##VIDEO ID:b9mo8AdJqTo## IT'S NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T  HAVE TO BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL  YOU'RE USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT  USING THE ANGLES THAT YOU  CHOOSE TO USE ON THE MAN'S AND  IT JUST VARIES WITH HOW YOU'RE  COMFORTABLE AND HOW YOU'RE  FEELING WHEN YOU'RE HERE.  ♪ >> HELLO EVERYONE MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL ON THE AQUATICS  MANAGER WITHIN OUR PARKS  RECREATION DEPARTMENT CENTER  JUST TO TALK TO EVERYONE ABOUT  A BLOW FOR LIFE PROGRAM WE  RECOGNIZE THAT NATIONALLY  UNINTENTIONAL DROWNING IS THE  LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR  CHILDREN UNDER UNDER THE AGE  OF 4. SO WE HAVE AN AWESOME  PROGRAM HERE CALLED FLOAT FOR  LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE IS A  PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH THAT  STARTS WITH THE FUNDAMENTALS  OF FLOATING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY  LEARNED SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM  IS TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN  AGES 6 MONTHS TO 4 AND WHAT WE  WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT  THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE  WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY  FALL IN THE WATER WHERE FIND  THEMSELVES IN A TROUBLED  SITUATION, THEY CAN ROLL OVER  THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE  LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM I WE'RE  THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT  WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS  MILESTONE PROGRAM SO WANT TO  GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR NORTH  ROTARY AS WELL WHO SPONSORED  THIS PROGRAM HERE AT THE  AQUATIC CENTER AND ACTUALLY  PAY FOR A TRAINER TO COME ALL  THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA RIVERS  PROGRAM ORIGINATES THERE WE  PRACTICE AND WE GO THROUGH  WHAT'S CALLED MILESTONES HERE  SO AS SOON AS THE KIDS  PROGRESSIVE, THE MILESTONE CAN  CONTINUE MOVING ON THROUGH  THEM.  >> AND AT THE END OF IT IT'S A  PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM WHEN  THEY GRADUATE AS ONE OF THE  FINAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IS  THEY JUMP IN FULLY CLOTHED AND  THEY HAVE TO TURN OVER ROLL  OVER ON THE BACK AND ACTUALLY  BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR HELP AND  POINT IN TIME, IT'S JUST AN  AWESOME SEGMENT PROGRAM THAT  LEADS RIGHT INTO OUR LEARN TO  SWIM PROGRAM SO THAT WAY WE  CAN  ♪ >> MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING OUR  KIDS SAFE IN ON AND AROUND THE  WATER.  >> OH MY  >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.  TODAY MONDAY 1/6/2025. IT'S  10:00AM WE'RE IN CITY  ♪ CHAMBERS AND A COOL CITY  COMMISSION WORKSHOP MEETING TO  ORDER. COMMISSIONERS PRESENT  ARE COMMISSIONER DUVAL  COMMISSIONER LANGDON MAYOR  STOKES VICE MAYOR EMRICH THERE  IS A QUORUM PRESENT FOR THIS  MEETING ALSO PRESENT OR CITY  MANAGER FLETCHER IN TERMS CITY  ATTORNEY GOAL AND CITY CLERK  FAUST  ♪ POLICE CHIEF THERE SAYING AND  FIRE CHIEF TIE.  >> DEPUTY PRESS, I'M SORRY,  YOU COULDN'T TELL. ALL RIGHT.  6 OH AT SEA. ABOUT MISTER  FENTON WITH DUE CARE TO LEAD  US IN THE PLEDGE. TO IT ONE  NATION. THEY'RE GOD.  >> INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY  JUSTICE FOR ALL. PAUSES HAHA.  ALRIGHT CITY CLERK DO WE HAVE  ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.  WE HAVE ONE. IT.  >> BEEN SENT AND AND DON'T.  EXTRA SPENDING STOP PAYING  CONSULTANT HIGH STAFF BEING  HIRED NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE BASED  ON 2024 ELECTIONS. YOU SHOULD  ONLY BE FOCUSED IN 2025 ON HOW  TO CUT STAFF BY 30% HOW TO CUT  BUDGETS IN PREPARATION FOR  NEXT BUDGET. ALSO BIRD DOG DOT  MONTHLY TOO OPEN RAMPS THAT  SUMTER AND TOLEDO AND  FINISHING PRICE FOCUS ON  STOPPING GOVERNMENT BLOW  PROJECTS IN PM SHOULD BE FOCUS  THIS YEAR AND THANK YOU MA'AM.  >> A FIRST STEP WE HAVE  PRESENTATION OF THE 5 THIS  1766. MANAGER THIS IS YOUR  ITEM.  >> JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS  1766 A DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE  DIRECTION REGARDING ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT STUDY OF FINANCIAL  CONDITION ANNOUNCES PREPARED  BY PFM FINANCIAL ADVISORS LLC  THIS IS THIS IS THE REPORT OF  2 OF THEM TO FORCE WERE  OUTSOURCED OUTSOURCING LAST  YEAR STATIONS ON WITH THAT  JUST GO NOW SAYS WE NEED TO  KNOW WHERE WE WERE AS FAR AS  HOW THE ULDC UPDATES WAS GOING  TO IMPACT THIS CITY IN THE  NEXT FEW YEARS AS WELL AS SOME  OUT WE'RE LOOKING YEARS AS  WELL KNOWING THAT WE HAVE  NEEDS THAT HAVE TO IT. WE ALSO  WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ECONOMIC  IMPACT OF IT GLOBALLY FOR THE  CITY NOT JUST WHAT THE CITY,  ITS RESOURCES WE'RE GETTING  INTO BUT ALSO THE CITY AS A  COMMUNITY WE WOULD IMPACT US  AS A WHOLE. SO THESE ARE THE  REPORTS FOR THESE 2 WE WILL BE  LED BY MISTER JERRY NEUFELD  FROM OUR P AT THEM BY BELIEVE  PRESENTATION TO HAVE IT.  MYSELF MY TEAM, INCLUDING OUR  BUDGET DIRECTOR ASSISTANT  DIRECTOR ARE HERE TOO IT'S A  QUESTION FOLLOWING THE REPORT.  AND IT WITH YOU. WARM AIR.  >> NEW YEAR COMMISSIONERS.  >> I'VE BEEN HERE A FEW TIMES  IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS TO GIVE  AREAS PRESENTATIONS.  >> I HAVE A COMPONENT OF THIS  THAT'S RELATED TO  STRATEGICALLY ACCESSING MARKET  BUT REALLY THIS IS A GROUP  CONSULTING ALAM EVALUATION NOW  SAYS THAT IS LED BY KEVIN  PLANNED HE'S A PARTNER MIND  THAT WORKS ON THE LAND  COMPONENTS. BILL FULTON LIVES  WITH PFM THOSE LAND USE IN  ELSA'S PLANNING. RICHARD ALSO  JOINING AS TYPICAL WITH OUR  WORKSHOP STYLE. YOU KNOW,  WELCOME TO QUESTIONS ON THE  WAY STOP THERE'S ANYTHING WE  CAN PROVIDE CLARIFICATION I  KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS WILL  BE DISCUSSED HERE VERY  TECHNICAL IN NATURE,  ESPECIALLY WITH THE MODELING  WE ARE GOING TO DO A WALK  THROUGH OF THE MODEL TO JUST  PROVIDE A CENSUS TO WHAT GOES  INTO THE WORK PULL TOGETHER.  YEAH PUT ON THE MALL. SO.  SNAREY WILL BE SOMETHING THE  BILL PROVIDES ALL ALONG WITH  THE FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS  REFUTE. HOUR WE WILL DISCUSS  FISCAL MODEL REVIEW AND  PROVIDE A DEMONSTRATION I WILL  TALK A BIT THROUGH THE  FINANCING. ASKED THE UN  OPTIONS THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM  KEVIN ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT  ANALYSIS FOR. WE'LL HAVE  QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION  AFTERWARDS AND. WE'RE A LONG  WAY FEEL FREE TO AS QUESTIONS.  >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.  MY NAME IS BILL FULTON AS  JEREMY AND A LAND USE GOING TO  GO OVER THE SCENARIOS THAT  WERE USED TO DO THE FISCAL AND  ECONOMIC IMPACT OBVIOUSLY IN  ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE FISCAL  AND ECONOMIC IMPACT OF FUTURE  DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE TO MAKE  SOME OF FORECAST ABOUT WHAT  THAT FUTURE LAND USE PATTERNS  DEVELOPMENT GOING TO LOOK  LIKE. I'M JUST REMIND YOU YOU  KNOW THIS BETTER THAN WE DO,  BUT THIS IS THE REVISED.  FUTURE LAND USE UNDER THE  UNDER THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE  PLAN, WE'LL SEE A PARTICULAR  ACTIVITY CENTER 6 TO 10 OVER  ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ALONG I  75.  >> THAT.  >> PORTENDS A VERY SIGNIFICANT  CHANGE IN FUTURE LAND USE THAT  WE'RE GOING SHOW THAT WE THAT  USED WE TALKED LITTLE BIT  ABOUT THAT.  >> AS YOU KNOW THE SAYING IS  YOU KNOW BETTER THAN WE DO THE  CITY. RECENTLY ADOPTED CHANGES  TO THE CONFERENCE PLAN TRYING  TO GET AWAY FROM SOME OF  SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT GO WAY  BACK IN ORDER TO DO ESTIMATE  THE FISCAL AND ECONOMIC  IMPACT. WE DID WE CAME UP WITH  3 SCENARIOS TO COMPARE  SCENARIO ONE WAS ESSENTIALLY  THE OLD SYSTEM. HISTORIC OF  PREVIOUS UNIFIED LAND  DEVELOPMENT CODES WHICH END  THIS SCENARIO ASSUMES A 3 PER  CENT ANNUAL POPULATION GROWTH  RATE WHICH IS SORT OF  CONSISTENT WITH HISTORIC  STANDARDS RAY SHOW AND  EMPLOYMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF  POPULATION OF 0.2 5 THE  CURRENT RATIO 0.1 5 WITH 0.2 5  MEANS IS THERE'S ONE JOB FOR  EVERY 4 RESIDENTS. SO THAT WAS  SCENARIO ONE THAT WAS SORT OF  THE BASELINE BUSINESS AS  USUAL. PRIOR TO YOUR CHANGING  A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND HERE  YOU ALL THE CITIES. SCENARIO  ASSUMES THAT THE MARKET  RESPONDS ENTIRELY TO THE  UPDATED YOU THE SEAS, IT  ASSUMES A VERY AGGRESSIVE  ANNUAL GROWTH RATE OF 4% AND  THAT EMPLOYMENT POPULATION  RATIO OF 0.4 5 MEANING THAT  THERE IS ALMOST ALMOST ONE.  JOB FOR EVERY 2 RESIDENTS  WHICH IS A BIG CHANGE FROM THE  CURRENT SITUATION, RECOGNIZING  THAT THE MARKET MIGHT NOT  IMMEDIATELY REACT TO THE  CHANGES IN THE CONFERENCE OF  THE SEAS WE ALSO CREATED  ANOTHER SCENARIO, A SLOWER  GROWTH SCENARIO THAT STILL  IMPLEMENTS THE UP LIMITED  UPDATED ULDC SORRY FOR THE  TYPE OF THERE. BUT ASSUMES A  3% ANNUAL GROWTH RATE WHICH  CONSISTENT WITH HISTORY  EMPLOYMENT POPULATION RATIO OF  0.3 3 THAT WOULD BE ONE. ONE  EMPLOYEE WITHIN THE CITY EVERY  ONE JOB WITHIN THE CITY FOR  EVERY 3 RESIDENTS. AND THE  ESSENTIAL CAPITAL NEEDS OF  UNIDENTIFIED WILL BECOME  THROUGH A COMBINATION OF IT  GO. AND FINANCING. I JUST A  LITTLE BIT OF A SCENARIO HERE.  UNDER THE HISTORIC ULDC AS YOU  CAN SEE THE BILL DOUBT AS A  126,000 POPULATION OF 180 IN  20 3580 2055. THAT GOES WAY  AND OR IF THE UNDER THE  UPDATED YOU KNOW THE SEAS AND  THEN THE SLOWER GROWTH  UPDATED, YOU KNOW THE SEAS  WHICH WE THINK IS PROBABLY  MORE A MORE REALISTIC MARKET  RESPONSE TO TO YOUR CHANGES. A  127,000 POPULATION 23 5 231 IN  2055, YOU CAN SEE ALSO A VERY  SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN ALL  SCENARIOS. IN THE EMPLOYMENT  WITHIN THE CITY. AS AS COULD  BE SAID OF 6.10 GET BUILT OUT  PARTICULARLY AFTER 2038 2039.  JUST WHEN WE ASSUME THE NEW  INTERCHANGE WOULD GO IN YOU  CAN SEE EVEN BY 2035. YOU'VE  GOT SOMETHING LIKE 23 TO  25,000 JOBS WHICH IS  SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN YOU  HAVE NOW. THESE 3 SCENARIOS  RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY  DIFFERENT TOTAL POPULATION  FORECASTS LARRY MENTIONED THAT  YOU CAN SEE BY 2055. ANYWHERE  BETWEEN A 18300,000 PEOPLE  ANYWHERE BETWEEN 4 44,000 A  135,000 JOBS AS I SAY WE  BELIEVE MARKET RESPONSE WILL  BE MORE IN THE SLOWER GROWTH  AREA WITH THE 230,000  POPULATION AND THE 75,000 JOBS  OF THE SCENARIO ALSO RESULTED  IN THE FORECAST OF INCREMENTAL  DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT 30  YEARS. CURRENTLY ABOUT 40,000  OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS ABOVE  5 BILLION 5 MILLION SQUARE  FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL SPACE.  YOU CAN SEE THAT UNDER  PREVIOUS HISTORIC ULDC IS WHAT  WE'RE FOLLOWING THIS STORY AS  YOUR PREVIOUS SYSTEM THAT JUST  ABOUT DOUBLE. BUT EVEN UNDER  THE SLOWER GROWTH UPDATED ULDC  AS YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE A VERY  SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO BUT OF  60,064 1000 UNITS OF THE ABOUT  A 100,000 ALTOGETHER AND FOR  YOU GO YOU TRIPLE THE  NON-RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE  FROM 5 TO 15 MILLION THAT  WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE  ADDITIONAL EMPLOYMENT GROWTH  THEY WILL SAY AS WELL WE  ASSUMED IN ALL SCENARIOS. THAT  OVER TIME BECAUSE OF YOUR  CHANGES IN THE YIELD THE SEAS  OVER TIME YOU WOULD GRADUALLY  GET A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF  MULTI-FAMILY OF A SMALLER  PERCENTAGE OF SINGLE FAMILY  OVER TIME PARTICULARLY AS YOU  SEE THE CHANGES IN THOSE LOT  AREAS. SO WITH THAT I BELIEVE  MILLER RICHARDS IS SOMEWHERE  IN THE ETHER. AND SHE IS YES  ARE YOU THERE. MALLORY.  >> I AM HERE GOOD MORNING TO  RUN SHE'S GOING MOVE KEVIN  WILL DRIVE THIS OUR ENOUGH.  PERFECT THANK YOU SO MUCH.  >> SO MOVING ON TO DISCUSS THE  FISCAL IMPACTS ACROSS THE  DEVELOPMENTS IN AREAS. SO PFM  ANALYZED BUT THE ECONOMIC AND  FISCAL IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED  DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS AND THE  FISCAL IMPACTS REPRESENT THE  ACTUAL ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES  AND PEOPLE HAVE ON THE REVENUE  AND EXPENDITURE PROFILES OF  THE CITY. WELL THE ECONOMIC  IMPACT REPRESENT THE IMPACT OF  THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE LOCAL  ECONOMY, TYPICALLY MEASURED  THROUGH JOBS, WAGES AND  OUTPUT. SO WE'LL GET TO THE  ECONOMIC IMPACTS IN THE SECOND  BUT FOR NOW WE'LL DISCUSS THE  FISCAL IMPACT. SO WHAT IS A  FISCAL WE LOOKED AT FISCAL  IMPACT ON THE OPERATING  BUDGET. SO THAT WILL BE THE  ACTUAL IMPACT OF RESIDENTS  EMPLOYEES AND VISITORS AS WELL  AS BUILDING STRUCTURES ON THE  CITY'S GENERAL FUND DISTRICT  FUNDS CETERA. AND THE REVENUES  INCLUDE THINGS LIKE TAXES FEES  AND OTHER CHARGES. WELL  EXPENDITURES REPRESENT THE  ADDITIONAL COST OF GOVERNMENT  PROVIDED SERVICES SUCH AS  POLICE HUMAN SERVICES ETC TO  ACCOMMODATE THAT NEW  DEVELOPMENT. THE CHART ON THE  SCREEN AT THE AT THE BOTTOM  HERE SHOWS THE ADDITIONAL  TAXABLE VALUE DEVELOPED  PROPERTIES BY SCENARIO SO AS  YOU CAN SEE SIGNIFICANT  PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE  GENERATED ACROSS DEVELOPMENT  SCENARIOS WITH THE HIGHEST  BEING FOR THAT UPDATED ULDC  SCENARIO. SO THE MODEL WHICH  WE WILL DEMO SHORTLY HAS A  SERIES OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT  WHEN LINKED TO THE DEVELOPMENT  SCENARIO. CALIBRATE THE FISCAL  IMPACT SO THIS SLIDE HERE IS  JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THOSE  ASSUMPTION BY RESIDENTIAL AND  NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TYPE.  SO BOTH MARKET VALUES AND THEN  PEOPLE PER HOUSEHOLD AS WELL  AS EMPLOYMENT KIND OF QUANTITY  OF SPACE DEVELOPED FOR THAT  COMMERCIAL SPACE. SO ACROSS  SCENARIO SIGNIFICANT REVENUE  IS GENERATED FOR THE AND CHART  SHOWS THE REVENUE GENERATED  FOR THE CITY BY DEVELOPMENT  SCENARIO AGAINST THE CITY'S  CURRENTLY PROJECTED HAPPENING  NOW. SO THAT DASHED BLUE LINE  THAT YOU'LL SEE THERE. THOSE  ARE THE EXISTING PROTECTIONS  AND THE CITY PROJECT, THEIR  REVENUES OUT TO 2029. AND SO  WE'VE USED FROM 2029 TO THE  END OF OUR PROJECTION PERIOD  IN 2055. THE COMPOUND ANNUAL  GROWTH RATE TO EXTEND THOSE  AND THEN WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS  WHAT THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE  WERE THOSE DEVELOPMENT  SCENARIOS TOO THE UNDERTAKE  WHERE  THAT LAND THE CITY IN TERMS OF  REVENUE. THE TABLE PRESENTED  HERE SHOWS A MORE  COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF THE  FISCAL IMPACTS BY DEVELOPMENT  SCENARIO IN 2035, SO WITH 10  YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT UNDER  WAY. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN  THAT FISCAL IMPACT IS STRONGLY  POSITIVE ACROSS DEVELOPMENT  SCENARIOS WITH THAT POSITIVE  IMPACT MOST PRONOUNCED FOR THE  UPDATED ULDC SCENARIOS. AND  THEN ONE IMPORTANT POINT I  WANT TO CALL OUT HERE IS JUST  THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR  YOUR DISTRICT SAID THE FIRE  RESCUE THE ROAD AND DRAINAGE  AND SOLID WASTE DISTRICT. ALL  WILL RECEIVE SIGNIFICANT  ADDITIONAL REVENUE UNDER EACH  DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO.  >> AND WITH THOSE WHO ARE  AUDIO.  >> YOU  >> KNOW SO SO SCARED, THINKING  ALSO IS JUMPING IN THAT I  THINK MALLORY JUST A MESSAGE  THAT SHE FROZE UP ON HER SIDE.  SO I PINCH HIT HERE ON THIS  SLIDE. ARE YOU OKAY FOR YOUR  BACK.  >> SO THE CHAR PRESENTED HERE  SHOWS JUST ADDITIONAL GENERAL  AND DISTRICT FI FUND REVENUES  ON TOP OF THE CURRENTLY  PROJECTED REVENUES AGAIN GROWN  OUT BY THAT COMPOUND ANNUAL  GROWTH RATE TO 2035.  >> AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS  ON. THE CITY ONLY PROJECTS  SOME OF ITS OUT 2029 TO THOSE  INCLUDE THE GENERAL FUND AND  THE DISTRICT THE FUNDS HENCE  KIND OF THE MISMATCH IN SOME  OF THESE REVENUES THAT YOU'LL  SEE FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.  BECAUSE WE WANTED AN APPLES TO  APPLES COMPARISON. SO WE'RE  NOT INCLUDING ALL OF THE  REVENUES THAT WE PROTECTED FOR  THE WHOLE FISCAL IMPACT  ANALYSIS WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT  THE REVENUES THAT THE CITY  INCLUDES IN THEIR CURRENT  PROJECTIONS. WHAT YOU'LL SEE  IS THAT CROSS SCENARIOS  INCREMENTAL REVENUE FROM THE  DEVELOPMENT IS NOW IN EXCESS  OF 70 MILLION ACROSS SCENARIOS  IN 2035. SO FOR OUR PROPERTY  TAXES AND DISTRICT FEE  REVENUES. WE USE DIRECT  ESTIMATION RELY ON PROPERTY  VALUES AND THOSE DISTRICT FEE  SCHEDULES PROVIDED BY THE  CITY. BUT FOR ALL OTHER  BUDGETARY REVENUES AND  EXPENDITURES WE TOOK A PER  CAPITA APPROACH. SO THE PER  CAPITA APPROACH SEEMS THAT  BASED ON FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS  AVAILABLE THAT BEING HERE MOST  RECENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. THE  AVERAGE REVENUE AND  EXPENDITURE GENERATION APPLIES  TO THE DEVELOPMENT BEING  ANALYZED. SO AND EXAMPLE HERE  JUST TO KIND OF SHOW HOW THAT  HOW THAT WORKS IN WOULD BE  THAT YOU HAD 25 MILLION IN  CURRENT REVENUE FROM A SOURCE  THAT DRIVE REVENUE FROM YOUR  POPULATION YOUR FULL TIME  EQUIVALENT EMPLOYMENT BASE AND  YOUR VISITORS THAT MY PLEA TO  $75 IN PER  ♪ CAPITA REVENUES AND NOW USING  THAT ADDITIONAL POPULATION  FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT  EMPLOYMENT BASE AND VISITOR  PROFILE FROM THE NEW  DEVELOPMENT. YOU MIGHT BE  LOOKING AT 4.2 MILLION IN NEW  DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW. SO  THAT'S KIND  ♪ OF AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THAT PER  CAPITA APPROACH WORKS. SO WHY  WHY DO WE LOOK AT IT. ALL THE  VARIOUS. KHAN AND SEPARATELY  AND  >> WHERE WE GO FROM HERE WHAT  AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE  TO. HOW PAY FOR WE'RE PART OF  RESTRUCTURING FOR THE NEEDS  THAT DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH  DRIVE.  >> SO WE START WITH POLICE  HEADQUARTERS WE'VE TALKED  ABOUT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS  FUNDING SCENARIOS AND WHAT THE  OPTIONS, YOU KNOW WHAT THE  OPTIONS COULD BE YOU KNOW,  WE'VE LOOKED AT A COMBINATION  OF GENERAL OBLIGATION ANY USE  OF SALE SURTAX PONCE WE COULD  LOOK AT. FULL SPECTRUM OF  VARIOUS SCENARIOS AND  ALTERNATIVE SCENARIOS THAT  HAVE ALSO BEEN CONSIDERED  STALL TURNED SCENARIOS WOULD  INCLUDE THINGS LIKE. ISSUING  DEBT FINANCE CORPORATION AND  THE CERTIFICATES OF  PARTICIPATION OR LEASED STYLE.  THAT IS APPROPRIATION CREDITS  ON THEIR CAPITAL NEEDS SUCH AS  SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND OTHER  APPROPRIATION TYPE BUDGET  APPROVALS THAT HAPPENED  ANNUALLY AS OPPOSED TO A  LONG-TERM REVENUE. ANOTHER  APPROACH IS THROUGH A  DEVELOPER MODEL WHICH  ESSENTIALLY A PETRI PROJECT  THAT INCLUDES THE FINANCING ON  SO. HAPPY ANSWERING QUESTIONS  ON THE DIFFERENT FUNDING  OPTIONS, BUT THOSE ARE CAUGHT  US OR THE BREATH OF THE  FUNDING OPTIONS THAT WE WE HAD  TALKED 3 PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE'RE  TALKING TO THAT POLICY AND  WITH THE FAILED REFERENDUM ON  THE ISSUANCE OF THAT. THERE IS  SOME ANTICIPATION THAT  REFERENDUMS FUTURE DECISIONS  WILL NEED TO BE MADE ON HOW TO  FUND ITS VARIOUS PROJECTS. FOR  THE SUMMER STATS ON THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS JUST TO GIVE YOU  A SENSE OF THE TOTAL  115 MILLION. WHETHER IT'S  FUNDED WITH HOPS AND GIO. OR  SPLIT OF GEO SALE SURTAX BOMBS  WOULD SOMEWHERE IN 0.4. YOU ON  THE HIGH UP BECAUSE STILL  SURTAX LIMITED TO 15 YEARS AND  SOMETHING MORE THE 7.4 ON THE  LOWER END IF IT WAS DONE  ENTIRELY WHAT SOW. YOU KNOW  MULTIPLE APPROACHES THAT WE  CAN USE. YOU KNOW ALL  INTRUDERS COST THAT'S THE RATE  EFFECTIVE RATE THAT'S PAID ON  THE DEBT. ISSUE TEAM FINANCE  OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS. AND THOSE  STATISTICS ARE SHOT HER. THIS  WILL BE JUST A SIMPLE  STRUCTURE FOR HOW WE WOULD PUT  THE FINANCING IN PLACE. YOU DO  A 30 YEAR BOND ISSUANCE ABOUT  5.9 MILLION A YEAR OVER THE 30  YEARS. 25 MILLION SALE SURTAX  PONCE SUNSETS OVER 15 YEARS  ABOUT 2 AND A HALF MILLION. I  MENTIONED THE RANCH FOR ITEMS  NGO THAT 2 AND A HALF A DROP  TO ABOUT 1.4 1.5 THAT WOULD BE  FOR THE 30 YEARS. SO THERE  WILL BE SOME BUDGET SAVINGS  WITH THAT APPROACH. US A  PICTURE OF THAT DATA JUST TO  SHOW YOU A SENSE AS TO WHAT  THE BUDGET DOLLARS WOULD  FUNDING THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. ALTERNATIVE  FUNDING STRUCTURE CAN BE MADE  THROUGH AVAILABILITY PAYMENTS  OR OTHER. MORE PROJECT SENDING  THAT SERVICE STRUCTURE IN THE  SCENARIO YOU WOULD USE A FIXED  MAKE PAYMENTS AS OPPOSED TO  AND NOT TO EXCEED MILLAGE THAT  WOULD REDUCE OVER TOP SO IDEA  OF A LEVEL THAT IS OF MILEAGE  GOES DOWN OVER TIME. YEAH, IT  WITH WE'LL TURN OF APPROACHES  AMOUNT OF MILEAGE. PRODUCES  MORE REVENUE. THE FUTURE AS  YOUR TAX BASE GROWS. IDEALLY  FUTURE FUNDING SCENARIOS FOR  FUTURE CAPITAL NEEDS. WILL BE  ALLOWED FOR IN YOUR BUDGET  THOSE REVENUES INCREASE, SO AS  THE REVENUES INCREASED THE  MADE ADDITIONAL 4 MILLION. AND  FOR METAL REVENUES BY 2035  WOULD PROVIDE FUNDING PASS A  TO PAY FOR THE ROADS PARKS  TRADED SOLID WASTE THE THINGS  THAT. GOVERNMENT PROVIDES ITS  COMMUNITY. SO THE YELLOW BARS  HERE REPRESENT WHAT THE  PAYMENTS ARE ON FUTURE NEEDS.  AND WHAT OUT THIS THAT SPAWNED  IT. WITH THOSE CAPACITY  DOLLARS. IN SENSE. 750,000  REVENUE PRODUCES ABOUT  10 MILLION. PRESENT VALUE.  HOURS CAN TAKE BACK OVER HERE.  OKAY. LET ME JUST.  >> SHARE SCREEN. HOPEFULLY WE  CAN ALL SEE THIS.  >> LOOKS LIKE YES. SO HE IS  KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE  FISCAL MODEL THAT WE RELY ON  FOR OUR FISCAL IMPACT  CALCULATIONS SO WHAT YOU'RE  LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS AN  INPUT FOR THE UPDATED ULDC  DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE. SO WE  HAVE THIS ANNUAL INPUT FOR  RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THEN OUR  CUMULATIVE RESIDENTIAL  DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN SAME  SITUATION FOR OUR HAVE ANNUAL  DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS  CUMULATIVE MEANT. AND FROM  HERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ALL  LINKED TO SCROLLING DOWN A  BIT. TAXABLE VALUES. SO WE  HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT PER YEAR  IN TERMS OF PHASE AND 42 YEAR  TAX AND THEN WE HAVE THE  ASSIGNMENT WITH THE GROWTH  ASSUMPTION OF ONE 0.5% GROWTH  IN MARKET VALUE PER YEAR. SO  WE USE OUR DEVELOPMENT  SCHEDULE THAT HOOKED UP TO PER  UNIT VALUES IN ORDER TO GET TO  OUR TOTAL MARKET VALUE. AND  THEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT  THE CITY HAS CONCERNS OF  HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND FOR  OUR FOR-SALE UNITS OR OWNER  OCCUPIED OPPOSED TO RENT OR  OCCUPIED UNIT, YOU SEE THAT  70% OF THESE GET A HOMESTEAD  EXEMPTION.  >> YES SCHOOL DISTRICT IMPACTS  CALCULATED WE WON'T BE  DISCUSSING THESE BECAUSE THE  SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AT THE  COUNTY LEVEL RELIEF CITY LEVEL  IMPACT WE ASSUME THAT 70% OF  THOSE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS GET  THIS $50,000 HOMESTEAD  EXEMPTION.  >> AND THEN.  >> WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE THE.  WE TAKE THE MARKET VALUE WE  ASSUME A 95% ASSESSMENT RATIO  MEANING THAT 95% OF THAT  MARKET VALUE IS CAPTURED  THROUGH YOUR TAXABLE ASSESSED  VALUE.  >> AND THEN WE SUBTRACT OUT.  >> GARRETT AGAINST PFM I'M  MALLORY FROZE AGAIN  MOMENTARILY HOPEFULLY SHE'LL  BE A RIGHT BACK IN WITH US.  >> ALL JUST FOR THE TECHNICAL  INTERRUPTION HERE. CHECKING TO  SEE IF THEY CAN SWITCH  COMPUTERS, SO ERIC AND RATHER.  >> THE  >> YOU KNOW I HEAR RIGHT WHEN  SHE WAS GOING THROUGH SHE  MENTIONED 1.5% INCREASE EVERY  YEAR.  >> O PRESIDENTIAL SO THAT WAS  THAT WAS THE PLUG FOR THE  MOLOKAI OKAY. IT'S IT'S A  PRETTY CONSERVATIVE. YES, THE  LATER. ACTUALLY BASED ON WHERE  WHAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING  CORRECT AND AND ADDITIONALLY I  GUESS WELL ENTIRE.  PRESENTATION YOU'VE ESTIMATED.  >> MILLAGE RATE TO STAY AT THE  7.6 7 YET CORRECT FOR PERMIT  BEFORE CASTING PURPOSE WE LEFT  THEM YES TO ANY MILITARY WHERE  WE IT JUST BECAUSE WE REALLY  WOULDN'T HAVE ANY BASIS TO  ADJUST THAT IN THE FUTURE SO  ♪ >> THAT'S CORRECT. FROM A  MODELING PERSPECTIVE WHEN MET  MODELING OUT. WHAT YOU'RE  LOOKING AT HERE IS THE  ♪ UPDATED, YOU SIMON THERE'S 3  DIFFERENT MODELS AS WE HAVE 3  DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. EACH ONE  REALLY RUN SIMILAR WAYS. IN A  WAY AND WHAT WHAT NOW REALLY  WORKING THROUGH HERE IS GOING  THROUGH A REALLY GENERATING  THE REVENUE COMPONENT AND HOW  WE GET TO THOSE FORECASTS  BASED ON THOSE ASSUMPTIONS OF  VALUATION AND THE FORECAST  DEVELOPMENT ON ANNUAL BASIS  GOING FORWARD IN WHAT'S  IMPORTANT TO NOTE ABOUT THAT  IS IS WE'VE DONE OUR FORECAST  WE BUILT OUR RIGHT. BUT WHAT  IS AN UNKNOWN YOU KNOW, WE  DON'T KNOW WITH ANY WAS A  DRAMATIC MOMENT, CERT HE IS  HOW QUICK MARKET ADOPTION OF  THE NEW ULDC CURRENT FUTURE  RIGHT. BUT FROM A PLANNING  PERSPECTIVE YOU YOU CREATED  THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU'VE  HERE REDUCING THE VOLUME OF  SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS THAT ARE  OUT THERE THE SINGLE FAMILY  PLAY THE LOTS CREATING THIS  OTHER OPPORTUNITY. BUT WHAT  YOU DON'T KNOW IS HOW QUICKLY  THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR. SO WHEN  YOU LOOK AT OUR MODELS THOSE  FIRST 10 YEARS. ALL LOOK  RELATIVELY SIMILAR THERE'S  GOING TO BE SOME AMOUNT OF  TIME FOR PEOPLE TO OBSERVE AND  SEE OH WOW WE HAVE THE  OPPORTUNITY DO OTHER THINGS  THE NORTH PART OF  SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS ALL RIGHT  SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME  AMOUNT OF YOU KNOW MARKET.  SURE WORK KNOWLEDGE AND SAY OH  WELL WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES  HERE. NOW WE ALSO HAVE TO  MARRY THAT UP WITH. GETTING  THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN  PLACE TO ALLOW FOR ALL THAT TO  OCCUR. HER AS WELL SO YOU GOT  COUPLE DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS.  SOMEHOW JUMP BACK ON THAT AND  SHE MAY LIVE AGAIN HERE IS  THERE NOW. ON THAT.  >> SURE I'M I'M REALLY GLAD TO  SEE THAT DELAY IN THE ECONOMIC  WE HAVE AS A CITY HAVE JUST  RECENTLY BEGUN PROMOTING  OURSELVES. PUBLICLY AND I  THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A  WHILE TO REALLY GET THE THE  MESSAGE OUT AND ARE  CONSTRAINTS. BUILDING OUT  INFRASTRUCTURE IT IS REALLY  GOING SLOW AS WENT TO SEE THAT  BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE  PAGE 22 I WANT TO MAKE SURE  I'M GRASPING CUT. WHAT THAT  MESSAGE IS THERE. 22 IS IT  THAT EVERY. 750,000. REVENUE  ANNUALLY GENERATES 10 MILLION  DEBT SERVICE DID I GET OF JIM.  >> YEAH THAT'S JUST THE VERY  APPROXIMATE I THE POCKET MATH.  KNOW THAT BACK OF THE SO SO  THAT THAT'S JUST KIND OF A  RULE OF FOR US TO THINK  THROUGH AS WE.  >> IDENTIFIED NEEDS WHETHER  IT'S YOU KNOW 30 MILLION FOR  WATER AND SEWER, JUST KNOW  THAT COULD HAVE AN ANNUAL  IMPACT OF YOU KNOW THE 7.50  TIMES THERESA TO CORSO IT'S  JUST KIND ROLL FROM HEALTH  CARE WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT  THAT  >> AND WITH RESPECT TO THE  MODELING I THAT'S PROBABLY  HOPEFULLY WE'LL COME BACK UP  BUT IF NOT THE MODELS WERE  USING A PER CAPITA METHODOLOGY  THE IDEA WAS TO ONE MODELING  AS MET MY GOING OUT REVENUE  ALSO MODELING OUT ALL THE CITY  COSTS RIGHT WHEN YOU GO DO  THIS THERE ARE COSTS FOR FIRE  AND COST FOR POLICE TO TOW FOR  PARKS AND REC. ALL THAT'S DONE  ON A PER CAPITA BASIS USING  YOUR BUDGETS SO WHEN YOU CAN  LOOK AT THE FORECASTED REVENUE  ALSO UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING  TO BE EXPENDITURES ON THE  OPERATING SIDE. FOR STAFFING  AND AS YOU GROW YOUR CITY  YOU'RE GOING TO GROW YOUR  STAFF TO GROW THOSE THINGS  THAT'S BUILT ON A PER CAPITA  TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, THAT'S  DON FOR AREAS WHERE THERE'S  NOT NECESSARILY PER  METHODOLOGY RESPECT TO CERTAIN  OTHER FEES, ANOTHER SOLID  WASTE OR OTHER ELEMENTS. THOSE  INITIAL RATE STUDY INFORMATION  FOR THIS FIRST BELIEVE 7 TO 10  YEARS THOSE RATES REALLY A  LITTLE AND WERE DRIVEN INTO  THE MODELING SO WE'RE TRYING  TO GET THE BEST ESTIMATES AT  LEAST IN THE SHORT RUN,  INTIALLY RUN OUT AND NOW  YOU'RE REALLY STARTING  FORECASTING FUTURE. OBVIOUSLY  IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT  WHEN LOOKING OUT 30 YEARS. BUT  WE CAN AT LEAST RUNNING OUT TO  SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO  THAT WAS DONE ACROSS ALL 3  SCENARIOS TO REALLY GENERATE  THOSE NEXT FISCAL IMPACTS LOOK  AT THE DIFFERENCE. OBVIOUSLY  WHEN YOU LOOK AT SCENARIOS YOU  CAN SEE PRETTY BIG DELTA'S IN  TERMS OF THE NET FISCAL  IMPACTS WHEN LOOKING AT  HISTORIC ULDC IS VERSUS AN  UPDATED ULDC YOU ASSUMED A  100% MARKET ADOPTION. WHERE IS  YOU HAVE THIS MUCH MORE AND  DIVERSIFIED BASE OF YOUR JUST  GOING TO GENERATE MUCH BIGGER  THAT IMPACT. MEAN  REALISTICALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT  THE NON-RESIDENTIAL SPACE  USUALLY USELESS SERVICES SO  THERE'S USUALLY A BIGGER  FISCAL IMPACT COMMERCIAL  DEVELOPMENT. YEAH NEAL, THE DO  MENTION IS THAT IN 2039  ASSUMED THAT THERE WOULD BE A  NEW INTERCHANGE OVER THEIR  RAINTREE IN THAT AREA. AND  THAT WOULD BE REALLY WHEN YOU  START TO SEE A MUCH BIGGER  JUMP IN INDUSTRIAL TYPE  DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I WAS KIND  OF ERROR THAT AREA WAS  FORECAST SEE MUCH MORE  INDUSTRIAL GROWTH. SO CAPTURE  THAT ON THE BACK END OF THE  MODELS WELL. IN BOTH  SCENARIOS, BUT MORE  DRAMATICALLY THE UPDATED ULDC  MILES. SO. HERE'S A LITTLE  BACKGROUND FOR WHERE WE'RE  HEADING THERE SO THAT THE  MODEL WE JUST WANT TO SHOW THE  DEMONSTRATION TO THE EXTENT WE  COULD SEE. WHEN DOING IT  THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION  THAT GOES INTO THE MODELS TO  GET YOU TO HANDFUL NUMBERS YOU  SEE ON THE SCREEN. THERE'S A  LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO  THAT YOU CAN CHEW THAT  INFORMATION THOSE MODELS  CALIBRATED TO YOUR LOOKS LIKE  IF WE I CAN JUST JUMP TO  ECONOMIC IMPACTS ON THIS NOW  OR IF YOU'RE THERE. AND IF YOU  I AM HERE OK IT WASN'T SURE IF  YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON A FEW  OTHER ITEMS ALL WE'VE GOT YOU.  >> ARE YOU ALL ABLE TO SEE THE  MODEL. I SAID APOLOGIZE. SO  WHAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON IS  JUST KIND OF THIS PER CAPITA  AS YOU CAN SEE BECAUSE OF WHAT  KEVIN YOU KNOW THAT THE THE  POPULATION WILL HAVE MUCH MORE  SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE  ACTUAL REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE  PROFILE. EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE  WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FULL TIME  EQUIVALENT NOT JUST THAT YOU  KNOW 40 HOURS OUT BE A 168  HOURS IN A WEEK. THERE IS MUCH  LESS EMPLOYMENT WHEN WE  COMPARE IT TO THE RESIDENTIAL  THAT WE SEE SO THE POPULATION  WILL HAVE A MUCH MORE  SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THOSE  REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES AS  YOU WOULD EXPECT YOU KNOW YOUR  YOUR POPULATION DOES DRIVE A  LOT MORE OF THE SPENDING ON  THE I MET THE REVENUE  COLLECTION. WE HAVE ASSUMED A  ONE 0.5% GROWTH RATE FOR IS  PER CAPITA REVENUE AND  EXPENDITURE MULTIPLIERS WITH  THE OF THE GROWTH RATES, YOU  IS FOR THE THE ROAD AND  DRAINAGE FIRE RESCUE AND SOLID  WASTE DISTRICT. WE'RE USING  THE GROWTH RATES THOSE  DISTRICT FEES. SO WE WANT TO  MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MATCHING  UP OUR REVENUES TO OUR  EXPENDITURES THERE SO WHATEVER  THAT FEE GROWTH IS OVER THE  FIRST 10 YEARS WHERE APPLYING  THAT FOR THE EXPENDITURES AS  WELL. OUR NET FISCAL IMPACT IN  THIS DOWN HERE. BUT YOU CAN  SEE STRONGLY POSITIVE AND  GROWING YEAR-OVER-YEAR. I  THINK NOW WE WANT WE CAN TURN  IT BACK OVER TO THE EAST BY  CHO AND TALK ABOUT THE  ECONOMIC IMPACT.  >> SO FROM FROM AN ECONOMIC  IMPACT THAT IS NOW YOU MENTION  THE FISCAL IMPACT LOOKING AT  THE IMPACTS OF GROWTH ON YOUR  BUDGET ECONOMIC IMPACTS ARE  LOOKING AT ESTIMATES OF  EMPLOYMENT WAGES AND OVERALL  ECONOMIC OUTPUT. WE HIM PLAN  IS A THIRD-PARTY OF SOFTWARE  PACKAGE THAT REALLY IS KIND OF  THE STANDARD FOR ECONOMIC  IMPACTS LOOKS AT THE DIRECT  EFFECTS, THE INDIRECT EFFECTS  INDUCE THE FACTS. THIS KIND OF  DESCRIBES THE VARIOUS  DIFFERENCES OF THOSE HOW THEY  ADD UP TO THE OVERALL ECONOMIC  IMPACT TO MARKET AND THEN  WE'VE DONE THAT SPECIFICALLY  THE FORECAST OF DEVELOPMENT  OVER THE FIRST 5 YEARS HERE.  THIS IS ALSO JUST SOME  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON HIM  PLANNED LOOKING AT THE VALUE  ADDED IN THE OUTPUT. ALL THESE  ALL THESE WORK TOGETHER TO  CREATE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT. A  FORECAST THAT ARE PUT  TOGETHER. GOING FORWARD. WHAT  WE DID TO TYPICALLY FROM AN  ECONOMIC IMPACT PERSPECTIVE,  YOU VARIOUS DIFFERENT  DIFFERENT ECONOMIC IMPACTS  WHEN YOU HAVE AN CONSTRUCTION  RIGHT CONSTRUCTION IS THE  EMPLOYMENT FOLKS BUILDING THE  FORECAST DEVELOPMENT GOING  FORWARD WE'VE BUILT THAT THAT  ON AN AVERAGE ANNUAL BASIS.  YOU THINK ABOUT ECONOMIC  IMPACTS YOU HAVE TO BE  BUILDING ON RESIDENTIAL SPACE  RESIDENTIAL SPACE. ALSO GOING  TO BE YOU KNOW WE DID FOR ALL  3 SCENARIOS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO  UNDERSTAND ABOUT CONSTRUCTION  ELEMENT IS IS TEMPORARY IN  NATURE. THIS CASE BECAUSE OF  THE NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT  PROGRAM AND SUSTAINED NATURE  OF DEVELOPMENT GOING FORWARD.  IT'S GOING TO KIND OF ALWAYS  BE IN THE BACKGROUND IS MORE  HOUSES ARE BUILT HAVE  CONSTRUCTION WORKERS HERE.  BUT. YOU THINK ABOUT THE  CONCEPT OF HOW THE  CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE  DONE. IF IS A LARGE GROUP OF  FOLKS BUILDING THE DEVELOPMENT  HERE EVENTUALLY THAT  DEVELOPMENT GETS BUILT IN THE  NEXT DEVELOPMENT KITS. IT'S  GOING TO TURN ONLINE. A LOT OF  THE SAME PURPOSE OR ACTUALLY  PROBABLY JUST MOVE ONE PROJECT  TO THE OTHER WHICH REALLY  DOING SUSTAINING CONSTRUCTION  EMPLOYMENT, YOUR ECONOMY GOING  FORWARD. SO FORECAST THAT IN  FORECAST THAT HERE LOOKING AT  AVERAGE ANNUAL EMPLOYMENT.  ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2000  EMPLOYEES AND YOU KNOW 3300  EMPLOYEES GOING FORWARD FOR  THE FIRST 5 YEARS THIS IS  LIKELY TO CONTINUE ON INTO THE  FUTURE GOING FORWARD. AND THAT  AND WE'VE ONLY LOOKED AT THE  FIRST 5 YEARS FOR A COUPLE  DIFFERENT REASONS TRYING TO  FORECAST OUT TO 2055 ECONOMIC  IMPACTS. DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF  SENSE FOR A COUPLE DIFFERENT  REASONS ONE. AND ASSUMING THAT  THE MARKET CONTINUES TO EVOLVE  AND GROW THE ECONOMIC  MULTIPLIER IMPACT MULTIPLIERS  DO CHANGE OVER TIME. IT'S  DEPENDING ON HOW YOUR ECONOMY  DIVERSIFY ITS A LOT OF TIMES  HAVE ECONOMIC IMPACT LEAK IT  RIGHT WHERE. MAYBE THERE'S  INDUSTRY HERE IN NORTH PORTER  SARASOTA COUNTY DOESN'T EXIST  IN A WHOLE LOT OF REALLY FINE  FORM IN OVERTIME THE MARKET  GROWS THAT INDUSTRY MATURES  AND YOU DON'T ACTUALLY LOSE  THAT DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS AND  THEY GO OUT TO NO OTHER  BUSINESSES THAT ARE BEYOND  YOUR BORDERS. THERE'S ACTUALLY  CAPTURED INTERNALLY HAVE A  COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SURROUND  JOB GROWTH.  >> SURE  >> WHAT NUMBERS ARE USING AND  I APOLOGIZE IF YOU COVER THIS  AND I MISSED IT, BUT. LIKE A  BETTER IDEA OF THE NUMBER OF  ARE IN YOUR MODEL AND ALSO THE  TYPES OF JOBS. AND MY CONCERN  WITH THAT IS ALTHOUGH NOT OF  WE WELCOME ABOUT 70 NEW  BUSINESSES A CORNER TO THE  CITY. THE VAST MAJORITY OF  THEM ARE HOME-BASED SO THEY  DON'T REALLY DRIVE JOBS IN  TERMS OF THIS MODEL SO I'M  INTERESTED IF YOU LIVE. SO I  INCORPORATED THAT AS WELL.  >> AND WE HAVE YET TO SEE.  >> A LOT OF COMPANIES LOCATED  HERE REALLY A TRACTOR BRING  HIGHER SO YOU COULD TALK ABOUT  SURE FROM IT FROM THE  CONSTRUCTION IMPACT YOU CAN  THINK THE CONSTRUCTION  EMPLOYMENT THAT SUMMARIZED  TEARS REALLY THINK ABOUT HOME  BUILDERS YOU KNOW YOU HAVE  YOUR TRADE-IN YOU HAVE THOSE  ELEMENTS THOSE ARE HERE.  >> AND THE SHOW CONSTRUCT AND  THEY MOVE OBVIOUSLY MOVE WITH  THE MARKET RIGHT SO THAT'S  WHAT THIS THIS PAGES HERE WHAT  WE HAVE HERE IS THE ONGOING  AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE  YOU'RE GOING WITH YOUR YOUR  ESTIMATES HERE AND WHAT WE DID  HERE IS LOOKED AT THE ECONOMIC  IMPACTS HERE'S ONE THROUGH 5  OF THE VARIOUS FORECAST AND  WHAT REMEMBER IN OUR MODELING  WE HAVE FORECAST IN THE  MOUNTAINS SQUARE FOOTAGE TO BE  BUILT VARIOUS CATEGORIES  RETAIL OFFICE INDUSTRIAL WHAT  WE DO THERE IN THE IMPLANT  MODELING IT'S GOING INTO THOSE  SECTORS LOOKING AT. WHAT ARE  THE AVERAGE WAGES IN RETAIL  RIGHT FOR THE MARKET. SO IT'LL  WILL KIND OF GRAB THAT DATA  FROM THE MARKET FOR THE OFFICE  WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE  AVERAGE OFFICE EMPLOYMENT IN  THE IN THIS MARKET REGGIE  USING SARASOTA COUNTY AS OUR  AS OUR NUMBER BECAUSE NORTH  PORT'S 2 NORTH PORT DOESN'T  HAVE REALLY DEFINED. ECONOMIC  MULTIPLIERS BECAUSE OF THE  RELATIVELY SMALL BASE NOT  RESIDENTIAL SPACE YOU HAVE  HERE IN THE CITY, SO FOR  PURPOSES OF MODELING TO GET  SOME IDEA RELATIVE COMPARISON.  NORTH PORT LOOK A LITTLE BIT  SARASOTA COUNTY JUST BY VIRTUE  OF LOCATION. WE'VE DONE THAT  SO BUT WITH THE MODELS DOING  LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE  LOOKING AT THE VARIOUS KNICKS  SEE THAT THE CODES ARE URGING  WE'VE ASSUMED CERTAIN ONES  THAT HAVE APPLIED TO THE  RETAIL OFFICE HOSPITAL HOTEL.  LIKE ISSUE THERE IS LOOKING AT  WHEN THOSE UNITS COME ONLINE  HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE AND  HOW MANY EMPLOYEES PER SQUARE  FOOT. WE'VE DONE ALL THAT  MODELING IN HERE SO THAT IT'S  REALLY ALL BEING DRIVEN BY THE  MODEL THAT MALIAN PULLED UP  WE'VE DRIVEN THAT AND SO WHAT  YOU'RE LOOKING HERE AT HEAR  FROM A LABOR INCOME OR  EMPLOYMENT STANDPOINT OVER THE  FIRST 5 YEARS. IS THE THE  TOTAL WORKERS AT YOUR 5 SO  ESTIMATING THE FUTURE  EMPLOYMENT GROWTH OUT HERE 5  AND ACROSS THE VARIOUS  DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES AND  THAT'S SOMETHING THEM UP SO  THERE IS A DETAILED BREAKDOWN  WITHIN SOME WE DON'T HAVE THAT  SHOWN HERE BUT WE DO HAVE WILL  BE REPORTING THAT DOCUMENTS TO  YOU. THE FINAL REPORT YOU'LL  SEE THAT DETAIL THE  CATEGORIZATION DOUBLE THAT  DON'T PROVIDE SOME OF THAT  INFORMATION. ONCE AGAIN THE  IMPORTANT PART HERE ALSO IS  THAT YOUR FORECAST. A LOT  THESE ESTIMATES HERE ARE A  FUNCTION OF ADOPTION. HOW  QUICKLY RAMP UP AND NOT  RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AND  DEVELOPMENT OCCURS TO GET TO  THESE FIGURES IT IS THE WILD  RIGHT AND THAT'S THE BEST WE  HAVE BASED ON THE THE CHANGING  VIEW OF THE SEAS BUT YOU CAN  SEE IS THAT. HISTORICALLY  THEY'RE AS YOU WELL KNOW HERE  IN PORT. YOU THE VAST AMOUNT  OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN PORT AND  A PICK UP IN THE MORNING AND  DRIVE. SO WHERE ELSE TO GO TO  WORK. RIGHT AND THAT THE  INTENT IS THAT BY THE CHANGE  IN U.S. YOU'LL THE AS PEOPLE  WAKE UP GET UP AND THEN DRIVE  IN THE NORTH PORT ARE STAYING  REPORTING THAT WE'VE AND THAT  IN FIRST 5 YEARS GOING TO SHOW  THE ESTIMATED EMPLOYMENT OVER  THAT TIME LIKE I SAID IN THE  DETAILED REPORT, YOU'LL SEE  SOME OF BREAKDOWN OF  CATEGORIES HOW THAT WOULD WORK  AND IN TERMS OF THOSE  ESTIMATES GOING FORWARD. YOU  ALSO HAVE IMPACTS FROM NEW  HOUSEHOLD FORMATION. SO ALSO  FROM AN ECONOMIC IMPACTS  STANDPOINT YOU HAVE THE  ONGOING OPERATIONS EMPLOYMENT  JOBS, BUT ALSO WHEN YOU BUILD  A WHOLE NEW RESIDENTIAL  DEVELOPMENT. WHAT YOU'RE DOING  IS BRINGING IN SOME DOLLARS  CAN SPEND THOSE DOLLARS TOMMY.  AND THAT'S WHAT THIS TABLE  REPRESENTS HERE IS THE  ESTIMATED IMPACT OF THAT NEW  DEVELOPMENT AND RESIDENTIAL  AND HAVING BASICALLY LIKE A  BETTER TERM THAT PURCHASING  POWER SHOW UP IN YOUR MARKET  BE ABLE TO SPEND AS WELL. SO  YOU'VE GOT A FEW DIFFERENT  LAYERS OF ACTIVITY THAT ARE  BEING SHOWN HERE CAPTURE ALL  THAT. THIS THIS WAS DONE IN  THE FIRST 5 YEARS BASIS, SO  YOU CAN SEE HERE DEVELOPMENTS  IN AREA ONE HISTORIC.  ESTIMATING 6,166 UNITS. THE  UPDATED ULDC IS WAS 9800 UNITS  SLOWER GROWTH ULDC MODEL IS  ABOUT 7100 UNITS IN A VERY  IMPACT EMPLOYMENT IN THE  ECONOMIC IMPACT FROM JUST  PERSON POWER OF THOSE  HOUSEHOLDS. COMING INTO THE  MARKET. SO WE'VE DONE THAT AS  WELL. SO THAT THAT REALLY  WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO IS  KIND OF GIVE REALLY AN ORDER  OF MAGNITUDE WITH SOME OF  THESE FIGURES KNOWING YOU KNOW  THEY WILL SHIFT OVER TIME THAN  THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THIS.  YOU KNOW AS YOU WELL KNOW.  WE'RE WORKING WITHIN THE  CONSTRUCT CONSTRUCT OF THIS IS  WHAT NORTH PORT LOOKS LIKE  TODAY. IF YOU DO AND ACTUALLY  IF THE CITY GROWS THE NEW  DEVELOPMENT PATTERN MAY SHIFT  A LITTLE AS WELL. SO SOME OF  THE TIMING OF THIS WILL SHIFT  AS WELL I THINK THERE SO LATE  VERY FLUID AND DYNAMIC  SITUATION WITH GROWING CITY  NORTH PORT AND ALSO CHANGING  YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS I HOPE  YOUR MODEL ALSO WHEN WE LOOK  AT THE PURCHASING POWER.  >> OF INCREASES IN POPULATION,  THIS COMMUNITY IS UNDERSERVED  FROM A RETAIL. I KNOW YOU.  AND NORTH PORT RESIDENTS TEND  TO GO ELSEWHERE TO SPEND THEIR  MONEY OUR RETAIL LEAKAGES  LOOKING 780 MILLION A YEAR. SO  IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE  UNDERSTAND THAT IN TERMS OF  ANY MODELING THAT RIGHT.  >> IT FORECASTING FROM AN  ECONOMIC IMPACT STAND FOR  THAT'S WHY WE DON'T REALLY  LOOK AT THAT LET'S FIRST 5  YEARS LIKE I SAID AS THE  MARKET MATURES CHANGES SOME OF  THOSE THAT LEAKAGE COULD  DECREASE IF YOU'RE CAPTURING  MORE NONRESIDENTIAL IT IN IS  THAT THAT IS OPENS THE FLOOR  FOR QUESTIONS OR.  >> WE'LL STICK AROUND FOR A  BIT IF OTHER QUESTIONS COME  UP, YOU KNOW THIS MODEL WAS  DESIGNED TO BE A LIVING,  ALTHOUGH THEY COULD BE UPDATED  CHANGES ARE MADE AS  INFORMATION BECOMES AND THE  FUTURE LANDSCAPE.  >> I WOULD JUST MAKE COMMENT.  I WOULD LOVE TO CLAIM THE  HIGHER REVENUE GROWTH  PROJECTIONS. BUT I'M SORT OF  INCLINED TO GO WITH THE NEW  ULDC BUT LOWER GROWTH  ESTIMATES.  >> PORT HAS BEEN DROPPED BY U  HAUL ONE OF THEIR TOP GROWTH  AREAS, ALTHOUGH THE COUNTY  STILL IDENTIFIED. I THINK  WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE SLOWER  GROWTH. I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN  IDEA OF HOW THAT IS I HAVE MY  BOTTOM OF MY DRIVEWAY ANALYSIS  FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS I  COULD STAND AT THE BOTTOM OF  MY DRIVEWAY AND SEE 5 NEW  HOUSES GOING ON. I DON'T SEE  THAT ANYMORE. BUT I DO SEE TO  HAVE SLOTS HALF-BUILT. THAT  HAVE BEEN STOPPED FOR MONTHS  AND MONTHS AND MONTHS. SO  THAT'S SORT OF MY EMPIRICAL  DATA I WOULD AT SOME POINT  LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OUR PERMITS  FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION ARE  LOOKING LIKE MY GUT TELLS ME  THAT DEPT. I'M A BIT BUT  THAT'S SORT OF OUTSIDE OF  YEAR-ROUND THAT WILL BE A  QUESTION FOR STAFF LATER ON.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH ARE YOU  LOOKING FOR  >> BUT CONSENSUS TO UP TO THIS  REPORT. THIS YOU NEED REGARD  TO THIS PRESENTATION.  >> KNOWS BUT I THINK WE NEED  ADOPT THAT WE JUST WANT TO  MAKE SURE THAT WE DELIVER WHAT  US FOR WHAT WAS NECESSARY. YOU  LOOK AT THIS REPORT AND IT  PROVIDES YOU THAT WHAT WE HOPE  TO BELIEVE SOME FINANCIAL  COMFORT ON WHERE WE'RE GOING  AS A CITY. WE TAKE THIS REPORT  AND YOU COMBINE IT WITH YOU  COMING COMPREHENSIVE LIST  IMPORTANT BILL DO AS WELL AND  YOU'LL SEE HOW THE CITY CAN  BETTER TAKE CARE OF ITSELF AND  THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE  ABOUT HAVE AS WE DRILL NOW,  IT'S JUST US. MEANS I THINK  STATION WOULD HAVE IS GOING TO  BE SPECIFICALLY DRILL DOWN  INTO DIRECTION GIVEN US ON.  THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS IN  INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT THIS RIGHT  HERE SHOULD SHOW AS  COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAY EVEN  WITH THE SLOWER GROWTH MODEL,  A GREAT CONFIDENCE THAT IF WE  WERE TO GET 23 MILLION DOLLARS  IN THIS LOCAL MODEL GOING UP  COMING YEARS IN A WAY THAT CAN  GO A LONG WAY WITH TAKING CARE  OF OURSELVES AND NOT PUTTING  YOUR NEEDS OR ASKED TO THE  TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY. YOU  RECEIVED YOU KNOW WE DO OUR  NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS. HOUSE I  WILL US TO HELP. OR WILL IT  JUST BE A BASIS OF COMPARISON.  WE'RE FRAMING REFERENCE TO  HELP US MAIN THING AND HELP IS  WHEN WE GET INTO LARGE-SCALE  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT  CANNOT BE HANDLED WITH THE NEW  OPERATING BUDGET OR YOUR CIP  BUDGET THAT ONLY HAS SO  CAPACITY WITH IT SO. BEFORE  THIS STUDY AND REPORT THEM  BEFORE THE ULDC WAS  IMPLEMENTED. WE WERE. KIND  PLAYING IT BY YEARS WAS THIS  SHOULD GIVE YOU A BETTER  FOUNDATION TO MAKE BETTER  DECISIONS SO THAT WHEN THOSE  PROJECTS BECOME DO WITH THE  NEEDS ARE THERE. IT WILL TO  PAY FOR THEM SO WE WON'T SAY  EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU NEED  EVERY SINGLE THING WE NEED TO  GO OUT FOR A VOTER REFERENDUM.  HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TAKE  CARE OF MORE OF THOSE EXPENSES  AS WE GROW BECAUSE I BELIEVE  THAT WE WE'RE ABOUT TO GET A  GOOD WAKE-UP CALL WE GET ALL  THE INFORMATION TOGETHER TO  SHOW THAT AS THE CITY GROWS AS  OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HAS NEEDS  AND THINGS NEED OUR ATTENTION  WITH BETTER EQUIPPED TO HANDLE  IT HAS TO CITIGROUP CONTINUES  TO GROW UP. YOU KNOW WE KEEP  TALKING BEING A YOUNG SAID  GROWING NOW RIGHT WE HAVE OUR  OUT TO THE STATE WE ALWAYS  HAVE ALREADY TO THE COUNTY IN  HIS WILL HELP US MORE SELF  RELIANT ON OUR CITIZENS AND  SHOW HOW BOTH CAN PAY GROWTH  WITH ALL THE REPAIRS CITY. ONE  WORK WHICH WOULD BE THE  APPROPRIATE YOU KNOW THIS IS.  IT'S A GREAT TOOL AND  OBVIOUSLY IT'S A YOU KNOW  PROJECTING.  >> FOR THE FIRST 5 YEARS  EASIER TRYING TO LOOK OUT HERE  6 TO 1011 TO 15 AND SO WHAT  KIND OF A I MEAN GOING FORWARD  WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE  TIME FRAME. 4. YOU KNOW WEVE  VISITING THIS AND UPDATING IT  AND MODELING IT FORWARD SO AND  WE 5 YEARS EVERY 3 YEARS 77.  YES FOR  >> FROM UPDATING PERSPECTIVE  WHICH YOU CAN IT'S DESIGNED TO  BE UPDATED REALLY ANNUALLY  WITH UPDATED BUDGETS AND SO  THAT HELPS DRIVE SOME OF THE  REVENUE ESTIMATES IN YOUR IN  YOUR PER CAPITA ESTIMATES IN  TERMS OF EXPENSE TO TRY TO AS  YOUR BUDGET CHANGES. THINGS  CAN CHANGE BUT YOU CAN ALSO  ALSO SEE EACH YEAR. RIGHT NOW  BUILT A FORECAST RIGHT TO GO.  WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET SO  MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND SO  MUCH NON-RESIDENTIAL SQUARE  FEET AND YOUR EX AND THEN IF  THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN LIKE THE  NEXT YEAR YOU GO OK, LET'S  WHERE ARE WE TODAY AND THEN  WHAT WE THINK'S GOING TO  HAPPEN GOING FORWARD WITH AN  UPDATED BUDGET SO ON AND SO  FORTH SO IT'S VERY IT'S IT'S  VERY IT'S BUILT TO BE DYNAMIC  AND WHAT I WAS LOOKING ABILITY  EACH YEAR AS WE COMPLETE  BUDGET CYCLE TO BE ABLE TO SAY  OK BASED YOU KNOW WHAT WE  HAPPENED THE LAST 12 MUCH WE  CAN FACTOR THAT IN.  >> SEE WHAT THE IMPACT THIS  POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE CORRECT.  IT. YEAH YOU CAN ALSO REALLY  LOOK AT FORECAST BASIS RIGHT  LIKE IT IF YOU START TO SEE  INTEREST RATES ARE STUCK TO 7%  THERE ARE NO WORDS OR 8. WE'VE  SEEN RESIDENTIAL DROP WHAT  DOES THAT MEAN RIGHT IT AND  THEN YOU MAY BE REDUCED OR  FORECAST INTO THE FUTURE. THEY  NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE  CONSERVATIVE REALLY UNDERSTAND  WHERE YOU MAY BE FROM THE NET  FISCAL. POSITION. MISTER  ABOUT.  >> IF YOU'RE YOU KNOW YOU  MENTIONED UPDATED ON THIS YOU  KNOW YOU MENTIONED IN THE  YEAR.  >> AS THE YEAR  >> ALL IN ALL.  >> TO  >> WE'RE ACTUALLY ALL THE  PROJECTION. WILL WIN.  >> LOOKING AT A GOOD 2 YEARS  TO SEE.  >> WHOLE SOULS PERCENTAGE  WISE. WE ARE PROJECTIONS.  >> YOU GET FROM A FROM AN  UPDATE PERSPECTIVE, YES. I  THINK FROM A FROM AT LEAST  FROM A FORT LEE IF YOU'RE  LOOKING AT YOUR DEVELOPMENT  PROGRAM AND IN THE FUTURE FROM  A BUDGET ANALYSIS PERSPECTIVE  YOU CAN CHANGE THE INPUTS  USING YOUR LATEST BUDGET  INFORMATION WHICH IS  RECOMMENDED JUST TO SEE WHAT  HAPPENS HERE PER CAPITA  EXPENSES THEY WOULD IF YOU  HAVE A LARGE, YOU KNOW  OPERATIONAL EXPENSES YOU  DIDN'T HAVE IN THE PAST FOR  WHATEVER REASON YOU CAN BUILD  THAT INTO THE MODEL.  IMMEDIATELY AND RUN THAT  THREE-YEAR TO THE PER CAPITA  ANALYSIS THAT'S REALLY THAT'S  REALLY JUST A BUDGET EXERCISE  OF JUST A OF ADJUSTMENT FROM A  FORECAST PERSPECTIVE. YOU  DECIDE TO JUST YOUR FORECAST  AS NEEDED. REASON SUGGEST  MAYBE MAYBE 2 YEAR, MAYBE IT'S  TOO IS REALLY IMPACT IF IF YOU  START TO SEE YOU'RE LOOKING  FOR NEARBY PIER DRIVEWAY IN  THOSE 2 HOUSES HAVE BEEN BUILT  RIGHT, YOU KNOW LIKE HOW MANY  HOUSES ARE GETTING BUILT IN A  IN ARE WE STARTING TO SEE IT.  YOU KNOW SOME TYPE OF DECLINE  THAT COULD IMPACT YOUR BUDGET  BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THE  BUDGET PROBABLY VERY IS GOING  TO BE PREDICATED ON WE'RE  DEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT IS  NOT OCCURRING. WHAT DOES THAT  MEAN AND IN THE FUTURE YOU'RE  NOT GETTING THE RAMP UP THAT  YOU EXPECTED.  >> AND AREA US HAVE HISTORY OF  BOOM BUST, RIGHT YOU LOOK IF  YOU LOOK BACK INTO THE 20 IT  WOULD IF YOU'RE ALL AROUND FOR  THE GREAT RECESSION AND  WHATNOT AND YOU HAD 4,000  HOUSES YEAR AND THEN YOU HAD  200. RIGHT NOW THAT'S PRETTY  NORMAL I. PROBABLY IDEALLY WE  DON'T SEE THAT AGAIN IN OUR  LIFETIME DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T  HAPPEN.  >> SO IT'S JUST THOSE TYPES OF  THINGS YOU JUST NEED TO BE  AWARE OF THAT CAN IMPACT, BUT  YOU'RE COMMISSIONER THAT  WHETHER OR NOT YOU DO IT IN A  YEAR TO PROBABLY DOESN'T  MATTER AS MUCH, BUT AS YOU CAN  THINK THROUGH THE PROCESS,  IT'S EVERY 2 YEARS YOU HAVE  UPDATED CAN REEVALUATE REALLY  JUST TRYING TO BETTER  UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THANK  YOU. MISTER  >> YEAH WHAT'S UP.  >> AND PACKED OF IMPACT.  >> IS IN YOUR ANALYSIS DID  THAT PLAY A PROBABLY FOR THE  NEXT AGENDA TOPIC, I'M KIND OF  LOOKING TO CITY MANAGER. AS I  WAS GOING THROUGH THE SURTAX  LIST AND ALL OF THAT I JUST  KEPT THINKING ABOUT. WHERE OUR  IMPACT FEES, YOU KNOW WE  COUPLE YEARS AGO NOW WE  ADJUSTED OUR IMPACT FEES TO A  MORE CURRENT MODEL.  >> WE IT'S FAIRLY RECENT. SO  WE HAVEN'T BUILT UP A WAR  CHEST AND SOME OF OUR IMPACT  IMPACT THE AREAS BUT.  >> REALLY LIKE TO OUR  UNDERSTANDING.  >> WHY.  >> RIGHT THIS AND PAYING  GROUND I THINK I KNOW SOME OF  THE RATES I R IMPACT FEES  BECAUSE OF HOW CRAZY. THE  ECONOMY AND VALUATIONS AND  THINGS HAVE BEEN OVER THE PAST  2 OR 3 YEARS HAVE WE AGAIN GOT  BEHIND THE 8 BALL IN TERMS OF  IMPACT THE FIRST QUESTION  IMPACT THAT IN THE MODEL UNDER  THE CURRENT RATES THEY'RE NOT  INITIALLY JUST A BECAUSE  IMPACT FEES TO CLEAR STATIC  NUMBER AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO  GOING FORWARD IN THE SHIP SOME  TYPE OF CPI ALLOWS FOR IT.  >> AND TO ENTER YOUR SECOND  QUESTION. ODDS ARE THAT YOUR  CURRENT IMPACT FEES PROBABLY  ARE NOT PAYING FOR A 100% OF  THE COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE  BECAUSE REALLY IN THE LAST 4  YEARS A LOT OF THOSE  INFRASTRUCTURE CASA PROBABLY  CLOSE TO AND UP 50% IF NOT  DOUBLED. I'M SO SO OBVIOUSLY  YOUR IMPACT FEE HAS NOT HAD  THE LUXURY OF OVER SAME PERIOD  OF TIME SO THAT THAT MEDIATES  COULD CREATE DELTA AND WHERE  DIRECTED BY STATE STATUTE IN  TERMS OF HOW QUICKLY AND BY  HOW WE CAN WRITE IN FACT ARE  AND THAT CORRECT.  >> BUT IT IS BUILT IN. YES, I  HAVE QUESTION FOR.  >> COMMISSIONER  >> YOU KNOW WE DON'T GET TO  SPEAK THINGS LIKE THIS SITTING  UP ON THE SAW I HAVE TO ASK  YOU JUST  >> BELIEVE YOUR WORDS WERE  SOMETHING LIKE GROWTH PAY FOR  GROWTH AND YOU SAID YOU HAD  YOU WERE WHAT YOU SHARE YOUR  IDEAS WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S  NOT.  >> WELL ONE OF THE REASONS  IT'S HISTORICALLY AND STAFF  BETTER EQUIPPED THAN I AM TO  ANSWER THIS BUT HISTORICALLY  WITH THUNDER.  >> C'EST IMPACT  >> AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO 2  OR 3 YEARS AGO WE DID A MAJOR  ADJUSTMENT AND BECAUSE OF  STATE STATUTES WE HAD TO  REALLY GO THROUGH THE HOOPS.  AND IT'S A LIMITED YOU HAVE TO  STAGGER IT ALL KINDS OF THINGS  AND. AND I I THINK DIRECTOR OF  DEVELOPMENT CAN BETTER ANSWER  THIS BUT IN MY SIMPLE WAY OF  LOOKING AT IT. IF YOU WANT TO  INCREASE YOUR IMPACT FEES  YOU'RE LIMITED TO ONCE EVERY 5  YEARS AND THIS SORT OF A CAP  ON ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN SO WE  KIND OF GOT HOISTED ON OUR OWN  BUT HARD TO BECAUSE BY THE  TIME WE TOOK A LOOK AT.  ADJUSTING OUR IMPACT FEES SO  THEY DID A BETTER JOB OF  REALLY FUNDING GROWTH ALL  KINDS OF RESTRICTIONS CAME  SOMEWHAT ACCURATE.  >> GOOD MORNING. ALINA RIGHT  DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES YES THAT IS ACCURATE.  WE ARE LIMITED AS TO WHEN AND  HOW MUCH AND THE CAP THAT WE  INCREASE THE IMPACT FEES I  THINK A BIG FACTOR THAT WE  HAVE TO REMEMBER TOO IS THAT  WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP FROM  ABOUT DECADE OF IMPACT FEES  BEING WAIVED OR DRASTICALLY  REDUCED WHEN THE ECONOMY TOOK  A DOWNTURN IN 2006 SO WE WE  DIDN'T. COLLECT THE IMPACT  FEES FOR ABOUT A DECADE OR AT  GREAT PORTION OF THE IMPACT  FEES FOR ABOUT A DECADE.  DEVELOPMENTS STILL OCCUR  DURING THAT TIME  INFRASTRUCTURE WAS NEEDED THAT  DIDN'T GET THAT SO NOW WE ARE.  >> HAVING TO MAKE THAT UP WE  CANNOT BY LAW. REQUIRE NEW  DEVELOPERS COMING IN TO MAKE  UP THE SHORTFALL IN  INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ALREADY  EXISTS WE CAN ONLY.  ♪ >> REQUIRE TO PAY FOR THE  INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS  DIRECTLY RELATED TO THERE'S A  SOME TESTS THAT LEGAL TESTS  RATIONAL PROPORTION HERE I  ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THOSE 2  THINGS A LOT. THEY RELATE TO  THE DIRECT IMPACTS FROM THAT  DEVELOPMENT AND MANY TIMES WE  HEAR YOU KNOW WE THE DEVELOPER  SHOULD PAY FOR. THE  IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE  DONE.  >> IMPORTANT IF THOSE NEEDS  ARE ALREADY THERE. WE CAN ASK  ANY DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR IT SO  IT PUTS US BEHIND THE 8 BALL  ALREADY BECAUSE OF DECISIONS.  OUR ECONOMIC.  >> CONDITIONS OF THE PAST. SO  WE WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT  HOW WE CAN BEST UTILIZE THE  THE ECONOMIC IMPACT GOING  FORWARD TO INCREMENTALLY MAKE  UP FOR SHORTFALL.  >> OKAY, THANK YOU, THANK YOU  KIND OF SURPRISED MYSELF THAT  I ALREADY PRETTY MUCH KNEW THE  ANSWER IT JUST FOR ME, IT'S  JUST. SOMETHING THAT I WISH IT  TO HIGH WIND. THAT IS THE  TEMPERATURE. AS WE GO OUR WAY  BUT WE DO HAVE THE PROPER  IMPACT FEES IN PLACE. THANK  YOU. YOU KNOW ANYBODY.  >> PUBLIC COMMENTS. IS NO.  WANT TO WAS WE MOVE ON TO  GENERAL BUSINESS. WE WANT TO.  ANYBODY NEED  >> I KNOW, BUT I'M SURE  SOMEONE ELSE ABOUT SO LET'S  MOVE FORWARD OF THE GENERAL  BUSINESS 25.  >> YES, 1, 7, 7, 0, DISCUSSION  POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING  REFERENDUM QUESTIONS RELATING  TO BARRING THE 32 STRUCTURE  PROJECTS PORT POLICE  DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS  PROJECT FOR THE 5/13/2025  SPECIAL ELECTION CITY MANAGER  SHRINE.  >> THANK THANK YOU. MISTER  MAYOR, SO I'M GOING WALK YOU  THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION IS  GOING TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION  BASED ON GET ON THE SCREEN  THAT WOULD BE HERE BUT. WE'RE  GOING TO BE UP DATE ON THE  LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT THE  BARN INFORMATION FROM OUR  PARTNERS AND PFM IS INCLUDED  IN HERE AS WELL DEPENDING ON  THE DECISION THAT YOU MAKE ARE  BIDEN'S TEAM GO OTHER WORKS  TEASE. EVERYONE POLICE HAVE  BEEN INVOLVED IN A TEAM  MEETING TO HELP US GET TO THIS  POINT I THINK THAT FOR ALL THE  WORK THEY'VE DONE DO WAS GET  HERE ABOUT TOO MANY PEOPLE  REMEMBER BUT THE GROUP IS  FOCUSED ON MAKING THAT WE TAKE  YOUR DIRECTION AND SHOWING YOU  THE INFORMATION IN PROBABLY TO  2 ASIANS IT. HOW COULD THAT IT  WILL ACHIEVE TO HELP YOU MAKE  A BETTER SAYS DECISION AS WE  GO FORWARD INTO. THE YEAR. SO  YOU MAY PRIOR CITY COMMISSION  DIRECTION ON SOME OF THE 10  WAS DIRECT STAFF TO INCLUDE  REFERENDUM QUESTIONS RELATED  TO BORROW AUTHORITY TO  DESIGNATE IT INFRASTRUCTURE  PROJECTS IN BORROWING  AUTHORITY FOR CONSTRUCTION OF  THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS.  THE REAL WORK SPECIAL ELECTION  IS ONE THAT WE TALKED JUST  REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE COST  OF THE CITY WOULD BE A  $131,000 FOR THAT ELECTION. WE  CAN HAVE IT GOING DO IT BY  DATE OF MAY 13. AS WE  PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THE  INFORMATION REFERENDUM REDUCES  WITH PFIZER ELECTIONS BY  FEBRUARY 17. OF THIS YEAR YOU  HAVE ALREADY READ FIRST OF 2  OF THOSE EMERGENCY BORROWING  AS WELL AS A CHARTER AMENDMENT  REMOVING RESIDENCY  REQUIREMENTS. AND YOU WILL  HAVE YOUR SECOND READINGS ON  THOSE ON JANUARY 28 BECAUSE OF  THAT DAY AND NIGHT MEETING. IS  THAT YOU FOLLOW. BUT WE TAKE  ORDERS HOW WE GOT HERE, I'M  JUST A BRIEF MOMENT LOOKING  BACK TO SAY WHAT WE DO AND WHY  WE DO IT SO THAT HISTORY OF  THE POLICE DEPARTMENT YOU CAN  SEE THIS LINE THAT IN  POPULATION OF 27,000. PEOPLE  WITH 100 NOT POSITIONS WHICH  WAS A POINT TO 3 PERCENT OF  OUR POPULATION. TODAY WE SAID  1000 APPROXIMATELY PEOPLE GET  POSITION WHICH 4 TO 2. THE  GOAL HERE IS TO KEEP THOSE  NUMBERS IN ALIGNMENT WITH EACH  OTHER AS WE GROW WE HAVE TO  MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF  CONTINUES TO GROW AND IF THEY  DON'T HAVE THE SPACE OPEN THAT  IS MOVIES MORE LIKE IT FOR US  NOT TO GROW BACK STAFF AND  THAT'S WHERE SORT OF THE  TROUBLE COMES IT. WE ALL  APPRECIATE OUR GROWTH THAT WE  ALL KNOW PROS AND CONS TO  GROW. BELIEVE I WAS A  POSSIBILITY AS THE CITY WOULD  JUST JUST DISCUSSED AND TALKED  ABOUT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT AS  WE SAID EARLIER, WE DON'T GET  BEHIND BEEN ABLE GET IN. I  THINK THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS  ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL.  QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT WE  PROVIDE WE CANNOT TAKE IT FOR  GRANTED. THIS YEAR SEARCH WILL  SHOW YOU THAT PORT PD  RESPONDED TO 89,892 CALLS IN  2023, BUT FOR THE 14 AND A  HALF PERCENT INCREASE. SHOW  YOU THAT THE VOLUME IS  DICTATING THE NEED. ORIGINAL  PROJECTIONS WERE THAT WE WOULD  HIT 100,000. RESIDENTS BY  2035. WE NOW GET ABOUT 2026.  THE CITY'S ONLY 30% NO DOUBT  THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAD IT  FOR 250,000 IF NOT MORE  RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY  ABOUT 2070. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER  THAT THE MALL THAT YOU CHOSE  AS FAR AS THE FUNDING THAT  WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WILL  HAVE A POLICE HEADQUARTERS  THAT WILL BE BUILT OUT TO  2065, SO THAT MODEL IS IN  ALIGNMENT WITH WHERE THESE  PARTICULAR GOING IN. AS WAS  SAID EARLIER, WE CAN'T PREDICT  THE FUTURE BUT WE DO KNOW THAT  WE ARE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION  BASED ON THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT  WE'RE ALL MAKING. THIS IS A  RENDERING OF THE ACTUAL  STATION ITSELF BUT MORE THAT  WE ARE IN NEED ARE THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT IS SECURING 2  PORTABLES FOR POLICE.  DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR CALLED  COST OF ROUGHLY $800,000 OVER  3 YEARS TO ASSIST WITH SPACE  ISSUES. WE ARE PURSUING A 122  KNOWN MODEL WHICH WILL HAVE A  100 8,000 SQUARE FEET WITH  30,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE.  AS I SAID IT WILL TAKE US  THROUGH 2065. CAPACITY AS WE  KEEP GOING. THE FUNDING THE  QUESTION THAT WE IF YOU BEGIN  DOES EXERCISE OF WHY DID WE  NOT HAVE ANY MONEY. 2 TAKE  CARE OF THIS PROJECT UNTIL NOW  IN THIS LIVE WITH MINOR WE  DIDN'T BUT DIDN'T MAKE TO SIDE  OF THE PROJECT THIS IS A LARGE  SCALE STRUCTURE PROJECT IN  THOSE ARE TYPICALLY SENT OUT  FOR ON TO PAY BACK OVER THE  COURSE OF 2530 40 YEARS. THIS  PROJECT IS NO DIFFERENT BUT.  WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE  HAVE BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE  BEEN ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THIS  PROCESS THROUGH THE PLANNING  OUR FUNDING MOST OF THAT  RELATES BACK TO YOU ARE NOW A  100% DESIGN READY SHOVEL  READY. SO TO SPEAK GOING IS  MISSING IS THE FUNDING POINT  THAT YOU'VE ALSO PURCHASED THE  LAND. PARCELS LOCATED ON  TOLEDO BLADE BOULEVARD FOR THE  HEADQUARTERS. SO WHILE  PROGRESS HAD BEEN MADE WE  STILL HAVE TO THE QUESTION OF  HOW MUCH HE KNEW HOW TO VOTE.  15 MILLION DOLLAR PROPOSAL  THAT THE COMMISSION HAS  DIRECTED TO STAFF. THE  FINANCING OPTIONS HAVE BEEN  DISCUSSED AS DEBT ISSUANCE  SIRTEX REARRANGEMENTS THE  INTERNAL A BUILDING FOR A  CHANCE FOR IN STATE  APPROPRIATIONS. ABOUT THE COST  OF COURSE WOULD BE PAID TO A  VOTER REFERENDUM. AND WE MISS  REALIZE THAT IN ORDER TO GET  THIS BUDGET WE HAVE TO BE ABLE  TO SHOW POINT FOR THE ENTIRE  150 MILLION DOLLARS EVEN IF  SOME OF THESE OTHER FINANCIAL  SOURCES COME IN. AND A LATER  TIME OR ALICIA CHOOSE TO USE  SIRTEX WHICH HAS BEEN  DISCUSSED AS A WAS NOT AS WELL  SO EFFECTIVELY IN DEDICATED  FUNDING SOURCE OF IT SO SO IT  WAS STILL AT THE BUT IT WOULD  NOT COUNT AGAINST THE PISTONS  OR A MILLAGE RATE INCREASE.  FOR THIS IS IMPORTANT MORE  IMPORTANTLY THAN THE  APPROXIMATELY 5 MILLION  DOLLARS. WE'RE GETTING  EVALUATION OF THE APPRAISAL OF  THE BUILDING, I KNOW WHAT IT  IS TRULY WERE IT WILL ALSO  DEPEND ON HOW MUCH OF THE  BUILDING DEPARTMENT NEXT HIGHS  THAT BUILDING AS TO HOW MUCH  OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT CAN  HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COST  OR THE HEADQUARTERS. CITY HALL  NEEDS SPACE. WE OUTGOING  OURSELVES HERE AND JUST  >> THAT'S THAT'S JUST A BY THE  TIME AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW  OUR STAFF CONTINUES TO GROW.  WE HAVE FIGURE HOW DO WE ABOUT  SO SEE HALL STAFF EXPAND ITS  OPEN. THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT  EXPANDED SO TOO. THE CURRENTLY  SAID QUARTER THEN THAT WOULD  FOR US TO USE FUNDING TO  OFFSET THE. QUARTERS. COST AS  WELL. STAY TUNED FOR ASIANS  40 MILLION DOLLARS WE HAVE. WE  SEE GREAT SUPPORT FROM OUR  STATE THANKFUL LISTENING AND I  THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US ON  THIS JOURNEY. GREAT THAT THEY  STATE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS.  GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS THAT  THEY WILL UNDERGO THIS YEAR AS  A DEADLINE OF MORTGAGE IN  ORDER TO APPLY FOR IN THEIR  WORDS COMING OUT THIS SUMMER.  WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT  SINCE OUR PROJECT IS  TECHNICALLY SHOVELED BUT DOES  NOT HAVE THE FUNDING BEHIND IT  THAT WE SECURE THAT FUNDING  MECHANISM BEHIND IT APPROVAL  OF A VOTER REFERENDUM OF OUR  CITIZENS AND THEN REAPPLY NEXT  WINTER AND ABLE TO IN READY  HOPEFULLY RECEIVE A GRANT FROM  THE STATE IN NATURE AS WELL  AND TO BE PERFECTLY  TRANSPARENT STATE HAS ITS OWN  CHALLENGES WHICH WILL COME ITS  A TO NO ONE WE'RE GRATEFUL  THAT THERE'S STILL NO SIGN  THEY STILL WANT TO SEE US GET  THIS PROJECT TO 60 AND I  BELIEVE THAT HAVING THEM ON  OUR SIDE IS GOING TO GET US TO  WHERE WE WANT TO GO FASTER  BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE  ALL VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR  POLICE QUARTERS AND THE GROWTH  THE CITY HAS INCURRED. SURTAX  FOR WAS PROBABLY 25 MILLION  DOLLARS WE ATTACH A  SPREADSHEET WITH THE  INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED  OVER THE WEEKEND THAT WOULD  ALLOW YOU TO SEE SOME OF THE  CHALLENGES OF MOVING MONEY IN  AND OUT OF YEARS IN THE  BALANCING OF THAT IS NOT AN  EASY EXERCISE, BUT IT WOULD  HAVE GIVEN YOU THE CHOICE TO  SAY WELL THESE ARE SOME  PROJECTS THAT I BELIEVE ARE  MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT I  WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD TIES. SO  THAT WE USE SOME OF SURTAX  FUNDING THE ACTUAL. POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. VERY RECENTLY WE  LOOK AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS  THAT TALKING ABOUT NEXT IN MY  OPINION WE MIGHT WANT TO  CONSIDER JUST DOING THE  MILLAGE RATE WITHOUT USING OR  TAX CUTS OR TAX RAIN BUT  PRIORITY OF IT THAT'S PRESENT  SOME PROBLEMS IN SEVERAL  DIFFERENT REASONS AND I KNOW  THAT YOU ALL KNOW THOSE AS WE  TALK ABOUT SOME TIME IN  MICHIGAN BALLOT WHICH PETRO  THERE THAT NEED TO BE. PLAYING  FIELD HERE. BUT I BELIEVE THAT  THEY'VE SEEN OR HEARD SOME OF  THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE  ARRANGING. PRIORITIZING SURTAX  AS WELL IT'S NOT ANY DUE  PROCESS. SO WE WOULD USE THE  ONE TO 15 MILLION ALL THAT'S  NEEDED BASED ON AVERAGE HOME  PRICE OF $246,004. YOU WOULD  SEE YOUR BOTTOM RIGHT HAND  CORNER OF THE BOTTOM OUT WITH  TOTAL OUT TOO A $121 ANNUALLY  OR $0.33 A DAY FOR A TAX. THE  CURRENT TAX PAYER MILLAGE THAT  THE TAXPAYER HAS A 739. ALL OF  THAT 76, SO THIS WOULD BE A  COST TOP OF THAT. IF YOU ONLY  WANTED THE 19 MILLION DOLLARS  WHICH IS THE AMOUNT OF  BORROWING LESS THAN 20 YOU  KNOW IT'S A SURTAX WE'LL BE  LOOKING AT 26 SET APPROXIMATE  AMOUNT FOR YOUR TAXPAYER. NOT  THEIR OF WHICH IS WHAT MADE MY  PRIOR STATEMENT I THINK THAT  BASED ON THE SURTAX AND THE  NEEDS DESIGNED OF THOSE  PROJECTS WHEN THEY WERE  SLOTTED TO BE THINK IT MIGHT  MAKE A LOT OF FOR US TO OUT  HOW DO GET IT WITHOUT  DISTURBING AS AS WE CAN AS  POSSIBLE. SO THIS IS JUST OF  COURSE THE VISUAL OF THAT  $0.33 PER DAY THAT WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT WE'RE NOT  TALKING ABOUT MUCH. BELIEVE  THAT BASED ON THE VALUE  QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WILL BE  ACTUALLY GIVEN TO THE  TAXPAYERS. IT IS NOT  UNREASONABLE APPS. COMMISSION  WE HAVE A OF WHAT THE TAX  PAYER WOULD SEE WHEN THEY SEE  THE ACTUAL AMOUNT WHAT'S IT  DOES WAS IT DOES RECEIVE  APPROVAL FROM IN HIS PAST  YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WHAT WE  HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IT SPECIALLY  AS WE ZOOM IN ON IT WE WILL  SHOW YOU THAT THERE'S A LOT  SIMPLY PUT DEBT SERVICE THAT  THEY WOULD SEE ON THEIR BILL  NOW THE OTHER ONES THAT YOU  SEE ABOVE I OF THE ONES THAT  ARE TYPICAL FOR THEM TO OUR  YOU RIGHT NOW WHETHER IT'S  EVERY KIND SARASOTA COUNTY  REVENUE MOSQUITO HOSPITAL  DISTRICT SCHOOL DISTRICT.  THESE ARE. EVERYONE IS  FAMILIAR WITH IT SO IT WOULD  BE BROKEN OUT IN A SEPARATE  LINE ITEM SO THAT THERE WOULD  BE NO CONFUSION AS TO WHAT IS  BEING PAID IN WHAT'S BEING  PAID BY OUR TAXPAYERS. YEAR  WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THE  115 MILLION DOLLAR GENERAL  OBLIGATION BOND LOOK LIKE  BASED ON YOUR TAXABLE VALUE.  IF YOU LOOK AT THESE THERE  ROUND NUMBERS FOR US FOR SOME  TO CITY ECB $250,000 HOME  WOULD BE VALUE. WE NEED TAXED  AT AN $54 AND BUT THE 56  ANNUALLY YOU LOOK AT HOME YOU  SEE 216, ALTHOUGH 28 SAID KNEW  WOULD HAVE NOWHERE A HOME ON  THE SPECTRUM YOU CAN EASILY  IDENTIFY WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ON  IT OUT OF A MILLAGE INCREASE  WOULD BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR  PROJECT. WE ALL OPPORTUNITY  COST IN WORLD RIGHT NOW IN  LONGER WE WAIT THE MORE IT'S  GOING TO COST. PRICES HAVE NOT  SORT OF SELF CORRECTED  THEMSELVES AFTER THE PANDEMIC  BUT WE KNEW BELIEVE THAT BASED  ON THE 6% INTEREST RATE GROWTH  OF WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING  THAT IF WE WAIT TILL 2030  WHICH IS A PART 5 YEARS. WE'RE  GOING TO HAVE AN INCREASING  COST OF 23 MILLION DOLLARS.  BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO  ACT IN A TIMELY MANNER SO THAT  WE CAN AVOID ANY FUTURE COST  IN THE OPPORTUNITY COST IS  MINIMIZE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.  BALL AWAY, BUT PROJECTS YOU  MAY REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE WENT  UP TO THE REFERENDUM IN  NOVEMBER. WE SAID THAT WE  NEEDED BORROWING AUTHORITY BUT  THE CLARITY CONCEDES AS WELL  AS FAILING INFRASTRUCTURE  PROJECTS SO WE HAVE DEALING  NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS  IN THESE 3 ARE PROJECT THAT  TOTAL APPROXIMATELY.  31 MILLION DOLLARS THEIR SOLID  WASTE AND UTILITY PROJECTS. SO  WE BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD THE  MOST LIKELY FINANCE THE  REVENUE BONDS, SO THAT NOT BE  AN IMPACT ON MILEAGE. BUT THEY  ARE STILL NEEDED IT WE WOULD  NEED TO GET VOTER APPROVAL  ANYWAY. THE FIRST PROJECT IS  THE SOLID WASTE TRANSFER  STATION. IT WOULD BEST FOR US  TO MEET A COST OF 15 MILLION  DOLLARS AND IS THE FUNDING GAP  OF 12 IT HAPPENED IT. IT WILL  HELP US INCREASE OUR  EFFICIENCIES AND REDUCE TRAVEL  TIME VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.  IT WOULD NOT I WILL NEED TO  HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF INCREASE  OUR FLEET SIZE. THIS IS JUST A  TRUE OF OF A CITY THAT WE KEEP  UP WITH. AND AFTER A PROPANE  STATION IN FORCE MEETING THIS  PROJECT WAS ESTIMATED TO COST  3.3 MILLION DOLLARS. WE DON'T  HAVE ANY OF THAT FUNDING. DOES  MEAN RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE  CURRENT PLANS TO BEGIN  CONSTRUCTION IN 2728. SO  GETTING IT APPROVED AND THEN  GETTING THE BOTTOM WITH BILL  PAID BY INTO THAT SCHEDULE TO  MAKE SURE TAKING CARE OF. IT  TOLEDO BLADE BOULEVARD ICE  BULEVAR AREA KNOWING THAT ONE  OF THE HIGHER GROWTH AREAS  THAT WE HAVE IN OUR SHORT TERM  PROJECTIONS FOR THE CITY THAT  AREA IS GOING TO DO NOTHING  BUT KEEP INCREASING ITS SIZE  IS GOING IS NEEDED ACTIVITIES.  THE EFFORT STATIONED THIS BUT  THIS IS CURRENTLY 60% DESIGN.  HAS A POINTING AT 15 MILLION  DOLLARS. AND AGAIN DEBATE IS  REACHING CAPACITY, THIS  PUMPING STATION AND PIPELINES  NEEDED TO SUPPORT FUTURE  DEVELOPMENT. AND DURING THE  WET WEATHER THE BIBLE DOES NOT  MEET THE TREATMENT SO AS WE  SEE THESE 3 PROJECTS ARE ALL  NEEDED TO KEEP UP WITH WHERE  WE'RE AT WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE  AND GRATEFUL THAT SOME OF THE  WHAT CONTROL STRUCTURES AND I  AM THAT WE NEED IN THAT  CAPACITY ARE BEING HELPED OUT  WITH THE SRQ GRANT FUNDING  RIGHT NOW THAT THE COUNTY HAS  AND VERY GRATEFUL TO THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT TOO THE FINEST  CERTAIN PROJECTS IN I BELIEVE  COVER 14 MILLION DOLLARS. SO  WE WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO  MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO  OUTSIDE SOURCES FOR HELP WITH  OUR CONDITIONS. YOU REALLY SEE  YOU AT A PARTNER JUST  PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT EVEN ON THE  CONSERVATIVE GROW SCALE  WRAPPING ANYWHERE UPWARDS OF  25 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR  AND I THINK THAT IS  SIGNIFICANT. IT'S SIGNIFICANT  BECAUSE IT SHOWS AGAIN THAT WE  WANT TO ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT  WE ARE REDUCING THE BURDEN NOT  ONLY THE CURRENT TAX PAYERS,  BUT THE FUTURE TAXPAYERS AS  WELL AND NEED THEIR HELP AS WE  KNEW RIGHT NOW THAT THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS WE ASK THAT  TAXPAYERS AS WELL AS THE  FUTURE TAXPAYERS HELP US OUT  AS WELL. AND ALL THAT BRINGS  IN MONEY TO OUR COMMUNITY AS A  WHOLE AND NOT JUST THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT REVENUE BOOKS  WHICH WILL ALLOW US ALL TO  RISE AT THE SAME TIME AS WE  TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC  BENEFIT BEING NEARLY A BILLION  DOLLARS IN YEARS ONE THROUGH  5. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CAN  SENATE NOT TO WHERE WE ARE  WHERE WE STAND IS A SPECIAL  ELECTION STILL SCHEDULED FOR  YOUR DIRECTION FROM A 20 3020  25 1320 25. THE FIRST 2  QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN  PERFORATED AS WE MENTIONED  EARLIER AND WERE SEEKING  DIRECTION PUTTING THE  115 MILLION ARE NOT A QUESTION  ALL THIS MAY 3RD. ELECTION  REMINDER THE ELECTION WILL  COST US A $131,000 IN THAT  DOESN'T MATTER DO IT IN MAY  AND WAS SUCCESSFUL AND YOU  CHOOSE TO DO IT A LATER HERE.  WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THAT SAME  DIRECTION WE WOULD THEN BRING  ITEMS BACK 3.14 DUE TO BE READ  AT. A LATER DATE. THEY WEIGH  14 WOULD BE FIRST DATE JANUARY  28 BE THE SECOND DAY IF YOU  CHOOSE ADD THOSE TO YOUR  BALLOTS. POOR MADE 38. WE  TALKED ABOUT WHAT VOTER  ENGAGEMENT MAY LOOK LIKE WE'RE  MIGHT LOOK LIKE AS WE MOVE  FORWARD AS WE GET TO THE MAY  13 DATE. WE'RE GOING TO  CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS WITH  LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE  PREVIOUS RESULTS. I BELIEVE  THAT WE ARE SHOWING THAT WE'RE  LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE BY  PIVOTING IN CHANGING THE  QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK AN HOW  FOR. WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPDATE  OUR WEBSITE AND THE CITIES  THAT WILL CONTINUE TO DO AS  MUCH THEY CAN AND SOLICIT  SUPPORT FROM SUPPORTING  ORGANIZATIONS. AND ALSO WE  BELIEVE THAT THIS CITY  COMMISSION WOULD THE VERY  VALUABLE TO THE COMMUNITY BY  OFFERING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR  CITY. COMMISSIONER TOWN HALL  MEETINGS FOR EXAMPLE YOU COULD  HAVE ONE IN THE MORGAN CENTER  WITH YOU NOTICE IT WHEN YOU  PUBLISH ITS ALL 5 OF YOU COULD  BE THERE YOU CAN SPEAK FREELY  CITIZENS COME TO A MICROPHONE  IN A VERY NOT A FORMAL SETTING  SUCH AS YOU KNOW THE CITY HALL  CHAMBERS AND HAVE AN  INTERACTION WITH THE 5 OF YOU  DO YOU BETTER HOW JUST HOW  IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS. I  RECOMMEND HAVING MAYBE LEAST 3  OF THOSE AND WHAT SOME YOU GET  TO MAY TO IT'S A QUESTION THAT  OF COURSE TAKES THAT WILL DO  EVERYTHING WE CAN IN ORDER TO.  ENSURE SUCCESS AS WELL. JUST  AS A REMINDER OF WHAT WE CAN  AND CAN'T DO WE ARE VERY AWARE  OF WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO  WITH ME. PERFORMED AND OUR  EXERCISES WITH THE COMMUNITIES  AND OTHERS OVER THE PAST FEW  MONTHS BEFORE A NOVEMBER BUT  YOU. WE ARE ALLOWED TO ANSWER  IF WE'RE ASKED TO WE CAN ONLY  PROVIDE FACTUAL INFORMATION  AND WE CAN DIRECT CITIZENS TO  OUR WEBSITE AND FACTUAL  INFORMATION. WE CAN ADVERTISE  ABOUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA DIRECT  MAIL E-MAIL OR WE CAN INITIATE  CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE  REFERENDUMS WERE OUT.  QUESTIONS FROM RESIDENTS. AND  WE CANNOT HAVE A ADVOCATE FOR  PEOPLE TO VOTE A CERTAIN WAY.  THE COMMISSIONERS BODY IS NOT  THE SPRING BY THOSE SO WE FEEL  LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE A STRONGER  CHANCE TO VOICE YOUR OPINION,  A BOW. THIS PROJECT AND ITS  AIDS SUCCESS WHICH IS WHY FEEL  BUT THE COMMISSIONERS. MORE  FOR FACING THIS TIME WILL  ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO RECEIVE IT  BETTER THAN OPPOSED TO JUST  HEARING IT FROM STAFF MORE  OFTEN THEY'RE NOT. I OUR  PRESENTATION TO GO I BELIEVE  ALL STOP THEIR AND OUR  TALENTED TEAM IS HERE IN  FORCED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS  THAT YOU MAY HAVE A NORTH A  LOT OF INFORMATION BUT I THINK  THAT PUTTING IT TOGETHER AND  SORT OF HOPEFULLY PAYING THE  PICTURE OF WHAT. WHEN THAT WAS  NOT REALLY SHOWING ANY TIME  FOR TODAY. THANK YOU THANK  >> WHAT WOULD THE PLEASURE OF  THIS WE COULD OPEN UP FOR  SIMPLE QUESTIONS AND  DISCUSSION OR WE COULD TRY  PIECE MEAL LISTEN TO YOU KNOW  WHAT EXAMPLE ARE WE ON THE  SAME PAGE WITH WITH THESE 2  ADDITIONAL ITEMS GOING ON A  REFERENDUM AND MOVED TO  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS  QUESTIONS REGARDING THEM AND  DISCUSSION AND THEN. POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. WE WANT TO DO  PIECEMEAL ALREADY WANT TO JUST  OPEN IT UP. BUT AGAIN THE  PREFERENCES.  >> MY GUT FEEL IS WE JUST OPEN  THAT UP. AS THE THE DIFFERENT  PROJECTS IMPACT THE JOB IT SO  TO TAKE THEM IN ISOLATION  MIGHT CAUSE US TO MAKE  SESSIONS THAT DON'T MAKE WHEN  YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE  ENCHILADA. IT'S GOOD. I DO  WHETHER IT'S I'M GOOD WITH  THAT. I MEAN. WE WANT TO  SPEAK. I HAVE A COUPLE QUICK.  >> QUESTIONS SO ANYBODY WANTS  TO GET IN THE QUEUE HERE SO I  KNOW SHE THINKING WORKSHOP, I  DON'T THINK OF USING THE.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON YOU'RE UP  FIRST.  >> JUST A COUPLE OF NET  QUESTIONS ON THE SOLID WASTE  TRANSFER STATION. IT STATED  THAT NOT BUILDING AND  ADDITIONAL TRANSFER STATION  EAST WOULD THEN REQUIRE  ADDITIONAL STAFF AND EQUIPMENT  AT OUR CURRENT. LOCATION. AND  MY QUESTION IT IF WE DO BUILD  A NEW FACILITY DON'T WE STILL  HAVE TO HIRE. PEOPLE TO STAFF  AT AND EQUIPMENT AROUND THAT.  >> TO SPEAK IS GOING TO COME  DOWN GIVE AND YOU DO THAT. I  HOPE IT WOULD BE NOT AS MUCH  TAP IT. SO THE QUESTION WE THE  PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.  >> SO THE STAFFING THAT WE'RE  SPEAKING OF WE'RE TALKING  ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL STAFF  WITHOUT THAT TRANSFER STATION.  ACTUAL STAFF THAT WILL BE  OPERATING VEHICLES ON THE ROAD  SO WE'RE GETTING TO GETTING TO  THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO  HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF  DRIVERS AND TRUCKS. THAT'S  BECAUSE OF THE EFFICIENCIES  LOSING BY.  >> A REAL SENSE THAT THEY HAVE  TRAVEL IS THAT CORRECT IT'S  WE'RE LOSING 2 TO 3 HOURS A  DAY. HER TRUCK. SO IF WE CAN  KEEP THAT AND HOW KEEP AGAIN  THAT PATIENTS. SO YOU WILL  HAVE TO HIRE SOME STAFF I  THINK WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT 3.  FOR TOPPER TO TRANSFER  STATION. BUT THAT'S  SIGNIFICANTLY LESS AND  EQUIPMENT AND STAFF TO WHAT  YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO KEEP  UP WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY  AND RATHER CHAMBERLAIN. WELL  IN THE RUNNING THEM ALL THE  WAY TOO. THE LAND RIGHT SO THE  LANDFILL IS A PROBLEM. SO  THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO  ELIMINATE AND. ONE TOP OF THAT  YOU HAVE TO WEAR AND TEAR YOU  KNOW UP AND DOWN THE  INTERSTATE.  >> I THINK I HAVE ONE OTHER  ONE. JUST A COMMENT AND WHAT  TRIGGERED IT IS THE MASTER  PUMPING STATION IN FORCE MAIN.  WHEN WE GET INTO SURTAX  PROJECTS AND TALKING A LITTLE  BIT ABOUT. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS  COMMISSION FEELS IS A PRIORITY  TO ON DRESSES. THINGS BACK AND  WAIT. MY OBSERVATION IS THAT  ANY PROJECT THAT. FACILITATE  GROWTH. PARTICULARLY  COMMERCIAL GROWTH.  >> MUST.  >> BECAUSE IF CAN DELIVER  REVENUE NUMBERS IN THE FUTURE.  >> THE WHOLE HOUSE OF CARDS. A  LAB SAYS SO.  >> MOVING FORWARD MY PRIORITY  METRIC IS GOING TO BE THIS  HELP GROW OUR COMMERCIAL BASE  FASTER. AND IF IT DOESN'T IT  QUICKLY FALLS OFF THE PLATE.  >> FOR  >> SO JUST A STATEMENT  INTENTION. ITS  >> AND ONE IN YOUR SLIDES OF  YOUR EARLIER PART AND SAID AND  ADJUSTMENT IN THE MILITARY  COULD COVER THE COST OF THE  PD. WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS THAT  NUMBER JUST YOU KNOW WE'RE AT  3.7 6, 6, 7, WHAT WOULD CRISPY  ON THE AVERAGE $250,000. HOUSE  THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.  >> ALL RIGHT AND YOU THAT THAT  NUMBER IS ON THE SLIDE. I JUST  YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF THE  INCREASE. I KNOW HE'S ASKING  BUT I DON'T WE HAVE A BONUS  MISTER OBAMA WAS LOOKING AT A  100 TONS.  >> SO THAT'S SO THAT A JUROR  YOU'LL SEE IT IF PULL UP THE  SAMPLE TAX BILL EWELL HIGH  WAITED WHERE AT THE BOTTOM OF  THAT BILL FOR THAT 200 ROUGHLY  $200,000 PROPERTY YOU'LL SEE  THE ACTUAL. WITH REGARD TO  THAT PERCENTAGE. YOU KNOW THE  7 POINT.  >> 26 ACCEPT AND YOU'LL SEE  0.6 WEIGHT IF YOU BRING BACK  THAT SLIDE.  >> 6.8. AND YOU'RE TALKING  ABOUT. MAYOR DALEY.  >> WHAT DO KNOW THE ANNUAL  ANNUAL AMOUNT THAT HE'S  REFERRING BACK TO ONE 21. BUT  DOLLARS. BUT THIS QUESTION WAS  ABOUT THE MILLAGE RATE WILL  THE IMPACT THE FIRST COLUMN.  THIS REALLY GREAT IS THE REAL  0.6 28. 415.  >> RIGHT BUT ON THE TAX WHAT  WHAT WAS WAS A BUCKS YEAR COME  I'M TRYING TO COMPARE IF THE  MILLAGE RATE INCREASES HIGHER.  THE BOG. PAYMENT FROM THE  CITIZENS WHO SAID THE BOMBING  WAS GOING TO BE LIKE ONE 21 ON  THE YEAR CORRECT. IF IT WAS  VIA RIGHT RATHER THAN A FALL.  WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER. PER YEAR  ON BURNER. I MEAN WE JUST  SIMPLY THEY'RE GO FOR THEY MAY  HAVE OR A 100% OF THE PROJECT  MOMENT RIGHT THAT'S WHAT I  WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE DEPUTY  WAS SO WE HAVE SO WE KNOW HAVE  LET PEOPLE HAVE OR THEY WILL  HAVE TO READ THAT HEY IF YOU  GO MONEY WE'VE ELECTED GOING  TO BE LIKE.  >> I 1012 YEARS.  ♪ >> RIGHT SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS  GETTING AT IF WE HAD TO RAISE  THE WE DIDN'T COME  ♪ >> UP WITH SURTAX WITH THIS  THIS  >> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THAT  WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU JUST  ANSWER ABOUT BECAUSE. THROUGH  A BOND IS MY STUDIES HERE  THAT'S WHY I WON 21 YEAR AT A  PRETTY MUCH PICK STRAIGHT TO  THE TAXPAYERS. YES, I THINK  ARE GOING DOWN IN THE FUTURE  ACCORDING TO GROSS CHARTS AND  EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED  ABOUT EARLIER.  >> IN THE TIME FRAME THAT IT  WOULD TAKE TO DO THAT WOULD  SORT OF BELOW THIS CURRENT  PRICE. WAY.  >> YEAH, THE LONGER WE WAIT  THE MARK CAUSE I UNDERSTAND MY  OTHER QUESTION WAS ON THE  OTHER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT  SOLID WASTE TRANSFER STATION  CIP PROJECTS YOU WANTED THE  BORROWING AUTHORITY FOR  31 MILLION. LET'S SAY THAT  AUTHORITY CHANGE THROUGH YOU  KNOW, AND WE CAN BORROW THAT  31 MILLION IS THAT A GUARANTEE  THAT THOSE ARE EARMARKED FOR  THESE 3 PROJECTS BE COMPLETED.  YES, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO  CHANGE THOSE PEOPLE JUST WANT  TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE  ADVERTISE SAYING WE WANT TO  GET THIS THIS AND DONE. THIS  IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET  THE BOND MONEY AND THIS  CITIZENS ARE APPROVING THIS.  THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE  IT AND NOT THAT MONEY MOVED  OVER TO SOME I DON'T THINK  LEGALLY YOU CAN DO THAT I JUST  WANT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT'S  ALL I'M SAYING FOR PEOPLE THAT  ARE LESS. YOU KNOW BECAUSE.  SOME PERCEPTIONS ARE UP WE  CHANGED OUR MINDS WHEN WE GO  THROUGH THE BUDGET THE CIP  SHEETS WE MAY TAKE A LITTLE  BIT HERE A LITTLE BIT THERE  JUST. STEP OUT OF THE FUTURE  MAY HAVE TO BUT THAT'S A  BIGGER DISCUSSION TODAY. YES,  >> THAT'S ALL WELL. TRANSFER  STATION AND WILL AND I DO WANT  TO GO ON RIVERS FIRST  TRANSPORTATION. I THINK THAT  SHOULD BE ONE OF PRIORITIES  ARE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO PAY  FOR ITSELF. ANYTHING THAT PAYS  FOR ITSELF. JUST GOT BUT MY  QUESTION I WAS ONE OF THE  SLIDES. 50 MILLION DOLLAR.  NUMBER. WELL THEN OUR SHEETS  SO WHERE WE COULD MAYBE WE'LL  GET UP. THINGS WE WOULD BE  ABLE TO CHANGE ON THE SURTAX  IT WAS AN ROLL. WE'RE GOING  TREAT 2 MILLION. DURING THE  YEARS. 30 TO 34 IS THAT JUST  BUT THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN  THE 4 MILLION 50 MILLION. SO  FOR ME TO JUST GET THE SURTAX  OF ALL. THE BUDGET.  >> ACCORDING WHAT I'M SHOWING  I SHOW THAT IT WAS A OUR CALLS  BUT THE PLENTY AVAILABLE AS TO  WHAT HAPPENED. IT MIGHT BE A  LITTLE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE 2  AND A HALF PERCENT TO  4 MILLION THAT YOU'RE  REFERENCING. DOES ANYONE KNOW  QUICKLY WHAT THOSE NUMBERS  MIGHT. THAT'S BIG PUBLIC WORKS  DIRECTOR CAN  >> CLARIFY YOUR LINEUP. ALL  THE GOOD I LOST ALL LITTLE.  >> I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT  SOMETHING THAT THE  >> COMMISSIONERS  >> GOT THE SHADES THROUGH THE  CITY MANAGER.  >> AND. BASICALLY  >> SOME CERTAINTY BALANCES.  DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS,  DIFFERENT PROJECTS.  >> THINGS THAT WE MIGHT ABLE  TO SOME OF THAT MONEY AND I  JUST KNOWS THAT FOR THE  TRANSFER STATION.  >> IN THE YEARS.  >> 30 TO 34. THE NUMBER WAS.  >> 4.8 3 2 MILLION. GUESS  THAT'S JUST THE. A COUNTY  ANTRIM WELL WEST OF THINK THAT  THAT'S JUST THE SURTAX MONEY  THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE DURING  THOSE YEARS. WE MIGHT BE ABLE  TO OF THAT 50 MILLION DOLLARS  THAT WAS ON THE SQUAD.  >> AMONG JUST TO MAKE SURE  THAT MY ANSWER IS GOING TO  SURE ALL. I SEE IT 4.3 2. IT'S  SO OR SO THE TRANSFER STATION  WITH DISCUSSING OUT OF THE  50 MILLION.  >> THAT IS THE ONE THAT WE  INITIALLY INTENDED KILL AND  27. MONEY THAT YOU'RE SEEING  AND THOSE OUT YEARS OR  BUILDING WELLEN PARK. THAT IS  PART OUR HAVE A HE'S TALKING  ABOUT WE HAVE TO A STRUCTURAL.  AND THAT WOULD A TIME FRAME  FOR THAT THAT WOULD ALSO BE AN  AREA AS AREA GROWS WE'RE GOING  TO STAGE EQUIPMENT. TRUCKS,  THERE AGAIN TO REDUCE SOME OF  THAT TRAFFIC BACK FORTH.  >> IT'S A BIT SO BASICALLY  WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS  THAT'S A DIFFERENT TRANSFER  STEPS TO 2 DIFFERENT GOING  HAVE TO STAND. THANK MY  QUESTION I HAVE FOR FOR  FINANCE THING. THAT'S NUMBER  IS BASED PROPERTY. I WAS LIKE  OVER AND THE. ALL OF THE MONEY  FOR THE POLICE STATION.  INCREASE. THE MILITARY. THAT  PERSON OWNS THAT PROPERTY YOU  WOULD BE PAYING AN EXTRA $121.  IS THAT $121.  >> EACH YEAR.  >> 25 YEAR.  >> A MILE OR IS THAT $121.  WELL YEAH AVERAGE 3% INCREASE  OF ASSESSED VALUATION. OKAY IF  MY WERE ASSESSED SO THIS YEAR  I'M GOING TO PAY AN EXTRA  $121. NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO  $121 3%. OVER THE BABY. I  DON'T KNOW $126.  >> WOULD BEEN TO HOW USE THE  ASSUMPTIONS TO MAKE OUR  DECISION ON THE NUMBER BUT. I  HAVE TO THINK THAT THEY HAD  SOME SORT OF ESCALATE ARE  INVOLVED BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW  THINGS ARE GOING TO. AT DISCO.  >> I WAS A TAXABLE VALUE WE  THINK I FOR THE WHOLE CITY AND  WITH AND WE WOULD NEED 421 FAM  50,000. PROPERTY I PLACE. SO  THAT SECTION 8. I MEAN NOBODY  KEPT THEIR CAP.  >> NO THERE'S NO THE MILLAGE  WOULD BE. DETERMINE BASED ON  WHAT OUR OUR DEBT PAYMENT IS  THAT YEAR.  >> AND THAT IS BASED ON WHAT  THE TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE FOR  THE CITY IT. SO IT WOULD  FLUCTUATE.  >> PROBABLY GO DOWN THE TINY  BEEN EVERY YEAR BUT I.  >> AGAIN IT DEPENDS ON WHAT  YOU DO TO YOUR HOUSE. THIS  THIS $246,000 HOUSE BUILT A  POOL IN A 5 CAR GARAGE AND  YES, HE'S GOING TO GO UP  BECAUSE TAX IS GOING TO GO UP.  BUT IT SHOULD. ALL THINGS  BEING THE SAME AND WITH THE  TAXABLE VALUE OF THE CITY  GOING UP WHICH. YOU CAN'T I'M  NOT GOING PREDICT THAT FOR THE  NEXT 30 YEARS. YES, IT SHOULD  GO DOWN SLIGHTLY EVERY YEAR.  OK THANK YOU THANK YOU. ALL  THE BACKUP.  >> START WITH THE  INFRASTRUCTURE LEAST. NOT TO  SO MUCH FOR MYSELF BUT FOR THE  PUBLIC GENERAL AND I'M ASKING  THIS QUESTION YOU KNOW WE WENT  OUT NOVEMBER WITH A REFERENDUM  THAT SAID WE WANT BORROWING  AUTHORITY. WE ASKED CITIZENS  WOULD YOU GIVE US THE ABILITY  TO BORROW FOR. EMERGENCIES  INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE AND  HEALTH AND. PUBLIC SAFETY  RELATED PROJECTS. SO NOW WE'RE  GOING TO GO BACK OUT AND THAT  FAILED. I ONLY 300 VOTES BUT  FELL SO NOW WE'RE PLANNING ON  GOING BACK OUT HERE IN MAY.  AND WE ARE GOING TO ASK OUR  CITIZENS WHICH WE'VE ALREADY  DIRECTED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD  ON. FOR EMERGENCY FEDERAL  STATE LOCAL. EMERGENCIES ALL  AND NOW. WE HAVE A SENATE  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.  THEY'RE DOT WATER STRUCTURES,  THEY'RE NOT BRIDGES. THEY'RE  NOT IN IMMINENT DANGER OF  COLLAPSING ARE FALLING APART.  SO IF I WAS A CITIZEN I WANT  TO ASK THE QUESTION WHY THESE  3. COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  TOUCHED ON IT THAT THEY VERY  MUCH RELATED TO GROWTH. SO I  LIKE. SOMEBODY STAFF  PREFERABLY I SUPPOSED TO SPEAK  TO. WHY EAST WE ARE SUPPOSED  TO THESE WOMEN IN  INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURES THAT  WE HEARD ABOUT. WHY DO WE NEED  TO DO A COUPLE OF WATER  STRUCTURES LIKE WE ALREADY  HAVE THE MONEY FOR THOSE SEE  MAGIC TOUCHED ON SRQ I THINK  IT'S WORTH. A FEW MORE MINUTES  TO TOOK TO WELL ON PEOPLE  CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS  ISN'T ALL NOW WE WANT TO.  >> YOU KNOW SPEND OUR  TAXPAYERS ON. PAYING FOR  FUTURE GROWTH HERE AND WHY WE  ARE ADDRESSING LIKE YOU KNOW  SOME BRIDGES AND WATER  STRUCTURES THAT SUPPOSEDLY  WERE YOU KNOW, SO CRITICAL.  YOU KNOW HOW DOES THAT WILL  WORK. I KNOW THE ANSWERS SO I  DON'T WANT TO BUY A MASK IN  THIS CASE, I KNOW CITIZENS ARE  GOING TO WONDER WE'RE GOING TO  ASK THESE QUESTIONS WHY YOU  CAN  >> THE MORNING OF  COMMISSIONERS JUST THAT THE  CITY MANAGER.  >> THE THE  >> THE TRANSFER STATION IS  IT'S GOING PAY FOR ITSELF AS A  COMMISSIONER WELL AS AS  COMMUNICATED. WITHOUT THAT ARE  OPERATIONAL GET MORE  EXPONENTIAL AS WE'RE RUNNING 2  TO 3 HOURS UP TO THE TO THAT.  >> AND THEY CAN GIVE YOU ALL  THE NITTY-GRITTY AND ALL THE  INFINITE DETAIL, BUT THAT  REGARDS TO THE A PUMP STATION.  >> DURING MAJOR HURRICANE  ACTIVITY. WE'RE TREATING WATER  BUT WE HAVE NO. WE'RE NOT ABLE  TO GET RID OF IT TREATED  RECLAIMED WATER. CAN'T GET RID  OF IT AND IT UNFORTUNATELY IT  SPELLING OUT SO THE OTHER THAT  IS TO TO PEOPLE ARE KEEPING  DIXWELL SYSTEM AND WE NEED OR  JULY TO ACCOMMODATE SO IT'S  KIND OF A REGULATORY ISSUE.  WE'RE TRYING TO EXPORT OF  THEIR ALL TERMS WITH THE ROUTE  OR AGENCY. BUT AT THE END OF  THE DAY IT'S OUR  RESPONSIBILITY TO DO SOMETHING  WITH EVERYTHING WATER EVEN  THOUGH THERE'S A STORM SO  THAT'S KIND OF THE GIST.  >> AND AS FAR AS THE CONTROL  STRUCTURES. MEAN WE HAD A  PRETTY GOOD TRACK RECORD. SO  FAR GRANTS OTHER VENUE SO  THERE IS NO GRANT REALLY  THAT'S GOING TO COME SAVE THE  DAY FOR THE TRANSFER STATION.  ROLE THERE'S MORE ALTERNATIVES  FROM A GREAT PERSPECTIVE BUT  NOT THERE'S GRANT  OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TREASURE  STATE.  >> AND LET LITTLE MORE  BECAUSE. YOU KNOW WE DID CITY  MANAGER SORT THINGS AND THAT  WAS IF I REMEMBER IN THE  12 MILLION DOLLAR RANGE FOR  THE MYAKKA RICH AND THEY WORK  ADDITIONAL FUNDINGS OF ROUGHLY  WHAT I WANT TO SAY. 1 MILLION  EACH FOR 2 WATER STRUCTURES.  PLUS IN OUR NORMAL DISTRICT.  WE PROVIDE HAVE LITERALLY CELL  FUNDING THEM TO THE TUNE OF  ONE OR 2 PROJECTS A YEAR  RIGHTS SO. AM I CORRECT IN  SAYING THAT THE PIPELINE'S  KIND FEELS FOR THE PERIOD OF  YEARS BECAUSE WHAT'S OUR  CAPACITY IF THEN HIRING  OUTSIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT  STAFFING AND AND RESOURCES. WE  IF YOU WANT THE MONEY COULD  GET 2 3 TIMES. THE NUMBER OF  WATER STRUCTURES OR ALWAYS  SOMEWHAT LIMITED ALL RIGHT  THINGS OTHER THAN THE DOLLARS  AND AND ARE WE BASICALLY GOT  WIND CHILLS FOR THE NEXT 2, 3,  4, YEARS THAT'S WHAT I'M  TRYING TO DO IS GET PEOPLE  COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA THAT  THESE 3 PROJECTS. ALL WHAT  STAFF IS SET. ARE THE 3.  >> USES.  >> ALL  >> THIS OPPORTUNITY. THESE ARE  THE 3 PROJECTS THAT WE GET THE  BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK AS  THE CITY AND I DON'T WANT  PEOPLE TO THINK YOU ALL TALKED  ABOUT THESE RIDGES AND WATERED  STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE  REPLACED AND THAT'S WHY YOU  WANT TO THAT'S GIVES YOU IT'S  ALREADY BUT. YOU KNOW WITH  WITH THIS REPORT THAT SHOW  REVENUE GROWTH. IT AS WE MOVE  FORWARD COUPLED WITH ABILITY  TO MANAGE PLUS THE GRANT  MONIES. AM I CORRECT THAT I  PRETTY GOOD WHICH ALLOWS US TO  DO THESE 3 PROJECTS. YOU KNOW  TO ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION BUT  I THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR  MORE ABOUT THAT I THINK THAT'S  WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT  WONDER WHY ABSOLUTELY WITH  WHAT SO WE WE ALREADY.  >> AS I WANT TO BUILD EACH  YEAR. THAT PLAN HAS HAS  CONTINUED TO MOVE FORWARD  THAT'S FUN GREAT WITH THE  GRANT MONEY AS WE HAVE GIVES  US A COUPLE EXTRA STRUCTURES  TO DO WE PROBABLY COULDN'T  HANDLE MORE THAN 2, STRUCTURES  IN HOUSE THAT'S THAT'S PUSHING  STAFF. FOR ALL THE DESIGN  REVIEW. INSPECTION OF THE  CONSTRUCTIONS SO ONLY ARE WE  GOOD FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS  JUST BASED ON THE GRANT FUNDS  BUT WILL CONTINUE TO SEE GRANT  MONIES HOPE TO FILL THAT IN  THE FUTURE KEEP US YOU KNOW  WORKING AT FULL CAPACITY  PLACE. THE OTHER THING TO  MENTION IS. OR WERE CONTROL  STRUCTURES AND THE SYSTEM IS  BUILT BASED ON THAT EVIDENCE.  I SO. THERE'S STRUCTURES THAT  STIR STEP DOWN TO STRUCTURE.  SO AS IF YOU NOTICE, STARTED  KIND OF WITH OUR MAIN  STRUCTURES THOSE OF THE MOST  IMPORTANT US. THOSE ONES IN  BETWEEN ARE AS A PART OF WE'RE  OPERATION OF OUR SYSTEM THEY  HAVE TO BE THERE TO WORK THERE  A PERMANENT STRUCTURES. WE'RE  GETTING BETTER SHAPE AS WE  REPLACED THE MOST IMPORTANT  FIRST. SO IF WE DO WHAT WE  HAVE ABOUT 2, 3, YOU KNOW  COMING UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE  YEARS THAT'S GOING REALLY  SUBSTANTIAL HELP US AND THE  STRUCTURES THAT WERE THE  GRANTS FOR ARE SOME STRUCTURES  THAT DIFFICULT ACCESS. SO. 3RD  YOU KNOW THE BED SHEET. SO  THIS WILL A GREAT HELP TO US.  BUT RIGHT NOW THE ONE PUBLIC  WORKS I THE TRANSFER STATIONS,  THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TOO.  AS BUT SEE THE MANAGER SAID A  LEVEL THAT'S ALWAYS BECAUSE IF  WE DON'T DO SOMETHING AND  THAT'S COUPLE YEARS WITH THE  GROWTH YOU'RE TRYING TO US. IT  WILL HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO HAVE  AN ASSESSMENT CHRIS IT'S GOING  TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. WE'RE PAGE  BILL. THANK YOU DIRECTOR. AND  THAT LEADS ME TO YOU KNOW MIKE  ADDITIONAL MORE OF A  >> CITY MANAGER TOUCHED  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, YOU  KNOW. THIS FISCAL AND ECONOMIC  IMPACT ANALYSIS. IT IS REALLY  GIVE US A TREMENDOUS COMFORT  LEVEL THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE  WE'RE STARTING TO SEE AND  WE'LL SEE. A GRADUAL INCREASE  IN OUR REVENUES. BASED ON THIS  ULDC REWRITE EVEN IN THE MOST  CONSERVATIVE OF THE SCENARIOS  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, THE  STREET WILL NOT REQUIRE IT.  MILLAGE RATE. ASSESSMENT. THEY  CAN BE PAID FOR. I DO DISTRICT  PRODUCTS AND THING I DO FOR  BASIC OPERATIONS WHICH IS  IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO  KNOW THERE ARE 3 CRITICAL  PROJECTS. I DON'T BELIEVE  UNTIL THIS IMPACT ANALYSIS  CAME OUT. AND AND. YOU KNOW A  VALUATION OF WHAT THIS MEANT  HAPPENED. I THINK YOU KNOW  THERE. YOU KNOW THE STAFF MY  HART HAD BEEN THINKING THAT ON  TOP OF FUNDING A POLICE  HEADQUARTERS WE'D BE LOOKING  AT SOME INCREMENTAL INCREASE  IN MILEAGE RATE HELP SUPPORT  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WELL  AND THAT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE  THE SO THAT'S A REAL POSITIVE  AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW  WE'LL LEARN MORE AS CIP STUDY  COMES OUT HOW WE MODEL THAT  GOING FORWARD YOU KNOW BECAUSE  THAT'LL HELP. IN A A REGULAR  BUDGETING AND IN OUR  ESTABLISHMENT TO WHAT OUR  CAPITAL NEEDS ARE GOING TO  OVER THE YEARS. AND AND AND  HOW THEY MAY BE MITIGATED BY  THIS FISCAL IMPACT SO YOU KNOW  THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING IF  PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO WRAP  THEIR HEADS AROUND WE'RE GOOD  AT. WE'RE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT  ADDING 2 MORE THINGS TO  REFERENDUM. WHAT. 3  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS  SPECIFIC IN FOR BROOKE  INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT  STAFF SHOWN NEED FOR.  >> AND AND AND THAT.  >> WOULD BE CRITICAL IN  HELPING US. IN OUR TO ASSURE  OURSELVES OR HELP ASSURE  OURSELVES THAT.  >> THE.  >> YOU KNOW SOME OF THE  ASSUMPTIONS IN THIS ECONOMIC  IMPACT ANALYSIS CAN BE MET. WE  NEED THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN  ORDER TO BEAT THE GROWTH IN TO  ATTRACT THE KIND GUY BUT IT'S  NOT A QUESTION TAX PAYING  CITIZENS. INCREASE IN MILEAGE  RATE TO DO IT. THEN TAKES US  BACK TO.  >> THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS  AND. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW  I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A STRONG  ADVOCATE OF THE YOU THE STUDY  THAT WAS DONE I BELIEVE THAT  WE SHOULD ALWAYS LEARNED FROM  OUR MISTAKES DEFINITION OF  INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME  THING OVER AND OVER AND  EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT  AND THE REALITY IS WHEN THE  EXISTING COURSE WAS BILL IT  WAS ALREADY OUTGROWN BUT I WE  ALL MOVED INTO WE CAN'T ALLOW  THAT TO HAPPEN. WE'RE ALREADY  CLOSE TO 5 TO 10 YEARS AND IN  GROWTH CURVE AS IT I THINK  IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO IT. YOU  KNOW NOBODY WANTS TO PAY MORE  NOBODY WANTS TO INCREASE THEIR  TAXES BUT ITS PAY ME NOW IT'S  IT'S OR PAY ME A LOT MORE  LATER AND AND AGAIN THIS IS  NOT GOING TO BE A DECISION  THAT COMMISSIONS GOING TO MAKE  IT'S A DECISION THAT OUR  CITIZENS ARE ARE GOING TO MAKE  AND AND IF THEY HAVE ALL THE  INFORMATION BEFORE THEM  HOPEFULLY THEY'LL SEE THAT  THERE'S A VALUE LIGHTING THIS  BULLET AND AND DOING THE RIGHT  THING. CURRENT FASHION AS YOU  COULD SEE COST OF WAITING 5  YEARS. IT'S IT'S SIGNIFICANT.  WHAT I FOUND INTERESTING.  TODAY WAS AS I KEPT GOING  THROUGH THESE NUMBERS AND  AGAIN YOU KNOW WITH THE  HOLIDAYS AND ALL LOT OF THIS  STUFF CAME TO A SLOW WITHIN  THE LAST WEEK OR 2 SO YOU BEAR  WITH US FOR THOSE CITIZENS OUT  THERE WE'RE JUST SEEING SOME  OF THESE THINGS POSTED UP ON  ON ON THE SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW  WE'RE NOT THAT FAR AHEAD SO  WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT'S  WHY THIS A WORKSHOP AND WE'RE  NOT VOTING ON THINGS BUT WHAT  WE ARE TRYING TO GET  DIRECTION. WE WANT TO MAYBE  KICK AROUND SORT OF WHAT CITY  MANAGER MENTION. YOU KNOW IN  INDY. AND WILL REPORTEDLY  GAVE. IT SHOWED US USING.  MILLAGE RATE INCREASE. AS WELL  AS. LOOKING TO SURTAX TO FUND  PART OF THIS. LEE SAID  QUARTERS AND. SHEEP. ROUGHLY  $200,000 ASSESSED PROPERTY.  THE PORTION ALLOCATED TO  SURTAX IS $2.13. A MONTH. OUT  OF $4,000 PROPERTY $4.26. AND  AND WHAT I MEAN IS IF IF ALL  250 MILLION. AND THEN WE PAID  IT BACK WITH A PORTION  PROPERTY TAX INCREASE THAT.  CITIZENS VOTED ON AND ANOTHER  OR SHOULD WAS PAID FOR BY.  SURTAX. THE IMPACTS ON A  COUPLE OF DOLLARS. SO THE  QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO FOOL  WITH THAT WE'VE GOT A LIST A  SURTAX PROJECTS THAT. COUPLE  YEARS AGO WERE VOTED ON BY THE  SYSTEMS GRANTED AS PART OF AN  OVERALL COUNTY REFERENDUM. BUT  THEY WERE PROJECTS THAT WERE  DEEMED IMPORTANT AND WERE PUT  ON A LIST AND. PEOPLE HOPE  THAT THESE PROJECTS WOULD GET  FUNDING. IF WE TAP THAT  SURTAX. IT MEANS DEFERRING  SOME OF THEM. AND REARRANGING  THE PRIORITIES ON SOME OF  THEM. AND THE QUESTION IS.  WHAT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF. I  MEAN $2. $4.6 $1. WOULD IT NOT  MAKE MORE SENSE TO FUND THIS  POLICE HEADQUARTERS YOU  THROUGH MILLAGE RATE  ASSESSMENT THAT THE CITIZENS  VOTED ON. AND YOU KNOW TOO.  BUT LOOK AT IT, I MEAN IT'S.  WE'RE LOOKING AT A $200,000  PROPERTY. WOULD COST $10.42 A  MONTH MORE FOR A CITIZEN  300,000 $15 AND $0.42 IF  YOU'RE THE HALF-MILLION DOLLAR  PROPERTY ASSESSED AT A  MILLION. IF YOU LOOK AT $25.75  A MONTH FOR $300 A YEAR. IT'S  THE REASONABLE NUMBER. ASK FOR  CITIZENS TO PAY. AND NOT TOUCH  SURE PATCH.  >> I DON'T THAT'S 3 OR 4 STAR  BUCKS A MONTH. WHAT DO YOU BUT  WORTHY OF THE DISCUSSIONS.  REMEMBER.  >> WE'RE NOT MAKING THIS  DECISION WORK WILL REALLY NOT  I KNOW SOAP BOX AND I  APOLOGIZE, BUT WE'RE NOT.  VOTE. INCREASE ANYBODY'S TAX  CITIZENS ARE GOING TO WHETHER  OR NOT THEY THINK THIS WORTH  IT. AND YOU KNOW. CONVINCED  THEM OF THE NEED FOR THIS  POLICE HEADQUARTERS THEY'VE  BEEN CONVINCED OF THE NEED FOR  ITS SCOPE ITS SIZE. THE ONLY  QUESTION IS HOW WE PAY FOR.  HOW THEY PAY FOR. FOR A COUPLE  EXTRA DOLLARS TO SEE IT. HEY.  TO MESS WITH THAT WHICH OR DO  WE LEAVE THOSE SHOULD TAX  PROJECTS BECAUSE. THEY WILL  ALL IMPORTANT PROJECTS THEY  WILL HELP. SERVE THE PILLARS  BY WHICH WE BUILD OUR CITIES  BUDGET AND WHICH WE OFFER  SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY SO  YOU KNOW. LEAVE EVERYONE WITH  THAT COMMISSIONER LANGDON YOU  KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT  TO COMMENT ON THAT YOU HAVE  OTHER QUESTIONS BUT.  >> FREE TO GO FOR IT I I THINK  I HAD YOU. BUT YOU LOST ME.  >> LET ME ASK MY SPECIFIC  QUESTION BECAUSE I'VE HAD FOR  A WHILE BECAUSE YOUR COMMENTS  TRIGGERED THAT.  >> CAN WE ASSUME THAT THE  MONEY TO 3.  >> AND STRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT  WE WOULD GO TO A REFERENDUM  ON, BUT ALL BE SERVICED OUT OF  THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS IS THAT A  FACT.  >> UTILITIES PROJECTS WELL WE  HAVE 3 UTILITY PROJECTS  UTILITY ONE IS THAT UTILITY  PROJECTS THAT WOULD  >> YES, NANCY GOING OR UTILITY  STRUCTURE AND THOSE 2  PROJECTS.  >> WOULD COMPLETELY OUT OF  UTILITY.  >> AND THEN IT GOT A PRICE TAG  TO OUR UTILITY COSTS FOR  RESIDENTS BY HOW MUCH.  >> RIGHT NOW THEY'RE FIGURED  INTO OUR RATE ANALYSIS OR  OVERTIME. SO.  >> SO WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING  ANY ADDITIONAL INCREASE LIVE  THE RIGHTS TO TO PROJECT.  >> WE ARE DOING A NEW ANALYSIS  THIS YEAR FOR THE NEXT 3  YEARS. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT  COMES OUT YOU MAY RECALL PAST  YEAR WITH A THEN 30%. IT WAS 2  WAS YEAH THAT'S WITHOUT BEING  ABLE TO BORROW MONEY BECAUSE  CASH ONLY SO. FOR US TO FUND  PROJECTS WITH CASH, IT'S NOT  EVEN  >> IT WOULD BE GOOD.  >> IF THIS COMMISSION WANTS TO  DO COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT WOULD  BE REALLY REALLY GOOD TO HAVE  SOME TALKING POINTS AND SOME  VISUALS DEMONSTRATE SOME OF  THAT SO IF WE GO WITH  BORROWING THIS IS THE IMPACT  OF THE RESIDENTS DON'T GO WITH  BORROWING THIS IS THE IMPACT  OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD BE  EXTREMELY HELPFUL. SO SAME  QUESTION FOR US IT WOULD BE  FUNDED OUT OF. ENTERPRISE  REVENUE AND WHAT WOULD THE  IMPACT ON OUR  >> ALL RIGHT CHUCK SPEAKE  PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR SO WE'RE  NOT IN A PRICE FOR DISTRICT.  SO WE HAVE DISTRICT IT WOULD  BE PAID OUT OF THE DISTRICT  FOR THAT AND WE ARE AS  UTILITIES STORY IN CURRENTLY  WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT TO  LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THAT  EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID IF WE  HAVE TO COME UP WITH THAT ALL  AT ONCE AND PAY AS YOU GO FOR  YOU KNOW AN EXPEDITED FASHION  WITH THAT MONEY OR IF WE WERE  ABLE TO BORROW THAT MONEY AND  PAY IT BACK OVERTURNED. WE'LL  HAVE. HOPEFULLY ARE WE THAT.  YOU KNOW SOON ENOUGH WORLD  WE'LL HAVE SOME NUMBERS TO  BILL SHARE. BECAUSE AS NANCY  IF WE GO WITH THAT IS YOU GO  THAT THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL.  GREECE RIGHT TO MEET TIMELINES  AND A HALF.  >> AND TO HAVE THOSE VISUAL SO  THEY'D BE ENORMOUSLY  FOR WHERE OUR CITY MANAGER AND  I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER BUT  THAT'S SORT OF LIKE IT OUT  THERE. IF THIS COMMISSION  WISHES TO DO COMMUNITY EVENTS.  >> AND ONLY.  >> 3 OUR 4 BUCKS ARE  AVAILABLE.  >> TO DO AN  >> WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT  BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE.  >> AND BET THAT ONE OR MORE OF  YOU AT 10, BUT YOU'RE SPEAKING  IT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE A  COMMISSION MEETING AND IT  NEEDS TO BE NOTICED WORRIED  ABOUT THAT SO I THINK YOUR  QUESTION WAS ABOUT HAVING A  QUARTER OR NOT BECAUSE YOU  SAID HOW MANY DO YOU NEED TO  HAVE  >> ALL 5 OF US OR ONE UP IT'S  A MEETING OF MORE THAN ONE OF  DO COMMISSION RULES SO YOU  WILL HAVE WARN THAT WE HAVE TO  NOTICE THAT AT LEAST 3 OF US  NEED TO SHOW UP MINUTES INTO  THE TAPE GOT ALL THAT AND OF  THINK OF IT THIS WOULD BE  RECORDED IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE  IT WOULD BE SO CITIZENS COULD  BE THERE IN PERSON THEY CAN  STILL WATCH IT BACK ON YOU  TOO. YOU KNOW DIFFERENT THAN  REGULAR COMMISSION WAS GOING  TO DEPEND ON WHERE  >> BELIEVE THAT THAT THAT WE  HAVE.  >> GIVEN OKAY TO DO IT EVEN  THOUGH THEY KNEW THE  CAPABILITIES OF THE VENUE I  DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A VIDEO  RECORDING SYSTEM AT THE MOMENT  THAT WE DO NOT SO YOU WOULD  NOT BE ABLE TO BROADCAST WE  COULD DO IT IN TO 44. HAVE TO  YEAR. 44 SEATING NUMBER COVID  YES, YOU COULD DO IT IN HERE  AS THE REASON MEAN IT IT WAS  JUST TO GET OUT OF THE TYPICAL  STRUCTURE DEALING PEOPLE ABOUT  BEING IN THE CHAMBERS YOU HAVE  ANY WAY YOU WANT COULD WE HAVE  STAFF LOOK INTO THE ABILITY TO  BROADCAST.  >> OTHER THEN YOU KNOW SAY THE  RADIO STATION DOING IT WITH  THE CITY. FACILITATE OUR  ABILITY TO RECORD THAT MEETING  SO CITIZENS WHO COULD MAKE ANY  OF THOSE WORKSHOPS WOULD HAVE  THE ABILITY TO WATCH THEM  BACK. YES, WE GET WORTH IT.  >> RELATED QUESTIONS CITY  CLERK.  >> IF WE RECORDED AND MADE  THAT AVAILABLE ON YOU TOO.  >> I DID NOT HAVE BROADCAST.  CAPABILITY IS THAT IF THEY IN  TERMS OF. SO IF WE TOOK OPEN  TO THE PUBLIC. RECORDED AND  POSTED.  >> DIDN'T BROADCAST IS PEOPLE  NOT REQUIRED TO BROADCAST  THAT'S ABOUT THAT. OK THANK  YOU. THAT'S ME RIGHT NOW  MISTER BELL.  >> LIKE TO COMMISSIONER AND  WE'RE POINT. BORROWING.  150 MILLION. PUTTING IT TAX.  VS USING SOME CERTAIN TAX  MONEY IS. WE UPHOLD PUBLIC ON  THIS. YOU KNOW, I FEEL WE HAVE  TO LOOK WHERE THAT SURTAX  MONEY WOULD COME FOR ALL.  BILAL WORKSHEET YEAR. I WENT  THROUGH SOME. SCENARIOS AND I  CAME UP WITH WELL THINGS WHAT  I TO USE THAT SURTAX MONEY. IF  YOU AND JUST. IT IS AN AREA  WHERE CAUGHT UP ABOUT AND A  HALF BILLION DOLLARS. CERTAIN  MONEY. FOR THE YEARS 20 20  THAT HAD CAUGHT. WAS ABOUT 2.8  MILLION DOLLARS FROM THAT  YOU'LL SEE BROUGHT 30 MILLION  DOLLARS REPLACING PLAYGROUND  EQUIPMENT. AT ABOUT 12 AND A  BILLION DOLLARS. AND WASTE  EXTENSION LOT. AND THAT'S  SOMETHING THAT OF A ROLE FOR  YEARS. THE FIGHT TO WIN IN 2  YEARS. 32 TO 34. BUT IN ORDER  TO 19 OF THE COURT REALLY HAVE  NO SURTAX FUNDS IN THE BAND  SHELL. NO BASKETBALL COURT.  ARE ALL PLACE IN THE MORNING.  FOR THE POLICE TO PAR. DRIVERS  ARE AT IMPROVEMENTS. 3 AND A  BILLION DOLLARS. PROPER PAT.  LIKE A WALKING PATH, 1.1  BILLION DOLLARS. ONE OF  EXTENSIONS AGAIN. BILLION  DOLLARS GETTING INTO YEARS 35  TO 39. MILLION DOLLARS PLAYER  REPLACED MONEY. AGAIN TENSIONS  WATER AND SEWER LINE  EXTENSIONS. DOLLARS ALL ABOUT  THAT. ANGLED PARKING BORDER,  NOT TO MILLION DOLLARS. 238  ARE WELCOME SIGHT. YEARS I  CAME OVER THAT YOU KNOW 15.9  MILLION DOLLARS. OH THERE GOES  WELL. GETTING OUT OF THE  CITIZENS THAT. IN ORDER TO USE  SURTAX MONEY WE'RE GOING TO  HAVE TO CUT SOME THINGS. AND  THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT. SOME OF  THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO GET  CAUGHT SO YOU KNOW MAYBE YOU.  USING. IN ADDITION. WHAT A YOU  KNOW WHAT SOMETHING THAT. ONCE  ALL THE FACTS ARE TOLD PEOPLE  MIGHT LOOK AT AND SAY. LET'S  THAT.  >> JUST BEFORE I RECOGNIZE  COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO YOUR  POINT COMMISSIONER ABOUT. IT'S  INCREMENTAL IF YOU ADD UP  $400,000 ASSESSED PROPERTY  VALUE. IT'S $4 AND $0.26 THAT  WOULD BE THE INCREASE TO THE  MILLAGE RATE  IF DIDN'T HAPPEN SURTAX. WHEN  YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTS YOU  JUST HIGHLIGHTED. IT. IT'S THE  SWOLL FOR 4, NOT US CITIZENS,  BUT FOR US AS WELL WHEN YOU  LOOK AT THE IMPACT THOSE  PROJECTS HAVE ON OUR QUALITY  OF LIFE AND SAFETY AND ALL  SORTS OF. IMPACTS TO THE  VARIOUS PILLARS. YOU KNOW THAT  WE SET PRIORITIES FOR. WE DID  THIS PRIOR TO YOUR COMING ON  THE COMMISSION WHEN WE FIRST  TALKED ABOUT THE QUARTERS. AND  WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY USING  50 MILLION. PRICE SWIPING 2  AND THEN WE SAID WELL WHAT  ELSE COULD WE FIND SURTAX.  >> AND THAT'S FINE 10 MILLION  HERE 20 MILLION THEIR  30 MILLION YOU'RE JUST WHAT  YOU JUST DID. WE DID HEAR HAD  MOST OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS  READY TO PASS OUT AS WELL AS  CITIZENS WHO SAID OH MY GOD  YOU'LL BE CUTTING EVERY. EVERY  AREA OUR CITY IN ORDER TO  BUILD A POLICE HEADQUARTERS  WHEN YOU LOOK AT FOR THE  INCREMENTAL DIFFERENCE. I GOT  TO CONCUR.  >> IF THE ARE COMMITTED TO THE  NEED FOR THIS POLICE  HEADQUARTERS AND FOR THE  BECAUSE BOTH THOSE THINGS MAKE  SENSE TO ME BUT IF THEY MAKE  EVERY BOATING CITIZEN OUT  THERE. THEN AN EXTRA COUPLE OF  DOLLARS. I THINK IT'S SENSIBLE  DECISION AGAIN IT WILL BE  THEIR DECISION TO MAKE THANK  YOU.  >> THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT  THE  >> YEAH I I JUST REALLY WANT  TO. SO THAT THAT STAND WHAT  COMMISSIONER DUVAL SAID.  >> THE LIST PROJECTS THAT WE.  >> PROMOTED BUT THE SURTAX  VOTE WHICH WAS HOW LONG AGO  NOW COUPLE YEARS. 2 NOVEMBER,  23 TO 22 SO COUPLE OF YEARS.  THOSE DECISIONS AND THAT  PROJECT LAST WAS PUT TOGETHER  BEFORE WE REALLY UNDERSTOOD.  >> THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS  AND OUR REVENUE.  >> RESTRICTIONS. WE REALLY  WEREN'T IN TOUCH WITH THE  REALITY LEAST I WON'T SPEAK  FOR MYSELF. I KNOW THIS CITY  HAD SERIOUS FINANCIAL ISSUES  THAT'S WHY I RAN BUT I DON'T  THINK I REALLY GOT AT A  DETAILED LEVEL UNTIL THE PAST  YEAR OR 2. SO TO GO THROUGH  ANY EXERCISE WHERE WE'RE  TALKING WITH OUR RESIDENTS  ABOUT TAX INCREASES.  >> WOULD BE VERY.  >> POLLYANNA ISH.  >> IF WE DIDN'T TAKE A LOOK AT  THIS PROJECT WEST AND HAVE  CONVERSATION ABOUT. WHAT ARE  SOME PROJECTS ON THIS LIST  THAT WE MIGHT FUND A DIFFERENT  WAY. WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS AT  A REALLY NICE TO HAVE AND WE  COULD DELAY. PARTICULARLY OUT  OF THE FIRST 5 YEARS UNTIL  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS AN  OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH OUT. BUT  I REALLY THINK THAT WINDOWS 10  S. I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO  LOOK AT THOSE PROJECTS AND  HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION.  WELL IT WILL BE UNFORTUNATE  FOR ALL OF US IN TALKING WITH  THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT. IT'S A  LOT OF TIMES IT'S THOSE  PROJECTS THAT ARE VERY POPULAR  WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE  REALLY ESSENTIAL TO PUBLIC  HEALTH AND SAFETY. SO WE HAVE  TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS.  TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE  THOSE DECISIONS WERE JUST  GOING INCREASE TAXES THAT IS  NOT A STORY I WANT TO TAKE MAN  THAT DAY. SO I WANT TO  COMMISSIONER DEVAL FOR. FOR  HAVING THE TO LOOK AT THE  SURTAX LIST AND FIGURE OUT  WHAT MIGHT WE DELAY ORPHANED  IN A AND JUST TO GIVE AN  EXAMPLE. AND PARKS AND REC. WE  HAVE GOT TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE  HAVE IS JUST NO QUESTION IN MY  MIND TO DELAY MAINTENANCE AND  ANY DEPARTMENT IS NOT FISCALLY  RESPONSIBLE. HAVING PICKLE  INDOOR PICKLEBALL COURTS. I  KNOW THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY  DON'T LIGHT. THIS COMMUNITY.  PERHAPS WE CAN WORK ON  GETTING. A PROFIT MAKING  COMPANY. 2 BUILD ONE HERE  INSTEAD OF DOING IT OURSELVES.  SO. WHAT I'VE OBSERVED MY TIME  ON THIS COMMISSION IT'S 5 OR  10 YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T DO IT  OURSELVES THAT WASN'T GONNA  HAPPEN. YOU KNOW NO ONE WAS  INTERESTED IN NORTH PORT, NO  ONE LOOKED AT US AND SAID WOW  THIS IS A HAPPENING COMMUNITY,  THEY'RE GROWING BUT THAT'S  CHANGED. SO I THINK IN SOME  AREAS WE NEED TO TAKE A HARD  LOOK AND SAY CAN WE SATISFIED  THIS NEED THROUGH ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT OR ATTRACTING A  PROFIT MAKING ENTITY TO COME  HERE AND DO IT. WE HAVE DOING  IT THROUGH TAX REVENUE AND TO  MAKE SURE TAXES TAX IT'S  HAITIAN FUNDER DISCRETIONARY  HAPPY OUR STRONGEST NEEDS OR  INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'VE GOT  ADDRESS IT. IF WE DON'T IT  IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO GROW IT  POTENTIALLY CAUSES RISK PUBLIC  SAFETY AND HEALTH RISK TO THIS  COMMUNITY. I WAS I SERIOUS, I  DON'T AND ADDRESSING THOSE  NEEDS ARE OUR PRIMARY  RESPONSIBILITY COMMISSION. SO  I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX. WE  REALLY WE'RE GOING TO GO TO  THE COMMUNITY AND ASK FOR TAX  INCREASES AND I WANT TO BE  ABLE TO SAY THESE ARE THE  THINGS THAT WERE DELAYING OR  NEEDS WERE GOING SATISFIED  THROUGH A DIFFERENT WAY. AS  PART OF THAT AND TO JUST SAY  OK, HERE'S THE THAT WE'RE  GOING TO LAND ON YOUR TAXES. I  CAN TELL THAT STORY. MAYBE I  WAS UNCLEAR. THE QUESTION IS  IT'S NOT.  >> BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL  CONCUR THAT SURTAX LIST OF  PROJECTS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED  PRIOR TO THE REFERENDUM, 22  WERE CREATED BASED ON  INFORMATION THAT COMMISSION  HAD AT THAT TIME. WE'VE YET TO  EVEN SEE THE CIP. THAT'S  COMING FORWARD. THE END OF  THIS MONTH. THAT TOOL. COUPLED  WITH THE KNOWLEDGE WE'VE  ACCUMULATED OVER THE LAST FEW  YEARS I THINK WILL HELP US.  TAKE HARD LOOK AT THAT  INFRASTRUCTRE SURTAX LIST AND  DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT ALL  THOSE PROJECTS ARE NEEDED  WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE  REPRIORITIZE WITH SON SHOULD  BE DEFERRED. THE QUESTION AT  HAND DO WE. THE PHOTO OR  POSTPONE OR. KILL ANY OF THE  SURTAX PROJECT TO DEFUND THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS. WE MAKE  THE ASSUMPTION. WE DON'T WANT  TO DO THAT WE DON'T WANT TO  USE OR TAX. TO PAY FOR THIS  POLICE HEADQUARTERS THAT  DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T TAKE  ALL OUR WILL AT OUR SURTAX  TO DETERMINE OUR THING THE  RIGHT AND ARE THEY PRIORITIZED  PROPERLY ARE WE SPENDING THAT  MONEY AT THE RIGHT TIME OR ARE  THERE OTHER WAYS TO FUND  THOSE. BUT. BUT THAT'S THE  SALIENT QUESTION AT THIS POINT  WE NEED TO HAVE THAT QUESTION  BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON  THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS  PROJECT HOW DO WE FUND AND FOR  $2.13. A ON A $200,000  ASSESSED PROPERTY OR $4. IT IS  IN WORTH.  TAKING. WHAT WAS OUT HOW MANY  MILLIONS OF SURTAX 20.  25 MILLION DOLLARS. I HAVE  THAT SURTAX LIST THE BILL THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS. IF WE CAN  FREE UP 25 MILLION DOLLARS  BECAUSE WE CONSIDERED SOME OF  THOSE PROJECTS WEEK OR THE  PHOTO. WIND DOT WE PRIORITIZE  OTHER THINGS INFRASTRUCTURE  NATURE THAT WE NEED. BUT NOT  SPEND IT ON THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS I WOULD THINK YOU  SAID HOW DO I SELL THIS.  PRETTY EASY FOR ME TO SAY ITS  115 MILLION A PRETTY BIG ASK  BUT. TO SAYING WE'RE GOING TO  INCREASE OR YOU TO INCREASE  YOUR PROPERTY TAXES. AND THEN  INSTEAD OF JUST STANDING  ANOTHER 2 TO 5 TO $7 A MONTH.  WE'RE GOING TO TAKE 25 MILLION  DOLLARS WORTH THE SURTAX  PROJECTS AND PAUL WALL WE TAKE  THOSE DOGS OVER TO SAVE YOU A  COUPLE OF DOLLARS. I DON'T  THINK. WOULD BE THE BEST ASKED  I THINK THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE  NOT GOING VOTE FOR THIS.  ALTHOUGH THE VOTE FOR  REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH MONEY.  WE SUGGEST STATE THEY HOPE TO  INCREASE OR TAXES IN EXTRA  THOSE THAT SUPPORTED THE SCOT  TO BELIEVE IN THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS BELIEVE INSIDE  POLICE NEED. 2 TO 5 TO $7 A  MONTH ISN'T GOING TO MAKE THE  DIFFERENCE AND IT ALLOWS. SO  RETAINING THAT SURTAX. THAT  THAT SURTAX FUNDING. WHAT ARE  THE PRIORITIES ARE THAT  SEPARATE ISSUE WHICH I TOTALLY  CONCUR WE SHOULD STUDY AND  LOOKED AT AND I THINK WE WILL  WE SEE CAPITAL THE CIP WHICH  IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO  GO FORWARD INTO THIS NEXT  BUDGET YEAR.  >> WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING  HERE OR THERE. I MEAN DO WE  REALLY.  >> OUT VIEWING TOWER OVER THE  MYAKKA HACHI I MEAN DO WE NEED  THAT WE NEED A BAND SHELL DO  WE NEED PICKLEBALL COURTS.  >> I MEAN THOSE ARE DECISIONS  COMMISSION SHOULD WEIGH IN ON  EVERY YEAR. WHEN WE DO WE'RE  BUDGETING BUT THE QUESTION  RIGHT HERE NOW IS DO WE WANT  TO USE OR TAX TO HELP FUND  THIS POLICE HEADQUARTERS OR  NOT THAT'S A THE DIRECTION I  THINK WE NEED TO GIVE STAFF.  BEFORE THIS WORKSHOPS OVER OR  YOU KNOW MAYBE WE CAN MAKE  THAT DIRECTION YET BUT TO ME I  UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING  THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACT WELL.  >> JUST MY OPINION QUICK IS  LIKE IF WE ARE GOING TO  DISCUSS SURTAX WE HAVE TO GO  THROUGH THE LIST WE HAVE TO  SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT  WERE FIRST OFF TO ALL. AND  THEN IT'S LIKE OK, WE'VE GOT  5 MILLION LEFT OVER THAT'S  WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE OR NOT  USE A THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING  THAT DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW SO.  WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE  NUMBERS ARE GOING TO AND  PHILOSOPHICALLY.  >> DO WE WANT TO DO I TRIED TO  BACK IT UP EVEN MORE THAN THAT  DO WE SHOW US OFFICALLY DO WE  WANT TO DO IT FOR WHAT'S LESS  THAN $10 A MONTH. IN INCREASED  MILEAGE ASK I MEAN YOU KNOW IF  YOU'RE ASKING SOMEONE TO PAY.  ON A $200,000 PROPERTY $10.42  IF THEY COULD IF IT WAS ONLY  $8 WITH THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE  TO THEM WHEN THEY WAIVING  AGAINST. AGAIN STILL WITH US  OR TOUCH PROJECTS THAT WE  WOULD CUT OUT OR MORE AND  THAT'S THE PHILOSOPHICAL  QUESTION I THINK WE'RE AT NOW.  >> JAIL WE SPEND PLENTY OF  TIME JUST WHAT VICE-MAYOR  CENSUS FIGURE OUT.  >> WHAT'S THAT'S PROJECTS WE  NEED TO KEEP ON THAT WHAT WE  MEAN NOT TO WORK WHAT YOU WANT  TO ADD I MEAN OUR PURVIEW BUT.  >> BUT IT. DOESN'T ANSWER THE  BASIC QUESTION. DO WE WANT TO  PAY FOR THIS POLICE  HEADQUARTERS WHICH SHOULD  TOUCH AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE  NEED LOOK AT SPECIFIC PROJECTS  AND SAY WELL WE COULD DO  WITHOUT THOSE SO YEAH, THERE'S  A FEW BUCKS CAN SORT OF POLICE  COURSE IT'S A PHILOSOPHICAL  QUESTION DO WE NEED A SURTAX  TO PAY FOR THE SAME  >> THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M  ASKING WHAT AND WILL LET ME  ASK A RELATED QUESTION AND IF  IT ASKED AND ANSWERED, I  APOLOGIZE THAT FLEW OVER MY  HEAD. BUT IF WE MADE A  DECISION TO TOTALLY. THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS OUT  GENERAL FUND SOME MILLAGE  RATE. WHAT'S THE IMPACT SO IT  90 MILLION THAT'S $0.26. DAY  AT A 115 MILLION. WHICH STILL  GETS 25 MILLION IN SURTAX IS  STILL EMBEDDED IN THAT YOU  >> THAT WOULD BE THE  15 MILLION THAT'S JUST THE  BORROWING AMOUNT OF THE TOTAL  THERE'S NO SURTAX SO THAT'S  ALL RIGHT THE OTHER 9 BILLION  DOLLAR COLUMN REPRESENTS.  >> 90 MILLION THAT WILL BE  BORROWING THROUGH.  >> REGULAR BAR AND SO TO SPEAK  WHICH WE FIND ME A SURTAX TOP  OF THAT TO GET YOU ONE OR 2.  YEAH WHAT 15 AND A $0.33 FROM  THE AVERAGE VALUE THE 2 46 OF  ABOUT  >> THAT'S THE THAT'S YOUR AS  ALL KNOW OKAY, SO SO MY MATH  ON THAT $246,000 HOME IT'S  ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A $120 A  YEAR WHAT WE WANT. AROUND  400,000 IT'S MORE LIKE $247  YEAR OFF WANT TO MAKE SURE I  HAVE THAT. OKAY, BUT THAT'S  BETTER THAN I THOUGHT.  >> BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THAT  JUST SUCH AN INCREMENTAL ONE  NIGHT WHEN CITY MANAGER WE  NEEDED NOW. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE  SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT IN THE  WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE  CONVERSATIONS. WE'RE HAVING  WITH OUR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW  WHAT ARE THEY GRAPPLING WITH  PARTICULAR DECISION. WE NEED A  POLICE HEADQUARTERS. ALL WOULD  SAY THAT'S IT DOES IT NEED TO  BE A 150 MILLION DOLLARS SCOPE  AND SIZE. THOSE 2. QUESTIONS  ANY CITIZEN SHOULD BE ASKING  AND ONE WOULD ALL OUR POLICE.  STAFF OUR POLICE LEADERSHIP.  YOU KNOW KEN HAS BEEN AND IS  CONVINCING PEOPLE OF THE NEED  AND THE SIZE WE'VE HAD THOSE  DISCUSSIONS. BUT THEN IT'S HOW  DO YOU PAY FOR THIS THING AND  IF. IF IF A CITIZEN IS  STRUGGLING WITH AS  COMMISSIONER DUVAL SAID. WHAT  ARE WE GIVING UP.  IN IN ALL THESE OTHER.  PRIORITIES AND ARE OUR PILLARS  QUALITY OF LIFE SAFETY. ALL  SORTS OF THINGS, GOOD  GOVERNANCE YOU NAME IT, HE'S  SACRIFICED US THAT WILL BE  MAKE. FOR AN INCREMENTAL  AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THEN DIE  CITY MANAGER ASKED. WITH THIS  JUST NOT BE MAKING IT THAT  MUCH HARDER FOR OUR CITIZENS.  I SUPPOSE SAYING IT'S JUST A  FEW MORE DOLLARS I BELIEVE IN  THE HEADQUARTERS I BELIEVE IN  THE SIZE OF ALL RIGHT PAY AN  EXTRA $6 A MONTH. AND YOU KNOW  THAT SCENE TO MAKE SOME MAKE  ONE COMMENT BEFORE I GIVE UP  MY FLOOR CAUSE ICY LIGHTS  GOING ON.  >> HAVING HEAR WHAT YOU'RE AND  FOR A LOT OF US.  >> WHETHER WE'RE PAYING ONE 20  YEAR TO 47 YEAR PROBABLY IT'S  YOU KNOW A FEW FEWER STARBUCKS  COFFEE.  >> I'VE BEEN KNOCKING AROUND  THIS COMMUNITY LONG ENOUGH TO  KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF  PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE THAT ANY  INCREASE IS PAYING.  >> SO I THINK FOR US TO ROLL  ON JUST SAYING WE WANT ALL  YEAR YOU ALL PAY FOR WITHOUT  ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO  LOOK AT ALL OF OUR SPENDING.  AND DETERMINING. WHAT COULD BE  CANCELED. WHAT CAN BE DELAYED.  PARTICULARLY OUTSIDE OF THE  NEXT 5 OR 10 YEARS BECAUSE I  THINK WITH THAT ECONOMIC.  ASSESSMENT AND REVENUE  ASSESSMENT. YOU CAN CLEARLY  SEE THAT THE TOUGHEST PART OF  THIS CONVERSATION CERTAINLY IS  THE NEXT 5 YEARS.  >> BUT IT COULD BE 10 YEARS  BEFORE WE REALLY START SEEING  THE BENEFICIAL IMPACT.  >> OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  EFFORTS. TO IGNORE THAT.  >> I THAT DOESN'T SET WITH ME.  >> YOU KNOW FOR ME TO PAY TO  50 A YEAR OR NOT A BIG DEAL.  >> BUT I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT  OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY.  >> THAT. DO OPERATE THAT WAY  OR DON'T FEEL THAT WAY OR  THEIR REALITY IS A BIT  DIFFERENT AND YOU BELIEVE THAT  IF WE SAID TEST YOU ONLY NEED  TO PAY TO 45 INSTEAD OF 2.50  THAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN THEM VOTING, YES OR  NO. MY PERSONAL BELIEF IS. THE  CITIZEN. CAN'T AFFORD TO 45  CAN'T AFFORD TO 50 CAN'T  AFFORD TO 45 GOING TO VOTE NO  ANYWAY. AND IT'S MY QUESTION I  AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR.  >> I THINK TO SELL IT.  >> TO SAY THAT WE HAVE GONE  THROUGH EVERYTHING AND WE'RE  RECOMMENDING CUTS DELAYS ON  THINGS THAT ARE NOT ESSENTIAL.  IT'S A KEY PART SELLING. WELL  >> COMMISSION IS GOING TO SIGN  FOR THE CITIZENS, WHAT  PROJECTS ARE ESSENTIAL IN  SHAW, BUT OUR CITIZENS VOTED  IN 2022 FOR A SURTAX LIST  PROJECTS GRANTED IT WAS PART  OF A COUNTY WIDE REFERENCE  THEM. BUT THERE WERE LISTS OF  PROJECTS ON THAT SURTAX LIST  THAT PEOPLE SUPPORTED LENT  ITSELF TO THEIR VOTING FOR  THAT SIR TAX REFERENDUM,  WHETHER OR NOT IF WE HAD  SWAPPED SOMETHING OUT OR  DROPPED OTHER THINGS WHAT THEY  HAVE VOTED PROBABLY PROBABLY  WOULD VOTE FOR IT.  >> BUT BEING THAT I DOUBT VERY  MANY LOOK AT THAT LIST VERY  POSSIBLY BUT AT SAME TIME YOU  KNOW IF I SAID TO AVERAGE  CITIZEN. IT'S $2 OR $4 A MONTH  GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF  WE DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH ALL THE  SURTAX PROJECTS. I DON'T THINK  THE AVERAGE CITIZEN WOULD CARE  AND I AM GOING TO REFRAIN  PERSONALLY FROM. VERBIAGE  SELLING. YES, BECAUSE I DON'T  INTEND TO SELL THIS TO  ANYBODY. I INTEND TO JUST  CONTINUE TO EDUCATE EVERYBODY  ON EXACTLY WHY. I THINK THIS  MAKES SENSE IN THE WAY IN  WHICH WE'RE PRESENTING IT AND  LET THEM MAKE THEIR DECISIONS.  I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WE IMPACT  SURTAX WITHOUT US THE SIGHTING  WHICH PROJECTS TO KILL AND  WHICH TO KEEP OUT. YES THAT IS  COMMISSIONS. RESPONSIBILITY.  REALISTICALLY A THING WE'RE  GOING TO DO IN LESS THAN 30  DAYS WITHOUT COMMUNITY INPUT.  I THINK WHEN WE HAD A SIX-WEEK  DISCUSSION INITIALLY WHEN THE  POLICE HEADQUARTERS NEED CAME  UP AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT  AREAS OF SURTAX WE MIGHT I  COME UP WITH 20 OR 30 MILLION  DOLLARS SCORES AND YOU KNOW I  WAS AGGRESSIVE AND WE HAVE  DEPARTMENT HEADS GOING INSANE  NOT TO MENTION CITIZENS WHO  SAID YOU WANT TO CALL IT WHAT  YOU WANT TO DO WHAT EVEN PRICE  LIGHTNING TO WHICH I SEE NO  USEFUL LAW. BUT PEOPLE REARED  UP AND GOT AGGRAVATED. I I  CAN'T FOR THE LIFE OF ME  FIGURE HOW IN THE WORLD WE'RE  GOING TO SIT HERE IN 30 DAYS  CHOP. 25 MILLION OUT OF THE  SURTAX FOR $2.13 A MONTH. I  DON'T SEE IT BUT YOU KNOW  AGAIN IT'S THE LITTLE  COMMISSION I JUST I CANNOT  WRAP MY HEAD AROUND I JUST  DON'T. I THINK IT'S. IT PAYS  TO SAY WELL. HERE'S WHAT THIS  POLICE SAY COURSE COSTS NOW  DON'T GET ME WRONG WE'RE GOING  TO OUT FIND GRANTS WE'RE GOING  TO HOPEFULLY PICK UP A DECENT  CHUNK OF MONEY FOR MISSILE AND  WHEN SHE MOVES OVER TO BE  EXISTING POLICE HEADQUARTERS  BUILDING. WE'RE GOING TO FIND  ALL KINDS OF HOPE FOR  OPPORTUNITIES AS THE CITY  GROWS TO HELP PAY THIS DOWN  QUICKER AND MAKE IT YOU KNOW  MUCH MORE ECONOMICALLY PAIN OR  LESS PAINFUL FOR US CITIZENS,  BUT TO CHOP AWAY AT THE SURTAX  LIST. I'M NOT SO SURE AND I  DON'T SEE HOW WE DECIDE THINK  OF A DISTRACTION TO ORIGINAL  ISSUE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY  YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T LIKE  THAT TAKEN AWAY MY BALL FIELD  OR MIGHT I THAT'S YOU KNOW  WHAT I'M VOTE FOR SAYING AT  ALL. I MEAN YOU  >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE AND I  RESPECT YOUR POSITION BUT I  THINK VERY DIFFERENTLY ABOUT  HOW WE NEED TO APPROACH  COMMISSIONER THAT WE ALL  UNDERSTOOD THAT.  >> IN THE INTEREST  TRANSPARENCY.  >> WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.  RATE INCREASE.  >> WHAT IT WOULD MEAN THE  AVERAGE. RESIDENT THAT LIVES  HERE. WE'RE TALKING YOU KNOW  THE AVERAGE. THE WHOLE.  >> AND NUMBER OVERALL DOLLARS  FOR THE AVERAGE HOME.  >> YOU KNOW HAS BEEN ABOUT A  LAW WELL ON THE ONE HAND.  THERE ARE THE MORE HOLES THAT  $10500 $600,000. THEY'RE GOING  PAY MORE. WHAT HASN'T BEEN  MENTIONED IS THAT. I LOVE  PEOPLE AND WANT THEM. I WOULD  NOT SELL YOU ALL. BUT I LIVE  $350,000. I ASSESSED.  VALUATION FOR TAXES. IT IS  MORE LIKE A $116,000. THAT'S  LAWS THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE A  HOMESTEAD. AND FOR THAT ALL  STATE ISSUE. THAT'S $50,000 MY  TAX A BULB ABOUT EVERY YEAR.  AND ALONG WITH LAW. YOU KNOW  SHOULD BE ASSESSED TAXABLE  VALUE CAN ONLY 3% PER YEAR.  WELL I KNOW THE ONLY PERSON  LIVES AND ALSO LIKE THAT IT IS  IN THAT SITUATION. SO YOU KNOW  FOR ME. THAT INCREASE. IN  TAXES DOLLAR WELL. THE GOAL  UNDER 50 MILLION. FOR  BORROWING. MOST OF THEM TO 121  BELL SAY YEAR IT'S MORE OR  MORE IN $8090 RANGE. THERE ARE  A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND  I THINK WE. YOU KNOW DESERVE.  OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSPARENT  WITH PEOPLE AND TELL YES. IT  VOTERS BUT NOT EVERYONE IS  GOING TO PAY UP. IT GIVES  PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK  AT THINGS AND SAY SHE MADE IT  WOULDN'T BE SO BAD FOR ME.  >> THAT'S ALL THE OTHER THING  WOULD SAY IS THERE. IT DAWNED  ON ME THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING  COMMISSIONER, BUT YOU KNOW  CERTAIN TAX. WEVE ALL GOTTEN  COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT  SIR TAXES THERE WHEN WHEN THE  PROJECTIONS WERE DONE IN  22,022 EXPECTED TO CITY  OF NORTH PORT TO BENEFIT TO  THE TUNE ROUGHLY 315 MILLION  DOLLARS OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD.  THAT'S FIRST. SECOND OF THAT  NUMBER THIS PAST YEAR. WHAT'S  GUESSTIMATE CLOSER TO 380 OR  90 MILLION. BUT CONVERSELY AND  ECONOMIC DOWNTURN A SOFTENING  OF THE ECONOMY A SERIES OF  HARWELL STORMS KNOWS WHAT  COULD SERIOUSLY IMPACT. THE  REVENUE STREAM OF SURTAX.  ADDITIONALLY IN CONSIDERING  WHETHER YOU SURTAX OR ACCESS  TO BE AMORTIZED OVER A 15 YEAR  PERIOD. WE CAN'T LOOK AT IT AS  A 30 YEAR. NUMBER BECAUSE IT  EXPIRED WHICH THERE'S NO  GUARANTEES WILL HAVE A SURTAX  5. SO CONSEQUENTLY. FROM FROM  JUST PURELY A AMORTIZATION  STANDPOINT. IT'S FINANCIALLY  COULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO  FINANCE THE ENTIRE ONE 15. YOU  KNOW AGAIN JUST MORE FOOD FOR  THOUGHT ON THE SUBJECT  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> YEAH, JUST JUST A COMMENT  AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP  ASSESSED VALUES. ALTHOUGH ARE  ASSESSED VALUES MAY STILL BE  LOW RELATIVE TO SALES PRICE.  >> THEY HAVE GONE UP AND MOVE  ON SIGNIFICANT. LOT OF OUR  RESIDENTS. AND MANY OF OUR  RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY  STRUGGLING WITH THE INCREASE  IN THEIR PROPERTY TAXES DUE TO  THE INCREASE IN THEIR  ASSESSMENTS. SO AGAIN I JUST  CAUTION AND BEING TOO CAVALIER  ASKING.  >> FOR MORE MILEAGE TO FUND  THINGS WE JUST NEED TO BE  AWARE THAT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE  WHO LIVE HERE. IF THEY'RE  STRUGGLING ALREADY AND ANY  INCREASE NEEDS TO BE DONE AND  A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY.  THEY WILL ULTIMATELY MAKE THE  DECISION. BUT I WANT A  SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME. I WANT ALL  OF.  >> 4 OF THOSE I BE APPROVED BY  OUR RESIDENTS. AND I JUST  THINK WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE  OF DOING THAT IF WE DO IT IN A  FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE WAY.  SURE.  >> WE NEED TO GET STAFF SOME  DIRECTION AS TO WHAT. WE WANT  TO DO WITH THIS BECAUSE IT  WILL CERTAINLY. THE AMOUNT OF  MONEY WE'RE LOOKING YOU KNOW  WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER AND A  SEPARATE SECTIONS FOR OUR  CITIZENS SO. WE MAY BE BUDDY  WANT TO OR FROM CONSENSUS. ON  THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.  >> I'M FEELING RELUCTANT TO DO  IT UNTIL WE GO. LOOK AT WHAT  SPECIFIC DIRECTION BE A  TEACHER.  >> SO THE MANAGER WAS SO SARS.  >> SLIME NUMBER 26 WE OR  POTENTIAL REFERENDUM QUESTIONS  AND THE FIRST 2 ALREADY TAKEN  CARE OF NOW IT THE NEXT 2.  THEIR LIVES ORDINANCE TO BE  DETERMINED SEEKING VOTER  APPROVAL TO ALLOW FOR BARRING  FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS IN  THE AMOUNT OF 15 MILLION  DOLLARS. SO AT THAT TURNOVER  AND YOU A THERE THAT QUESTION.  NOW I BELIEVE IT WE'RE GOING  TO BUT WE DID WITH HIGH SCHOOL  OF ART YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE  THE DECISION TO SAY. AND WE  WANT TO PAY FOR X AMOUNT OF IT  OUT OF SURTAX WHICH IS KIND OF  HOW WE EXPLAIN IT WHEN WE GET  BY BOULEVARD WHICH WHICH IS  WHAT WE DID AND HOW WE GOT  HERE TODAY SO YOU CAN THE  QUESTION AS IT IS YOU CAN TO  IT OR NOT THAT'S YOUR FIRST  CHOICE. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE  IS ASKING IF YOU WANT POINT  JOHN THEY WILL BE SEEKING  VOTER APPROVAL TO ALLOW BALL  REPORTING BY CAPITAL  IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THE  AMOUNT UP TO 31 MILLION  DOLLARS. THEY WILL CREATE  BALLOT QUESTION THAT OUTLINES  THOSE 3 ITEMS THAT WE IT TO  YOU TODAY FOR THE SITUATION.  >> A CONSENSUS AND IF YOU WANT  TO CONSENSUS TO APPROVE MOVING  FORWARD WITH SEEKING  150 MILLION THE P D AS THE  QUESTION WAS PUT IN AS NO  CHANGE. I MEAN YES. MISTER  DUVALL.  >> I MEAN YES.  >> AND I AM A YES. STAFF HAS  DIRECTION THERE.  >> MAKE ANOTHER CONSENSUS TO  MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CAPITAL  IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ASKING TO  BORROW UP TO 31 MILLION  DOLLARS FOR THE 3 PROJECTS  THAT WERE STATED WITH  DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD. JUST A  QUICK CLARIFICATION QUESTION.  IT  >> WE ASSUMING ALL OF THESE IN  MAY. THAT THE ASSUMPTION.  YEAH, ALL 4 OF THESE WILL THEN  BE AROUND THAT. VOTES. THIS  WAY.  >> AND THE REASON I DID IT BUT  IN FELLOW STARTER MAYOR WAS  TALKING EARLIER. BUT IN THE  POSTS OUT THERE ON FACEBOOK  THEY HAVE ASKED IF YOU HAVE  SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT YOU  WANT TO DESIGNATE THAT'S WHY I  MADE THAT VERY CLEAR THAT  THESE WERE GOING TO BE  DESIGNATED PROJECT TO HAVE  CITIZEN INPUT TO GO AHEAD.  >> MOVE FORWARD OR.  >> MAY BE HOLED UP IN THE  FUTURE BUT IF WE CAN BORROW WE  CAN GET COURT OR SO. THAT'S  THAT'S WHY I AGREE WITH THAT  AND IT'S ALSO PART OF THE  ADVERTISING OF IT SO I MEAN  YES ON THAT CONSENSUS. SHOULD  DEVELOP  ♪ ♪ JUST OCCURRED TO I'M THE ISSUE  WITH EMERGENCY BORROWING.  DIFFERENT WONG.  >> TALK ABOUT THAT. WE'VE GOT  THE CONSENSUS GOING FOR THIS  OKAY.  >> NUMBER  >> FOR US.  >> OKAY WITH A ONE 15 AND  PROF.  >> I SUPPORT THE 31 NO BUCKS.  >> AS TO WHY. SO WE HAVE  THEY'RE GOOD.  >> NOW THAT WE'VE GOT A  CONSENSUS YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU  WANT TO SAY ABOUT YOU WANT TO  BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE  ON THE  >> AS. YOU KNOW THERE'S WE'RE  ALL THE TIME BUREAU AROUND THE  QUESTION.  >> WELL THERE ARE A LOT MORE  WE DECLARED EMERGENCIES. AS IT  HAPPENS. ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS.  I'M SITTING ON THIS AND POSE  THE QUESTION TO GETS TO DECIDE  WHAT WILL BE CLEARED URGENCY  CZAR. ACTUALLY THERE ARE  ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION.  >> FLORIDA STATE LAW IT'S IN  THE STATUTES.  >> DECLARED EMERGENCIES. YOU  KNOW WHAT THEY'RE FOR.  >> I WISH THAT THAT THAT  NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ME. 2 HOURS  LATER WHEN I LOOK AT ALL FOR  BUT IT WAS KIND OF AT NIGHT.  BUT YES I DON'T THINK THE  CITIZENS SHOULD BE CONCERNED  ABOUT. DECLARED EMERGENCIES  THOSE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS  THAT ARE NEEDED. SO GOOD WITH  MACE OR CITY MANAGER COULD WE  BRING UP THERE WAS A LIST OF  DO'S AND DON'TS OF THE LAST  PAGE YOUR PRESENTATION COULD  IT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE WANT TO  TOO. OKAY SO TO DO SOME GOOD  EFFORT ICE ABOUT THE  REFERENDUM ON SOCIAL MEDIA  DIRECT MAIL OR EMAIL. CAMP  OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T. THE CITY  ITSELF CAN'T PROMOTE. BUT CAN  IT. CAN IT PROVIDE  INFORMATIONAL. EDUCATIONAL I  MEAN EDUCATE.  >> WELL, I'M NOT SURE EDUCATES  RIGHT WORD AND LAST HAVEN'T  DUES INSIST DIRECT ASSISTANCE  TO THE WEBSITE WAR.  INFORMATION YOU AND CAN WE PUT  THAT INFORMATION OUT WE'RE  FACING WITHOUT BEING ASKED.  >> NO DIRECTED TO A WEBSITE  THAT TO THE WEBSITE THAT IT'S  INFORMATION SIMILAR TO WHAT WE  DID IN I MEAN NOTHING TO  CHANGE FROM WHAT WE WERE ABLE  TO DO OR NOT ABLE TO DO IN  NOVEMBER, CORRECT. TO YOU  KNOW. I'D LIKE TO I WE'RE ON  THE SUBJECT IS A WORKSHOP IT'S  WORTH TALKING A LITTLE BIT  ABOUT. THE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT  CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDED.  TOWN HALLS. I DON'T EVER  RECALL THERE ACTUALLY EVER  BEING. ALL IN THE CITY THAT I  KNOW MAYBE YEARS AGO WHEN  POPULATION WAS WAS MICROCOSM  OF WHAT IT IS NOW. BUT THE  IDEA OF SITTING AND SAY THE  MORGAN CENTER AT A TABLE WITH  CITIZENS CAN ASK QUESTIONS  BACK AND FORTH WHETHER WE HAVE  WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS OUT SO  YOU KNOW BOYD SOME REDUNDANCY  AND WHILE WE SIT THERE AND  DIRECTING ALLOW PARIS  COMMISSIONERS TO ANSWER AND  OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO FOLLOW  I THINK WOULD BE INVALUABLE  YEAR. I THINK THAT. YOU KNOW  HAVING 4 ITEMS ON A  REFERENDUM. PEOPLE HAVE SAID  GEE FOR ITEMS THAT'S KIND OF A  BIG MENU. WELL WE HAVEN'T  WALKING YEAR. THERE'S NO OTHER  ELECTIONS GOING ON IN MAY. OUR  BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS GOING TO  BE IN FIGURE 8 AND EXCITE THE  COMMUNITY IN PARTICIPATING. IN  NOVEMBER DESPITE IT WAS ONLY  300 FOLKS THAT THAT ARE OUR  REFERENDUM DIDN'T PASS BY.  50,000 ROUGHLY CITIZENS VOTED.  THE WORD THEY WANT TO  PARTICIPATE IN THE  DECISION-MAKING PROCESS OF HOW  WE SPEND THEIR TAX DOLLARS.  >> AND AND AND.  >> THEY NEED TO COME OUT AND  VOTE. REALLY NEED TO COME OUT  AND VOTE AND WE REALLY NEED TO  FIND WAYS ENCOURAGE HIM COME  OUT AND VOTE.  >> YES, NO, I DON'T KNOW COME  OUT AND VOTE. THIS THIS IS  EVERYONE'S CHANCE. TO  PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS. I  HATE IT FOR 10,000 15,000  PEOPLE TO MAKE THE DECISION OF  THESE 4 REFERENDUM ITEMS. MY  GUESS IS THAT'S JUST WHAT'S  GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I  CHALLENGE ANYONE WHO LISTENS  TO THIS SINCE LISTING NOW OR  IT'S GOING TO LISTEN TO IT  THAT I DARE YOU GET OUT IN  COME TO THE EAST HOW FACE YOUR  QUESTIONS CHALLENGE US. YOU  HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IT'S NOT  3 MINUTES TO SAY YOUR WORDS  AND THEN WE  GO NEXT THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO  HAVE A REAL TOWN HALL AND ASK  QUESTIONS THERE SHOULD BE  HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AT THIS  THING AND I HOPE PEOPLE TAKE  IT SERIOUSLY BECAUSE. WITHOUT  YOU WE CAN'T DO THIS. AND  THESE PROJECTS ARE CRITICAL  WE'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU  ALL ASKED US TO DO IN  NOVEMBER, WHICH JUST ASK YOU.  AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO ASK SO  PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD BECAUSE  OVER THE NEXT 3, 4, MONTHS  WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE  PUBLIC TALKING EVERYBODY  SHARING INFORMATION WE NEED TO  ALL TO STEP UP AND PAY SOME  ATTENTION TO SO IT'S CRITICAL.  >> I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY  ELSE AS I SAY JUST TO LET YOU  KNOW MAYOR WE DID HAVE TOWN  HALLS IN THE PAST I MYSELF WE  HAD FOREMAN SCHOOL SOCIAL NOW  HAS ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO OR SO  COURSE GOT UP BOARD THAT I  MIGHT HAVE THAT BE AN  EXEMPTION JUST GOT BEGINNING  OF ALL THAT. BUT YOU KNOW  WE'VE HELPED OUT HOLES AND  THEY ARE A LITTLE IMPORTANT  QUESTIONS AND THAT ANSWER  ISN'T.  >> IT WAS A GOOD EVENING. BUT  YOU KNOW ABOUT.  >> ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.  CITY MANAGER DO WE NEED ANY  OTHER NEED ANY OTHER  DIRECTION.  >> THINK I THINK WE'RE GOOD I  THINK WE'RE GOING BRING YOU  BACK THE ORDINANCES YOU  REQUESTED BACKBONE JAY FOR 40  28 WILL. THE 72.  >> RIGHT CITY CLERK WE HAVE  ANY PUBLIC WE DO NOT.  >> BUT JUST A PAIN THAT I  GUESS IT 1244, WE COULD SHARE  IN THIS WORKSHOP.