T GET  AWAY $1000 TO CLEAR 20,000  SQUARE FEET FOR ANYTHING OVER  15,000 SQUARE FEET THEY WOULD  HAVE TO PAY.  >> ADDITIONAL SO I WOULD SAY  IF ITS 16,000 SQUARE FEET.  THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY  $16,000 IT'S ANYTHING OVER  THAT 15,000 SQUARE FEET IS AN  ADDITIONAL OKAY.  >> PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT IS  TO PROTECT THOSE LOTS THAT ARE  MORE THAN THE STANDARD LIKE  THAT. THAT'S WHY ME THE  AMENDMENT. OKAY THAT A MAYOR I  HAVE A RELATED QUESTION. YES,  GO AHEAD.  >> THE INTENTION OF THE FEE IS  TO DO WHAT.  >> TO MAKE IT A LITTLE TREE  SURVEYS CAN TAKE MONTHS TO GET  THOSE DONE IN WAYS WE SAW ONE  PERIOD WHERE IT WAS TAKING 4  TO 5 MONTHS FOR PEOPLE TO GET  SURVEYS COMPLETED. WHEN WE  LOOK AT EVERYTHING IT OUT.  OVER THE LONG TERM THE CITY.  DOESN'T REALLY SEE A LOT OF  BENEFIT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY  HOMEOWNERS, MAKING THEM GO OUT  AND GET THE TREE SURVEYS EVERY  IF WE CAN OFFER THEM ANOTHER  METHOD WHERE WE STILL ARE ABLE  TO RECOUP. ENVIRONMENTAL COSTS  REPLANT TREASON IMPROVE THE  ENVIRONMENT WITH THOSE FUNDS.  >> SO.  >> IF IT'S A 10,000  SQUARE-FOOT LOT 15,000  SQUARE-FOOT LOT. WE CANNOT  MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS IN TERMS  OF NUMBER OF TREES, I MEAN I'M  I'M.  >> WORKING OF FAIRNESS I MEAN  WE MAY WE'VE THE OTHER THING  BEAR IN MIND WITH CHANGING  THIS FUND TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL  FEE, WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING IT'S  NOT JUST TREES THAT ARE CUT  DOWN. WE MAY HAVE A LOT WHICH  RIGHT NOW WE MAY HAVE LOTS  THAT DON'T HAVE A SINGLE TREE  THAT WOULD QUALIFY UNDER ARCH  OUR TREE CUT. AS BEING  PROTECTED. IT  ♪ JUST HAS PALMETTO BRUSH ON IT.  UNDER  ♪ THE NEW. THAT LOT WOULD STILL  BE REQUIRED TO PAY A $1000  ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S NOT  JUST TREES THAT ARE IMPORTANT  TO OUR ENVIRONMENT IT IS IT IS  THE ENTIRE LOCKED AND IT'S  IT'S THE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS  BEING SCRAPED OFF A LOT.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL HAS A  FINAL THOUGHT A LOT OF  PROPERTIES ARE ARE.  >> AND SQUARE FEET. AND A LOT  OF PEOPLE ARE BUYING UP THE TO  WATCH TOGETHER IN CLEARING  NOW. AND THIS IS A WAY TO  PROTECT THE HABITAT OF THE  TREES IN THAT WAY THEN THEY  HAVE TO PAY THE DEFEAT TWICE  AS OPPOSED TO JUST ONCE THIS  IS JUST PUTTING CLARIFYING  LANGUAGE OKAY THANK YOU.  >> I THINK NOTHING ELSE VOTE  ON THAT AMENDMENT DO WE KNOW  WHAT THE AMENDMENT WE NEED TO  HAVE REPEAT IT. WE HAVE REPEAT  REPEATING  >> TO LANGUAGE THE  ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION FEE  IN LIEU OF TREE MITIGATION HER  TREE A FEW $8,000 OR 15,000  SQUARE FEET ARE.  >> SO THAT'S THE AMENDMENT  WE'RE VOTING ON SO LET'S FOCUS  ON THAT.  AND THAT PASSES 3 TO  2 COMMISSIONER LANGDON THAT  YOU WANT TO COMMENT.  >> I JUST REALLY FEEL THAT  STAFF DID A GOOD JOB OF COMING  UP WITH AVERAGE. I THINK THE  INTENTION OF THIS IS TO  SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS FOR  RESIDENTS AND PERHAPS REDUCE  THE OVERALL COST WHEN  COMPARING DOING A SURVEY. AND  I THINK THE YOU KNOW A $1000  PER 10,000 SQUARE-FOOT  ADEQUATELY ADDRESSES THAT.  VICE MAYOR.  >> DELIGHTED TO SAY THAT I  AGREE 1000% WITH MISTER LANGE  DO MORE TO IT.  >> GLAD YOU WANT THAT WE DO  THE HEAVY LIFTING ALL RIGHT SO  THEN WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE  TABLE.  >> YEAH EXACTLY.  >> WE MADE TO THE REGIONAL  LIST.  >> THIS IS ORIGINAL MOTION AND  THIS IS THAT THE AS AMENDED AS  YES, BUT THAT'S IT IT'S NOT  COMING BACK AGAINST WHAT I'M  TRYING TO GET THAT BECAUSE  WE'VE ALREADY MADE A CHANGE.  SECOND THAT. SO VOTE ON THE  ORIGINAL. AS AMENDED. AND THAT  PASSES 4 TO ONE COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL I WENT BACK AFTER A  FIRST READING REVIEWED SOME OF  THOSE ORDINANCES.  >> THE FACT REMAINS THE SAME  THOSE ORDINANCES. THOSE  CHANGES NEVER TOOK PLACE.  >> THIS IS CHANGING THE FEES  INCREASING THE  >> AND WITHOUT ANY TRUE  JUSTIFICATION. I CAN'T SUPPORT  SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE  ANY JUSTIFICATION.  >> OK MOVING ON TO ITEM E OR  DECEMBER 2024 DASH 3, AND  SISTER CITY PERIL HOW CAN YOU  READ THIS BY TITLE ONLY.  >> AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA  ADJUSTING THE BASE SALARY RATE  FORMULA AMENDING THE CODE THE  CITY OF NORTH PORT FLORIDA  SECTION 2 DASH 2, 3,  DECLARATION OF SALARY PAYMENT  PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS  PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS  PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY  PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION AND  PROVIDING AN AFFECTED DATE.  >> I THANK DEPUTY CITY MANAGER  THIS YOUR ITEM,  >> THIS IS SECOND READING.  >> STAFF'S AND CERTAINLY  PUSHING JOB I HAVE. REGARDLESS  IT.  >> ALL RIGHT CHANGE FOR  COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH, IN UNDERNEATH THE  NEWLY  >> AND WHAT YOU CALL  >> LITTLE CHART THEY HAVE ON  PAGE 3. IT SAYS THAT EFFECTIVE  OCTOBER FIRST THE SALARY OF  EACH COMMISSIONER SHALL BE  CALCULATED USING THE FORMULA  PROVIDED IN THE STATUTE.  >> BUT THAT STATE STATUTE  REFERENCES COUNTY POPULATION.  AND I REALLY THINK IT NEEDS TO  REFERENCE USING PORT'S  POPULATION, IT'S UNDERSTOOD  THAT IT'S PORT'S POPULATION  BUT BY ONLY REFERENCING THE  COUNTY. ORDINANCE I'M SORRY  THE COUNTIES. REFERENCE IN THE  STATE STATUE. IT COULD BE.  ASSUME THAT YOU'RE USING THE  COUNTY'S POPULATION TO I JUST  CLARITY I'M ALSO GOING TO PASS  OUT. LITTLE SPREADSHEET.  BECAUSE THIS IS FAR THIS IS  FAR MORE THAN 27% BECAUSE THE  STATE. BUYS WHICH REVISED  COMMISSIONS SALARY BETWEEN  FIRST AND SECOND READING. SO  BASED ON THE WAY THAT THIS IS  WRITTEN AT FIRST READING  SALARY WOULD HAVE BEEN $53,600  WHICH IS A 27% INCREASE. IT IS  NOW GOING TO GO UP TO $55,200  WITH A 31% INCREASE AND CITY  CLERK COULD YOU PLEASE MAKE  SURE THIS IS ADDED TO THE  BACKUP MATERIALS. A 31%  INCREASE. I HAVE HEARTBURN  WITH A 27% INCREASE A 31%  INCREASE IS JUST. SO LINE. AND  I HEARD MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS STATE ALL THE  REASONS WHY WE NEED THIS  INCREASE. YOU KNOW WE ARE  DOING NOTHING DIFFERENT. WHAT  OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE  ACROSS THE STATE AND ACROSS  THIS COUNTRY TO WARRANT A 31%  INCREASE. IT'S EGREGIOUS. AND  I GO BACK TO WE ARE COMPLETELY  TONE DEAF. WE'RE WANTING OUR  VOTERS TO APPROVE SOMETHING.  BECAUSE WE NEED MONEY. YEAH  WE'RE SITTING HERE. EVEN  CONSIDERING A 27 OR 31%  INCREASE FOR OURSELVES. I  CANNOT SUPPORT IT I YIELD.  OKAY.  >> BE FOR OTHER.  >> WE DO NEED TO PUT IN NORTH  PORT POPULATION UNDER B.  >> ALL  >> SAY WHERE THAT IS AGAIN  UNDER BE IS THAT WHAT YOU  SAID.  >> SIDE PAGE 3 UNDER THE  CHART. IT'S ROUGH FOR SEEN  STATE'S STATUTE WHICH GOES  RIGHT BACK TO THE COUNTY THAT  STUDENT STATUTE REFERENCES THE  COUNTY'S POPULATION. FOR GOING  TO USE NORTH PORT'S POPULATION  WE SHOULD SAY WE'RE USING  NORTH PORT'S POPULATION.  >> ALL ANY OTHER COMMENTS  QUESTIONS.  >> AMENDMENTS.  >> MAKE A MOTION YOU'RE READY.  I HEAR YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO  PUBLIC COMMENT AND I'M SORRY.  DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.  ABOUT.  >> COMES TO COMMISSION  SALARIES. I'VE BEEN AGAINST  THIS FORMULA WAS POPULATION  PART OF IT. VERSUS BACK IN  2018 WHEN IT FIRST CAME UP.  IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.  THE COMMISSION WILL BE PULLING  WHETHER TO ALLOW ALL THAT'S  GOING TO INCREASE POPULATION  WHICH WILL INCREASE THEIR  SALARIES. WELL. WE'LL USE A  LITTLE BIT OF ALLEGORY HERE.  ONE PERSON RUNNING FOR  PRESIDENT UNITED STATES.  PERSON IN THIS ROOM RUNNING  SENATOR. BECAUSE NOT ONE OF US  IS CONNECTED NOT HAVE THE DO  IT. IT INCREASES IN THE SALARY  OR 2 WHERE THE AVERAGE PERSON  WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO  FOR THE OFFICE. THAT'S JUST  THANK JOHN RAWLINGS.  I  ACTUALLY AGREE THAT YOU ALL  DESERVE THE RACE.  >> AND I'M GOING TO. USE A  LITTLE BIT OF A. DIFFERENT  APPROACH IT I LIKE APPROACH  OUT OF MIND. BEEN UNDERPAID  SINCE I'VE BEEN PORT. THE  CITIZENS HERE EVERY TIME.  THERE IS A OPPORTUNITY TO.  EXPANDED. THE MINING THAT'S  COMING IN TO THE  COMMISSIONERS. IT ALWAYS IS  APPROACH THIS WAY. SO I I LIKE  OFFENSE DEFENSIVE SIDE IT. BUT  WE ALL HAVE TO COLLECTIVELY  LOOK AT THINGS. DIFFERENTLY.  WE'RE LONGER THAT LITTLE TOWN  OF PORT. COMMISSIONERS ARE  GOING TO DO MORE THAN EVER  DONE BEFORE. TRIPLE WHAT  THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.  WHETHER IT'S WHAT DOING MORE  THAN TOGETHER RIGHT NOW.  DOESN'T SEEM TO BECAUSE  COLLECTIVELY ARE DOING MORE  THEN THE PAST COMMISSIONERS  AND THEY WERE UNDERPAID. WE  ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THIS  THROUGH A LENS THAT. IT'S NOT  THE QUALITY OF THE PERSON THAT  BRINGS THE MONT IT'S THE  BUSINESS MINDSET. ALL THE  PEOPLE THAT POTENTIALLY GOING  TO LEAD OUR OUR CITY DOWN THAT  PATH. THAT WOULD ALLOWED THEM  TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. BY  REWARDING THEM. THE RATE OF  PAY. IT ALSO DESERVE WHAT WHAT  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND IN I  GIVE CREDIT TO THE PEOPLE WHO  ARE RUNNING RIGHT NOW. 4 ON  THE SWORD SO TO SPEAK. NOBODY  GETS SOME CREDIT 4. SAYING HEY  THIS IS WHERE IT GO THIS IS  THIS IS A HARD DECISION FOR  ANYBODY THAT'S RUN. KUDOS FOR  THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE  CHALLENGE OF GROWTH IT'S IT'S  WHAT WE AS A CITY HAVE TO  START LOOKING AT. THE CITY IS  GROWING.  WE ALL HAVE TO EMBRACE THE  GROWTH. AND WE ALL HAVE TO  START LOOKING AT THINGS A  LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. THAT A LOT  OF PEOPLE OUT HERE THEY'RE  GOING TO BE OPPOSE WHAT I'M  SAYING AND I LOVE IT AND  THAT'S OKAY. BUT THE TRUTH OF  THE MATTER IS. WE ALSO HAVE A  LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THAT DON'T  EVEN THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION.  SO THIS AND THEY DON'T KNOW  WHAT YOU ALL TOO. AND THEY  DON'T MUCH TIME AND ENERGY AND  TIME AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILIES  AND AND I I I I KNOW PEOPLE IN  THIS AUDIENCE THAT SERVE THE  SAME WAY. THE OTHER SIDE IT.  BUT LET'S GET IT DONE.  >> AND WE DO HAVE COMMENTS OK.  >> THIS PROPOSED INCREASE FOR  COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY  MANAGER JUST MUST NOT BE  PASSED. MANY OF THE RESIDENTS  ARE ONLY RECEIVING A 2.5%  INCREASE IN 2025. THE  COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY  MANAGER TO GET A 30% PLUS  INCREASE SHOWS THAT THE  POLITICIANS ON THE DIET  SUPPORT THEMSELVES. MORE THAN  THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. YOU  DO NOT NEED FURTHER INCREASES  IN THE CITY BUDGET SO POCKETS  CAN BE LINED WITH CASH AND  COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE DOWN THE  SALARIES GEOFFREY PRICE. THE  PROPOSED SALARY INCREASE FOR  THE MANAGER IS A DISGRACE.  CASTLES ELECTED OFFICIALS  SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE  THEMSELVES A PAY INCREASE,  UNLESS YOU LOWER COSTS. WEAST.  I OPPOSE RAISING SALARIES FOR  THE COMMISSIONERS AND I'M ALSO  NOT HAPPY WITH THE 9.5% AND  15% INCREASE IN WATER AND  SEWER FEES. THAT IS ALL.  >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER.  >> I HAD QUESTION, I'M SORRY  ONE WITH THIS IN EFFECT. AMBER  ELECTION TODD. SO WANT TO MAKE  SURE OCEAN TIME OKAY, SO WHAT  HAPPEN TO MAKE GO AHEAD.  >> I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE  NUMBER 2024 DASH 39. WITH THE  FOLLOWING CHANGES. THAT ARE  ADDITIONS THAT WE USE THE  STAGE FOR ME A LOT AT TIME OF  FIRST READING AND USE NOT PORT  POPULATION NUMBERS.  >> OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND WITH  A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON THAT WE USE AND STATE  STATUTES BUT USING A NORTH  PORT POPULATION, STAYED ON THE  A LOT TIME FIRST READING I'M A  FIRST READING THANK YOU. WITH  THE NORTH PORT POPULATION  NUMBERS, RIGHT NUMBERS AND  THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE  MAYOR STOKES. THERE'S NOTHING  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YEAH,  WHY FRUSTRATING THAT GETS  AMENDED EVERY YEAR. FIRST  READING. THAT FORMULA WAS LAST  YEAR'S FORMULA. AND THIS  ORDINANCE IS USING. GOOD  FORMULA CHANGES EVERY YEAR. SO  I NEED TO HAVE SOME CLARITY AS  TO WHY WOULD YOU USE THE  FORMULA AT FIRST READING. THAT  WAS LAST  >> BECAUSE OUR INITIAL  DECISION AND DISCUSSION WERE  BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS.  >> THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A.  RAYS DISCUSSED AND APPROVED BY  THIS COMMISSION WAS FAIRLY  ARBITRARY SO.  >> WE MADE THE DECISION TO  MOVE FORWARD BASED ON A  CERTAIN SET OF NUMBERS SO  LET'S KIND OF FOLLOW THROUGH  WITH WHAT OUR DISCUSSION AND  INITIAL DECISION WAS THAT  FRUSTRATING.  >> FIRST READING WAS JUST  CHANGING THE BASE TO THE 7500.  I I I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHAT  YOUR MOTION IS BUT DOESN'T  MATTER I'M NOT VOTING FOR  EITHER SO SOME TIME OKAY, SO I  DO FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER NOT  UCHITEL COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  STATEMENT THERE FOR YOUR GOING  TO WHAT WE DECIDED WAS ON THE  FIRST READING WAS TO FOLLOW  THE STATE STATUTE AND THEIR  NUMBERS.  >> THAT WOULD BRING IT UP TO  THE 9TH OUT. OR THE 7500 AND  NEXT YEAR UP TO THE 9,005  REMEMBER THOSE NUMBERS  CORRECT. I THINK WHAT WHAT  THEY WERE. SO IF IT'S CHANGED.  ♪ THIS ORDINANCE STATES THAT  WE'RE ALL THE STATE STATUTE.  >> WE WOULDN'T BE CHANGING IT  AGAIN TO THAT. BY GOING BACK  TO THOSE NUMBERS RATHER AND  THEREFORE WOULD I THIS IS FOR  CITY OF TURN. WHAT NEED  ANOTHER BECAUSE WE'RE  CHANGING. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE  ORDINANCE OKAY. NO CAUSE HAS  TO TAKE PLACE AFTER NOVEMBER  WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OR  IS NOT REQUIRE ANOTHER READING  THE BLOCK.  >> THE NOTICE DOES NOT CHANGE  BASED ON BASED ON THE CONTENT  THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT  BE YOU.  >> WOULD ANOTHER  >> WHICH I GOING BACK TO THE  OTHER I'M I'M NOT I JUST WANT  TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T  RESTRICT MOVING THIS FORWARD.  BECAUSE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED  ALREADY BEEN DEBATED. AND NOW  WE'RE VOTING ON FOR THE  SECOND.  >> IS MANAGER AND H R.  >> OK WITH HOW THAT MOTION IS  FOR CALCULATING PAYCHECKS. OR  DO YOU NEED ADDITIONAL  CLARITY. BECAUSE FIRST READING  WAS KEEPING THE BASE OF 7500  PEOPLE TO POUR IN TO BE ALIVE  STILL CHANGED. AS OF OCTOBER  1ST.  >> WE'RE BUT I'M GOING WAIT TO  GET THUMBS UP FROM. THE LADIES  OF THE CORONER THERE  CONFIRMED.  >> AS FIRST READING WAS PRIOR  TO. THE NEW STATE FORMULA BUT  KEEPING IT THE 7500. AND WITH  THAT.  >> NEVER HOPE WHERE THE  RECORD. KIM WILLIAMS AND THE  STRICTER.  >> SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE  INFORMATION FROM THE FIRST  READING IS THAT WOULD SO HAS  THE SAME 75 THAT WOULD BE  EFFECTIVE NOW BUT I DON'T READ  IT TO SAY THAT.  >> IN UP OCTOBER ONE 25 THAT  IT WOULD GO TO THE 9,000. I  THINK THAT'S THE PROPOSAL IN  SECOND READING IS THAT WE 7500  NOW AND THEN IT HAS THE LINE  DOWN THERE THIS AS OCTOBER ONE  25. WE ADJUST TO THE STATE  FORMULA WHICH DESIGNATES THAT  9,000.  >> ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT THAT'S  WHAT I WAS GETTING IN. THAT'S  WHAT I WAS SAYING HE PUTS  YEAH. SO WE DID IN FACT SEND.  >> CHANGING IT TO 7500. BUT WE  SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THE STATE  STATUTE. CLARITY ON.  >> WE SHOULD SHOULD BE A  PRETTY YEAH.  >> I COULD I ALSO CONFUSED BUT  WHAT WHAT YOU WANT TO OCCUR.  THAT MOTION. IT'S A. COULD  CLARIFY RIPKEN WHAT WE WANT TO  HAPPEN. OKAY, LET ME I'D BE  HAPPY TO ADJUST MY MOTION THAT  THAT'S OKAY WITH THE SECONDER  OKAY.  ♪ LET GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE  ♪ THERE.  >> AND  >> THIS GO ANYWHERE.  >> I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE  NUMBER 2024 DASH 39.  >> USING.  >> THE 7500. STARTING AFTER A  NOVEMBER 2024. AS THE BASE.  >> AND MOVING TO 9,000 IN 2025  AS THE BASE. AND USING NORTH  PORT POPULATION FIGURES WHICH  WAS ALWAYS OUR INTENTION  PARENT THAT QUESTION. THAT'S  YOU JUST SAID THAT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> SO BASICALLY IT'S WHAT IS  AT SECOND READING BECAUSE  THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S  HAPPENING AT SECOND READING IS  THE 7500. AND THE 9,000.  >> THAT'S THE WAY THAT I THAT  POINT 6 SEPARATE CHANGING IT  LIKE YOU WANTED TO TO USE THAT  SETTINGS POPULATE RATHER THAN  THE COUNTY. WELL, THE CITY'S  POPULATION IS JUST FOR RIGHT  BUT THE SHEET THAT I PASSED  OUT TAKES IT UP TO THAT 55,000  MARK BECAUSE THE STATE FORMULA  IS FAR MORE THAN JUST THIS  BASE.  >> THAT'S ALL I WAS THAT I WAS  SHARING SO SO BASICALLY IT'S  YOU'RE PRETTY YOU'RE PROVING  SECOND READING AS PRESENTED.  >> SURE ELECTION.  >> YEAH OKAY SO WE HAVE THAT  WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON AND WE STILL HAVE  SECOND BY VICE MAYOR. ALL  RIGHT SO  >> AND JUST FOR ONE MORE QUICK  THING DOES STAFF UNDERSTAND IT  MUCH MORE CLEARLY NOW.  >> YEAH WE'VE GOT A FROM THE  BACK THAT CAME TO LIGHT ON  THAT YOU DO I THINK I  >> JUST TO WHAT WHAT WANT DO  >> IS IN TWENTY-TWENTY FALL.  THIS STATES WOULD INCLUDE THE  CITY'S POPULATION CIVIC  SPECULATION THAT. THAT'S WHAT  WE'RE DOING IT THAT THANK OKAY  ALL RIGHT SO IT'S  >> AND  >> THAT PASSES 4 TO AND STATED  YEAH I COULD NEVER PROVE THIS  HUGE OF AN INCREASE.  >> I DO A 10 MINUTE.  >> YEAH WE'RE GOING TO TIME  BUT WE I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT  JUST REMEMBER WE'VE GOT OUT  YEAH SO WE WE'VE GOT A FEW  THINGS BUT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE  THAT AND NOW TIME FOR I'M  GOING KEEP GOING. YEAH WE CAN  GOING AND YOU KNOW THAT SAYING  LET'S LET'S BREAK IT QUARTER  TELL OR WHATEVER WANT AND NOW  NOT OKAY KNOW THAT'S GOOD.  LET'S I ALWAYS FOR WITH.  >> COMMISSIONER EMRICH NEVER  OKAY. AND SO MOVING ON TO  HERE.  >> GENERAL TO BE 24 DASH 0, 5,  1, SAYS THE CITY CLERK MISTER  POWELL, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> THE HISTORICAL CULTURAL  ADVISORY BOARD IS SEEKING TO  DETERMINE WHETHER THE CITY HAS  ANY INTEREST IN PURSUING THE  FOLLOWING INITIATIVES WONDER  BOTH THE DESIGNATION OF  HISTORICAL SITES AND 2  DESIGNATING SPECIFIC HOMES  HISTORICAL SITES AND  PRESERVATION. BEFORE SEASON  THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS OF SAID  INITIATIVES THEY WOULD LIKE TO  RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM  COMMISSION REGARDING WHETHER  THIS IS WORKING WORTH PURSUING  ANY FURTHER.  >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  MOVING RIGHT TO COMMISSIONER  QUESTIONS. I WANT TO HEAR  QUESTIONS FROM PRIME. YEAH, SO  JUST KEEP IT SHORT. I  APPRECIATE THE. ADVISORY MEMO.  >> BUT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED  THE TURPENTINE DOCK AND THE  RAIL THAT WAS DISCUSSED ON  MARCH 2022. AND WHEN I WENT  BACK TO LOOK AT MEETING  MINUTES AND I KNOW THAT THAT  MAY NOT BE THE SAME OR AND GET  THAT BUT WE ASKED THEM TO SEE  SOME VALIDATION REGARDING THE  TURPIN TIME NOW ARE TURPENTINE  DOCK AND THE RAILROAD SECTION  WITH VARIOUS ENTITIES. SO TO  ME THAT IS STILL KIND OF OUT  THERE AND WHEN I WAS READING  THIS I'M LIKE THIS IS DEJA  CRIME AND AS FAR AS BISCAYNE  PLAZA AND SOME SPECIFIC HOMES.  I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT  THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IS  OF THOSE 2 ITEMS, ESPECIALLY  NOT HOMES WHICH HOMES AND HOW  DO THEY SINK THAT ITS  HISTORICAL OTHER THAN IT BEING  OLD AND POSSIBLY A  REGIONAL NORTH PORT BUILDINGS.  I DON'T KNOW. PERSONALLY I'D  LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE  CLARITY IN IT AND THEN ALSO  THE TRIP IN TIME DOC AND  RAILROAD. GO TO OTHER ENTITIES  TO VERIFY THAT IS HISTORICAL.  >> THAT'S ALL MY OKAY AT THE  BUDDY ELSE SOMETHING TO SAY ON  THAT THINK THERE'S GOING  COMMISSIONER NELSON  >> I DON'T SEE A LOT OF VALUE  IN THIS MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY  CAN REALLY DETERMINE WHAT WHAT  CONSTITUTES A HISTORICAL  PROPERTY HERE. I YOU KNOW  WE'RE NOT THAT OLD CITY I.  APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTS BUT  IT'S NOT SOMETHING I REALLY  WANT SUPPORT AT THIS POINT IN  TIME. WELL A LOT MORE  INFORMATION HERE AND CLARITY.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL I  JUST WANTED KNOW WHY I AGREE  WITH COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  NEED TALK ABOUT THAT AND HOW  SOME PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IT  WAS TURPENTINE THING AT ALL.  >> THEY SAID IT WASN'T THERE  IN THE 80'S SO.  >> AND ARTICLE AGAIN IF THEY  WANTED TO. FAR WITH THAT I  THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT  THE ORIGINAL GENERAL  DEVELOPMENT HOMES THAT WERE  ORIGINALLY BUILT AND I KNOW  SOME 20 YEARS AGO I FOUND OUT  THAT HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF AN  AMERICAN.  >> AND 41 THAT WAS HOUSE  NUMBER 10 BECAUSE A WOMAN CAN  GROW UP STATED THAT SO I DON'T  HAVE NUMBER 10 I DON'T KNOW  WHICH WAS NUMBER WHILE, BUT SO  I THINK THAT'S BEEN WHERE  THEY'RE GOING WITH THIS LIKE  THOSE ORIGINAL HOUSES THAT  WERE FIRST BUILT THAT STARTED  IT. THIS  EMPIRE I DON'T THE HARM IF IT  AT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY  JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S  IF THEY CONTINUE TO PURSUE  THIS IS THAT WHAT THIS ASKING  US TO DO. THEY'RE HAVING  INTEREST IN IDENTIFYING  CERTAIN STARKEL SIGNIFICANT  HOMES RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT  THAT WOULD SOMEHOW AND PEOPLE  DON'T WANT THEIR HOUSES  DESIGNATED BECAUSE THEN YOU  RESTRICTIONS WE DON'T EVEN  HAVE THAT IN PLACE FOR THAT.  BUT IF THEY JUST WANT TO SAY  HEY THIS WAS HOUSE MEMBER  TENNIS WAS HOUSE NUMBER ONE. I  DON'T SEE THE HARM IN THAT.  AND GET IT OUT THERE THAT WE  HAVE THESE. ORIGINAL HOUSES.  SO THAT'S HOW I READ THIS.  YES, I'M SORRY GO AHEAD AND I  THINK COMMISSIONER YOU'RE ON  THE BOARD TO MAKE A MOTION  CORRECT NOT TO COMMENT. OK.  >> SO FROM A HISTORICAL  SIGNIFICANCE IS NOT JUST THE  AGE OF SOMETHING IT'S ALSO  WHAT HAPPENED THERE. SO JUST  THE AGE OF SOMETHING THAT'S  WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IT FOR ME.  IF THE HISTORICAL BOARD WANTED  TO COME BACK WITH A SPECIFIC.  >> PROPERTY IN MIND OF THAT.  >> AND THE PROPERTY OR MORE  WAS OKAY WITH HISTORICAL  DESIGNATION AND THEY THEY HAVE  SOME REZONE MUCH JUSTIFICATION  OF WHY PRESERVING THAT  STRUCTURE. IT IS. FALL AND  10'S OF THE HISTORY OF THE  CITY I WOULD DEFINITELY  ENTERTAIN BUT IT'S JUST  CURRENT RECOMMENDATION IT'S  JUST TOO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK  THEM TO COME BACK IF THEY HAVE  A SPECIFIC PROPERTY IN TIME TO  BRING IT BACK AND MAKE THAT  CASE I'D HAPPY TO.  >> I THOUGHT ABOUT AND IF  NOTHING ELSE IT WOULD GET THAT  OUT THERE HERE'S HERE'S  PROPERTY AND THIS IS WHY WE  THINK IT MIGHT IT SHOULD BE  CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT RIGHT  GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE THAT  WE DO HAVE A STARTLING NUMBER  NOT A 100 YEARS OLD BUT THAT  MEAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE  HISTORICAL PROPERTIES OUT  THERE SOMETHING COULD BE 20  YEARS OLD HAVE SOME SEVERE  RIGHT WANT GATHER THAT YOU'RE  MUCH.  >> YEAH, GOING TO REITERATE  THE SAME AS COMMISSIONER  LANGDON I LOVE TO HEAR THE  INFORMATION LIKE YOU SAID THAT  WAS HOUSE NUMBER 10 NO CLUE. I  LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT  HISTORY OF THE CITY. YOU KNOW  AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT DROPPED  AND HISTORICAL DESIGNATIONS ON  THAT AHEAD OF TIME AND THE  SETTING OUT THEY BRING BACK.  CONVERSATION TO SAY HEY THIS  IS WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN ON AND  THEN WE PURSUE IT FROM THERE  BUT TO HAVE THEM. TO JUST SAY  NO WE DON'T WANT THAT HIM, BUT  I DON'T THINK IS RIGHT BECAUSE  THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR  AS THEY HOST OUR BOARD SO I  WOULD ALLOW THEM PUT THEIR  DEALERS OUT GETTING THE  INFORMATION FREE TO COME BACK  AND THEY CAN SAY HEY LOOK WHAT  WE FOUND. YEAH AND IT MAY  STOPS ALSO I WANT TO KEEP THAT  DOOR OPEN. OKAY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> COMMENT OF THE REFEREE  MOTION OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY  PUBLIC COMMENT. OH ALL RIGHT  GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  MAKE A MOTION  >> TO HAVE THE STAFF LIAISON.  SEND A MEMO TO HISTORICAL  CULTURAL ADVISORY BOARD AND  COPY THE COMMISSION SEEKING  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION  REGARDING THEIR MEMO DATED  SEPTEMBER 11TH. AND REASONS  FOR BISCAYNE PLAZA AND  SPECIFIC HOMES. AND TO SHARE  THE MINUTES FROM MARCH, 3RD.  2022 COMMISSION MEETING. WITH  THE HISTORICAL THE BOARD  SEEKING VALIDATION FOR THE  TURPENTINE DOCK AND RAILROAD.  I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD  TO TELL YOU.  >> I WANT HAVE A.  >> SINCE THEN CITY CLERK READ  THAT BACK FOR US.  >> TO DIRECT THE STAFF LIAISON  TO SEND A MEMO TO THE  HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL  ADVISORY BOARD TOPPING THE  COMMISSION SEEKING ADDITIONAL  INFORMATION. SEPTEMBER 11TH ON  REASONS FOR BISCAYNE PLAZA AND  SPECIFIC HOMES AND TO SHARE  THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH,  3RD 2022 COMMISSION MEETING  WITH THE BOARD SEEKING  VALIDATION FOR THE TURPENTINE  DOCK AND RAILROAD.  >> PERFECT THE ONLY THING IS  IS IT'S THE MEMO DATED  SEPTEMBER 11TH.  >> THANK YOU.  >> THANK YOU, GOOD JOB, YEAH.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT WAS A  MOTION BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL AND SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER EMERGE. THAT  DIRECTION NOTHING ELSE VOTE.  AND THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 RIGHT.  MOVING ON TO ITEM 24 DASH 1,  4, 0, 7, AGAIN SYSTEM CITY  CLERK, HOW THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED  COMMISSIONER LANGDON VIA EMAIL  ON SEPTEMBER 10 2024. NOW LIKE  TO INVITE HER TO SPEAK TO  >> THANK YOU ASSISTANT CITY  CLERK UP KEEP THIS REALLY  BRAVE.  >> WHEN WE THE PATH FORWARD  FOR WARM MINERAL SPRINGS,  PARK.  >> WE APPROVED THE FUNDING FOR  THE RESIDENT INFRASTRUCTURE  MEANING IMPROVING THE SEWERAGE  SITUATION AND WATER SITUATION  OUT ON THE 23 ACRES  SPECIFICALLY. OUR ORIGINAL  CONVERSATIONS MONTHS AGO. I  HEARD FROM THIS BOARD AND THEN  TENSION OR A STRONG INTEREST  AND RUNNING THE WATER AND  SEWER DOWN ORTIZ TO TAMMY  EMMY. WAY TOO. GREASE THE  SKIDS SO TO SPEAK. FOR THE  PROPERTIES ON ON ORTIZ JUST  START ANNEXING INTO THE SO I  JUST WANTED TO BRING IT OUT TO  SEE IF ANYONE ON THIS BOARD  TOO. DISCUSS AND PERHAPS  DIRECT STAFF TO FIND FUNDING  BUT THAT WATER AND SEWER  EXTENSION DOWN ORTIZ I DID NOT  WANT THAT PIECE OF THE  CONVERSATION TO GET LOST AND  SO I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN  WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.  THINK ABOUT THAT AND AND MIGHT  WANT TO DO ABOUT THAT. THANK  YOU COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> OKAY 2 POINTS, I'M A LITTLE  CONFUSED BECAUSE THE TITLE  SAYS ABOUT DISCUSSION ABOUT  ANNEXATION.  >> BUT I'M YOU WANT TO TALK  ABOUT WATER AND SEWER.  >> BECAUSE IT FACILITATES  ANNEXATION THAT YOU.  >> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY  BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT  CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT  CITY WATER AND CITYSEARCH  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS DOWN  TOWARD TEASE. IT WAS MY  UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WOULD  BE NO ABILITY TO UP THOSE  INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES BASED ON  THE DESIGN. SOURCE AND WATER  SYSTEM THAT IT WAS LIKE. A  LITTLE SOMETHING NO IT'S NOT  REALLY A LOOP. BUT IT'S LIKE A  SUPERHIGHWAY INSTEAD BEING  CONNECTED. IT'S JUST LIKE ONE  PIPE. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE  JARGON I'M SORRY BUT I  DISTINCTLY REMEMBER THEM  SAYING NO THOSE PROPERTIES  WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO HOLD  ABOUT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW  THE SYSTEM IS BEING DESIGNED.  I MAY HAVE MISHEARD SO NEED  SOME CLARITY. ANYONE WANT TO  TALK ABOUT.  >> MY SITTING DOWN THE MOMENT,  A TACKLE MIKE THE  CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD  WITH STAFF WAS.  >> THIS IS WHERE THE  ANNEXATION COMES IN AS YES  THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED LOOK  INTO IT, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE  TO VOLUNTARILY ANNEXED INTO  THE CITY TO BE ALLOWED TO UP  INTO IT.  >> THAT'S THAT'S THAT THE  QUESTION AND ANSWERS THAT I.  BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THE  COUNTY WAS FAVORABLE ON. ALSO  CENTURY AND STATION, BUT THEY  COULD DO IT VOLUNTARILY AND  INVOLVES BACK ON THE MOTEL  THAT VERY AN EXTENT BECAUSE  THEY WANT CAN ANNEX PARCEL.  >> BECAUSE THAT'S ON POINTS.  THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE  CONNECTIVITY AND HAS REALLY NO  CONNECTIVITY WANT YOUR WAY  FROM DOCTOR PEACE PARCEL JUST  TOO. WHERE MEL SPRINGER'S  RIGHT AND THEN ACROSS THE  STREET FROM THE MOTEL THAT ALL  THOSE OTHER ONES IN NO MAN'S  LAND BEST UNINCORPORATED AND  THEY COULDN'T VOLUNTARILY  ANNEX IN ANY WAY BECAUSE IT'S  ON CLICKS.  >> I THINK WE NEED A LOT MORE  INFORMATION ABOUT IT AND IT  DEPENDS ON THE PROPERTY  BECAUSE IT THAT THE PROPERTY,  LET'S LET'S LOOK AT BETTS  PROPERTY OUT THERE THAT ABUTS  TO OUR PROPER SHOW UP IT  STARTED THERE IT COULD  SNOWBALL DOWN ORTIZ ONE OF THE  TIME. IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW  THE PLAN WOULD COME TOGETHER.  BUT PUTTING THAT LUBIN IS A  NECESSITY FOR OTHER BUSINESSES  ON US 41 AS WELL SO. THAT'S  ALL PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS  I'VE HAD WITH STAFF OVER THE  PAST FEW MONTHS SO TO SPEAK TO  VICE MAYOR  >> MY TAKE IS THAT YOU KNOW, I  MEAN I THE ALWAYS WORTH  DISCUSSING I WOULD PREMATURE  ONLY BECAUSE LIKE. IF WE WERE  WEREN'T SURE THAT ORTIZ TO  MINERAL SPRINGS.  >> THAT'S SETS THE STAGE.  KINDS OF THINGS. WELL  POTENTIALLY HAPPEN. THERE'S A  LOT OF PROPERTY THAT CAN BE  BOUGHT OUT. I WOULD ENVISION  THAT POINT I WANT. MEANWHILE A  WATER AND WENT DOWN THE  MINERAL SPRINGS. YOU WOULD SEE  A LOT PROPERTY ACQUISITION  ACTIVITY TAKE PLACE IN  CONSOLIDATION THEIR HMOS WOULD  COME IN AND SEE OPPORTUNITY AT  THAT POINT THE ISSUES  COMMISSIONER MAY BE MITIGATED  IN THAT. THERE MAY BE WHAT  MIGHT BECOME EVENTUALLY LARGE  PARCEL OWNERS, THEY DON'T BIG  CHUNKS OF ORTIZ AND PROPERTY  OWNERS WHO SOLD OUT. YOU WE  HAVE NO IDEA WHAT MIGHT  DEVELOP THERE TO ME THE FIRST  STEP IS JUST GET THAT WATER  AND RUN DOWN AND THEN PEOPLE  SEE THE OPPORTUNITIES AND  THEY'LL DO WHATEVER THEY WILL  DO THE COUNTY CLEARLY AFTER  RISKING 2000 TIMES WHEN THE  COUNTY WOULD VOLUNTARILY TURN  OVER ALL THAT INCORPORATED  AREA I GOT A RESOUNDING NO  EVERY SINGLE SO IT'S CLEAR THE  COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO STICK  WITH THAT PLAN SO IT'S GOING  TO HAVE TO CALL WITH  DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FIRST  STEP IS GETTING WATER AND  SEWER DOWN MINERAL SPRINGS.  >> WHO KNOWS I MEAN PROPERTY  SITTING AT THE END THE  QUESTION MOTEL I DO SAY IT'S  BEEN SITTING AVAILABLE FOR  SALE FOR THOMAS ALONG AS LONG  AS I CAN REMEMBER.  >> ONCE HIS SURE THAT'S AN  EASY CONNECTION FOR THAT COURT  FEES THINGS WILL START THE  DOMINANCE MIGHT START TO SO  WHO KNOWS BUT YOU KNOW.  >> SO WE'RE JUST DISCUSSION  TAKES YEAH I HEAR POSSIBLY THE  CITY BUYING UP PROPERTY ONE I  WOULD NEVER BE IN FAVOR OF  THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE  HAVE SO MANY INFRASTRUCTURE  NEEDS TALK THAT'S IT.  >> ELSE  >> IS GOING BY OF THAT  PROPERTY KIDDING ME WHAT TO  WEAR TO HIS TIME AT STREET AND  SEE WHAT PEOPLE COME OUT OF  THE WOODWORK DEVELOPER SEE AN  OPPORTUNITY. THERE IS A THAT  IS PROBABLY ALL OTHER THAN OUT  EAST IN THE AREA. ON  INCORPORATED ON THE ON THE ON  THE LIMITS PORT THAT HAS THE  MOST INCREDIBLE ECONOMIC  POTENTIAL SO. I LEAVE IT TO  THE DEVELOPERS WERE GOING TO  COME IN WITH SOME SERIOUS  MONEY BECAUSE 20 YEARS FROM  NOW WE WILL SEE IT MINERAL  SPRINGS DISTRICT GOD KNOWS  WHAT NO WILL EVER. LEAVE WHAT  WILL BE THERE I HOPE I LIVE  LONG ENOUGH TO SEE IT. NOT SHE  KNOWS WHAT I'M SAYING. ANYWAY  GET WILL CITY. I'M SURE LIKE  >> YES I HEARING THAT THEY  WOULD BE AN APP THAT HIGH TO  REQUEST THAT STAFF BRING BACK  OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE AND ANY  PROS AND CONS THAT WE MIGHT  NEED TO CONSIDER BEFORE WE  APPROVED FUNDING TO EXTEND  THOSE LINES DO WE GET I  THOUGHT WE  >> WE IT.  >> WE WE WE ASKED FOR THE  COSTA GO STRAIGHT TO THE  SPRINGS RIGHT AND THEN WE AND  THAT WAS ABOUT A MILLION  MILLION AND A AND THAT ASKED  ABOUT THE FLU WHICH WOULD HAVE  BEEN 3 YES WE DID GET A COUPLE  NUMBERS. OKAY MY MEMORY SERVES  ME CORRECTLY, AND THAT WAS ON  THE DISCUSSION ON PUTTING THAT  9 MILLION TOWARDS THE  REFURBISHMENT OF WARM SPRINGS,  AND PUT EASEMENT ON IT WAS  THAT THEY HAVE THAT DISCUSSION  BUT MY IMPRESSION WAS IN OUR  LAST DISCUSSION ABOUT ONE  MINERAL SPRINGS.  >> THAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE  KIND OF PUSHED ASIDE AND WHAT  WE APPROVED STOPPED SHORT OF  THAT.  >> FUNDING SO LET ME ASK A  QUESTION OF CITY MANAGER. DO  YOU FEEL AT THIS POINT THAT  YOU HAVE DIRECTION FROM THIS  BOARD. TO PURSUE A PROJECT TO  EXTEND WATER AND SEWER DOWN  ORTIZ.  >> ALONG WITH THE FUNDING.  >> WELL THINK YOU WE ARE  WORKING ON THAT IN THAT WE  THINK THAT'S PART OF THE THE  PRODUCT PLAN BASED ON  EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING  THE FIRST DAYS OF ONE OF THOSE  WE LOOKING AT IT IN VERY  COMPREHENSIVE HOLISTIC WAYS WE  DO THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT  BECAUSE THE 40 TAKEN TO THE  BOARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO GO  DOWN TO IT IF GET THAT  INFORMATION TO WHAT IT WILL  TAKE AND HOW LONG IT WOULD  TAKE TO GO DOWN AND THE  FUNDING. I THINK AGAIN WE NEED  TO JUST BRING THE COUNTY OF  THAT SAME CONVERSATION IS  START WORKING TO SEE IF THEY  WANT TO HELP AS ANNEXATION  HAVE OCCURRED HOWEVER, AND  WHENEVER THEY OCCUR. BUT FOR  US TO BE ABLE TO APPROACH THEM  FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GIVE  PEOPLE THE RIGHT VISION THAT  WE NEED WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS  WORK. SO WE ARE DEFINITELY  AWARE OF TIME IT.  >> DO YOU HAVE A LEVEL OF CALM  BY LET ME ASK IT DIFFERENTLY.  WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME HAS  STAFF. SO FOR BRINGING BACK  SOMETHING.  >> WELL I THINK STEPH CURRY IS  WORKING ON THE FIRST PHASE OF  WHAT WE'VE GOT DIRECTION ON A  FEW WEEKS AGO OR MIDDLE  SPRINGS WHAT YOU GET AT A FEW  OF THOSE EARLY. QUESTION IS  SITUATION THAT THAT WE CAN  MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO  WORK ANOTHER PART AS WELL SO  WE MOVE THE BUDGET DEBATE. IN  THE UPCOMING WEEK JUST TO GIVE  YOU. ONE UPDATE ON THE FIRST  DAY THAT YOU GAVE A LONG WAY  TO GO TO WILL INCLUDE WHAT WE  KNOW AT THAT TIME ABOUT  >> YOU THE OTHER  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT AS  WELL.  >> OKAY GREAT, I LOOK FORWARD  TO THAT. SO I'M AT. ALL RIGHT  SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE AND  FORMAL ACTION ON ALL RIGHT SO  THAT'S THAT IS MADE TO ITEM WE  DO HAVE PUBLIC TELECOM SORRY.  ROLLINS AND SENT WENT ON MY  LIST TO THIS IS WAY MORE THAN  WHAT ABOUT.  >> LISTEN. AS FAR  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS BILL WHEN  I WAS THAT THIS WAS THE PLAN  ALL ALONG TO TURN THE WHOLE  ORTIZ TO A HISTORIC DISTRICT.  AND WE PEOPLE COMING AFTER US  FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT IS  STILL VACANT. AND IF YOU PUT  THE BOARD WOULDN'T SUE OF THEM  THEY WOULD BE SALT. THERE ARE  PEOPLE WAITING IN THE WINGS  SPEED GUYS JUST TO DO THAT.  BUT AS FAR AS MONEY I THOUGHT  THE FLORIDA SPRINGS  DESIGNATION WOULD HELP WE HAVE  STUNNING FLORIDA SPRINGS  DESIGNATION WOULD HELP WITH  ORDER AND SO EXPANSION GOING  TO HAVE TO DO ALL THAT AND THE  WAY. ADDITIONALLY I BELIEVE  THAT WASN'T PLANT YES AGO THAT  WAS SUPPLY FLOW THAT WAS  DENIED THAT I THINK WAS ONE  0.5. SO YOU CAN GET HELP WITH  THAT BUT TO GET THE BULL  ROLAND IS THE BEST AND HAVE  THAT HAPPEN SO THAT WHOLE  DISTRICT I MEAN EVEN THE  HOUSES WHEN I WAS THAT YOU  COULDN'T FLUSH THE TOILET PUT  TOWARD THE PAPER DOWN THE  TOILET. BECAUSE OF WHAT'S  GOING ON THIS SO. A LOT OF  THEM WOULD WANT TO HOLD UP.  AND WE ANNEXED THE SPRINGS AGO  JUST THE SPRINGS, I'M JUST  ANNEX THE MOTEL, SO IT'S JUST  CONTINUE ON DOWN THE ROAD. I  WILL BE  >> THANK THAT'S THAT IS AND SO  NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM D  24 DASH 1, 4, 6, AGAIN  ASSISTANCE HOW THIS IS YOUR  ITEM.  >> HE DRESSED MINUTES WERE  SUBMITTED FOR COMMISSIONER  VIEW ON SEPTEMBER 10 TO 2024  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL PROVIDED  SUGGESTED CHANGES ON SEPTEMBER  1620 24 REGARDING THE  INCLUSION OF INDIVIDUAL  DISTRICTS DEATH WITHIN THE  TOPICS DISCUSSED. THE  RECOMMENDATION WAS DETERMINED  ACCURATE BY THE CITY CLERK AND  CHANGES WERE MADE ACCORDINGLY.  >> ALL RIGHT ANY. QUESTIONS ON  THAT. THAT'S A AND ENJOY  PUBLIC COMMENT THEM. ALRIGHT  SOMEONE IN FROM OCEAN.  >> GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO  APPROVE THESE TIMBER NICE 2020  FOR MEETING MINUTES PRESENTED  WITH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES  SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE  BY VICE MAYOR STOKES TO  APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 9TH 2024  COMMISSION BUDGET WORKSHOP  MEETING MINUTES AS THE TENSION  THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANE THEN THERE'S  NOTHING ELSE THAT'S THAT  PASSES 5 TO 0. I COULDN'T ALL  BE LIKE THAT.  >> LET'S PRAY YOU MADE 24 1,  4, 8, 9, CITY MANAGER FLETCHER  THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> THEY COULD DECIDE IN THE  DISCUSSION OF A POSSIBLE  ACTIVE. REGARDING THE HAITIAN  OF A NEW UNIFIED LAND  DEVELOPMENT CODE OFFICIAL  NOTING ON TOP THE 6 THE GAVE  DIRECTION PUT THAT REVIEW AND  PROVIDE UP TO PROPERTY. OVER  THE CASE THE STATE. AND WE DID  PROVIDE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS  THAT THE MOVE DISCUSS BACK  UPHOLD THE LAW ONLY REQUIRES 2  PUBLIC HEARINGS WHICH THOSE  HERE THE ADVERTISING NEWSPAPER  DO INTEREST AND LEADERSHIP IN  YOU'LL HEAR THAT THE CITY IS  BETTER THE MIDDLE AND THE CITY  TO GO ABOUT THE MIDDLE FOR  MONTHS OVER THE COURSE OF FOR  THE 5TH DAY WE OVER 30 PUBLIC  MEETINGS WORKSHOPS. THIS IS  INCLUDING MANY ELDERLY EVENING  HOURS. OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC  COMMENT WAS AVAILABLE EACH OF  THESE. AT LEAST IN SESSIONS  WERE HELD IN THE EVENING WITH  AN OPEN QUESTION REPORT IT.  MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK  ASK QUESTIONS AND THE CITY TO  PROVIDE ANSWERS. SO THE  SESSIONS WERE BROADCAST LIVE  THE RADIO STATION WKBW STREAM  LIVE ON FACEBOOK EVERY QUARTER  FOR AVAILABILITY ON FACEBOOK  YOU TO THE NEXT DOOR. CITY  ELECTED OFFICIALS CITY STAFF  APPEAR LOT WITH OUR COMMUNITY  SAY THINGS TAKING QUESTIONS  FROM THE PUBLIC IT IS  EXPRESSION ON HERE. THE  BROADCASTER ALSO STREAM LIVE  FACEBOOK A RECORD REAL BILITY  IT DIDN'T CREATE A PODCAST AND  VIDEO OF CITY STAFF TO DISCUSS  SPECIFIC TOPICS RELATED TO THE  PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. IT IS  YOUR FREQUENTLY ASKED  QUESTIONS. THEY WERE ALSO  SPRING IN AVAILABLE ONLINE.  WELL. CITY STAFF CREATED  PRINTED BY PROVIDING  INCENTIVES FOR GREEN,  ESPECIALLY CONTACT INFORMATION  AS THE STAFF IN DISTRICT 2000  FIRES AND WITH PUBLIC EVENTS  CITY WHY WE DID THE CITY ALSO  CREATED A WEB PAGE ON CITY  WEBSITE DEDICATED TO THE COMP  PLAN PROVIDE INFORMATION LEADS  TO DRAFT DOCUMENTS LINKS TO  PUBLIC MEETING VIDEOS AND  CONTACT THE POLICE CITY STAFF.  IT INDIVIDUALLY AND IN SMALL  GROUPS TO WITH THE PRESIDENT  PROPERTY REQUEST. THIS IS THAT  IS ONE OF THE HUNDREDS OF YOU  KNOW TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS OF  REGION AND THE METHOD THAT WE  PROPOSED IN THE MEMO WE BOARD  WE THOUGHT WAS THE BEST IN THE  BEST INTEREST OF WHAT WAS  REQUESTED OF US THAT THE TIME.  WE DO BELIEVE THAT IT MORE  QUICKLY INTO A AS WOULD HAVE  TO GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE  OFTEN DIVIDED WITH THOSE WANT  DO. KNOW. ALL RIGHT.  >> VICE-MAYOR SOAKS  >> APPRECIATE CITY MANAGER  REVIEWING ALL THE THINGS THAT  WE DID 2 WE DID TOO. WE DIDN'T  NEED. YOU KNOW THE LEGAL  OBLIGATIONS AND AND WE DID IN  MANY MANY WAYS DISCUSS THIS  ISSUE OPENLY AND TRANSPARENTLY  AS POSSIBLE. THAT SAID. ONE  CAN ALWAYS DO MORE AND QUITE  FRANKLY I WISH WE HAD PROPERLY  EARLIER ON IT FEIST ALL THE  CITIZENS REGARDLESS OF THE  COST THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN  INVOLVED. I THINK IN HINDSIGHT  THAT WAS A MISTAKE AND IN MY  OPINION. IT WAS A MISTAKE  THAT'S MY OPINION. I BELIEVE  THAT. THE NEXT BEST STEP IS AS  WE GO OUT WITH THIS CARD I  SING ON ON THE ACELA CHANGES,  YOU KNOW AND I THINK THAT'S A  GOOD WAY TO SAVE SOME DOLLARS  BUT AT THE SAME TIME LET THE  PUBLIC KNOW AND HEY IT IS WHAT  IT WE COULD DO IT OVER AGAIN  WE MIGHT HAVE DONE IT  DIFFERENTLY I THINK IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT LEADERSHIP ON  SOMEONE SO I'LL RECOGNIZE THAT  THEY MADE A MISTAKE OR THEY  COULD HAVE DONE BETTER AND BE  DONE WITH IT OK THIS ULDC  NEEDED TO BE IT IS GOING TO BE  A GREAT THING FOR THIS CITY  THE WORLD'S NOT GONNA COME TO  AN END IN THE SKY HAS NOT  PEOPLE IT WILL AFFECT SOME  PEOPLE WHO LIVE VERY BUSY  TRAFFIC AREAS OF OUR CITY BUT  IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT  WAY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.  WE COULD DO LITTLE MORE SO YOU  KNOW I SUPPORT. GETTING THE  WORD OUT WITH THIS CARD THAT  YOU KNOW WILL PEOPLE OF THE.  >> THE PERMANENT CHANGES AND I  THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY TO LET  PEOPLE KNOW WHO MAY NOT  ATTENTION IS FOCUSED ON WHAT'S  GOING ON THE CITY.  >> HIGH COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  AND THE MEMO THAT STATED  SEPTEMBER 27TH JUST NOT  REFERENCE. NOTIFYING ABOUT  PROPERTIES BEING REZONED IT IS  NOTIFYING THAT THE ULDC IS IN  PLACE AND IT'S NOTIFYING THE  RESIDENTS THAT THE CELL IS IN  PLACE. THAT'S USED BY  DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS  CONTACTED TRADES THEY SHOULD  ALREADY KNOW THAT A CELL IS  GOING TO BE IN THERE'S NO NEED  TO NOTIFY ALL OF THE RESIDENTS  ABOUT A SELLOUT. AS FAR AS THE  YOU ONLY SEE THOSE WHY WOULD  WE NOTIFY ALL OF THE RESIDENTS  ABOUT THE NEW ULDC. THE WHOLE  PURPOSE OF THE NOTIFICATION.  WAS TO NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS  ABOUT THE REZONING. PLAIN AND  SIMPLE. BUT THE WE GOT DOES  NOT MENTION REZONING AT ALL.  AND YES, I SENT A VERY TERSE  LETTER TO THE CITY MANAGER  BECAUSE HE IN THAT MEMO WAS  NOT PLANNING TO BRING INTO  COMMISSION EVEN THOUGH THAT'S  WHEN THE DIRECTION WAS TO  BRING BACK OPTIONS TO  COMMISSION. SO YOU WE HAVE  TODAY GRATEFULLY THAT WE'RE  HAVING THIS DISCUSSION BUT TO  SEND A POSTCARD.  >> TO ALL. OF THE PROPERTY  OWNERS OF PORT TO INFORM THEM  A  >> AND THE ULDC TAKING PLACE  POINT LET'S VENTURE. THEY  SHOULD ALREADY KNOW ABOUT 90%  OF THE PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T  EVEN KNOW WHAT THE ULDC IT.  STATION WAS ABOUT REZONING AND  NOTIFYING THEM I WOULD BE 100%  ON BOARD. BUT IT'S NOT. THAT'S  NOT ABOUT REZONING. THIS IS  WE'VE GOT SEPARATE. DON'T EVEN  KNOW THE PURPOSE OF THAT.  >> JUST FOR THE THE PUBLIC IS  HOLDING UP POSTCARD WENT OUT  LAST WEEK.  >> OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER  COMMENTS ON THAT. ALL RIGHT  WELL, IT SAYS INFORMATION  ABOUT THE UVALDE SAYING. IS  CITY MANAGER HAS A DIRECT  PEOPLE TO THEM WEBSITE. THAT  WOULD BE TIMES BUT I WOULD  NEED A PERMISSION  >> WHEN THE MEMO WAS WRITTEN  WE NOT EVEN BEGUN TO LOOK AT  WHAT THE WORDING WOULD BE ON A  POSTCARD. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME  MARKUP LANGUAGE AND IT THE  WHAT WE WOULD PUT ON A  POSTCARD DOES INCLUDE A NEW  ZONING MAP FOR THE CITY.  ♪ SO IT WOULD BE VERY CLEAR ON  THE POSTCARD THAT IT'S  ♪ TALKING ABOUT THE NEW ZONING  DISTRICTS CITYWIDE. AND.  >> THAT THE REST OF THE THE  WEBSITE IT WENT YES, I'M SORRY  I I IN MY BRAIN THE LAST  COUPLE DAYS BUT. YES, IT WOULD  IT WOULD DIRECT THEM TO THE  CITY WEBSITE SPECIFICALLY TO  THE PLANNING PAGE SO THEY  COULD FIND. THE NEW ZONING  THERE'S IN THAT WERE PUT  PUTTING TOGETHER AN  INTERACTIVE ZONING MAP THAT  THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PULL UP  THEIR PARCEL HONOR THEIR BUT  AT THE VERY LEAST IT IT'S  NOTIFYING AND THERE'S BEEN  CHANGES MADE CHANGES AND  HERE'S OUT YEAH MUSIC AND  PURSES TO FIND OUT WHAT THOSE  CHANGES HAVE BEEN IF THEY SO  DESIRE TO DO THAT.  >> AND I THINK THAT WAS  INTENTION OF THAT AS WELL AND  THE CLASS IS. I GUESS THIS THE  SO $100,000 THAT.  >> SO THAT HAS THAT HAS BEEN  REVISED SINCE THAT BASED THAT  COST ON ONE A GUESSTIMATE OF  HOW MANY PARCELS WE HAD IN THE  CITY WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ACTUAL  COUNT AT THAT POINT.  >> TO THE COST THAT IT THAT WE  PAY TO SEND A NOTIFICATION OUT  REZONING I'M A PRIVATE  REZONING AND IN THE CITY.  THAT'S A MUCH SMALLER SCALE.  ONCE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS  POST PROCESS WE GOT IN TOUCH  WITH THE COMPANY THAT DID THE  COMMUNICATIONS HAS CALLED.  ALSO WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN  HOUSE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO  BRING IN TEMPORARY  ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON TO DO  THAT MAILING BECAUSE IT'S A  LOT OF POSTCARDS. WE GOT LAST  WEEK THE FINAL COUNT OR A  FORMAL OFFICIAL COUNT OF THE  NUMBER OF PARCELS WITHIN THE  CITY. SO THAT CAME IN A LITTLE  BIT LOWER THAN WHAT WE HAD  1000 LOWER THAN WHAT WE  ESTIMATED AND IF WE GO WITH  THIS AND OUTSIDE COMPANY LIKE  ONE DID WE DO BIDS OF COURSE  BUT OUTSIDE COMPANY LIKE THE  ONE COMMUNICATIONS. WE WOULD  NOT NEED TO BRING IN A  TEMPORARY AND IN PERSON TO DO  THE MAILING. AND THERE IS  ECONOMY OF SCALE THAT WE WOULD  GET WITH THAT COMPANY. SO WE  THINK IT WOULD COME LOWER  THEN. WHAT THRESHOLD IS TO  NEED TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT  WE THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE THE  FUNDS WITHIN OUR OKAY TO DO  THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK ALL  ♪ >> THAT WAS THAT AS MY  ♪ >> ONLY COMMENT QUESTION ON  THAT SO DO WE HAVE ANY. PUBLIC  COMMENT AND I'M SORRY.  >> MANY PARCELS WOULD YOU BE  SELLING SENDING THIS TO.  >> A LITTLE OVER 77,000.  >> BECAUSE ONE LOOKING AT THE  MEMO IT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING  ABOUT ZONING MAP, IT'S JUST  GOING TO BE A LINK.  >> SO AS I SAID I OUT WE HAVE  NOT WORKED THE U.S. WHEN WE  SAY YOU NEW ULDC WHEN WE TALK  ABOUT THE ULDC WE INCLUDE THE  ZONING THAT NET THAT'S ALL  PART OF HIS.  >> YOU KNOW THE SEA HAS NEW  ZONING DESIGNATIONS CAN'T HAVE  HIS OWN AS NATIONS WITHOUT  ZONING MAP SO. IT'S ALL PART  OF THE CONVERSATION WITH US  WHEN WE MENTION ULDC THE YOU  WERE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE  SOMETHING FOR THE ULDC BUT  OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE SEND OUT A  POSTCARD TO. THE PUBLIC. WE  GET VERY EXPLICIT ON THE  LANGUAGE THE MOCK-UP THAT  WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. DOES  CITE DES SPECIFICALLY SAY NEW  ZONING.  >> AND THEN I APPRECIATE THE  CONVERSATION BECAUSE SOME OF  THE THINGS THAT I'M HEARING  TODAY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN  THAT MEMO. SO I APPRECIATE  GOING TO WE HAVE BEEN HAVING  DISCUSSIONS IN THE WORK ON  THIS INSTANCE.  >> WE JUST GOT THE MEMO LIKE 2  WEEKS AGO.  >> HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY THE  NEW PRICE WOULD BE IF IT'S NOT  THE 100 THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING  IT WOULD BE SOUTH LESS THAN  35,000.  >> IT'S A BIG ECONOMY OF SCALE  SAVINGS AND ALSO NOT HAVING TO  BRING IN A TEMPORARY ADNAN  PERSON THROUGH OUR THROUGH OUR  TEMPS SERVICE. AND THERE SAYS  THEY HAVE SOME SPECIAL POSTAL  RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE MONTHS  WANT OKAY PUBLIC COMMENT ROBIN  CENTER CENTER.  >> THIS WAS JUST A UP THANK  ♪ ♪ I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED SO I  GOT THE. POSTCARD.  >> I ALSO I'M LOOKING AT. FOR  TRUMP AND THE PRINTING. 4  30,000 POSTCARDS.  ♪ SO IF THIS POINT IT DOESN'T  POSE PARTS. LIKE THIS.  ♪ 14,000 CHANGE. SO CLOSE CALLS  LIKE COULD GO OUT TO THOSE  PROPERTIES THAT WERE LEE'S  OWN. LETTING THEM BY THE WAY  YOUR PROPERTY WAS IN FACT THE  MAP AND YOU CAN PUT THE  GUIDELINES ON THE FRONT. FROM  NOW WITH WHAT ALAINA THANK YOU  JUST SAID TO BE CHANGED THE  PRICE. ABOUT 77,000 HOUSEHOLDS  OR A LITTLE LESS THAN 35 A.  WHILE WE'RE GOING BACK AND  FORTH THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN  DONE THAT. WE COULD NOTIFIED  OR ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE  UP IN ARMS AND THAT FANS BUT  HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP  HERE AND SAY HEY BY THE WAY OF  THIS BUT THIS POST MY WHOLE  PROPERTIES CAN MINE ABLE OF  BEING RESOLVED. THAT'S PROPER  NOTIFICATION. THAT'S WHAT IT  SHOULD WE COULD STILL DO THAT.  WHAT ARE WE GOING TO MAIL OUT  AND LET THEM KNOW 77,000  HOUSES THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT  BUT HE'S BEEN HIS THAT'S THE  HOPEFUL THAT'S WHAT I DON'T  UNDERSTAND YOU DOING THIS  ALONG THAT THIS IS THE PRICES  FOR 15 GRAND 44,000  HOUSEHOLDS. SHOULD WE COULD  HAVE ALL THOSE CORRIDORS AND  EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE  BEEN RESOLVED. SO THEY HAVE  THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.  AND NOT JUST SLAPPED IN THE  FACE OF A SUDDEN SURPRISE. SO  I THINK WE NEED TO RETHINK  WHAT PUTTING OUT ON MOST PART  THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO REACH  PEOPLE. IT'S NOT THAT MUCH  THAT IS ALL.  >> PROMOTIONAL MAKE VICE MAYOR  MOVED TO DEVELOPED SERVICE  DEPARTMENT'S RECOMMENDATION  NOTIFICATION PLAN. ALL RIGHT  WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY VICE  MAYOR STILTS OR PROVE  ENDORSEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES DEPARTMENTS RECOMMEND  RECOMMEND.  >> RECOMMENDED NOTIFICATION  PLANNING THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER AND RICH THERE'S  NOTHING ELSE. AND THAT WHAT.  >> THEY HAVE WON THEIR CAUSE  YOUR YOU'RE GOING FAST. I WAS  REACHING OUT NOW. YOU WANT TO  HEAR FROM YOUR DAD WANTED TO  SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN.  >> YOUR CITY YOU. WE'VE GOT A  VOTE.  >> MONEY IT'S UNNECESSARY. AND  THAT PASSES 5, 0, ALL RIGHT.  WE HAVE ANY FINAL PUBLIC  COMMENT. ROBINSON DISSENTING.  >> WHAT DID YOU SIT THAT IF  YOU DO  >> YOU KNOW IN THE BEGINNING  OF THE MEETING WHEN I MADE IT  PUBLIC COMMENTS OF FUN. IS  RIGHT WHAT THEY DID WITH HER  BEFORE LUNCH WE DON'T HAVE I  WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I I  THANKED CHIEF TITUS AND HIS  OTHER 100 AND THANK YOU TO  CHATTER IS GROUP. EVERYBODY  ELSE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK  EVERYBODY KNOWS GOES INTO. ALL  ♪ OF THAT AND THE COORDINATION  WITH THE COUNTY AND THE COURT  NATION. ALL OVER WITH STATE  AND FEDERAL SO I WANTED TO  MAKE SURE I THANK THEM AS  WELL.  >> THANK YOU ROB AND YES JUST  TO TO TO GET BACK WHAT YOU  SAID YOU KNOW I WAS I WENT TO  THE E E O C THAT WE HAVE  WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT  HERE I REALIZE THEY'RE HERE  AND EVERYBODY ARE NOT WITH  THEIR FAMILIES WITH EVERYBODY  ELSE OUT. SHIP THAT.  >> LET'S MOVE TO COMMISSION TO  COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> WE HAVE 7 MINUTES BEFORE  OUR NEXT SO IN THE INTEREST OF  HOLD MY REPORTS FOR NEXT  MEETING OKAY. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL NEXT MEETING.  >> COMMISSIONER HOLD ONLINE OR  TEXT MEETING TO TALK ABOUT  TONIGHT, OKAY.  >> I THOSE. COMMISSIONERS YOU  KNOW OKAY.  >> CHARTER  >> EUROPE AT YES INTERIM CITY  ATTORNEY HERO CAT NOTHING  REPORT, THANK YOU OKAY, SO IT  >> THIS MEETING.