LOVE THE ESPRIT DE CORPS THAT  EXPERIENCE. JUST HOW EVERYBODY  TEAMWORK TOGETHER I I ENJOY  KNOWING THAT CAN MAKE A  DIFFERENCE FOR THE CITY AND  THAT MY POSITION CAN HAVE A  POSITIVE IMPACT FOR OUR CITY.  ♪ PROMISE ALWAYS INTERESTED IN  PORT.  >> HERE TODAY, WITH MARY OF  ANY PLAYER SCHEDULE FOR THE  CITY OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE  DIVISION WE'RE GOING TO TALK  ABOUT PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A  SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT  SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD  NOT GO OUT TO THE CURRENT  WHERE TO PLACE THE ITEM TO  THEM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE  MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF  OF THE YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW  WE CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8,  0, 50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER  SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT  HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE  DO THAT.  >> CAN ALSO GO ON A  WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT  CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL  OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO  WHEN IN DOUBT.  >> IF A PERSON WANTS TO PLAY  SET OUT WHAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE  OUT. WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS  THE WRONG THING BASICALLY  FRANK ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T  FIT IN THE CONTAINER THAT'S  GARBAGE IS GOING TO GO  CURBSIDE GOING TO STAY OFF  DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S NOT ACCEPT  THAT IS TIRES CHEMICALS.  >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT  YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S  CONSIDERED BALK BUT JUST MAKE  SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM  GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A  SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT  HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP  BOTH THE COUNTRY COULD  QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE  BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE 1658  CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S LINKED  TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT DIVIDED  BY 27 IS ONE COULD PICK OUT  ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S  NOT GIVE US A CALL  941-240-8050.  >> I'M STACEY LOVES OF  EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR CITY  WORK AND I'M GOING DISCUSS  FIRST RESPONDERS AFTER STORM,  SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE FOR  FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET THE  STORM AND THAT'S DUE TO A  VARIETY OF REASONS. ONE ALL  FIRST RESPONDERS OFF THE  ROADS, THE TROPICAL STORM  FORCE WINDS ARE SUSTAINED FOR  THEIR SAFETY AND THAT IS A  STANDARD TO IN OTHER STATES  THAT SO WE WILL HAVE A BACKLOG  OF CALLS THAT HAVE COME IN  DURING THE STORM THAT WILL  PRIORITIZE BASED AND  RESPONDING TO AS WELL AS THE  CALLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY  COMMUNICATOR. ALSO ON THE  ROADS MIGHT BE FLOODED. THERE  MIGHT BE DEBRIS IN THE ROADS  ARE TECHNICAL PERSON TEAMS  WILL BE GOING OUT RIGHT AWAY  TO CLEAR THE ROADS HAUSER'S US  SO THAT OUR  ♪ VEHICLES CAN GET THROUGH AND  RESPOND THE CAUSE. JUST KEEP  THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU CALL  AFTER DISASTER FOR CITIZENS,  WE ARE COMING. WE ARE VERY  IMPORTANT AS WE CARE ABOUT OUR  RESIDENT AND THAT SAFETY, BUT  IT MAY  ♪ JUST TAKE A WHILE FOR US TO  GET TO THE PANDEMIC THAT  >> I'M STACEY LOS YOU KNOW ON  THE EMERGENCY IN WATER THEY  ARE GOING SEE STORM SURGE  FLOODING OVER NEXT SO STORM  SURGE IS STRONG SUSTAINED WHEN  ARE CONSTANTLY GOING OVER A  LONG PERIOD OF TIME OVER THE  GOAL PUSHING WATER UP ONTO NOT  HAPPEN. THERE'S A LOT OF  FLOODING A LOT OF BEACH  EROSION ALONG TEACHER AND THE  HOME. HOWEVER THIS STORM CAN  ALSO PUSH WATER OF THE RIVER  PUSHED ON THE MYAKKA RIVER FOR  INSTANCE, AGO AND THEN THE  WATER COMING DOWNSTREAM FROM  THE RIVER HAS ORDERED TO DO  BECAUSE WATER TO BACK FLOODING  THAT ALONG WITH A LOT OF RAIN  THAT COMES FROM ALSO CAUSED  INCREASE OF WATER FLOODING  INTO THE RIVER  ♪ AND INTO OUR WATER MANAGEMENT  CAUSING FLOODING WELL. PUBLIC  WORKS WITH A LOT OF WORK  BEFORE THE STORM TO MAKE SURE  THAT OUR WATER LEVELS POSSIBLE  FOR AND THE WAR AGAINST STORM  SURGE AND FLOODING IN OUR  WATER SYSTEMS IF YOU WANT  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON  ♪ THAT WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL  ABOUT A LOT FOLKS  >> HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL ON THE AQUATICS  MANAGER WITHIN OUR PARKS  RECREATION DEPARTMENT WERE  HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH PORT  AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO TALK TO  EVERYONE ABOUT OUR FLOW FOR  LIFE PROGRAM WE RECOGNIZE THAT  NATIONALLY UNINTENTIONAL  DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE  OF DEATH FOR CHILDREN THAT ARE  UNDER THE AGE OF 4. SO WE HAVE  AN AWESOME PROGRAM HERE CALLED  BLOW FOR LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE  IS A PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH  THAT STARTS WITH THE  FUNDAMENTALS OF FLOATING  BEFORE WE ACTUALLY LEARNED  SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM IS  TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN  AGES 6 MONTHS TO 4 AND WHAT WE  WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT  THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE  WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY  FALL IN THE WATER OR FIND  THEMSELVES IN A TROUBLED  SITUATION, THEY CAN ROLL OVER  THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE  LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM WE WERE  THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT  WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS  MILESTONE PROGRAM SO WANT TO  GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR NORTH  ROTARY AS WELL WHO SPONSORED  THIS PROGRAM HERE AT THE  AQUATIC CENTER AND ACTUALLY  PAY FOR A TRAINER TO COME ALL  THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA RIVERS  PROGRAM ORIGINATES THERE WE  PRACTICE AND WE GO THROUGH  WHAT'S CALLED MILESTONES HERE  SO AS SOON AS THE KIDS  PROGRESSIVE, THE MILESTONE WE  CAN CONTINUE MOVING ON THROUGH  THEM AND AT THE END OF IT IT'S  A PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM WHEN  THEY GRADUATE AS ONE OF THE  FINAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IS  THEY JUMP IN FULLY CLOTHED AND  THEY HAVE TO TURN OVER ROLL  OVER ON THE BACK AND ACTUALLY  BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR HELP AND  THAT POINT IN TIME, IT'S JUST  AN AWESOME SEGMENT PROGRAM  THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO OUR  LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM SO THAT  WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE  KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE IN ON  AND AROUND THE WATER.  >> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER  I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW  REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL  PEOPLE HERE HAVE ONLY BEEN  DOING THIS JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE  5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT  EXCELLENT SO MARIO TELL PEOPLE  WHAT IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO.  THE PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR  SOLID WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT  AND I AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS  TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON  RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS  INTERESTING VERY SO MARIO WHAT  HE FOUND INSIDE THE RECYCLING  BIN SHOULDN'T BE THERE SO  LET'S TRY TO TELL PEOPLE HOW  TO  >> OKAY GOOD MORNING. TODAY IS  THURSDAY JULY 25TH 2024 IN IS  09:00AM AND WE ARE IN THE CITY  CHAMBERS AND I CALL THE CITY  COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING TO  ORDER. THIS MEETING HAS BEEN  PROPERLY NOTICED AND WILL BE  CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING  REQUIRING THE USE  ♪ OF COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA  TECHNOLOGY CMT. OF VOTING  MEMBERS IS PRESENT AND CITY  COMMISSION CHAMBERS, A HYBRID  MEETING ALLOWS VOTING MEMBERS  TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE  WITHOUT PHYSICALLY  ♪ BEING PRESENT IN THE ROOM WITH  THIS FORM IS CAN ROLL CALL WE  HAVE A VICE MAYOR STOKES  MYSELF MAYOR WHITE  COMMISSIONER LANGDON  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND WE  WILL NOW HEAR FROM  COMMISSIONER AND RICH.  >> THE MORNING.  >> AS AUTHORIZED BY SECTION  POLICY NUMBER 2021 DASH TERM.  I AM ATTENDING THE HYBRID  MEETING VIA COMMUNICATIONS  MEDIA TECHNOLOGIES  EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL  CONDITION, INCLUDING MANY  DISABILITIES PREVENTING ME  FROM ATTENDING MEETING IN  PERSON AT THIS TIME. THANK  YOU.  >> THANK YOU SO I'M LOOKING  FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE  USE OF SEE FOR THAT WE HAVE A  MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF  CMT FOR THIS HYBRID MEETING.  BY VICE MAYOR STOKES AND  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON WE WILL HAVE A VOICE  VICE MAYOR YES MAYOR ZS  LANGDON YES.  >> DELANO.  >> COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  DIDN'T HEAR NOW YES, THINK  THAT NOW THAT PASSES 4 TO ONE.  ALSO WE HAVE CITY MANAGER  FLETCHER. ASSISTANT CITY MIKE  LIKABLE  ♪ GOOD TO SEE WORK WE HAVE BOTH  CHIEFS OF THE HOUSE CHIEF  HARRISON AND FIRE POLICE.  CHIEF HARRIS AND I'M SORRY AND  FIRE CHIEF TITUS GOOD TO SEE  YOU I'M GOING TO  ♪ OUR HUMAN RESOURCES. DIRECTOR  CHRISTINE MONDAY LEAD US IN  THE TO LAUGH. UNITED STATES  AMERICA.  >> AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD  INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND  JUSTICE FOR ALL.  >> ALL RIGHT SO LOOKING FOR A  MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA  SO OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION MADE  BY VICE MAYOR SO IS TO APPROVE  THE AGENDA WITH A SECOND BY  COMMISSIONER LANE THEN WE WILL  HAVE A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR  SPARES US SEE YOUR TS. OH I'M  SO SORRY LONDON SAY YES, BE  EVERY ALL RIGHT SO THAT PASSES  BY TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT IS  NOT. GENERAL BUSINESS ITEMS 3  A 24 DASH 1, 0, 9, 8,  CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR  ITEM.  >> THANK YOU MEMBER OF THE  SIDE OF DISCUSSION POSSIBLE  ACTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 2  PLANS FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT IN  FOR HEALTH CARE CENTER IN LAST  THING ON THE SAVING NO ONE  WANT $24,700 FOR THE FISCAL  YEAR 2025 IT. I WILL TURN IT  OVER TO OUR HUMAN RESOURCE  DIRECTOR CHRISTINE WE'LL GET  INTO WE WILL HAVE A POWERPOINT  PRESENTATION IT.  >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE FOR  THE RECORD CHRISTINE MCDADE  HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR. IT'S  MY PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO KICK  OFF OUR DISCUSSION THIS  MORNING YOU SEEM SUBJECT  MATTER EXPERTS ON EMPLOYEE  HEALTH THE PERSON AND THE SEAN  FLEMING IS THE SENIOR BENEFITS  CONSULTANTS FROM VERY ROOT AND  WE WILL ALSO HAVE GORDON  BURGER DIRECTOR OF BUDGET  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FROM  CHARLOTTE COUNTY. I UNDERSTAND  WE'RE GOING SHOW KICK IT  >> ALL GOOD MORNING,  EVERYBODY. THANK FOR THE  OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AGAIN  IN SENIOR BENEFITS CONSULTANT,  THE CARING GROUP FOR THE  RECORD. REAL QUICK AS WE'RE  LOOKING AT THE POWER POINT  HERE JUST A LITTLE A LITTLE  BACKGROUND IN FOLLOW-UP AS YOU  ALL WE BROUGHT TO THE HEALTH  WAS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO NOW.  AND JUST QUIT KIND OF QUICK  RECAP ON OVERALL THE HEALTH  INSURANCE CAME IN A 1.3%  PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT, BUT  SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE  STARTED CERTAINLY AT THAT  POINT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE  OPPORTUNITY OF STARTED  EMPLOYEE HEALTH CENTER  EMPLOYEE SO I WANT DIVE RIGHT  INTO THAT TODAY AS CHRISTINE  SAID I'M GORDON BERGER IS HERE  FROM CHARLOTTE COUNTY. SO MANY  KICK US OFF AND THEN GOING IS  GOING TO ACTUALLY TALK SOME  MORE ABOUT THEIR HEALTH CENTER  AND SOME OF THEIR ACTUAL  RESULTS. SO YOU GET TO HEAR  FROM HIM INSTEAD OF ME WE  THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE GOOD. SO  JUST A HIGH KNOW WHAT WE'RE  GOING TO GO OVER TODAY. BUT I  THOUGHT WILL GO AHEAD AND DIVE  RIGHT IN TAKE A LOOK SO I  ALWAYS LIKE START WITH A  LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND. AND YOU  KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF YEARS  WHERE INFLATION REALLY WASN'T  MUCH OF THE DISCUSSION AND  THEN AS YOU ALL KNOW THE LAST  COUPLE YEARS. INFLATION IS  REALLY IMPACTED EVERY PART  EVERYONE'S LIFE. BUT FOR THOSE  OF US DEALING WITH HEALTH  INSURANCE AND WORKING WITH  THAT. THAT INFLATION IS KIND  OF GOING TO THE LEVELS WE'VE  SEEN IN THE REST OF THE  ECONOMY, THE WHOLE TIME. SO  THIS IS JUST A PRICE  WATERHOUSE COOPERS PUTS AN  ANNUAL SURVEY TOGETHER AND  THIS IS A LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL  TREND WHICH IS A FANCY WORD  FOR MEDICAL INFLATION. WILL  LOOK GOING BACK TO 2007. SO WE  HAD MEDICAL INFLATION THAT WAS  ABOUT 12%. THINGS HAVE COME  DOWN A LITTLE BIT OVER THAT  TIME. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE  PROJECTING THAT NATIONAL TREND  OR MEDICAL INFLATION. IT'S  GOING TO BE 8% FOR 2025. THE  LITTLE ASTERIX THAT ALWAYS  GIVE WHAT THAT IS IN THE STATE  OF FLORIDA WERE TYPICALLY  ABOUT 3% HIGHER THAN THE  NATIONAL AVERAGE STUDER ON  RETIREE POPULATIONS COST OF  CARE. MEDICATIONS ALL THOSE  THINGS. SO IT'S LIKE SET  BACKGROUND AND UNDERSTAND THE  ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH  CARE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE  COSTS WE'RE FIGHTING AN UPHILL  BATTLE EVERY YEAR. SO LITTLE  BACKGROUND AND TIMELINE ARE  ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS KIND  OF IN THE INTRO. BUT JUST GO  BACK SO BACK IN 2018. WE  ACTUALLY WENT FROM BEING FULLY  INSURED FOR THE CITY PAYS THE  INSURANCE COMPANY A PREMIUM  AND BASICALLY THEY TAKE THE  RISK ON THE CLAIM SO IT'S KIND  OF A WINNER TAKE ALL CONTRACT.  EMPLOYEES HAVE MORE IN CLAIMS  GOING TO THE HOSPITAL DOCTOR.  AND WE PAID IN PREMIUM.  INSURANCE COMPANY LOSES MONEY.  THE FLIP SIDE. UNLESS THEY  WALK AWAY WITH A PROFIT. SO WE  MADE THAT TRANSITION BACK IN  2018. AND ACTUALLY PART OF THE  DISCUSSION I KNOW SOME OF THE  YEAR ROUND BACK IN 2018 DID  THAT WAS A LONG-TERM BEING  SELF AND IT WOULD LET US  CONSIDER SOME OTHER THINGS ONE  OF THOSE BEING THAT ALL SUMMER  SO ACTUALLY GOING 6 YEARS NOW  IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE I WAS 6  YEARS AGO. WE ACTUALLY REALLY  STARTED SOME OF THESE  DISCUSSIONS AND PART OF THAT  DISCUSSION WITH THAT WAS TOO.  ABOUT THE HEALTH FUND AND TO  WORK ON BUILDING SOME RESERVE  SO THAT WE COULD CONSIDER THIS  DOWN THE ROAD. IN 2022 THINGS  ALMOST COVID I THINK WE ALL  REMEMBER THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF  THAT WE HAD SOME NETWORK  ISSUES SO WE ACTUALLY  TRANSITION TO AT. AND THEN AS  I SAID AT THE BEGINNING JUST  LOOKING AT IT. THIS YEAR. IT  LAST CLAIMS OF BEEN A LITTLE  BIT HIGHER WITH BUDGETED 10%  WE ONLY NEEDED A 1.3%  INCREASE. DUE TO CLAIMS IN  BETTER THAN EXPECTED. SO  THAT'S MY QUICK INTRO NO I  DIDN'T TAKE A BREATH AND  THEY'RE ALL SLOW DOWN A LITTLE  BIT. AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT  CLINICS. GETTING TO THAT. THE  MORE IMMEDIATE THE  PRESENTATION SO ONE IS AN  EMPLOYEE HEALTH CENTER. REAL  HIGH LEVEL, SIMPLE 5 AN  EMPLOYEE HEALTH CENTER IS  BASICALLY A MEDICAL FACILITIES  SIMILAR TO A COMBINATION OF  YOUR DOCTOR'S OFFICE. SOME  SPECIALISTS OFFICE AN URGENT  CARE ALLOW A PHARMACY THE  GENE. ALL AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT  HOW IT FUNCTIONS IN A SECOND.  REALLY THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF  THE HEALTH CENTER IS AS THE  EMPLOYER. WE WANT TO TAKE  THESE COSTS THAT ARE INFLATING  IT CRAZY RATES AND PRIVATE  MARKET, THE MEDICAL SYSTEM AND  SEE IF WE CAN BRING THEM SOME  OF THEM NOT ALL OF THEM. IN  HOUSE TO REALLY CONTROL THOSE  COSTS OVER THE LONG TERM AS  WELL PROVIDE EMPLOYEES BETTER  EXPERIENCE WHICH GORDON IS  GOING TO TALK ABOUT LITTLE  MORE DETAIL. ALL OF OUR  CLIENTS. ANY HEALTH CENTER'S  OF THEY HAVE WE HAVE ABOUT 25  CLIENTS CROSS STATE THAT HAVE  HEALTH CENTERS. THEY'RE ALL I  THINK THAT ONE OPERATED BY A  3RD PARTY. AND I LIKE TO HIT  ON THAT SO THAT 3RD PARTY, I'M  NOT ONLY ARE THEY JUST  SPECIALIZED MANAGING HEALTH  CARE STAFF THEY HAVE THE  ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS  SYSTEM. THEY CARRY THE  LIABILITY INSURANCE FOR THE  MEDICAL MALPRACTICE. ALL THAT  STUFF IS ON A 3RD PARTY, SO  THE CITY. IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO  A HEALTH CENTER IS NOT OUT  THERE TRYING TO DETERMINE IF  DOCTOR. YOU KNOW DOCTOR SMITH  IS QUALIFIED DOES HE HAVE THE  RIGHT LICENSES. IT ALL AND BY  A 3RD PARTY, SO I LIKE THEM  SIZE. SO WHY WOULD WE WANT TO  CONSIDER AN EMPLOYEE HOUSE. SO  THE FIRST ONE OF OVERARCHING  REASONS WE'RE TRYING TO LOWER  OVERALL COST OF SHOWED YOU THE  SLIDE WITH LOOKING AT WHERE  INFLATION IS AND WE'RE TRYING  TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO  LOWER THOSE COSTS FOR THE LONG  TERM. SO ONE OF OUR  PREDOMINANT REASONS FOR  CONSIDERING A CLINIC IS TO  LOWER THOSE COSTS OF LONG-TERM  THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO  PASS AS LARGE OF INCREASES ON  DOUBLE THE CITY AND THE  EMPLOYEES. THE OTHER THING  THAT REALLY IS BECOMING EVEN  MORE PREVALENT IS WE HAVE A  MASSIVE SHORTAGE OF PRIMARY  CARE PHYSICIANS AND THE  MARKET. AND SO WHAT DOES THAT  MEAN YOU KNOW PEOPLE HEAR THAT  AND I THINK A LOT OF TIMES  THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT TO  TAKE FROM THAT I GIVE YOU AN  EXAMPLE. LET'S SAY THAT YOU  HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAS A  RELATIVELY. SIMPLE CONDITION  TO MANAGE. BUT RIGHT NOW  THERE'S JUST THEY CAN'T GET IN  WITH A PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER  HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS IN A LOT  OF CASES, LET'S SAY THAT ARE  RELATED NOW THAT INDIVIDUAL  WHERE A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN  IS COMPLETELY QUALIFIED TO  HANDLE TREATMENT AT THAT. THEY  END UP GOING TO A SPECIALIST  BECAUSE THEY CAN GET INTO THE  SPECIALS. WELL THAT'S  SPECIALIST OFFICE VISIT IS AN  EXAMPLE COSTS ABOUT 4 TIMES  PRIMARY CARE OF US. WHAT YOU  ALSO SEE WITH A SPECIALIST  THEN IS IT MAY HAVE MORE  EQUIPMENT AND TESTING SO  THEY'RE GOING TO RUN TESTS  THAT REALLY ARE NEEDED AND ALL  THOSE THINGS TAKE WHAT SHOULD  BE A RELATIVELY LOW COST  PRIMARY CARE VISIT. AND NOW  OUT OF A BURDEN ON THE MEDICAL  SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER COSTS AND  IT'S ALL BECAUSE EMPLOYEE  CAN'T GET HIM WITH A PRIMARY  CARE DOCTOR. SO THEY'RE GOING  TO A SPECIALIST AND THEY'RE  HAVING UNNECESSARY HOUSE  YOU'RE DOING ALL THESE THINGS  AND THAT'S DRIVING HER AND  THAT'S A PROBLEM. BOTH IN  FLORIDA AND NASH. THE OTHER  THING I DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW  YOU ALL EXPERIENCES, BUT YOU  GO TO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND  YOU SIT THERE IN THE WAITING  ROOM FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF.  BEFORE THEY FINALLY GET YOU  BACK THERE TO SPEND 6 MINUTES  WITH THE DOCTOR. AND THEN YOU  WALK OUT AND GET THE CAR MAYBE  THIS JUST HAPPENS EVEN GO. OH  MY GOSH FORGOT TO ASK HIM  ABOUT THIS AND THEN YOU CAN'T  GET BACK IN AGAIN FOR 3  MONTHS. ALL RIGHT SO. WITH THE  HOUSE SENATOR WITH ALL OR ELSE  ENTERS. REALLY NO WAITING.  SCHEDULES A DOCTOR IN PRIVATE  INDUSTRY PRIMARY CARE THEY SEE  A PATIENT EVERY 6 MINUTES TO  BE PROFITABLE. HOW SENATORS  ARE NOT SET UP IN THAT WAY. SO  THE DOCTORS ARE ABLE TO SPEND  MORE TIME WITH THE EMPLOYEES  WHICH ONE BENEFIT THE OTHER  EMPLOYEES BACK TO WORK A LOT  QUICKER THAN THEY WOULD BE  JUST GOING OUTSIDE OF. THE  HEALTH CENTER AND WITH THAT  WITH THAT REALLY FOCUSING ON  SPENDING TIME WITH THE  EMPLOYEE TO MANAGE CHRONIC  CONDITIONS, NOT JUST GET THEM  IN AND OUT AND GIVE THEM AND  EXPENSIVE PRESCRIPTION AND  THEM REALLY TRYING TO IMPROVE  HEALTH. AND BEHAVIOR AND FROM  AN EMPLOYER POINT OF VIEW. ALL  LEADS TO REALLY BEING ABLE TO  ENHANCE RECRUITING AND  RETENTION RETAIN EMPLOYEES IN  GORDON'S GOING TO TALK A  LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT AND THEN  THE LAST PART IS YOU KNOW JUST  OVERALL WELLNESS THAT HEALTH  CENTER IS ABLE TO BECOME AN  INTEGRAL PART OF YOUR WELLNESS  OFFERING AND REALLY IMPROVE  AND HELP THEM ON THE SO ALL  THOSE THINGS WHAT ARE SOME OF  THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY. WE  HAD ON A FEW OF THEM SOME 90  GO LINE BY BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU  KNOW BEING ABLE TO ENGAGE  EMPLOYEES AND THEIR DEPENDENTS  SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE PRIMARY  CARE SHORTAGE. YOU ON AVERAGE  STATISTICS SAY THAT ABOUT 60%  OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A  RELATIONSHIP AT ALL WITH A  DOCTOR. RIGHT IT'S JUST A  CHRONIC I GO HERE AND THERE SO  WE'RE TRYING JIM PLOY EASE SO  THAT WE CAN GET AND OF THESE  HIGH-COST INCIDENTS BEFORE  THEY HAPPENED FOCUSING ON  PREVENTION IS PART OF THAT.  CHANGING THE ATTITUDE REALLY  TOWARDS HEALTH CARE. RIGHT NOT  JUST I GO SACK. I'M ACTUALLY  GOING BECAUSE I MIGHT NOT KNOW  IT'S SOMETHING IS COMING UP  AND I NEED THAT ENGAGEMENT  WITH THE PROVIDER. AND THEN  AGAIN AS WE SAID AND WE'LL  TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT  THIS, BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE  TRYING REDUCE ALL THOSE COSTS  TO THE MEDICAL PLAN. NOW TALK  A LOT ABOUT THE MEDICAL PLAN  BUT THAT SECOND TO LAST A FULL  AND I WANT TO HIT ON AS WELL.  MOST OF OUR HEALTH CENTER'S  ALMOST ALL FOR A CLIENT. THEY  ACTUALLY ON TOP OF THE MEDICAL  CARE. THEY PROVIDE BOTH THE  OCCUPATIONAL AND KIND OF  FIRST-LINE WORKERS COMP  TREATMENT. SO RIGHT NOW IS AN  EXAMPLE IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY  GETS INJURED ON THE JOB THEY  MAY HAVE TO GO DO IT. MEDICAL  FACILITY THEY MAY HAVE TO HAVE  A SUPERVISOR GO WITH THEM.  THEY SAID THERE ARE 5 OR 6  HOURS IT TAKES THEM OFF. THE  JOB. THE HEALTH CENTER YOU'RE  ABLE TO BRING A LOT OF THOSE  SERVICES AND HOUSE. SO THERE  WON'T BE A WAY AND THAT IS  IMMEDIATE RETURN ON INVESTMENT  BECAUSE THOSE ITEMS YOU GET  BILLED AS YOU GO. THE WORKERS  WORKERS COMP PLAN YOU ALSO  HAVE A LOT OF OCCUPATIONAL  THEY CAN BE RUN THROUGH THE  TUNNELS. SO BENEFITS TO THE  EMPLOYEES THERE'S A LOT OF  OVERLAP ALL OF OUR CLIENTS  STRUCTURE THE CLINIC AND THE  WHOLE CENTER NO COST. SO IT'S  A WAY TO ENHANCE THE OFFERING  TO THE EMPLOYEES TO  INCENTIVIZE THEM TO GO. THE  REASON WE CAN DO THAT IS  BECAUSE THE NET COST OF  PROVIDING THAT SERVICE. IT'S  SO MUCH LOWER THAN THE MEDICAL  PLAN THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO  WAIVE THAT COSTS FOR THE  EMPLOYEES HAVE THEM GO THERE.  I THINK IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF  THE BIGGEST THINGS WHEN WE  TALK TO EMPLOYEES THE FACT  THAT THEY CAN GET IN AND NOW.  YOU KNOW IN LESS THAN AN HOUR  MOST OF OUR PHARMACIES MOST OF  OUR CLINICS DISPENSING  MEDICATIONS RIGHT THERE, AND  THEY CAN DO THE LAPSE ON SITE  SO YOU THINK ABOUT IF YOU'RE  AN EMPLOYEE RIGHT NOW THAT  MIGHT BE 3 SEPARATE VISITS FOR  YOU YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR. THEY  SEND YOU TO A LAB AND THEN  YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO THE  PHARMACY TO PICK UP YOUR  MEDICATION. YOU CAN DO THAT  ALL KIND OF A ONE STOP. BIG  FOCUS ON PREVENTATIVE HEALTH  CARE AND ULTIMATELY WHAT OUR  GOAL FOR BOTH THE EMPLOYEES  AND THE CITY IS IS LOWERING  THE COST OF THAT MEDICAL PLAN.  WHICH GETS PASSED ON AND  SAVINGS TO EVERYONE. YOU THAT  SECOND ALASKA PRESERVATION OF  HEALTH CARE IN THE MARKET IS  COSTCO UP, YOU KNOW WHAT WE  SEE IS A LOT OF GROUPS HAVE TO  CUT THE SCHEDULE BENEFITS TO  THE EMPLOYEES AND THEY'RE  TAKING THEM AWAY FROM SO  REALLY WITH ALL THOSE COST  SAVINGS ARE LOOKING PRESERVE  AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THE  BENEFITS THAT THE EMPLOYEES  HAVE SO THAT IF YOU DO HAVE  SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC. YOU  GET CANCER, YOU KNOW IF YOU  HAVE A HEART ATTACK. YOU KNOW  THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT  YOUR INSURANCE TO BE THERE. WE  DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A A  HORRIBLE BURDEN SO THE MORE  THAT WE CAN KEEP THOSE COSTS  DOWN THE MORE THAT THE  INSURANCE CAN BE THERE FOR ONE  PEOPLE REALLY. THE LAST THING  I ALWAYS LIKE TO HIT ON JUST  FOR ANYONE LISTENING IS. THE  3RD PARTY IS OPERATING IN  EVERYTHING THAT RUNS THROUGH  THE HEALTH CENTER IS  COMPLETELY CONFIDENTIAL  FOLLOWS. IT BUT JUST LIKE A  DOCTOR'S OFFICE. NONE OF THAT  INFORMATION IS SHARED BACK  WITH THE EMPLOYER. THEY'RE NOT  IN THE KNOW THAT SEAN CAME IN  FOR X Y REPORTING IS IS GOING  TO BE MORE HIGH-LEVEL HERE'S  HOW MANY VISITS. WHAT  PERSCRIPTIONS BUT NOBODY'S  INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE  SHARED. WITH THE EMPLOYER.  THROUGH THIS IN HERE THIS IS  NOT ALL INCLUSIVE LIST, REALLY  LIKE SIZES I KNEW CORDON IS  HERE TO TALK BUT. THIS IS NOT  SOMETHING WHERE. YOU'RE ONE OF  THE ONLY ENTITIES CONSIDERING  THIS OR IT'S A NEW ACTUALLY  BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE AND I  I WOULD GUESS THAT THERE'S  OVER 50 ENTITIES ACROSS THE  STATE THAT ARE DOING SO WITH  FIRST OF ALL STOP AND ASK  THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT  FOR SECTION OR ANYTHING I SAID  AND IF NOT I'M GOING TURN  THINGS OVER TO GORDON LET HIM  INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND TALK A  LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR  EXPERIENCE. THANK YOU  COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS  AT POINT THAT'S THE THING TOO  WAIT TO HEAR THE WHOLE PERSON  TO SHORE IN  >> FOR THE RECORD GORDON  BERGER DIRECTOR BUSH  ADMINISTRATION SERVICES FOR  CHARLOTTE COUNTY WERE  COMMISSIONERS. PROBABLY SHOULD  BE HERE. THIS IS ONE OF MY  PASSIONS, SO I I I. WELL THE  OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK SO THANK  YOU SO MUCH. WHY DO WE HAVE A  HEALTHY HAHA.  ♪ THIS IS IT'S KIND OF GRAPHIC  PICTURE, OKAY THAT'S ME IN THE  MIDDLE PART THERE ARE ANY ONE  OF US.  ♪ THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THIS  COUNTRY IS INCREDIBLY COMPLEX.  I PERSONALLY THAT'S  FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN. WE DON'T  HAVE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM WE  HAVE A CARE SYSTEM. AND WE  CAN'T WAIT AROUND FOR THE  FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO FIX. SO  FAR OUR GOAL IS TO FIX IT FOR  OUR OWN ORGANIZATION SO YEAH,  I MEAN YOU CAN SEE UP COMPLEX  YOU YOU'VE IDENTIFIED ALL  THESE I HOW MANY OF YOU EVER  DEALT WITH AN INSURANCE CLAIM  THAT DIDN'T GO EXACTLY THE WAY  YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GOING CALL  NOW. HOW MANY EVER WAITED  LONGER A DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND  WHAT LIKE TO WAIT, YES. AS  SEAN SAID YOU KNOW R WE'RE  ABLE TO PEOPLE IN OUT PRIMARY  CARE PHYSICIAN HELPS  COORDINATE ALL THIS.  >> YOU  >> 10 YEARS AGO MY MY  MOTHER-IN-LAW. CONTRACTED BOTH  OVARIAN CANCER AND BREAST  CANCER, MY WIFE CAME DOWN TO  HELP HER OUT. MY WIFE WAS ABLE  TO TAKE 3 MONTHS OFF OF HER  SURGERY TIME JUST I GETTING ON  THE PHONE AND CALLING THE  DIFFERENT PARTIES IT'S ALMOST  LIKE CASE MANAGEMENT. YOU KNOW  TOUCH. COLIN PLACE IN AND SHE  SAID CAN WE MOVE TO SOMETHING  WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS  FIRST SHE CALLED THAT PLACE  WELL WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS  FIRST JUST BY MAKING THOSE  CALLS SHE MOVED HER MOTHER  ♪ 3 MONTHS. SO THAT THE SYSTEM.  THEY DON'T TALK TO  ♪ EACH OTHER. AND BILLING  DOESN'T TALK TO AND MY MOTHER  WAS JUST IN CAR ACCIDENT 2  YEARS AGO, 13 REBS WENT ICU  SPENT 5 DAYS, THEY'RE SENT  HOME. WE EXPECT ALL THE BILLS  COME FROM THE HOSPITAL, NOT  EVEN THOUGH THE IMAGING WAS  DONE IN THE HOSPITAL, IT WAS  BUILT BY SEPARATE COMPANY,  EVEN THOUGH THE DODGERS ARE IN  THE HOSPITAL. THE BILL'S CAME  FROM DIFFERENT DOCTORS TRYING  TO COORDINATE ALL THAT WAS  INSURANCE AND MEDICARE JUST  YOU KNOW A NIGHTMARE. AND SO  THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF THE IS  IS COORDINATION OF CARE. NOW  WE SAVES MONEY. BUT IT HELPS  OUR EMPLOYEES AND IT MAKES FOR  A BETTER ENVIRONMENT. WITH 2  HEALTH WE STARTED OUT THIS IS  OUR ONE IN PORT CHARLOTTE IT  SO ROAD WE NAMED AFTER OUR OUR  FORMER RISK MANAGER BOB PRIOR  PASSED AWAY. AND THEN WE HAVE  ONE IN PUNTA OURSELF ANNEX.  I'M NOT GOING TO TALK A LOT ON  THIS BECAUSE SHOWINGS ALREADY  COVERED IT ALL AND I THINK HE  PRETTY MUCH HIT EVERYTHING  HERE EXCEPT FOR THE LAST ONE  EMPLOYEE MORALE. THIS IS THIS  A HUGE BENEFIT FOR OUR  EMPLOYEES.  ♪ AND THE BENEFITS SIMPLY SHORT  TOUCHDOWN, MOST THIS I WON'T  SPEND MUCH TIME ON THE PIECE  THAT I WANT TO MAKE COST SEAN  SAID. YOU KNOW EVERY TIME AN  EMPLOYEE VISITS  ♪ OUR DOCTOR. I SEE 110 BUCKS.  BASED ON WHAT THEY WOULD HAD  TO PAY FOR AND THEY WOULD HAVE  HAD A $25 CO PAY. IT COMES  DOCTOR. IT WAS REAL COLD I  HATE I SAVE A $110 FROM THEM  GOING AND VISITING A DOCTOR  THAT ON THE PLAN. SEAN SET  SPECIALIST EVEN MORE SAVINGS  SO THAT THE FACT THAT WHEN  THEY COME TO OUR OFFICE IT  SAVES A LOT OF WE ALSO OF A  LARGE FORMULARY FOR  PRESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE FREE.  AND WE'RE GOING TO HELP TALK  ABOUT NOON. WE'RE GOING  EXPANDING AND THEN SHOWN SAID  IMAGING WE NOT ONLY HAVE  ON-SITE SOME IMAGING BUT WE  HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THE LOCAL  IMAGING COMPANIES. EMPLOYEES  GO THERE DOES MAKE AN EFFORT  TO WRITE SCRIPT THEY'VE RUN  INTO THE HEALTH CENTER GOES TO  TO TO THE THE EMPLOYEE PAYS  NOTHING. AND AGAIN I SAVE  BIDEN GOING THROUGH OUR  CONTRACT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF  THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT AS  WE'VE GROWN WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO  WORK OUT TERMS OF THIRD-PARTY  AGREEMENTS. IT SAVED US  ADDITIONAL MONEY, CONVENIENCE  ARE PLEASE GO ONLINE. A SELECT  A PLACE A PROVIDER. ALL THE  APPOINTMENTS POP UP THAT ARE  AVAILABLE THEY SELECT AN  APPOINTMENT. THEY SHOW UP.  THERE'S TABLET THERE FOR THEM  TO GO OUT BUSH BECAUSE IT'S  BECAUSE WE KNOW WHO THE  POPULATION IS BECAUSE ALL OF  THEIR DATA IS ALREADY CAPTURED  A QUESTION YOU KNOW ON THE  FRONT OF IPAD. I'VE NEVER HAD  TO WAIT MORE THAN 5 MINUTES TO  GET IN AND CHOOSE BECAUSE I'M  A LITTLE BIT EARLY. AND YOU  KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THE DOCTOR  YOU SEE THE DOCTOR BASED ON  WHAT YOUR SCHEDULE AN  APPOINTMENT FOR IT BLOCKS TIME  DOCTORS CALENDAR FOR EITHER  2040 MINUTES, OKAY. SO AS THEY  SOME TIME ACTUALLY SEE TOO  MUCH I GO IN I JUST WANT TO BE  IN THERE FOR A FEW MINUTES AND  HE'S GOING TO SPEND TIME WITH  ME AND ASK ME ALL THESE  QUESTIONS SO IT ACTUALLY WE  LOOK AT THIS AS VERY MUCH A  THROWBACK THIS IS THROWBACK TO  THE FAMILY DOCTOR OUR  EMPLOYEES GET TO KNOW THE  DOCTORS. THEY LIKE THE DOCTORS  THEY FORM RELATIONSHIPS WITH  THE DOCTORS AND THEY TRUST THE  DOCTORS SO CONFIDENCE THERE  TOO THAT THEY KNOW IF THIS  DOCTOR. THE STOCK WATCHING OUT  FOR THEIR WELL-BEING.  AND AND AND THEY KNOW HIM  PERSONALLY WERE HER PERSONALLY  AND SO WHEN WHEN THEY GIVE  THEM ADVICE. THEY BELIEVE IT.  SHOWINGS ARE TO TOUCH ON THIS  I WON'T.  >> BUT THE BENEFITS OF HAVING  PRIMARY CARE DOCTORS IS  MANIFOLD AND CHONG SORT OF  TOUCHED ON AND I ACTUALLY  STOLE THIS FROM SEAN.  ESTIMATED SHORTAGE OF PRIMARY  CARE DOCTORS BY 2030.  >> SO THE THAT MODEL IS VERY  QUICKLY, FADING THAT MODEL  LOVE OF THE FAMILY DOCTOR. AND  SO THAT'S THE HEALTH CENTER  HELPS PRESERVE THAT.  >> THE  >> HISTORY ON YOU KNOW WE  STARTED THIS 2009. AND IT WAS  A A BUDGETARY ISSUE TO SAVE  MONEY. AND JUST GIVE YOU A  HISTORY OF COURSE THIS WAS IN  THE RECENT RECESSION. OUR  EMPLOYEES THROUGH WE WENT FOR  7 YEARS WITHOUT PAY INCREASES  DURING THE RECESSION AREA  PERIOD. ONE OF THE THINGS THE  COMMISSIONERS HELD UP FROM THE  EMPLOYEES ARE BUT WE HAVE AN  INCREASED YOUR HEALTH CARE.  COST AND WE PRESERVED YOUR  YOUR OF YOUR BENEFITS THERE  AND THAT WAS THE ONE THING  THAT THEY CAN HOLD UP IN FRONT  OF EMPLOYEES AND SAY AND I CAN  SAY TO THIS DAY. OUR EMPLOYEES  ARE STILL STAYING THE SAME.  PREMIUMS THAT THEY PAID IN  2006. NEARLY 20 YEARS, OUR  EMPLOYEES HAVEN'T FACED ANY  INCREASES TO BOW. PERSONALLY.  WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HOLD THAT  FLAT OF TIME. SO THAT THAT'S  THAT'S A HUGE HUGE BENEFIT.  AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE.  BECAUSE IT WAS DURING  RECESSION. THINGS WE HAVE TO  DO IS DEMONSTRATE RETURN. BEST  YOU CAN. SO I HOPE THEY CAN  DEMONSTRATE THAT IN 2011 WE  MOVED TO SELL FUNDING MODEL. I  THE CLINIC OPENED IN WE CALL  IT A CLINIC AT THAT TIME WE  MAKE SURE NOW IT IS A HEALTH  CENTER ON A CLINIC, WE DON'T  PEOPLE THINK OF IT JUST TERMS  OF SICKNESS. BUT TO HEALTH  CENTER AND IT'S OUR WELLNESS  INCORPORATED INTO IT. I CAME  IN OCTOBER OF 2009. SO I'VE  BEEN THERE PRETTY MUCH SINCE  THE INCEPTION OF. IN 2012 WE.  ORIGINALLY WE OPENED IN LEASE  SPACE VERY CLOSE TO OUR OUR  MURDOCH CENTER. IT WE HAVE  PART-TIME DOCTORS WE HAD YOU  KNOW IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS A  PILOT. ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO  DEMONSTRATE THE COMMISSIONERS  THAT HEY THIS IS WORKING. WE  WERE BUILDING A NEW FACILITY  AND SO WE TACKED ON AND OFF  SPACE HAVE A ATTACH THAT  BUILDING SO WE OPENED THAT IN  2012. 2013 WE FORMALLY STARTED  OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM AND AND  CONNECTED WITH THE WITH HEALTH  CENTER AND IMPLEMENTED AND  INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT  CHANNELED EMPLOYEES TO HELP  CENTER. GOT THEM IN THE DOOR  GOT THEM SEEING THE DOCTORS  AND REALLY GOT THAT  PARTICIPATION RATE UP IN 2013  THE SHERIFF'S COUNTY, A MONTH.  SO WE WE HAVE NOT ONLY THE  BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS  BUT WE HAVE ALL THE  CONSTITUTIONAL IN THE COUNTY  WE HAVE THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY  AND WE THAT ARE ALSO PART OF  THIS. IN 2017 WE OPENED THE  SECOND SITE IN PUNTA GORDA.  2020 BECAUSE OF COVID. MOVED  TO TELEVISION IT'S YOU KNOW  VIDEO VISITS. THAT WAS A HUGE  HUGE BOOM DURING COVID REALLY  HELPED US OUT TREMENDOUSLY BUT  TOOK SUCH A FOOTHOLD WE STILL  HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2030 OF  OUR. PERCENT OF POINT  APPOINTMENTS EVERY MONTH ARE  STILL VIRTUAL APPOINTMENTS. SO  POLICE JUST LOVE IT. AND THEN  THIS YEAR. WE STARTED OUR OWN  ON-SITE PHARMACY PRIOR TO THAT  WE WERE WE WERE DISTRIBUTING  MATCH, BUT DOCTOR NOW WE HAVE  A PHARMACY AND I'M GOING TO  MORE. ONE OF OUR GOALS IN THIS  IS JUST I THE OTHER GREAT  THING ABOUT HAVING YOUR OWN  HEALTH CENTER YOU SEE MOUNT  DATA THAT YOU HAVE AT YOUR  DISPOSAL. I HAVE. I COULD I  COULD GIVE YOU 60 OF DATE UP  DEMONSTRATING THE COST  BENEFITS OF THIS IS JUST WANT  IN TERMS OF ER WE ALL KNOW ER  VISITS ARE VERY COSTLY.  THEY'RE OFTEN UNNECESSARY. AND  AND SO AND NOT ONLY BECAUSE TO  THE COUNTY BUT COSTLY TO THE  EMPLOYEE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT  GENERAL OVERALL TREND OVER  TIME BRINGING THOSE NOW. THIS  IS OUR TOTAL MEDICAL COSTS ON  ANNUAL BASIS. AND YOU CAN SEE  WE HAD FAIRLY FLAT TREND THERE  FROM 2009 THROUGH 2020. WHEN  HE WAS COVID.  ♪ ARTIFICIALLY LOW BECAUSE  PEOPLE STAY AWAY FROM YOU KNOW  MEDICAL PROCEDURES ALL STEPS  THINGS AND THEN SO YOU SEE A  SPIKE IN 21. AND THEN IT'S  MAINTAINED AT THAT FLAT PRETTY  FLAT FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS NOW.  AND I GET TO THIS BECAUSE WHAT  I'M TALKING ABOUT ABOUT DATA  BEHIND THE SCENES. BUT THAT'S  PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY TALKING  TOO LOW THAT IS NOT MEDICAL  COSTS. IT'S PHARMACEUTICALS.  BUT TAKE THAT SAME TREND AND I  LOOK AT IT INSTEAD ON A PER  EMPLOYEE BASE. THOSE CLAIMS  RISE IN CLAIMS BUT SAME TIME  WE'VE ALSO INCREASE THE  WORKFORCE, CONSTITUTIONAL  INCREASED THEIR WORKFORCE.  SHERIFF HAS. IF I LOOK AT THAT  ON A PER EMPLOYEE BASIS. THIS  IS THE TREND LINE. OVER THOSE  LAST. WELL YEARS. THAT TREND  LINE IS A LITTLE BELOW 2%  ANNUALLY. SO WHAT SEAN WAS  TALKING ABOUT YOU PERCENT PAST  YEAR. LOOKING AT BASICALLY AT  2% TREND LINE OVER THE PAST  YEARS AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S  BEEN A LITTLE STEEPER OVER THE  LAST FEW YEARS. IF I COMPARE  THAT TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.  THIS IS WHAT THE NATIONAL  AVERAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE OVER  THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME. AND  CUMULATIVE WAY NOW OBVIOUSLY  THESE ARE JUST A FUN EXERCISE  WE WOULD HAVE REALLY SPENT  THAT MUCH TIME ON HEALTH CARE  BUT AT 221 MILLION DOLLARS IN  SAVINGS COMPARED TO NATIONAL  AVERAGE AS SEAN SAID FLORIDA  WAS ABOUT 3% HIGHER SO THE  GREEN LINE IS FLORIDA AVERAGE.  IF WE FOLLOW THAT OVER THAT  SAME PERIOD OF TIME. WE'RE  LOOKING AT OVER 230 MILLION  DOLLARS FOR THE SAVINGS MONTHS  AWAY OVER THAT 12 OF TIME. SO  YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN A VERY  EFFECTIVE MEASURE FOR MAINTAIN  COST THAT'S THAT'S THE COST US  TO OUR EMPLOYEES HAS NOT  INCREASED ASCENT. SET LOTS OF  DATA TO MAKE DECISIONS I AND  THIS IS REMEMBER I SHOWED YOU  THAT RISING IN HEALTH CARE  COSTS. THIS IS THE  PHARMACEUTICAL PORTION OF IT  THAT WE'RE PAYING ON THE PLANT  NOT WHAT RUNS THROUGH OUR  HEALTH CENTER BUT WE'RE PAYING  ON THE PLANET AND YOU CAN SEE  THAT HUGE SPIKE THERE IN 2023  NEARLY ALL OF OUR INCREASE  CLAIMS. WE'RE PHARMACEUTICAL  SIDE. AS RESULT OF THAT  SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING  ON FOR A FEW YEARS BUT NOW  FINALLY GOT INTO OPERATION. IS  THAT WE'RE MOVING INTO HAVING  OUR OWN ON-SITE PHARMACY WE  OPENED IT IN OUR OWN ACCORD  OFFICE, WE'RE LOOKING  RECONFIGURE OUR CHARLOTTE CAN  ALSO HAVE A SITE THERE. WE IN  THE PAST WE OPERATE IS OFTEN  DISPENSARY MODEL WHICH MEANS  THE DOCTOR NEEDED TO SEE THE  PATIENT WRITE THE PRESCRIPTION  AND THEN THE DOCTOR THEMSELVES  HAD TO FILL THAT PRESCRIPTION.  SO WE HAD TO HAVE A MUCH MORE  LIMITED FORMULARY. TOOK EXTRA  TIME OFF THE DOCTOR SCHEDULE.  THIS IS MIGRATING TO WHAT IS  THERE'S BEEN RECENT STATE  LEGISLATION IS CHANGE AND  ALLOWED US TO HAVE WHAT'S  CALLED CLOSE PHARMACY WHICH  MEANS WE CAN HAVE OUR OWN  PHARMACY. IT'S CLOSE JUST FOR  OUR EMPLOYEES. LICENSE IT TOOK  US A LONG TIME TO GET THROUGH  THIS AS WE STARTED DURING  COVID ALL KINDS OF THINGS SHUT  YOU KNOW TRYING TO GET  SUPPLIES AND THE STATE  AGENCIES OUT TO LOOK AT US.  I'M JUST TOOK A LONG TIME SO  WE FINALLY HAD A SOFT THIS  PAST SPRING AND WHAT THAT  MEANS SOFT OPENING IS THE  PRESCRIPTIONS THAT WE'RE  ALREADY FEELING. DOCTORS. WE  MIGRATED THOSE OVER TO FILLING  FROM THE PHARMACY. WE'RE  GETTING READY TO SEND  ANNOUNCEMENT OUT ALL OF OUR  EMPLOYEES STARTING AUGUST. ON  MIDDLE OF AUGUST WE'RE  STARTING OPEN PHARMACY FOR ALL  INDICATIONS, WHICH MEANS EVEN  IF THEY GO TO. SPECIALIST OR  SOMEONE OUTSIDE OUR HEALTH  CENTER. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO  PRESCRIBE MEDICATION SEND  SCRIPT. WE WILL BE LISTED IN  LIST OF PHARMACIES THAT ARE  AVAILABLE. WAS SENT THE SCRIPT  TO OUR OFFICE. AND WE WILL BE  ABLE TO THEN FILL THAT  PRESCRIPTION. IF I CAN GET  JUST 15%. OF THOSE MEDICATION  SHIFTED FROM THE PLAN. OVER TO  OUR PHARMACY FROM SEA MORE  THAN PAYS FOR ITSELF ANYTHING  ABOUT 15%. IT'S COST SAVINGS  TOSS. SO ONE OF OUR SOME OF  OUR BIG DRUGS THAT HAVE REALLY  SPIKED IN LAST COUPLE YEARS  WAS BIG KIND NEW DRUGS THAT  ARE THERE THAT ARE VERY  EFFECTIVE BUT VERY I CAN SAY  ABOUT 30 TO 40% ON THOSE  TRUCKS. SO SHIFTING THOSE OVER  TO OUR PHARMACY WILL SAVE US A  TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY.  THAT THAT PHARMACIES I SAID  ALL RIGHT IT EXPAND OUR  FORMULARY WHAT NOT JUST  GENERIC ALSO THE SPECIALTY  DRUGS ALLOWS US TO TRY IT OUT  AND THAT MARKET THAT WE  COULDN'T MOVE INTO BEFORE.  >> INTAKE FOR FOR ALL ALL  PROVIDERS.  >> AND THE OTHER THING ON THIS  TOO IT'S NOT ONLY SAVES MONEY  ON THE PHARMACIES BUT IT ALSO  SAVES TIME FOR  >> OUR PHYSICIANS, THEY DON'T  HAVE TO PRESCRIBE THOSE THOSE  DRUGS ANY LONGER. AND AND SO  THEY CAN JUST WRITE THE  PRESCRIPTION THEY DON'T HAVE  TO FILL IT SAVES AT THAT BLOCK  OF TIME.  >> SO THAT THAT'S WHAT WE SEE  IS THE MAIN BENEFIT. SO AGAIN  A LOT OF BENEFITS WE SEE.  >> THE BIGGEST THING I WOULD  JUST REALLY EMPHASIZES. WE  HAVE THE DATA BY WHICH TO.  MAKE THESE DECISIONS. AND WE  CAN DEMONSTRATE OVER THE LONG  TERM COST SAVINGS AND OF  COURSE THE BIG THING IS TO PUT  HER OUT. ARMED POLICE JUST TO  TURN TRUMP. I'M SORRY ANY  QUESTIONS BEFORE DO THAT.  >> WE AT THE END OK.  >> SO. THANK YOU GORDON, I  GORDON  ♪ A NUMBER OF ADVANTAGES OVER ME  IN TALKING ABOUT THE SUBJECT  BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES IS  ABLE TO BE A PATIENT'S HEALTH  CENTER I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE  TO HAVE THAT ADVANTAGE BECAUSE  WE DO HAVE ONE FOR OURSELVES.  BUT YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S I THINK  SUCH A BENEFIT FOR THE  EMPLOYEES IF YOU TALK TO  EMPLOYEES OF ANY BIRDS THAT  THAT HAVE IT. YOU KNOW THEY  WOULD THEY WOULD TALK ABOUT  THAT BENEFIT I THINK THE OTHER  THING OF EVERYTHING GOING  SAID, YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THAT  INCREASE IN PRESCRIPTIONS AND  BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT  DATA. YOU KNOW WITHOUT A  HEALTH CENTER WITHOUT SOME OF  THAT DATA. EVEN IF YOU WHAT  WAS DRIVING THOSE COSTS YOU  DON'T HAVE A LOT AVENUES TO  ADDRESS IT. WE'RE HAVING THAT  HEALTH CENTER NOW GIVES AN  OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A  STRATEGY TO MITIGATE LOWER  THOSE COSTS AND THAT'S EXACTLY  WHAT THE PHARMACY. INTENTIONS  IS LOOKING AT HEY WE'VE GOT  WE'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB  WITH MEDICAL THE NOW WE'VE GOT  THE INDUSTRY MEDICATIONS ARE  REALLY GOING UP SO NOW LET'S  CREATE. A NEW SOLUTION TO  TACKLE THAT. SO WHAT I WANTING  TO JUST KIND OF GET IN THE  LAST SECTION IS. FROM YOU KNOW  WE WORKED WITH STAFF THERE ARE  A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS  STRUCTURE THE HEALTH CENTER  AND I THINK YOU'VE HEARD A LOT  OF THE BENEFITS FROM NOW. WHAT  WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS SO  WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR  THE CITY, IF YOU WANTED TO  OPEN. I'M A HOUSE N ARE NOT  ALL START WITH THIS. THIS IS  KIND OF A SORT OF MENU OF SOME  OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE'VE  SEEN CLIENTS ARE OUR CLIENTS  SET UP HEALTH CENTER'S I MAKE  YOU LESS LITTLE INTRO TO THEN  TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE IDEAS  THAT WE HAVE AND WHY SO IF I  STARTED ON THE WE'VE SEEN SOME  ENTITIES THAT.  >> OPEN UP A VERY VERY LIMITED  MODEL AND BY THAT I MEAN THEY  PUT A NURSE ON SITE THEY PUT A  COMPUTER.  >> AND A VIDEO CAMERA AND YOU  DO ESSENTIALLY A ZOOM CALL  INTO A DOCTOR. AND THAT'S YOUR  CARE WHILE THAT MAY SERVE SOME  BENEFITS WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY  LONG TERM RETURN ON INVESTMENT  THAT REALLY JUSTIFIES HAVING  THAT TYPE OF MODEL AS WE MOVE  TOWARDS LEFT. THERE ENTITIES  THAT ARE TRYING TO WHAT WE  CALL KIND OF LIKE A SHARED  SITE POTHOLE SO THEY'LL OPEN A  RETAIL LOCATION IN A GIVEN  AREA AND THEN THEY'LL GO OUT  TRY AND SELL IT TO DIFFERENT  EMPLOYERS. THEY PAY X AMOUNT  PER EMPLOYEE AND YOUR  EMPLOYEES CAN COME HERE WHEN  OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.  ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'VE SEEN  WITH THAT MODEL IS FIRST  NOBODY IS REALLY SUCCESSFULLY  LAUNCHED IT IN FLORIDA. WE  HAVE SEEN IT WORK IN SOME  OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.  BUT THEN ONE OF THE CONCERNS  COULD BE YOU KNOW THEY'RE  SELLING IT TO YOU KNOW FOR  PRIVATE COMPANIES AROUND YOU.  A HUGE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A  EXAMPLE. YOU MAY HAVE AN  UNDERCOVER OFFICER THAT YOU  KNOW DO THEY WANT TO GO INTO  THAT FACILITY. WELL THEY'RE ON  YOU KNOW DIFFERENT THINGS CAN  YOU GET. YOU HAVE A WORKERS  COMP YOU GET SOMEONE IN ON  SHORT NOTICE, SO THOSE ARE  SOME OF THE CONCERNS SHARED  SITE ASSURED ON SITE OR NEAR  SITE WOULD BE WARY OF THE  SAINT OR EITHER AT THE  BUILDING. BUT YOU SHARE WITH  OTHER GOVERNMENT CITY LOOK AT  THAT KIND OF OPTION AND THEN  ON THE FAR LEFT WOULD BE KIND  OF DEDICATED ON SITE SO THIS  IS JUST A SAINT OR EXCLUSIVELY  FOR ONE ENTITY ONLY EMPLOYEES  AND DEPENDENTS COME TO THAT  FOR CHARLOTTE'S POINT OF VIEW  THAT WAS ULTIMATELY WHERE THEY  STARTED. THEY STARTED WITH ONE  LOCATION. AND IT WAS SOLELY  FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND  DEPENDENTS, LATER THE  SHERIFF'S OFFICE AT IT ON SO  REALLY NEW TO THAT SHARED ON  SITE NEAR SAY TYPE MODEL WHERE  YOU MULTIPLE. AGENCIES OR  ENTITIES USING THE SAME  FACILITY. SO. WHAT WE WANT TO  TALK ABOUT TODAY IS WE'VE  LOOKED AT ALL THESE OPTIONS  AND WE IN. FOR THE CITY THAT  POTENTIALLY PARTNERING WITH  CHARLOTTE COUNTY WOULD BE THE  MOST ADVANTAGEOUS WAY TO  STRUCTURE THIS. SO WHY IS  THAT. SO THE FIRST THING IS  WHEN YOU WHEN WE LOOK AT THE  HEALTH CENTER AND WE LOOK AT  WHAT YOU NEED TO GET AND TO  TEASE THAT START WITH LESS  THAN BASICALLY A FULL-TIME  SCHEDULE. SO LET'S SAY 40  HOURS PER WEEK. YOU DON'T SEE  THE SAME ENGAGEMENT YOU SEE  CENTERS OPEN. EVERY DAY RIGHT  WHERE THEY GET MONDAY THROUGH  FRIDAY. WE CAN LEAD THE  WEEKEND NOW. YOU KNOW IF THE  CLINICS OPEN YOU KNOW ONE DAY  WEDNESDAY AND HALF OF FRIDAY.  WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I GET SICK  ON TUESDAY, AND I NEED TO GO  STILL GO TO THE URGENT CARE  AND SHE MISS A LOT OF THAT  SAVINGS IT'S NOT COMMUNION FOR  EMPLOYEES. SO YOU DON'T SEE  THAT ENGAGEMENT. FOR THE CITY  BEING ABLE TO POTENTIALLY  PARTNER WITH CHARLOTTE COUNTY.  SO NUMBER OF THOSE PROBLEMS  AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT. THE  FIRST IS TO HEALTH CENTER  LOCATIONS RIGHT NOW AS GORDON  SAID JUAN IN PORT CHARLOTTE  ONE DOWN AND UNDER QUARTER  RIGHT GORDON AS TECHNICALLY  THE. UNDER FLORIDA ADDRESS  JUST WANT MAKE SURE I SAID IT  RIGHT. SO WHAT WE WOULD  POTENTIALLY BE LOOKING AT IS  THE CITY. OPENING A FACILITY  IN PORT. BUT EMPLOYEES FROM  ALL 3 AGENCIES COULD  ULTIMATELY GO TO ANY LOCATION.  SO LOOKED IT. THE CENSUS FOR  CHARLOTTE COUNTY A COUPLE  MONTHS AGO THEY HAVE 400  EMPLOYEES GIVE OR TAKE WITH  A NORTH PORT ADDRESS. SO THOSE  EMPLOYEES COULD POTENTIALLY  COME TO THE NORTH PORT  LOCATION AND VICE VERSA YOUR  EMPLOYEES THAT LIVE SOUTH.  COULD GO DOWN OR LET'S SAY YOU  HAVE A DEPENDENT. IT WORKS  DOWN THERE EVEN THOUGH THEY  LIVE HERE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO  DRIVE BACK UP BE ABLE TO GO TO  ONE OF THOSE. LOCATIONS THE  PHARMACY. I CAN'T EVEN HIM  SIZE ENOUGH THE VALUE OF  POTENTIALLY HAVING THAT ALL  RETAIL PHARMACY ON CALL IT.  IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S NOT  WALGREENS IT'S NOT RETAIL IN  THAT SENSE. BUT IT'S NOT THAT  LIMITED DISPENSARY THAT GORDON  TALKED ABOUT WHERE IF THEY  DON'T HAVE MY MEDICATION. YOU  KNOW MY ONLY CHOICE IS TO  STILL GO THROUGH THE MEDICAL  PLAN AND GO TO WALGREENS OR  CVS OR PUBLIX NOW I CAN NOW  HAVE ALL THESE DRUGS WHICH ARE  COSTING THE PLANS. THE MOST  THAT NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO  BE STOCKED IF WE CAN DO IT IN  A SAVINGS OF THE OTHER THING  IS OCCUPATIONAL WORKERS COMP.  THOSE VARIES BY LOCATION BUT  THEY'RE ALREADY BUILT OUT FOR  THAT. SO THE CITY WOULD NOT  HAVE TO INVEST IN A LOT OF THE  EQUIPMENT. THERE'S ALREADY AN  IMAGING NETWORK IS R E RAISE  SO THERE'S A BUNCH THINGS THAT  WOULD NOT BE NEEDED.  POTENTIALLY IN NORTH PORT  LOCATION BECAUSE THEY'RE  ALREADY IN PLACE AND IF YOU  NEED YOU KNOW ONE OF THOSE  THINGS IT'S NOT THAT LONG OF A  DRIVE. SHE WOULD GET A LOT OF  BENEFITS THERE. AND THE LAST  THING I WANT TO KIND OF HIT ON  BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S ALWAYS  A QUESTION IS KNOW WE WOULD  LOOK AT STRUCTURE IN AN INNER  LOCAL AGREEMENT AND HALF  SHARING MODEL WHERE. WHAT USE  AN EXTREME EXAMPLE, THIS WOULD  NEVER HAPPEN BUT NONE OF  EMPLOYEES WENT TO THE  LOCATION. IT WAS ALL EMPLOYEES  FROM THE OTHER ENTITIES WE  WOULD SET UP A MECHANISM WHERE  YOU'RE NOT FOOTING THE BILL  FOR THAT WHERE YOUR PAIN BASED  ON YOUR EMPLOYEES USAGE YOUR  EMPLOYEES DISPENSING. AND  THAT'S SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY  WITH ANYTHING WE'RE TALKING  ABOUT WE'RE TALKING  CONCEPTUALLY TODAY THAT'S  SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE  BROUGHT BACK TO USE THE BOARD.  DID WANT EVEN THOUGH THAT IS  THE PRELIMINARY. YOU KNOW KIND  OF STAGES WE WANT TO TALK A  LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT  THAT POTENTIAL STAFFING  FACILITIES AND LIKE. THE  DESIRED SPACE WOULD BE TO HAVE  ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2200 2600  SQUARE FEET. BE OPEN 40 HOURS  PER WEEK. AND WE LOOK AT  HAVING A DOCTOR A NURSE, A  MEDICAL ASSISTANT AND WHAT WE  CALL A PATIENT'S SERVICE  COORDINATOR. THEY'RE GOING RUN  THE OFFICE AND THROUGH THE  SHARED SITES VERY HAVE SOME  WHAT WE CALL PART-TIME NURSE  EDUCATORS. SO WE WANT TO ADD A  YOU KNOW POTENTIALLY MAKE SURE  WE HAVE ENOUGH ACCESS WITH  THOSE INDIVIDUALS. THOSE ARE  PEOPLE THAT REALLY WORK WITH  THE EMPLOYEES, LET'S SAY YOU  JUST FOUND OUT DIABETES.  THEY'RE GOING TO REALLY SPEND  THAT TIME WITH YOU TO WORK ON  EVERYTHING FROM YOUR DIET YOUR  EXERCISE ALL THOSE THINGS AND  THEN WE OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD  HAVE POTENTIALLY ONSITE  PHARMACY DISPENSING WHICH IS  GOING TO BE THOSE LISTS A  PRE-PACKAGED REMOTE AND THEN  THE ABILITY TO GO TO THE  PHARMACY. AND THEN THE LAO  ALSO WOULD BE ON SITE. SO WHAT  THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY COST IN  THE FIRST YEAR. IT'S ESTIMATED  THAT THE STAFFING WHICH IS  GOING TO INCLUDE ALL THE TAXES  WAGES THEIR BENEFITS THEIR  LICENSING SOFTWARE WOULD BE  ABOUT 800,000. IT WOULD BE  ABOUT A 193,000 FOR MY HELP ON  SITE THAT IS CHARLOTTE  COUNTY'S BENDER TO OPERATE  THAT CENTER AND THEN THE  PASTOR COSTS WHICH ARE  SUPPLIED LABS PERSCRIPTIONS.  THAT'S AN ESTIMATE IT'S IT'S  ON MY SIDE BECAUSE WE'D LIKE  TO GIVE YOU HIGHER NUMBERS BUT  THAT IF I GO INTO THE CENTER  AND YOU GIVE ME A  PRESCRIPTION. OKAY THAT COST  $5. THAT'S INCLUDED IN IF IT  GETS USED LESS THOSE COSTS  WILL BE LESS OF A GET USE MORE  WHICH I THINK IF THEY USE  MORTARS A GREAT THING BECAUSE  LIKE GORDON EVERY VISIT SAINT  JOHN THEN DOLLARS EVERY  PRESCRIPTION SAVES. BUT THAT'S  ABOUT A YEAR JUST A HIGH-LEVEL  ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE FIRST  YEAR. WHAT POTENTIALLY COST AT  FACILITY. INTO THAT NETWORK  AND YOU KNOW FOR THAT EXPENSE.  YOU POTENTIALLY BE GETTING  ACCESS TO THE 3 SITES AND ALL  THOSE  ♪ THINGS WHICH YOU COULD  ♪ NOT DO ON YOUR OWN. SO REAL  HIGH LEVEL AND THEN WE'RE  GOING OPEN IT UP FOR BUT COUNT  WHAT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS BE.  WE WOULD WANT TO DRAFT AN  INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND MAKE  SURE EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT  ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE  WE WOULD NEED TO CONTRACT WITH  MY HEALTH ON SITE. AND THEN WE  WOULD LOOK PROPERTY SEARCH. SO  GORDON TODAY ABOUT CHARLIE  COUNTY IS HE SAID WHEN THEY  WERE KIND OF PILOTING IN  STARTING. LEASE THE FACILITY  THAT HAD MOSTLY BEEN BUILT OUT  AS A PRIOR MEDICAL OFFICE IT  WAS INTERESTING SET UP BUT  MOSTLY WAS A MEDICAL OFFICE.  AND THEN EVENTUALLY THE NEW  THE PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFUL  THEY ENDED UP INCLUDING INTO  THEIR SPACE FOOTPRINT AND I  THINK FOLLOWING A SIMILAR  MODEL FOR THE CITY WOULD BE  ADVISABLE AND THAT. COMPLETE  THOUGH ABOUT IF BILL OUT WAS  NEEDED. YOU KNOW YOU MAY FIND  A. MEDICAL FACILITY THAT  ALREADY HAS THE WALLS THE SET  UP THE FRONT DESK. YOU NEED  AND IT COULD BE VERY MINIMAL,  YOU KNOW IT COULD BE IS AS  EASY AS JUST GOING AND PUTTING  EQUIPMENT IN OR IT COULD MEAN  YOU KNOW SAID HE WAS UP CHANGE  IN SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND  THEN. OPENING A LOCATION AND  WE PUT OCTOBER 2025. AS I SAID  WE HAVE ABOUT 25 OPERATING  FACILITIES RIGHT NOW AND  PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE. ONE KIND  OF START TO FINISH GET INTO  THE PROCESS TAKES ABOUT A  YEAR. CHARLIE COUNTY WHERE A  CALL. IN 2008. WE STARTED WE  DID THE RFP WE DID ALL THAT SO  IT WAS RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE  YEAR MARK FROM KIND OF STARTED  THE PROCESS TO FINISH. SO  THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE WITH YOU  IN JULY 24. FORWARD LOOKING  FOR YOUR HEAD. SO WITH I WILL.  OPEN THINGS UP QUESTIONS GO  SIT DOWN THERE BUT IF ANYBODY  WANTS ME TO GO BACK TO THE  HAPPY TO COME BACK MOVE IT. I  THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES WE DO  HAVE QUESTIONS THAT MISTER  LINED IT.  >> THANK YOU MADAM AND YOU MAY  WANT TO TIE ME I HAVE A WELL  TO MAYBE 5 OKAY, YEAH, YEAH,  I'LL TALK COME BACK. I WANT TO  THANK BOTH GENTLEMEN FOR  COMING HERE TODAY AND SHARED A  LOT OF REALLY VALUABLE  INFORMATION AND PARTICULARLY  GOING BECAUSE I KEPT ASKING  STAFF OR ESTIMATIONS ALL KINDS  OF THINGS BEHOLD WE HAVE A  CASE STUDY JUST TO OUR SO.  >> I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR  EXPERIENCE ON THIS. I GUESS  THIS IS FOR GOING WHAT PERCENT  OF YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE REALLY  USING YOUR HEALTH CARE CENTER  DOCTOR AND THEIR PRIMARY CARE  DOCTOR.  >> I MEAN THE RED LINE ARE UP  SORRY ABOUT THAT. BELIEVE IT  OR NOT 98%. WOW IT DOESN'T  HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. BUT YOU HOW  LONG DID IT TAKE. IT WAS A IT  TOOK ABOUT 4 YEARS TO GET.  ♪ >> YOU KNOW FROM THAT INITIAL  PARTICIPATION RATE UP TO  LEVELING OFF WE'VE BEEN PRETTY  CONSISTENT SENSE AND RIPPED UP  OVER TIME.  >> BUT AFTER ABOUT 4 YEARS  WE'RE WE'RE ABOUT 9% OKAY  ABOUT HOW LONG DID IT TAKE FOR  YOU BREAK EVEN WHERE YOU'RE.  >> SAVINGS WERE EQUALING THE  COST THE OPERATIONAL COSTS OF  THE HEALTH CARE CENTER. WELL  FOR US IS THE  ♪ FIRST YEAR. SO  >> LIKE I SAID EVERY TIME THEY  WALK IN THAT SO YOU SAY $110  ON DOCTORS THIS IF YOU KEEP  THAT FROM GOING TO A SPECIAL  UNNECESSARILY YOU SAY IN  ADDITION DOLLARS EVERY TIME  THEY GET A PRESCRIPTION FROM  YOU YOU SAVE MONEY. SO FOR US  IT WAS IMMEDIATE SAY. AND CAN  DEMONSTRATE THAT THE FIRST  YEAR THAT'S  >> WE LIVE IN A VERY LITIGIOUS  SOCIETY. HOW DO YOU HANDLE  MEDICAL MOUNT MALPRACTICE AND  LIABILITY INSURANCE AND ALL  THAT HAPPY STALAG SEAN.  >> THAT'S WHY WE CONTRACT FOR  THIRD-PARTY BALLOT SHOT THAT'S  MORE OF A.  >> YEAH NO SO THAT'S PART OF  THE WHOLE REASON FOR  CONTRACTING WITH A 3RD PARTY  IS THEY ALTERNATELY TAKE ALL.  >> ALL OF THAT  >> IN. IN ALL YOU KNOW.  >> SO THAT OR.  >> THAT TOO I WANT THE SAME SO  COMING YEARS THAT 15. YOU KNOW  15 YEARS, I DON'T KNOW OF OUR  CLIENTS SO THOSE ARE AT  ANYBODY BRING A MEDICAL  >> WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND  WE DON'T HAVE WORKSHOP AT  TODAY THAT I HAD THIS  CONVERSATION WITH STAFF WE  HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF  OUR EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT  PARTICIPATING AND ONE OF OUR  HEALTH PLANS. I'M PARTICULARLY  CONCERNED ABOUT THEM. AND HOW  DO WE HOOK THEM AND NOW I  UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PURPOSE  IS TO WE WANT THEM  PARTICIPATING AND HELP PLANT  BECAUSE OF THE SAVINGS. I DID  JUNE DO ANYTHING TO TRY HOOK  THOSE EMPLOYEES AND BY  OFFERING THEM SHORT TERM.  ACCESS TO THE FACILITY PER USE  KOSTER ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO  YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY  EXPERIENCE WEST. HOW THE  UNINSURED COMPONENT OF YOUR  EMPLOYEE BASE. TO THE CENTER.  >> WAY WE ARE STRUCTURED AGAIN  EVERYONE STRUCTURE DIFFERENT  WE ARE PLAYING A STRUCTURE  THAT'S NOT AND OPTION BECAUSE  EMPLOYEES CAN WAIT HEALTH  INSURANCE UNLESS THEY CAN  DEMONSTRATE. BUT THEY HAVEN'T  THROUGH ANOTHER SOURCE WHETHER  YOU KNOW THE RETIRED MILITARY  WITH THEIR SPOUSE HAS A PLAN  THAT THEY CAN GET OUT. WE DO  NOT ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO FORGO  HEALTH CARE COVERAGE.  >> THAT'S INTERESTING WE DON'T  DO THAT AND CITY DOING NOW.  YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO POKE  AT THAT A LITTLE BIT. BECAUSE  I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT  FOLKS AUTOMATED PATIENT  RECORDS, I'M PART OF THE  SARASOTA MEMORIAL SYSTEM AND  IT'S GREAT BECAUSE WHENEVER I  GO TO ANYBODY, EVERYONE CAN  SEE TEST RESULTS AND NOTES AND  ALL OF THAT. HOW ARE YOU OR  VARIOUS CLINICS, I GUESS THIS  IS FOR HOW DOES THAT WORK IN  YOUR CLINIC. NOW HELP CENTER  NETWORK SO I WOULD ANSWER THAT  SOUTH ALL OF THE HEALTH  CENTER'S.  >> YOU KNOW MY HEALTH ON SITE  IN THIS EXAMPLE, THEY USED.  LIKE THIS YOU WHICH IS CHRONIC  MEDICAL RECORDS SYSTEM. SO  SOME THE WAY YOU KNOW IF  YOU'RE GOING OR A DOCTOR RIGHT  NOW YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO  UNIVERSITY IN MIAMI. SIMILAR  FUNCTIONALITY AND THAT IF YOU  NEED THOSE RECORDS SENT OR  ABLE TO TRANSMIT  ELECTRONICALLY. SO REALLY IT'S  GOING TO FUNCTION THE SAME AS.  DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND THAT  EVERYTHING IS THERE'S NEVER  BEEN AND THE CLINIC HAS NEVER  BEEN. ELECTRON.  >> I THINK THAT DOES IT FOR  >> SECONDS 6 AT VICE MAYOR.  >> YEAH I GET I WANT TO THANK  YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I  LOVE IDEA BECAUSE FRANKLY  INSURANCE COMPANIES AND HEALTH  CARE COSTS GOING THROUGH THE  ROOF. BUT I SOMETHING THAT  ACTUALLY WAIT WEEK SYSTEM IN  THIS COUNTRY AND ITS YOU KNOW,  EVERYBODY'S ONE ACCIDENT  HEALTH EMERGENCY AWAY FROM  FINANCIAL CATASTROPHE.  >> IF THEY'RE NOT CAREFUL. SO  YOU DON'T HAVE TO SELL THE  IDEA OF THIS. BUT I AM CURIOUS  ABOUT PHARMACEUTICAL END OF  IT. HOW DO YOU. HOW DO YOU  KEEP COSTS AND HOW DO YOU  KEEP. DO PROVIDE FOR THE  AVAILABILITY. ALL OF  PHARMACEUTICALS ON A REGULAR  BASIS. I MEAN WHEN. YOU KNOW I  MYSELF. FOULED CBS SUCH AN  IMPOSSIBLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT  DEAL WITH I SWITCHED OVER  PLACE AND FRANKLY I FOUND  THEIR PHARMACY TO BE STOP MOST  ITEMS AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN  FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IF YOU  NEED A PRESCRIPTION FILLED.  AND IT IS SOMETHING A LITTLE  OUT OF ORDINARY.  >> HOW DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY  IN YOUR PHARMACY TO STOP  THINGS WE'LL HAVE IT NEXT WEEK  OR THE WEEK AFTER MATCH.  THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR ME  PERSONALLY I WOULD THINK IT  WOULD BE FOR MANY PEOPLE.  >> A MINISTER WITH APPLAUD ALL  I WOULD SAY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE  A KNOWN POPULATION. SO MAKING  A DISTINCTION BETWEEN ACUTE  AND CRY. CHRONIC DRUGS ARE NOT  A PROP BECAUSE WE HAVE WE  HAVEN'T KNOWN POPULATION. YOU  COULD DRUGS WE'RE GOING TO  FIND OUT. BECAUSE FRANKLY  THAT'S THAT'S THE PIECE THAT'S  COMING AND THAT'S PIECES AS  PHARMACY.  >> THAT'S ALWAYS THIRD-PARTY  PROVIDER MY HEALTH ON SITE  THEY HAVE PHARMACEUTICAL  LICENSE.  >> THEY HAVE THE CONNECTION  WITH 38 FIRE AND I'M KNOW MORE  ABOUT THIS THAN ME, BUT THE  BIGGEST THING HERE HOW STATE'S  20 YEARS. WE ELIMINATE THAT IF  I GET MY TERMINOLOGY EXCEPT  THAT THAT MIDDLEMAN I PERCENT  OUT.  >> OF OF.  >> PROVISIONS GO THROUGH A PM  WHICH JACKSON COST THAT THAT  WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH.  BUT I SEAN WE'LL KNOW MORE  ABOUT THAT.  >> REST OF YOU KNOW, GORDON IT  PRETTY WELL AND THAT WAS GOING  TO ADD IS YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK  AT COSTS IN THE INDUSTRY RIGHT  NOW AND YOU KNOW I WAS LOOKING  AT ONE OF APPS THIS MORNING.  THERE IS A BIG AD LIKE YOU  KNOW HOW MUCH PHARMACY THAT  UP. BUT ALL THAT ARE MAKING IN  THAT TIME TO READ IT SEEMED TO  PROMOTING THAT BUT THE  PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGERS  WHICH ALL THE HEALTH PLANS OUT  THERE WHO WANT TO GO UP HER  CAREER THE DRUGS. AND THERE'S.  SIGNIFICANT MARKUP KNOW THEY  GET DISCOUNT THEIR SIGNIFICANT  MARKUP AND IN THAT PROCESS AND  SO WHAT THE **** CENTERED ABLE  TO DO IS IT'S CORRECT. RIGHT  THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE COSTS.  HAMILTON'S. SO THAT'S WHERE ON  SOME OF THE BUT THERE'S DRUGS  ON THE MEDICAL PLAN THAT OR  $1000 THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  COSTS AROUND 2. WHEN WE CUT  ALL THOSE COSTS OUT. YOU KNOW  THINK 2 YEAR THE AVAILABILITY  QUESTION YOU KNOW THERE ARE  CERTAIN MEDICATIONS RIGHT NOW  IN GENERAL THAT WE'VE JUST  SEEN SHORTAGES OF THAT GOES TO  NUMEROUS ITEMS. BUT I THINK  GORDON AND IT REALLY HEAD  WHICH IS. YOU KNOW, CBS  DOESN'T KNOW. PUBLIX WALMART  THEY DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO  COME IN AND THE NEXT 5 DAYS  AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK  FOR BECAUSE THIS IS A LIMITED  POPULATION. IT MIGHT BE TRIAL.  THE FIRST MONTH OR 2 WE MIGHT  BUT ONCE I GET FOR THE  ESTABLISHED WE'RE GOING TO  KNOW THAT ALTHOUGH IT IS ON  THIS PERSCRIPTION EVERY MALL  AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE  TO PROACTIVELY STALKING ORDER  THOSE SAFE. WHERE THE RETAIL  PHARMACY DOESN'T KNOW HOW AND  NO.  >> WHAT ABOUT THE EVENT I THIS  AVAILABLE THIS THIS WOULD BE  AVAILABLE TO EMPLOYEES AND  THEIR DEPENDENTS. IT'S AT THE  FINDINGS HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS. SO  FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE TOGETHER  PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY  MARY HOW HOW DO YOU HANDLE  ACCUSATION. YOU UP.  >> SO IT'S ALL ANSWER  GENERALLY AND CHARLOTTE FALLS  UNDER YOU KNOW. ALMOST ALL OF  OUR CLIENTS EXCEPT FOR ONE  WHICH COMMISSIONER LANGDON  ALMOST ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS  JUST HIT ON IT. BUT ALL OF OUR  CLIENTS EXCEPT FOR  ONE GUY, THE ELIGIBILITY FOR  THE HEALTH CENTER IS YOU HAVE  TO BE ON THE EMPLOYERS  MEDICAL. IT'S FAMILY COVERAGE  EVERY BUT IT'S UNDER FAMILY  COVERAGE GO. IF YOU ONLY HAVE  SINGLE COVERAGE. YOU KNOW  YOU'RE THE ONLY WANT GO. THAT  ONE CLIENT THAT I MENTIONED SO  FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ON THE  CITY'S THEY HAVE A MONTHLY.  THEY WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS  GO. NOW THEY HAVE TO PROVE  THEY HAVE PULL UP AND SURE  IT'S I SWEAR SO THEY USED THAT  AS AN EXCUSE NOT AT A HEALTH  INSURANCE AND SAY THE CLINIC'S  GOING TO BE MILDLY BECAUSE  ACTUALLY SINCE THE AFFORDABLE  CARE ACT THAT WOULD BE. THE  REQUIREMENTS OF HAVE AN  INSURANCE AND WHAT. IT IS AN  OPTION AND IN WAY LIKE I SAID  WE ONLY HAVE ONE THAT THAT  DOES IT I THINK THAT. THE  BIGGEST BENEFIT IS WE WANT TO  SAY. THE HEALTH PLAN BY HAVING  THOSE EMPLOYEES CLINICS THAT'S  WHY WE ONLY OUT ONE GROUP BUT  THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS  SORT OF BORN OUT OF A  RECRUITING AND RETENTION NEED  I THINK THAT'S HOUSTON THEY  PROBABLY WILL NOT CONSIDER IT.  YOU KNOW LONG TERM.  >> AND THE FINAL QUESTION I  HAVE REALLY IS SO HOW DO YOU  TRANSITION PEOPLE IN AN  ABSOLUTE POINT GETS HIRED BY  THE CITY. SO IMMEDIATELY THEY  GO ON THE PLAN IF THEY CHOOSE  TO BUY OKAY. SO THERE WERE IN  THE PLANT HOW THEY TRANSITION  OUT SOMETHING SOMEBODY WE IT.  PRETTY MUCH LIKE ANY OTHER.  SITUATION IS YOU KNOW YOU KNOW  THEY THAT COVERAGE LIKE THE  DAY THEY'RE GONE.  >> SO.  >> LOSE THE COVERAGE THE DAY  THAT YOU LOSE THEM A MEDICAL  COVERAGE THAT BEST AND LAWN.  YOU DO HAVE THAT COVERAGE  THROUGH THE END OF THE WE HAVE  TO BY IT BECAUSE FROM A  COMPLIANCE POINT OF VIEW THAT  THE CLINIC BECOMES CONSIDERED  PART OF YOUR MEDICAL PLAN OPEN  AND THEY SO THEY NEED TO BE  CONSISTENT DAYS. YOU KNOW IF  YOU WERE TAKE OVER OR YOU HAVE  TO WHILE THE HEALTH CENTER TO  BE A PART OF MOST OF PLAYERS  KNOW THEY TAKE OVER IN MARKET  SO. JIM CARREY GO TO THE  EXCHANGE SHOW.  >> TEMPERED COVERAGE FULL SO  IT'S OKAY, THANK YOU VERY  MUCH.  >> ALL RIGHT THE TIME, I'M  JUST WELL UP IT BUT WHAT WE  CAN HAVE ANOTHER ROUND.  >> YOU THAT'S FUN IF I NEED  MORE TIME, I'M SURE I CAN YOU  WHERE HAVE IT. COMMISSIONER  OUT.  >> AND JUST TO CONTINUE WITH  VICE MAYOR'S QUESTIONING  BEFORE I GET INTO MY OWN. YOU  TOUCHED ON COBRA COVERAGE  THOSE ARE COUPLE OF MINE. SO  IF THEY HAVE COVID THEY CAN  STILL USE AND ACCESS THE  EMPLOYEE OUT  >> IF THEY HAVE HANDS THEY ARE  ON AND I'M NOT A 100% SURE HOW  TO AL AIN WORKS WITH  INSURANCE.  >> IS THAT CONSIDERED THROUGH  COBRA OR DO THEY CONTINUE TO  PAY THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE  PREMIUM. WITH LIKE THE CITY  HOW DOES HOW DOES FMLA WORK  INSURANCE PLAN AND EMPLOYEE  HEALTH SON.  >> SO  >> PARTIALLY DEFERRED TO HRO I  WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN I  CRINGE ENOUGH BUT HAD TO KEEP  BUSY. BUT YOU KNOW GENERALLY  SPEAKING IF THEY WERE. SO ALL  THE MEDICAL PLAN OR AND THEY  WOULD GOT ALL FOR YOU GUYS  THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S  A GENERAL ANSWER PROBABLY.  >> BY CASES IT WOULD BE AND I  KNOW I YOU YOU'RE WORKING  DIRECTLY WITH THAT FROM THE  WAY RIGHT NOW BUT PEOPLE  CONTINUE THESE ARE HEALTHCARE.  SO I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE  THE SAME.  >> OKAY SO IT'S EMPLOYEE IS ON  FMLA.  ♪ ♪ ME AS AN AND IF A MALE AT. I'M  NOT COLLECTING A PAYCHECK  BECAUSE I'M WORKING I AM  HOLDING MY EMPLOYMENT SPOT. SO  WHO PAYS FOR FMLA WENT ONLINE  FMLA.  >> FOR THE RECORD THE HUMAN  RESOURCES. WHILE AN EMPLOYEE  IS ON AT AN L A IF THEY HAVE A  PORTION OF THE PREMIUM TO PAY  THEY'RE STILL REQUIRED TO SEND  IN A CHECK FOR THAT QUESTION.  >> WE REQUIRE CITY OF NORTH  PORT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES TO  USE THEIR ACCRUED LEAVE SO WE  DON'T RUN INTO THAT SITUATION  VERY MUCH.  >> BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL USING  THEIR TIME THEIR PAID TIME  THAT THEY'VE OCCURRED. IF THEY  EXHAUSTED ALL THAT TIME THEY  HAVE TO SEND IN A CHECK FOR  THEIR PORTION OF THE ON TRACK.  OKAY SO WE KNOW WE MAINTAIN  THE REST AS IF THEY WERE STILL  WORKING.  >> AND FORGIVE ME I JUST WANT  TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE  FAMILY THING. SO LET'S SAY I  HAVE BEEN APPROVED 10 DAYS OF  SICK TIME I HAVE USED UP ALL  MY VACATION TIME.  >> I WOULD BE ABLE TO COLLECT  LIKE ONE MORE MAJOR THAT I  HAVE TO PAY THE ENTIRE PRETTY  NEW.  >> JUST THE PORTION PREVIOUSLY  PAID BUT DOESN'T CHANGE THE  PORTION THEY PAY IT OFF AS  LONG AS THEY'RE ON AT THE LIFE  >> OKAY SO CITY PICKS UP.  >> MY FAMILY FOR 6 MONTHS I  ONLY HAVE ONE MONTH OF ACCRUED  TIME OFF THAT IS ACCEPTED.  >> THROUGH THE SO THE CITY  PAYS 100% OF MY PREMIUM EXCEPT  FOR THE PART REQUIRED.  >> DEFINITELY WOULDN'T RUNS  FOR 12 WEEKS SO DISTANT  DISTANT. I THINK MUCH LONGER I  THOUGHT LIKES MONTHS THAT YOU  FOR USE I JUST ALWAYS THOUGHT  IT WAS MUCH LONGER FOR LONGER  PERIODS OF TIME THAN JUST WELL  THINK SO THANK COMMISSIONER  DOUBT ADD ON TO WE'RE LOOKING  AT OUR BENEFITS COMPARED SOME  OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES  AROUND THIS. THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT DOES OFFER THAT  SHORT-TERM DISABILITY.  >> EMPLOYEES ARE WE PAY FOR  THEIR THEM TO HAVE BASIC  SHORT-TERM DISABILITY THAT  KICKS IN AFTER 30 DAYS. THIS  STILL GETTING THAT PAYCHECK. A  SHORT BY FOR SHORT-TERM  DISABILITY AND THEY DO HAVE  THE OPTION TO PAY A COUPLE  DOLLARS A MONTH FOR THAT IDEA  EXCEPT 30 DAYS DOWN TO 7. DO  STILL HAVE. I'M SORT OF PAY  COMING IN.  >> SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM  DISABILITY OPTION THAT  EMPLOYEES CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE  OF WOULD THAT GIVE THEM ACCESS  TO THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH CENTER.  >> IT WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING  FOR THE EMPLOYEE THEM BEING ON  LIFE STATUS HAS REALLY HAS  HEALTH CARE CENTER. IT'S JUST  THAT STATUS. THEY'RE STILL  GETTING A CITY INSURANCE  REGARDLESS OF THE GROUND AT A  SAID THAT OKAY SO AS LONG AS  THEY'RE EITHER AN EMPLOYEE.  >> THEY'RE ON CALL BROUGHT  THERE ON FM. LA SHORT-TERM  DISABILITY LONG-TERM  DISABILITY, THEY WOULD STILL  BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE HEALTH  CARE CENTER.  >> IS GOING ON TAX PLAN.  THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED  TO KNOW AND THANK YOU VICE  MAYOR FOR STARTING THAT  CONVERSATION SO NOW I'M GOING  TO GO INTO MINE.  >> FIRST I WANT TO REALLY  THANK YOU. MISTER BERGER FOR  BEING I KNOW THAT YOU DIDN'T  HAVE TO COME I'M REALLY  GRATEFUL THAT YOU TOOK THE  TIME TO COME AND HELP US  UNDERSTAND HOW SUCCESSFUL YOUR  PROGRAM IS AND JOHN ALWAYS  GREAT TO SEE YOU AND THANK YOU  FOR BEING HERE MISTER BERGER  HOW MANY EMPLOYEES TO  CHARLOTTE COUNTY HAVE WITH  THEIR EMPLOYEES AND  CONSTITUTIONAL POW MANY GPS  YOU KNOW. YES, I DO BECAUSE  RIGHT AROUND.  >> WHEN YOU COMBINE THE  SHERIFF, THE CONSTITUTIONAL  RIGHT AROUND 3200 AND THE  TOTAL NUMBER PEOPLE ON THE 2  ON THE PLANET USING HEALTH  CENTER'S RIGHT AROUND 5500  RIGHT NOW.  >> 5500 YES WITH THEIR  DEPARTMENT THAT'S DEPENDENT  SUN AND IN PLACE. SO OF THOSE  5500 THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO USE  THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH CENTER.  >> WITH YOU GUYS.  ♪ HOW MANY ACTUALLY DID IT GO TO  THE HEALTH CENTER LIKE THE  PAST YEAR, I  ♪ KNOW WELL.  >> OF OTHER EMPLOYEES AND  SPOUSES WE HAVE OVER 80%  DISSIPATION IN OUR ANNUAL.  BHP'S VITAL HEALTH PROFILE. SO  THAT'S HOW WE MAKE SURE  THEY'RE MAKING CONTACT WITH  DOCTOR AN ANNUAL BASIS WE  INCENTIVIZE THEM TO TAKE  PROFILE AND THEN THEY HAVE TO  FOLLOW IT UP WITH A VISIT TO  THE DOCTOR. SO WE MAKE THAT  CONNECT AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR  WITH WITH ALL THOSE PLACE AND  WE HAVE OVER 80% STATION THAT.  PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED VISIT  HELPS IN ARKANSAS, IT'S EVERY  YEAR. BUT BUT WE'RE AT LIKE I  SAID 98%.  >> EMPLOY SPECIALIST BECAUSE  ALL EMPLOYEES GOING TO THE  DOCTOR AND THEN THERE'S MANY  EMPLOYEES THAT GO TO THE  DOCTOR AND A REGULAR BASES,  YES, OKAY, SO THAT'S KIND OF  WHERE I WAS YOU KNOW, YEAH  ASIDE FROM THE YEARLY  REQUIREMENT FOR HEALTH  INSURANCE, I'M SURE SIMILAR TO  WHAT WE HAVE YET TO BOTH  CHECKUP KIND OF THING. YOU'RE  THAT YOU SOUTH WHATEVER  WHATEVER YOU NEED TO GET YOUR  PRESCRIPTIONS FILLED. KNOW  WHAT ABOUT AN IDEA OF HOW MANY  TIMES PEOPLE HAVE USED THE  SCENT. YES NOW WE TRACK ON A  MONTHLY BASIS, I GET A REPORT  IN TERMS OF.  >> OUR TARGET IS TO HAVE 85%  FEEL WE'RE ABOVE THAT BUT I  ALSO GET ATTRACTING UNIQUE  CHRISTMAS. I DON'T GET  INDIVIDUAL IS THAT'S WE DON'T  WANT TO TREAD INTO TO GET  RIGHT. BUT I GET UNIQUE THAT  1000 AN INDEPENDENT WELL. I  CAN TELL YOU THE OVERALL  NUMBERS PERCENTAGES WOULD BE  TOUGH.  >> COMING HOW MANY  >> I DON'T HAVE IT FOR ME  RIGHT NOW I AM DON'T THINK  BASES ITS I WANT TO SAY ABOUT.  >> 600 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS,  MOSTLY NOW. WHAT MAKES  SOMEBODY UNIQUE WITH STOP. OK  SO WE HAVE 3,000 APPOINTMENTS.  SO IT'S LIKE IT MAY BOTH  APPOINTMENTS. BY THE SAME  PERSON. THINK WE HAVE ABOUT  600 EMPLOYEES. EACH MONTH,  UNIQUE EMPLOYEES AND ABOUT  ANOTHER 300 AND THEN  >> FROM MEMORY SO THAT'S WHY  JUST TO GIVE ME A 100 OF THEM  USAGE MONTHLY OF WHO ACTUALLY  USE. SO THAT'S JUST TRACKING  AND I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO  THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY  GET THEIR OWN DATA SEPARATELY.  >> I KNOW OVERALL APPOINTMENTS  AND ALL OVERALL PARTICIPATION  BUT. THAT'S OUR BOYS.  >> THINK I WORKING ON MY TIME  HERE SO I'LL YIELD FOR SECOND.  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  >> COMMISSIONER RIDGE TO HAVE  QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. YES  MAYOR.  >> HYPOTHETICALLY LET'S THAT  WE WENT TOGETHER AND WE GOT  THE AGREEMENT WAS CHARLOTTE  COUNTY. AND WE WANT TO MOVE  FORWARD WITH USING THIS HEALTH  CARE CENTER. THEY CURRENTLY  HAVE 2 SITES THAT ARE OPEN.  WOULD WE BE ENTITLED TO USE  THOSE 2 SITES UNTIL WE HAVE  OUR OWN LOCATION OR WOULD WE  HAVE TO HAVE THE LOCATION IN  PLACE BEFORE WE COULD UTILIZE  THE SITE UNDER THE MUTUAL  AGREEMENT.  >> I THINK COMMISSIONER ALL  JUMP FIRST WHEN WE LOOK AT IT.  FOR LEE COUNTY STATION SCORED  JUST GO WITH IT.  >> THERE OVER.  >> YOU THAT 80% RIGHT NOW SO  CONCERN WOULD BE IF THERE'S  NOT.  >> THE SPACE AND THOSE  SENATORS. THE CITY'S  POPULATION, SO I THINK THAT IN  ORDER TO DO NEED ALL COME  ONLINE AND TIME.  >> OKAY WHAT WHAT YOU TOLD US  IN A PRESENTATION WAS OUR  COSTS WERE APPROXIMATELY ONE  0.2 MILLION TO STAFF IT THAT  DID NOT INCLUDE THE FACILITY.  FACILITIES IF WE LEAST ONE US  ONE BUT IF WE GO TO BUILD ONE.  WE'RE TALKING MILLIONS OF  DOLLARS AND AND BUDGETARY  ITEMS AND NOT THAT'S THAT'S  QUITE A BIG MIGHT POSSIBLY. MY  OTHER QUESTION WAS I KNOW YOUR  COST OF STAGGERED EVER SENT  YOU STARTED THIS FOR THE  EMPLOYEE. NOW IF WE WERE TO GO  AHEAD AND THIS PROBABLY WOULD  BE FOR A JOB, I'M NOT SURE.  BUT DOWN THE ROAD ARE  INSURANCES CONSTANTLY GONE UP  EACH YEAR AND THE CITY HAS  ABSORBED THE CAUSE AND  BASICALLY LET EMPLOYEE PAY  THEIR PORTION. BUT AS THIS  BALL GETS ROLLING COULD THERE  BE A POSSIBILITY OF COST  REDUCTIONS GIVE THE EMPLOYEES  GOING FORWARD, I KNOW NOTHING  EVER GOES DOWN. BUT IF WE  START SEEING A SIGNIFICANT  SAVINGS COULD WE PASS ALONG TO  THE EMPLOYEE.  >> YEAH, I WOULD ANSWER WHO IS  GOING FROM THE FIRST THING IS  AND YOU ABOUT NEVER GO AND I  THINK. I'M ALWAYS HESITANT TO  SET AN EXPECTATION THAT  SOMETHING'S GOING TO GO DOWN  BUT WHEN THEY THINK HAS BEEN  EVIDENCE BY CHARLOTTE COUNTY  PROBLEM WHEN THEY GO DOWN AS  THE HOPING AND WHEN YOU LOOK  AT IT INFLATION. YOU LOOK AT  SOME OF THE SOMETHING THAT'S  NOT INCREASING OVER A 10 YEAR  PERIOD. IT BECOMES A SMALLER  PART OF YOUR EXPENDITURES TIME  YOU KNOW SENSE IS GOING OUT  AND THAT RIGHT THERE. ALL OF  YOU KNOW THEY ARE END NUMBER  BUT IF YOU'RE SPENDING YOU  KNOW SENATOR AYOTTE. CARE AND  10 YEARS LATER SPENDING THE  SAME THING THAT YEAR. YOUR  SHOWERS GOT UP THAT PERCENTAGE  GOES RIGHT SO WE'RE WE'RE  GIVING EMPLOYEES BENEFIT THE  SENSE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO  SPEND MONEY ON HEALTH CARE  WHICH GIVES THEM MORE MONEY  SOMETHING ELSE IT'S SORT OF  LIKE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF A  RAISE THAT REGARD.  >> I SORRY MISTER ARMITAGE I  THIS DELAY HAS SOMETHING FOR  YOU  >> YES COMMISSIONER WANT TO TO  ADDRESS YOUR FIRST QUESTION A  LITTLE BIT. SO OUR THOUGHT  PROCESS FROM STAFF'S  PERSPECTIVE IS TO START BY  RENTING SPACE AND NOT FACILITY  IN THE SHORT TERM THAT WOULD  BE MORE OF A LONG-TERM GOAL.  AND SECONDLY WITH REGARD TO  COSTS WITH RESPECT TO THE ONE  0.1 MILLION SAVINGS VERSUS  WHAT SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS MAY  BE OUR HUMAN DEPARTMENT WE'LL  WORK MISTER FLEMING AND OUR  FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND WORK  WITH THE FUND AND SEE HOW  THOSE COSTS WILL BE ADDRESSED.  I JUST WANTED TO TO ADD THAT  TO ANSWER ON THE FIRST  QUESTION.  >> I YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND  WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING,  SIR, YOU KNOW IT LOOKS VERY  GOOD. I MEAN I HAD A  ONE-ON-ONE BEFORE YOU KNOW I'M  ALL IN FAVOR OF COST ALL IN  FAVOR OF GETTING THIS PUT IN  PLACE FOR THE EMPLOYEE. I JUST  WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE  GO FORWARD AT ALL NUMBERS ARE  OUT THERE AND WHAT THE  POSSIBILITIES ARE MATTER  THAT'S THAT'S ALL THE  QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YES, AND  JUST I HAD IT. QUESTION AND  SCULLY MENTIONED THAT RENT IS  IS WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT  FIRST YEAR THEIR 1.2 MILLION  THAT FOUND OUT THERE THAT THE  THE RENTAL I HE AND OF MISTER  PLEMMONS HAVE THAT TO BE  DETERMINED AS TO  >> YOU KNOW AGAIN TO CONSULAR  WHERE GET ON WITH THAT YOU  KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ABLE TO FIND  THAT NUMBER COULD. BECAUSE  THERE SIGNIFICANTLY. THE OTHER  THING YOU KNOW TO  THE BUILDING NOW. SO THE  SECTION OF IT AND DON'T CORDON  HELP PUT ON THE SPOT HE COULD  JUMP IN BUT. YOU KNOW BUILT A  STAND-ALONE BUILDING FOR  TYPICALLY WHAT THAT IS LOOKS  LIKE IT IS.  >> IF YOU'RE BUILDING TO  BUILDING OR RENOVATING  BUILDING GOING TO HAVE THAT  EXPENSE FOR.  >> BUT YOU HAVE THE SPACE TO  SAY HEY LET'S CARVE OUT YOU  KNOW 2000 SQUARE, THE AND WE  BUILD OUT THIS FACILITY  STRUCTURE THIS TO BE CLINIC SO  WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW. FOR  CONCRETE BUILDING HEALTH  CENTER SOMEWHERE WE'RE TAKING  A BUILDING THAT YOU EITHER  HAVE OR IS GOING TO BE BUILT  ANYWAY AND WE'RE WE'RE  ALLOCATING SPACE AND THAT FOR  THAT WHICH I THINK THAT  POTENTIAL COSTS SO YOU STILL  DOING THAT ANYWAY. THAT'S JUST  HOW YOUR STRUCTURE. AND THAT'S  EXACTLY WHAT WE  >> WE'RE BUILDING A NEW HUMAN  SERVICES BUILDING AND SO WE  ADDED. YOU KNOW 3,000 SQUARE  FEET ONTO IT TO ACCOMMODATE  ANOTHER BUILDING IN AND KIND  OF ORDER THAT WAS WE YOU KNOW  NEW BUILDING OUT OF IT. OKAY.  >> AND YOU CHARLOTTE COUNTY  AND I KNOW WE HAD A  CONVERSATION BUT I'M SORRY  MIND THAT AND THAT'S WHY  COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH A  PART OF NOTE THAT HAD  CONVERSATIONS SCHOOL  DISTRICTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT  PART  OF IT THAT THAT BECAUSE THEY  HAVE THEIR OWN. YES, YEAH  RIGHT AND I DID REALLY IT IS  AS BEING A CHARLOTTE COUNTY  SCHOOL TEACHER WE HAD HAVE A  PLANNING AND I JUST WANT TO  SPEAK OUT THAT THAT WAS SUCH  GREAT THING TO HAVE A MAINLY  BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULED  APPOINTMENTS THAT YOU'RE GIVEN  THAT TIME SLOT.  >> AND THAT REDUCED.  >> EMPLOYEE WHEN YOU GO.  >> FOR DOT DEPARTMENT SITTING  THERE FOR SO LONG SOMETIMES.  AND THEY REALLY STICK TO THAT  SCHEDULE. IT WAS A VERY SHORT  WINDOW HERE LIKE I WELL AS 5  OR 8 MINUTES LIKE THAT THAT  YOU'RE HERE THEY'RE NOT GOING  TO SEE YOU SO.  >> I KNOW THE VALUE OF  >> FACILITY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES  AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY  THE EXTENT OF MY QUESTIONS  RIGHT.  >> NOW. OKAY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON.  >> THANK YOU MAYOR, I ONLY  HAVE ONE FOLLOW-UP I'M  PARTICULARLY INTERESTED  ♪ IN WELLNESS ASPECT OF THE  HEALTH CENTER. WHAT KINDS OF  WELLNESS PROGRAMS DO YOU OFFER  AND THIS IS REALLY A TWO-PART  QUESTION. OUR HUMAN RESOURCES  DEPARTMENT OFFERS A NUMBER OF  WELLNESS PROGRAMS FOR  EMPLOYEES AND SO HOW WILL THEY  IMPACT EACH OTHER HOW WELL  THEY COORDINATE. THE APPROACH  WE TOOK WE ATTEMPTED TO YOU OR  YOU HAVE YOU KNOW A  >> WE DID NOT AND WE GET  TEMPTED TO BRING SOMEBODY I  HAVE BEEN WORKING  >> SON DIDN'T GET WELL WE  ACTUALLY DO IS WE CONTRACT FOR  OUR WELLNESS COORDINATOR  THROUGH MY HEALTH ON SITE. NO  ONE KNOWS THAT EVERYONE THINKS  SHE'S A COUNTY BOY JUST COUNTY  OFFICE. 2 REPORTS DIRECTLY TO  ME. WE TREAT HER LIKE A COUNTY  EMPLOYEE EVERYBODY IN THE  ORGANIZATION LOVE SERVICE LIKE  I'M SURE THEY LOVE YOUR YOUR  WELLNESS BUT WHAT IT'S  TREMENDOUS BENEFIT THERE AGAIN  IS HAVING THE DATA ALSO HAVING  THAT CONNECTION. SHE CAN WORK  DIRECTLY WITH OUR DOCTORS TO  MAKE SURE DOCTORS KNOW WHAT  PROGRAMS WE HAVE AVAILABLE.  THE HEALTH CENTER PROVIDES  NUTRITIONAL SUPPORT PHYSICAL  YOU KNOW, I MULTIPLE SERVICES  LIKE THAT IF YOU CONSIDER HIM  TOO. BUT ALSO ALL THE PROGRAMS  THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR  INSURANCE PROVIDER THAT ARE  AVAILABLE THROUGH ARI SHE CAN  MAKE THE DOCTORS AWARE OF AND  THE DOCTORS CAN SHARE FOR  INSTANCE. MOTTO. YOU ARE  INSURED PROVIDER WE HAVE  ACCESS TO A PROGRAM CALLED  MODEL WHICH IS UP THE  DIABETES.  WE HAD. DOCTOR'S STEERING  PEOPLE AND JUST WE HAD OVER  300 PEOPLE IN OUR ORGANIZATION  SIGN UP ON A MOTTO.  >> I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT A.  >> MOST RECENT DISCUSS ALL  WERE ABOUT 70% PARTICIPATE  CONTINUED TO PARTICIPATION AND  LAST BECAUSE I SAW OR ABOUT  OVER 3,000 POUNDS LOSS. SO THE  BACK OF THE DOCTORS ARE  ENGAGED IN THIS AND CONNECTED  TO OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM. BUT  THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT THAT  THAT ANNUAL BHP. HAVING  EMPLOYEES SEND MY SON TAKE  THAT. AND WE GET THEM INTO THE  DOCTOR. SO THEY'VE GOT AN  INCENTIVE TO PARTICIPATE IN  WELLNESS PROGRAM.  >> AND NOW THOSE WELLNESS  PROGRAMS ARE AT NO COST TO THE  EMPLOYEE THERE UNDER THE  UMBRELLA THE HEALTH CENTER.  CURRENTLY NOT THAT'S OKAY.  THANK YOU.  >> THAT SAID DO WANT TO SURE.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YEAH,  SPEAKING FROM CITY'S WELLNESS  PROGRAM. IT IS PHENOMENAL. I  PARTICIPATED IN SINCE BECAME  AND IT IS A PHENOMENAL PROGRAM  OPEN TO US EVEN THOUGH WE'RE  LEFT YOU KNOW THEY THEY HAVE A  WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT  THINGS SOME THINGS I  PARTICIPATED RELIGIOUS LEE  OTHER THINGS NOT SO MUCH SO  HATS OFF TO STAFF ON THAT  WELLNESS PROGRAM AND IF I  REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT'S PAID  THROUGH THROUGH. SO IT'S NOT  LIKE THE TAXPAYERS FOR ONE OF  THE ONE OF THE THINGS. I I USE  PIT AND A HALF. SO IS FOR  THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT  FAMILIAR WITH THAT IT'S MORE  OF A CONCIERGE DOCTOR PROGRAM.  OF COURSE I HAVE INSURANCE  THROUGH CITY. I HATE HAVING TO  GO TO THE DOCTOR AND A 10  O'CLOCK APPOINTMENT AND AT  11:30AM STILL WAIT. IT'S  RIDICULOUS. I HATE HAVING TO  DEAL WITH ALL THE INSURANCE  AND FILING IT AND HAVING TO GO  TO THIS PERSON KNOW YOU CAN'T  GO TO THAT PERSON UNTIL YOU.  >> SEE DOCTOR AND GET A LITTLE  SHEET THAT SAYS HEY YOU CAN  GET GO SEE THAT SPECIAL.  >> TO ME THAT IS NOT HEALTH  CARE THAT IS EXTREME STRESS ON  ANYBODY HAVING TO DEAL WITH  THAT AND THEN HAVING TO DO  WITH AL PAYS AND ALL STUFF. SO  UNDERSTAND THE VALUE BECAUSE I  CAN EASILY EQUATED TO ONE UP  IF YOU NEED HELP OFFERS ME. I  HAVE GREAT DOCTORS. I'M NOT  TREATED LIKE CATTLE WHEN THEY  GO IN YOU GOT 2 MINUTES.  >> 2 MINUTES.  >> I CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A  CONVERSATION WITH THE DOCTOR  AND AND THEY CAN GO YOU ARE  AND IT'S LIKE IT WAS WHEN I  WAS A HIT. YOU KNOW WHEN WHEN  HEALTH CARE WAS HEALTH CARE.  BUT THERE'S A COST TO IT. AND  I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL  BE SAVINGS. THE BIGGEST THING  I'M HAVING A HARD TIME THE  TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THIS  100%. THERE'S THERE'S NO YOU  KNOW LIKE. YOU WANT TO GO IT'S  $5 OR YOU WANT  >> YOU NEED A RESTRICTION  BECAUSE PRESCRIPTION SOME OF  THEM ARE EASY PEASY YOU CAN  GET YOU KNOW AND THE COUNCIL  AND BUY SOMETHING AND THOSE  EASY KIND OF PRESCRIPTIONS BUT  WHEN YOU HAVE FORMULARIES THAT  ARE QUOTE IN-DEPTH AND I HAVE  A FRIEND WHO'S A PHARMACIST,  AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT  I KNOW THERE DIFFERENT LEVELS  FORMULARIES AND THEY CAN BE  VERY EXPENSIVE DOES NOT HAVE  THEY ARE NOT. I'M HAVING A  HARD TIME WITH THAT SO. SO ME  AND THAT PART OF IT BECAUSE  THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR  THEY DON'T GET THE BENEFIT.  THE EMPLOYEES ARE AND  TAXPAYERS ARE ALREADY PAYING  FOR A PORTION OF THEIR SO.  >> WELL WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS  IS IS.  >> I GO FOR COMMISSIONERS  EVERY YEAR TO DEMONSTRATE IT.  IT IS BETTER GET TAX PAYERS  BECAUSE OVERALL THAT FLAT  TREND LINE MEANS LESS TAX  DOLLARS GOING TOWARDS HEALTH  CARE COSTS AND GOING TOWARDS  SOMETHING ELSE. SO. YES,  EMPLOYEE SAVING MONEY, BUT  YOUR SAVING MONEY ALSO. BY BY  REROUTING THOSE  PHARMACEUTICALS THROUGH THE  HEALTH CENTER AS OPPOSED TO  PAYING FOR THEM INSURANCE PLAN  BELIEVE IT OR NOT YOU'RE  ACTUALLY GETTING THEM MUCH  MUCH CHEAPER THAN YOU WOULD  PAY FOR YOUR PORTION THROUGH  THE HEALTH CARE PLAN. THAT'S  WHERE WE SAVE THE MONEY AND AS  I SAID IF THEY GO TO OUR  DOCTOR AS OPPOSED TO A DOCTOR  I YOU A DOCTOR IN THE ABOUT AT  THE NETWORK. THERE'S A $100  SAY $110 SAVINGS EVERY TIME  THEY CALLED HEALTH CENTER AS  OPPOSED TO SO THOSE SAVINGS  YOU MIGHT ADD UP AND PAY FOR  THAT. 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS. I  CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT FROM THE  VERY FIRST YEAR. THAT WE SAVED  MORE MONEY AND WHAT WE SPEND  AND THAT'S WHY OUR INCREASES  AT A 2%. RE AS OPPOSED TO YOU  KNOW INDUSTRY STANDARD OF YOU  KNOW. 6% ON  >> COMMISSIONER STERN ALSO  WANT IT TO BE DETERMINED  FACTORS AS THE SPACE OR THE  FACILITY. THE AVERAGE. ANNUAL  LEASE PER SQUARE FOOT IS ABOUT  12 $20 IN PORT. LET'S SAY WE  NEED TO 20. DOLLARS NUMBER SO  THAT WOULD BE QUICK TO 4 2200  SQUARE FOOT FACILITY. ABOUT  $44,000 A YEAR. THE LEAST THAT  SPACE FOR 22 MONTHS FOR ME  JUST GIVE YOU KIND OF  PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU  KNOW ONE 0.2 MILLION DOLLAR OF  COSTS OR ANNUAL ALSO YOU  PROBABLY HAVE A CAUSED. THAT'S  RIGHT. WE WITH ABOUT $45,000.  NOW GIVE OR TAKE GO BILL LESS  BUT WITH THAT JUST KIND EXPECT  RIGHT.  >> COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW I.  HEARD KIND OF A CALL IT A  HORROR IT IN THE INSURANCE NOT  ONE OF OUR CLIENTS, THE SCHOOL  THE YOU SOMETHING 1000  EMPLOYEES. YOU NEED A 50%  INCREASE TO THEIR HOUSE. I  DON'T KNOW THE SPEND ON THEIR  PLAN. BUT I'M SURE IT'S OVER A  100 MILLION DOLLARS.  50 MILLION DOLLARS THAT.  ULTIMATELY THE TAXPAYERS ARE  BARRED FROM GOING PAY THAT  PARTICULAR COUNTY. RIGHT SO AS  I LOOK AT IT EVERYTHING GORTON  EITHER WAY. BILL WHETHER IT  HAPPENS ON YOUR HEALTH PLAN.  HALF YOUR HEALTH PLAN A NECK  AND COMBINATION. GORDON SAID  IT'S BEEN LOWER. YOU KNOW  LET'S JUST SAY IT WAS ONE FOR  100, BUT GUESS WAS A LIE.  RIGHT OR NOT SPENDING ANY MORE  MONEY OVER THE LONG TERM ONCE  BILITY IS A PUN AND RUNNING SO  ULTIMATELY IT FEEL THAT. THE  TAX BURDEN PER SE IS GOING TO  BE THE SAME. YOU KNOW WITH OR  WITHOUT THAT. YOU KNOW WITH  THE CLINIC AND THEN YOU HAVE  THAT RISK THAT WITHOUT IT THAT  IT'S GOING TO BE  SIGNIFICANTLY. SO THAT THAT  THE WAY WE SORT OF LOOK AT IT  IS IT'S EITHER GOING TO HAPPEN  IN THE MEDICAL PLAN. IT'S  GOING TO HAPPEN IN THAT THE  HOUSE ENTERING THE MEDICAL  PLAN WHICH WE KNOW IT'S GOING  TO BE LOWER COST. SO TO THE  POINT YOU KNOW THE SECOND PART  OF THAT IS WELL THE EMPLOYEES  ARE PAID TO GO TO THE HEALTH  CENTER. SO HOW DO TOP ABOUT  HOUSE THAT PERCEPTION ON THAT  AND I YES A LOOK AT A COUPLE  POCKETS RIGHT THE FIRST THING  IS WE'VE GOT A HUGE PERCENTAGE  OF THE POPULATION RIGHT NOW  THAT NO RELATIONSHIP WITH THE  DOCTOR.  ♪ AND I BEFORE THE HEALTH CENTER  THAT WAS TRUE  ♪ AS WELL WHAT WITH THE COUNTY  RIGHT. THEY DON'T HAVE THAT  RELATIONSHIP SO. ARE POTENTIAL  CATASTROPHIC CLAIMS THAT  NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THAT WE'RE  TRYING PREVENT THE SECOND  LET'S SAY YOU KNOW I HERE FROM  EMPLOYEES ARE AND HOW THE  DOCTOR I LIKE ALL. ALL I'M  GOING TO GO TO THAT HEALTH  CENTER. THEY MAY HAVE THAT  RELATIONSHIP BUT THEY'RE  WAITING A LONG TIME AND NOT  GET INTO DISCUSSIONS SO A  FINANCIAL INCENTIVE. POSTURE  TO GO IS WHAT IS GOING  ALTERNATELY GET PEOPLE TO  CONSIDER AND PUSHED OUTSIDER.  THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE  GOING TO GET THAT SECOND LEVEL  OF ENGAGEMENT FOR THOSE PEOPLE  THAT MAY BE DUE. THEY BARELY  HAVE A RELATIONSHIP YOU NEED  THAT FINANCIAL INCENTIVE. WE  GET PEOPLE IN THERE OVER THE  LONG TERM. YOU KNOW IF IF SOME  INDIVIDUALS LIKE WELL ALL  SENATORS START TO HAVE SOME  COST SHARE MAYBE YOU KNOW THE  PHARMACY WE ARE LOOKING AT  CENTRAL CAUTIOUS FOR THE  RETAIL. YOU KNOW, SO THERE IS  SOME BURDEN ON EMPLOYEES SO  IT'S 100% FREE RIDE UP, BUT WE  DO WANT THE INCENTIVE TO BE  THERE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT  WE'RE SAVING SO MUCH MONEY  WHEN THEY GO SO.  >> KNOW THAT HELPS A LITTLE  BUT THAT IS CAN ASK QUICK  FOLLOW-UP  >> IF I HAVE A I PORT  EMPLOYEE.  >> IN MY MANDATED TO GO TO THE  HEALTH CENTER PRIOR TO  BUILDING TO ANYWHERE ELSE IS  IT ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM  MANDATORY.  >> NOT AT ALL MANDATORY GREAT  QUESTION BUT SO WE DO NOT OUT  YOU KNOW ANY OF OUR CLIENTS  THAT HAVE HAVE MANDATORY  ATTENDANCE AND THE WE DO A LOT  IT. STRONGLY INCENTIVIZED  DOING LIKE A COURT HALT THE  VHP WHICH IS PROFILE DO YOU AT  LEAST GET IN THERE AND GET  ENGAGED AND SEE WHAT IT'S  LIKE. SO PROBABLY SET OF EYES  THAT AT LEAST ONE ENCOUNTER  YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR LAPS  AND SOME OF THOSE BUT YOU KNOW  REQUIRED TO YOU KNOW GO THERE  ARE YOU SURE INSURANCE OR  AVENUE CARE. ALL RIGHT THING  AND AGAIN GOES BACK TO WHY WE  DO WHAT THE COST EMPLOYEE  BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO  MOTIVATE.  >> APPRECIATE THAT WAS ONE OF  BIGGEST QUESTIONS BECAUSE IF  YOU'RE GOING TO MANDATE IT'S  LIKE. THAT'S ALL I AT THIS  KNOW THAT THAT WAS A  >> ACTUALLY COMMISSION WITHOUT  A 5. IT'S A GREAT OPTION. TO  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> YEAH JUST MAKE A FEW  COMMENTS IF WE'RE READY FOR  THEM. THAT YOU HAVE ANYTHING  ELSE. NOW YOU'RE GIVING OUT  SOME INFORMATION THERE AND. OK  THANK YOU MAYOR. I I WHEN I  AND TO THE SITTING DOWN WITH  THE FOLKS FROM HUMAN  RESOURCES. I WAS NOT AN  ADVOCATE APPLY. SO IT WHAT IS  THIS KIND OF OF ATTITUDE AND  IT DID A GREAT JOB OF GIVING  ME SOME BASICS AND AGAIN I  REALLY APPRECIATE YOU  GENTLEMAN COMING PARTICULAR  ARE YOU GOING CAUSE YOU'RE OUR  CASE STUDY BUT DOWN.  >> AND AND I REALLY LIKED THE  PART WE'RE NOT CENTER WOULD BE  PART OF A NETWORK. WE HAVE A  LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN  WORKING. BUT CHARLOTTE VICE  VERSA POTENTIALLY MAKES ACCESS  JUST SO MUCH EASIER. FOR  PEOPLE. AND AND I WOULD THINK  TO AT LEAST WITH THE  PHARMACEUTICALS THAT THEY  WOULD BE GREAT POTENTIAL  ECONOMIES OF SCALE AS WE HAVE  MORE AND MORE. I AM VOLUMES  FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I'M  ALSO A BIG PROPONENT OF  ENCOURAGING WELLNESS. SO  HAVING EASY ACCESS TO DOCTOR  IS IT'S JUST A TERRIFIC THING  AND MY BOOK. I REALLY LOOK TO  A LOT OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN  THE CITY AND THE PROVIDER TO  SORT OF INTEGRATE THOSE  WELLNESS PROGRAMS AND AS MUCH  AS WE CAN EXPAND WELLNESS  PROGRAMS WITHOUT INCREASING  COSTS CITY AND MAYBE THERE  EVEN SOME PROGRAMS WHERE  RUNNING NOW THAT COULD BE MORE  EFFICIENTLY RUN THROUGH THE  HEALTH CENTER. SO I THINK THAT  KIND OF WORK. IF IF THE  RESULT. THE INTENTION IS NOT  JUST COST SAVINGS BUT REALLY  IMPROVING THE GENERAL HEALTH  OF OUR EMPLOYEES I THINK  THAT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT TO  KEEPING COSTS DOWN. I ALSO  LIKE THE FACT THAT FOLKS WHO  ARE COST SENSITIVE AND ARE  PARTICIPATING AND OUR. PLANS  WITH VERY HIGH DEDUCTIBLES I  MEAN THEY WILL SAVE A LOT OF  MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKETS AND  I THINK THAT'S A TERRIFIC.  THANK ME. AND I SHARE I KNOW  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  MENTIONED THIS I DON'T KNOW IF  OTHERS BEING ABLE TO SPEND UP  TO 40 MINUTES WITH A DOCTOR, I  DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD SAY IN  40 MINUTES, I'M SO USED TO THE  68TH MINUTE REVOLVING DOOR.  >> AND I'M NOT A HUGE TALKER  ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE GREAT  AND I JUST REALLY LIKE THE  IDEA TEAMING UP WITH WHAT  CHARLOTTE. I HAD THE  OPPORTUNITY TO CHAT WITH ONE  OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS TO GET  HIS INSIGHTS ON WHAT HE  THOUGHT ABOUT THE PLAN AND HE  SO. IT'S TERRIFIC. I DON'T  KNOW WHO SORT OF INITIATED  THIS I GUESS IT WAS ALWAYS A  BEE IN THE BONNET HUMAN  RESOURCES HERE AND NOT POOR, I  THINK IT'S TERRIFIC WAY TO GO.  THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ALL  RIGHT THANK COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL, YEAH, I WAS I.  >> I DON'T THINK COMMISSIONER  EMERICH WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN  WE WENT TO THE HEALTH'S  SELF-INSURANCE. AND I KNOW  DURING THE CONVERSATIONS WE  ASKED TO EXPLORE POSSIBLY  TEAMING UP WITH THE PITCHING  OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE WE  BRIEFLY TALKED EMPLOYEE HEALTH  CENTER. BECAUSE BECAUSE  BECOMING SELF-INSURED WAS SO  NEW TO ALL OF US WE WANTED TO  TAKE THESE LITTLE BABY STEPS  AND IT HAS PROVEN TO BE  EXTREMELY COST EFFECTIVE.  >> I  >> TOO WHEN I WALKED IN THERE,  I'M GOING OH MY GOSH WE'RE  GROWING GOVERNMENT EVEN MORE.  I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT.  >> BUT.  >> HEARING FROM MISTER BURR  AND AGAIN I'M REALLY GRATEFUL.  >> HEARING HOW SUCCESSFUL IT  IS AND HOW PROVE ANY COST  EFFECTIVE. THIS I'M A LITTLE  BIT READING THESE EAR. I  SINCERELY HOPE THE CITY WILL  KEEP SOME REALLY GREAT DATA TO  SHOW THAT THIS DEFINITELY.  DOING WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO  BE BECAUSE TOO OFTEN THE  INTENTIONS ARE GOOD STARTS OUT  WITH GREAT INTENTIONS AND THEN  IT. TAKES OFF AND BECOMES THIS  ALBATROSS AND I DON'T WANT  THAT TO BE THAT FOR OUR OUR  CITIZENS. I AM.  >> THE HUGE.  >> KNOWING THAT THE INCENTIVE  OF BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE  DOCTOR AND NOT HAVING TO PAY  FOR THAT OK. PHARMACY IN THE  IMAGING, I'M. I CAN'T SEE THAT  BEING NO-COST I REALLY FEEL  THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE  OF COST SHARING BECAUSE IF I  HAD TO GO GET IMAGE THROUGH MY  INSURANCE FIRST HAVE TO MEET  MY DEDUCTIBLE. BUT I STILL  NEED THE IMAGE SO I HAVE TO  PAY A 100%. BUT IF THERE'S A  COST SHARING COMPONENT WITH  IT. I THINK IT WILL HELP WITH  THE TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR  EVERYTHING. I'M LOOK FORWARD  TO SEEING HOPEFULLY HOW THIS  IS GOING TO TRANSITION. THE  OTHER THING IS I DO REALLY  LIKE TO KIND OF GO BACK TO A  QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER  LANGDON BROUGHT ON AND THAT  THE EMPLOYEES AND MISTER  BERGER I I NEVER EVEN KNEW  THAT YOU GUYS REQUIRED YOUR  EMPLOYEES HAVE INSURANCE OR  PROVES THAT THEY HAVE  INSURANCE. I'M CURIOUS HOW  MANY EMPLOYEES DO WE HAVE AND  THIS MIGHT INFORMATION  GATHERING FOR A FUTURE TIME.  BUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO WE  HAVE THAT DON'T MAY NOT CARRY  INSURANCE BUT POSSIBLY BE ON  SPOUSES AND SHIRT DO WE HAVE  THAT INFORMATION. MISTER MY WE  >> SO AND COULD HAVE LEAD SOME  OF YOUR WORRY. RIGHT NOW WE  ONLY HAVE 6.86 EMPLOYEES, I'M  SORRY. RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE  86 EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE WAIVED  MEDICAL INSURANCE. FOR I HAVE  A NUMBER HEAR 786 WITH THE  NUMBER WHO ARE TAKING OUR SO  OF THOSE 86. MOST OF THEM ARE  TRICARE OR THEY'RE UNDER THEIR  SPOUSE'S PLAN AND WE TALKED  ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT THE  OTHER DAY. THE CITY OF PORT.  WELL, ONE OF THE ONLY ENTITIES  THAT OFFER THE ONLY COST A 0%  FOR OUR BOYS. SO FAR POLICE  ARE WAITING THERE WAITING  BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT  THEY'RE WAITING BECAUSE  THEY'RE ON SOME OTHER PLAN  KNOW INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO  WAIVE INSURANCE AND LESS AND  THAT'S DON'T PAY FOR IT, IT'S  JUST THEM.  >> THANKS FOR QUESTION.  CHARLOTTE COUNTY DO YOU GUYS  OFFER. NO COST INSURANCE TO  EMPLOYEES. ONLY ONLY INSURANCE  ONLY IN PLACE.  >> NO.  >> WHAT WE HAVE IS IT WE HAVE  SEEN PLAN PLACE AND IT'S THE  SAME PLANS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE  SO WE WE HAVE NOT INCREASED  OUR RATES DURING THAT ENTIRE  TIME.  >> THEY EMPLOYEES CANNED WAVE  AND GIVE YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S  $1000 THAT THEY WAVE BUT IN  ORDER TO BUILD A WAY THEY HAVE  TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY HAVE  COVERAGE UNDER SOME OTHER. ALL  RIGHT.  >> THANK YOU FOR THAT I BE  KIND CURIOUS TO COMPARE AND I  THINK THIS WAS ONE OF MY  QUESTIONS I HAD SUBMITTED  AHEAD OF TIME OUR INSURANCE  WHAT COVER WHAT WE PAY  EMPLOYEES SLASH DEPENDENTS AND  WHAT THAT COST LOOKS LIKE  COMPARING TO CHARLOTTE COUNTY  BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY GIVING  THE EMPLOYEES THE BENEFIT OF  NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR  INSURANCE. AND THEN WE ALSO OR  A LOT OF DEPENDENT COVERAGE  FOR INSURANCE. SO SO IF WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT INCREASING  EMPLOYEE MORALE HOLY COW  THAT'S A HUGE INCENTIVE RIGHT  THERE IN ITSELF BECAUSE WE'RE  ALREADY DOING THAT WEARS ON  HERE IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY DOES  NOT.  >> I GO BACK TO WE NEED TO  HAVE SOME TYPE OF COST SHARE.  YES, ESPECIALLY FOR PHARMACY  CAN FOR IMAGING.  >> AND YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S  REALLY HARD TO COMPARE. AND  CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE THE  NUMBER IS A $30  >> SINGLE IS $50 A YEAR LATER  A MONTH. FAMILY IS 3.15.  >> AND THE ONLY THING SO THAT  AGAIN WHERE YOU KNOW TRYING TO  COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES SO  THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION  INCLUDES THE DENTAL AND VISION  INSURANCE. SO THE EMPLOYEES  ARE WANT TO 4 YEARS PUT UP A  LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SO IT'S  HARD TO THE DRAW THAT CLEAR  LINE BETWEEN ONE OF THE  BECAUSE YOU MAY GET ONE YEAH  OR THE OTHER SO IT'S. WHAT  CHARLIE COUNTY CHARGES OVERALL  IS RELATIVELY. WELL FOR THAT  SINGLE COVERAGE CONSIDERING.  AND YOU ONLY PAY 50%. $50 IS  ONLY PAY.  >> IF DON'T IT SO WE HAVE AN  ANNUAL AS PART OF OUR BHP. AND  YOU'LL AT AT THAT THAT $50  WEIGHT IN SEXUALLY.  >> YOU HAVE A REDUCED RATE WAY  WE STRUCTURE SO ESSENTIALLY  IT'S IT'S FREE IF YOU PASS  >> I THINK WE HAVE A 10%  REDUCTION FOR WELLNESS CHECK  WHICH INCLUDES SMOKING.  >> THE THING OUR ED IS ON. WE  DIDN'T GO 2 CONTRACTING WITH  OUR IMAGING COMPANIES SAVE  EMPLOYERS MONEY WORKED OUT  THAT WAY. IT'S SAFE WANT. IT'S  A IT'S A TAXPAYER'S MONEY.  WHAT I PAY FOR A CAT SCAN.  THROUGH OUR INSURANCE PLAN  WERE NOT ONLY PAY. PERCENT OF  IT. WHAT IS 80% OF IT IS MUCH  MORE AND WHAT WE CONTRACT  DIRECTLY WITH OUR LOCAL  EMERGING COMPANIES TO PAY FOR  IT. I SAVE MONEY EVERY TIME AN  EMPLOYEE. SO THROUGH THE  HEALTH EVEN THOUGH THEY SAVE  MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT  PAYING A BENEFIT. I MONEY SET  OF EYES.  >> AND I'LL JUST ONE THING TO  THAT YOU SETTING THE ACTUAL  COSTS ASIDE ONE OF THE  PROBLEMS WE SEE INDUSTRY-WIDE  IT IS. OVER PERSCRIPTION PASS.  NOTHING IN U.S. AND EU FOR A  CT SCAN BECAUSE I PARTIALLY  ON.  >> 25% OWNERSHIP IN THE END  PRACTICE SO THERE'S THE DOLLAR  FOR DOLLAR SAVINGS.  >> BUT WHEN YOU KNOW WITH THE  HEALTH CENTER. THOSE PROVIDERS  DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL  INCENTIVE. RIGHT A HIGH COST  BRAND NAME DRUG BECAUSE  THEY'RE GETTING THE THAT FROM  THE MANUFACTURER THEY DON'T  HAVE THE MONEY OWNERSHIP IN  IMAGING CENTER THEY DON'T GET  OVER JOE. THERE ARE ONLY SENT  IF THEY REALLY NEED TO GO FOR  WHAT'S BEST FOR YOUR HELP. AND  THERE'S YOU KNOW THAT CAN'T BE  OVERLOOKED BECAUSE THERE'S  TREMENDOUS WASTE AND JUST OVER  YOU KNOW STATION AND THE  SYSTEM. THE HEALTH CENTER DOES  A LOT FOR A LOT OF THAT FOR  EMPLOYEES. ENTIRE HEALTH CARE  INDUSTRY IS COMPLETELY BROKE.  >> AND IT IS COMPLETELY BROKEN  AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN  REASONS THAT I USE EPIPHANY  HEALTH BECAUSE I COMPLETELY  AVOID ALL THAT IT'S WELL  WORTH. I $100 THAT I PAID  >> WE KNEW THAT COMING ALL  RIGHT CONVERSATION. JUST HAD  SOMETHING DAY IT SAYS IN HERE  UTILIZING FUNDS FROM BUDGET  SAVINGS COULD YOU JUST  ELABORATE IRATE BECAUSE THAT'S  WHAT WE WOULD USE GET THIS OFF  THE GROUND EARLY EVERY YEAR WE  WE GO IN PROJECTING A 10%  INCREASE. HOPEFULLY WE COME  UNDER THAT THIS YEAR WAS A  YEAR WE CAME WELL UNDER SO  THAT'S WHY OUR BROKER. AND HEY  YOU GUYS SHOULD REALLY GET  EWING SOMETHING NOW BECAUSE IT  IS YOU THE NUMBERS COME IN.  YOU KNOW AS FINANCES  PROJECTING THE BUDGET THEY  HAVE THEIR OWN DEADLINES AND  THINGS HAVE TO MEET.  >> THEY DON'T ALWAYS MATCH AND  WE WORK WITH OUR BROKER TO GET  THE NUMBERS TO PROTECT THINK  IT'S GOING TO 10%. I THINK IS  GENERALLY WHAT WE'VE WORKED  WITH AND SOMETIMES IT COMES IN  IT FOR YOU KNOW. ONE YEAR IT  WAS LAST EVEN HIGHER SO WE HAD  TO WORK TO FIND TO TRY TO  PROJECT THAT BUT IT SURE IS A  YEAR RIGHT.  >> SO THIS IS REALLY LOOKING  AT THIS AS A UNIQUE  OPPORTUNITY, YES. I THINK  THAT'S AN ISRAELI ARMY  SOMETHING THAT MAY NEVER COME  AGAIN HAVING RIGHT NOW AND I  THINK WE HAD OUR MEANING I CAN  I'M GOING IT WAS BUT IT WAS  YOU KNOW FOR EVERY ONE DOLLAR  THAT'S SPENT. INVESTING IN AND  THIS PROGRAM OR GETTING THIS  GOING OUT AND ONCE THE CLINIC  IS RUNNING THAT IS A $2  SAVINGS SO EVENTUALLY THAT  COMES BACK TO SAVING THE  TAXPAYERS MONEY BECAUSE ARE  PAYING A LOT LESS SO WHAT THIS  IS A AS A ONE-TIME OPPORTUNITY  FOR REALLY A LONG-TERM BENEFIT  THAT THAT WILL BE HERE FOR FOR  MANY YEARS TO COME SO. IT'S  IT'S GREAT THAT IT'S FINALLY  COMING TO THIS POINT AS I  LOOKING IN NOTES THIS WAS  DISCUSSED BACK IN 20. THINK  IT'S AT AND THEN AND THEN  CONTINUE THE EXPLORATION FOR  THE FUTURE WELL. THIS IS THE  FUTURE. OKAY. LET'S STOP GOING  BACK TO THE FUTURE I MISTER  AVERAGE DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING  TO CONCLUDE WITH.  >> MA'AM I JUST WANT TO SAY  THAT IT WAS A EXCELLENT  PRESENTATION LOT OF  INFORMATION LOOK FORWARD TO  SEE WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.  >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO  SAY THAT WE HAVE. WHAT DO YOU  GUYS NEED FROM US TO CONTINUE  THIS EFFORT.  >> JUST 2. WE WOULD DISCUSSION  POSSIBLE ACTION TO MOVE  FORWARD MILITARY PLANS FOR THE  ESTABLISHMENT AND FUNDING.  >> THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH CARE  CENTER UTILIZING FUNDS FOR BUT  BUDGET SAVINGS IN THE AMOUNT  OF 1 MILLION 1, 2, 4, 7, 7, 3,  THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2025  BUDGET.  >> OKAY WITH I'M GOING TO BE  WAY SHORTER THAN TYPICALLY AM.  BUT BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION SO  WE'RE GOING TO CALL FOR PUBLIC  OF MAKE THAT MOTION I MOVE TO  INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER TO WORK  WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP  PRELIMINARY PLANS FOR CREATING  AND IMPLEMENTING A HEALTH CARE  CENTER. THE EMPLOYEES OF THE  CITY PORTE.  >> WHEN AD AND UTILIZING THE  FUND WAS I DON'T THINK MY  SECOND.  >> OK SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY  COMMISSIONER.  >> LAND FOR TO MOVE FORWARD  WITH THE PLAN PLANS FOR THE  ESTABLISHMENT AND FUNDING OF  THE EMPLOYEE HELPED CARE  CENTER.  >> THAT PUT IN THERE THE  FISCAL YEAR. MORE DO YOU WANT  AND I DON'T THINK SO I THINK  IT'S A FACT ENOUGH FOR RIGHT  AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY ANDY  THANKS FOR  >> YES, LIKE TO SPEAK SO  COMMISSIONER LANGDON SHE WAS  MOST MAKE ONE SPEAK FIRST, I  AM A WOMAN FEW WORDS I'M NOT  IN LOVE WITH THE SOUND OF MY  OWN BUT NOR MY BUT I WANT TO  MAKE SURE EVERYBODY  UNDERSTANDS BECAUSE I USUALLY  VERY AGAINST KIND OF THINGS.  THE PRESENTATION TODAY  COMPLETELY CHANGE MY MIND AND  THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY  SPEAKING TO IT. I AGAIN THANK  YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR YOUR  PRESENTATION BEING HERE YOUR  YOUR PRESENTATION. I HAD A LOT  OF CONCERNS WALKING INTO TODAY  98% OF THEM WHERE THEY IT SO.  THANK YOU.  >> ALL RIGHT, SO THERE'S  NOTHING FURTHER WE WILL DO A  VOICE.  >> VICE VICE MAYOR MAYOR THE  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES ALL  RIGHT SO THAT PASSES 5 TO 0  GOOD DISCUSSION AND I'M  EXCITED ABOUT THIS THANK YOU.  >> YES.  >> MISTER CHAIR, I WOULD JUST  LIKE TO PERSONALLY. THANK EACH  OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR CITY  MANAGER OUR HUMAN RESOURCES  DEPARTMENT STAFF HAS BEEN  WORKING ON. THIS ALONG WITH  MANY MANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS  TO OUR OUR HEALTHCARE AND  WELLNESS FOR THE CITY'S  EMPLOYEES INSURANCE. AND ALSO  SANDY KNOWS OUR DIRECTOR  CHRISTINE MCDADE HER STAFF  SANDALS VICTORIA SENDING  CANNOT BE HERE TODAY, BUT SHE  HAS PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK  INTO THIS. DEPUTY CITY MANAGER  YARBOROUGH HAS BEEN WITH US  ALL THE WAY HELPING US AND  ESPECIALLY TO MISTER GORDON  BERGER AND FLEMING THEY HAVE  PUT IN COUNTLESS HOURS. MISTER  GORDON WAS KIND ENOUGH TO  ALLOW DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND  I PERSONALLY TAKE HER STAFF TO  GO VISIT THEIR SITE DOWN IN  PORT, CHARLOTTE AND REALLY  EXPLAIN WHAT HOW IT ALL WORKS  SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR  EVERYONE'S ASSISTANCE AND AND  SUPPORT ON THIS PUSH IT. THANK  YOU GUYS YEAH, REALLY DO  APPRECIATE GREAT. THANK YOU.  >> WANT TIME 5 CONTEND IF YOU  DON'T THE TIME WE AT 11  OK  SULLIVAN. THE CLOCK AND WE'RE  MOVING  >> WITH THE ITEM B. THESE ARE  MOVING TO THE ITEMS THAT WERE.  ON THE OTHER. 20 MORE 0, 8, 3,  6, CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR  ITEM.  >> YOU KNOW WE'RE DESIGNED  DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION YOU'RE  GOING TRANSITION THE CITY TO  WORK YOUR VIEW WE'RE GOING  TREAT THEY WERE GOING COME  CAMP WITH PROGRAM. AND I WANT  TO OUR PART TO REX DIRECTOR  SAID ARE TO TAKE TO I  >> GOOD MORNING. SANDY FROM  PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR  AND SO DURING A CITY  COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING ON  4/13/2015. THE COMMISSION  APPROVED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF  THE TRIBUTE PROGRAM TO SUPPORT  DONATIONS OF TREE BRANCHES AND  PAPERS WITHIN THE CITY PARK  SYSTEM. AT THE TIME THE  PROGRAM IS MANAGED BY THE  GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT  AND OPERATED BY THE PARKS AND  RECREATION DIVISION. ON THE  TREE PROGRAM AND ENABLES  RESIDENTS AND PATRONS TO  SUPPORT THE CITY OF NORTH PORT  PARK SYSTEM. THROUGH THESE  DONATIONS MAINLY OF THE.  PREVENTION PAVER BUT IT ALSO  ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY FOR  OTHER AFTER IT. STAFF  REQUESTING THAT THE TRIBUTE  PROGRAM TRANSITION FROM A  COMMISSION APPROVED PROGRAM TO  ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION THAT  WILL FACILITATE THE DONATION  OF A VARIETY OF FEATURES IN  MONUMENT WITH PURPOSE OF  ENHANCING THE CITY PARKS  FACILITIES AND OPEN SPACES AND  TRAILS. BENEFIT OF THE REVISED  TOUR ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION  INCLUDE. FACILITATE THE  PROGRAMS USE IN CONJUNCTION  WITH THE NEW PARK FEATURES  THAT ARE PLANNED FOR THE  CIRCLE OF HONOR MEMORIAL.  WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE  VETERANS PARK ADVISORY  COMMITTEE. IT WOULD ALLOW FOR  GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN  SELECTION OF PROGRAM MONUMENT.  ENSURE THE EXPENSES AND  ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS  RELATED TO THE TRIBUTE PROGRAM  ARE FULLY CAPTURED AND PAID  FOR BY THE DONOR. AND STREAM  ON THE MONUMENT MESSAGING WITH  THE INTENT TO AVOID ANY  DISCRIMINATION ON BEHALF OF  THE CITY RELATED TO THE  MONUMENTS. THAT'S REALLY CHALK  WITH THAT I CAN ANSWER  QUESTIONS.  >> ALL RIGHT. I LIKE THAT NOT  SHOP.  >> ALL RIGHT SO LET'S  ♪ HAVE SOME QUESTIONS HERE  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  ♪ >> SOMETHING WHILE. WHAT'S  THIS YEAH  >> SO SORRY. WHAT'S THE  SCHEDULE OF DONATION LEVELS  AND TRIBUTE TYPES SIMILAR  QUESTION THAT MIGHT BE THE  SAME QUESTION LIKE WELL WHAT'S  THE AVERAGE COST PER  TRANSACTION SO THE AVERAGE  SIZE THE DONATION. SO RIGHT  NOW IT'S RIGHT NOW WE HAVE  TEACHERS WE HAVE A BENCH THAT  THAT WE A PAPER THAT'S $50. WE  HAVE A TREE THAT'S $300. SO  THERE ARE. A COUPLE OPTIONS  FOR THE TREES PAPERS. IT'S  JUST THE PAPER AND THE BENCH  IS ONE THAT STOPPED FOR THE  PARK SYSTEM SO THAT IT'S  CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT. WHAT  WE'RE FINDING IS THAT THOSE  COSTS. HAVE REALLY RISEN. AND  THE SHIPPING ALONG AND SEND US  OVER. WHAT WE'RE COLLECTING  FROM THE DONOR. THIS PROGRAM  REALLY DESIGN WHERE WE'RE ONLY  CHARGING FOR ACTUAL COST OF  THE ITEM. PLUS THE PLOT. IN  WHATEVER IS DONE WITH THAT AND  THE STAFF TIME TO INSTALL AND  GENERAL MAINTENANCE OVER THAT  TIME PERIOD APPLIES SO IT'S  NOT SOMETHING WE'RE MAKING  MONEY ON THE PROGRAM, IT'S  JUST TOO. ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL  AMENITIES TO BE DONATED TO THE  PARK SYSTEM. WHAT WOULD BE  YOUR THOUGHTS IN TERMS OF JUST  COVERING OUR INITIAL COST SIDE  WE CAN PROBABLY LEAVE  MAINTENANCE OUT OF THAT FOR  NOW, BUT  ♪ JUST THE WHOLE INITIAL COST OF  THE TRANSACTION.  >> I YOU SUGGESTING INCREASING  HOW WOULD FEEL ABOUT THAT BUT  WITH THE NEW LEVELS LOOK LIKE.  >> WE'RE SUGGESTING TAKING THE  FEES OUT OF THE FEE SCHEDULE  SO THAT WE HAVE THAT  FLEXIBILITY THAT WOULD ALSO  ALLOW US WHEN SOMEBODY COMES  AND HAS A SUGGESTION FOR AN  ITEM THAT WE HAVE NOT  SPECIFICALLY PUT IN THE  PROGRAM BUT MAKES A LOT OF  SENSE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO  DO THAT THE PROGRAM AS IT IS  RIGHT NOW DOES ALLOW US TO  HAVE FLEXIBILITY. OUTSIDE OF  THE TREE BUNTION PAVER BUT  THEN THE THE SCHEDULE DOES NOT  HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE  WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ITEM  MIGHT RANT RIGHT.  >> DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT  THE NEW STRUCTURE MIGHT LOOK  LIKE FOR THESE 3 ITEMS WE  WOULD TRY AND KEEP IT. IT'S  VERY MUCH THE SAME. HANDLING  THIS PROGRAM AND THEN THE  INSTALLATION OF WHATEVER IT  IS. HOW MANY HOURS OF STAFF  TIME DOES THAT TYPICALLY TAKE  ON AVERAGE. YOU KNOW A COUPLE  HOURS OF STAFF TIME TIME WANT  TO BENCH WE HAVE ORDER  SOMEWHAT TAKE IT OUT TO THE  SITE AND THE TREE WE HAVE TO  ARRANGE TO HAVE DELIVERED.  >> AND STAFF WOULD MAINTAINING  THAT INITIAL PLANTING HAVERS  PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. OKAY,  THANK YOU THAT'S IT FOR ME.  >> ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> SO I WAS REVIEWING YOUR  PROPOSED POLICY.  >> AND YOU KEEP REFERRING TO  EVERYTHING IS A ONE NOT JUST  CALL IT A TRIBUTE BECAUSE THE  KIND THAT'S THE DEFINITION  THAT WAS USED IN THE  ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION THAT  MEAN. ATTORNEY YOU. AND THAT'S  THE RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE.  SEEMS KILLING YOU KNOW BECAUSE  MONUMENT YOU THINK IT YET IT  HAS A DEFINITION THE ONLY  THING IS. 2, 2, THINGS.  >> I LIKE THE FACT THAT.  >> WHEN WHEN A CITIZEN WANTS  TO CONTRIBUTE, LET'S SAY A  TREE. THERE'S A LIST OF  DIFFERENT TREES THAT CAN BE  IT'S STANDARD UNIFORMED AND  IT'S PLACED ON PUBLIC  PROPERTY. PENSION SAME THING  THEY'RE STANDARD THEIR  UNIFORMS PLACED ON PUBLIC  PROPERTY. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING  IN HERE.  >> THAT SAYS NO OUTSIDE.  TRIBUTES CAN BE PLACED ON CITY  PROPERTY. NOT UNDERSTANDING  OUTSIDE TRIBUTE. WE HAVE ONE.  ON CITY CENTER GREEN. THAT'S  WHAT I'M READY FOR IT. BECAUSE  IT'S IT'S NOT THROUGH THE  CITY'S TRIBUTE PROGRAM WAS  DONE AND I I DON'T THINK THAT  IS WHAT WE IN MY OPINION WE  NEED AND WANT THROUGHOUT THE  CITY IS EVERYBODY OWN LITTLE  SPECIAL BE PLACED ON CITY  PROPERTY.  >> THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING  YEAH.  >> THAT WAS ACTUALLY A  SEPARATE DONATION TO THE CITY.  OF THAT BUNCH. WE DON'T NEED  >> I I UNDERSTAND DOWN THAT  ROAD BUT I'M BUT IT'S UNDER  THE TRIBUTE WE WOULD WANT TO  HAVE THAT CONTROL MAKE SURE  THAT IT IS UNIFORM IN ALL OF  OUR PARKS. WHATEVER IS WE  WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THE  LANGUAGE THAT'S IN HERE THAT  THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS PROVIDED  ALLOWS A SPOT. HALL AND I  UNDERSTAND.  >> THAT WE WANT IT TO BE  UNIFIED AND CONTROL. BUT IN  THE INSTANCE WHERE SOMEBODY  WANTS TO MAKE THEIR DONATION  OF A TRIBUTE IS WHAT I'M  LOOKING FOR IS NOT BEING  PERMITTED. ON CITY PROPERTY  AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN  THERE LIKE THAT AND I DON'T  KNOW IF MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS  >> THE NECESSITY OF SOMETHING  LIKE THAT.  >> IN MY OPINION WE CAN'T HAVE  15 DIFFERENT TRIBUNE DIFFERENT  TYPES ON CITY PROPERTY. WE  HAVE A TRIBUTE PROGRAM FOR A  REASON.  >> CITY THAT'S LANGUAGE THAT  WE CAN IN THERE.  >> I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST  INCLUDING OUTSIDE OF THE. A  POLICY THAT WOULD ALLOW NON  GOVERNMENT REGULATED SPEECH  THE POLICIES PACKED IN SUCH A  WAY WHERE. THE SPEECH HAS  PERMITTED THROUGH BUT MESSAGES  ARE ON THE. CLASSROM THE  BENCHES BRITT SAYS CONTROL  GOVERNMENT SPEECH AND OUTSIDE  OF THAT. TOTAL MAY OPEN US THE  CITY UP TO A LOT ANY KIND OF I  WOULD THE VENTURE OUTSIDE THE  SCOPE OF THIS POLICY. WAS IN  PLACE  >> WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING  A TRIBUTE POLICY IF IT ANY  CITIZEN CAN COME IN AND SAY I  WANT TO PUT THIS VENTURE I  WANT TO PUT THIS. TREAT YOUR I  WANT TO PUT THIS LITTLE OR  WHATEVER ON CITY PROPERTY.  FAILING TO UNDERSTAND.  >> I'M NOT I GUESS I'M  UNDERSTANDING THAT WOULD NOT  BE ALLOWED INTO THIS IT WOULD  BE PERMITTED. BASE THOSE  KNOWN.  >> THINK THAT'S WHERE DOES IT  SAY THAT IN THE POLICY THE  POLICY PROVIDES WHAT IS WHAT  IS A LOUD BANG. OUTSIDE OF  THAT WOULD NOT BE.  >> THE TREES AND BENCHES.  >> I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY  IT'S ONLY A 5 YEAR. PERIOD.  CURRENTLY TREES AND BENCHES I  THINK 10 10 15. I I CAN'T  UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING PAY  USING TODAY'S. $300 PER TREE.  IT'S A 10 YEAR DONATION. BUT I  WOULD BE SPENDING $300 FOR 5  YOUR DONATION UNDER THIS NEW  POLICY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY  THE SHORTENED TIME FRAME.  >> WE WERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO  MAKE IT MORE REALISTIC WITH  THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE THAT'S  REQUIRED. CERTAINLY COULD  RENEW THAT UP TO 5 YEARS. BUT  THE IT TIME AND. THE STAFF  TIME IN THE COST OF THAT  MAINTENANCE OVER THAT TIME  WE'RE SHORTENING NOT.  >> THERE'S A MUCH MAINTENANCE  TO A TREE THAT'S PLAN ONCE  IT'S POINTED, I MEAN INITIALLY  THE FIRST YEAR ABSOLUTELY.  >> BUT AFTER THAT.  >> THERE IS  >> THERE IS A ONE-TIME  REPLACEMENT THAT CAN HAPPEN IF  THERE'S IF IT'S DAMAGED  EXAMPLE, HURRICANE WE HAD  TRIBUTE DONATIONS THAT HAD TO  BE COMPLETELY REPLACE SOME OR  TREES AND REPLACE TODD WE'VE  HAD TENSIONS THAT IT DAMAGED.  THERE IS ONGOING MAINTENANCE  AND IN ALL OF THEM. POSSUMS  MARCHED ON SOME THAN OTHERS  THERE IS THAT ONGOING COST. WE  WERE JUST TRYING TO LOOK  MOHSEN THAT LENGTH OF TIME  ALSO MAKE IT MORE WITH  INDUSTRY PRACTICE ON HOW LONG.  DONATIONS. ALONG LENGTHENS  CORRECT FOR A DONOR.  >> WITH IT CAN BE IT COULD BE  ANY NUMBER WE GIVE YOU WHAT WE  THOUGHT WAS THAT THE COURSE OF  ACTION. I.  >> NOT SEEN LANGUAGE ABOUT NOT  ALLOWING. THE TRIBUTES ARE  MONUMENTS OR WHATEVER. I SPY  PRIVATE ENTITIES IN HERE. BUT  I WILL JUST TOUGHER BECAUSE  IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE AND THERE  WAS NOTHING PREVENTING BEFORE.  AND I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING  PREVENTING TO GET THAT OUT A  LITTLE BIT. UP A LITTLE  SOMETHING EXTRA TO THAT THIS  POLICY SPECIFIC FOR THOSE  PROPERTIES. MANAGED BY PARKS  AND REC DEPARTMENT. SO  ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF PARKS REC  DEPARTMENT. WHEN COLIN OF THIS  UP THOSE PLACED ON A. A  DIFFERENT PROPERTY. NOT DIRECT  OUTSIDE THE SCOPE THIS ALSO.  OKAY. VICE MAYOR.  >> APOLOGIZES IF THIS  QUESTION'S BEEN ANSWERED  BEFORE, BUT I DO READING THIS  THIS AND WHAT WHY. WHY ARE WE  TRANSITIONED FROM. CITY  COMMISSION APPROVED PROGRAM TO  ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION. IF  THIS WAS COVERED BEFORE I  APOLOGIZE, BUT I CAN'T RECALL  THE EXPLANATION.  >> SO WE WANT WE WOULD LIKE TO  TAKE THE FEES OUT OF THE FEE  SCHEDULE SO WE HAVE MORE  FLEXIBILITY AND CAN APPLY THIS  TO FOR EXAMPLE, THE CIRCLE OF  HONOR TEENS. AND OTHER THINGS  THAT MAY BE DONATED TO THE  PARK. RECOMMENDED DONATIONS  THAT THE CITY WOULD PURCHASE.  BUT WE'D STILL LIKE TO HAVE A  POLICY THAT CONTROLS THE  PROGRAM SO IT GOES TO AN  ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY WHICH IS  CAUGHT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE  THROUGH COMMISSION. SO SINCE  THE INITIAL PROGRAM WAS  BROUGHT FORWARD TO COMMISSION.  PROPONENTS OF THE NEW PROGRAM  AND COMMISSION. APPROVED THE  ESTABLISHMENT THAT'S WHY WE'RE  BRINGING IT BACK.  >> TO REQUEST THAT THE  TRANSITION TO THE  ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY.  GENERALLY A PROGRAM LIKE THIS  WOULD NOT. COMMISSION IT'S  MORE OF OPERATIONAL PROGRAM,  BUT IT DOES HAVE ATTACHED TO  IT SO THAT WAS ORDINANCE. THAT  MAKES SENSE.  >> THAT SAID MAYOR.  >> OK THAT'S NOT NOT YOU CAN  ASK ONE QUESTION THAT THAT  WASN'T THE QUESTION.  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YEAH I  UNDERSTAND  >> THEY'RE TRYING TO DO  SUPPORT I'VE I'VE GOT NO  QUESTIONS.  >> ALRIGHT SHORT AND SWEET.  >> I JUST WANTED TO IT.  CLARIFY YOUR THE TRIBUTE  PROGRAM MAYBE 3 THINGS TREE  BENCH PAPERS THAT'S IT. ALL  RIGHT SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING  THAT TO REMOVE THESE FROM THE  SCHEDULE IT WOULD BILITY WHEN  SOMEBODY WANTS TO HAVE AND THE  CIRCLE OF WATER AND  OPPORTUNITY AND OUTSIDE GROUP  TO HANDLE.  >> DONATIONS ARE SOME ARE  SAYING NOT SO CURRENTLY HAS A  PERMIT PROGRAM EXISTS THE  LANGUAGE HAS DONATE FEATURES  INCLUDE TREE BUNCH FAVOR AND  OTHER FEATURES AS APPROVED BY  THE DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE SO WE  DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY NOW  HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE  OTHER FEATURES. THERE'S NOT A  FEE. THE FEE SCHEDULE WE DON'T  NECESSARILY KNOW THOSE ARE SO  WITH CIRCLE OF HONOR. MAYBE AN  ORGANIZATION WANTS DONATE A  FLAG POLE RIGHT FOR THE CIRCLE  OF HONOR YOU HAVE NOTHING IN  PLACE WE WOULD LIKE BE ABLE TO  DO THAT TO DO THAT RIGHT OKAY.  >> THAT MAKES SENSE TO AND I  HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IN  TRANSITION TO ADMINISTRATIVE.  APPROVAL I MEAN IF THE  PREDATORS ARE SET.  >> AND EVERYTHING'S IN PLACE.  I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY IT  SHOULD HAVE TO COME ACROSS  THAT THEY US UP HERE. AND ALSO  THAT I UNDERSTAND THE REASON  FOR THE 5 YEAR. SO I WAS  PRETTY STANDARD WITH WITH  ANYTHING BECAUSE I KNOW I I  HAVE BEEN SHIPPED TO COME  SPEECH AND EVERY 5 YEARS I GET  THAT EMAIL SAYING DO YOU WANT  TO RENEW THIS FOR 5 YEARS AND  THAT REDO THE PLAQUE. AND  THAT'S JUST LIKE YOU GUYS KNOW  THAT  >> BEACH OKAY.  >> AND THEY WE KNEW A NAME WE  DO THE BOXES AFTER 5 YEARS  IT'S LOOKING PRETTY YOU KNOW  DID SO. THAT'S PART OF THE  MAINTENANCE TO MAKE THAT  YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS  BECAUSE I KNOW TO SOME OF THE  LITTLE ACTS ON THE TREES THEY  DO AND EITHER THEY MADE GOT  HIT WEED WHACK.  >> I USED CALL FOR DEFINITELY  BECAUSE OF A DISPUTE WE THE  WHOLE TRUCK THAT GOING TO.  >> AND A DIVE SO THERE'S A  NEED FOR THAT AND I APPRECIATE  THAT AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU  KNOW AGAIN WE'RE TAKING THIS  OFF THE THE TAX PAYERS BACK  BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY WANTS THIS  TREE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS  GOING TO PROVIDE. AND TO  MAINTAIN AND THEN THE NOW YES  OUTSIDE TRIBUTES. IF SOMEBODY  WANTED TO TO DONATE SOMETHING  THAT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF  THIS PROGRAM. THAT WOULD HAVE  TO COME WE IN THE CITY  COMMISSION RIGHT BECAUSE THAT  WOULD BE OUTSIDE THIS POLICY  AND THAT'S WHAT DO HERE IS WE  ACT CHANGES IN POLICY I DO I  HAVE SITUATION WAS HANDLED  THAT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  MENTIONED. BUT I THINK THAT  WAS ACCEPTED AS A DONATION OR  SOMETHING BUT ANYWAY, BUT  THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION  WOULD HAVE TO DO. OKAY, THINK  THAT'S MY QUESTION'S FOR THAT  COMMISSIONER THANK YOU MAYOR A  QUESTION FOR YOU AND THEN  QUESTION FOR MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS.  >> ABOUT HISTORICALLY HOW MANY  OF THESE TRANSACTIONS HAVE  WE'VE PROCESSED IN THE YEAR.  AND HOW MANY WOULD YOU  ANTICIPATE. IN THE FUTURE.  >> SO THAT IT'S NOT A TON.  >> YOU'RE TALKING  >> 2 TO 4. BENCHES THAT WE  WOULD DO IN A YEAR. PAVERS ON  COULD BE 6 TO 10 PAPERS IN THE  YEAR. TREES 10 ANYWHERE FROM.  2 TO 3 THEY'RE DONE IN A YEAR.  AND AGAIN WE'RE NOT LOOKING  FOR WE ARE APPRECIATIVE ANY  DONATION TO THE PARK SYSTEM.  >> THANK YOU FOR I WOULD  REALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS  PROGRAM. RUN AT NO COST TO THE  CITY AND THE TAXPAYER REALLY  LIKE OUR FEE STRUCTURE TO BE  TO COVER. ASSEMBLY  INSTALLATION AND SOME KIND OF  MAINTENANCE. AND THAT IS WHAT  IT IS IN THIS.  >> THIS REVISED POLICY ITS  SPELLS OUT EXACTLY ALL THE  THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO  COVER AND THE COST.  >> BY NOT HAVING THE FEE  SCHEDULE ALLOWS US TO DO THAT  AS AS COSTS GO UP, YES  INCIDENT INCREASE YEAH, I'M A  100% HAVE TROUBLE WITH MOVING  THIS TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE  POLICY I JUST WANT THAT  ASSURANCE THAT IT'S NOT  COSTING THE CITY THE TAXPAYERS  MONEY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE  NEED VOTE ON THAT SEPARATELY  DO A CONSENSUS.  >> IT'S IT'S GETTING THE  POLICY.  >> AND THAT ADMINISTRATIVE  REGULATION STATED IN EYE OF  BEAUTIFUL. WE DON'T NEED GO  TO.  >> I'M SURE I'M OKAY.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YEAH,  I'M NOT SEEING IN THOSE WERE  AT ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION  WHERE THE PRIVATE DONATIONS  WITH ON TO THE COMMISSION FOR  APPROVAL.  >> MANY BEEN SEEN IN THE  EXISTING ONE.  >> SO I.  >> HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH.  >> PARKS BENCHES THE.  >> HAVERS THE THINGS THAT ARE  STANDARD CUSTOMARY. BUT THOSE  UNIQUE THINGS ABSOLUTELY BEING  PLACED ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. WE  ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR NEEDS TO  COME TO THE COMMISSION FOR  APPROVAL. AND I JUST.  >> I'M NOT A FAN OF  RESPONSIBILITIES AS ELECTED  OFFICIALS I'M NOT AND. WE CAN  PUT IN THE FEES SCHEDULE, FLAG  POLES WE CAN PUT IN THERE THE  BENCHES FOR OVER THE. CIRCLE  OF HONOR WE CAN ADD THOSE  THINGS TO THE FEE SCHEDULE. WE  DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO TAKE  THINGS OUT IN AND LEAVE IT A  100% WITHIN STEPS CONTROL.  >> QUESTIONS BUT YOU DON'T YOU  GO AHEAD WELL. MY  UNDERSTANDING AGAIN THAT THAT  OUT OTHER DONATIONS WITH WOULD  UNDER THIS PROGRAM, THIS IS A  TRIBUTE PROGRAM.  >> PROPERTIES AND IT'S A TREE  BENCH PAVER AND IT FALLS SO I  HAVE THAT RIGHT IF THERE'S  SOMETHING FLAG POLE THERE'S  NOT I WANT HEAR THAT WHAT THAT  >> IT'S CRACKED AND THE CIRCLE  OF HONOR AMENITIES ARE ARE  REALLY A ONE TIME. OPPORTUNITY  FOR SOMEONE TO DONATE. I CAN  TELL YOU FOR EXAMPLE WE'VE  HAD. I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS MY  MEMORY, ONE OF THE SERVICE  GROUPS THAT CAN PARDON WANTED  TO DO IT BUT THEY WANT TO DO A  BENCH THAT GOES AROUND A TREE.  THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS  SPECIFICALLY IN THERE, BUT IT  SHOULD IT MAKE SENSE PUT THAT  IN THE PARK. SO. REVISED  POLICY ALLOWS US THAT  FLEXIBILITY AND TAKING IT OUT  OF THE SCHEDULE. SO KATE SPOT  SO THAT WE CAN ADD MANY.  >> AS I GIVE YOU THE THE  ABILITY TO FIGURE COST FIRST A  UNIQUE SITUATION AND IN  REGULATION THAT SAYS THAT WE  WILL HOW ARE THE RETAIL COST.  >> WE WILL COVER THE  INSTALLATION OF A CAR THE  PLATEAU COVER STAFF TIME. IT  HAS ALL THAT SPELLED OUT THEY  CAN DO IT THIS IS GOING TO BE  NOT THE COST OKAY AND THAT  WOULD BE AND YOU'RE A  SCHEDULE. IT'S IN IN THE  ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION  RIGHT OKAY, THANK YOU.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON DID YOU  HAVE MY.  >> ON A MEANT TO COMMISSIONER  >> I WOULD RATHER SEE.  >> NO APPROVED ELSE OUTSIDE OF  THIS POLICY. BUT THIS IS NOT  AN AREA WHERE I AM COMFORTABLE  TO PROVIDING A LOT OF LATITUDE  FOR ONE-OFFS THE SITUATION AND  CITY CENTER GREEN BEING A GOOD  EXAMPLE OF THAT.  >> AND AND I ALSO HAVE NO  DESIRE OF HAVING THOSE KINDS  OF THINGS COME TO THE  COMMISSION. SO WE CAN BE THE  HAVE AIDS AND THE BAD GUYS I  WOULD RATHER SAY. THAT WAS  KIND OF TRIBUTES ARE NOT  ALLOWED. ON CITY PROPERTY.  KNOW. WE'RE HAVING THE  CONVERSATION CORRECT. AGAIN I  I.  >> THE MINISTRY OF REGULATION  AS IT'S BEFORE YOU HAS BEEN  REVIEWED BY CITY ATTORNEY'S  AND SO I WOULD REALLY NEED TO  CITY ATTORNEY WITH ANY  ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT'S PUT  >> I DO SHARE.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL IS  CONCERN ABOUT THOSE TRULY ONE  KIND SIR,  >> AND IF WE CAN'T PREVENT  THEM IF LEGALLY WE CAN SAY.  >> NO.  >> I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT  THE ISSUE IS TO ADDING  SOMETHING IN THAT WOULD  PRECLUDE THAT KIND OF WHAT ARE  YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE COULD  DO. 2 ADMINISTRATIVELY  PRECLUDE THOSE KINDS OF THAT  KIND OF A SITUATION HAPPENING  AGAIN.  >> I THINK IT NEEDS 3RD NEEDS  TO BE SOME LANGUAGE THAT STAFF  CAN POINT BUT I YOU KNOW, I'M  NOT CERTAIN WHAT THAT SO THAT  YOU HAVE THE GUIDELINE TO SAY  NO. SO I AGAIN DEPUTY CITY  ATTORNEY. I DON'T I'M NOT  GOING TO TRY TO CRAFT THAT I'M  I'M NOT A LAWYER. I THINK WE  DO NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING AND  THE POLICY THAT PRECLUDES  KINDS OF SITUATIONS FROM  HAPPENING AGAIN. IF COMES TO  THE COMMISSION. IF IT'S WE CAN  SOMEHOW DESCRIBED AND SAY THIS  JUST DOES NOT THAT I'M OPEN TO  THE SOLUTION. I DO THINK WE  NEED A WAY TO. AND THESE  THINGS OFF PASS.  >> I THINK POLICY IS DRAFTED I  WOULD AS I READ IT, IT LIMITS  WHAT IS WHAT THE CITY WILL  ALLOW THEM PARKS ANYTHING  BEYOND THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE  THAT OTHER CATEGORY AND SO  WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING STAFF IN  THE HOT SEAT AND THAT'S NOT  THEIR TO MAKE THOSE  DETERMINATIONS.  >> AT THE SAME TIME STAFF  WANTS THE FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW  CERTAIN THINGS WITH A LOOK AT  THE THAT TO SEE HOW.  >> HOW IT WOULD LIMIT I MEAN  MAYBE EVEN SOMETHING LIKE  STAFF DENIES SOMETHING. AND  THE REQUEST OR WANTS TO APPEAL  TO THE COMMISSION. I MEAN I  REALLY HAVE NO APPETITE FOR  HAVING TO LEGISLATE THESE  KINDS OF THINGS ON THE DAY  YES, BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED  A LITTLE SOMETHING TO HAVE  GROUNDS OR. PREVENTING OR  CONTROLLING THESE KIND OF.  MAKE A SUGGESTION.  >> WHY DON'T WE LET WORK WITH  CITY ATTORNEY BASED ON OUR  CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE AND COME  LET THEM WORK IT OUT BEHIND  CLOSED DOORS WITH A LITTLE BIT  USED CONVERSATION AND BRING  BACK SOMETHING ADDITIONAL HAVE  DUPLICATE CONVERSATION. BASED  ON OUR CONCERNS. THAT'S GOOD.  I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT  YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS IS  WHAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT  TYPICALLY THAT THEY'RE DOING  THAT WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO  COME THROUGH SAY, BUT SETS OUT  REFERRING TO OR.  >> HOPE THE FLAGPOLE.  >> DONATED BY SOMEBODY OR THAT  BENCH. THEY FALL IN THE SAME  CATEGORY AS READ OTHER WE CAN  SAY THAT'S OK BUT THAT'S IT  HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT  DEFINES.  >> WHAT THOSE THERE IS THAT  WHAT THAT ISSUE IT. YEAH,  OKAY.  >> AND MAYBE MAYBE IT'S AS  SIMPLE AS.  >> THE FLEXIBILITY OF NON  PROFITS. VERSUS PRIVATE  DONATIONS.  >> YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW HOW  THAT WILL LOOK BUT I THINK WE  ALL UNDERSTAND.  >> THE CONCERN BASED ON PAST  PRACTICE.  >> THAT MIGHT BE A YEAH, I I  DON'T WANT TO CRAFT IT HERE I  THINK GUYS THEN JUST BRING IT  BACK AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.  >> THAT THAT THIS POLICY  REALLY COLLECTING THE MONEY  AND THE CITY IS PURCHASING  THESE ITEMS PLACEMENT. WHICH  IS DIFFERENT LET AN ITEM AND  PLACING IT. AT THE CITY. IT  WOULD BE A DIFFERENT. IF YOU  WILL I THINK THEN UNDER THIS  POLICY WHERE THAT CITY IS JUST  WHAT MEANT. IS ACTING AS THE  LISTING BETTER RATE FOR PUNCH  THEN YOU WOULD BUY. OPEN  MARKET SO. WE'LL LOOK LOOK AT  STAFF TO SEE IF WE CAN THAT'S.  AND I MEAN. SO THAT KIND OF A  SITUATION. GETS REJECTED  BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SORT OF FIT  THE PARAMETERS OF THIS PROGRAM  AND THE DONOR WANTS PROCEED.  WHAT DO THEY DO.  >> SO.  >> SOMEHOW SOME WAY WE NEED TO  FIGURE OUT. AND WHAT IS GOING  TO HAPPEN LIKE ONCE EVERY 15  OR 20 YEARS I DON'T WANT TO  BURN THE MIDNIGHT OIL ON IT'S  NOT LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT  HAPPENS ANNUALLY. BUT AT THE  SAME TIME, I'M JUST.  >> I'M COMFORTABLE.  >> BEING IN A POSITION ANY OF  US WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR  COMMISSIONERS BEING POSSESSION  OF HAVING TO SAY NO TO SOMEONE  WITH NO POLICY ARE ALRIGHT  STRUCTURE JUSTIFY THAT NO. SO  THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE LOOKING  FOR. OK I MAKE A MOTION IF  YOU'RE READY IF NOBODY ELSE  YEAH THAT'S RIGHT OF THE  COMMENT.  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. GO  AHEAD COMMISSIONER TRIED  >> TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO WORK  WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO RE  CRAFT THE LANGUAGE. TAKING  TODAY'S DISCUSSION INTO  CONSIDERATION AND BRING IT  BACK FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION AT  THE COMMISSION.  >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  CITY OR YOU CAPTURE THAT.  >> I SPEAK FAST, I'M TRYING TO  SLOW DOWN YOU NEED TO REPEAT  IT NOW I GOT BEACH. I HOWEVER,  THE MOTION ON ITS DOES NOT  REALLY EXPLAIN ARE ASKING FOR  THAT SAW SOMEBODY WERE TO READ  THAT'S WHAT I WAS MULLING OVER  AT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CITY  ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO INCLUDE  LANGUAGE TAKING TODAY'S  DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION AND  BRING IT BACK FOR FUTURE  DISCUSSION.  >> BEING IF YEAH I'M BEING  VAGUE.  >> ON PURPOSE. I THINK STAFF  FULLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE  DISCUSSING WITHOUT NAMING IT  SPECIFICALLY. IF I IF I'M  MAKING IT INACCURATE  ASSUMPTION, I NEED STAFF TO  TAIL TELL AND THEN I WILL RE  CRAFT THE MOTION LEAVE NOT  WANTING TO CRACK STAFF IS  CLEAR THANK FOR AND I WILL  SECOND THAT OKAY.  >> CITY CLERK, WREATH THAT  >> TO DIRECT STAFF TO WORK  WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S  OFFICE TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE  TAKING TODAY'S DISCUSSION  CONSIDERATION AND BRING BACK.  >> FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION ALL  RIGHT COMMISSION. IF THE  COMMISSION ALL RIGHT SO THAT  MOTION WAS MADE BY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SECONDED  BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON IS NO  FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT  WILL TAKE SLICE VICE MAYOR.  VICE MAYOR YES THERE'S EAS  LANKANS. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  >> YEAH, KNOW.  >> THAT PASSES 4 TO ONE WITH  COMMISSIONER EMRICH DISSENTING  DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON  THAT.  >> I JUST UNDERSTAND EXACTLY  WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND  I THINK IT'S GOOD AS IT IS.  >> ALL RIGHT TO KNOW IT THANK  YOU.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT WAS.  >> MOVING  >> TO SEE.  >> OF THIS IS EYE. 24 DASH 1,  0, 0, WON. SO YOUR ITEM.  >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR  DISCUSSION BLACK IN REGARDING  THE REMOVAL OF SINGLE FAMILY  LOTS TO CONSTITUTION DRY AREA  FROM SARASOTA COUNTY LAND  ACQUISITION WAS IN ORDER TO  CONSIDER PROPERTY. THAT MAY BE  MORE LIKELY TO BE ACQUIRED FOR  CONSERVATION PURPOSES.  QUESTIONED BY  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU AND I  DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF  HAVING US DISCUSS. PROPERTIES  AT THIS POINT BUT I JUST  WANTED TO SHARE INFORMATION  ABOUT OF WHICH DRIVE. AREA IS  SOMETIMES IT'S COME UP IN OUR  DISCUSSIONS AND THAT IS THE  SUNSHINE LAWS, I JUST CAN'T  SHARED SOME INFORMATION WITH  MY COMMISSIONERS WHAT I. HAVE  LEARNED SO JUST TO PUT IT OUT  THERE SO WE HAVE FUTURE  DISCUSSIONS THAT AND ALL THE  CONSTITUTIONAL DRIVE AREA THAT  WILL HAVE JUST MORE  INFORMATION TO MAKE OUR  DECISIONS. AND THIS IS THERE  HAVE BEEN COMMENTS THE PUBLIC  ABOUT AND WE DO HAVE IT ON OUR  BEST LAP LIST WHICH THAT  STANDS FOR ENVIRONMENTALLY  SENSITIVE LAND ACQUISITION  PROGRAM. THAT WE ALL PAY INTO  I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT IS  COMING UP AGAIN TO MAKE  RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT BUT  CONSTITUTION DRIVE IS ON THAT.  >> BECAUSE IT'S A DEATH IN  DESIGNATED SCRUB JAY AREA,  IT'S ALSO AN AREA THAT'S FULL  OF QUARTER ACRE WATTS THAT CAN  AND SO.  >> THIS CAME UP DURING A ROAD  AND DRAINAGE MEETING ONCE WHEN  WE WERE TAUGHT VOTED TO PAY.  SO THAT AREA AND THE COMMENTS  WERE YOU KNOW WHY WE PAVING  THAT IF IT'S ON THE LIST FOR  ACQUISITION. AND SO I DECIDED  TO LOOK INTO THAT TO WHERE WE  ARE WITH WITH THAT. AND SO  HERE'S THAT INFORMATION  >> STEPHEN KALIN OF I'M SORRY  FOR MISPRONOUNCING HIS NAME  MANAGER OF OUR NATURAL  RESOURCE DIVISION. MET WITH  THOSE IN OF THIS PROGRAM AND  THIS IS WHAT HE FOUND OUT THAT  THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN  ACQUIRING THOSE PROPERTIES IN  THE CONSTITUTION DRIVE AREA.  HOWEVER, THERE ARE 358  INDIVIDUAL PARCELS WITH ABOUT  300 DIFFERENT OWNERS. AND THE  COUNTY HAS REACHED OUT TO ALL  OWNERS. WITH ONLY 3 THAT  EXPRESSED A WILLINGNESS TO  SOUTH THIS PROGRAM IS A A  WILLING SELLER PROGRAM. SO  ACTUALLY THAT'S ONE PERCENT  THAT REPLY BE INTERESTED IN  SELLING. AND THE COUNTY SAID  THEY WOULD NEED AT LEAST HALF  OR 150 OF THOSE PROPERTY  OWNERS WOULD BE WILLING TO  SELL BEFORE THEY COULD  PROCEED. WITH MAKING OFFERS.  ♪ IN ADDITION, EVEN IF THOSE  ♪ PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY SAID  EVEN IF THOSE PARCELS COULD BE  ACQUIRED. IT WAS INDICATED  THAT WOULD BE MAIN CHALLENGE  IS WITH REGARDS TO MANAGING  THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S A  BIG PART OF THAT PROGRAM IS  THEY HAVE TO MANAGE THE  PROPERTY THEY PUT  CONSERVATION. AND A COUNTY  COMMISSIONER THAT SINGER  BROUGHT THIS UP. ONE OF THE  COUNTY SOME TIME AGO THAT HALF  OF THE MONEY THAT'S TAKEN HIM  FROM THAT PROGRAM NOW IS BEING  SPENT JUST TO MAINTAIN THE  PROPERTIES THEY'VE ALREADY  BOUGHT THEY JUST BOUGHT 2 MORE  PROPERTIES, I THINK ENGLEWOOD  HE ACQUIRED MORE LAND. SO THEY  SAID IT AT SOME POINT ALL THAT  MONEY IS GOING TO GO IN FOR  MAINTENANCE AND NOTHING IS  GOING TO BE LEFT FOR  ACQUISITIONS BUT JUST SO  PEOPLE HAVE AN IDEA. AND  UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU BUY  LAND CONSERVATION IS IN JUST  CAN JUST SIT THERE AND YOU  STILL HAVE TAKE CARE OF IT.  AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS FOR A  MANAGING THE PROPERTY  PARTICULAR FOR SCRUB JAYS.  BECAUSE SCRUB JAYS DO NOT LIKE  PIPES. HIGHER THAN FOR I FEET  SO DAYS AND TREES DO NOT GET  BECAUSE AND SO DID YOU HAVE  TREES YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THE  HEIGHT. WHEN I WENT OUT TO  THAT AREA THERE'S A LOT LOT OF  TREES OF HAVE DREW NOT OUT  THERE. SO ONE OF THE MOST COST  EFFECTIVE WAYS DEALING WITH  THAT IS ALLBIRDS WHERE THEY  SAID YOU CAN'T DO THAT WHEN  YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL.  PROPERTIES THERE ARE OTHER  METHODS, BUT THERE ARE MORE  COSTLY WHICH IS WHY THEY  ALWAYS DO THAT PRESCRIBE  BURNT. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING  THAT OUT. OH YES AND I HAD A  LITTLE NOTATION HERON CREEK  WAS BILLS AND THEY JOHN  JACKSON IS THE ONE WHO DID  STUDY FOR THAT AND HAD  MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT AND I  DON'T KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO  GET INTO WHY THAT WAS NEVER  DONE OR WHATEVER, BUT BECAUSE  NOW THERE'S STILL MANY  RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN THERE  THAT THEY CAN'T DO TRY OUT FOR  ANYMORE SO THAT'S JUST SO  PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT AS  EASY SOMETIMES AS YOU THINK  SHOULD BE SO.  >> I'M JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT  OUT THERE FOR MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS TO KNOW WHAT'S  WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT AND  THAT MAYBE PERHAPS WHEN WE DO  DISCUSS THOSE PROPERTIES WE  CAN CONSIDER PROPERTY THAT  WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO BE  ACQUIRED. I THINK WE MENTIONED  CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT  ILI ITALY AVENUE PROPERTY IS  PRETTY CLOSE THAT SAN MATEO  PROPERTY THAT WE JUST ACQUIRED  >> ANYBODY AND THEN VERIFY  >> THIS ENDING IS THAT IS THAT  CORRECT ITALY AVENUE PROPERTY  IS CLOSE TO THE SAN MATEO  PROPERTIES THAT WERE JUST  ACQUIRED THERE IN THAT SAME  VICINITY IS THAT RIGHT.  >> SHAKING HER HEAD, I CAN DO  THAT FOR THE RECORD YES  SHAKING HER HEAD, YES. I MORE  MORE SENSE TO THEY ARE OUT  AREAS THAT WOULD BE A WE COULD  ACQUIRE NOW AND THEY WOULD  BACK OFF OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING  TO DO ANYWAY.  ♪ I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS  TO COMMENT ON THAT, BUT IT'S  JUST LIKE I SAID I WASN'T  LOOKING FOR MOVING FORWARD  WITH ANY ACTUALLY AT THIS  POINT BUT THE PUT THAT IN YOUR  ♪ INFORMATION BANG. SO WE HAVE  DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONSTITUTION  DRIVE THEY. IT'S A GOOD IDEA  MAYBE IT WAS A GOOD IDEA 30  YEARS AGO ACTUALLY THIS  PROGRAM WAS VOTED 1999. AND  YOU KNOW WHAT FOUND I FOUND AN  OLD AND WE'VE GOT. IS THAT  PASSED IN 1999 THAT PROGRAM,  YES AND THERE I WAS WITH LIKE  4 OTHER PEOPLE, I'M HOLDING UP  SIGNS TO VOTE YES FOR IT.  INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THE  COMMISSION AT THE TIME I DON'T  REMEMBER WHO WAS ON THE  COMMISSION THEY DID NOT  SUPPORT THIS REFERENDUM JUST  FOR A LITTLE BUT THAT THERE  ALL RIGHT, SOMEBODY WROTE  LETTER TO THE EDITOR ABOUT  THAT HOW DISAPPOINTED SHE WAS  WITH THAT I'LL GIVE YOU 3  GUESSES WHO THAT PERSON  LOCKHART SO ANYWAY, I JUST  WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE  >> THAT'S THAT VICE MAYOR.  YEAH,  >> I GUESS CONFUSED I DON'T  UNDERSTAND PURPOSE OF THIS. I  THESE ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY  SENSITIVE PROPERTIES. DESPITE  THE FACT THAT MOST OF THAT.  PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T WANT TO  SELL. WHILE WE TAKE IT OFF THE  LIST.  >> IT'S THE LIST TO PUT IT  INTO THIS.  >> PROGRAM. THE AS WELL  BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL  PROPERTIES THAT AT ZONED FOR  SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT SO  PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO  DEVELOP THERE. SITES WIN. IF  AND WHEN THEY WANT TO. AND  THAT I'M JUST ASSUMING WE HAVE  SO MANY CARDS OR TOKENS ONE  WAY I THINK IT WAS 5 THAT WE  PUT ON THAT LIST AND I'M JUST.  JUST I JUST THINK THINKING  ABOUT WHAT IS THE VALUE OF  KEEPING AS ONE OF THOSE TOW  AND SO TO SPEAK WHEN IT'S  UNLIKELY IT'S EVER GOING TO.  >> ABLE TO BE SO WE HAVE  RESTRICTION TO HOW MANY  PROPERTIES YOU CAN PUT  >> SARASOTA COUNTY I THINK YOU  KNOW IS IT WAS ALWAYS KEPT A  5, BUT ALSO I THINK MY POINT  IS WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD.  THOSE THAT THOSE PROPERTIES  BEING ABLE TO BE ACQUIRED TO  ONE PERCENT RATE RIGHT NOW  THOSE WHO EXPRESSED AN  INTEREST AND IF WE WERE  TALKING ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE THAT  THE PAVING PROJECT. AND IF IT  CAME DOWN OK WE'RE NOT WE  DON'T WANT TO REPAY THOSE  ROADS AND THAT'S WHAT SOME  SOME OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTERS  WERE ALLUDING WHILE REPAVING  ROADS. WHEN THIS IS ON LIST  AND THE ANSWER WAS NUMBER ONE  PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING OUT  THERE SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE  THEIR ROADS SERVICE NUMBER 2.  THE LIKELIHOOD THAT EVER BEING  ACQUIRED I THINK IS NOTHING  AND VERY I THINK THAT'S IT  JUST TO PUT THAT INFORMATION  BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT  THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES  FIT THAT DEFINITION THAT MIGHT  BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ACQUIRE I  JUST MY CONCERN I GUESS TO GET  TO APPOINTMENTS.  >> MY CONCERN IS THAT BY  TAKING THEM OFF THE LIST DO  THEY SORT DISAPPEAR FROM  DISABILITY.  >> WHAT 90 FOR CONSERVATION ON  THEIR BUT FROM THE COUNTY  STANDPOINT IT JUST SEEMS  UNLIKELY THAT'S EVER GOING TO  HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT  HAD. WILLING SELLERS RIGHT NOW  BEFORE THEY'RE GOING PUT ANY  OF THESE I WAS TO BIND THEM.  OKAY THAT'S REALLY JUST TO  PARK INFORMATION LIKE I SAID  BEFORE WHEN THIS COMES UP IN  DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PAVING ROADS  AND DOING IMPROVEMENTS OUT  THERE. NUMBER ONE NUMBER 2  SHOULD YES WE HAVE OTHER  PROPERTIES THAT CAN BE  PROBABLY EASIER ACQUIRED UNDER  IT USING THIS MONEY BECAUSE  MATERRE BOTH AMATEUR  PROPERTIES OF THE ONLY  PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN  ACQUIRED IN THE ENORMOUS  OF NORTH PORT SINCE THIS  PROGRAM WENT INTO EFFECT SO.  COMMISSIONER DOW YEAH.  >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.  >> CONSTITUTION DRIVE IS A  VERY SENSITIVE I DID TAKE A  DRIVE OUT IT DID NOT PAY  EVERYTHING THAT WAS. FROM MY  MEMORY, WHAT WAS INTENDED.  THEY DIDN'T STOP. I'M  ♪ PROBABLY A BLOCK OR 2 AFTER  ♪ TIME HELP AND EVERYTHING ELSE  IS I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE  TAKING IT OFF THE LIST AT THIS  POINT UNTIL WE HAVE A  CONVERSATION ON ALL OF THE  CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. TO  DETERMINE WHAT THOSE CITY ON  PROPERTIES USES ARE WE'VE  WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF  PROPERTIES THAT ARE CONSIDERED  OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. WE  HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT  ARE CITY PROPERTY. THAT WE  COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE TO  CONSERVATION WE COULD POSSIBLY  TALK ABOUT SELLING WE COULD  POSSIBLY TALK ABOUT USING FOR  AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE'RE  SUPPOSED TO HAVE EVERY YEAR A  CONVERSATION ON CITY OWNED  PROPERTY AND ITS USES. WE  HAVEN'T HAD ONE IN. I CAN'T  EVEN REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE  HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT  CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AND USES.  I UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF  HANDSTANDS IGNITED CERTAIN  PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN  ACQUIRED FOR ROAD AND DRAINAGE  CERTAIN PROPERTIES ARE  DESIGNATED AS PARKS. BUT  THEY'RE AT BUT THE COMMISSION  IS SUPPOSED TO BE REVIEWING  THESE YEAR. AND I REALLY DON'T  THINK NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO  DESIGNATE NEW LANCE FOR  INCLUSION IN A SLUMP. I'M THE  FIRST ONE THAT COMES TO MIND  IS ALWAYS KNOWN A SPRINT.  WHICH IS PRIVATELY HELD  THERE'S PROPERTIES OUT AND  DURANGO SOME ARE CITY-OWNED  SUMMER PRIVATE SO WE REALLY  NEED TO HAVE A BIGGER  CONVERSATION AND I REALLY  THINK WE NEED TO HAVE.  >> A CONVERSATION AT THE  COMMISSION LEVEL WITH A BIG  OLD MAP THAT SHOWS WHAT  PROPERTIES THE CITY I HAVE  SOME APPS BUT THEY'RE REALLY  OLD. AND WHAT THOSE KIDS LIKE  AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY  WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THOSE  CONVERSATIONS BEFORE BUDGET SO  THAT IN CASE, THERE'S  PROPERTIES THAT WE'D LIKE TO  WE GET THAT BALL ROLLED TO SO  UNTIL WE HAVE THAT CITY. UNTIL  WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT  CITY-OWNED PROPERTY I CAN'T  MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY  DECISIONS ON THIS OKAY, YES,  AND NO I WAS LOOKING LIKE I  SAID THAT TOO HAVE MAKE ANY  DECISIONS AS FAR AS.  >> TAKING ANYTHING OFF  ANYTHING ON THAT HASN'T BEEN  PUT.  >> I GUESS THAT HAS BEEN PUT  IN THERE IT WAS REALLY JUST  SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE  IT IS AND THE APP POSITION  PROCESS THAT'S WHERE IT IS  THERE ONE PERCENT. POSSIBLE  WELL READ THE RECOMMENDED  ACTION IS TO REMOVE  SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS AND  CONSTITUTION. SO SHOULD WRITE  ON THE LEGISLATIVE TEXT. A  LEGISLATIVE TEXT AND THE  BACKUP MATERIAL IT MOTION TO  REMOVE SINGLE AND WE ALLOW  INSTITUTIONS LEVEL ABOVE THE  LAW.  >> SO I MEAN THAT NEED TO DO  THAT. YOU KNOW LOOKING OR.  YEAH, YEAH DEATH.  >> YEAH, IT WAS REALLY TO  REMOVE THAT IT WAS JUST  EVERYBODY KNOW WHERE IT STANDS  AND WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF  THAT TO BE POSSIBLE DISCUSSION  IN THE FUTURE. JUST THANK FOR  EVERYBODY NOT.  >> ALL COMMISSIONER  >> THANK YOU FOR THE  INFORMATION.  >> THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FOR.  >> AND I THINK THE DISCUSSION  PROMPTED ANOTHER DISCUSSION  ABOUT. LOOKING AT THOSE OTHER  PROPERTIES COMMISSIONER STATED  SO DO YOU WANT TO WANT TO  SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.  >> I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY IN  POLICY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO  HAVE THIS YEARLY CONVERSATION  DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION  TO HAVE IT DONE. AS SOON AS  POSSIBLE I MEAN I DON'T KNOW  WHAT THAT TIMELINE IS GOING TO  LOOK THIS IS AN EMERGENCY TYPE  THINGS I WOULDN'T SAY AS  POSSIBLE ARE WE GOING TO HAVE  THAT NEXT CONVERSATION IS THE  BIGGER QUESTION IS HASN'T  TELLING YOU FOLKS IT HAS NOT  HAPPENED IN YEARS. AND IT  NEEDS TO HAPPEN EVERY YEAR.  >> I YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE  PROPERTY WE HAVE ON THAT LIST  FOR CONSIDERATION OR OWN  DISCUSSION, YEAH, AND I WE'RE  GOING TO PUT ANYTHING ON THAT  PART OF THE REASON I THINK THE  COUNTY HASN'T PUT ANY  PROPERTIES ARE PURCHASED ANY  PROPERTIES IN NORTH PORT IS  BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN VERY  PROACTIVE IN. AND GETTING OUR  WISHES NOW AND NOT BEING VERY  PROACTIVE ABOUT. PUTTING  PROPERTIES ON THOSE LISTS IT  WAS A TIME ABOUT MAYBE 4 OR 5  YEARS AGO WHERE WE DID HAVE  MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT  THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE  LANDS. WE RECOMMEND ATIONS.  THAT'S KIND OF LIKE WHERE IT  WENT DIDN'T MOVE ANYWHERE  DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE AND IT'S  YOU KNOW, WHICH IS NATURAL  RESOURCE DEPARTMENT KATIE  SOMETHING THEY CAN LOOK INTO  AND HAVE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS  TO REALLY JUST SAY HEY COUNTY.  THESE ARE ONES THAT ARE LISTED  NOW WE HAVE STAFF THAT  AVAILABLE TO KIND OF FOLLOW  THROUGH WITH THAT WHOLE  PROCESS INSTEAD JUST.  ORGANICALLY LETTING THE COUNTY  TRAFFIC  >> SO FOR COMMISSION MEETING  YOU PUT THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION  POSSIBLE ACTION FOR US, YEAH  YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO  I SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE WE DO  HAVE A SHORT WINDOW HERE AND I  DON'T THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT  THERE SO I LISTENING  >> I THINK THE THE ABILITY TO  SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT I  AND THAT'S MAINLY AGAIN FOR  OUR RESIDENTS OUT THERE  BECAUSE THE SUNSHINE. LAWS  THAT WE HAVE I JUST CAN'T  MENTION SOMETHING WE'RE GOING  TO BE DISCUSSING FUTURE AS A  VOTING ISSUE SO I JUST WANT  BUT THERE ANY PUBLIC THAT YES  ROBINSON CENTER AT.  >> THIS AREA WAS DESIGNATED AS  ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE DUE  TO THE HABITAT SUPPORTING THE  FLORIDA SCRUB FOR TOURISTS IN  ADDITION TO OTHER SPECIES  UTILIZED IN THIS AREA.  >> UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTY  IN OBTAINING THESE  INDIVIDUALLY 100 PARCELS WE  HAVEN'T REALLY SEEING  CONCERTED EFFORT AND DOING SO  WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONLY ONE  PARTIAL REACH OUT WITH THAT  SAID WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO JUST  GIVE AWAY PLANET WE SENSED OF  LANDS TO DEVELOPMENT WHAT  ASKED A QUESTION THAT IF THIS  HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE  ROAD THAT WAS ARRESTED WHILE  BACK FOR ONLY ONE HOME AND  THIS IMMEDIATE AREA I DON'T  BELIEVE IN SWAPPING OUT BYRON  MENTALLY SENSITIVE LANDS  ANOTHER JUST BECAUSE THEY MAY  BE MORE LIKELY A TIRED. AND  THAT'S ON OWN.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THERE'S THE NO  ACTION BEING TAKEN NOW SO  WE'RE GOING TO WE HAVE MOVE  FORWARD. ITEM D 24 DASH 1, 0,  7, 0, AND CITY MANAGER THIS  YOUR ITEM. THIS AND IT'S RIGHT  DOES IT RIGHT THERE AS MANAGER  DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION  REGARDING THE APPROVAL OF THE  JUNE 2720 24 COMMISSION BUDGET  WORKSHOP MEETING MINUTES.  >> THESE MINUTES WERE SENT OUT  TO COMMISSION AND WERE JULY  THAT WE RECEIVED SOME  RECOMMENDED CHANGES THOSE  REVIEWED AND ADJUSTED  ACCORDINGLY.  >> ALL ANY QUESTIONS OR  DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT  COMMISSIONERS. IF NOT I'M  LOOKING FOR A MOTION.  >> MAKE A GO AHEAD I MOVE TO  APPROVE THE JUNE 27TH 2024  MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED  WITH RECOMMENDED CHANGES  >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON  TO APPROVE THE JUNE 2720 24  MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED  WITH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES  AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, I  HEARD.  >> IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE  LET'S DO A VOICE. I LANGDON  SAY, YES DON'T U.S..  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  >> IMAGES THAT YES ALRIGHT,  THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. LET'S MOVE  TO ITEM.  >> EAT 24 DASH 1, 0, 7, 8,  >> CITY CLERK, THIS IS YOUR  ITEM AS WELL DISCUSSION AND  POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE  APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 24TH 2024  COMMISSION WORKSHOP MEETING  MINUTES. THESE MINUTES WERE  SENT OUT AND THE LIFE THAT YOU  SEEING CHANGES AND THOSE  CHANGES WERE MADE ACCORDINGLY  ALL RIGHT ANY QUESTIONS OR  DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE  MINUTES. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.  THERE ISN'T ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE  LOOKING FOR A MOTION.  >> WELL MAKE JUST ONE GUY HAD  A MOVE TO APPROVE THE  6/24/2024 MEETING MINUTES AS  PRESENTED WITH RECOMMENDED  CHANGES. ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE  A MOTION TO APPROVE JUNE 24TH.  >> 2024 MEETING MINUTES AS  PRESENTED WITH THE RECOMMENDED  CHANGES LOOKING FOR A SECOND.  >> SECOND.  >> THE QUESTION SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> WE NEED TO PUT WORKSHOP AND  THERE'S THAT THE ONLY MEETING  THAT WE HAVE THAT. I BELIEVE  THAT WAS THE ONLY MEETING THAT  WAS A MONDAY, THE FIRST JUST  WANT TO MAKE SURE.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE THE  MOTION AND WE HAVE THE SECOND  IS NOTHING ELSE LET'S DO A  VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR. THIS  MAYOR IS YOU STEYER ZS LANGDON  DEJESUS DON'T. YES.  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES ALL  RIGHT AND THAT PASSES 5 TO 0  LIVING ON TO ITEM F 24 DASH 1,  AGAIN WORK JUST AS YOUR ITEM.  >> SPECIAL POSSIBLE ACTION  REGARDING APPROVAL OF THE JUNE  3020 24 COMMISSION REGULAR  MEETING MINUTES. THESE MINUTES  WERE SENT OUT AND WE RECEIVED  RECOMMEND CHANGES ON JULY 3RD  2024 AND CHANGES WERE  COURTNEY.  >> ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER  QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT.  >> PUBLIC COMMENT SO WHAT DO  FOR MOTION. MAKE A MOTION  COVID. THE SECOND YEAH. CAN I  SUPPORT QUESTION.  >> I DO SAYS COMMISSION  REGULAR MEETING MINUTES, BUT  THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO  APPROVE COMMIT COMMISSION  REGULAR WORKSHOP.  >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS  ITEM IS FOR COMMISSION  WORKSHOP MEETING MINUTES.  THANK MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE  THE JUNE SHOT MEETING MINUTES  THAT  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  TO APPROVE THE DUNE 3RD 2020  OR WORKSHOP MEETING MINUTES  PREVENT IT. WHAT. RECOMMENDED  CHANGES THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF  THERE'S NOTHING ELSE VOICE  VOTE VICE MAYOR.  >> VICE MAYOR S MAYOR ZS  LANGDON YES THEY DO YES.  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES.  PASSES 5 TO 0.  >> I WOULD SUGGEST AND CAN I  LIKE TO MAKE QUICK STATEMENT  EVERYONE ELSE AGREES, BUT THAT  SURE THAT THE RIGHT. HOW LONG  THAT YOU WANT TO BE A THAT'S  SOMETHING OUT THERE.  >> WHERE TO FIND THEM THAT'S  QUITE WHILE 30. NOW THAT'S ALL  I ALL RIGHT WELL, 45 COMEBACK.  AND I I JUST DO THAT  STATEMENT.  >> I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO  MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND TO  STAFF I HAVE A COMMITMENT FOR  THIS AFTERNOON.  >> THAT THE FULL WE  REALLOCATED TO THE AGENDA I  WOULD HAVE BEEN I CANNOT MOVE  IT AND SO I HAVE TO LEAVE I  WILL NOT BE BACK AFTER LUNCH,  SO MY APOLOGIES TO EVERYBODY  EVERYTHING'S THANK YOU.  >> OK SO IT IS 1157 AND WILL  WE WILL ABOUT 45 MILEAGE  RIGHT, THANK  >> I THINK I FIND FRANCIS  PLASTIC BAGS. SO START TO NOT  RECYCLABLE I FIND JUST POSTING  THE CONTAINER OR THE BAD THE  RECYCLE WITH HIM.  >> SHOULD SIDE COUNTRY THAT'S  RIGHT INSIDE THE BLUE  CONTAINERS. AND THEY SHOULD BE  YOU TAKEN BACK TO THE GROCERY  STORE OR TOSS IN THE TRASH  EVERY YOU SEE A LOT OF  RECYCLING INSIDE THE  CONTAINERS I COME ACROSS A LOT  WANT TO DO THAT SO.  >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK  AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH  PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH  SOLID WASTE.  >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING  TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S  IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND  WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT,  IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG  BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST  MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE  DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS  THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET  AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET  EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S  IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS  SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE  PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME  AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR  BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR  HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE  DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND  THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T  WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE  AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE  THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK  ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU  MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF  TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF  EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO  REFILL YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS  AHEAD OF TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE  NOT DO YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT  TO DO THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAGS YOU SHOULD HAVE  NON-PERISHABLE FOOD FLASHLIGHT  BATTERIES, A RADIO THAT IS  BATTERY POWERED AND EXTRA  BATTERIES SHOULD ALL POWER GO  OUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO  BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY  EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE  SURE TO HAVE BATTERY POWERED  RADIO READY IN TUNED IN TO 97  POINT.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOS SALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN FLOOD ZONES AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS. SO FLOOD  ZONES ARE GENERATED BY FEMA  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL  FLOOD  ♪ AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  IF YOU NEED FLOOD INSURANCE IF  YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE ON YOUR  HOME. NOW THE EVACUATION ZONES  ARE BASED ON STORM SURGE DATA  THAT COMES FROM THE NATIONAL  HURRICANE CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  ♪ >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER  ♪ STORM EVENT WATER SHOULD BE IN  THAT SWELL UP TO 72 HOURS  AFTER THE STORM. THAT ALLOWS  THE FILTER TO GET THE STUFF  THAT CAME FOR ROOM AND THE  ROAD OUT OF THE WATER SO THAT  WHEN REACHES THE HABITAT IT NO  LONGER HAS THOSE CONTAMINANTS  ♪ IT ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY  TO SLOW DOWN WATERS SO THAT  THE WATER DOESN'T GO SO FAST  THAT ERODES ROADWAYS ANY OTHER  INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU  SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU KNOW UP  TO  ♪ 72 HOURS SINCE THE LAST RAIN  THAT IS FLOODING THAT IS DOING  ITS JOB.  >> MINE IN THE VAN PULL IT  FROM PRODUCT FACILITY MANAGER  WITH THE CITY OF NORTH PORT  AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE  TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT  OUR FREE SWIM EVALUATION. IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED FROM  A VALUATION SO KIDS  REGISTERING FOR SWIM PROGRAMS  THEY GET PLACED IN THE RIGHT  CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU ATION  IS EVERY SWIM LEVEL HAS WHAT'S  CALLED EXIT SKILL ASSESSMENTS.  SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE YOUR  CHILD GET IN THE WATER AND  WILL GO THROUGH A SERIES OF  DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS CAN YOU GO  INTO THE WATER I CAN YOU SHOW  US YOUR PHONE CALL CAN YOU  SHOW US BACK ALL SHOWS  ELEMENTARY BACK DIFFERENT  STROKES WITHIN AND WHAT WE'RE  DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO SEE  WHERE YOUR CHILD TEST TO  BEFORE IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE  FOR AT THAT POINT WHAT WE  ASSESS THAT THAT WILL LET YOU  KNOW AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND  SIGN YOUR CHILD UP FOR THAT  APPROPRIATE LEVEL THERE. IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE  SO THAT WAY WHEN WE'RE  TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE DON'T  HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD  POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND  LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM  A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  ♪ >> STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT EVERYBODY IN  YOUR FAMILY CAN SEE IT AND  KEEP IT FRESH IN THEIR MINDS  AND YOU ALSO SHARE IT WITH  PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR  NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY KNOW  WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AHEAD OF  TIME AND HOW TO GET A HOLD OF  YOUR WAY TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER  A DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION  YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE  ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION.  YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST  BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON  75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE  COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK  ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE  GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE  MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING  STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE  MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE  FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN  STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE  YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO  GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S  HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE  EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS  STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND  THE STORM OPTION WOULD BE GO  TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH MORE  COMFORTABLE THAN I'VE  ACCUSATION. CENTER'S 4TH  OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE  OF OUR EVACUATION CENTER  SARASOTA COUNTY HAS FALLEN  BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S.  THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON THEIR  WEBSITE.  >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PORT  NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN  CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.  THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY  NAMED MYAKKA HACHI CREEK ALSO  KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW  WATERSHED.  >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE  DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY  TO EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR.  AS THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS  LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE  BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE  SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT  FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY  CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT  ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH. BUT  ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF IN THE  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTY PORTIONS OF THE BIG  SLOW. DURING SIGNIFICANT RAIN  EVENTS PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR  PONDING OCCURS AND LOW-LYING  AREAS THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED  BY POORLY DRAINED OR SUPER  SATURATED SOILS WITH  BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL EVENTS  THE GROUND IS TOTALLY  SATURATED WHICH INCREASES THE  RUNOFF DURING A STORM. THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  ITS STORMWATER CONVEYANCE  SYSTEM WHICH IS COMPRISED OF  ROADSIDE SWALES DRAINING INTO  79 MILES OF NAMED WATERWAYS.  >> AND 132 MILES OF RETENTION  DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH  EACH OTHER AND WITH THE MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK. THERE ARE 64  WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES OF  WHICH 23 ARE GATED WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES 5 ARE GATED  DROP STRUCTURES, 28 ARE FIXED.  WE'RE STRUCTURES AND 8 ARE  DROPPED STRUCTURES. THE  CONTROL ELEVATIONS OF THESE  STRUCTURES ARE DESIGNED SO  THAT WATER IS RETAINED IN THE  WATERWAYS AND A STEP-DOWN  ELEVATION SYSTEM  CONFIGURATION.  >> THIS MEANS THE WATER LEVELS  IN THE WATERWAY SEGMENTS  BETWEEN STRUCTURES  PROGRESSIVELY DECREASES IN  ELEVATION FROM NORTH TO SOUTH  AND FROM EAST TO WEST. THIS  SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ALLOWS  BOTH RETENTION OF STORM WATER  RUNOFF FOR WATER QUALITY  TREATMENT AND STORAGE FOR  POTABLE WATER USE IN  PREPARATION FOR A STORM, THE  GATES ARE OPENED AS NEEDED TO  CONVEY FLOODWATERS.  >> THE CITY HAS AN ONGOING  PROGRAM TO INSPECT AND REPLACE  OLD CORRODED STRUCTURES SINCE  2006 13 OF THE HIGH PRIORITIES  STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN REPLACED  OR REHABILITATED THE CITY ALSO  HAS A PROGRAM TO CLEAR THE  DITCHES OF SEDIMENT DEPOSITS  THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER  TIME AND CLEAR FALLEN TREES  AND DEBRIS IN THE MYAKKA HACHI  CREEK. THIS ALSO HELPS RESTORE  THE FLOW CAPACITY OF THE  WATERWAYS.  >> MY STORY SHORT PORT IS  PRONE TO FLOODING, BUT THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  CAN VANCE CHANNELS WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES AND  PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE TO  LESSEN THE IMPACT. WHEN THERE  IS A HURRICANE OR SIGNIFICANT  RAIN EVENT. THE CITY GETS INTO  RESPONSE IN RECOVERY MODE  QUICKLY AFTER PLEASE STAY SAFE  OUT THERE.  >> EVERYONE MY NAME IS MARIO  OF NVIDIA I AM THE PLAN OR  SCHEDULE OR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE A  GOOD INTO THIS POSITION. FIRST  I WAS RECYCLE DRIVER FOR 5  YEARS FOR THE AND THEN I  BECAME THE PLAN A SCHEDULE  AFTER TAKING AN INTEREST  EDUCATING RESIDENTS ON HOW TO  RECYCLE PROPERTY MY POSITION  MY DAY-TO-DAY USUALLY I START  OUT BY VISITING THE NEW  RESIDENTS THAT SCHEDULE  GARBAGE AND RECYCLING  CONTAINERS TO BE THE LIMIT  AND.  >> I WILL GO SEE THEM AND  EDUCATE THEM ON A SOLID WASTE  GUIDELINES MORE LESS MORE  FOCUSED RECYCLE PART OF AFTER  THAT I WILL DRIVE AROUND THE  CITY AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT  RECYCLE CONTAINERS MANUALLY  FOR CONTAMINATION.  ♪ AND THEN I WILL TAKE CALLS  FROM DRIVERS IF THERE'S  ♪ ANY ISSUES WITHOUT REPEAT.  GARBAGE CYCLE AND I WILL GO  EDUCATE THE WHAT I LOVE MOST  ABOUT THE PORT IS. THERE ARE  FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.  ♪ I GET TO LEARN ABOUT THE SOLID  WASTE GUIDELINES WHEN THEY  COME FROM AS WELL AS EDUCATE  THEM ON THE CITY NORTH PORT'S  ALWAYS GUIDELINES HOW TO  ♪ RECYCLE PROPERLY.  >> BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL  RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE  INTEGRAL PART FOR THE CITY'S  GROWTH IS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE A  MORE BALANCED APPROACH OF  DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE WHAT  WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS SEE  SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT  SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.  >> AND ABOUT A MONTH THAT IN  LYON WAIVES WHAT WE DO HAVE  ALREADY HAVE HASTENED WE WANT  TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN  OF NATURAL RESOURCES, SO THAT  IS STILL PLACE POLL ON THE OF  ZAW ALL MIKE WRITING BAD  SADDLED THE OF THE SPECIES  THAT AND SURVIVED IT ALL  HABITAT THAT ROLE SYSTEMS. BIG  PART  >> THE WAYS YOU CALL SYSTEMS  FUNCTION, IMPORTANT PARTS FOR  OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LIST THE  SPECIES THEY STABILIZE THE  SOIL THEY PROVIDES SO MANY  DIFFERENT BENEFITS, INCLUDING  SHADE LIMITING THE HEAT ISLAND  EFFECTS WITHIN OUR CITY  ♪ PROVIDING HABITAT PROVIDING  SHELTER FOR THE SPECIES. JUST  TO ALSO FOR OUR IS THAT HE CAN  JOIN MINCE WELL AS AN A LOT OF  WHAT I DO IS.  >> MAKING SURE THAT  DEVELOPMENT CONFORMS TO THE  TREE PROTECTION CODE SO ONE  THING WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE  SINCE APRIL OF 2022. IS A TREE  PROTECTION CODE WHICH IS QUITE  ROBUST AND THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY  COMMISSION AND THE CITY ALSO A  LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT  AND SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO  HAVE THE TREE PROTECTION CODE  WHAT I A LOT OF WHAT I DO IS  MAKING SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT  IN THE RESIDENTIAL OR  COMMERCIAL CONFORMS TO THAT  CODE WE ALL SUCH A PASSIONATE  TEAM WE COME FROM.  >> FACT I THINK BETWEEN US WE  HAVE A 100 OF EXPERIENCE AS WE  ARE EVERY RIGHT WING TO GO OUT  AND YOU KNOW WE KNOW HE'S CUT  OUT WITH A HAPPY TO  ♪ TAKE THE CHALLENGE TO DIVISION  COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.  >> AND LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY  WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE GREAT  STRIDES AND PROTECTING WHAT WE  HAVE HERE AND FINDING THAT  BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND  ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, I'M  EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THIS  TEAM REALLY.  >> SEEKING AND LOOKING FORWARD  TO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO  BE ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  ♪ >> REX HAS A FULL CLASS TRX  CAMP IS A NEW CLASS FOR ME,  ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN USING TRS  FOR MANY YEARS WITH PERSONAL  TRAINING THAT I DO OR IN OTHER  STYLES CLASSES THAT I'VE DONE.  BUT AN ACTUAL FOCUS WITH JUST  TRX THIS IS A NEW CLASSROOM. I  LOVE THE CAMARADERIE TO SAY  WITH ALL  ♪ THE PARTICIPANTS. I THINK WE  HAVE A LOT OF FUN. FIRST OF  ALL EVERYONE GETS TO THE MANS  THAT YEAR EXPENSE OF BEING  THAT WE HAVE 5 STATIONS SO WE  HAVE OVERFLOW OR MORE THAN 5  PEOPLE. PART OF THE PEOPLE ON  THEM AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE  DOING FOR WORK AND THEN WE'LL  SWITCH SO EVERYBODY GETS AN  OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN ALL  STATIONS JUST COME HAVE FUN  WITH IT MAKING YOUR OWN IT'S  NOT SCARY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO  BE INTIMIDATING AT ALL YOU'RE  USING YOUR BODY WEIGHT USING  THE ANGLES THAT YOU CHOOSE TO  USE ON THE MAN'S AND IT JUST  VARIES WITH HOW YOU'RE  COMFORTABLE AND HOW YOU'RE  FEELING WHEN YOU'RE HERE.  >> STARTED CHARLOTTE COUNTY  UTILITIES AS A METER READER IN  2004. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE  I GOT MY FOOT IN THE DOOR AND  WANT REACH A POINT MY LIFE OR  THINGS ARE MORE STABLE AND I  DECIDED TO LEAVE CHARLOTTE  COUNTY UTILITIES. AND I WENT  AND GOT MY INTERNS LICENSE  THOSE VERY EXCITING DOING THAT  FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,  BUT AFTER A WHILE I STARTED  THINKING ABOUT THE UTILITY. IT  WAS IN MY HEART AT THIS POINT  I HAD ALMOST 12 JUST 2 MONTHS,  SHY OF 12 YEARS AND AND SO I  REALIZED DURING THAT TIME. MY  HEART WAS IN UTILITIES AND SO  I STARTED LOOKING AROUND AGAIN  I THINK OPENING HERE TO BE  SEEING IN THE SO I APPLIED AND  I GOT IN TYPICALLY I GET HERE  AT 7 IN THE MORNING. I GET MY  LIST YOU KNOW IF I CAN GET TO  THIS THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO DO  AND.  >> I GET IN MY TRUCK, IF I  NEED ANY SUPPLIES PARTS TOOLS  BASED OFF OF THE WORK I WAS  GIVEN THAT MORNING, I'LL PICK  THAT UP HERE AT OUR SHOP AND  THEN I HEAD OUT IN THEM.  MICHAEL FOR THE DAYS TO GET AS  MUCH WORK AS THAT WAS ASSIGNED  TO DONE AS POSSIBLE. AND  SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS AND  OTHER TIMES THERE'S A LOT OF  FIRST RESPONSE CALLS THAT COME  IN MY FAVORITE PART IS THE  UNIQUENESS NOT KNOWING WHAT  I'M GOING TO BE FACED WITH  EVERY DAY IT COULD BE  DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MUNDANE IN  ANY WAY.  >> AND IT'S EXCITING WHEN YOU  GET A CALL AND YOU'RE YOU'RE  ON YOUR WAY YOU DON'T KNOW  WHAT IT IS AND YOU YOU HAVE  THE EXPERIENCE AND THE  KNOW-HOW AND THE BACKING TO  FACE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE  SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN  FACING THESE CALLS AND I THINK  THAT'S FRONT PART.  >> HI I MALAYNIA THIS IS  ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M  GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR  FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS  TOO.  ♪ TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE WHY  HASN'T THE CITY STOPPED PEOPLE  AND BUSINESSES FROM BUILDING  IN NORTH PORT THE SHORT ANSWER  IS WE CAN'T IF SOMEONE IS HAS  AND THEY COMPLY WITH THE  ZONING AND THE CONFERENCE OF  PLAN  ♪ STATE LAW MANDATES THAT WE  ALLOW THEM TO BUILD. FLORIDA  IS A VERY INTENSIVE PROPERTY  RIGHTS STATE SO WHAT WE CAN DO  IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY COMPLY  WITH ORDINANCES. PORT WAS  ALWAYS EXPECTED TO GROW FROM  ITS INCEPTION WITH ALL OF THE  LOTS LAID-OUT AND SOLD OFF TO  INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.  NORTH PORT WAS EXPECTED TO  HAVE A POPULATION AROUND  270,000 PEOPLE WITH ULDC THAT  WE'RE CURRENTLY WRITING WE  PROJECT THAT THAT NUMBER WILL  FALL ABOUT 250,000 PEOPLE AS  LONG AS SOMEONE IS COMPLYING  WITH OUR CODES THEY ARE  ALLOWED TO BUILD. BUT WE WANT  TO ENSURE THAT THAT BUILDING  THAT THEY DO WILL BE  BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY AND ITS  RESIDENTS. HI I MALAYNIA THIS  IS ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M  GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR  FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.  WHY ISN'T THE CITY WORKING TO  BRING IN NEW AND INTERESTING  BUSINESSES WE ARE. MOST LARGER  BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING FOR A  CERTAIN DENSITY FOR POPULATION  AND MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME.  NORTH PORT IS ON THE CUSP OF  HITTING BOTH OF THOSE TARGETS.  ♪ MANY COMPANIES WANT TO SEE A  MEDIAN INCOME OF $75,000 PER  HOUSEHOLD NORTH PORT JUST HIT  78,000 ADDITIONALLY MANY  COMPANIES WANT TO ENSURE THERE  IS LEAST A 100,000 PEOPLE  WITHIN A  ♪ SPECIFIC RADIUS OF WHERE  THEY'RE LOOKING TO LOCATE.  NORTH PORT. IT'S JUST UNDER  100,000 AT APPROXIMATELY  93,000 AS OF 2024. SO WE ARE  VERY CLOSE TO  ADDITIONALLY NORTH PORT HAS AN  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION  THAT IS RECRUITING AND TALKING  WITH BUSINESSES EVERY SINGLE  DAY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES NORTH  PORT LOVES ITS MOM AND POPS WE  HAVE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS THAT  START OUT AS FOOD TRUCKS AND  MANY INTERESTING STORES THAT  STARTED IN SOMEONE'S GARAGE OR  ON THEIR DINING ROOM TABLE WE  ARE VERY BUSINESS FRIENDLY.  AND WE WANT TO HELP OUR SMALL  BUSINESSES GROW AND THRIVE WE  HAVE A TEAM DEDICATED TO  ENSURING OUR BUSINESSES IN  PORT HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY  NEED IN ORDER TO HAVE A LONG  AND PRODUCTIVE FUTURE IN OUR  CITY. HI I MALAYNIA THIS IS  ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M  GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR  FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.  CAN A BUSINESS BE BUILT RIGHT  NEXT DOOR TO MY HOME. IT'S A  PENCE ONE OF THE BIGGEST  FACTORS IS HOW MUCH LAND DOES  THAT PROPERTY OWNER, HALF IN  ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO PUT NEW  DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY THEY  HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH LAND FOR  PARKING BUFFERS STORM WATER  TREE CONSERVATION AND ALL OF  THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO  BUILDING A NEW FACILITY THAT'S  GOING TO MEAN THAT SOMEONE IS  NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME  IN AND PUT A NEW BUSINESS ON A  QUARTER ACRE LOT RIGHT NEXT TO  YOUR HOME THEY'RE GOING TO  HAVE TO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY  MORE LAND THAN THAT BUSINESSES  ALSO TYPICALLY LIKE TO HAVE  FRONTAGE ON A MAIN ROAD SO ANY  BUSINESS THAT COMES IN IT'S  GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR THAT  ACCESS. THAT MAY MEAN THAT  THEY HAVE TO BUY NUMEROUS LOTS  IN ORDER TO HAVE ENOUGH LAND  TO DEVELOP AND TO GET THE  ACCESS ON THE MAIN ROADS THAT  THEY WANT. THE ULDC REWRITE  THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DRAFTING  HAS PROTECTIONS FOR CURRENT  RESIDENTS. SO THAT IF A  BUSINESS DOES LOCATE NEAR YOUR  HOME. WE WILL HAVE ADEQUATE  BUFFERS AND PROTECTIONS TO  ENSURE THAT YOU CAN STILL  ENJOY YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE.  >> I DECIDED TO BECOME A  FIREFIGHTER USED TO WORK  HOSPITALITY GROUP SALES AND I  ALWAYS HAD FRIENDS THAT WORK.  FIREFIGHTERS AND I DECIDED ONE  DAY THAT I WANTED AND MY JOB  DONE FOR PEOPLE SO.  >> I WENT AHEAD UT AND  PARAMEDIC PROGRAM WITH THE  FIRE AND  ♪ I SAW A NORTH WE'RE HIRING.  >> AND REALLY LIKED WHAT THEY  HAD ON BETWEEN THEIR ISO  RATING BELIEFS AND VALUES AND  EVERYTHING 5, 5, THEY GAVE ME  AN OPPORTUNITY EVERY DAY IS  DIFFERENT BUT FOR THE MOST  PART WE START OFF THE SAME.  ♪ WHAT WAS GET OUR YEAR ONTO  THE. BRAD US MAKE SURE  EVERYTHING'S OPERATIONAL AND  OUR AIR PACK. ALSO CHECKED  INVENTORY.  ♪ MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OUR  MEDICAL EQUIPMENT.  EVERYTHING'S THAT WAY YOU CAN  RESPOND TO ANY EMERGENCY SO  WE'RE ALWAYS STOCKED AND READY  TO I THINK THE BEST PART IS  EVERYONE'S PASSION ABOUT THEIR  JOB. SO THEY COME TO WORK AND  THEY'RE READY TO TRAIN AND  TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND  TEACH EACH OTHER SO EVERYONE  SHARPENED ON THEIR A GAME  ♪ SO IT MAKES IT OFTEN AND I  JUST LOOK FORWARD TO COME TO  WORK.  >> ALWAYS GET VERY EXCITED  WHEN ANYBODY ASKS ME ABOUT MY  JOB AND WHERE I WORK AND WHAT  I DO IT'S NOT A SECRET THAT I  LOVE WORKING FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT I WORKED FOR  CHARLOTTE COUNTY AND I FELT  THAT I NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING  DIFFERENT AND I WANTED  SOMETHING MORE AND I WANT  OFFER MY SKILLS TO TELL MY  FRIEND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO  AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT MY  NEXT STEPS AND SHE SAID DID  YOU THINK ABOUT APPLYING TO A  JOB. THE CITY OF NORTH PORT  THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT VIBE  HERE AND SHE SAID LOVE IT AND  I SAID I COULD THINK ABOUT  THAT SO I APPLIED AND I  STARTED MY FIRST POSITION IN A  PLANNING AND ZONING IN OUR  DEVELOPMENT SERVICES  DEPARTMENT I'M PARTNERED WITH  THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT  BECAUSE MY MIND THE FEES ARE  ASSESSED OFF OF BUILDING  PERMITS AND IT'S STRICTLY FOR  NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW  DEVELOPMENT.  ♪ AND THE FIRST THING I DO IS TO  CHECK THE SPREADSHEET TO LOOK  AT THE PERMITS AND DETERMINED  WHICH ONES NEED ME TO ESTIMATE  THEIR IMPACT FEES AND THAT'S  WHY START WITH THAT THEN I GO  TO NUMBERS THAT I HAVE TO PUT  TOGETHER AND I PUT TOGETHER  INVOICES FOR DEVELOPERS OFTEN  TIMES GET PHONE CALL TO GET  VOTES BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT  COMES THROUGH AND SO  DEVELOPERS WANT TO KNOW HOW  MUCH THEY CAN BUDGET FOR  SOMETIMES I PUT PROPOSED  ESTIMATE TO HELP THEM  ♪ LIKE THAT. THE BULK OF IT IS  IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE FEES  ARE IN THE SYSTEM FAST AS  POSSIBLE. I LOVE THE ESPRIT DE  CORPS THAT EXPERIENCE. JUST  HOW EVERYBODY TEAMWORK  TOGETHER I I ENJOY KNOWING  THAT I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE  FOR THE CITY AND THAT MY  POSITION CAN HAVE A POSITIVE  IMPACT FOR OUR CITY.  ♪ PROMISE ALWAYS MANAGES TO THE  NORTH PORT.  >> HERE TODAY, WITH MARY OF  ANY PLAYER SCHEDULE FOR THE  CITY OF NORTH PORT SOLID WASTE  DIVISION WE'RE GOING TO TALK  ABOUT PICKUPS TODAY. I HAD A  SCHEDULED VOTE PICKUPS WHAT  SHOULD GO OUT AND WHAT SHOULD  NOT GO OUT TO THE CURRENT  WHERE TO PLACE THE ITEM TO  THEM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE  MORE THAN WHAT A LOT OF CHIEF  OF THE YEAR PICK UP. SO I KNOW  WE CALL 9, 4, 1, 2, 4, 0, 8,  0, 50 TALK TO OUR CUSTOMER  SERVICE REPS THAT'S CORRECT  HOW TO PICKUP HOW ELSE CAN WE  DO THAT.  >> CAN ALSO GO ON A  WEBSITE NORTH PORT FL DOT  CLICK ON SOLID WASTE AND FILL  OUT A BULK REQUEST FOR  EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SCENARIO  WHEN IN DOUBT.  >> IF A PERSON WANTS TO PLAY  SET OUT WHAT YOU THINK PLACE  OUT WHAT'S RIGHT THING WAS THE  WRONG THING BASICALLY FRANK  ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN  THE CONTAINER THAT'S GARBAGE  IS GOING TO GO CURBSIDE GOING  TO STAY OFF DRIVEWAYS WHAT'S  NOT ACCEPT THAT IS TIRES  CHEMICALS.  >> STUFF LIKE THAT YOU CAN PUT  YARD WASTE OUT THAT'S  CONSIDERED BALK BUT JUST MAKE  SURE IT'S SEPARATE FROM  GARBAGE PILE CONWAY SAYS A  SEPARATE PICKUP, SO WHAT  HAPPENS IF I USE ALL MY UP  BOTH THE COUNTRY COULD  QUESTION. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE  BUT HAVE TO PAY IT CAN BE 1658  CUBIC YARD AND THAT'S LINKED  TIMES WITH TIME TIGHT DIVIDED  BY 27 IS ONE COULD PICK ANY  QUESTIONS OF COURSE LET'S NOT  GIVE US A CALL 941-240-8050.  >> I'M STACEY LOVES OF  EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR CITY  WORK AND I'M GOING DISCUSS  FIRST RESPONDERS AFTER STORM,  SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE FOR  FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET THE  STORM AND DUE TO A VARIETY OF  REASONS. ONE ALL FIRST  RESPONDERS OFF THE ROADS, THE  TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE  SUSTAINED FOR THEIR SAFETY  THAT IS A STANDARD USUALLY  COSTS AND OTHER SO WE WILL  HAVE A BACKLOG CALLS THAT HAVE  COME IN DURING THE STORM THAT  WILL PRIORITIZE BASED AND  RESPONDING TO AS WELL AS THE  CALLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON  THEM. ALSO ON THE ROADS MIGHT  BE FLOODED. THERE MIGHT BE  DEBRIS IN THE ROADS ARE  TECHNICAL FIRST IN TEAMS WILL  BE GOING OUT RIGHT AWAY TO  CLEAR THE ROADS ANY HOUSERS A  SKILL THAT OUR VEHICLES CAN  GET THROUGH AND RESPOND  ♪ THE CAUSE. JUST KEEP THAT IN  MIND WHEN YOU CALL AFTER  DISASTER FOR CITIZENS, WE ARE  COMING. WE ARE VERY IMPORTANT  AS WE CARE ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS  AND THEIR SAFETY BUT IT MAY  JUST TAKE A WHILE FOR US TO  GET TO THE ON LIST OF  ♪ THE  >> I'M STACEY LOS. YOU KNOW ON  THE EMERGENCY AND BE A PART IT  IS THEY ARE GOING SEE STORM  SURGE FLOODING OVER NEXT OR SO  STORM SURGE IS STRONG  SUSTAINED WHEN ARE CONSTANTLY  GOING OVER A LONG PERIOD OF  TIME OVER THE GOAL PUSHING  WATER UP TO SHORE NOT HAPPEN.  THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODING A  LOT OF BEACH EROSION ALONG  TEACHER AND THE HOME. HOWEVER  THIS STORM CAN ALSO PUSH WATER  OF THE RIVER PUSHED ON THE  MYAKKA RIVER FOR INSTANCE, THE  GULF AND THEN THE WATER COMING  DOWNSTREAM FROM THE RIVER HAS  ORDERED TO DO. BECAUSE WATER  TO BACK FLOODING THAT ALONG  WITH A LOT OF RAIN THAT COMES  FROM ALSO CAUSED INCREASE OF  WATER FLOODING INTO THE RIVER  ♪ AND INTO OUR WATER MANAGEMENT  CAUSING FLOODING WELL. PUBLIC  WORKS WITH A LOT OF WORK  BEFORE THE STORM TO MAKE SURE  THAT OUR WATER LEVELS POSSIBLE  FOR WEAKNESS WANT JUST STORM  SURGE AND FLOODING IN OUR  WATER SYSTEMS IF YOU WANT  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON  ♪ THAT WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL  ABOUT A LOT FOLKS  >> HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS  THE VAN PULL SOME OF THE  AQUATICS MANAGER WITHIN OUR  PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT  WERE HERE TODAY AT THE NORTH  PORT AQUATIC CENTER JUST TO  TALK TO EVERYONE ABOUT OUR  FLOW FOR LIFE PROGRAM WE  RECOGNIZE THAT NATIONALLY  UNINTENTIONAL DROWNING IS THE  LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR  CHILDREN THAT ARE UNDER THE  AGE OF SO WE HAVE AN AWESOME  PROGRAM HERE CALLED FLOAT FOR  LIFE. BLOW FOR LIFE IS A  PROGRAM THAT WE TEACH THAT  STARTS WITH THE FUNDAMENTALS  FLOATING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY  LEARNED SWIMMING. THIS PROGRAM  IS TARGETED FOR THOSE CHILDREN  AGES 6 MONTHS TO 4 AND WHAT WE  WANT THEM TO DO IS WE WANT  THEM TO GET COMFORTABLE IN THE  WATER AND IF THEY ACTUALLY  FALL IN THE WATER OR FIND  THEMSELVES IN A TROUBLED  SITUATION, THEY CAN ROLL OVER  THEIR BACK AND FLOAT WHEN WE  LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM WE WERE  THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE THAT  WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING THIS  MILESTONE PROGRAM SO WANT TO  GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR NORTH  ROTARY AS WELL WHO SPONSORED  THIS PROGRAM HERE AT THE  AQUATIC CENTER AND ACTUALLY  PAY FOR A TRAINER TO COME ALL  THE WAY FROM NEBRASKA WHERE  THIS PROGRAM ORIGINATES THERE  WE PRACTICE AND WE GO THROUGH  WHAT'S CALLED MILESTONES HERE  SO AS SOON AS THE KIDS  PROGRESSIVE, THE MILESTONE WE  CAN CONTINUE MOVING ON THROUGH  THEM AND AT THE END OF IT IT'S  A PRETTY AWESOME PROGRAM WHEN  THEY GRADUATE AS ONE OF THE  FINAL THINGS THAT THEY DO IS  THEY JUMP IN FULLY CLOTHED AND  THEY HAVE TO TURN OVER ROLL  OVER ON THEIR BACK AND  ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SCREAM FOR  HELP AND THAT POINT IN TIME,  IT'S JUST AN AWESOME SEGMENT  PROGRAM THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO  OUR LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM SO  THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE  WE'RE KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE IN  ON AND AROUND THE WATER.  >> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER  I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW  REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL  PEOPLE HERE HAVE ONLY BEEN  DOING THIS JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE  5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT  EXCELLENT SO TELL PEOPLE WHAT  IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO. THE  PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR SOLID  WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT AND  AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS  TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON  RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS  INTERESTING VERY SO MARIO WHAT  DO YOU FIND INSIDE THE  RECYCLING SHOULDN'T BE THERE  SO LET'S TRY TO TELL THE  PEOPLE HOW TO RECYCLE  ♪ MOST COMMON THING I FIND  FRANCIS PLASTIC BAGS.  >> SO START TO NOT RECYCLABLE  I FIND JUST POSTING THE  CONTAINER OR THE BAD THE  RECYCLE WITH HIM SHOULD SIDE  COUNTRY THAT'S RIGHT INSIDE  THE  ♪ BLUE CONTAINERS. AND THEY  SHOULD BE YOU TAKEN BACK TO  THE GROCERY STORE OR TOSS IN  THE TRASH EVERY YOU SEE A LOT  OF RECYCLING INSIDE THE  CONTAINERS I COME ACROSS A LOT  WANT TO DO THAT SO.  >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK  AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH  PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH  SOLID WASTE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING  TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S  IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND  WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT,  IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG  BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST  MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE  DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS  THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET  AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET  EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S  IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS  SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE  PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME  AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR  BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR  HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE  DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND  THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T  WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE  AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE  THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK  ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU  MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF  TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF  EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO  REFILL YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS  AHEAD OF TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE  NOT DO YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT  TO DO THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAGS YOU SHOULD HAVE  NON-PERISHABLE FOOD FLASHLIGHT  BATTERIES, A RADIO THAT IS  BATTERY POWERED AND EXTRA  BATTERIES SHOULD ALL POWER GO  OUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO  BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY  EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE  SURE TO HAVE  ♪ BATTERY POWERED RADIO READY  AND TUNED IN TO 97 POINT.  >> I'M STACEY LOS SALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN FLOOD ZONES AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS.  >> SO FLOOD ZONES ARE  GENERATED BY FEMA AND THEY'RE  USED TO DETERMINE THE  LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL FLOOD  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  IF YOU NEED FLOOD INSURANCE IF  YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE ON YOUR  HOME. NOW THE EVACUATION ZONES  ARE BASED ON STORM SURGE DATA  THAT COMES FROM THE NATIONAL  HURRICANE CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER STORM EVENT  WATER SHOULD  ♪ BE IN THAT SWELL UP TO 72  HOURS AFTER THE STORM. THAT  ALLOWS THE FILTER TO GET THE  STUFF ROOFS AND THE ROAD OUT  OF THE WATER SO THAT WHEN  REACHES THE HABITAT IT NO  LONGER HAS THOSE CONTAMINANTS  ♪ IT ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY  TO SLOW DOWN WATERS SO THAT  THE WATER DOESN'T GO SO FAST  THAT THEIR ROADS. ROADWAYS OR  ANY OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, SO  WHEN YOU SEE WATER IN ONLY YOU  KNOW UP TO  ♪ 72 HOURS SINCE THE LAST RAIN  THAT IS NOT LETTING THAT IS  DOING ITS JOB.  >> HELLO MY NAME'S A VAN FULL  PRODUCTS FACILITY MANAGER WITH  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND  TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE  TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT  OUR FREE FROM A VALUATION IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED  EVALUATIONS SO KIDS  REGISTERING FOR SWIM PROGRAMS  THEY GET PLACED IN THE RIGHT  CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  MORE DOING THAT'S SOMETHING  THAT YOU ATION IS EVERY SWIM  LEVEL HAS WHAT'S CALLED EXIT  SKILL ASSESSMENTS. SO WHAT WE  DO IS WE HAVE YOUR CHILD GET  IN THE WATER AND WILL GO  THROUGH A SERIES OF DIFFERENT  MOVEMENTS CAN YOU GO INTO THE  WATER I CAN YOU SHOW US YOUR  PHONE CALL CAN YOU SHOW US  BACK ALL SHOWS ELEMENTARY BACK  DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN AND  WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE  TRYING TO SEE. YOUR CHILD TEST  TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A  CHALLENGE FOR AT THAT POINT  WHAT WE ASSESS THAT THAT WILL  LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN GO  AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD UP  FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL  THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE  HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN  WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE  DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD  POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND  LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM  A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT FOR  EVERYBODY IN YOUR FAMILY CAN  SEE IT AND KEEP IT FRESH IN  THEIR MINDS AND YOU WANT TO  ALSO SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE IN  YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR NEIGHBORS  SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT YOUR  PLANS ARE AHEAD OF TIME AND  HOW TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR WAY  TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER A  DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION  YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE  ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION.  YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST  BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON  75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE  COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK  ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE  GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE  MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING  STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE  MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE  FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN  STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE  YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO  GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S  HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE  EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS  STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND  THE STORM OPTION WOULD BE GO  TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH MORE  COMFORTABLE THAN I BACK AWAY  SHUNS CENTER'S 4TH OPTION  WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE OF OUR  EVACUATION CENTER SARASOTA  COUNTY HAS FALLEN BACK AWAY  SHUNS CENTER'S.  >> THOSE CAN BE FOUND  ♪ >> ON THEIR WEBSITE  COMMISSIONER EVERYTHING THERE.  YES OKAY.  >> THINK THE GAVEL.  >> IT HARD.  >> K IS 1245 AND WE'RE  RECONVENING OUR MEETING.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON IT HURT.  EXCUSES THAT SHE HAD PRIOR  COMMITMENT TO SHE WILL NOT BE  HERE FOR THIS THE REST OF THIS  SESSION. DO HAVE A FOR MOVING  ON ITEM.  24 DASH. 1, 1, 0, 3, CITY  MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> ARE DESIGNED DISCUSSION  POSSIBLE MINUTES. SO THE  DEVELOPMENT REVIEW NATURAL  RESOURCES. CITY GO TO THE NEXT  DAY. STRUCTURE STRUCTURE TO  PROVIDE CONSISTENCY WITH THE  PROPOSED UNIFIED LAND  DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE HAVE  TODAY THIS MORNING IS A  DIRECTOR OF THE BOAT SERVICES  TO LEAD US THROUGH A PRETTY  PRESENTATION QUESTIONS. ALL  RIGHT, THANK YOU.  >> WELL FAR GOOD AFTERNOON  MORE BONDS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR  DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I DO NOT  HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION  FOR YOU, BUT I WANTED OPEN  WITH SOME. COMMENTARY WE HAD  HOPED TO PRESENT THE SCHEDULE  TO THE COMMISSION ON AUGUST 6  AND RESOLUTION FORM HOWEVER,  SOME LEGAL ISSUES HAVE ARISEN  REGARDING THE FINANCE  DEPARTMENT'S. CITY WHY THE  SCHEDULE AMENDMENT.  >> WHEREIN THEY WERE PLANNING  TO REPEAL THE FEE SCHEDULE  FROM THE CITY CODE AND ADOPT  RESOLUTION. THE LEGAL  DEPARTMENT HAS UNCOVERED SOME  ISSUES SO THAT EFFORT HAS BEEN  DELAYED THEREFORE DELAYING OUR  EFFORT BRING RESOLUTION TO YOU  WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PLENTY OF  TIME BETWEEN THE ADOPTION OF  THE ULDC ON AUGUST 6TH AND THE  EFFECTIVE DATE OF OCTOBER 28  TO BRING THE SCHEDULE FOR THE  DEVELOPMENT PETITIONS IN  PLANNING AND ZONING  DEPARTMENT. WHAT YOU HAVE  BEFORE YOU TODAY AS THE DRAFT.  PREPARED AND PLACED ON THE  AGENDA FOR TUESDAY, RATHER  QUICKLY IN LIGHT OF NEW  INFORMATION IN THE CITY  ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I HAD  INTENDED TO HAVE I HAVE.  ANTECIPATED HAVING ANOTHER 2  WEEKS TO WORK ON THIS IS  SCHEDULE FOR WHICH IS WHY YOU  SAW THE AGENDA UP 8 WHEN I WAS  ABLE TO ADD IN ALL THE  DISTRICT, IT'S SO THE DROUGHT  SHOW THE PLANNING AND ZONING  AND NATURAL RESOURCES IS  ASSOCIATED WITH THE VARIOUS  APPLICATION REVIEWS. AS WELL  AS THE FIRE READ AND DRAINAGE  AND UTILITY DISTRICT  ALLOCATIONS NOW I'VE BEEN TOLD  BY A LONG-TERM STAFF MEMBER  THAT ON A DISTRICT HE'S WERE  CODIFIED SEPARATELY A WAR  DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. ROAD AND  DRAINAGE HIGHER AND UTILITIES  HOWEVER AT SOME POINT THOSE  WERE TAKEN OUT OF AND INSTEAD  THEY WERE ALLOCATED. AND THE  BACK OFFICE OF NOW ON WHEN WE  RECEIVED PAYMENTS FOR  DEVELOPMENT PETITIONS WE WOULD  LIKE TO INCORPORATE THEM AND  THE IS CATCHALL FOR FULL  TRANSPARENCY WHERE THERE WERE  NEW APPLICATION TYPES WE  SELECTED THE FEES FROM MOST  CLOSELY RELATED EXISTING.  PETITION TYPES FOR THOSE  DISTRICT AIDS. WE REMEMBER THE  BUILDING THESE MANY OF THE  DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS BECAUSE  ALTHOUGH THEY WERE INCLUDED IN  THE DRC. THEY WERE NOT ADDING  VALUE. THEIR ROLE IS REALLY  WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING  PERMITS FOR VERTICAL  CONSTRUCTION RATHER SITE  REVIEW. SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE  DIFFERENCES. WE DID RATHER  THAN SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARE THE  EXISTING TO THE NEW WE  PROVIDED INFORMATIONAL NOW  IT'S ON THE EXISTING SCHEDULE  AND THEN THE DRAFT IS  SCHEDULED SEPARATELY HONESTLY  WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE UNHOLY  MESS TO TRY TO.  >> COMPARE SIDE BY SIDE ON THE  SAME DOCTOR NOT SO. I I HAVE  TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS  DUE. I FIRST HEARD THAT TERM  FROM DIRECTOR LINA AND IT IS  SO APPROPRIATE AND MANY OF  CASES WHERE WE'RE MAKING  AMENDMENTS AND IT'S JUST SO  MESSY. HAVE TO YES. YES.  >> SO MALE I HAD ASKED A  QUESTION ON REGARDING THE  ENVIRONMENTAL. PROTECTION  MITIGATION I THINK THAT IS ON  PAGE 4. I WILL TELL YOU THAT  MY PLAN IS TO SLIDE UP TO BE  CLOSER TO THE CERTIFICATE  ZONING COMPLIANCE WHERE THE.  >> TREE REMOVAL AND UNDER  BASHAR SO THAT IT WON'T BE  MESSED UP AND THAT IS A FLAT  8,000 AS A FLAT FEE OF 8,000  QUESTION ABOUT THAT.  >> YOU  >> HAVE ANY IDEA BROWN WAS  WHERE THOSE MITIGATION PHASE  RUNNING LIKE. WHEN WE WERE  DOING IS IS NOT GOING TO BE  TREE BY TREE ANYMORE.  >> IT WILL BE A TREE BY TREE  IF THEY CHOOSE TO THEY JUST IF  THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO OUR  MITIGATION IS WE'RE RANGING  ANYWHERE FROM 2002. TO 15,000.  THE AVERAGE IS SOMEWHERE IN  THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 2. 2 TO 3.  SO. WE TRIED TO SET OF A THAT  WOULD PROVIDE FOR SOME BALANCE  IT MIGHT OFFER SOME COST  SAVINGS TO SOMEONE WHO HAS A  HEAVILY WOODED SITE. BUT IT  ALSO WOULD. IS THE BURDEN ON  SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A  HEAVILY WOODED SITE THAT HAS A  OF THE TIME AND EXPENSE OF ALL  TREE SURVEY CONDUCTED AND  GOING THROUGH ALL THE TREE  MEDICATION ANALYSIS TREE BY  TREE.  >> OKAY, THANK YOU AND IT  WOULD PROBABLY WORK OUT TO  THAT ANYWAY LIKE YOU SAID WE  DON'T THE BREAKDOWN BUT I'M  ASSUMING THE $15,000. ONE IS  MORE TOWARDS LIKE I WAS OUT  THERE NOT TOO LONG AGO WHEN  SOMEONE IS CLEARING 3 AND A  LOT OF PINE PILED ON THE SIDE  OF THE ROAD. SO THAT WOULD  PROBABLY BUT WHAT WARRANT A  $15,000.  >> YES IN A STATE SIZE LAW OR  2 OR 3 LOT BY INSIDE PORT  PROPERTY AREA. SO YES WE TRIED  TO PROVIDE THAT BALANCE  BECAUSE IT DOES REDUCE THE  BURDEN ON THE HOMEOWNER AS FAR  TIME AND EXPENSE. OUR  PREPARATION OF THOSE DOCUMENTS  AND ALSO REDUCE SOME OF THE  BURDEN ON OUR STAFF TIME AS  FAR AS REVIEWING.  >> I WAS MEDICATION  CALCULATION SHEETS AND OKAY  AND THEN MITIGATION.  >> INCH DIAMETER THAT IS A  100. HERITAGE TREES WITH  BEFORE YES DOES NOT CHANGE  THEY GET OKAY.  >> AND THAT THE $50 PER  DIAMETER AND IS FOR ALL ALL  OTHER. NATHAN WHATEVER PROTECT  ADDRESS YESTERDAY RIGHT OKAY,  I JUST WANT ME. SURE I'M SORRY  SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE RESEARCH  BUT I THOUGHT I JUST ASK THE  QUESTION. TAKE THE EASY WAY  OUT OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR  THAT ANYBODY ELSE HAVE SHOT.  >> BUT SEEING COMMISSIONER  EMERICH DID YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS ON THIS.  >> NO MA'AM.  >> OKAY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH,  >> I HAD IT ON MY LIST TO TALK  ABOUT ON TUESDAY. BUT I JUST  GIVE UP TALKING ABOUT MY LIST.  WHERE IS IT IN THE CODE THAT  DIFFERENTIATES THE. WHEN YOU  CAN USE FULL TREE SURVEY AND  WHEN THERE IS THE $8,000 I  COULDN'T FIND $1000 I KNOW  IT'S THE FEE FEE IS NOT  REFERENCE SAYING WHAT THEY'RE  SAYING WHAT IS IT.  >> WHAT IS THE CODE SECTION  THAT DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN  THE 2.  >> IT'S ON THAT AND I LOOK AT  YOU THAT REFERENCE.  >> THANK YOU.  IT IS.  >> 0.7 POINTS OR POINT WON.  AND THE AT THE OPTION OF THE  PROPERTY OWNER, INSTEAD OF  PROVIDING A TREE SURVEY AND  MITIGATION PER TREE REMOVED.  CLEARING AND TREATMENT REMOVAL  MAY BE AUTHORIZED OBJECT A  PAYMENT OF THE MONTH  ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION FEE  PER THE CITY THE SCHEDULE.  HOWEVER IF THE HERITAGE ON THE  PROPERTY. I'M NOT RESOURCES  DIVISION STAFF ON INITIAL SITE  INSPECTION. PAYMENT OF THE  HERITAGE TREE REMOVAL FEE PER  THE CITY IS NATURAL. WE'LL  ALSO BE REQUIRED UNLESS THE  TREE IS IDENTIFIED FOR  PRESERVATION AND THE RIP IYER  TREE PROTECTION ZONE BARRIER  IS INSTALLED AND MAINTAINED  THROUGH THE COURSE OF  DEVELOPMENT.  >> AND THANKS FOR CLARIFYING  THAT I THAT WAS THE SECOND  PART THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE  I WAS READING THAT CORRECTLY  THAT HERITAGE TREES WOULD  STILL RECEIVE THEIR OWN  SEPARATE MITIGATION THAT AND A  $100 FOR DIAMETER.  >> DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.  AND JUST HAVE TO SAY YOU KNOW  WE'VE COME A LONG WAY FROM  ONLY HAVING MITIGATION START  AT 30 INCHES I USED TO BRING A  POSTER BOARD WITH ME BECAUSE  THAT'S 30 INCHES. THAT'S WHEN  WE STARTED ANY MITIGATION  WHICH ONLY REALLY COULD APPLY  TO OAKS A SUPINE EVEN THAT  REALLY BIG PINE THAT WAS ON  SUMPTER BY CREEK DEVELOPMENT  THERE. I HAVE A PICTURE OF ME  STANDING UNDER AND I LOVE IT  BECAUSE I LOOK AND LOOK HAS  THAT TREE AND THEN TAKE THAT  AT LEAST 15 YEARS AGO.  >> THAT WAS A BIG TRAY AND IT  STILL WASN'T A 30 INCH  DIAMETER TREES SO ON THE DEAL  ORDINANCE YOU KNOW I WOULD  HAVE JUST. GOT NOTHING FOR ITS  REMOVAL. SO I JUST WANT PUT  THAT OUT THERE.  >> I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE  QUEUE SO. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.  SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.  TO DO SINCE ACTION NO ACTION  REQUIRED.  >> AND I'M NOT AMERICAN AND  COMMISSION ENCLOSED AND.  >> WE CARE IS THESE BASED ON  OUR ESTIMATE TIME INVESTMENT.  >> AND PREPARATION AND REVIEW  AND PREPARATION OF ALL THE  DOCUMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH  THOSE PROJECTS COME TO THE.  >> PLANNING AND ZONING  ADVISORY BOARD AND THE CITY  COMMISSION. THE DISTRICT THE  BASIS OF I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE  AS THEY WERE SET. HOWEVER MANY  YEARS AGO. I CAN TELL YOU THAT  WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE 20, I'VE  26 YEAR ALLOCATE SOME FUNDS TO  INDEPENDENT FEE STUDY. AND  CONJUNCTION WITH OUR DISTRICTS  AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE  ARE. CHARGING APPROPRIATE FEES  TOO. HOWEVER, THE FULL COSTS  OF STOP INVESTMENT OF TIME AND  THESE PROJECTS.  >> SURE CAN HIT. BACK IN 2020  THE COMMISSION DIRECTED FIRST  THE STUDY TO BE COMPLETED.  THEN IN JANUARY OF 2024. WE  DIRECTED IFFY ANALYSIS  COMPLETED. WAS GOING ASK WHEN  IS THAT GOING TO BE COMPLETED  BUT SINCE WE'RE THERE WAS NO  DIRECTIONS STUFF. WE HAD A  PROBLEM. PROBLEM WE HAD A  LITTLE BIT OF. FEEDBACK ABOUT  SEE STUDYING FROM LAST TIME.  AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON  WHY WE WANTED THIS FEE  ANALYSIS TO BE COMPLETED. WITH  YOUR STATEMENT NOW. IT DOESN'T  LOOK LIKE IT'S EVEN BEEN  STARTED.  >> THIS FUNNY AND  >> LET I FINANCE I BELIEVE AND  THE TIMING WAS SUCH ANALYZING  THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW EASE  PLANNING AND ZONING IS NATURAL  RESOURCES IS FOR REVIEW TYPES  AND DEVELOPMENT PETITION PIPES  THAT HAD NOT YET AND ADOPTED  OR STOP LIST. AND THEY GOT SO  THOSE DIDN'T ALIGN AND I'M  SURE THAT YOU KNOW FINANCE  WILL AT SOME POINT BE BRINGING  BACK.  >> THEY ARE INDEPENDENT THE  STUDY RESULTS, ALTHOUGH I'M  NOT AWARE OF TIMING AND I  HEAR.  >> THE  >> TIMING IS WITH US YEAH.  >> SO ANY IDEA WHEN WE'RE  GOING TO GET TOUGH, YOU KNOW  PLEADED AS IT STARTED ABOUT AN  UPDATE. AND THE FEW IN ALICE  IS THAT WE DIRECTED IN 2020  AND REDIRECTED IN 2024. I DO  NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION NOT  INITIATIVE THAT'S I START AS  INFORMATION.  >> YEAH LOOKING TO UPGRADE THE  RECORD I'M NOT REALLY WITH 50  OUNCE OF YOUR RECORDS 2020.  >> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT 16TH  TWENTY-TWENTY COMMISSION  DIRECTED THE STUDY TO BE  COMPLETED. THEN JANUARY CASE  OF 24 FEE ANALYSIS IS TO BE  COMPLETED AS WE DIRECTED.  >> REALLY WANT GET DO WITH  WHATEVER WAS WRECKED 2020. IT  WAS NOT A PART OF OUR  CONVERSATION. WE'VE SAID THAT  WE DO IT THE STALLION 2024. WE  WILL GET YOU AN UPDATE WHEN  THAT BECAUSE WE DO COME THE  FACT THAT WE HAD A QUESTION  REGARDING OUR. PROCESS OF HOW  WE DETERMINE OUR KEYS NOT  RELATED TO ANYTHING FROM 2020.  BUT DIRECTOR PROVIDE A BETTER  PICK.  >> THAT AFTERNOON NEIGHBORS.  >> SO YEAH, THERE'S STUDY  UNDERWAY. IF REMEMBER WE WENT  OUT AND ITS FOR THAT WE HAVE 2  RESPONDENTS WE SELECT THE ONE  THAT IS IN PROCESS BUT IT IS  NOT DONE  >> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS TO  INCLUDE. YOU YEARS THAT YES.  >> AND WHERE WE DO THE FEES AS  A PART OF THE BUDGET EVERY  YEAR. 2 BY THE TIME WE'VE  ADOPTED A BUDGET WE WANT TO  UPDATE ANY FEES THAT ARE TO BE  CALCULATED INTO THAT REVENUE.  THAT'S HOW FINANCE ENDS UP  LEADING IT BECAUSE THERE'S A  LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES THAT  ALL FEED INTO THE BUDGET.  >> I CHANCE TO MEET WHEN  THAT'S COMPLETED.  >> I WILL GO LOOK AT THAT WITH  JUST  >> THANK YOU  >> AND THERE'S NOTHING ELSE  AND YES I DID CHECK THAT WAS  THE LEGISLATIVE TEXT THAT SAID  NO ACTION REQUIRED BECAUSE ON  AGENDA DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  DIRECTION I WAS REMISS IN NOT.  >> LOOKING AT THE LEGISLATIVE  TEXT THAT STOP WAS WE WANTED  TO GET THE FEW SOME FRONT OF  YOU KNOWING THE ULDC ADOPTION  IS COMMON FORMULA OUR TIMELINE  FOR BRINGING US TO UNM  ORDINANCE AND THEN ALSO GET  ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU MIGHT  HAVE REGARDING THAT. HE'S THAT  WE'VE SET IF THERE IS NOT WILL  FORWARD WITH GETTING UP I KNOW  ORDINANCE SCHEDULED A PUBLIC  HEARING.  >> OK  >> I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH  YOU I REALLY DIDN'T REVIEW IT  BECAUSE I I WAS UNDER THE  IMPRESSION FEES WOULD BE  DISCUSSED. AS PART OF THE NOW  ASSISTED BEING COMPLETED. O I.  >> SO I GUESS I'LL HAVE MY  DISCUSSION POINT WHEN WE HAVE  FRUSTRATED. BECAUSE A LOT OF  THESE FEES INCREASED IN THAT  AND I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND  HOW AND BUT THAT'S I WANT  FIRST READING.  >> ON THAT YOU DID THAT WITH  THE DAY THAT GAVE TOBER.  >> IT WILL BE THE EFFECTIVE  DATE UNIFIED WHICH IS OCTOBER  20 IN WOULD ANTICIPATE. LIKE  SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER  >> ALL RIGHT THERE'S NOTHING  ELSE. WE WILL.  ♪ TO ITEM H 24 CASH. 1, 1, 0, 8,  CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR  IDEA.  >> REMEMBER AS DISCUSSED A  POSSIBLE ACTION. GARDEN CITY  COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021  DASH O DIVISION TRAVEL EXPECT  POLICY AND FACILITATION OF  COMMISSIONER BUDGETS FOR  EXPENSES FOR TRAINING  EDUCATION AND TRAVEL AND PER  REQUESTED BY OUT.  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL IS THANK  YOU. SO IN 2021, WE ADOPTED  THE POLICY. DURING THE COURSE  OF THAT CONVERSATION IT WE  STARTED TO BEGIN PRIOR TO  2021. WE ADOPT A POLICY THAT  WAS COMMISSION DISCUSSION. AND  IT WAS IN LIGHT OF THE  COMMISSIONER WHO'S TRAVEL WENT  OVER. THE TRAINING PORTION AND  OVER THE PER DIEM TRAVEL  PORTION. AND SO WE HAD TO  APPROVE OVER EACH. IT WAS  EXPLAINED AND IT WAS MY  UNDERSTANDING BOTH AT THAT  TIME AND WHEN WE ADOPT THIS  POLICY THAT AS LONG AS YOU  DIDN'T GO OVER THE TRAINING OR  PER DIEM PORTION OF THE  BREAKDOWN. YOU ARE GOOD. THEY  WERE LIKE COMBINE DOUBLE. I  USE THAT TERM BECAUSE THAT'S.  BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT'S NOT  REALLY HOW THE POLICY GOT  CAPTURED. GOING BACK AND FORTH  WITH THE ATTORNEY AND CITY  ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FINANCE  THE SAID THAT BECAUSE THERE'S  A CAVEAT IN OUR POLICY THIS IS  WE HAVE TO COMMISSION'S  APPROVAL. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE  THE WORD COMBINE DOUBLE FOR  THE TRAINING AND PER DIEM SO  THAT'S WHY AND BEFORE YOU.  THIS WOULD ALSO HELP CLARIFY  THAT PALM SEE BECAUSE. IN MY  OPINION IT WAS CLEAR THE  INTENT USING MY PHRASE ALL THE  TIME INTENT CAN'T ALWAYS BE  CAPTURED IN WORDS AND  SOMETIMES THINGS GET MISSED  AND I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT  EXAMPLE. SO SO THIS IS  TWO-FOLD THIS TO AMEND IT THE  POLICY THAT YOU CAN'T GO OVER  THOSE 2 NUMBERS WITHOUT COMING  BACK TO COMMISSION FOR  APPROVAL AND THEN APPROVED  BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE  TIME TO COME THROUGH THEN THE  SECOND PART IS TO ALLOW MY  TRAVEL TO BE COMBINE NOBLE  WITH THE TRAINING I AM NOT I  AM UNDERLINING IN BOLD FACING  NOT REQUESTING TO GO OVER 9200  TOTAL. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS  ABOUT OKAY AND I HOPE I  CAPTURE THAT CLEARLY AND  CONCISELY IN THE BACKGROUND  INFORMATION AND EXPLAINED IT  WELL. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS  PLEASE LET ME KNOW.  >> RUSSIA CAPTURED IT YOUR  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL HAHA  VERY DETAIL. SO LOOKING FOR 2  DIFFERENT YESTERDAY, NOT OKAY.  DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT  THAT OR. COMMISSIONER EMERGED  ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. CAN  YOU DO YES AND I WE CAN SEE  YOU. I I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS  WITH THIS. I LIKE IT AS IT IS  WORTH INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE THIS  WAY THERE'S TRANSPARENCY FOR  WHAT YOU COMMISSIONERS DO AND  WHAT WHAT TYPE OF TRAVEL AND  STUFF. I LIKE I WOULD HAVE NO  IDEA WHAT ANY OTHER  COMMISSIONER WOULD WANNA DO IF  I WANTED TO GO AND EXCEED THE  LIMITS OF MY PERSONAL TRAVEL  BUDGETS, I WOULDN'T WANT TO  TAKE FROM ANY OTHER. THAT'S  WHY I LIKE IT WERE IF YOU'RE  GOING TO EXCEED YOUR BUDGET.  IT COMES BACK TO COMMISSION  FOR APPROVAL TO SEE IF THAT'S  WARRANTED. PUTS THE ONUS ON  EACH COMMISSIONER TO  PRIORITIZE THEY'RE TRAVELED TO  BEST REPRESENT THE CITIZENS  CHECKS AND BALANCES. YOU KNOW  AND ALSO YOU DON'T HAVE TO  TRAVEL NOWADAYS TO GO TO ALL  THESE CONFERENCES THEY ARE  AVAILABLE. YOU KNOW VIRTUAL  BALL AND YOU CAN GO TO ANY  COMMITTEE ANY CONFERENCE ANY  OF THE CLASSES. THEY ARE  AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY STATE ALL  HAVE TRAVEL THERE TO BE  PERSON. YOU KNOW THERE IS SOME  SAVINGS IF YOU LOOK AT MY  RECORD ON TRAVEL. I HAVE NOT  EXCEEDED MY TRAVEL EXPENSES,  NOT HAVEN'T EVEN COME EVEN  CLOSE. SO IF YOU ARE OVER YOUR  TRAVEL BUDGET YOU NEED TO COME  BACK TO COMMISSION AND SAY HEY  THIS IS WHAT I NEED. THIS IS  WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR THE ALL  TROOPS. I THINK THAT'S THE  BEST WAY TO KEEP THIS POLICY  GOING SO I GOT MAYOR.  >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> I'M NOT ASKING TO EXCEED.  THE LOT THE YEARLY BUDGET IS  $9200. TRAINING PORTION IS  3200 AND I'M WELL BELOW THAT  TRAINING PORTION OF THE  BUDGET. I TRAVEL PER DIEM I'M  STILL BELOW BUT FLC CONFERENCE  WILL PUT ME OVER. AND I'VE  ALSO HELD BACK ON SOME OF MY  MILEAGE REQUESTS FOR THE  COMMITTEES THAT I ATTEND THAT  ARE OUT OF THE AREA. SO AND  AGAIN NOT SEEKING TO GO OVER  THE 9200 I'M JUST ASKING TO  USE MY TRAINING BUDGET WHICH  IS LIKE ALMOST $2000 WOW. TO  MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE FROM MY  TRAVEL PER DIEM PART OF THE  BUDGET. ICE THERE DID YOU HAVE  ANYTHING  >> I'M NOT I MEAN.  >> ALL WORK THE WAY IT WORKS  UP UNTIL NOW I MEAN I HAVE NO  PROBLEM WITH I I'VE BEEN ABLE  TO STAY WITH SENATE. SO I MEAN  DON'T SEE ANY NEED FOR CHANGE.  DON'T. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH  THE ARE.  >> I ALSO AGREE THAT IF I WENT  OVER THE $9200 ABSOLUTELY I  WOULD NEED TO COME BACK OR ANY  COMMISSIONER WOULD NEED TO  COME BACK. IF THEY'RE GOING  OVER THE TOTAL OF THE 3200 AND  THE TOTAL OF THE 6,000. THAT  I'M NOT GOING OVER THE TOTALS.  I'M JUST REQUESTING TO CHANGE  THE POLICY TO BE ABLE TO  COMBINE THEM LIKE THEY DO ANY  OTHER BUDGETS WITHIN THE CITY.  >> TO ME MY MY ONLY SO IT IF  ONE OF CATEGORIES ARE BUCKETS  INADEQUATE THE MAYBE WE SHOULD  TALK ABOUT RAISING THEM. WE'RE  LOWERING OTHERS. YOU RATHER  THAN BEING ABLE TO COMBINE.  EVERYBODY I DON'T KNOW THAT  ANYBODY ELSE OVER. ANY OF  THEIR INDIVIDUAL ALLOCATIONS  SO. MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST  CHANGE THE ALLOCATIONS.  >> ALL I CAN TELL YOU THE COST  OF HOTELS IS ASTRONOMICAL. YOU  KNOW IF IF THAT'S THE WILL OF  THE BOARD WHEN THE POLICY  COMES BACK WE CAN ALWAYS DO  THAT TOO OR WE CAN I DON'T  KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT NOW YOU  KNOW WHERE IN BUDGET MIGHT  HAVE TO SAY THAT FOR FIRST  READING I DON'T KNOW. WHAT'S  BEFORE US TODAY IS TO. BRING  BACK THE POLICY FOR FURTHER  DISCUSSION ABOUT POTENTIAL  CHANGES AND ALSO TO ALLOW ME  TO NOT EXCEED MY TOTAL OF 3200  PLUS 6,000. AND COMBINE THEM  TOGETHER. MAKE MOTIONS AND  THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION  I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS  FURTHER DISCUSSION JUST WANT I  JUST HAD A THOUGHT IS WERE  SEPARATED FOR READS I DON'T.  >> THAT'S A FINANCE QUESTION  THEY THEY SEE. WHEN WE HAVE  THE FIRST DISCUSSION WAY BACK  COMMISSIONER WENT OVER THE  ACTUAL TOTAL.  >> OF THE 2. THEY SAID THAT  THEY HAD TO SEPARATE THE  TRAINING AND PER DIEM. THAT  THEY COULDN'T TO BE COMBINED  AT THAT WHEN I ASKED FINANCE  FOR CLARITY ON WHY THEY CAN'T  BE COMBINED NOW THEY SAID THAT  THAT'S HOW THEY DO IT IN OTHER  DEPARTMENTS. BUT BECAUSE OUR  POLICY SAYS WE HAVE TO COME  BACK FOR COMMISSION APPROVAL  OVERAGES EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT  OVER THE 9200 I'M STILL WELL  WITHIN THAT 9200 THRESHOLD.  THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HOLDING  RIGHT KIM WILLIAMS SAID.  >> SO THERE ARE SEPARATED FOR  ACCOUNTING PURPOSES TO  PROPERLY REPORT WHERE WE SPENT  THE MONEY THAT'S WHY THEY'RE  FINANCE DOES ALLOW RUNNING  OVER IN ONE MADE UP OF THE  OTHER THERE YOU KNOW IT'S ALL  WITHIN ONE CALL CENTER. THE  REAL RESTRICTION IS WITHIN A  FUN, WE DON'T ALLOW THE TOTAL  TO GO OVER YES, WE WOULD ALLOW  WANT TO GO OVER ONE TO BE  UNDER AND THEY MAKE UP FOR  EACH OTHER THAT THE REASON  COMMENT IS THAT THE COMMISSION  HAS A POLICY. THAT'S MORE  RESTRICTIVE THAN OUR BUDGETING  POLICIES. SO THAT'S WHY THIS  IS HERE FOR DISCUSSION, IT'S  NOT ANYTHING THAT WE REQUIRED  AND IN BUDGET OR COUNTY. AND I  ASKED.  >> WHY COMMISSION HAVE A MORE  STRICTER. FINANCE DID FROM AN  ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT, WHAT  WAS THINKING CAPPING THOSE  NUMBERS A CERTAIN AMOUNT  SOMEWHAT OPPOSE LIKE FRANCIS,  I DON'T SPEND A LOT MIKE I'VE  NO PROBLEM IF IF WE CAN WORK  OUT A MECHANISM WHERE  COMMISSIONER BALL TO ALI.  TRANSFER SOME OF THEIR FUNDS  LIKE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  NEED GRANDER AND ALMOND OR A  COUPLE GRAND NO PROBLEM  VOLUNTARILY DOING THAT, BUT  THERE MUST SOME LOGIC US TO  THAT THE CAPS ON THESE  CATEGORIES TO TRY TO KEEP  COMMISSION COSTS LOW. SO THAT.  MEAN SO THAT COMMISSIONS NOT  TO SAY THAT WE HAVE FOR PASSED  BUT THAT NOBODY ABUSE THE  PRIVILEGE OF JUST SPENDS  TAXPAYERS MONEY WITH NO GOOD  REASON SO BUT BUT YET SOME OF  US TO MORE THAN OTHERS SOME OF  US. YOU KNOW. PARTICIPATING  MORSI RELATED THIS SUSPECT  THAT COSTS MONEY SO I'VE NO  PROBLEM IF WE SO SOME  CONCERNED ABOUT YOU KNOW THERE  MUST HAVE BEEN SOME LOGIC AND  I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS  THAT'S WHY I'M HAVING A HARD  TIME WITH THIS.  >> I CAN TELL YOU THAT WAS IT  PRETTY DISCUSSION ON IT AND  THAT WAS THE WILL OF THE  COMMISSION AT THE TIME THAT'S  ABOUT ALL I CAN TELL  >> AND COMMISSIONER STOKES IT  WAS. THE COMMISSION ARE CANNOT  OVER THE 9200. THAT'S WHAT WAS  THE INTENT IF A COMMISSIONER  WENT OVER THAT 9200.  THRESHHOLD THAT HAD TO COME  BACK BECAUSE.  >> MISSION WAS OVER BUDGET SO  THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO ASK  HEY. ANOTHER COMMISSIONER 1.2  EUR YEARS CAN I USE IT AND YOU  KNOW THAT THE PURPOSE OF IT.  >> BUT SOMEHOW I I. I BELIEVE  THE INTENT WAS AS LONG AS  YOU'RE NOT GOING OVER THAT  9200 SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS  WITH THE STAFF LEVEL THEN IT'S  OK. TO COMMINGLE YOUR TRAVEL  AND YOUR PER DIEM WITH THAT  INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS  ACCOUNT. BUT IF YOU'RE THAT  INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER WENT  OVER THE TOTAL THRESHHOLD  RIGHT THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO  COME BACK THAT COMMISSION.  THAT'S WHY I'M BACK I I WILL  BE GOING OVER AND IF IT'S THE  WILL OF THE BODY THAT I GO  OVER THEN I JUST WANT  SUBMITTED ALL. BUT AT THE SAME  TIME. THIS MAY COME UP IN THE  FUTURE AND I'M TRYING TO HEDGE  THAT OFFER ANY FUTURE  COMMISSIONER THAT POSSIBLY MAY  GO ROOM CATEGORY AND BE UNDER  IN THE OTHER CATEGORY. AND  THEY HAVEN'T EXCEEDED THAT  THRESHOLD. I'M NOT EXCEEDING  MY LIKE IT, YEAH.  >> JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT  THESE ARE 2 SEPARATE ITEM SO  WE CAN DO EACH ONE SEPARATELY  LIKE YOU YOU WANT ONE OF THEM  IS JUST SO YOU CAN COMBINE IT  SO YOU'RE. AND WHOLE IF I GOT  WAS POLICY CHANGE I'M JUST  NOT. IN FAVOR CHANGING THAT IF  THAT'S STILL SEPARATE I AGAIN  IT. BUT I EXPECTATIONS MAY BE  THAT YOU SHOULD CHOOSE WISELY  WHERE YOU WANT TO TOWN THIS IS  REALLY WORTH THIS TRAINING AND  TRAVEL TO HAVE TO GO THERE.  >> COMMISSIONER SAID IS IT'S A  GOOD POINT LOT OF THINGS ARE  YOU DO ALL VIRTUAL. DO YOU  REALLY HAVE TO BE THERE SOME  OF THEM AND IT JUST HELPS YOU  CONTROL OWN LITTLE BECAUSE I  DON'T THINK OF.  >> AND POINT AND THEY BY AND  NOT GOING SEE THIS YEAR SO  THAT'S OFF THE TABLE. SO AT  THAT'S 2 SEPARATE THINGS.  >> I'M YOU KNOW I'M GOOD WITH  THAT. NUMBER 2. AND LEAVING  NUMBER ONE. THE WAIT IS HOW I  FEEL SO LOOKING FOR MOTIONS  FROM SOMEBODY. YES THAT'S  QUESTION THERE.  >> EVAN TAMPA SAINT TIGHT IN  THE VIEWING OF FLORIDA  STATUTE, ONE 12.0 6, 1, 5, BB  ALL TRAVELER SHELBY ALLOW THE  FOLLOWING AMOUNTS FOR  SUBSTANCE WHILE ON CLASSY  TRAVEL ON OFFICIAL BUSINESS.  FESTIVAL $6 LUNCH, IT WAS $11  AND DINNER EQUALS $19 IT SEEMS  THAT OUR CODE REFLECTS  ALLOWABLE STATUTE IF I'M  CORRECT IN MY INTERPRETATION  JUST TO KNOW I GUESS THAT  LIMITS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS  TO MEALS FAST FOOD  ESTABLISHMENT OF ABSOLUTELY  RIDICULOUS AND THAT'S  >> JUST I BELIEVE OUR POLICY  ALLOWS USE WHAT THE TRAVEL DO  YOU WORRY IS BASED ON THE CITY  THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US  OUT HERE.  >> RIGHTS BASED ON THE FEDERAL  AND TAX CODE.  >> AND THEY ARE UPDATED SO  DIDN'T EXACTLY RIGHT RIGHT NOW  MEN'S RIGHTS THEY DO GET  UPDATED. YEAH.  >> AND THEY'RE PRETTY STANDARD  THAT IT'S NOT GOING PAY OR  FROM BUT IT'S AN ALLOWANCE I  DON'T THINK BY A CUP OF COFFEE  THESE DAYS FOR HAHA IT'S JUST  TO ME IT'S A THRILL TO GET  ANYTHING CAUSE OF THE TEACHER.  THE FIRST MOTION IF YOU'RE  READY. MAYOR IS TO REQUEST  BRINGING BACK. THE COMMISSION  TRAVEL EXPENSE POLICY PERMIT A  COMMISSIONER TO COMBINE THEIR  INDIVIDUAL TRAINING AND TRAVEL  ACCOUNTS, NOT TO EXCEED. AND  IF THIS TIME, IT'S $9200 THE  BUDGETED THRESHOLD WITHOUT  COMMISSION APPROVED. 10 SO THE  MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL. THAT'S BASICALLY  WHAT I READ AND YES TO AMEND  THE CITY COMMISSION POLICY  NUMBER 2021 DASH 0 ONE. CITY  COMMISSION TRAVEL EXPENSE  POLICY TO PERMIT A  COMMISSIONER TO COMBINE THEIR  INDIVIDUAL TRAINING AND TRAVEL  ACCOUNTS NOT TO EXCEED.  >> THE $9,200 BUDGET TEST THAT  COMMISSION APPROVAL, SO THAT'S  THE MOTION MADE BY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> IT'S SECOND THAT AND THAT'S  SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES.  IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. WE'LL  DO VOICE. VICE MAYOR. I OR  MINUTES GO. SUPPORTED. NOW FOR  THAT ONE. I MEAN, YES.  COMMISSIONER AVERAGE.  >> I KNOW.  >> SO WE HAVE A TIE.  >> AND FEELS OUT OKAY.  >> MORNING, SOMETHING NEW AND  K. SO NOW WE MOVE TO THE  SECOND ONE.  >> SO THE SECOND MOTION IS TO  APPROVE MY REQUEST TO COMBINE  MY INDIVIDUAL TRAINING AND  TRAVEL ACCOUNTS FOR FISCAL  YEAR 2324 NOT TO EXCEED THE  $9200 TOTAL THRESHOLD.  FOLLOWING THE STANDARD  TRAINING AND TRAVEL FUNDING  REIMBURSEMENT PROCEDURES.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE A  MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL TO COMBINE HER  INDIVIDUAL TRAINING AND TRAVEL  ACCOUNTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR  2023 2024 NOT TO EXCEED $9,200  THAT'S FOLLOWING THE STANDARD  TRAINING AND TRAVEL FUNDING  REIMBURSEMENT PROCEDURES TO I  HAVE A SECOND. SECOND THANK  YOU VICE MAYOR WE HAVE A  SECOND BY VICE MAYOR. AND THE  AND THE DISCUSSION. VOICE.  >> VOTE VICE MAYOR SURE YES.  >> I MEAN YES WITH THAT.  >> WELL YES. COMMISSIONER  AVERAGE.  >> I I THINK YOU JUST BROKE  >> WE THAT PASSES 3 3 TO ONE.  VICE THANKS STATION THAT'S  WHAT JOBS HOW ANSWER EARLIER  QUESTION THAT CITY WANT FEES  THAT THE CONTRACT FOR THAT  STUDY WAS SIGNED ON APRIL  25TH. INITIAL ESTIMATE WAS  THAT IT WOULD BE ABOUT 6  MONTHS BEFORE IT WAS DONE. WE  ARE REACHING OUT NOW TO GET  HIM WAS AN UPDATED ASSESSMENT  AND THAT WAS US THE LATEST ONE  WE HAVE.  >> IT WAS APPROVED IN APRIL  APRIL 25TH THE CONTRACT WAS  SIGNED.  >> ALL ARE MOVING TO GENERAL  PUBLIC COMMENT.  ♪ ♪ IT'S AND I HAVE JUST IN THE  TOURNAMENT ON MARCH THAT ENDED  SO THAT'S SO WE ARE ADJOURNED  AT ONE 22.