ANSWERS WITH ELENA AND I'M GOING TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. CAN A BUSINESS BE BUILT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MY HOME. IT'S A PENCE ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS HOW MUCH LAND DOES THAT PROPERTY OWNER, HALF IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO PUT NEW DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY THEY HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH LAND FOR PARKING BUFFERS STORM WATER TREE CONSERVATION AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO BUILDING A NEW FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO MEAN THAT SOMEONE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND PUT A NEW BUSINESS ON A QUARTER ACRE LOT RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOME THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE LAND THAN THAT BUSINESSES ALSO TYPICALLY LIKE TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON A MAIN ROAD SO ANY BUSINESS THAT COMES IN IT'S GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR THAT ACCESS. THAT MAY MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO BUY NUMEROUS LOTS IN ORDER TO HAVE ENOUGH LAND TO DEVELOP AND TO GET THE ACCESS ON THE MAIN ROADS THAT THEY WANT THE ULDC REWRITE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DRAFTING HAS PROTECTIONS FOR CURRENT RESIDENTS. SO THAT IF A BUSINESS DOES LOCATE NEAR YOUR HOME. WE WILL HAVE ADEQUATE BUFFERS AND PROTECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT YOU CAN STILL ENJOY YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE. >> DECIDED TO BECOME A FIREFIGHTER USED TO WORK HOSPITALITY AND GROUP SALES AND I ALWAYS HAD FRIENDS THAT WORK. FIREFIGHTERS AND I DECIDED ONE DAY THAT I WANTED MY JOB DONE FOR PEOPLE SO. >> I WENT AHEAD UT AND PARAMEDIC PROGRAM. >> WITH THE FIRE AND I SAW A NORTH ♪ >> WE'RE HIRING. >> AND REALLY LIKED WHAT THEY HAD ON THEIR BETWEEN THEIR ISO RATING BELIEFS AND VALUES AND EVERYTHING 5, 5, THEY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY EVERY DAY IS DIFFERENT BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE START OFF THE SAME. ♪ WHAT WAS GET OUR YEAR ONTO THE. BRAD US MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S OPERATIONAL AND OUR AIR BACK. ALSO CHECKED INVENTORY. MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OUR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT. EVERYTHING'S THAT WAY YOU CAN RESPOND TO ANY EMERGENCY SO WE'RE ALWAYS STOCKED AND READY TO I THINK THE BEST PART IS THAT EVERYONE'S PASSION ABOUT THEIR JOB. SO THEY COME TO WORK AND THEY'RE READY TO TRAIN AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER AND TEACH EACH OTHER SO EVERYONE'S SHARPENED ON THEIR A GAME SO IT MAKES IT OFTEN AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO COME TO WORK. >> ALWAYS GET VERY EXCITED WHEN ANYBODY ASKS ME ABOUT MY JOB IN WHERE I WORK AND WHAT I DO IT'S NOT A SECRET THAT I LOVE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF NORTH PORT I WORKED FOR CHARLOTTE COUNTY AND I FELT THAT I NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND I WANTED SOMETHING MORE AND I WANT OFFER MY SKILLS IT TO MY FRIEND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT MY NEXT STEPS AND SHE SAID DID YOU THINK ABOUT APPLYING TO JOBS. THE CITY OF NORTH PORT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT VIBE HERE AND SHE SAID I LOVE IT AND I SAID I COULD THINK ABOUT THAT SO I APPLIED AND I STARTED MY FIRST POSITION IN A PLANNING AND ZONING IN OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT I'M PARTNERED WITH THE DELI DEPARTMENT. >> BECAUSE MY MIND THE FEES ARE ASSESSED OFF OF THE BUILDING PERMITS AND IT'S STRICTLY FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THE FIRST THING I DO IS TO CHECK THE SPREADSHEET TO LOOK AT THE PERMITS AND DETERMINED WHICH ONES NEED ME TO ESTIMATE THEIR IMPACT FEES AND THAT'S WHY START WITH THAT THEN I GO TO NUMBERS THAT I HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER AND I PUT TOGETHER INVOICES FOR DEVELOPERS OFTEN TIMES GET PHONE CALLS TO GET VOTES BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT COMES THROUGH AND SO DEVELOPERS WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY CAN. >> BUDGET FOR SOMETIMES I PUT PROPOSED ESTIMATE TO HELP THEM LIKE THAT. ♪ ♪ THE BULK OF IT IS IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE FEES ARE IN THE SYSTEM AS FAST AS POSSIBLE I LOVE THE ESPRIT DE CORPS THAT EXPERIENCE. JUST HOW EVERYBODY TEAMWORK TOGETHER ENJOY KNOWING THAT I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE CITY AND THAT MY POSITION CAN HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR OUR CITY. ♪ >> HEY GOOD MORNING GOOD TO HEAR MYSELF THAT'S GOOD NEWS TODAY IS ♪ >> TUESDAY, 5TH 2024. IT IS 09:00AM. WE'RE A CITY CHAMBERS AND I CALL THE CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP TO ORDER. THIS IS A HYBRID MEETING. THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED AND WILL BE CONDUCTED AS A HYBRID MEETING REQUIRING THE USE OF COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY. ♪ PHYSICAL FORM OF VOTING MEMBERS IS PRESENT AND CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, A HYBRID MEETING ALLOWS VOTING MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE WITHOUT BEING PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE ROOM. BUT THIS POINT IS COULD ALL WE HAVE VICE MAYOR STOKES MYSELF MAYOR WHITE COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL COMMISSIONER LANGDON ♪ AND WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER EMRICH. MARK MEANT. >> GOOD MORNING AMERICA ME. >> YES, THANK YOU. >> HAS AUTHORIZED BY CITY COMMISSION POLICY NUMBER 2021 DASH CAM I AM ATTENDING THE HYBRID MEETING COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGIES EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL CONDITION, INCLUDING MANY DISABILITIES PREVENTING ME FROM ATTENDING THIS MEETING IN PERSON AT THIS TIME, THANK YOU. >> I THINK YOU COMING THROUGH LOUD AND CLEAR MUCH BETTER THAN YEAH. I THINK SO ANYWAY, SO LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID MEETING SO ALL RIGHT SO MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO APPROVE THE USE OF CMT FOR THIS HYBRID MEETING SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STOKES. WE WILL HAVE A VOICE VOTE MAY A VICE VICE MAYOR S MAYOR AND THE S LANGDON SAY YES IK TELL NO. MUCH IS THAT OKAY THAT TO ONE. ALSO PRESENT WE HAVE OR CITY MANAGER FLETCHER CITY ATTORNEYS BRIAN THANK YOU. IT CITY CLERK FAST GOOD TO SEE YOU TODAY. OVER CHIEF GARRISON. I'M ASSUMING OKAY. AND LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE SINCE UP PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU CHIEF WORKING. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. >> YES ALL RIGHT ROBIN CAMPUS GOOD MORNING. MY COMMENTS CONCERNS WILL SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE TREAT I UNDERSTAND ORIGINAL FUNDING NEED FOR THE RESOURCE DIVISION, HOWEVER, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO FUND DIVISION WITH THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY THE 2025 BUDGET FOR PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES ARE 10 POSITIONS 8.1 MILLION THREE HUNDRED SEVENTEEN $1850 AND BROKEN DOWN AS FOLLOWS RESOURCES PLUS ONE NEW RECOMMENDED WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CATEGORIZED DONE THIS INSPECTOR. THE NEW POSITION ALLOCATION IS A $115,020. ONE EXISTING CONSERVATION OFFICER. PLUS RECOMMENDED THE NEW POSITION ALLOCATION IS $191,240. MY COMMENTS ON THESE POSITIONS CONSERVATION POLICE OFFICERS. WELL THERE IS A DEFINITE NEED FOR TARGETED FOCUS ON ISSUES SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT, THESE POSITIONS NOR ANY OTHER USE A POLICE OFFICER SHOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE TREE FUND BUT THEN EVERY POLICE FORCE THERE ARE NUMEROUS SPECIALTY FIELDS, SPECIFIC AND TARGETED THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT HAD INJURIES ARE FUNDED DIFFERENTLY. THE SAME APPLIES HERE TOO IS OWNING INSPECTOR OUR CURRENT INSPECTORS ALSO DEAL WITH ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND A LOT OF THAT EVER LEFT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE TYPE CATEGORY. HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU SEPARATE THEM OUT AND SPECIFICALLY CLASSIFY AND USING DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE. RESOURCE DIVISION ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES IN ADDITION TO THAT REFUND IS NEEDED TO STAY IN THE DIVISION. MY OTHER CONCERN IS THE UTILIZATION OF THE TREE FUND WHICH IS ONLY BUDGET FOR $615,000 AND BROKEN DOWN TO WANT CONTINUE THE CONTINUATION OF THE EXISTING CITYWIDE FREE OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS AND CITY PARKS, 1, $415,000 AND TO THE NEW CANINE 3. WHILE PROJECTS BUDGETED FOR $200,000 FOR SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE AND IMPLEMENTING OUR TREE FUND WITH THESE LIMITED ALLOCATIONS AND 2 ARE THERE NOT A VARIETY OF OTHER PROJECTS NEEDS AND ISSUES THAT SHOULD COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR UTILIZATION THANK >> THAT'S ON ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> MOVING ON TO ITEM TO GENERAL BUSINESS A 24 DASH 0, 8, ONE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR. 2025 CITY MANAGERS RECOMMENDED BUDGET SO CITY MANAGER TAKE IT AWAY. >> IT'S NOT A MAYOR JUST AS WE DID I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TO TAKE YESTERDAY. TO THE AIRPORT TONIGHT AS WE DISCUSSED REGARDING THE BUDGET. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THERE ARE 2 THINGS THAT JUST DISCUSSED QUICKLY BEFORE WE GET TO THE FIRE RESCUE ONE WAS VICE MAYOR DO LAST YEAR THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES IT GET IF MISSION OUT PUBLICLY YOU KNOW I READ MADAM CLERK THAT SHE DOES NEEDS THAT THEY WERE CONVERSATION YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT IS THAT THERE'S NO BUT I DID FOLLOW UP ON THAT THE OTHER ONE WITH REGARDING PROJECTS FOR THE 2.2 MILLION DOLLARS. THOSE I THROUGH KIND OF THAT SCENE WITH WHAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE WITH THAT MONEY WE SHOULD HAVE FOR THAT AT THAT FOR YOU. FORT LEE. BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU TELL YOU. BUT HOW WE GOT TO THE POINT OF. INFORMATION INSIDE BUDGET THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE 2.2 MILLION DOLLARS WHEN WE BALANCED THE BUDGET 4 AND YOU ABOUT THE BUDGET PRIOR TO VALUES TO HIGHER THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE HAD A LOT OF 4. WE SEVERAL ITEMS LOOKS LIKE IT WAS 7 ITEMS THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF A BUDGET THAT WE PUT THAT INTO OUR WE PUT THEM BACK IN BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT'S AND HOW THEY PRIORITIZE THEIR NEEDS. SO WHEN WE GOT THE EXTRA REVENUE WE WENT BACK TO AND SAID OK LET'S GO TO THE TOP OF LIST AS GET BACK IN. THAT'S HOW WE GET IT SO IT TOTALED 1.7 MILLION DOLLARS. SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST 1.7 THAT WOULD COME OUT IF WE CHANGE DIRECTION AND JUST SO YOU KNOW THOSE ITEMS WERE THE ACTIVITY 6 ACTIVITY CENTER 6 MASTER IT WAS 200 GRAND FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE HAD FAMILY FACILITY UPDATES. A $132,000. IT MIGHT ONLY PLACE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY FOR $300,000. FIRE IT WAS I FIRE BUT $239,000. THE LAST WE WERE POLICE A POLICE COMMANDER, 24. ACTIVE FOR ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE TO HER TONIGHT POLICE ALSO WE START FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS TO ALL 3. THAT'S HOW WE TO THOSE FUNDS THAT WE'VE GOT IS THAT ACCESS TO PUT BACK INTO THE BUDGET SO FARMERS COULD BE CLOSER TO HOLE, BUT AS YOU HEARD YESTERDAY. JUST ABOUT EVERY DEPARTMENT WITH ANY SORT OF MAJOR EXPENSE HAS SOMETHING HAS BEEN LEFT OUTSTANDING IT WE DO, BUT IT HAS TO DO THE SAME THING MAKE SURE YOU DO THIS YEAR WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE THAT GIVEN THIS MUCH AS THEY WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES. YOU KNOW WE MAKE CHOICES AS OUR BUDGET ALL. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> CITY MANAGER SPOKE SO QUICKLY COULD YOU I I WAS ABLE TO WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN AFTER THE MIGHT WHAT WHAT WAS THE OTHER ITEMS AFTER THE MY TELEPHONE THAT I HIM. >> FIRE. 2 OR 3 NOT $1000 K. POLICE COMMANDER. MORE THAN DETECTIVE FOR ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE. YOU YOU GO INTO THE $90,000. POLICE SERGEANT FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER. WE'RE JUST MONTHS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S ALL REMEMBER ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE GOOD BUT THAT MOVING ON TO ITEM B WHICH IS 24 DASH 0, 8, 6, 7, >> FIRE DEPARTMENT ALRIGHT CITY MANAGER TAKE IT AWAY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION WE ALSO THAT'S THE WORD FROM OUR FIRE CHIEF THAT HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE AS WELL IS SOMETHING STANTEC IS ALSO PARTICIPATE DAY AND HAPPENED AS WELL. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR ORGANIZATIONAL PROPER FIRE DEPARTMENT ONE OF THE 58 POSITIONS WITH POSITIONS. AS I STATED STICK TO THOSE ARE WORDS THAT MEAN BACK BUDGET BASED ON FUNDING THAT WE HAD GET THERE. THERE ARE ABOUT 40 MOST OF THE ACTION COMMITTEE. PROVIDED TO STAFF SURE THE SERVICES AS WELL AS SEARCH THAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS, PROGRAMS AND STRATEGIES. THAT MEASURES MOST NOTABLY ARE TIED BACK TO THEIR RESPONSE TIME ONE THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME OF 8 MINUTES OR LESS. I GREW THERE JUST 82 8 LESS THIS YEAR LAST 97 THEIR TARGET FOR A E IT'S NEXT YEAR AS WELL. MAINTAINING AVERAGE 80 SECONDS OR LESS. HE SAID MASON IS A MESS. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE CURRENTLY AT THE 40 SECONDS OR LESS 38.9 5 WITH THE ACTUAL LAST YEAR MAKE SURE AS WELL. SUSPECTS 100% THIS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY. 1.14%. EXPECTED TO GET 100 IN 25 DAYS TO FINISH A FIRE SAFETY INSPECTIONS AND UPS THEY COMPLY. 93% WITH ACTUAL LAST YEAR 5 THIS YEAR. AND 95 IS OUR GOAL FOR NEXT YEAR. AS WE WILL PASS SOME OF THE PROPOSED MEASURES YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THEIR BUDGET THIS YEAR, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT GREAT SUNNY MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR TRANSFERS. 4 MILLION DOLLARS. 0.2 MILLION DOLLARS OPERATING EXPENSES OF 6.6 MILLION DOLLARS IN PERSONNEL OF 25 MILLION DOLLARS. THESE ARE SOME OF PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECRUITED WENT BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE FRONT OF YOU. ONE OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS SKUS JUST EXPECT. $1000. YOU FIRED OR PROGRAM $21,000. FACING RADIO EQUIPMENT FOR $11,000. POST AND SO THEM DO. WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED BATTERY OPERATED. EARNINGS. SMOKE DETECTOR REPLACEMENT SERVICES. TECHNICAL RESCUE EQUIPMENT. AS WELL AS FIRE PREVENTION ANNUAL INSPECTION SOFTWARE. IT IS THAT GUN NOW PLANS FOR $30,000. WE HAVE TO. THE FIRE FACT, ON $30,000. THIS IS FAR OVER. PROPOSALS REST OF UNIT. BASEMENT. OR 5 OF $30,000 AS WELL. WELL THAT JUST OVER. PERSONAL PROTECTION EQUIPMENT PLACE IT. WELL AS REMOTE BUT PROPOSAL THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED. INSIDE OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS FIRED BECAUSE HE DIDN'T MAKE SO. IT'S LIFE SUPPORT EQUIPMENT. PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. RADIO SYSTEM THAT COULD HOSPITAL. COURSE HERE FOR TAX REBATE PEOPLE. YOU QUIT. WELL OPERATE A POSITIVE PRESSURE OKAY WE'RE TRAINING IRON ORE PROGRAM. I WANT TO WILL SAY IF YOU WANT >> MAYOR COMMISSION SHOULD LOOK DURING THIS SO IT'S LIKE 7 START INCREDIBLE HONOR. RESCUE. MOST LIKE ON THIS REALLY BUDGET ALL THE REST IS APPRECIATES AND MANAGERS AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO FOR HELP US GET TODAY. THE REASON CITY MANAGER, A LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THE SLIDES AS WE DID SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS DID SO IN THE DISTRICT SIDE BECAUSE REFUNDED 2 DIFFERENT WAYS. WE REQUESTED TO KEEP BUDGET PROPOSALS ON THE DISTRICT SIDE. SO THAT ALL THE FUNDING CAME BACK IN ON THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE LOCALS. IT WOULD BE THERE. OR WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NEXT YEAR ACTUALLY FIND SAVINGS FROM THOSE WE WANT TO LEAVE IT THERE. WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE BUILDINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS UPCOMING THAT SORT ITS OWN. LISTINGS ARE REQUESTED TO LEAVE THAT IN THERE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE RATES WILL COMMENT ABOUT THAT'S YOU SEE THOSE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAT'S WHAT'S AND MENTOR WAS A. THROUGH ITS WHITE SEPARATELY SO THE SECOND GROUP BEING SET WAS GENERAL FUND AND THOSE WERE THE ONES WERE NOT. WE'RE NOT IT. WE DO HAVE A CONSULTANT COMING MORNING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FROM STATES LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN THAT TALKS TO YOU ABOUT A 10 YEAR PLAN. HE STUCK TRAFFIC FOR ACTION WITHOUT PROTECT THE CITY IS ON THE WAY IS RUN A LITTLE BIT TYPICALLY HEAR WE'VE DONE. AND IF NOT IS PRESENT, BUT WE THOUGHT WE'D GO THROUGH YOUR QUESTIONS THROUGH THE BUDGET PORTION AND IF YOU GET YOUR THEM. ALL RIGHT YOU'RE HERE. >> THE ONUS ON ALL ALL RIGHT. MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HOURS COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> GOOD MORNING DAY TOO. LET'S LAST YEAR IN THE BUDGET. THERE WAS A CASCADE TRAILER. IT WAS NOT FUNDED IN THE BUDGET AND I KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAD IT WAS SAID THAT MIND THE IT WILL BE FUNDED WHEN THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE, I'M JUST CURIOUS. DID WE PURCHASE THAT CASCADE TRAILER OR IS IT STILL WAITING. FOUND FUNDING. THAT HAS I'M SORRY I CAN HEAR YOU. >> IT'S DO OR HAS NOT ARRIVED YET, BUT WE HAVE PUSHES THROUGH IN THE NEXT MONTH. THE TWO-YEAR THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> ONE THING I NOTICED THAT KIND TOOK ME BY SURPRISE WAS A FLIGHT. THERE'S NO MONEY FOR REVENUE FROM LEASING A FLIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME, BUT I ASSUME IT HAS TO DO WITH STATION 81 IN THE E E O C BEING BELT. WHERE IS BAY FLIGHT GOING TO RELOCATE DURING THAT REBUILDING PROCESS. >> ORGAN THROUGH THAT WITH THE RIGHT NOW I THINK THE PLAN THAT THEY'RE GOING WITH THEY'RE GOING PUT THE TEMPORARY FACILITY. BEHIND FIRE STATION 8 FOR ACTUALLY HE'LL SPOT THERE. WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING CAN'T REALLY RELOCATING WILL KEEP THEM AT SPOT BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON BE I'M GOING TO LAND PLANE DEBRIS. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S WE DON'T HAVE ANY WRITTEN AGREEMENT WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE REVENUES. WE'RE NOT PASS OBVIOUSLY THATS UP THEIR FACILITY I GUESS DURING THAT TIME. IF THERE'S PORT THERE WILL BE A PUSH IN HERE THAT WE'RE GOING REVENUE JUST SOMEBODY RUPTURE WILL BE. >> 84 CITIZENS PARKWAY THIS ONE. >> AND IS THERE. >> HOUSING FACILITIES FOR THE BAY LIGHT THROUGH THERE LIKE THERE IS AN 81. >> NO SO THEY THEY TALK ABOUT 2, 2 THINGS TO TALK ABOUT TEMPORARY ALL TEMPORARY WITH THE MOBILE HOME UP THERE. THE COMET THAT THEY ALSO TALKED THE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NEXT THEY WERE LOOKING INTO THAT. AND ACTUALLY THAT'S THEIR PREFERENCE PROBABLY WILL BE AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE CHARGE TO LEASE ANYTHING. FOR BAY FLIGHT SNOW. OKAY. >> APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION ABOUT 6 THAT ARE NOT FUNDED ON THE EMS SIDE, HOWEVER, THERE IS ONE. >> THAT. CONCERNS ME. SAFETY IS ALWAYS PARAMOUNT. AND IN THE RADIO REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT FOR BUDGET PROPOSAL 2821 ON PAGE, ONE MY NOTES SHOW TO FUND THIS NOW. IF YOU CAN'T HEAR THAT HOMES. HOW YOU THE REPORT RESPOND TO A COP. I JUST REALLY SURPRISED THAT THIS WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE CAUGHT FOR THIS BUDGET. I REALLY THINK THIS IS SOMETHING PERSONALLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN. CURIOUS AS TO WHY STATION HIGH IS PROBLEMATIC WHEN THAT IS MORE OF A RELATIVELY STATION. IT'S OUT OF WARRANTY. I WISH I COULD TELL ACCEPT >> RED SHOE WAS KIND IT YOU KNOW READ YOUR STUFF MOTOROLA AND THEY WENT THROUGH THE WOODS SYSTEM ISRAEL OR RECOMMENDATIONS SO. >> RIGHT >> NOW WE HAVE I MEAN. WE DO HAVE MADE TO BREAK DOWN SOME STATIONS WHERE THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT WAS JUST KEEPS US A GREAT GREAT YOU ARE THEY THINK ONLY JUST HEALTHY LONG-TERM. SHORT TERM SOLUTION BEEN OKAY WE'VE BEEN BAND-AID NUMBER WE GETTING IT DONE SO IT'S. WHICH NEED TO BE AND SOME POINT >> SO I REMEMBER. 2 YEARS AGO. THERE WAS A NEW SYSTEM ADDED THAT THE TERM START REALLY LOW AND ACCELERATE AND VOLUME. >> IS THAT POSSIBLY A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR OR IS THIS JUST EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED REGARDLESS OF THE TERM ACCELERATION THE SENATE STILL BE THIS IS SEPARATE FROM THAT PIECE HAS STOPPED, BUT PEACE IS NOT CONTRIBUTE TO IT. WE REALLY NEED TO FIND FUNDING FOR THIS BECAUSE IT'S A LIFE SAFETY MISSION AND IN MY OPINION THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU MESS WITH SPECIALLY. FIRE AND POLICE ARE. >> REASON THAT GOVERNMENT THIS IS GROWTH ALL OVER DIFFICULT FOR TO YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING BUSIER THE CUTS WILL SEE AND THERE'S LET'S QUICKLY ESPECIALLY 5. SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE FACED WITH THIS IS THE SUM OF MONEY TRADITION THAT'S TELL AND IS ESPECIALLY OVERTIMES EVERY ONE OF THOSE ON FIRE AS PROMISED A LESS WITH A PARAMEDIC ON THEM. THEY CAN DO THE SAME AND LET'S TO SO THEY BUILT A TRANSPORT UNIT. OUR GOAL WAS AS OUR LAST REMAINING ENGINE CITY IS NOT WE WANT FROM THAT THAT EQUIPMENT. SHE THERE. >> BUT IN SENATE YOU WE WE WE. >> SO THERE LONG HARD BEFORE BUT SUPPORTING THE BUDGET. THEY CALL THE STRESSORS. >> I'LL BE GETTING A CONSENSUS HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT BASED ON. AFTER MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WEIGH IN THINGS. IF YOU WANT TO GO ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE DOUBLE CHECK MINUTES, MAYOR AL QAEDA. COMMISSIONER LANGDON THANK YOU MAYOR, I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION IT'S ON PROPOSAL 2833. >> PAGE ONE 96 IN THE BINDER. IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME TO HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT OUR PERSONNEL ARE NOT TRAINED TO USE. AND FOR A $6,090 I WOULD THINK WE COULD FIND THE MONEY. SORT OF OUR PERSON OUT ON THE HAND TEVYE YEAH FOR HIM. SO IS THAT ONE THAT YOU. YOU REALLY ANTICIPATE YOU WILL FIND THE MONEY FOR AS THE YEAR GOES ON OUR IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD TAKE ACTION ON. >> BUT HAVE TO BE IN PREVIOUS YEARS OVER WHOLE CONFIDENCE AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE MONEY TELL YOU. WE FEEL LIKE THIS. I'VE BEEN ONE OF OUR HERE'S FUTURE TIGHT. BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT FIXED AND WE DIFFERENT THINGS MUCH AND THAT'S JUST THERE TO DO SO. REALLY STRUGGLING IN FOR. COURSE WE WILL ALWAYS WORK HARD TRY NOT SPEND YOU DON'T NEED TO FIND SAVINGS IN AREAS AND UNDER TIGHT BUDGET. SO THAT'S OUR INTENT. LOOK TO SOMETIMES SAY THESE ARE THINGS RIGHT ARE YOU KNOW AT SOME THINGS THAT ARE FUNNY BUT I WOULD THE SOMEWHAT CRITICAL I >> AND THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE. >> I THINK THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS IT THIS IS AN ENHANCED THAT WHICH IS THE DIFFICULTY SO WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT DON'T HAVE OF COURSE OF COURSE MEANS THAT JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN. KNOW THAT WE CAN FIND THE MONEY WE WILL LOOK FOR GRANTS WE WILL DO ALL KINDS OF OF ITS NOT I'M OBVIOUSLY GIVE UP ON JUST AHEAD. >> NOW DOES THAT MEAN THAT OUR PERSONNEL CAN NOT USE OF THE SYSTEM. IT IS A CERTIFIED LAST BUT THEY HAVE TO COURSE IS CERTIFIED HE'S THE ONLY THIS FOR SURE THAT WE CAN TEACH NOT JUST HAVE A COME THROUGH. ONE STATION. THAT ADDITIONAL. OKAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> I KNOW IT'S A DO OWN ONE PERSON TO CERTIFY TO USE THAT. SO MUCH BUT YOUR SET TEACH HE DID TEACH THAT. >> ALL BEFORE I GO TO COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER EMRICH SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> NO MA'AM. >> SHORT AND SWEET COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> YEAH, THE 10% I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN ANSWER WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THE CONSULTANT ARRIVES. BUT THE INCREASE. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE 4. THE AVERAGE 3, 2, HOME 80 BY ONE 20 WHAT DOES. >> A BIG LAST COURSE AVERAGE HOME BASE BASED ON THE ECONOMY AND WHAT'S GOING RIGHT. BUILDING BUT LAST YEAR WAS 285 GET BUILDING BACK. SAW SOMETHING DIFFERENT ON ON THE BUILDING VALUE SHOT THAT WE SAW SUSPECT SHOT STARTING IS THERE'S INCREASE OF 16% THANK YOU. IT SHOWED INCREASE OF 16%. BUILDING VALUES ACTUALLY DECREASED 1.9%. EVEN THOUGH WE. BUT ON PARCELS WILL ADD A NEW PARCELS WE BETTER BUILDINGS THE VALUE OF ALL THOSE IN THE CITY OF DROPPED BY A 194 MILLION DOLLARS. WE WORKED THAT OUT TO NEWS FOR US. THAT'S YOU WILL SEE A 10% NOT TO EXCEED REQUEST RUN. SO THAT AVERAGE BUILDING VALUE HOME $280,000 LAST YEAR'S $240,000 BUILDING VALUE NOW. SO. WHEN WE WORKED THAT OUT WITHOUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S A 10% INCREASE TO EACH ONE OF THOSE RATES TO ONE TIER 2. THAT AVERAGE. WELL LEON THAT'S ABOUT $13 INCREASE. 10% INCREASE IN THE DOLLAR THAT THEY PAY OF THE MORE EXPENSIVE OR MORE VALUE TO THE HOME OR BUILDING MOSTLY ABOUT THE HIGHER INCREASE THAT IS THE USE THERE ARE BUT THAT ARE BUT HOLMES ABOUT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT. IT DOES THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE FOR CITIZENS THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS ANY INCREASES THAT ARE BEING POTENTIALLY PROPOSED AND SINCE THEY'RE WATCHING THE OTHER THING, SAY OUT OF THE BACK TO THE I BELIEVE THE MOVE THAT INCREASED TRUMP STILL PAY LESS THAN IT DID YOUR LAST. WE'RE GOING SHORTAGE >> WELL VALUE WHICH SO I ALWAYS YEAR AND WE WERE. LAST EVERY 4 YEARS WE DO OUR VALUATION OF OUR METHODOLOGY WE MAKE SURE THAT AT 70 30 SPLIT 20 TO ONE TIER 2. LAST WHICH WHICH 30% IS WHAT LIKE TO BUY THAT THAT BUILDING VALUE. IT'S KIND OF THE FIFTY-FIFTY HOPE THAT FOR YEARS LITTLE BIT SO CLOSE TO AND SO I'M JUST GOT BACK INSULATED US A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR THAT DROP STILL. >> BUT YOU DID A GREAT JOB I'M NOT SURE IF THE CONSULTANT, YOU KNOW THE ONE SPEAK FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE CONSULTANT NEEDED THIS TIME. BUT YOU DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT JUST TO REPEAT YOU SAID $13 A YEAR. SO WHAT YOU SAID NOTHING ABOUT LEAST WANT TO. >> ALL COMMISSIONER YOU YOU GET. >> YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS ARE YOU THE ONE THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THE OPIOID SETTLEMENTS. >> BUT WE ARE RECIPIENT WE'RE WE'RE ONE OF THE RECENT INCIDENT. PART THAT AND THAT I POWER AND FOR U.S. OPEN. ALSO FUN, IT'S ACTUALLY AS THE COUNT THAT TEAMS ARE WORKING ON. BUT THOSE THINGS CAN BE USED FOR THEIR PERIMETER CAN BE USED. BUT THEY WERE BEFORE A POLICE SOCIAL HAD A NEED SO WISH WE ARE OUT. WE CAN TRUST FUND. IT'S NOT LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION. >> MAYOR I'M NOT SURE IF NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO ASK FOR I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS FINISHED. >> I HAVE NO OTHER LIGHTS ON HERE. GOOD GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER I'D LIKE SEE ABOUT GETTING A CONSENSUS TO. >> AND STRUCK THE CITY MANAGER TO FUND BUDGET PROPOSAL TO 8 TO ONE. THE REPLACEMENT RADIO SYSTEM EQUIPMENT ON PAGE, ONE 89. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A CONSENSUS BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. THAT CITY MANAGER TO 2, 1, TO REPLACE RADIO SYSTEM EQUIPMENT. AND COMMISSIONER DOWN COMING YEAR, YES I COMMISSIONER LANGDON I WOULD BE A YES. THE U.S.. >> I SPEARS E S COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. YES OKAY. I THINK ALSO KIND OF UNDERSTOOD THAT WHEN WE GIVE DIRECTION TO FUND SOMETHING OR REMOVE FUNDING. >> A SPECIAL I SHOULD SAY WHEN WE REQUEST TO FUND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. HORTON TO KNOW WHERE THAT FUNDING THEN CAME FROM. YOU KNOW SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION. GUESS WE DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. BUT A THE CONSULTANT IS HERE. >> IF YOU PRESENTATIONS ARE ABLE TO DO >> EACH ALL THIS WAY THERE HAS TO SAY NO IT WOULD NOT BE MINING. >> THANKS FOR THE PARTY USE. SPENT A FEW DOZEN HE'S WORKED FOR. NOW WORKING ON THIS FOR YOU TALK ABOUT THAT SO HE'S HE'S GOING WITH THE IMPACT OF THAT I SPOKE VERY BRIEFLY QUESTION HOW HAVE OCCURRED. >> YOU GUYS SHOULD KNOW ME BY NOW BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY A THING FOR 6 AND WITH FIRE DISTRICT AND THE ROAD INJURIES DISTRICTS FOR FOR ABOUT AS LONG. LAST YEAR WE DID THAT STAY FIRE SUSSMAN AND THIS YEAR IT'S A LITTLE SIMPLER ARE GOING BACK TO JUST LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL FORECAST. UPDATING THAT BASED ON UPDATED DATA INPUTS SO BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YESTERDAY DESCRIBES PRELIMINARY RESULTS AND SO WE'LL START WITH LITTLE BACKGROUND WHAT'S FIRE ASSESSMENT PROGRAM OVER LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WOULD YOU RECAP OF LAST WHERE WE END IT OFF WITH THE PLAN WAS WHAT WAS THE PLAN BASED ON. AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE UPDATES AND POTENTIAL CUSTOMER. SO THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT METHODOLOGY JUST AS A REFRESHER AND RATE STRUCTURE WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2014 BY OUR GROUP. IT'S A 2 TIER. A METHODOLOGY TIER ONE IS FIXED OR CURRENTLY PAY A 156 PER PARCEL. AND HERE TOO IS BASED ON A VARIABLE RATE SO IT VARIES DEPENDING ON VALUE TOTAL STRUCTURE VALUE OF PROPERTY SO THE HIGHER THE VALUE MORE UNITS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THAT PROPERTY AND THEY PAID $2.53 UNIT. A REPRESENTS $5,000 OF STRUCTURE ABOUT. THIS MOSTLY REFERRED TO IN THE INDUSTRY IS FAILED BILITY METHODOLOGY IT'S COMMON THROUGHOUT THE STATE THERE MANY OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES AND FIRE DISTRICTS THAT SINCE AS I SAID WE'VE BEEN HELPING THE DISTRICT IN THE CITY WITH UPDATING GREAT PLAN FOR CASTING PLANT. THE DISTRICT'S FINANCES ARE CLOSELY TIED TO THE RATE REVENUE THAT THEY RECEIVED THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT PROGRAM TO ITS IMPORTANT TOO. A PROJECT THAT REVENUE FORWARD BASED ON NUMBER OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT THEY CAN PLAN FOR THE FUTURE FOR THINGS LIKE ADDITIONAL PERSON NOW. THE IMPACTS OF FIRE STATIONS CENTER. IN 2020 FOR THE FIRE ASSESSMENT RATES FOR RE ALLOCATED BASED ON ORIGINAL METHODOLOGY SO IT'S ABOUT 10 YEARS SINCE YOU REALLY LOOKED AT THE ALLOCATION BETWEEN TIER ONE TIER 2. AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP TO RECOVER 70% FROM TIER, ONE 30% FROM 2 TO AND IT STRAIGHT PRETTY FAR FROM THAT SO WE HAD TO DO REALLOCATION AND THAT'S WHY THEY REACHED CHANGE SO DRASTICALLY. IN 2020 FOR THE AVERAGE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WHICH A ESTIMATED $280,000 STRUCTURE VALUE IN THE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM INCEST AND TAXABLE VALUE THE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF THE HOME ON THE PROPERTY. THAT'S 56 TV USE THIS IS LITTLE BUILT CALCULATOR YOU TAKE THAT ONE 5620 TIMES ONE. IF THEY JUST PAY THAT ONCE A FIX CHARGE AND THEN THE 2.53 TIMES 56. SO YOU GET A 156 PLUS A 141, AVERAGE TOTAL ANNUAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE FIRE DISTRICT WAS $297 LAST YEAR. WE WERE TO UPDATE A FIRE DISTRICT'S FINANCIAL PLAN AND THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OR A SCREEN SHOT FROM LAST YEAR'S PLAN SO THE FIRST IMAGE THERE SHOWS THE IF YOU START FROM THE LEFT-HAND SIDE YOU CAN SEE 23. WE ACTUALLY REDUCED BOTH HERE ONE INTO RATES BY 14%. THIS WAS DIRECTLY A RESULT 52% GROWTH AND STRUCTURE VALUE WHICH WAS UNPRECEDENTED FOR THAT YEAR WE'VE NEVER SEEN LIKE THAT BEFORE. YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO CALL THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT AND JUST A PRODUCT WHERE WE YOU KNOW THE MARKET THE CITY. IN 2024. WE DID THE REALLOCATION SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF IT MOVED TO TIER ONE AS ORIGINALLY WAS INTENDED TO IN THE FIXED RATE AND THEN TEAR TO WAS REDUCED SO YOUR REVENUE IS RIGHT-SIZED YOU'D GET 70% YOUR REVENUE FROM FIXED PER PARCEL 30% OF YOUR REVENUE ACCORDING TO STRUCTURE ABOUT. AND THEN WE HAD A GREAT PLAN GOING FORWARD. 6% GROWTH IN THE RATE FOR TIER, 1 ONE PERCENT GROWTH RATE TO 2 THAT WAS PROVIDING FOR A FINDING SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL FUTURE OF THE DISTRICT BASED ON ALL PROJECTIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE A MODEL. NOW THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED ORANGE. SO THAT'S OUR GOAL REALLY OF THIS UPDATE IS TO LOOK AT THAT 6% AND ONE PERCENT BASED ON THE ASSUMPTIONS AND UPDATE THE STORM. WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING THE DATA. SO AS I SAID YOU'RE TOO REVENUE REPRESENTS 30% OF THE OVERALL AND HERE'S A TABLE THAT SHOWS YOU GROWTH SINCE 2022 OF FEW TO USE. SO STARTING IN 2022 THERE'S 12 AND A HALF PERCENT GROWTH IN TIER 2 2023 WAS THAT UNUSUAL 52% GROWTH. 2024 WAS 15%. AND THEN 2025 26 YOU PROJECTED 8% 5% BASED ON HISTORICAL TRENDS. SO THE BELOW TABLE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THOSE LAST 2 YEARS. THE ORANGE HIGHLIGHTED THAT'S COMING FROM THE ACTUAL DATA THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND INSTEAD OF A PERCENT GROWTH ARE ACTUALLY SEEING SLIGHT DECREASE OF ONE 0.9% STRUCTURE VALUE AND THE COUNTY CITY. I'M SO BECAUSE OF THAT WE DECIDED TO REVISE OUR PROJECTED GROWTH FOR TIER 2 UNITS DOWN FROM 5% 3% FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECTION PERIOD. COURSE THESE THINGS ARE TRYING TO ERR ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE. NO ONE HAS A CRYSTAL BALL SO YOU CAN'T REALLY PREDICT THE FUTURE THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW WE WERE. FROM THE 2025 EXPECTATIONS WITHIN CS A DRASTIC OF A COOL DOWN AND SLOW DOWN TO OCCUR IN THE CITY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS. BUT THE ADVANTAGE OF YOU'LL SEE THE IMPACT ISN'T SO GREAT. 4 IN 2023 WENT BEFORE WE DID THE REALLOCATION YOU'RE RECEIVING 60% OF YOUR REVENUE FROM HERE TOO SO THIS 2% DECREASE WOULD HAVE HAD A VASTLY MORE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE DISTRICT'S REVENUES AND HAD TO ADJUST MUCH MORE DRASTICALLY OUT FOR THAT. SO OUR UPDATES ARE BASED ON THE 2020 FOR THEIR CURRENT YEAR BUDGET AND THEN THE 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET AS IT STANDS TODAY. KEY ISSUES THAT ARE CURRENT FOR THE DISTRICT'S FINANCES, THERE'S A LAST YEAR FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND OVERHEAD A SERVICE COSTS. THERE WAS ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND OPERATING COSTS THAT THE ARE PROJECTING RELATED TO THE FIRE STATION NUMBER 89. 89 THERE'S A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING IMPACTS THAT WE'RE THAT IMPACT THE SALARIES AND WAGES AND THE DISTRICT'S FINANCES. AND THE FUNDING FOR THE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT. MAINTAIN ASSET. OKAY SO THIS SCREEN SHOT HERE IS OUR UPDATED PLAN BASED ALL THE ASSUMPTIONS AND AT INPUTS AND JUST DESCRIBED. IN 2025, THIS IS OUR CURRENT NOT TO EXCEED RECOMMENDATION THAT ALLOWS A FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE PROJECTIONS PERCENT AND THAT'S ACTUAL YOU KNOW NOT LIMIT OF WHAT YOU CAN REQUEST FOR INCREASE. AND THEN GOING FORWARD THERE'S A PERCENT INCREASES IN 2627. IN WE'VE INCLUDED ESTIMATION FOR ANOTHER REALLOCATION AND THIS ONE WILL BE MUCH LESS DRASTIC SONS WERE GOING TRYING TO DO THIS EVERY 4 YEARS NOW INSTEAD OF I THINK IT WAS 10 YEARS SINCE THE LAST TIME SO IT WILL BE LESS OF AN IMPACT CUSTOMERS TAXPAYERS AND CITY. AND THEN AGAIN IN 2032. SO THIS PROJECTION INCLUDES THE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS. YOU'LL SEE IN THIS MIDDLE SECTION HERE WHERE IT SAYS AVERAGE SINGLE-FAMILY YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S GONE FROM 56 50 IN 2025 BASED ON THAT REDUCTIONS STRUCTURE VALUE SO THE ACTUAL INCREASE TO THE AVERAGE SINGLE-FAMILY BILL WITH A 10% RATE INCREASE IS $13. ANNUALLY. THAT'S A 4.3% CHANGE. EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE RATES ARE GOING UP 10%. EVERYBODY STRUCTURE VALUES ARE GOING DOWN SO THAT THAT BILL ONLY INCREASES BY 4 POINTS. AND THEN THE PROJECTED INCREASE FOR THE BILL IS A AROUND 10%. SO A PERSON IN FUTURE YEARS. OUR GOAL IS TO TRY AND MAINTAIN THE DISTRICT'S FUND BALANCE OR ABOVE THE RED LINE THERE THAT'S A 20% TARGET. YOU'D LIKE IT TO BE CLOSER TO 25% WHICH IS THAT MIDDLE LINE. REPRESENTED BY THE PURPLE LINE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THIS CURRENT PLAN UNTIL ABOUT FISCAL YEAR 2030 YOU MAINTAIN AT LEAST THE MINIMUM FINE BALANCE. YEAH, OF COURSE THIS IS A PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED ANNUALLY AND SO WILL JUST IN GOAL IS TO NEVER GO BELOW LINES YOU MAKE OF JUSTIN'S THAT. THAT'S WHERE IT SO THE THIS TABLE HERE SHOWS YOU THE AVERAGE STRUCTURE VALUE SINCE 2022. AND THE AVERAGE SINGLE-FAMILY BILL THIS IS ACTUALLY REPRESENTS LAST YEAR'S PROJECTIONS. SO YOU CAN SEE GOES IN 2025, WE'RE PROJECTING IT TO GO TO 300,000 AVERAGE STRUCTURE VALUE FAMILY HOME THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A $319 BILL. >> AND >> 315,020 26. THE UPDATED PLANNED ACTUAL RESULTS OF THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY APPRAISER DATA ONE FIRM TO 82 TO 5TH. INSTEAD OF 2.80 TO 300 SO THAT'S THAT REDUCTION STRUCTURE VALUE AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE BILLS IMPACTED BY THAT WE WERE PREVIOUSLY PROJECTING A $319 AVERAGE BILL IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE $310. SO HERE'S SOME MORE GRASS THE CUSTOMER IMPACTS YOU'RE USED TO SEEING GRAPHS IT THROUGH THE SAME PROPERTIES THAT WE LOOK AT REPRESENTATIVE PROPERTIES AROUND THE CITY. THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL GRAPH SO YOU CAN SEE. >> THE BAR REPRESENTS THE UPDATED BILL. >> ESTIMATED BILL BASED ON OUR CURRENT PROJECTIONS RAE SHOWS PREVIOUS YEAR. THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH YOU KNOW LARGE LOTS AVERAGE THESE ARE SOME LARGE NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES I LOOK AT THESE AND SOME OF THESE BIGGER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE ACTUALLY SEEING DECREASE IN IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT STRUCTURE VALUE THE COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER UP ITS IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S TIED TO THAT. THESE ARE SOME SMALL NON RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES. AND THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF MY PRESENTATION I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> GREAT PRESENTATION AS ALWAYS THANK HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO FOR FUTURE USE. ONE THING I NOTICED IS NOW THERE'S TALKS OF THE STATION 89. SOMETHING NEW. STATION 87. LAST I HEARD WAS GOING UP BY TOLEDO BLADE AND 75. AND 88 IS. >> IT'S. >> AND TO TELL US WHERE THEY'RE GOING. THAT PARTIALLY FOR THE FIRST DISTRICT. SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE OFF TO THE RACES ON WHICH NEXT 7 TELL YOU THAT WE'VE IN TALKS WITH BALLPARK. INTO SPACE THAT THEY WILL GO TO DESIGN PROBABLY EARLY FALL. A LITTLE BLAME I 75 HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF STUMBLING BLOCKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF BE NECK I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING OUT SOME BEEN WORKING WITH ON. WHAT CAN YOU DO TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ADEQUATE. WHAT ARE OTHER THINGS OUT THERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CONSULTANTS THERE'S ROOM DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE DOING IN A PAIR OF THE NORTHEAST. ACTUALLY WE DISCOVER POTENTIALLY MONDAY TO FIRE STATIONS YEAR ON TIME WE'LL HAVE WE HAVE A MASK OUR STATIONS SPEND VOTE WILL A PERSONAL. THESE ARE NO LONG-TERM PLAN. WHERE THOSE WILL GO WE HAVE KIND OF GENERAL IDEA VOTE FOR CHANGING ROAD NETWORK OUR RESPONSE HAS IT WAS A. CODE THAT CHANGED SO IF YOU PUT DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS OF THE POPULATION MORE THAN ONE PERCENT INCREASE. FOR OF COURSE, I'M TALKING CURRENT THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE OR SPONSOR TIME TO BE IN AREA. WELL THAT'S IT FOR SOMEWHERE FEW MOMENTS TIME WE GET THE U.S. ARE STARTING WILL PARK IN OPEN FOR SUMMER. YES FIRST STATIONS IN THE HE SAID ♪ 8889. I'M NOT. ♪ YOU CAN'T GO 90 CAUSE THAT'S LONGER NEXT WE TALK ABOUT. WE MAY >> THOSE STATION 89. IT'S LIKE EAST OF LAKE DOWN BY SAN MATEO YORKSHIRE AREA. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHERE THAT MICHAEL. >> PROBABLY AREAS THAT TELL DEVELOPMENT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN TOSSED OUT FOR ABOUT THE STUNNED THE CITY. THAT'S WHEN TURNED ARE AMONG KURDS OF ANYWHERE 5 TO 7 YEARS TO TURN THE SO. >> I CAN TELL SO THAT SECOND STATION WHILE PARK WE PLANNED. WE THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY LIKELIHOOD OF THE FIRST PATIENT LONG PARK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE >> WE'RE YEARS. >> I'M FROM SOUTH STATION 5 A WE ACTUALLY EXPECT THAT WITHIN THE THREE-YEAR WINDOW. I BOTH BACK A LITTLE SO HE'S WORKING WITH THEM SO WE STILL WILL BE RELATIVELY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS RIGHT OUT A FEW REMEMBER WHEN WE HAVE SUCH YOU KNOW IT'S STATIONARY TO IT WAS TIME A WAY TO STATION 3 RIGHT. AS WE LOOK AT WE GET BUSIER AS WE LOOK AT OUR SERVICE PASS STRANGERS AND TO BECOME STRAINED. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY IN FOR UNITS JUST ARBITRATION EVENTUALLY ESPECIALLY TO REST WILL BECOME FULL TIME ANOTHER RESCUE STATION WILL BECOME SOME STATES VERY GOOD LIKELIHOOD, OPTIMIST. WORKS DROPPINGS. >> I'M SURE SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE GROWTH IS PAY FOR GROWTH DO IMPACT STUDIES AGAIN AND MAKE SURE THAT. >> WE'RE COLLECTING WHAT WE NEED TO COLLECT FOR THE SO THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE I DO APPRECIATE IT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION. >> ALL COMMISSIONER LANGDON THANK YOU MAYOR I JUST WANT TO COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL IS REQUEST. I LOVED YOUR PRESENTATION THAT WAS A LOT OF VERY INTERESTING DATA. >> AND THEY'RE AND THAT LOVE FOR THAT TO BE AVAILABLE IF WE COULD ATTACH IT TO THE AGENDA SO THAT IT'S PROBABLY AVAILABLE THAT WOULD BEAT HER. >> ALL RIGHT MAYOR. THANK FOR QUESTION WELL IN PART THAT CO SO TOO. EACH. WELL A WATER MAIN IT BUT OF THE BEACH ROAD RADIO. IS A CONTEMPLATION THERE AND OR OUT EAST. TO TRY TO DO ANYTHING LIKE YOU DID WITH THE PREY DO SAFETY BUILDING WHERE ITS DEVELOPER BILL AND THEN. DONATED TO THE CITY AND PAYBACKS IMPACT FEES TO DEFRAY THE COST OF ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION. BASICALLY YEAH, I MEAN WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF PROJECTS, YOU KNOW LEAST WE KNOW BILL JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE DON'T PROPERLY WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO MORPH INTO IF IT'S DONE PROPERLY. YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE A GREAT. OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT SPECIAL DISTRICT TO DO IT. NOT BE ON BACKS OF US FINANCIALLY SO TO SPEAK AND WRITE IMPACT FEES PAY A CULVERT I MEAN CONTEMPLATING DOING ANY OF THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO BE CREATIVE. WILL SO. INSTITUTION IN ORDER. YOUR FIRST QUESTION WELL APART, THE STUDY, ORIGINAL COURAGE TO SPEND THAT WAS DONE THAT SHOW. >> AND ESPECIALLY OF 2 STATIONS WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR ON THE ROAD NETWORK WAS NOT BUILT OUT. ROAD NETWORK THAT IT COMES OUT THAT WHEN THEY DO THE NEXT CURRENCY STUDY WHICH WILL BE AT THE 13,000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR YOUR THOSE THAT WORK FOR OUT AND AGREE TO THE ORIGINAL POST ATTENTION REALLY. THAT IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW BEING RESTATED THAT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE. WHEN THAT OF HER STUDIES DONE. IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT AND WHAT WE'RE ALSO REACHED AGREEMENTS ARE STATIONED IS NEEDED. THE DEVELOPER PAY FOR READ BACK FEES. WE ALSO INFORMATION THAT THERE'S A LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY WILL NEVER GET REIMBURSED FOR ALL OF THE IMPACT HIKE UP THERE AND WHEN YOU LOOK ON HOW IT TO BE THERE SURE WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BURNED LAST. A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT WAIT I 75 WORKING WITH 3 DIFFERENT HELPERS AND WE ARE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS SURE. WE GET THEM AND THEN BUT FROM WHAT WE CAN SAY WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY. NO THAT THERE'S A LOT WAYS TO GO THROUGH I CAN TELL THERE IS FUNDING SOME FOR STATION ON PARTIAL REFUND RIGHT NOW THE FIRST FRUSTRATION YOU KNOW THE THE OTHER DIFFICULTY, YOU COST OF LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE ALL THOSE THINGS PLUS PERSONAL COST MAKE PEACE. >> WHAT ABOUT YOU KNOW WITH THE SECOND STATION UP. AND WELL WHAT WOULD BE THE 3RD. IT WILL BE PROBABLY CLOSER PROXIMITY ENGLEWOOD AND WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT GOING ON AND THEN GO WOULD OR PROPOSED OFF WINCHESTER IT'S TEARING THE THOUGHT OF A JOINT COLLABORATION WHERE THEY CAN PONY UP SOME MONEY OUT THERE DEFRAY THE COST. >> SOME STARTED DROP OFF US YES. SO WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS. BOTH WITH PROBLEMS AS TO ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A DISCUSSIONS WITH FIRE CHIEF MEGAN WOULD MENTION TO THE ARE GOING TO GET CLOSE TO THAT TIME. MAY BE SOME MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. UNTIL WE GET THERE WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU KNOW I WOULD MAKE SURE WE OURSELVES FROM THIS WE DON'T WANT JUST OUTSIDE AND SEE CAUSED 1000 HOMES GOING IN ON WINCHESTER HOUSTON. I'M SURE THINGS THEY'RE DOING THE STATION OFFICIALLY MASTERS THIS YEAR. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL ADDRESS SOME OF NEED TIMELINE GOES ON THE MOMENTS WE'RE TOLD OPERATING OUTS RESTAURANT. >> SO MUCH REGIONAL COLLABORATION IF A VARIETY YEARS NOT JUST FIRE RESCUE AND SO YOU KNOW WHEREVER WE CAN POOL RESOURCES IT MAY BE USUALLY I THINK CURRENT SO. >> PREVIOUS FOR CHEAP LAPTOP LITTLE BIT. PURCHASE PARTY BUT NOTHING ON. YOU HAVE STATIONS AND I'M SURE IT'S A COACHING SOME TIME, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT PLACES THAT MAKE REMEMBER THAT STUDY COMES OUT HOW IMPACTS ARE BEING WHAT THINGS MIGHT. BENEFICIAL OF DEVELOPMENT ONE OF THOSE STATION HOUSE. DEPARTMENT'S OVERSIGHT SOME OF THAT. MISSION. FOR KIND OF US IT'S A PROPERTY MUCH FOR US LOCATED OVER IN THAT AREA WOULD ALSO PROPERTY. SURE THERE BE SOME COOPERATION. >> SHAPE THAT THE OTHER QUESTION I I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW CERTAINLY FOR MY BENEFIT PROBABLY FOR MANY PEOPLE. I WANT THE WORLD WITH PRAISE PROPERTY VALUES GOING UP BY 16%. HOW IS IT THE COUNTY AND ITS INFINITE WISDOM CHEESES TO LIKE REDUCE THE VALUE STRUCTURE. I WHAT METHOD ALL JUST LIKE WERE HAVE WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM. >> I DON'T THINK POSSIBLY WHAT I I YEAH WE'RE STILL MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WAS YESTERDAY THAT TIME. >> THERE'S THERE'S ACTUALLY A AND I CAN SEND IT THERE'S A GOOD PAGE ON SARASOTA COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE THAT EXPLAINS THEIR PROCESS AND IT'S THE SAME PROCESS THAT EVERY ALL THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SAID DIDN'T HEAR THE SAME. YOU METHODOLOGY TO COME UP WITH VALUE, IT'S DIFFERENT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL THERE'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH COMMERCIALS INCOME. >> BASED SO IT'S. >> MORE ON THEIR POTENTIAL REVENUE GENERATING. PURPOSES AND THEN RESIDENTIAL YS. BASED MORE ON A. THEIR MARKET VALUE. THEY SAID IT'S IT'S IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. BUT ALSO HAS TO DO IS REPLACEMENT VALUE THERE'S THIS WHOLE PAGE AND I'VE READ IT IN. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN EXPLAIN IT MUCH BETTER EVEN AFTER READING THIS CASE CERTAINLY DOES FAVOR WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT A GREAT BOON FOR THE HOME DEPOT SAID THE WORLD AND THE OTHER LARGE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE GETTING A HUGE TAX TRUMP. YEAH WHILE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE TAKING IT IT TO THE 16%. AND IT REALLY MAKES YOU WONDER LIKE WHO CAME UP WITH THIS FORMULA AND WHAT WAS DANCING, YOU KNOW WHAT WAS MINDSET BEHIND THAT THE CITY JUST DOESN'T SMELL RIGHT TO ME NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT BUT IT JUST REALLY IS STRANGE KIND OF. >> SITUATION IS PEOPLE SEE THEIR INDIVIDUAL BILLS I THINK WITH WAS EXPLAIN TO ME WAS THERE'S YOU DISH GROWTH IS WHERE THE. REALIZED. PEOPLE ARE PROPERTIES WHERE DRILL. I'M SHIRLEY. ALL PROPERTY. MAYBE A LITTLE MORE POLISH. >> GET ALL RIGHT GOOD COMMISSIONER AVERAGE DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING. YEAH NICE LIFE PRESENTATION THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO GET THE YOU KNOW AS ALWAYS YOU DO A FINE JOB CHIEF AND KEEPING OUR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND AND WHAT IT NEEDS HOUR. GOING TO GO FORWARD AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF A HEADS UP ON WHAT WE ARE TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE FOLLOWING YEARS GOING FORWARD THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE INFORMATION. THAT'S ALL I GOT >> OKAY ALL RIGHT. YES AND I'LL JUST CLOSE OUT WITH SAYING YES KUDOS TO THANK YOU MISTER NAPOLI CORRECT YEAH. I'M SURE YOU HAD YOUR SHARE OF THAT'S A BY NAPOLI HAHA I'M SORRY I I INHERITED JUST COMING OUT BUT GREAT PRESENTATION REALLY MAKES A LOT OF A LOT OF SENSE AND ALSO FOR RESIDENTS KNOW HOW THESE FIGURES ARE ARRIVED BUT AGAIN I ALWAYS PUT OUR FIRE IN PLACE, FIRST AND FOREMOST AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE I WANT TO LIVE IN A MUNICIPALITY, SO WE HAD OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE JUST WELL WORTH KNOWING. THAT YOU'RE HERE AND THIS ENTIRE. BUT YOU KNOW THE SECTION EVERYTHING THAT ARE DOING FOR AS IT'S FOR REASONS FOR SAFETY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU MISTER NAPOLI FOR FOR A BEARING THROUGH ALL THAT THE TRAFFIC THE I 75 YET AND GETTING HERE SO WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING VERIFY, YEAH I WANT MAKE IT CLEAR, YOU KNOW ONE THING TALK ABOUT BUT MAYBE NOT WE'RE NOT >> WHEN THE BUDGET WAS FROM AND PROVIDE IT TO YOU ALL. >> WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN OUR. RIGHT FROM SARASOTA WHAT YOU SEE IN THE BUDGET. IT'S NOT ULTIMATELY WHAT ARE ARE THEY WILL BE THE NEXT REGIME BUDGET NOT TO EXCEED GREAT NIGHT. RATION OF. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE SHE CHANGES TOO. REVENUE ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO WE ARE TO EXPECT. >> THE SAME CHANGES SUCH SAYING OKAY THAT'S FINE. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP IF THINK ALL RIGHT, THANKS AGAIN. NIGHT DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE IS NOT. ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO PAST ITEM B. AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM C. 24 DASH 0, 8, 6, 8, WHICH IS THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE DEPARTMENTS. SO CITY MANAGER DON'T HAVE FOOD WE THANK YOU MADAME THANK YOU FOR HIGH WHERE WORKING THEIR BUDGET. >> AS WE MOVE TO UTILITIES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF A DIRECTOR TO GET AN ARROW. THEY HAVE COME HOME YEAR 2025 RECOMMENDED BUDGET. INTO TRYING TO DO IT OVER HERE. ALL THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT AND THE ROADS AREN'T YOU SEE THAT THEY HAVE A 100. POSITIONS A NEW OF IS A REMINDER. >> THIS IS SELF-SUSTAINING ON REVENUES AND EXPENSES THAT'S BASED ON THE WORK THEY DO IS BACK TO OUR THEY'RE OPEN. THESE 5 COLORS OF PRIORITIES. THE ENVIRONMENTAL SAYS. WANT LOOK IS ABILITY BROUGHT TRUTH THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE PRIORITIES >> COURT PROGRAM FOR OPERATION SHOULD OR PASS A PATIENTS ABILITY BECOMES LIKELY US. AS WELL AS FROM LIABILITY PUBLIC WATER. WATER RECLAMATION. 6 LIVING LONG RANGE IS HORRIBLE. RESIDENTIAL AREAS. A FIERY RINGITES IF YOU NEED TO KNOW IF HE'S GOING THERE. DEPARTMENT COVERS A LOT TO SAY THE LEAST. AS WELL THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDING MY HONOR CLEAR. INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL EACH OF THEIR. HAVE DIFFERENT PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND I'M GLAD TO SAY THAT WE'RE TRACKING THOSE IN. BUT THAT'S TRACKING ONLINE FOR THE PEOPLE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO BUILT, KNOW CUSTOMERS. LEEWARD FOR THAT WE IMPROVE THEIR PAYMENT OPTIONS MAKE IT WORK YOU WANT TO IT'S HIGH QUALITY OF SATISFACTION RATING. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT WATER. FOR REPORT TO ME AND RIGHT NOW AT THE SAID IT WAS 6. ONE PERCENT. LAST YEAR. THERE ARE WAYS GO TO BREAK FROM HEARINGS WILL HAVE MORE SUCH PEOPLE COME TO THEY CAN STRUCTURE ON PUBLIC WATER SERVICES TO 30 PROPERTIES WITH ON SITE WELL YEAR-OVER-YEAR THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE LAST YEAR WAS 52% THIS YEAR 2%. WHICH IS GREAT. OUR UTILITIES BUDGET SUMMARY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL CATEGORIES YOU SEE IN TRANSFERRED 1.8 MILLION DOLLARS. RATES OF THAT SERVICE A 2.2 MILLION DOLLARS CAPITAL NEARLY 15 MILLION DOLLARS OPERATING EXPENSES OF THIS DOING 11 MILLION DOLLARS. THESE DIVISIONS HAVE GOOD AMOUNT OF BUDGET PROPOSALS THAT ARE CLEARLY IN THEIR GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS YOU'LL SEE PROBABLY HISTORY CUSTOMER SERVICE THERE. IT WAS MENTIONED WATER SYSTEMS HAD A FEW AS WELL THAT TOBY YOU ALSO SEE A LOT OF THE IMPACTS AND NEEDS OF THIS DIVISION INCLUDING 11 CONFERENCE ROOM IMPROVEMENT FROM THE 2 THEM OF $97,000. ON THIS PAGE YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE WATER HIGHLIGHTS YOU CAN WELL OVER 220. $2000 AS WELL AS THE CAROLINA. IF VOTE FOR THE POOR 55. $1000. WASTEWATER SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR BUDGET PROPOSAL EXCEPT FOR THIS YEAR ARE WASTEWATER TRAINEE POSITION. WW WORKS ON THE REPLACEMENT UTILITY FOR $18,000. THE TERM PLEX ANNUAL MAINTENANCE UNTIL THEY GOT TO THE TO FUN. 4 $43,000. OPERATIONS HAVE A FEW INCLUDED IN THERE. I JUST WELL YOU KNOW BELIEVE COLLECTION AND DISTRIBUTION. THE COMMISSION POSITION TOO I THINK YOU FUND AS WELL AS A FIRE HYDRANT MAYBE IT'S A $50,000 A VACUUM TRUCK MAINTENANCE. UTILITY REVENUE POINT $45,000. YOU ALSO NO HERE ON THIS PAGE. A FEW MORE FROM OPERATIONS. DURING HEARING HAD THESE SOME OF THE INSPECTOR POSITION $428,000. AND I WILL STOP THERE AS IT TO R WITH THE RECORD ARROW IN HER WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE TO COMMISSIONER. >> VICE MAYOR. YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS TOO. WHAT YOU HAVE WITH THIS DEPARTMENT OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS IS TRULY AMAZING. MY QUESTION IS REALLY NOT SO MUCH. TARGET ON THE SPECIFIC ASKS HERE BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE ALL REASONABLE AND YOU KNOW MUCH NEEDED IN ORDER TO KEEP PACE WITH NEED THE GROWTH. MY QUESTIONS REALLY MY QUESTION GOES TO. HOW DO YOU PERCEIVE YOU NEED OVER THE NEXT 5 YEARS THINK WITH REGARD TO BOTH POTABLE AND RECLAIMED WATER NEEDS LIKE WILL WE MEET. OUR OUR OUR ROAST NEEDS. FROM THE FACILITIES AS WELL AS AVAILABILITY OF POTABLE WATER. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME ISSUES, I KNOW THERE'S CONVERSATION ABOUT YOU KNOW THE PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL WATER FOR WHERE DO WE STAND ON THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FACILITIES RECLAIMED WATER SPECIALLY OUT EAST. ASKED AS THAT AREA STARTS TO POP, I MEAN. COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT AND AND YOUR ABILITY WITHIN YOUR BUDGET TO HANDLE SOME OF THOSE MAJOR. CAPITAL NEEDS OR THE NEED TO GO BEYOND YOUR BUDGET IN ORDER THAT. >> THANK YOU IS THIS WORKING OKAY GREAT. I'M NANCY COUNTER UTILITIES DIRECTOR. MORNING EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION THAT IT'S A BIG IT'S A GOOD ONE WE CURRENTLY HAVE SOURCE WATER SOURCE STUDY UNDERWAY. >> TO TRY TO ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AT LEAST AT THE HIGHER LEVEL AND WHEN WE GET DOWN TO. ONES THOUGH ANY PROJECTS THAT WE CHOOSE TO DO FURTHER STUDIES ON WE'LL TAKE WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AND START TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. CERTAINLY IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE OVER 5 1020 15 YEARS. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS AND ONLY TYPE OF OPERATION THAT WE HAVE NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND THAT WE ARE POSITIONED VERY WELL FOR WATER WE'RE SURROUNDED BY WATER. WE HAVE WATER UNDERGROUND. HAVE WATER IN OUR BREAKING OUR RIVER. BUT THE QUALITY OF THE WATER. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT WATER SOURCE IS ALWAYS IN QUESTION AND I THINK HOMEOWNERS FEEL THE SAME WAY THEY HAVE WELLS YOU KNOW HOW LONG HELP US WATER. AND WHAT QUALITY WE'RE GETTING BECAUSE THE MORE THAT YOU PULL OUT THE MORE YOU ALLOW SALT WATER TO INTRUDE. AND SO THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TREAT AND WE COUNTRY WE CAN TREAT IT NOW WITH HALF OF OUR LEGACY SITE PLAN AT MYAKKA CURRICULAR WE CAN TREAT EARLY BUT THE WELLEN PARK PLAN. SO WE CAN GO DEEPER WITH OUR WELLS AND GET MORE WATER. THAT SOURCE. WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT UNDER THE STUDY. SO WE CAN INCREASE WATER IN THAT AREA AND WE CAN INCREASE WATER NEARBY PULLING MORE FROM THE CREEK WE WOULD HAVE TO GET PERMITS TO DO ALL THESE THINGS WE WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE OUR TREATMENT THE MIC PLANT TO TREAT WAR SELLING NATIVE WATER. WE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY TREAT ALL OF THE WATER. WITH REVERSE OSMOSIS BECAUSE TVS ARE THAT DISSOLVED SOLIDS ORGANICS THAT ARE IN THAT CREEK AND BE QUITE DURING DRY WEATHER. SO WE HAVE TO THERE AND THEN WE ALSO BLEND BOTH DURING THOSE TIMES WITH PEACE RIVER. I'M CURRENTLY. KNOW THERE IS THE ABILITY TO GET MORE WATER FROM PEACE RIVER. NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. I THINK WE'VE TALKED A GREAT LINE. SO ALL OF YOU ABOUT THAT. BUT SO THERE IS WATER. WE DO HAVE WATER WE'RE GOING TO IT'S GOING TAKE SOME CAREFUL PLANNING. AND FINANCING TO MAKE ALL OF THAT HAPPENED AND OF COURSE THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS THAT WE WE HAVE LARGE DEVELOPMENT LIKE WON'T PARK IS THE SOURCE WATER RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER. >> IT'S SO PART OF OUR PLANNING PROCESS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE OTHER. BECAUSE YOU'RE FINANCING. >> THERE'S A GENTLE REMINDER TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL COMMISSION THAT THE OF FLORIDA HAS ESTATE BUBBLE ALONG FUN. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THE CITY CANNOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ARE THE 2% LOANS. FOR 2030 40 YEARS. WE BECAUSE ARTHUR WILL NOT ALLOW THEY CAN MEASURE THAT WITHOUT GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC. FOR A VOTE. YOU THAT THE REMINDER THAT >> THANK YOU THAT ALSO ALLOWS US TO KEEP OUR RACE. THAT CURVE STEADY VERSUS A LARGE EXPENDITURE TO OUR CUSTOMERS. >> JUST BECAUSE MY CONCERN AS I MEAN, LET'S FACE AS IS. DEVELOPMENT ORIENTED AS WE ARE AS OUR GROWTH IS EXPLODING THE WAY IT IS THE MORE DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ON. EVERY DIV EVERY TIME WATER GETS MORE AND MORE WATER GETS SUCKED OUT THE WATER TABLES CONTINUE TO DROP MORE AND MORE SO ORDER COMES IN WHICH IT'S A GREAT EVER GREATER CHALLENGE TO. HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH SOME OF LONG-RANGE THE ABILITY TO THE AND THAT HAPPENS THE SO IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE THE FUTURE. IT MAY NOT BE IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS IT'S GOING TO BE A 1520 30 YEARS 50 YEARS OUT NOT GOING TO BE THE WATER AND AND GOING TO HAVE TO PLAN FOR AND IT'S REAL LARGE SCALE DOLLARS TAKES BALL SOME REAL PLANNING. HOPEFULLY THAT YOU KNOW WILL ALSO. PARTNER WITH OR DEVELOPERS A LOT OF OTHER ENTITIES OTHER THAT AND YOU KNOW INSIDE THE CITY OUTSIDE AS WELL BUT IT'S JUST TO CONSERVE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CREATE AN EVER GREATER CHALLENGE ARMS AS WE GO FORWARD AND LIKE I SAY IT MAY NOT BE WITHIN THE NEXT 5 YEARS, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE OUT THERE IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE I MAY BE POPPING UP DAISIES BUT LIKE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THE AS YOUNG OUR POPULATION WE DO NEED TO PLAN FOR THAT >> YOU ALSO ASKED RECLAIM WATER. RECLAIM WATER OBVIOUSLY DEPENDS ON OUR CAPACITY HOW MANY CUSTOMERS WE HAVE THAT. THERE'S ALSO DIRECT POTABLE REUSE A LOT OF SISTER CITIES ARE GOING TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE WATER SOURCE. SO NEXT YEAR WILL BE COMING OR 2 YEARS WILL BE COMING TO WITH A PILOT. TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH OUR WATER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN SO THAT'S THAT'S THE RECLAIM WATER THAT NOW IS GOING TO DIRECT PROBABLY SO. >> THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING I LET IT WHAT HELPED PLAN THOSE COMMERCIALS ABOUT IS THAT ON THE WORK SHE WELL. YOU >> EVEN IF WE DID THAT WHEN CUSTOMER WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH ASSETS AND THE GROUND ABOVE GROUND. THE REGION. THEY CAN'T REALLY BE EASILY FIXED. MAINTAINED WITH THE PAGE 2. IT'S JUST THE RHETORIC UP YOU KNOW WE DID ADD ANOTHER BEST. YOU HAVE PLANT THAT WAS BUILT IN THE 60 OUR WORK WITH 60'S. I THINK THIS REFLECTS THE LAKE SPLIT. THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO THE WEARER EVEN THAT WE DO AT THIS SUMMER'S. THERE'S HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF UNDER THE EARTH ABOVE GROUND THAT'S MAIN TAKE. >> PAGE THOSE DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT A DOUBT IT'S A. >> IT'S A RESOURCE THAT WE ARE SO COMFORTABLE WITH WE TURN ON THE WATER AND WE DRINK IT. WE USE IT BUT YOU'RE AGAIN OUR PROPERTIES AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY AND EVERYTHING WORKS GREAT THAT WITH AND AND THAT'S THE REALITY OF THE ONE FINAL THING I JUST TO GET OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THERE ARE YOU KNOW ALL ACROSS THE AREA, ESPECIALLY IN A LOT OF THE GOOD WHERE WHERE THEY SEE THE COST OF OF IRRIGATION WATER FINDS ITS WAY INTO THEIR DUES AND THERE. YOU THEIR THEIR QUARTERLY COST. WHERE YOU SEE US SITTING WHEN YOU COMPARE OUR RECLAIMED WATER RATES TOO. THE PUBLIC YOU KNOW STATE LARGE. THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE THINK GOD WE PAY SO MUCH BUT I MEAN I KNOW BETTER BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS. >> WE'LL PROBABLY ASK ON STAFF TO GIVE YOU A MORE PRECISE ANSWER I FROM MY UNDERSTANDING MUCH MUCH WHAT WE CHARGE I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN ADJUSTED FOR SOME YEAH, I WAS JURORS ELSE WANTS WELL IN PART I KNOW BECAUSE I FOLLOW THAT WORK DIRECTLY. >> THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I AM AND I KNOW THAT THE NEW RICH STUDIES THAT COME OUT THAT THE DISTRICT SPENT TIME ON. WE ARE RIGHT IN THE MID POINT. I MEAN RIGHT POINT WE'RE NOT THE LOWEST WERE NOT THE HIGHEST RATES ARE REALLY VERY VERY COMPETITIVE. IT JUST REALLY COMES DOWN TO A. TO MANAGE THE COSTS ***** MANAGING THE USE AND PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WE WE KNOW WE'RE IN FLORIDA. AND YOU KNOW WE SHOULD ALL BE STRIVING HAVE THE SPRAY BEAMING GREEN LAWNS STILL UP NORTH BUT PEOPLE COME DOWN HERE THAT'S WHAT THEY EXPECT THEY WANT THEY HAVE TO GET USED TO THAT SLOT. WHERE REALITY SHOULD BE BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND THANKS TO AND FOR BRINGING UP THE MOST STRATEGIC TOPIC IT WAS ON MY LIST ALSO. AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE WORKING ON A 50 YEAR WATER PLAN AND I'M MOST INTERESTED AND HEARING ABOUT THAT AS SOON AS IT'S READY. WE HAVE SOME WISHFUL THINKING ON MY PART. I'D LIKE YOUR TAKE OUR ASSESSMENT ON STABILITY AS WE WORK REGIONALLY SAW THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK FLOODING ISSUES. IT'S THAT MAY ALSO PROVIDE POTENTIAL ANSWER TO SOME WATER PROVISION IN THE FUTURE SHOULD I GIVE UP THAT PIPE DREAM OR MIGHT THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SOLVE 2 PROBLEMS WITH ONE EFFORT. >> NO DO NOT GIVE UP ON YOUR IT'S NOT I'M ALSO HIGH LEVEL THINKER I WATCH WHAT DURING A HURRICANE. AND WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE IS THINKING HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS WATER OUT OF HERE, I'M THINKING. >> CAN WE REACH OUR JOB OR HOW CAN WE STORE IT HOW CAN HAVE RESERVOIR AND WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING. >> DEPARTMENT AND THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP. TO COME UP WITH SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS AS PART OF OUR STUDY SO WE'RE NOT WORKING IN SILO OVER HERE THEY'RE LOOK THEY'RE THINKING AND LOOKING WE'RE THINKING OF LOOKING WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT WERE WERE STARTING TO LOOK AT. AGAIN IT WOULD COST MONEY BUT I THINK IF WE LOOK AT IT FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND WE HAVE OTHER PARTIES >> IT'S IT'S NOT A DREAM I BELIEVE IT CAN SO MUCH AND THAT THE STATE THE TURN OF THE CENTURY WAS DESIGNED TO DRAIN WATER FOR FARMING. SO OUR WHOLE STATE WAS DESIGNED TO GET RID OF WATER AND EVEN TO THE POINT OF BRINGING MELALEUCA TREES FROM AUSTRALIA. SO WE HAVE THANK THE OTHER WAY NOW. LET'S NOT TRY TO GET AHEAD OF WOODS. BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING IT AROUND OUR STATE AND SO WE HAVE GREAT EXAMPLES OF HOW TO DO THAT THE POTENTIAL RESIDENT WHILE MIGHT NOT BE I'M NOT GIVING UP ON ANYTHING IN TIME. >> THAT'S ONE MORE GENERAL QUESTION I'M ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS ABOUT RELYING ON THE PEACE RIVER BECAUSE I KNOW IT IN AN ONGOING BASIS IMPACTED BY THE OKEECHOBEE SORRY MISS ALAINA. HOW REALISTIC IS FOR US TO RELY ON THE PEACE RIVER GIVEN SOME OF THEIR. >> QUALITY ISSUES BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DO. WELL WELL. >> USE PEACE RIVER FOR DIFFERENT REASONS BUT THOSE THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING ON OUR OWN AS A CITY. >> THIS RIVER HAS THE ABILITY TO GET IT. LARGE SUMS OF MONEY. FROM THE STATE THEY ARE CLOSELY TIED TO THE SOUTH FLORIDA SOUTHWEST, FLORIDA, FLORIDA, THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. THEY HAVE. THE ABILITY TO DO THINGS THAT WE CAN'T DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE. OR THAT WE DON'T THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN GET. WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT AS OUR. DEPENDENCY WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TBE INDEPENDENT ABOUT WITHIN THE CITY. REGION. SO BUT THEY'RE BUILDING A WHOLE RESERVOIR. AND THEY ALSO ARE GOING TO BUILD AN ARROW PLANT THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE MORE WELL WATER. SO THEY HAVE PLANS FOR THE FUTURE ALSO PUT WATER SUPPLY. I DON'T THINK WE CAN RULE THEM OUT AS IS SOMEBODY WHO HELPS US TO GET THE TIMES THE DIFFICULT TIMES. I HAVE I THINK OUR ASSESSMENT WILL BRING THAT MORE INFORMATION ON JUST WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING OUT THERE I THINK IT'S. I HAVE SOME WHAT SOME OF MY OWN OPINIONS ABOUT BUT I THINK REALISTICALLY WE NEED MORE INFORMATION. I'M STILL PRETTY NEW TO THE JOB IN TERMS OF THE HISTORY OF OUR WATER AND THE THEIR HISTORY. BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON RIGHT NOW ABLE TO PROVIDE WATER TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS EVEN GOING AROUND US AND COMING ENGLEWOOD AND GOING BACK UP TO LAKEWOOD RANCH. SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF LONG-TERM PLANS AND WITH WATER AS WE NEED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE WERE PARTNER. BUT WHAT WE DO IN THE FUTURE. SO I THINK STILL. STILL BEING LOOKED AT. >> AREN'T HAMMOCK. HOW DOES THAT PLAY AND TO OUR FUTURE PLANS A CITY SACRIFICED A LOT. WHEN THAT PROPERTY BECAME A CONSERVATION. AREA AND WAS PRIMARILY THE WATER. SO US BACK. >> I THINK THAT THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TOGETHER WITH PLANNING AS THEY HAVE THEIR EYES ON EVERYTHING THAT'S THEY'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT OUR POTENTIAL IS. I THINK ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO IT'S SOME INFORMATION THAT FROM OUR CONSULTANT LIVE NOW FURNISH THEM WITH EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO COME BACK WITH THAT INCLUDING THE 3 STUDIES THAT WERE DONE ON STORM WATER YEARS ONCE WE HAVE THAT THEN WE CAN SIT DOWN AND START TO REALLY UNPACK ALL OF THAT AND ORANGE HAMMOCK IS A BIG PART OF THAT. >> OKAY THANK YOU AGAIN, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT 50 YEAR PLAN. I HAVE A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS MAYOR DO YOU WANT ME THEY YIELD TO COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL WATCHING DON'T WAS OUT OF THE I SAW A LOT OF INVESTMENTS AND FIREWALL TO SORT OF PROTECT OUR OPERATIONS, THANK YOU FOR THAT. MY QUESTION IS MORE AROUND PHYSICAL SECURITY WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PHYSICALLY. >> SECURE OUR PLANTS. >> AND SO I'M VERY ASSESSED OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT WENT THROUGH AS PART OF OUR MASTER PLANNING THAT WAS ALL LAID OUT AND WE'VE GOT THAT COVERED FOR OUT WITH DOING MASTER PLAN NOW IN OUR WASTEWATER PLANTS. BUT WE WORK COLLECTIVELY WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF HOW WE HARDEN OUR FACILITIES FOR PROTECTION. WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING OUT OF TRAILERS. THERE'S WITH THE BAG OR LARGE KNIFE. >> LET'S WHEN BUILDING SO WE COME WITH COUPLE OF WEEKS SO YEAH I THINK THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW WE ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE TIMES IN TERMS OF SECURITY. OUR FACILITIES AND OUR I CAN TELL YOU IT IS VERY VERY STRICT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE USING DEVICES. I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM ON A SOFTWARE UPGRADES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WE DO. WE COULDN'T TIP. WE WANTED TO WORK I THAT WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE ON US SO SO GOOD ABOUT THAT. >> AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT ONE OF YOUR PROPOSALS 2718. THE RECLASSIFICATION TO A WAREHOUSE OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR. ONLY 10,000 WAS ALLOCATED IN THE 25 BUDGET IS THAT A SALARY UP WITH IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT OF MONEY. >> WELL THAT PERSON WOULD BE VERY HAPPY DOING THE WORK OUT OF THE COMICS BOOKS. >> IT WAS BASED ON WHAT HR WOULD DO AS A REVIEW OF SIMILAR POSITIONS. SO WHEN IT GETS TO THE POINT ACTUALLY CREATING IT AND OFFER NEW COULD IT COULD WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A WAREHOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS DESTROYED IN THE HURRICANE. BUT WE'LL BE GOING INTO A NEW ERA FOR HOW SO WHEN WE DO THAT WE WILL BE PURCHASING THE SOFTWARE TO I INTO OUR LOU CITY SO WE CAN TRACK MATERIALS USED FOR WORK AND BROUGHT WHAT IT'S COSTING US TO TRULY MAINTAIN EQUIPMENT. SO THAT GOING TO BE VERY TECHNICAL, YEAH, IT THAT'S FOR THE PERSON. THE PERSON DOING IT NOW IS GOING TO BE ASKED TO DO A WHOLE LOT MORE SO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT. >> OF THE 10,000 FOR SALARY OR SOFTWARE THAT'S THE SALARY FOR THAT PERSON TO UPGRADE IOS YEAH OKAY GREAT THANK I YELLED, I'M DONE. >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU THAT QUESTION COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. COMMISSIONER LANGDON WHEN YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ORANGE HAMMOCK I COMPLETELY FLASH BACK TO. >> FIRST COUPLE YEARS THAT I WAS IN OFFICE THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED AND IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT THE CITY HELPED PONY UP SOME MONEY SO WE COULD HAVE SAY WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT WATER. NEVER AND NOW IT'S INCOMPLETE CONSERVATION. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW. OR WATER USE FROM NORTH US CAN HELP BENEFIT US AS OPPOSED TO. HARM SO I KNOW THAT WILL BE A MUCH LARGER CONVERSATION MUCH FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. AND I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE A MULTI YEAR KIND OF CONVERSATION AND PROJECT NOT JUST REGION. SO LOOK FORWARD TO FOLLOWING THAT ONE ALONG WITH HAHA. >> THE PEACE RIVER IS BUILDING THAT SECOND RESERVOIR. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING HERE AS FAR AS OUR. CONTRIBUTION AND I I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER WORD TO I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD IT WITHOUT ASKING SOMETHING OF THE CITY IS THAT LIKE. >> CAPTURED IN RATES IS THAT CAPTURED SOMEWHERE ELSE IS THAT SOMETHING COMING DOWN THE FUTURE JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL OF THAT WORKS LIKE. GIVE A RESPONSE AND THEN THAT'S NOT ENOUGH THAT I CAN MICHELLE TO STEP UP BUT. >> SO WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN OPERATING COSTS ONLY RIGHT NOW IN THE BUDGET AND THAT SHOW AND THEY'RE THAT'S ABSORBED OUR BUDGET AND OUR WAY. AS FAR AS WE ARE NOT PURCHASING CURRENTLY WE'RE NOT PURCHASING ANY WATER FROM PEACE RIVER. AND LAST WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH A DEVELOPER WANTS ADDITIONAL WATER. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING CURRENTLY. SO WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE DOING IT I. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME LEFT. BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING BACK FROM THEM SO WE'RE NOT PURSUE WHERE ARE NOT PURSUING ADDITIONAL WATER AS A CITY AS FOR OUR DISCUSSION EARLIER EARLIER THIS YEAR. >> SO IT'S A 2.8 MILLION DOLLARS 2.8 MILLION GALLONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY FOR TRIGGER. >> AND TESTING SO SO. THAT IS NOT BEING CAPTURED IN HERE ON THE REVENUE SIDE IN EXPENSE SIDE UNTIL WE GET THAT AGREEMENT IN PLACE AND I THINK MIND WAS JULY ON WELL WE WERE AT OUR DEADLINE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS IN THE FINANCE PROCESS WOULD BE THE 5TH OF JULY. ANYTHING PAST THAT WOULD MOVES SOME BUT FOR INTO THE INTERNAL PROCESS RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW WE ARE. >> VERY BUSY CITY SO IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO MOVE AN AGREEMENT ANY FASTER THAN BUT. >> THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS PROBABLY SITTING THERE GOING THE DEVELOPER AND THE SHUTOUT. >> COUNTY IS THIS THE SAID THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE. HE NOT SECURED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FINANCING OF THE RESERVOIR. THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF AND YOU CAN BUY FOR PREVIEW PRICE. SO THE GROUND FOR PRICE. IF YOU GET IN BEFORE THE FOR THE RESERVOIR. THE ROBOT THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT SEE IS THAT YOU IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF KNOWING THAT THEY CAN MAYBE DO IT BREAK IT UP SO THE BIG CHECK AT THE BEGINNING AND THEY SMALLER CHECKS WITH. WITH CREW THE COUNTY. BUT IT MAY GO TO WAR MONEY THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL TO THEM AS FOR PROSPECTIVE, BUT WE HAVE CONVERSATION. >> SO I'LL CONTINUE ON THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE I WAS KIND OF THINK IT IS WHEN THERE THANK >> THE. >> FROM WHAT I SEE IN THE HTE IS YOU ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE WATER AND SEWER RATES THE 2.5 8%. >> IS THAT ACCURATE. >> IT CURRENT YES ARE WATER RATE IS BASED ON AN ENR WHICH IS ENGINEERING NEWS RECORD AND THAT'S WHAT IT CAME WE'RE ALSO DOING A SUFFICIENCY STUDY. BECAUSE OTHER CITIES USING A CPI CAME IN ALMOST 5%. WE ARE OPERATING BUDGET. WE'RE ARE WE LIKE OUR OPERATING BUDGET BUT WE'VE HAD TO PUSH PROJECTS BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A LOW RATE. >> SO. >> WHERE WE'RE GOING YOU KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK THIS WRAPPING IT UP WE HAVE MEETINGS THIS WEEK WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO COME DOWN TO WHAT WHAT ARE WE DOING HOW WE'RE GOING TO. MAKE THINGS HAPPEN WITH THAT GREAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN BASING IT ON THAT WAS WHAT IS IT WAS APPROVED IN THE RATE ANALYSIS WHICH WILL START AGAIN NEXT YEAR WHILE BRANDON WRIGHT AND HOUSES. YEAH. BUT WE WEREN'T EXPECTING AND IT'S PRETTY LOW, YOU KNOW CONSIDERING WHAT ARE OUR NEIGHBORS MOST OF THE STATE IS COMING UP WITH WATER. >> AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE PAID TO GO. THAT'S BASES OR EVEN GOT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. IT MAY REQUIRE ARE BASED OFF OF THE GREAT CITY. THEY REQUIRE US GO HIGHER 2 OR 2. THIS OR PROJECTS THE SUSTAINABLE. >> THE NEW RATE ANALYSIS IS THE BUDGET FOR THAT ANALYSIS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. I STARTED YOUR BUDGET IS HUGE AND I'M SORRY I JUST REMEMBER JUST THING I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER THE CONSULTANT SERVICES IT IS OK. >> RECLAIMED WATER. >> I. I HAVE LEARNED. >> OVER THE YEARS THAT RECLAIM WATER IS A GREAT WAY TO USE WASTEWATER AND GAIN SOME MONEY FROM IT. >> HOWEVER THERE'S SOME. >> AND PARTS OF IT BECAUSE IT'S RELEASING MORE NITROGEN AND THAT THEN GETS WASHED AWAY CROSSING THING ALGAE RED TIDE ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING I NOT CORRECT IN THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD. >> OF THERE THERE WOULD BE A LEVEL OF NITROGEN NITROGEN IS REMOVED THROUGH THE WASTEWATER PROCESS UNITED NATIONS. OK SO AS A KIND SOUL. IT'S BROKEN DOWN BY 9 MEN FROM ATION THAT THANK YOU I THINK THE I DIDN'T RECLAIMED WATER IN HERE DID YOU BY CHANCE LIKE CHANGE THE NAME IS IT LIKE INCOGNITO I I JUST. >> DON'T >> RECLAIMED WATER. REVENUES AND THE RESIDENTS. >> YEAH. >> LOOKING FOR THE WORLD RECLAIM IT'S UNDER AFFLUENT. IT'S UNDER EFFLUENT AND SORRY, YOU KNOW WHERE OFFICIALS. I CAN TEAR YOU MA'AM, I'M SORRY IS THAT BETTER. OKAY IT'S UNDER COUNT, 3 FOR 3 5020. I'M LOOKING AT MY SHEET THOUGH, SO YOU MIGHT I MEAN LOOK AT 3 FOR 3 5, 0, DASH 2, 0, OKAY FOLK ACT, AFFLUENT EFFLUENT OKAY SO THAT'S RECLAIMED WATER. THANK YOU FOR >> EVEN BILL FEE IS THAT GOING UP THIS YEAR IS IT STAYING THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. THE EMAIL. I BELIEVE THAT IS SLATED TO GO UP TO. YOU CAN STILL ME IS THAT BETTER. OKAY OKAY I BELIEVE IT'S SLATED TO GO UP TO $3 OCTOBER AND THEN IT'S STAYING STEADY THERE. WAS A 3 YEAR INCREASE. >> I REMEMBER THAT THANK I JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER IF IT ENDED THIS YEAR NEXT YEAR OR >> COUPLE LITTLE QUESTIONS IN THE HTE. IF YOU LOOK AT IT ACCOUNT NUMBER PAGE ONE 93. YOU HAVE MISLAID NEWS BUILDING REPAIRS FOR THE WELLEN WATER TREATMENT BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE MISCELLANEOUS BUILDING REPAIRS. BELIEVE. THE MYAKKA HACHI CREEK THERE'S BUDGET PROPOSAL. SHERRY US WOULD HAVE THESE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS REPAIRS IN ADDITION TO THAT BUDGET PROPOSAL. >> BUDGET PROPOSAL LOOK WHAT THERE'S A BUDGET PROPOSAL 2678. >> AND ITS LAB CONFERENCE ROOM IMPROVEMENTS. CAN SPEAK TO THAT PARTICULAR YOU HAVE A CONFERENCE LEFT >> A SURPRISE IS SO THAT THE LACK OF PAN FLIGHT IS FOR THAT JUST A WASTE WATER WATER. THE IF THE LAB AND OFFICE CONFERENCE ROOM IS THE WASTEWATER PLANT OKAY WELL THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL IS CHARGING THE WATER SYSTEM >> YOU >> THERE ARE PROPOSALS FROM CONCRETE PLANT WHICH IS T ORIGINAL LABORATORY WHICH WAS BUILT WITH EARLY 70'S. I BELIEVE ♪ WITH NO UPGRADES SO THAT'S PLAYERS DO MOST OF THEIR WORK. AND YOU ♪ KNOW SINCE ARRIVING IN FOR THE MOST PART PART OF AN UPGRADE TOO. REINFORCED WINDOWS AMERICA, HURRICANE FORCE WIND THE HURRICANE GREED WHEN THE AND THEN CONFERENCE ROOM WHICH IS WAS IN ADDITION TO THE ARROW PLANT. IT'S JUST UPGRADED TO SUPPORT WERE PEOPLE IN TRAINING PROCESSES TABLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> SO THE BUDGET PROPOSAL 2678 IS FOR THE WINDOWS THAT YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT. LABORATORIES IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM, OKAY SO WHAT IS THE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS REPAIRS IN THE HTE THAT TOTAL $4,000 YOU MEANS. >> COMMISSIONER WAS TOLD THAT'S A BASIC FUNDS REPAINTING. AND ABOUT IT. >> HE SAID I'M I'M SORRY I'M HAVING HARD TIME HEARING THAT THAT BASIC PAINTING MAINTENANCE FUNDS, YES FOR MAINTENANCE AROUND THE BUILDING PAINTING MIXED THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THANK YOU. >> THEY HAVE USE. >> IF YOU GO PAGE ONE 96 IN THE HTE THERE'S A. >> CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AT A LATER DATE I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT SAYS IT'S BUILDING UPGRADES AT 10:00AM WASTE WATER RECLAMATION. BUT THIS IS UNDER THE WATER SYSTEM BUDGET. SO I'M CURIOUS. WHY WHY WOULD YOU HAVE MOIST WATER WITH WATER. IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT >> DO YOU HAVE LIKE A A PROJECT NUMBER BUDGET PROPOSAL 2 IN THE HTE IT'S UNDER 62 DASH 0, 0, BUILDINGS. AND IT SAYS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. YOU 24 LIKES AND BE LIKE BAKER YOU. IT'S TITLED BUILDING UPGRADES PAN AM WASTE WATER. RECLAMATION. $25,000. >> WE'VE GOT A BIG DIFFERENCE. MAYBE I THINK WHAT THE ANSWER WAS GIVEN WAS THAT IT'S A IT'S A 5050 SPLIT BETWEEN WASTEWATER AND WATER. >> CURRENTLY MAINTENANCE FALLS UNDER THE PLANTS WILL IN THE FUTURE BE A SEPARATE DIVISION, BUT ALSO UNDER THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PLANTS. AND SO THIS WILL BE A MAINTENANCE BUILDING IT'S BEEN ACTUALLY ONE OF THOSE IT'S DOWN THE ROADS FOR SOME TIME. SO THEY HAVEN'T HAD A THEY'VE BEEN IN A. EVEN SURE IF IT'S AN ACTUAL AND A ROUGH. AND WE'RE BUILDING AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE POSITIONS WERE BUILDING A MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN BE PROACTIVE FIRST REACTIVE WHICH HAD TO BE FOR SOME YEARS. SO THIS BUILDING IS FOR THAT. THAT'S WHAT LOOKING >> A NIGHT. I. >> HEAR WHAT YOU'RE AND I'M JUST HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY IS IT ON THEIR WATER PLANT AND SOUNDS LIKE IT IS ALL FOR WASTE >> IF IF I'M TRYING TO FIND THE ACTUAL CHARGES BUT MAINTENANCE WORKS FOR BOTH LATER WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE NOT NECESSARILY THEY'RE NOT DEDICATED TO A SPECIFIC WATERWAYS WHERE THEY MAINTAIN BOTH. HAVE HOPE IS THAT HUMP. ♪ ♪ >> I THOUGHT THEY HAD SOMETHING TO THAT'S IT'S SPLIT BETWEEN THE 2. THE. >> BUDGET PROPOSAL 2659. FOR A TRAINEE. MECHANIC TRAINEE AND AND OTHER ONE IS A PLANT MECHANIC. >> SEEING MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PLANT MECHANIC THAT HAS ALL THE CERTIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE AND ALL THAT COMPARED TO A TRAINEE WHICH SOUNDS LIKE COUNTRY LOCAL. THE DIFFERENCE IS LIKE ONLY $700. >> THIS IS THAT. FOR ABOUT A NINE-MONTH POSITION. >> OF HER. >> AND I KNOW THAT VEHICLES ARE BUT THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. >> THIS A CAREER DRIVEN. >> THE TRAINEES A NEW POSITION THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT IS IT'S GOING TO BE GROWN IN LEAPS AND BOUNDS FOR A SOME MAGIC VALLEY, SO THE CERTIFICATION TO DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE OF THE TREATMENT FACILITIES. SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THAT APARTMENT TO DEVELOP IT TO CONTINUE WE HAD VERY GOOD SUCCESS WITH TRAINEE POSITIONS AND THE WASTE WATER WATER OPERATOR POSITIONS. SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS. BUT AS FAR ♪ AS THERE'S AN EXISTING MAINTENANCE MECHANIC WONG. ♪ SO THAT'S OUR WITH SUMAN WAS BASED UPON THAT. HUMAN RESOURCES ON WHERE THE NUMBERS COME CAN ANSWER THAT. >> IF YOU WANT TO WOULD WORK ENSURE WE CAN GET THAT FROM THE TRAIL RESHOOT IT. YEAH IS IT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR TRAINEE IT'S LIKE 46,000 I'M SORRY 47,600. >> BUT THE ACTUAL MECHANIC IS LIKE 5,000. I'LL BE 50,000 THAT'S THAT. >> WOULD PROVE THAT RECEIPT ISSUES ARE APPROVED. AND THEN WE DEVELOP THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND WE DEVELOP EVERYTHING THAT GOES BACK THROUGH HUMAN RESOURCES. THEY TEND TO HAVE SOME ADJUSTMENTS BUT THEY ARE. EVEN AS A TRAINEE IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY WITH SOME CHEMICAL. THE ABILITY SOMETHING CHEMICAL TRAINING BUT WE WOULD HOPE FIND SOMEBODY LIKE THAT SO I THINK THAT PROBABLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT SO INITIALLY THEY LOOK AT THAT COMPARE IT TO OTHER JOBS AROUND. COME UP WITH THE SALARY WHEN >> LAST WHEN I HAVE IS YOUR BUDGET PROPOSAL, 2695 FOR CAROLINA SKIP. >> IT HAS. >> CURRENTLY TO SEE ID NUMBERS ONE CAN SKIP ONE FOR THE TRAILER. THIS PRICE OF $55,000 IS THAT INCLUDING THE TRAILER. ARE WE KEEPING THE OLD TRAILER IS IT GOING TO FIT WITH NEW SKIP ALL THAT COMES. IT ABOUT IT IS FOR BOTH THANK YOU. SO THE QUESTIONS I HAVE MAYOR THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER EMRICH YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. >> YEAH, I JUST HAD COMMENT. I MEAN I'M I'M I'M IN AGREEMENT VICE-MAYOR STOKES I WASN'T TOO WORRIED ABOUT THEIR ***. ESPECIALLY WANTED TO YOU KNOW SLASH ENTERPRISE FUND THEY'RE THE PROFESSIONALS, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED. THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP, THEY KNOW WHAT TYPE OF THEM AND TORY THE NEED TO HAVE SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY PROPOSE FOR THEIR BUDGET AND I ALSO WANT TO AGREE WITH DEPUTY CITY MANAGER YARBOROUGH WITH IT'S THE PAY AS YOU GO SYSTEM IS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EFFICIENT DOWN THE ROAD. I MEAN WE'VE GOT EXISTING LINES OUT THERE. THAT MAY NOT BE LARGE ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENTS. AND ALSO THE AGING SO WE MAY HAVE TO GO AND DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF REVAMPING AND IN SOME OF THE OLDER PIPES SYSTEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE. WE JUST NEED TO PREPARED FOR THAT BECAUSE IT COULD BE COLOSSAL AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS STATED BECAUSE THEY DO WANT HELP WITH JOB, BUT ALL IT TAKES YOU KNOW 1 ONE PROBLEM AND WHERE SOME SO I APPLAUD THEM FOR STAYING ON TOP OF APPRECIATE ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND ALL THEIR CALL AND ONE STOP THIS BROKE THEY GET IT DONE IN AND RECORD SPLIT TIME SO I APPRECIATE THE DEPARTMENT THANK THEM FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS THAT'S ALL I HAD. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT CONVERSATION WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT DIFFERENT THINGS AND I JUST WANTED TO. >> REITERATE THIS IS A SELF-SUSTAINING. I FIND IT'S PAID FOR BY THE USERS. SO BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO SERVICE USERS COMES FROM WHAT THEY'RE PAYING. I'M ONE OF THOSE USERS AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE I LOVE MY CITY WATER IT WAS THE FIRST BOX ON MY. LET'S THAT I HAD TO CHECK WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE THAT SULLIVAN HAD OF BEING ON CITY WATER VERY REASONABLE PROBABLY TO REASONABLE AND HIT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW THE WATER BILL AS IS SO AND IT'S NOT HIGH AT ALL WHEN I HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE WITH WEALTH AND THE STRUGGLES THEY'RE GOING AND SOME PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME. IT PART OF TOWN THEY'RE SAYING. >> WHEN DO YOU THINK WILL BE GETTING WATER OR SOMETHING AND I'M THINKING THAT'S REALLY A LONG WAY OFF CORRECT. >> WELL I LIKE TO GET IT BELIEVE THAT IT JUST THE THROW OUT A NUMBER THAT I HAVE HANDY HERE BUT WE'VE ADDED 24 MILES OF WATER MAIN JUST THIS YEAR. WE WANT 4 MILES IN THE IN THE DEVELOPMENT. DEVELOPMENT SO WE WOULD LOVE TO GET WATER UP TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND THAT WE COULD IT WAS ABOUT ANY WE COULD PAY THAT BRIGHT CONNECTION OKAY BECAUSE I KNOW WE IT WAS MENTIONED ACTIVITY CENTERED 6 WHICH IS OUT THERE AND AND AGAIN PEOPLE ARE SAYING YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE DECADES TO BRING WATER LINES IS THAT REALLY WHAT THE TIMELINE IS >> IT IS IF YOU GO BY THE MASTER STUDY FOR WATER AND SEWER EXPANSION HAS REALLY LOVE TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT. YEAH. >> AND CITY MANAGER THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE FACT THAT STATE DOES HAVE. >> MONEY AVAILABLE THESE REVOLVING LOANS AND WE JUST CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT TO ACTUALLY MAYBE MAKE SOME MORE OF THAT HAPPENED. AND THE MORE TIMELY FASHION. I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ORANGE HANEKE. ♪ AND YES BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE THE WATER THAT WE HAVE COMING THROUGH NORTH PORT WHICH CREATES PROBLEM WHEN IT'S TOO MUCH, BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY ♪ IS THAT. SAID I HAVE DOWN HERE. YOU TALK ABOUT THE SALT WATER INTRUSION YEAH, IT IS BIT CONCERNED. SEEM TO BE ADDRESSING THAT. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE THE RATES TO BE 2 AND A HALF PERCENT WHICH IS THAT. IT'S I HAVE THAT RIGHT. YES THEIR STILL NUMBER WE HAVE YEAH THAT'S STILL A I PAY WHAT I GET KNOWING THAT THE TURN ESPECIALLY AFTER THE AFTER AND I HAD MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ON WELL, THIS IS ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF ARROW COMING OVER THE MADE TO FILL UP BECAUSE THEY THEN ELECTRICITY, WE DIDN'T HAVE POWER YOU DON'T POWER YOU CAN PUMP OUT WATER AND SOME PEOPLE STILL THAT MAKE THAT CONNECTION LIKE WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE POWER ACT GETTING WATER YEAH, SOMETIMES YOU FORGET WHAT YOU NEED ALL THOSE COMPONENTS TO MAKE SOMETHING MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN. AND ALSO PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THEIR ELECTRIC BILL. THEY HAVE TO REMINDED EVERY TIME YOU USE WATER YOU'RE USING ELECTRICITY TO BRING THAT BRING THAT WATER WE ALSO WANT TO THAT I'M ERIN JUST WANT TO CORRECT THAT. >> THAT IS THE CURRENT RATE, BUT WE ARE DOING THE SUFFICIENCY STUDY IT COULD BE MORE RIGHT OKAY. >> ALL SO AGAIN DID CONVERSATIONS ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT HERE. >> WE DO NEED ANYTHING ELSE. >> MIGHT I JUST HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. THE 24 MILES OF WATER THAT 13 MILES OF. GRAVITY SEWER. AND WE ARE WE'RE GROWING VERY FAST BUT KEEPING UP WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY IS NUMBER ONE GOAL. >> AND THIS GREAT SO THANK YOU THANK YOU ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. IT IS 1046, ACCORDING TO MY SCHEDULE THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME SHE TALKING POINT HERE. >> WE ARE IN GREAT GREAT WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM THE SENATE AND OKAY. SO WE WILL COME BACK 1057 NOEL TO MAKE IT A LOT IS THAT OKAY THAT'S OKAY, 11 O'CLOCK. >> OKAY, IT IS 11 O'CLOCK AND WE ARE BACK TO OUR DISCUSSION STARTING TO THE BUDGET AND I NEGLECTED TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE UTILITIES PRESENTATION CITY CLERK WAS THERE THERE WASN'T OK THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM D 24 DASH 0, 8, 6, 9, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. AND CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. ALL RIGHT CONTINUE OUR JOURNEY TODAY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. >> AS A TOTAL OF 86 TOTAL PROPOSED POSITION THE FLOOD PLAIN ADMINISTRATOR. HE'S SECTOR AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE SPECIALISTS. WHICH WAS ZONING INSPECTOR FOR THE PEOPLE WHICH WE REMOVED ALL YOUR SHADES OF TOTAL ELECTED BE 3. WHAT'S UPDATE THE BUDGET BUT. I JUST. ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BY PRIORITY THE QUALITY OF VERY IMPORTANT AS KURD THE ABILITY LEVY A CULTURAL MUSIC. PUBLIC GATHERED FOR THE TOURNAMENTS AND RECREATIONAL OFFERINGS THEY ARE ALSO PROTECTING CONSERVING AND PRESERVING ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND RESOURCES. ENCOURAGING ABILITY OF ACCESS TO ACUTE HEALTH SOCIAL EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING FOR ALL AGES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS GROWTH MANAGEMENT IS ALSO UNDER THIS DEPARTMENT SUPPORTING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS IMPROVING CITY PROCESSES REGULATIONS TO PERMANENT INNOVATION YOUR FOOT. ALSO SEEKING OPPORTUNITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND THE SONS OF SUPPORT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IF I WANT TO IMPROVE OF COURSE OF COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PERCENT, 18% BY 2033. PURSUING A RANGE OF HOUSING OPTIONS AND AFFORDABILITY FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS. ALL IF YOUR KEYS. ALSO IN ENVIRONMENTAL RESILIENCE. SOMEBODY. LET'S THROUGH SOME OPERATIONS INCURRED FOR PUTTING WATER QUALITY TESTING IN RECYCLING PRACTICES AS FOR THE PROTECTION SPECIES AND HABITATS PUBLIC EDUCATION ACQUISITION CONSERVATION. EAST DIVISION HAS ALMOST MEASURES AS I MENTIONED OF LARGER DEPARTMENTS, SEE THAT NORMALLY OUR REPORTERS VENDORS ARE DESIGNED TO ENSURE SETTLED CITIZEN AS FACTOR BUT ALSO REGULATION. CLIENTS THAT GOES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OUR TARGETED INDUSTRIES. I WOULD BECAUSE TARGET 20 HERE. WE'RE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE RESPOND TO THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS REQUESTING JUST THAT THIS YEAR WE'RE INTEGRATED HIT 75 LAST YEAR WE HIT ONE PRETTY WANT POINT B OR NEXT YEAR. THE AVERAGE WEB SITE PAGE VIEWS PER MONTH IS IMPORTANT TO TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE NEVER TECHNOLOGY THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. ACTUALLY GOING PAY 800. IF YOU USE THIS YEAR. THE GOAL OF LEARNING USE NEXT YEAR. THE BUILDING AND NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION THAT'S RESOURCES IN WITH THE WITH A FEW NEW DIVISIONS THAT HAS BEEN CREATED BY THE CITY MAKING SURE COMPLETE THE TREE CANOPY STUDY IS GOING TO BE DIRECTOR GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT OUR SURE VISION AS WE GO FORWARD AS YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S THE BIG TOPIC AS WELL. WE LOOK AT THE FISCAL YEAR, 25 RECOMMENDED BUDGET YOU NOTICE ON TRANSFER 40. $40,000 CAPITAL OF $868,000 FOR OPERATING EXPENSES. A 3.4 MILLION DOLLARS AND PERSONNEL OF 9.4 MILLION DOLLARS AS WELL. BUT PROPOSALS THAT WERE INCLUDED ARE HIGHLIGHTED BY THE ACTIVITY 6. CITY CENTER 6 MASTER PLAN OF $200,000 AS WELL AS A NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION. POLICE OFFICER PHONE BELIEVE THAT POINT KNOW KEEPING THAT WENT THE OTHER ONE GOING INSPECT OR WORSE WHEN THAT WE CODE ENFORCEMENT. EQUIPMENT BASEMAN OUR NORTH ON $55,000. GO TO FUND HAD A FEW PROPOSALS THAT WERE INCLUDED INCLUDING THE CHIEF INSPECTOR POSITION DIFFERENT POSITIONS IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES POSITION AS WELL. ITEMS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN OUR. PROPOSALS OR I DO, BUT IT IS A QUESTION. WE'RE IN PLANNING AND ZONING GO IMPACT SAYS THAT IS ALSO PART OF WHAT YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE REMOVE GOT HERE AND PUT THAT INTO THIS YEAR AS PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER TO YOU BUT TO END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. FOR THE DEBT ALREADY SITUATION FOR BETTER UNDERSTANDING DO IT YOURSELF, BUT THE CITIZENS AS WELL AS HAVE ALL THAT IMPORTANT TOPIC. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CANNOT GET INCLUDED OF A VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS THE ARE NOR THE GENERAL FUND. CODE ENFORCEMENT. NOT INCLUDE PAULO, ELECTRONIC RECORDING. AS WELL. NOW WINTER OVER TO DIRECTOR WRAY SHE HAS SOME INFORMATION SHE WAS REPORT OUT TO GOING BEFORE YOU YOUR QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION REGARDING SOME OF THE PUNDITS UNDER HER PURVIEW. GOOD MORNING. >> THANK YOU, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTEREST IN SOME OF OUR FUNDS AND SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS AND I WANTED TO KIND OF EXPAND ON THAT ALSO WANT THANK THE COMMISSION SUPPORT DURING UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH OF NOT JUST THE CITY THIS DEPARTMENT AS WELL WITH THE CREATION OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION AND THE VERY VERY LEAST AND ABSORPTION OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VISION. IT'S A LOT TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND AND WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SOME OF THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT VERY NEW TO SERVICES AND WE'RE WE'RE GETTING OUR ARMS AROUND THAT BUDGET AND THAT THOSE PROGRAMS WITH A LOT OF CHANGES ANTICIPATED OVER THE NEXT YEAR NATURAL RESOURCES HAS NOW BEEN ON THE GROUND FOR 6 MONTHS THEY. WE'VE WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY IN-HOUSE HIRED STARTED DECEMBER AND THEY ARE. DOING A LOT OF WORK THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTRAGE THEY'VE SOME PROGRAMS AND THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY I BELIEVE JUST COMMUNICATED TO RECENTLY THE TREE CANOPY STUDY HAS BEEN DONE. WE ARE. BUILDING SOME PROGRAMS OFF THAT. ADDITIONALLY WE HAD A THE BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE CONTAINS A COUPLE OF PROJECTS. I CAN TAKE MONEY FOR CITYWIDE TREE PLANTING PLAN. THE PUBLIC WORKS AND ALSO CONTAINED A I BEFORE STATION PROJECT AT THE THE CAN CALL. WE HAD HAD A AND STILL DO OF SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WHEN THIS BUDGET DONE. WE WERE QUITE READY TO DO PROPOSAL SHEETS ON THEM WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION WEVE SENSE THAT AND SOME INFORMATION SOME OF IT AS RECENT AS YESTERDAY. THAT ALLOWS US TO EXPAND THAT AND I WANTED TO GO OVER SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ASKED THE COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION. THAT IS THE FUNDING FOR THESE 3 PROGRAMS WOULD COME OUT OF THAT REFUND. IN ADDITION TO WHAT HAS REQUESTED FOR BUDGETING FOR THIS YEAR. ONE OF THEM PLANTING FOR SHADE AROUND THE CITY'S PLAYGROUNDS. I DISCUSSED THIS WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND THEY ARE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS. THIS WOULD ENABLE US NOT JUST TO PLANT SMALL SAPLINGS BUT. TREES OF A CONSIDERABLE SIZE. THAT WOULD. PROVIDE SOME SOME AUTOMATIC SHADE AND GET THAT MUCH FASTER THE TREES THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE PLANTED. THESE ARE TREES THAT WOULD BE ANYWHERE FROM. 7 10 FEET CANOPY ALREADY. SO THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO TO GO AHEAD AND GET SOLD OUT THERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IDENTIFYING. AS MANY PLAYGROUNDS AS POSSIBLE AND BACK THE POTENTIALLY ALL OF THEM. AND PRIORITIZING THEM ACCORDING TO WHERE THE MESH. SUNDAY AT THIS WHICH ONES HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF SHOW. THE OTHER ONE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. IT DOING WHAT'S CALLED A MICRO FOREST ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AND I'VE TALKED ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. AND SHE THINKS THAT THE CITY PROBABLY HAS. SOME PROPERTY WE NEED ABOUT A QUARTER OF AN ACRE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. THAT'S THAT'S A POINT WHERE WE COULD DO MARKLE FORCE THAT WOULD WOULD IN TURN THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR. SCHOOL FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT COULD USE IT PROGRAMS EDUCATIONAL NATURAL RESOURCES COULD ALSO USE IT. BUT MICHAEL FORCE ARE BASICALLY VERY DENSELY PLANTED FORESTS AND GROW MUCH FASTER BECAUSE OF THE COMPETITION. THERE. REALLY INCREDIBLE PROGRAMS IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY LOOK AT MICHAEL FORCE AND WE WILL PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WELL. PROVIDE A LOT OF HABITAT AND SMALL AMOUNT OF SPACE. AND IT'S IT'S A REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE THAT AND USE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE ALSO. I'M LOOKING AT. THE TREE CANOPY STUDY THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY DONE. THERE ARE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAVE. VERY LOW PERCENTAGE OF TREE CANOPY MOST OF OUR CITY IS COVERED PRETTY WELL, BUT THERE ARE POCKETS AND THEY'RE VERY I'M A PARENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT ON AERIALS AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM AND THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THIS TREE STUDY. BUT SOME OF SOME OF THE AREA, ESPECIALLY IN THE OLDER PORTIONS OF PORT. OUR VERY SPARSE WHEN IT COMES TO TREATS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO USE TO BREAK THE CITY DOWN INSECT MINUTES PRIORITIZE THEM ACCORDING TO THE AREAS THAT HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT AND START WITH THOSE AREAS LOOKING AT CITY PROPERTY WHERE WE CAN PLANT TREES BUT ALSO A PROGRAM WHERE WE COULD PROVIDE WHILE TEACHERS OR THE TREES THEMSELVES TO. HOMEOWNERS TO PLANT TREES ON THEIR PROPERTY. THERE ARE A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THROUGHOUT THE STATE EVEN IN THE REGION WHERE MUNICIPAL COUNTERPARTS PROVIDE VOUCHERS OR THEY HAVE TREE GIVEAWAY PROGRAMS WHERE HOMEOWNERS CAN GET ONE OR 2 TREES TO PLANT OF THEIR PROPERTY. IT'S THERE'S VERY POPULAR PROGRAMS HOMEOWNERS DEFINITELY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ABOUT DOING MORE. THE OTHER POTENTIAL A PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT. A GRANT PROGRAM FOR. PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG 41 LANDSCAPING HAS EITHER ALL DIED OR THEIR LANDSCAPING THIS DONE DECADES AND DOESN'T. AND FOR HIM TO CURRENT LANDSCAPE. PROVISIONS AS FAR AS TREE CANOPY WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ABOUT PROVIDING A PROGRAM THAT WOULD ASSIST THEM WITH. BRINGING THE STANDARDS OF THEIR LANDSCAPING UP ALONG 41 TO PROVIDE A A BETTER DRIVE. IT'S THAT BUT ALSO PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SHADE ALONG OUR SIDEWALKS AND IN THE PERIPHERY OF THIS PARKING SO AND MORE MORE OR DOWN 41 AS WELL THAT FEATURE AND TRYING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE HEAT ISLAND THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE ALONG 41. WITH ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THE ONES THAT ALREADY IN THE BUDGET WITH WITH A CITYWIDE I THINK. THE OTHER ONE LET FORGET. YESTERDAY WE JUST GOT THE STUDY PUBLIC WORKS JUST THAT THE STUDY BACK FOR THE WHITE TREE PLANTING ALONGSIDE FOR CHAMBERLAIN AND AT THE CITY WELCOME SIGN. AND THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT IS DIVISION IS WORKING ON. THAT STUDY TO DETERMINE THE BEST REASON THE BEST LOCATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED ON THAT IN PRIORITIZING A SCHEDULE. WE THINK WE COULD HAVE A SCHEDULE COMPLETED WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. COULD BE READY FOR PLANTING SO WE WE THINK BASED ON WHAT WE GOT YESTERDAY WE THINK WE INCREASE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS IN ME. CITYWIDE TREE PLANTING WHY NOT HIM. AND IN TOTAL. WE THINK THESE PROGRAMS WOULD PROBABLY JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS. IF WE GET ALL UP. IT'S A LOT OF PROGRAMMING. WE'RE PLAYING CATCH-UP OVER. DECADES NO PROGRAMMING SO WE GO I WANT TO HIT THIS HARD BECAUSE I THINK IT WE ARE ARE THE PARTNER VISION THINK SPEAKS A LOT TO THE CITY'S COMMITMENT. FOR THESE PROGRAMS FOR TREE IN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. SO WE ARE WILLING TO TAKE ON THE WORK. A LOT OF THE TREE PLANTING IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE CONTRACTED OUT SO. AS MUCH AS US AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST LIKE GOING PLANTING TREES. THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY THEY COULD DO IT ALL SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT CONTRACTING KNEES SERVICES WE WOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT. CONTRACTING FOR IRRIGATION THIS ISN'T JUST WHAT REAL MONEY THAT YOU HOPE THAT THIS IS I'M ACTUALLY MAKING SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THESE TREES AND THAT THEY GET ESTABLISHED WITH REGULAR WATERING MAINTENANCE. AND I'M BEN ALSO THE COMMISSION IS AWARE WITH THE ABC WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT. ENSURING THAT OUR. TREE POLLEN IS INCLUSIVE OF THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT SAID I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT WITH CHAPTER 6 THAT NAME IS BEING CHANGED FROM THE TREE FUND TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FUND. PRIMARY GOAL OF THE FUND IS STILL TO PLANT TREES AND THAT'S VERY STRONG I THINK THROUGH THAT PROGRAMS AND THE STUDIES THAT WE ARE. PROPOSING AND WE HAVE WORKED ON. SO I DON'T WANT MINIMIZE. THE TREE PLANTING. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHEN WE PLANT TREES, WE ALSO THINK OF THE ECOSYSTEM AND THE HABITAT AS A WHOLE IT'S NOT JUST TREES THAT DEVELOPERS ARE TAKING OUT THAT TAKING OUT THE UNDERSTORY AND THE HABITAT THAT ALL OF OUR NATIVE SPECIES LIVE IN SO WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING BACK. NOT JUST TREES BUT THE POLLINATORS OF THINGS THAT ARE POLLINATORS NEED IN OUR OVER TORTOISES ARE SCRUB JAYS AND ALL OF A SPECIES NEED TO SURVIVE. HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU WILL ALL HAVE >> YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST CLUE HAHA THERE AS A MISSION MY INTENTION HIT MY **** EARLY AND YOU KNOW MY TIME TO THE MAYOR SUMMER ACTION OF. >> TREES. >> I THINK THEY CAN GO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. BUT OUR MAYOR GRACIOUSLY PUT START-STOP LAST IT COMES QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. AGAIN MY INTENTION TO FIRST IN LINE NEED TO WATCHING HER IT'S UP TO BEAT ME TO >> YEAH I THINK WE ALL HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY ABOUT. THIS WHOLE SUBJECT SO I MEAN. I YOU KNOW I WOULD DEFERRED. >> SO THE MAYOR I MEAN I HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY SO SHE DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME. SHE SPEAKS FOR HERSELF AS EACH OF US TO US COMMISSIONERS. BUT BY ALL MEANS MAYOR. >> BOY A RARITY THAT VICE YOU THINK OKAY, BUT NO WE WILL. THAT I DIDN'T PLAY AND WE ALL THAT WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS, BUT AS PEOPLE KNOW OR MAYBE SHOULD THIS IS A NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART AND I. CHAMPION FOR FOR YEARS BEFORE IT WAS OR PEOPLE GOT ON BOARD GOING BACK AT LEAST 20 SOMETHING YEARS WHEN ATTEMPTED TO PUT A TREE REFERENDUM BUDGET PUT A TREE REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT AND IT DIDN'T FOR MINIMUM TREE PROTECTION STANDARDS BUT WE FINALLY GOT A TREE ORDINANCE BECAUSE I WAS SERVED A NO LESSONS 3 COMMITTEES THAT MADE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TRAINING. THAT THAT STARTED OUR MITIGATION DIDN'T START 30 INCHES AND I JUST WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT AT ONE TIME WHEN THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHY THERE WAS SO MUCH THEY'RE CUTTING AND I SAID BECAUSE IT WAS COST EFFECTIVE TO CLEAR CUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR ANYTHING UNTIL THAT TREE WAS 30 INCHES IN DIAMETER. WHICH IS LIKE A POSTER BOARD OF DIAGRAM. >> GOT MY YES, RIGHT AND ALSO YOU MIGHT HAVE A COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL THAT I HAD LENT TO YOU THAT SHE I HAD SOMEONE LOWS WAS CLEARED OUT THERE WERE 5,000 TREES REMOVED FROM SITE MOST OF THEM HINES AND I THINK THE MITIGATION FEE WAS $1200 SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE VERY FEW HERITAGE TREES ON THAT SIDE. SO WE'VE COME A LONG WAIT. >> I'M REALLY PLEASED HEAR ABOUT THESE THESE PLANS AND I'M I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM. >> COME TO FACT THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY FACT THE MAIN REASON WHY AND I REFER TO THE NORTH SOUTH 3RD STREET TREE PROGRAM THAT WAS DONE BETWEEN 2008 2009 BETWEEN THE CITY AND. PEOPLE FOR GROUPS THAT AT THAT I FOUND IT WAS BECAUSE WE KEPT ASKING THE CITY WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO START PLANTING SOME TREES THAT TREE FUND MONEY AND THAT'S WHY THAT PROJECT CAME TO FRUITION. THIS IS TOO GET SOME TRAINS ON ON A STREET LIKE YOU SAID FOR SHADE THEY WERE PLANTED JUST IN THE NORTH-SOUTH FOR IT. AREA THE SOUTH SOUTH FOR TREES WERE DIFFERENT PROJECT THAT'S WHEN I DON'T THINK IT'S WE HAVE IT ANYMORE, BUT THAT'S WHEN COUNTY WAS GETTING SARASOTA COUNTY TO PLANT TREES ON ARTERIAL ROADS. AND THAT'S WHEN THE TREES IN THE SOUTH AREA WERE PLANTED OAK TREES AND SOME OTHER TREES THAT DIDN'T DO VERY WELL, BUT ANYWAY THAT'S ANOTHER ANOTHER STORY, HOWEVER. GLAD TO SAY THAT IT'S COMING AT YOU YOU MENTION SHADE YEAH SETS REALLY PRIMARY PURPOSE HAVING SO TREE FUND. THAT REFUND IS GENERATED BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING DOWN TREES SO I I WANT TO SEE THAT REMAIN THE MAIN FOCUS AS YOU SET TO PLANT TREES BACK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE ANY OF THIS MONEY TO EVEN TALK ABOUT AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD PEOPLE COMING FORWARD IN THE WANTED TO SEE EVERYTHING FROM YES POLLINATOR GARDENS AND THE STATIONS AND THAT'S THAT'S WONDERFUL. BUT IT HAS TO AT LEAST GO BACK TO LET'S START WITH THE BASICS FIRST WHICH IS GETTING TREES BACK IN THE GROUND BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE SAY AND I'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THAT IT'S NOT. ALL ABOUT THE TREES AND I SAID WELL IT REALLY IS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TAKING THE TREES DOWN NOTHING ELSE STAYING EITHER GIVEN REMOVING EVERYTHING THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT TAKING THE TREES DOWN AND LEAVING ALL THAT THE NATURAL VEGETATION EVERYTHING IS COMING DOWN, BUT THE TREES ARE WHAT YOU USED TO GENERATE THE SAME COMMENT THIS REVENUE SO THAT WE CAN START STORE THINGS. I LOVE THESE SOME OF THESE IDEAS THAT YOU YOU PUT OUT THERE, BUT THE MICRA FOREST. YES, A COUPLE DIFFERENT NAMES THROUGHOUT THAT THE DECADES, YOU KNOW THEY USED TO CALL AND FOR US THAT'S WHAT I THINK DENNIS ALSO THERE THAT THE URBAN FOREST. AND AGAIN I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE INITIAL STAGES OF THAT GETTING THAT I'M HELPING OUT WITH AND THAT AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT. I DO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONSERVATION OFFICER ZONING. OFFICERS I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE FOR HOMEOWNERS AND OF THE CITY OF SARASOTA AND CITY VENICE BOTH AD POSTED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY AS TO WHERE THE TREES CAN BE PLANTED, BUT WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME ABOUT THAT AS WELL. I LOVE THE IDEA OF SHADE AND AND OUR PLAYGROUNDS AND ESPECIALLY YOU TALKED ABOUT ENDING THE TREES ACTUALLY PROVIDE SHADE IT. THAT THE MAXIMUM VALUE AND I KNOW THAT SHOULD BE A NO-BRAINER BUT IT'S AMAZING HOW PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT WHERE WHAT IS THE COME UP WHEN AND WHERE DO YOU WANT THE SHADE TO BE BECAUSE WHEN THE CITY HAD THEIR 50TH ANNIVERSARY I WAS INVOLVED IN THAT PROJECT TO PLANT 50 TREES THROUGHOUT THE PORT IN THE PLAYGROUND AND IT WAS AMAZING HOW MANY OF THOSE SCHOOL PLAYGROUND HAD TREES AND IT AND THEY WERE NOT WHERE THE KIDS WERE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE SHAPED DURING THE DAY. SO THAT IS WHEN FIRST STARTED TO REALIZE THAT THERE'S REALLY NEVER A PLAN ABOUT WHERE THE PANTRY SOME REALLY HAPPENED AT TO HEAR THAT YOU DO HAVE A PLAN AND YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE 10 TO 2. HAVE THE MAXIMUM VALUE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE 41. BECAUSE THERE IS NO SHADE ALONG 41. AT ALL YOU CAN GO FROM NORTH PORT INTO ALL THE WAY INTO VENICE UM AND I LEARNED THIS WHEN I WAS I DID AT THE RIDE ACROSS IOWA IN 2007. I THINK IT WAS TO TRAIN FOR THAT I WOULD LIKE FROM PORT AND TO VENICE INTO SARASOTA SO I KNOW WHERE THE SHADE WAS AND THERE WASN'T ANY SHAPE. IT WAS YOU ARE TOTALLY OUT IN THE OPEN AND STILL IS UNFORTUNATELY TODAY ASKING PEOPLE WALKING ON THAT SIDEWALK AND I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THEM. I LIKE TO HEAR HOW THAT'S GOING TO GO AND THAT MORE OF THAT MONEY GOES FOR TREES AS OPPOSED TO JUST LANDSCAPING I DON'T WANT TO DISMISS THE VALUE SHRUBS BUT AGAIN IF WE WANT WE SHOULD HAVE SHADE FROM TREES. YOU MENTIONED PUBLIC WORKS AT WITH YOU SAID SALFORD SOUTH SOUTHWARD SOUTH OKAY, IT IS IT IS DOWN IN THE NEWS THAT SUMPTER TO SAY SOME IT'S WELCOME SIGN. >> HIS BOOK TO DO SOME LATERAL PLAN THEIR OWN SOME TREE PLANTED RIGHT OKAY, OKAY AGAIN THESE ARE THESE ARE GREAT AND COULD YOU. WHO WOULD. >> IT WOULD THAT BE ONE OF OUR ARBORISTS THAT YOU WOULD PULL AN ARBORIST FROM DOING THE DEVELOPMENT. >> ALL OF OUR WE HAVE AN URBAN FOREST ARE NOW ROUNDS SO THEY IT WOULD BE WHOPPER TO THAT SO IT WOULDN'T JUST PULLING ONE PERCENT OFF NORMAL DUTIES. THEY WILL ALL WORK ON IT. SO IT'S IT WILL JUST BE A REORGANIZATION OF OF THERE. THEY ONLY PRIORITY ACTIVITIES. BUT WE WILL NOT BE NEGLECTING OUR OTHER. ISSUES BECAUSE THEY DO DEAL WITH THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT. ONE OF THE NICE THINGS THAT ARE NOW IS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THE GOPHER TORTOISE CHECKS THAT SOMETHING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST NEWS SITE THAT REORGANIZATION THAT WE HAVE HOME HAD OF SOME OF THOSE DUTIES THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO ALL AT ONE TIME. PROBLEMS WHEN YOU TRY TO DO EVERYTHING YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING WELL. BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST STRETCHED TOO THIN. THANKFULLY THE WAY THAT WE HAVE IT STRUCTURED NOW. WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE DOING THE RIGHT JOBS AND WITH THE RIGHT EXPERIENCE SO WE HAVE GOOD. STAFF WITH GREAT KNOWLEDGE THEIR SPECIALTIES. AND SO THEY THE ARBORISTS ARE NOW. ABLE TO SPEND I'M LOOKING AT THESE TYPES OF FILMS THAT ACTUALLY DEAL WITH WE'RE WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT SO IT WOULDN'T BE JUST TAKING ONE ARBOR STOP OUR URBAN FOREST ARE THE ON THE STREET PLANTING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER WOULD HANDLE ALL PROCESS AND THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT THE CARAVAN. >> TIME A QUESTION THAT THERE PART INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS BUT GOING OUT TO INSPECT OR IS THAT JUST THE ARBORIST THE DO THAT SO HE DOES DO SOME OF THAT, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THE OFFICE TOO BUT HE SUPERVISES THEM. >> THE REALLY ALL HANDLES A LOT OF THEM ARE COMPLICATED THINGS. AND ADVISES THEM ALL AND. STICKY ISSUES. AND THEN HE HE DOES A LOT OF WORK ON LOOKING AT LIKE HE'S HE'S GOING TO REVIEWING THE PLAN THAT CAME IN YESTERDAY FOR THE CITY. >> THEY PLAN TO PLAN ON SOUTH AND THAT THE HE WOULD BE MORE DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH WHAT THOSE TREE PLANTING PROPSAL AND THAT'S THAT'S MISTER PAPERS AND WHY YES EVEN WORKED SOUNDING NORTH-SOUTH FAMILIAR WITH YES, YES, WHICH GOOD TO KNOW SO FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT TONY HAS GOOD HISTORY HERE WITH OF THE QUESTIONS CAME TO MY AIR ABOUT. SO HE WOULD BE DOING THAT TIMELINE WHAT THESE REALLY AMBITIOUS I LOVE THE IDEA. WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE FOR THINGS SUCH AS THE VOUCHER PROGRAM WHEN DOES THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT DOES HAVE TO GO THROUGH SO THAT THAT ONE WOULD BE A LITTLE EASIER TO SET UP ACTUALLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY CREATING WE WHERE WE'RE NOT INVENTING THE LOT OF PROGRAMS ARE OUT THERE BASICALLY WE. >> WE'LL LOOK AND SEE WHAT. YOU KNOW IS WORKING AND WILL REPLICATE SOMETHING SO. THAT ONE CAN BE SET UP FAIRLY SIMPLY A MATTER OF GETTING THE FUNDING IN PLACE AND GETTING OUR OUR PURCHASE ORDERS OUT FOR OFFENDERS SO THAT ONE SHOULDN'T BE EACH THAT ONE SHOULD FAIRLY EASY. I'M WITH THE MORE COMPLICATED ONES ARE GOING TO BE. PLANTING AROUND THE PARKS THEIR CONTRACTS THAT HAVE THEIR BACKS WITH VENDORS. SO WE WILL NEED TO GO THROUGH PROCESS GET HAS A NEW VENDOR OUT FOR THIS BUT. PUBLIC THEY GOT THEIR CONTRACTS EXISTING FOR CITYWIDE THE PLANTINGS SO THAT SHOULD OF. LEFT. WE DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE. WE'RE GOING TO BE USING CONTRACTORS FOR THAT CITYWIDE PROGRAM SO YOU KNOW WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING CONTRACTS TO SEE IF THEY CAN ABSORB THERE. THOUGHT WE AS I SAID WE WOULD ALSO INCLUDE IN THE IRRIGATION SO IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE THE PLANTING FOR CONTRACTORS, IT'S GOING TO BE THE ONGOING EDUCATION. >> SOME OF THE STREET TREES WOULD HAVE YOUR NATION TO YES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE. >> GET THEM, YOU KNOW WHERE THEY CAN SUSTAIN THEMSELVES ITS ONLINE FAULT, IF THEY NEED IRRIGATION TO THE START-UP WE DO WANT PLANT TREES WITH AND HOPE THEY >> YES BECAUSE I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE WHEN THEY WANT TO PLANT REASON PEOPLE ARE VERY EXCITED. I SAID THAT'S THE EASY SORRY, IT'S THE FOLLOW-UP THAT YOU HAVE TO A PLAN FOR A SPECIAL WE HAD THAT LONG DRY. AND I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE THAT I WAS DRAGGING 5 GALLON. AND IT'S A WATER TO OUR BIG UP THE TREE WALK THAT'S 41, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ON THE GROUND FOR 20 YEARS, THEY WERE SUFFERING SO I SAID IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRAIN AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY THAT'S THE EASY PART THAT EVERYBODY WALKS AWAY AND THEN LIKE OK HE'S GOING FOLLOW THROUGH AND MAKE SURE IT'S GETTING WATERED AND KEEP UP WITH THAT SCHEDULE SO. ♪ >> I AM I'M VERY ENCOURAGED. >> WITH WHAT YOU YOU SAID, AND I'M HOPING I LOVE I. >> LOOKING FORWARD HEARING WHAT MY FELLOW ♪ >> COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS AND ALSO THOSE EITHER. MAYBE OFFICER POSITIONS THAT ARE IN I WILL YIELD AND A VICE BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU MADAM TREE LADY, AS I WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN MIND THAT SOME OF THE STUFF AND AND MY TAKE IS ONE. I REALLY 2. >> I AM SO SUPPORTIVE OF THE NATURAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT I AM DELIGHTED TO SEE THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS WITH REGARD TO THIS IT WAS SOMETHING THAT COMING INTO OFFICE AS A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL CONSCIOUS. HAS TO BE A CORNERSTONE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AND I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON IT. THE SAME TIME. THERE'S A BUNCH OF AMBITIOUS PROJECTS HERE I DON'T LIKE THE MAYOR DO NOT AGREE THAT TREES ARE THE END ALL AND BE ALL. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PLAN. AND THERE ARE MANY AREAS I AGREE WHERE WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE CANOPY. AND I'M GLAD TO SEE IT I ALSO LOOKED AT THE WITH STUFF. TREE FUND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF COURT BY BOARD AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THAT LIST OBVIOUSLY THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR OTHER TYPES PLANTINGS. AND FLOWERS THAT CAN BE DONE. THE POLLINATING STATIONS THAT NEED TO GO IN I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE OF A BALANCE. I'M NOT A BIG ADVOCATE OF VOUCHERS FOR PEOPLE TO PLANT TREES ON THEIR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTIES I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY TO PLANT TREES ON THEIR OWN PROPERTIES, NOT USE CITY REVENUES TO DO SO THERE ARE PLENTY OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AND PARKS WHERE WE CAN PLANT TREES THAT WOULD BENEFIT EVERYBODY SO I'M NOT A SUPPORTER THAT AT ALL AND I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE IN IT. >> THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. AS FAR I BELIEVE PUBLIC WORKS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT ABOUT A $100,000. TREE PLANTINGS ALL RIGHT START. THE CANINE CLUB. WHAT'S THIS PROPERTY OWNS THIS CANINE IS JUST PART OF THE JOCKEY CLUB THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY. >> SO WHO MAINTAINS THE CITY PUBLIC OWES IT RIGHT NOW. >> AND THEY WOULD GO A LOT TO STOP MOWING SO I'M ONE THE THE CATALYST FOR THAT ROLE WAS. LOOKING AT PROPERTIES ARE IN THAT AREA AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TREE COVER IN THAT AREA SO THERE'S THERE'S DEFINITELY IN NEED. THE CANOPY. BARBA REPORTS FOR US ON THAT PROPERTY AND HABITAT REALLY POOR QUALITY. SO LOOKING AT IT AS A. ALMOST SET. NOT THAT NOT REALLY A TEST CASE BUT INTRODUCTION FOR PEOPLE ON HOW AREAS CAN BE REALLY FOR SAID. >> THE CITY DOESN'T WANT THAT'S ONLY TO ANYMORE BUT IF YOU JUST LET IT GO TO WE. THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP THE ENVIRONMENT. >> WE WANT TO ROLL SO IF WE COULD DO SO WILDFLOWER FIELDS SO A LOT LESS HIGH MAINTENANCE RIGHT. >> SO IDEA BEHIND THIS REFORESTATION IS NOT TO STREETS. IT'S ALSO THE UNDERSTORY PLANTINGS AND WITH AN EYE TOWARDS. UNDERSTORY PLANTINGS THAT FOR TORTOISE HABITAT. THOSE THOSE TYPES OF FOOD SOURCES TORTOISE IS LIKE ALSO THE BIRD SPECIES THAT ARE IN THE AREA AND THAT'S YOUR STORY TREES BUSH'S APPROPRIATE SO IT'S NOT IT THAT PAIN AND 12 OF IS IT WE PLAYED OLD ENVIRONMENTAL WANTING THE. >> ONE OTHER. >> CONSPICUOUSLY ABSENT FROM ANY CONVERSATION SO FAR AND SEE STATION AND THE STREET FUND DOLLARS TO ACQUIRE LAND FOR CONSERVATION PURPOSES AND WHAT TO ME THAT IS WHERE A HUGE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS COULD GO THERE OR ARE MENTALLY SENSIBLE FOR THE FROM OUR CITIZENS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND THE LAND IS PRECIOUS WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND LORD KNOWS I WANT TO ABOUT OK I RECOGNIZE AS MUCH AS ANYBODY IN THIS CITY. NEED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT THERE ARE PROPERTIES SO GOOD EXAMPLE, IT'S A CONVERSATION WE HAD ALL NOT THAT LONG AGO REGARD TO SPRING A BIT. OKAY, THEN THERE'S MYAKKA HACHI THE COUNTY TO ACQUIRE SOME OF THESE LANDS WERE HOPING THEY WILL. BUT WE NEED AN AGGRESSIVE PROGRAM AND THAT LEADS ME BACK TO THE BUDGET. IF I LOOK AT THAT ROUGHLY 69%. OF THE 2 MILLION DOLLARS. THOSE TO PAY WHAT SALARIES AND WAGES WHICH WE WILL MY CONCERN IS THAT. WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE BETWEEN OPERATING EXPENSES FOR THIS DIVISION AND ITS SALARY WAGES ITS BENEFITS. ITS EXPENSES. I MEAN ALMOST 2 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. THERE'S NOT ALL THAT MUCH LEFT OVER TO ME LIKE IS THERE A WAY I MEAN I HAVE NO PROBLEM SPENDING THOSE DOLLARS BUT BUT. WHERE'S THE TRANSITION TO MORE OF A BALANCE WHERE HALF THE TREE FUND MONEY A YEAR IS GOING TO DO ALL THESE PROJECTS 100,000 HERE 20,000 THEIR 50,000 THERE ISN'T GOING DO IT IN MY BOOK AND IT WASN'T WHAT ORIGINAL INTENTION NOT GOING TO BUY A LOT OF LAND WHICH IS SOMETHING REALLY REALLY ADVOCATE FOR. >> SO PACKED IN THERE WITH THE SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE INTENT AND WHEN WE. WHAT WITH THE COMMISSION ABOUT ESTABLISHING THIS DIVISION. WE STAY THE INTENT IS NOT TO FOREVER. PHONE. THE SALARIES. FROM THE TREE FUND. IT IS TO TRANSITION THEM TO THE GENERAL THAT. WE WE STATED THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE AND IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN AT THE VERY BEGINNING SO IT WOULD BE A GRADUAL PROCESS. NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION A 6 MONTH OLD AT THIS POINT SO. THERE'S THERE WAS THAT THERE WE HAD PLANS OF DOING THAT THE FIRST YEAR TRANSITION YOU GENERAL FUND. WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE DOING IS EACH YEAR PROBABLY TAKING A POSITION OUT. AND TRANSITIONING IT TO THE GENERAL FUND. THAT IS A GRADUAL PROCESS. SO THAT OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS WE WOULD GET EVENTUALLY. PERHAPS NOT ALL OF THEM. I COMMISSION MAY STILL WANT TO FUND FOR INSTANCE, THE ARBORISTS. THEY THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE OUT THERE. DEALING WITH THOSE PERMITS THAT ARE DIRECT CONTRIBUTOR TO OUR AND FOR THIS. THIS FUND. BUT THAT'S THAT'S ENTIRELY A COMMISSION DECISION THAT OUR INTENT WOULD BE TO EACH YEAR. GRADUALLY ALL AS WE GO FORWARD GRADUALLY TAKE. >> THESE POSITIONS OFF I WOULD URGE US TO FOR REST ONLY BECAUSE IT'S EACH YEAR PASSES I QUESTION WHETHER THE REVENUE SOURCES GOING INTO THE TREE FUND WELL MAINTAINED AT 18 SELL AND SO IF IT'S A SERIOUS DOWNTURN. I MEAN I CAN ENVISION IN ENVIRONMENT AND ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT WHERE WRAPS DEVELOPMENT GROWTH TOO SLOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE SITTING WITH THE 2 MILLION DOLLAR PLUS BUDGET FOR AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF PART OF THE GENERAL FUND I THINK THE CITY'S TAXPAYERS OUGHT TO PAY FOR. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT INTEGRAL PART OF OUR SO I'M NOT GAY. BUT I THINK THAT THE IRON IS HOT. WHILE THESE DOLLARS ARE COMING IN ORIGINAL INTENT FOR THESE DOLLARS TO BE SPENT PLANTINGS AND I APPRECIATE THE SLOW GRADUAL TRANSITION OF WHAT I SUPPORTED. VOTED FOR BY GOD I LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF STUFF GET DONE AND I RELEASED. THINK WE NEED TO START ACQUIRING CONSERVATION. CRITICAL SENSITIVE LAND. THAT SHOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED AND BELIEVE ME THERE AND THAT SHOULD A GOOD EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW ASK 2913 THE EXIT TO THE SET OF 6 MASTER PLAN. REALISTICALLY WHEN HIS WATER AND WITH THAT ACTIVITY CENTER SO SHOULD WE SPEND $200,000 THIS YEAR ON THAT STUDY I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS PART OF 2 MILLION WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR FUNDS. YOU KNOW, AND AND WHAT THAT COME OUT. BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S $200,000 RIGHT THERE. THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED AND PERHAPS USED IT IN IN A IN A BETTER MEANS OR TO HELP SUPPORT THIS. NATURAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT AND AND FREE UP MORE EVEN TO SOME OF THE CONSERVATION STUFF WORK WHY EARLY AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE STRAIGHT HERE BECAUSE TO ME THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT PLAYING TREES. THIS IS A SHOOT OPPORTUNITY WITH OUR NATURAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE GOING IN A LOT OF DIRECTIONS WITH THIS DEPARTMENT EVERYTHING FROM. POCONOS ISN'T A MOSQUITO CONTROL STUFF TO YOU NAME IT AND LIKE I HATE TO SEE US JUST BURN THROUGH A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR WITHOUT HAVING SOME REAL PRIORITIZATION ON THIS I MEAN THIS IS KIND OF LIKE. CANDY WOW WE'VE GOT A NATURAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT AND YET OUR CITIZENS AND OUR CITY OF HAS SOME PRETTY FOCUSED HERE. ONE OF WHICH IS HIS BIKE SENSITIVE LAND I DON'T SEE IT IT'S A PRO. >> I'M REMINDED OF A VERY WISE MAN WHO SAID LET'S USE OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY BEFORE WE START USING OUR MONEY TO ACQUIRE. ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LANDS. I THINK THAT THAT WAS YOU. >> SO I YOU MADE. SO THAT WAS SO I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITY. AS AFTER THE I MEAN FOLKS HAVE HIT THE GROUND. LIKE YOU SAID THEY HAD A LOT OF HER SUBJECTS. I THINK AS YOU SEE THAT THE VISION PROGRESS. >> TEMPERATURE. >> I THINK YOU'LL SEE A ROBUST AND FLESHED OUT OF PLANS COME BACK THAT A GREAT DEAL OF AND I APPRECIATE YOU REMINDING BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WAS PERSON SAID THAT ME THE ONLY PERSON TO BUT AT THE SAME TIME. >> LIKE NATURE CONSERVATORY. AND THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW THEIR PARTNERS IN THIS WE'LL ALL SENSITIVE PLANTS AND WE SHOULD BE DOING OUR PART AS WELL AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE. >> I GOT TO ADD TO THAT ARE STAFF IS LOOKING ALREADY AT LAND THAT WE COULD A CHOIR. THEIR FIRST BALL IS GOING TO BE TO GO TO THE CITY AND SAY CAN WE USE YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL MONEY TO THAT WILLIAMS MONEY TOO. >> TO ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY. SO THAT IS THAT IS GOING TO BE THE AVENUE TO TRY TO ACQUIRE THOSE LANDS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT PARCELS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR CONSERVATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE'VE WHAT THAT IS I'M NOT JUST PROPERTIES LIKE SPRING HAVEN. BUT AS MORE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS START TO BUILD OUT BEING ABLE TO ACQUIRE. PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL VALUE WITH IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE VETTED GREEN SPACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT SPURS ARE. AND WE WOULD ENSURE THAT IT STAYS THAT WAY. BUT NOT JUST ITS FIRST THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY GO IN AND REMOVE THE INVASIVES OUT OF MAKE SURE THAT IT IS GOOD HABITAT BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DIMINISHED IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD UP AS WE GO ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS THAT WERE LOOKING UP. POTENTIAL HARM. WHILE THE CITY. BUT OUR INTENT FOR THAT IF THE. IF THE COUNTY CANNOT PAY FOR THAT AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT USING. AND CITY FUNDS FOR THAT FOR EACH OF THOSE PROPERTIES WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION COURSE THE COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE ANY ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY AND WE WOULD DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT THAT TIME THE ACQUISITION PROPERTY. SO THAT WOULD BE IF WE DO THAT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. >> I GOT SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO JUST KEEP BOARD AND ON THE TREE FUND OR BECAUSE I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT DISCIPLINE. THE SECOND ROUND WHERE >> YOU KNOW A I WANT TALK ABOUT OF THE ASK SIRI OUT AS WE WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET OF A LOT OF BUDGET FOR THIS PART >> YOU KNOW, I WANT EVERYBODY OUT YOU KNOW. >> AND WE'RE HAPPY YOU'RE RIGHT. I LIKE TO HEAR FIRST AT-BAT BUT LETS PRESENTED BY ABOUT PRIDE AND THEN WE CAN GO INTO THE. YES, THE ONE JUST THANK A LOT AND THIS VISION AND I HAVE A LOT COMING UP. >> OR. WORKS YOU MAY WANT OKAY, YOU YEAH, YOU KNOW WE HAVE AWFUL LOT DIVISION THAT THE. I'M NOT NOW. I COMMISSIONER OUT. THANK YOU I AGREE. >> THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT PLANTING TREES. WE WITH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS HEART. THE ENVIRONMENT. UNDER STORY. ALL THE ANIMALS CRITTERS. WILDLIFE PLAN TEENS EVERYTHING THAT IS A COMPANY WHEN THEY GO TO CLEAR TREES THEY CLEAR THE LAND. THEY SCOUT THE LAND THAT'S THERE'S NO OTHER EXPLANATION, THE SCALP, THE LENGHT BRING IN ADDITIONAL FEEL AND DO THEIR DEVELOPMENT. SO TO PLANT TREES, YES, IT IS IMPORTANT, I'M NOT DIMINISHING THAT WE HAVE GOT TO FIGURE A WAY TO TO REPLANT TO THE UNDER STORY. THE REFORESTATION THE CANINE CLUB. I'M NOT SEEING EXACTLY WHERE IN THE CANINE CLUB THAT THIS IS IS IT A LAND OUTSIDE OF THE CANINE CLUB OR IS IT IN NO IT'S IT'S BEHIND THE CANINE CLUB BETWEEN THE CANNON CLUB AND THE RESIDENTS. THAT ARE ACROSS FROM IT THERE'S THAT AREA FOR THE CANINE CLUB IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO THINK WHERE WE WOULD HAVE LARGE ENOUGH LAND IN THE IT'S ALSO ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CANNOT CLOSE THE. DOCTOR SO WHEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REFORESTATION AND WE'RE TRYING TO KILL 2 BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. WE WANT TO REDEVELOP HABITAT IN THE ENVIRONMENT, GREAT LOVE IT. >> BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S CUTTING DOWN THE COSTS FOR ROAD DRAINAGE THAT I CANNOT HELP WONDER WHY WE SPEND EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND TIME MOWING BOTH SIDES OF WOOD AVENUE THAT JUST BLOWS MY MIND. WHY WE DO NOT JUST LET THAT NATURALLY RE GROW. >> AND AND. >> WE FORCED IT WHATEVER I. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THAT JUST BLOWS MY MIND THAT EMPTY SPACE IT SPACE. >> AND I CAN THINK OF A LOT OF BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH OUR RESOURCES THAT. >> ALL THE TIME. >> I THINK THIS IS A START AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO WITH PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT THEY DO AND THOSE AREAS THAT NOT NEEDED TO STORM DRAINAGE OR YOU KNOW. THAT'S ACCESS THAT TYPE OF THING LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN RE WHILE THE REWILDING WHILE IS THAT SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. >> BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU SIMPLY STOP MOWING AND DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET BASE. THEIR NEEDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MAY NOT BE MOST HIGH >> SUPPLANT AND THEY WILL TAKE OVER SO WE WANT TO DO IT IN A COORDINATED WAY SO THAT WE CAN REPLACE THAT GRASS WITH NATIVE SPECIES THAT ARE GOING TO ENHANCE ENVIRONMENT AND I KNOW THIS IS IN THE FUTURE BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE THAT. >> THIS REFORESTATION PILOT PROGRAM GREAT LOVE IT, LET'S EXPANDED IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL ISSUE FOCUS ON THOSE AREAS OF WOOD AVENUE AND THAT IS THE IDEA THE ALONG THE SAME LINES IS I HAVE SUGGESTED IN THE PAST. I'M USING THIS GAIN. BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT. AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLANT WILDFLOWERS AS A PILOT PROGRAM. I THINK I HAVE MENTIONED THIS NUMEROUS TIMES DURING BUDGET TIMES AT VARIOUS TIMES OF OTHER DISCUSSIONS. BUT IF WE DON'T START SOMEWHERE AND DO SOMETHING NOTHING'S GOING TO GET DONE. THANK YOU MAYOR FOR THAT PHRASE. THIS I UNDERSTAND ARE NOT. MOST CONDUCIVE TO PLANTING TREES ESPECIALLY ON BISCAYNE BUT THIS IS ALSO AN ENHANCEMENT IN BEAUTIFICATION IT'S ENHANCEMENT FOR THE BEES FOR POLLINATORS. AND ALSO IT JUST CUTS DOWN ON THE COSTS OR THE MOMENT. SO I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED IN THE FUTURE. HOPEFULLY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER ON THIS GAME. THE ENVIRONMENT, I LOVE THE IDEA OF CHANGING THE NAME OF THAT REFUND AND I THINK THIS HAS BEEN TOSSED AROUND FOR A WHILE. YOU DIDN'T CALL IT THE ENVIRONMENTAL FUN IS THAT ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. PROTECTION I KNEW I WAS MISSING OR THINK YOU. ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT CPI RIGHT NOW. I'M GOING TO THROW IT OUT I'M SURE YOU HEARD ME COSTS AND UP STORM UPSIDE DOWN INSIDE OUT AND BACKWARDS WHEN I SAW PAGE FOR 55 FOR SPRING HAVEN. I WAS O NEALE HAHA. >> WE GAVE DIRECTION BACK IN MARCH TO NOT DO ANYTHING SPRING HAVEN. WE GAVE DIRECTION PROBABLY LESS THAN 30 DAYS AGO, NOT TO DO ANYTHING WITH SPRING HAVEN. AND I MY BUDGET 10 DAYS AGO. AND THERE IT IS SPRING I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTING. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS EVEN MADE IT TO OUR DESKS. WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE ROAD AND DRAINAGE SAW THAT AND THEY DID NOT HAVE OPPORTUNITY PATIENTS SO ABOUT IDEAS FOR REALLOCATION ON THE ON THIS LIST, BUT. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENT PROTECTION. I JUST HAD TO THROW THAT OUT THERE NOW. PURCHASING OF LAND I UNDERSTAND AND I HAVE ALSO ALWAYS SAID HEY LET'S USE OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO PURCHASE LAND. SOMETIMES USING OTHER PEOPLE'S MAKES LAND PURCHASES. FALL BY THE WAYSIDE BECAUSE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ROSEN TIME IS MONEY MONEY IS TIME AND WE LOSE OUT. THERE IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PONCE DE LEON AND BISCAYNE THAT MIGHT BE UP FOR PURCHASE AND THAT IS ENVIRONMENTAL KIND OF SENSITIVE AREA I KNOW. PAINS ME BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PIECE PROPERTY AND IT'S A VERY LARGE PROPERTY. GO AHEAD DOES SOMETHING MUST HAVE CHANGED IN THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS BUT PROPERTY IS UNDER CONTRACT. IT IS UNDER CONTRACT AND THE YEAH, SO ALL SORRY TO HEAR THAT AND THIS IS WHERE MY POINT OF USING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY MAKES US LOSE RIGHT AND THAT'S WHY WE PROACTIVELY IDENTIFYING PROPERTIES THAT WE COULD CONSIDER FOR. >> PURCHASE A WITH WINE THAT WAS BASED ON. ARE IMPORTANCE CONTRIBUTION TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION THAT THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY DID GO UNDER CONTRACT. I WAS CONTACTED BY THE PURCHASER. SHARED THEIR INTENT OR THE PROPERTY. >> I HAVE SO MUCH THAT HAD HE TO TALK ABOUT ON THIS SUBJECT AND WITH ITS DEPARTMENT IT'S IT'S KIND OF HARD TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO. I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU ARE ONE TO IMPLEMENT. WHILE YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR PLAN TEEN PRIVATE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE A VERY LIGHT LIFT. THERE HAS TO BE A PROGRAM IN PLACE THAT HAS TO BE A POLICY IN PLACE THEN THAT REQUIRES THE COMMISSION WE ALSO HAVE TO IDENTIFY THAT. YES, THIS MEETS A PUBLIC PURPOSE, WHICH NOW INVOLVES THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS AND I GO BACK TO WE WERE IT WAS SUGGESTED TO USE PRIVATE. I'M SORRY TO USE PUBLIC FUNDS OUT OF THE TREE FUND TO PLANT A TREE FOR A FORMER COMMISSIONER ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. IT WAS NOT KNOW IT WAS A NO WAY NO SO WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE LEGALLY AND HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE BECAUSE LAST THING I WOULD WANT TO DO IS HAVE OUR FUND MONEY, I'M SORRY ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTION. FUND MONEY TO BE USED AND NOT USED APPROPRIATELY AND BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE ABUSED. BUT NOW THAT THE ONCE ONCE WE HAVEN'T DRAFTED WOULD COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR A POLICY. THIS HAS BEEN. >> SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN THAT BY MANY JURISDICTIONS SO WE LIKE I SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE THAT WE ALL SO WE WILL WE WOULD DIAL ONE THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. AND THAT AND THE PUBLIC PURPOSE HAS BEEN CLEARLY LAID OUT FOR THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD DO THAT BUT ABSOLUTELY IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR AUTHORIZATION IN A POLICY WHILE VICE MAYOR SAID NO HE'S NOT IN FAVOR OF IT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I'M NOT SHUTTING THE DOOR COMPLETELY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS >> BUT I I DO BELIEVE THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. I LOVE THE IDEA OF PLANTING TREES AND PLAYGROUNDS. PLAN TEEN IN THE OTHER CITY AREAS. AROUND THE BASKETBALL COURT. OH MY GOSH IF YOU EVER PLAYED BASKETBALL. OUT THERE IN IT AND THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT REMOVAL THERE'S NO. NO SHADE FEEL THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING THE SHADE AROUND IT TO MAKE YOU FEEL. >> PSYCHOLOGICALLY WHILE YOU'RE OUT RECREATING. THE GRANT PROGRAM ON 41. I THINK PROPERTY OF PUBLIC PROPERTY. >> AND WOULD PUBLIC PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY THE RIGHT OF WAY SOMETIMES. EXTEND FAR ENOUGH SO IT WOULD IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON WHICH AREAS. ANYTHING THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES FOR THEIR CITIES. SOME OF US IN THE DEPARTMENT HAVE WORKED WITH THESE PROGRAMS SO FAMILIAR WITH THEM. BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY A POLICY DECISION IT WOULD IT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER ♪ THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THE COMMISSION. WANTED TO PURSUE WOULD DO WHAT WE DID SIMPLY DIRECT THOSE. EFFORTS TO SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS US TO EXCELLENT. >> AS FAR AS PLANTING TREES ON SOUTHWARD SOUTH STAFFORD IN CHAMBERLAIN AND. I I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO PLANT SOME STREET TREATS. AND I'M GOING TO GOING TO TRY AND VERY DELICATE WITH US. NORTH-SOUTH ROAD WAS PLANTED IN 2008 IT SHOULD I KNOW THAT THEY WERE LITTLE MATCHSTICKS ABOUT THIS BIG MAYBE EVEN SMALL. AND THOSE KIND OF TREES TAKE A LONG TIME TO GROW. BUT THEY THEY'VE GONE FROM THIS ICE MATCHSTICK TO ABOUT THAT NEXT AND WHAT 15 YEARS. THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE STUNT. IT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GROW MUCH ESPECIALLY AFTER 15 YEARS OF MATURITY. SO I HOPE WHATEVER TREES ARE PLANTED AND ON THOSE STREET TREES. THAT THEY ACTUALLY GROW SAME WITH AND SOUTHWARD I MEAN ON SUMPTER WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE TREES FROM IAN I DON'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE IN HERE TOO. >> THAT IS ALL PART OF IT AND ONE OF THE THINGS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD DO ON THOSE STREET PLANTING TREES IS ARE SWEDEN TESTS ALL VARIOUS LOCATIONS TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF SOIL. THERE IS THERE WHAT THE NUTRIENTS ARE AND THAT LIKE TO BE A ADDED IN. IT ALSO TELLS US WHAT SPECIES WILL BE BETTER IN THOSE AREAS WILL DO WELL IN SOME AREAS THAT OTHER SPECIES WELL. SO WE WOULD TEST THE SOIL. DETERMINE WHAT TREES WOULD DO BEST IN THAT PARTICULAR SOIL THAT LOCATION. WE WOULD ALSO ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE WHATEVER ATTITUDE NUTRIENTS MIGHT NEED TO PROVIDED AND THEN THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE IS A BIG ISSUE. THE IRRIGATION AND AND MAINTENANCE OF THOSE TREES WOULD BE EITHER KERRY CARE OF ALL SO. ADDITIONALLY. WE KEEP GOING BACK TO RIGHT TREE RIGHT PLACE. WE WOULD. PART OF THE REASON FOR STUDY THAT WAS DONE WHERE THE BEST LOCATIONS WOULD FOR PLANTING TREES AND WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T BE PLANTED. IT'S BECAUSE IT LOOKED AT WHAT'S NOT JUST ON THE GROUND. BUT WHAT'S TO ENSURE THAT THERE THERE'S FOR ROOT SYSTEMS TOO. ALL RIGHT. AND THEY'RE NOT STUNTED UNDERGROUND. INCUMBENTS SO IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WILL GO INTO DETERMINING WHAT TREE SHOULD GO IN THE IN THE RIGHT PLACE. BUT THE IDEA IS WE PLANT, LARGER TREES TO BEGIN WITH. I'M GOING TO. THOSE TREES ARE SPECIES THEY HAVE THE RIGHT SOIL AND THEY HAVE THE LIGHT AFTER CARE. AND. >> ONE LAST COMMENT GENERAL AND THEN I'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS. I UNDERSTAND THAT REFUND GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. AND THAT THE COMMISSION HAS SAID THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. AND YOU AS STAFF RECOGNIZED THE GOAL. WE ARE TO THIS DEPARTMENT. AND THAT CONCERNS ME. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE ZONING HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THAT'S FREE NOT A $113,000 IN GENERAL FUND MONEY. IF I COULD JUST MAKE A SUGGESTION. WHY NOT HAVE IT FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THEY HAVE TO USE IT FOR CEOS TO MAKE SURE CERTAIN THINGS ARE DONE BEFORE CEOS ARE ISSUE. WHY NOT MOVE IT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. AND THAT WE THEN THIS THEY STILL HAVE THAT POSITION. STATE LAW. >> PROHIBITS US FROM USING BUILDING FUND MONEY FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO SONY. THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC STATE STATUTES. SO ALL OF OUR ACTIVITIES ZONING PERSONNEL ARE ALL FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND SO INSTEAD OF CALLING IT A ZONING INSPECTOR BECAUSE I I'M READING THE DESCRIPTION AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MORE TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN MET. >> WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND THE TREES AND WHATEVER OTHER STUFF NEEDS TO BE MET. >> AND SEE CO WHAT IT IS SPECIFICALLY. TO ENSURE THAT PROVISIONS OF THE ULDC LOT NOT THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. LORD THE THE FUNDING FOR THE FLORIDA FOR THE BUILDING CODE IS VERY VERY SPECIFIC UNDER ALL THE STATUTES THAT HA STUBBY TO ENFORCE THE FLORIDA BUILDING. >> TO THANK YOU FOR THAT THAT JUST THAT CLARITY A MAYOR I WILL YIELD BUT I DO HAVE PLENTY OF THANK YOU BECAUSE WE'LL THROUGH FIRST OF THE FIRST I GUESS. >> OFF THE COURT. >> TREATS. THEN WE GET INTO THE MEAT HERE YES, OR THIS IS CITY MANAGER JULIANA BELLIA I JUST WANTED TO MAKE KIND DATING WAY BACK TO ONE NICE TO DO GRANT FUNDING. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ONE OF THE THINGS DIRECTOR ROSE TRYING TO DO AND I COMMEND HER FOR IS TO SOME FORWARD THINKING IN SOME FORWARD PLANNING WITH RESPECT TO THE AREA ALONG US 41. THAT IS ONE OF THE IF NOT THE. NEIGHBORS HEARD RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF THE CITY YOU CAN SEE HOW IT IS REALLY STARTING TO DETERIORATE. THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A AND ONLY 65 YEARS OLD AND YOU START TO SEE THAT HAPPENING. THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE AREAS WE DON'T REALLY DO A LOT WITH AS FAR DOING THINGS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT IT'S IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK BUT I AGREE WITH HER IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TRY HELP BUT LOOK BETTER BECAUSE ONCE YOU START TO SEE AREAS OF YOUR CITY STARTED TO DETERIORATE SUCH AS THAT SO TO GET AHEAD OF SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT IT CAN BE DONE A LOT OF YOUR GRANTS. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD GRANTS AND NOT OTHERS WAY MORE THAN LICE DO THIS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE CONSIDER IT BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD THING TO MAKE THE CITY MORE AESTHETIC PLEASING AND HOW ALSO HELP THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT OUT. OKAY COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> THANK YOU MADAM ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS NOT AN AREA OF MY EXPERTISE. >> SO. >> I'M NOT GOING TO TRY WIN BY ITS STAFF ON WILDFLOWER SHOULD KINDS OF TREE SHOULD GO WHERE REALLY GOING TO HAND ON. YES FOR TEASE OF YOUR JUST COME UP WITH THAT PLAN AND I'M NOT GOING MY QUESTION THE AT THE END OF THE SPREADSHEET BUT I I'M NOT GOING TO TRY THE ADVISE ON HOW TO DO YOUR JOB NOT MY OF EXPERTISE BUT BUT I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. I DO LOVE THE IDEA OF THE PROGRAM THAT YOU MENTION TODAY BECAUSE LIKE MY. FELLOW COMMISSIONER, ALTHOUGH I SUPPORT THE TREE MONEY BROADLY I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW YOU DOLLARS ANSARI LIKE IT IF SO I'M I'M I'M VERY VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE NEWS THAT ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS. AND AS SOMEONE WHO LIVE ON THE >> AS SOMEONE US. >> PROBABLY TURNED UP SO MIGHT WANT TO TURN ME I'M USING >> TRYING >> I I KIND OF LOST MY TRAIN. I I LOVE THESE PROGRAMS. >> I'M. >> AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES ON THE EAST END OF TOWN WE SODA STOW THANK THE THE AREAS EAST OF TOLEDO BLADE AS THE WILD WILD WEST. WHEN I MOVED INTO MY HOUSE ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO. WE WERE MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE GENERAL AREA WAS HEAVILY TREAT IT NO LONGER OBSCENE. >> LOT LOT. CLEAR CAUGHT. >> AND I UNDERSTAND THE WALL FOR AS I HEAR FROM DEVELOPERS TO. BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT ADDRESSES THAT AND SO THE IDEA HERE OF POCKETS, YOU KNOW ADDRESSING POCKETS OF LOW CANOPY PERHAPS PURCHASING LAND INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO WE CAN HAVE NATURAL HABITAT. I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE EFFORTS BUT I WOULD BE REMISS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUYING LAND FOR CONSERVATION PURPOSES. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT 34% OF OUR LAND USE TODAY, ITS CONSERVATION PARKS AND OPEN LANDS AND 8% IS COMMERCIAL. I JUST EVERY TIME I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I'M GOING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE TALKED ALREADY YESTERDAY AND TODAY ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR ABILITY TO BORROW MONEY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF KNOW WHEN LOW INTEREST LOANS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER ESSENTIAL. PROJECTS. >> BUT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, ONE OF THE KEY REASONS WHY WE ARE STRUGGLING. >> SO MIGHTILY. >> WITH BALANCING OUR BUDGET AND FUNDING ESSENTIAL PROJECTS. >> IS OUR CALL COMMERCIAL FOOTPRINT TO HELP OFFLOAD HOMEOWNERS AND CONTINUE TO SAY THAT EVERY TIME I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SO I'M JUST A FEW SPECIFIC COMMENTS AND I DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE YOU'VE CERTAINLY STIMULATED A LOT A LOT OF THINKING ON MY PART. I SO THE VICE MAYOR'S REACTION TO A VOUCHER PROGRAM FOR. HOMEOWNERS AGAIN I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. I DO LISTEN AND OCCASIONALLY RETAIN AND I'VE KIND OF LEARNED AT THE MAYOR IS ME THAT PLANTING THE TREE IS THE EASY PART. IT'S THE MAINTENANCE SO I WOULD JUST THROW OUT AND A BRAINSTORMING THAT VEIN THAT PERHAPS RATHER THAN A VOUCHER PROGRAM. WE CONSIDER REBATE SO AND SOMEONE PLANTS, A TREE, THEY APPLY. THEY GET THE ADVICE OF THE ARBORISTS WHAT'S THE BEST READ BEST PLACES THAT CETERA AND THEN I DON'T 2 YEARS NOT GOING TO BE 20 YEARS. IF THAT TREE IS STILL ARRIVING AND A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THEY GET THEIR MONEY BACK. SO AT LEAST WE WE HAVE SOME TO TO JUST THROW MONEY AT IT. YOU KNOW I THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF MY STREET, 3 LITTLE STICK BRANCHES, YOU KNOW WHEN IN THE REQUIREMENT AT THE TIME AND NO SOONER HAD THE FAMILY MOVED IN ONE A VINYL FENCE WAS PUT 2 INCHES FROM THE TREE IS SO I'M WATCHING AND WAITING. BUT THOSE TREES TO COME DOWN BECAUSE THEY INTERFERE WITH THE FACTS. SO MAYBE A REBATE PROGRAM SOMETHING THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE INTELLIGENCE BUILT INTO IT THAT WOULD OPTIMIZE THAT A SUCCESS I'D BE A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH. I HAD ALSO MADE A NOTE AND GOING THROUGH THESE MATERIALS LEVERAGING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY THIS GETS BACK TO THE ACQUISITION OF. CONSERVATION LAND. YOU KNOW WE RECENTLY RECEIVED A GIFT OF PROPERTY ON OUT WATER FROM THE COUNTY. I LIVE RIGHT OFF WATER HAPPY TO HAVE PARK PLANS A BLOCK AWAY. WE HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL AT WATER PARK. SO THAT'S NOT WHERE I WOULD HAVE WANTED TO HAVE THE LAND. SO IF WE CAN JUST COORDINATE OUR EFFORTS. SO THINGS ARE HAPPENING WHERE THEY CAN REALLY BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY I JUST TOO MUCH OF IT THAT SUB OPTIMIZED AND AND THAT'S WHAT I REACT NEGATIVELY TO. I WALK HEART AND HER GROUP THEY STRUGGLE TO FUNDRAISE TO BUY WATTS I I KNOW STAFF HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT GROUP I OFTEN THINK WE COULD PULL SOME OF OUR MONEY TOGETHER WE MIGHT BE ABLE ACQUIRE THOSE PROPERTIES MORE QUICKLY. SO AGAIN TRYING TO PULL TOGETHER THE F OF MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS. I THINK WE WOULD GET A BETTER RESULT OVERALL FOR THE CITY. THE OTHER AND I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS BUT LATER, BUT VICE MAYOR THROUGH IT ON THE TABLE I I BEEN PUSHING MIGHTILY FOR A MASTER PLAN FOR ACTIVITY CENTER 6. YES, WAY OUT EAST. IT'S SHARE TELL YOU. MY CONCERN BACK WE ARE REALLY COUNTING. >> ON THAT AREA TO HELP US SOLVE OUR COMMERCIAL FOOTPRINT PROBLEM. >> NOT ONLY HAVE WE EXPANDED THE YORKSHIRE ACTIVITY CENTER CREATED A SECOND ACTIVITY CENTER OUT THERE. AND YEAH THE FEELING THAT IT'S A WILD WILD WEST OUT AND I REZONING EFFORTS WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF THIS ROOM AND ONE ON ONE FROM RESIDENTS WHO ARE BUILDING HOUSES IN THAT AREA. >> WE CAN NOT LAST THAT AREA GET AWAY FROM US. WE CANNOT DO IT. WE WILL JUST SCREW THIS CITY FOR 8 DECADES TO COME. IF WE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DON'T WANT IN CERTAIN PLACES HAPPEN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN. >> WE TALK ABOUT THAT INTERCHANGE BEING 15 MAYBE 20 YEARS AWAY. IF WE DO NOT THINK THAT PROBABLY WILL BE 15 OR 20 YEARS AWAY. BUT IF WE HAVE A PLAN. GIVES US SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THEN TALK TO BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS ABOUT WE COULD VERY WELL STIMULATE AND TRUST IN THE YORKSHIRE AREA. ACCELERATE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. AND ALL IT REALLY TAKES IS ONE BIG DEVELOPER WITH BIG PLANS IN A CERTAIN AREA AND. INTERCHANGES HAPPEN IT'S LIKE MAGIC HOMES NOW TO ME HOME CENTERS. ANDERSON, YOU KNOW ANY OF SO ASKED MASTER PLAN THAT AREA. WE CAN NOT LET IT GET AWAY FROM US. WE CANNOT AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF BUYING AND SELLING IN THAT AREA HOMES ARE GOING UP. LET'S NOT LET IT HAPPEN FOLKS, LET'S NOT LOSE IT. SO ALL FOR A SECOND ROUND ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU YES, ALSO ACTIVITY CENTER 6 AND AGAIN THAT BEING PROACTIVE AND RECOGNIZING YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE AND ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM AGAIN I APPRECIATE THAT YOU COME BEFORE US AS A POLICY AND THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY LOOKED INTO HOW OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING IT AND THEY THEY'RE LITTLE LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AND I THINK BOTH OF THEM. THE TREES HAVE TO BE VISIBLE OR AT ONE OF THOSE OKAY MEMBER ATTENDANCE FOR SARASOTA HAS TO BE WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF THE RIGHT AWAY SO THAT IT HAS IT WILL ADD VALUE TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE NOT JUST SOMEBODY OR GETTING A TREE IT IN THEIR BACKYARD. OKAY, BUT. A CONSERVATION LANDS, YES, I DO AGREE. YOU SLAT OF ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND. PROGRAM CITY REQUIRE THE FIRST PROPERTY THAT WAS OFF A 7 TAIL WAS IN THAT IT'S RIGHT ON YES, I UNDERSTAND LET'S FIRST ONE SINCE AND YOU KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING NEED TO BE PUSHING MORE TO DO BECAUSE ALSO THAT PROGRAM AND THEY DID A. PRESENTATIONS SOME MONTHS AGO WITH COUNTY THAT 50% OF THE FUNDS THAT WE PAY INTO THAT ARE NOW BEING IS FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTIES ALREADY ACQUIRED SO THEY ALREADY WERE GETTING US READY TO TO MAYBE UP WHAT WE'RE PAYING INTO THAT PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING BE ABLE TO BUY ANY MORE LAND BECAUSE TALKING TO ME IS FOR MAINTENANCE SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE BUY. LANDS WITH CITY. MONEYS WE HAVE TO THEN PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES AS I KNOW CONSTITUTION DRIVE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP A LOT ABOUT. THAT AND I DID REQUEST TO ASK WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT THAT'S A SCRUB JAY AREA AND AND JUST LIKE THAT THAT SONG FROM OKLAHOMA OF THE RANCHER IN THE ARMOR CAN BE FRIENDS WHO HAD THIS DAYS AND TREES ARE NOT FRET FRIENDS CONSTRUCT SCRUB JAYS TYPICALLY ONLY LIKE THERE. THE HEIGHT OF 4 OR 8 IS IT SO THEY'RE NOT IF A AREAS HEAVILY TRADE IT'S NOT REALLY. IT'S GOT TODAY TERRITORY WHICH IS WHY THE CONSTITUTION DRIVE THEIR AREA HAS A LOT J AREAS BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY TREAT. THE RESPONSE FROM THE COUNTY WAS THAT OF THE 300 FOR THOSE PROPERTIES OUT THERE ONLY 3 CAME BACK AND SAID THEY MAYBE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SELLING THEIR PROPERTIES SO AS MUCH AS I KNOW PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THAT LIKE TO SEE THE CITY ACQUIRES OWNS PROPERTIES OR NOT BE PAVING THE ROADS OUT THERE BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF OUR AREAS THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY I IT'S JUST THAT'S ONE PERCENT ONE PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE CAME BACK AND SAID YEAH THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SELLING PROPERTY IS TO JUST A. TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. AND YES, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT YES THE UNDER STORY IS IS AND OR IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE TREES FOR THE TREES PROVIDE THE ANCHORS AND WHEN I TEACH FLORIDA FRIENDLY. CLASSES I SAY YOUR TREES OR YOUR ANCHORS AND VENUE YOU CAN FILL IN THAT UNDER STORY, BUT YOU START WITH THAT WITH THE TREES AND THEN YES YOU DO PROVIDE THOSE OTHER THINGS THEY THE POLLINATORS AND ARTISTS FRIENDLY BUTTERFLY ATTRACTING PLANTS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK I I DISCOUNT UNDERSTORY BECAUSE THAT IS THAT IS IMPORTANT AGAIN WHAT YOU CHOOSE HAS TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL. LOVE AGAIN. I LOVE THE IDEA OF THAT AREA BY THE CANINE CLUB TO START WITH THAT AND AS COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SAID YES WIRE AREAS BEING MOWED BUT I ALSO KNOW WHY BECAUSE IF YOU JUST LET IT GO. PEOPLE WILL COMPLAIN LIKE WHAT IS THAT THEY'RE NOT MOANING IT HAS TO LOOK LIKE YES. >> AND AGAIN UP IN SARASOTA HONORE AVENUE IT'S JUST OTHER PLACES THAT I BIKE. >> IT'S JUST GORGEOUS DON'T THOSE BILES SWALES THREW OUT THERE AND YOU COULD AND YOU CAN JUST SAY THEY'RE NOT KNOWING ANY IT'S IT'S REDUCING COST AND IT'S PROVIDING A REALLY PLEASANT AREA TO AND I KNOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT HERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FORWARD THINKING ON ON SOME THINGS IDEAS THE PROPERTIES ALONG 41 AND I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE THAT THAT SIDEWALK THAT GOES SOUTH PORT BOULEVARD TO WHERE I ALWAYS FORGET THE NAME OF THAT STREET. THAT IS A SIDE WALL AND THERE IS NOTHING IT'S IT'S IN FRONT OF TEQUILA IT'S SO THERE AND AND AND I GO THROUGH THERE IT'S JUST SO LIKE I SAID IT'S REALLY BECOMING A BLIGHTED AREA IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK. NICE AND ALL I CAN SAY IS TO COUNTRIES SIDEWALK ARE READY. ♪ ♪ TONIGHT I AGAIN I APPRECIATE YOU. BRINGING THAT UP AND THE TERM AND GREEN SPACE YES THAT'S THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE AGAIN SOME YEARS AGO. AND SOME OTHERS BROUGHT UP THE IDEA BECAUSE WE HAVE ALWAYS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEBUILDERS THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE LIKE A MASTER PLAN OBVIOUSLY LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A A LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT THAT REQUIRES TREES AND I TELL PEOPLE THOSE LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENTS. THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE STREETS. SO GUY. THEY HAVE THEY HAVE TO REPLACE AND. SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEOWNERS DON'T HAVE TO. AND YOU KNOW COMMISSIONER LANGDON BROUGHT UP FOR NEIGHBORS THAT AND OF THOSE 3 TREYS THEY CAN THEM OUT AND I I'VE KNOWN PEOPLE TO DO THAT BUT AS SOON AS THEY GOT THERE CO THEY PULL THEM OUT DON'T WANT TREES AND THAT'S THE END OF THAT. SO SOME YEARS SAID MAYBE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEBUILDERS FOR EVERY 10 LOTS THEY BUILD ON THEY HAVE TO. WHAT YOU'RE CALLING OUT AND GREEN SPACE I HAVE A QUARTER ACRE LOT SOMEWHERE THAT THEY DON'T. BUILD ON OF COURSE THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE THAT I BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING WE THROW OUT THERE AS A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE LIKE YOU AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ALL THAT GREAT SPACE IS BEING LAST TO HOUSING WHICH IS IF PEOPLE WOULD PUT SOMETHING BACK ON THEIR PROPERTIES AND THEY'RE NOT SO. AND THAT'S AGAIN ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM COMES SO AGAIN I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THESE IDEAS AND ALSO THAT YOU'VE INCORPORATED A LOT OF WHAT PEOPLE CAME FORWARD, BUT THEY WANTED TO THIS FOR THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO VICE MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. >> I WANT TO LOVE HISTORY FUN, BUT I WILL MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT. THEY STOPPED A MISTER LANKANS COMMENTS ABOUT. ♪ ♪ YOU KNOW CONCERN OVER THAT WE YOU KNOW WE HAVE ONLY 8% PERCENT OF OUR LAND GENERATING. YOU KNOW PRESIDENTIAL REVENUES. IT WAS YOU KNOW CERTAINLY SHE'S PREACHING TO THE CHOIR THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LANDS AND I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON. ARE NOT EXACTLY LANCE THAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE A POTENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC JUGGERNAUTS IN THE AND SO I DON'T THINK YOU CAN'T YOU HAVE TO PICK BETWEEN ONE THE OTHER YOU KNOW IT'S JUST THAT PARTING COMMENT I WOULD SAY THAT YOU KNOW IT'S JUST NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT BUT WE REALLY NEED. TO CARE ABOUT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT DO NEED TO BE PROTECTED. OUR CITIZENS ARE SCREAMING FOR IT WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT WE'RE DOING. THERE'S ROOM TO DO THIS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH. SMALL GROUPS OUT THERE. YOU KNOW I'M ALL FOR OTHER PEOPLE USING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE MISS OUT AS AS LATEST SET ANYWAY THE MOVE TO OF THESE OTHER AREAS. I THINK I HAVE A THAT THE BOARD THE LAYUP PERSPECTIVE 29TH, 13 AFTER LISTENING TO. LIKE ELLIS PITCH FOR A MASTER PLAN, YOU HARD ARGUE WITH THAT I DO AGREE THE LAST THING I WANT TO SEE US. IT'S ACTIVITY CENTER 6 GET AWAY FROM THAT IS THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE SO YOU KNOW WELL I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GETTING TOO FAR AHEAD OF OURSELVES. YOU KNOW. THIS YEAR IS CHALLENGING. DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DO WITH WITH ARPA FUND DECISION IF WE IDENTIFY PROJECTS A PROJECT OR TO BOARD THAT WE CAN REALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS TO ONE OF THE ITEMS ON LIST IS THIS ACTIVITY CENTER 6 MASTER PLAN I WOULD JUST FOR YOU THAT UP FOR MISSION CONSIDER A SUPPORT JUST NOT SURE PERFECT GET. I GOT A QUESTION ON 2895 FISCAL IMPACT UPGRADE IS THIS. COUPLE TO WARM MINERAL SPRINGS ONLY. TRIED WHAT WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S A. A PROPOSED DETAIL SHOOTING 2895 FISCAL IMPACT MODULE UPGRADE KNOW SIR WE DO THIS MOST >> WE SPECIFICALLY DO IT HART INDUSTRIES AS WELL ALL BUT WE HAVE PROVIDED WE HAVE DONE THIS COLD COLD HEART MODEL ON. >> OF THE COMMENTS AND THE NOTES WERE JUST AN EXAMPLE EXACTLY EXACTLY AND AND I DO WANT IF I COULD GO BACK TO IT ARE 6 MASTER I JUST WANT TO THE COMMISSION THAT THAT IS IN THE BUDGET NOW SO IS INCLUDED AS FUNDED. I DO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE CAN'T AGAIN THAT STUDY UNTIL UTILITIES IS FINISHED THEIR CAPACITY STUDY. SO THAT THAT PASSED IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND WE ARE PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN WILL BE TO LOOK AT WAYS TO TOLERATE UTILITIES TO THAT AREA. WE DO HAVE VERY LARGE. LANDOWNER AND ACTIVITY CENTER 6 COUP IS. AND SHE WANTS TO DEVELOP THAT AREA. OBVIOUSLY THE NEED FOR HAS TO GET ARE WILLING. AND INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR. THE TOTAL EXTENT RUN. BUT THE CITY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO FUND FRONT. SOME COSTS AND THEN GET MONEY. IT THE REIMBURSED FOR THAT AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN THE TIME TABLE ON THAT. >> UTILITY FORGET WHAT HAVE CITY PLAN WORKING ON IT NOW TO WORKS OUT NOT THE STATE 9 TO 10 MONTHS OUT FROM NOW YOU HAVE FROM NOW OKAY RECOVERED FROM THEY CAN'T DISCUSS THIS. >> YES SPEND IT. WE COULD HAVE BE DONE WE COULD HAVE IT ON TRACK TO READY TO GO IS SAYING COST STUDY IS COMPLETED SO LIKELY SOMETIME TOWARDS THE END. THE LATTER HALF LIST, BUT NEXT THE SCHOOL. BUT IT. JUST STAY WHERE ARE AWARE OF THE TIMING. BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ACCELERATED. SHOULD THE CITY ABILITY TO BORROW LOW-INTEREST WRITES LIKE. DISCUSSING THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH A DEVELOPER IN ORDER TO ACCELERATE EXTENT BECAUSE IT COST THE DEVELOPERS ABOUT PARKING. PERCENT THE FUND CAPITAL PRO VS >> WE WERE YOU KNOW AT THE ABILITIES OR 2. >> PROJECT HERE 2914 GROWTH SCENARIO, FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS IS THIS SECOND STUDY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> ALREADY WON IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR GOT OKAY THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS I SO >> 2867 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES. ONLY 50,000 BUT MY QUESTION IS. ON THE ONE HAND THIS IT ENOUGH AND ON THE OTHER HAND DOES REALLY PROVIDE ANY REAL VALUE. I MEAN ART. >> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT $50,000 I THE ANSWER TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION IS IT KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION IS YES. AND AND I GIVE YOU SOME GENERALIZED EXAMPLES I DON'T WANT TO GET VERY SPECIFIC HERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO START NAMING NAMES FOR THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPER CURRENTLY WHO WOULD LIKE TO BRING AND JEWS ALL VERY VERY MUCH WANT. AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKED REPEATEDLY WHAT KIND OF INCENTIVES CAN YOU OFFER WHETHER THAT IS. WE DO AN IMPACT FEE DEFERRAL. ARE WE WEIGH THE COST OF BUILDING PERMIT FEES BEARING IN MIND WE CAN'T UNDERSTATE STATUE WE CAN'T. WE WAVES BUILDING PERMIT PHASE. WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM SOMEWHERE WHICH MEANS THE CITY BUT ESSENTIALLY COVER THAT COST. AND ON IMPACT FEES ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING WE THOSE IMPACT FEES HAVE TO BE PAID ONE WAY OR OTHER. YES IN A DEFERRAL THE CITY WILL RECEIVE THOSE IMPACT FEES BACK OVER TIME. BUT THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BEING ASKED. WHILE IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE MORE 15,000. BEING ABLE TO OFFER SOMETHING. IN IS IMPORTANT AS A GESTURE THAT YES THE CITY REALLY IS INVESTED IN THIS AND REALLY DOES WANT YOUR YOUR BUSINESS TO COME HERE. >> NEXT GENERAL JAVON 2700 FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR. AND AND SO MY QUESTION IS SLIGHT STORMWATER MANAGER VERSUS FLOOD PLAIN ADMINISTRATOR, LIKE COULD YOU KIND SHED SOME LIGHT ON THESE POSITIONS SO WE BETTER UNDERSTAND. >> THEY REALLY ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS AND I THINK HURRICANE HIGHLIGHTED THE FACT THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO SEPARATE THESE DUTIES AND HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPECIFICALLY IN CONTROL OF STILLWATER MANAGER IS DEALING WITH THE CITY'S STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THE THE CANALS THE WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES DRAINAGE ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE WATER MANAGEMENT. REVIEWING DEVELOPMENT OR THE DEVELOPMENT FOR COMPLIANCE WITH STORM REGULATIONS THAT IS ALL FROM WATER MANAGEMENT. PLANE MANAGER IS FEMA. IT IS CERTIFICATION TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN STAY IN NATIONAL INSURANCE INSURANCE PROGRAM. IT'S THOSE CERTIFICATIONS RECERTIFICATION THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I'M ALL ABOUT BASS IS TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE THOSE DISCOUNT CITYWIDE. AND IT IS WHEN WE DO HAVE A STORM IT'S THE PERSON WHO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE APPROPRIATE INFORMATION OUT TO OUR PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS ON HOW THEY NEED TO WE BUILD IN THOSE THE WHAT AREAS SO IT REALLY IS 2 DIFFERENT THEY ARE TOO. FULL TIME JOBS. AND FOR CITY OUR SIZE IT WAS OK IN THE PASSES WHEN WE WERE SMALLER TO ONE PERSON DOING THAT. BUT AT THE SIZE THAT WE ARE WITH THE AMOUNT BUILDING THAT WE AND WITH WHAT WE SAW. AFTER HURRICANE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED. WORK FOCUSED ON PRE HURRICANE IAN THAT REALLY NEED TO BE FOCUSED OR FLOOD PLAIN LITIGATION. IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE GET THIS POSITION AND IT IS PROPOSED OUT BUILDING FUND BECAUSE IT IS IT IS DIRECTLY TIED TO THE THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AS WELL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH THAT WAS SO FOR ME HOPEFULLY OTHER PEOPLE THAT'S REALLY WILL SO. >> ALL RIGHT, I JUST WONDER WHAT WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE BOARD BECAUSE IT'S WANT TO WANT TO COME BACK WE JUST FINISHED UP AND THEN TAKE LUNCH SINCE MIND IS ALREADY YOU KNOW WHAT I REALLY LOOKING LIKE WITHIN THE NEXT 1520 MINUTES, WE CAN WRAP UP. WATCH THE BOARDMAN FOR OKAY, OKAY. >> ALL COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> YEAH, I GOT NOTHING. >> HAHA. ♪ >> YOU KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY GOT ALREADY ON INTO THE SECOND ROUND I COVERED TREES, BUT. >> NOW SAY IT NEXT TIME, I'M GOOD. >> OK THANK YOU THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF OF GOING LAST IS THAT PEOPLE TAKE WITH YOU I'M GOING TO SAY SO COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. ♪ >> REGARDING THE ACTIVITY CENTER 6 MASTER PLAN. THAT AREA HAS MORPHED INTO AN ACTIVITY CENTER 10. AND THEY ARE VERY INTERTWINED. WITH THE ROAD NETWORKS AND THAT DIFFERENT I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THE $200,000 WE PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ACTIVITY CENTER 6.10 IS LOOK BACK. HOLMES STICKLEY NOT SEPARATELY UPSELL AND BUT THIS MASTER PLAN IS ONLY FOR ACTIVITY CENTER 6. SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT ACTIVITIES AND THEIR AND IS INCLUDED. AND THAT MASTER PLAN. >> SO TO INCLUDE ACTIVITY CENTER 10:00AM WE WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT IS IT IS. AREA CONSIDERABLE GEOGRAPHIC SIZE WITH RIGHT NETWORK. GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE COUNTY LINE CELLS. SO I I WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED ADDITIONAL $100,000 TO INCORPORATE TO THE CENTER THAT'S A ONE POINT. >> SHARPEN YOUR PENCILS HIGH THERE'S NO POINT IN DOING JUST ACTIVITY CENTER 6 IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO JUST ACTIVITY CENTER 6 TAKE THE $200,000 WEEK NEXT YEAR. >> THE FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE TO DO BOTH BECAUSE OF THE TIMING. THE CAPACITY STUDY. DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING THIS YEAR TO DO CENTER 10 WITH IT. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE 2. DELAY 3 MONTHS AND DO IT. BOTH OF THEM NEXT YEAR THE YEAR. BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO START OF THIS STUDY TO THE UNTIL 4TH QUARTER. OF THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR ANYWAY WILL SLIDE THEN. >> 3 MONTHS. >> IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS DOESN'T REALLY MAKE. BUT DIFFERENCE TO THEN JUST INCLUDE THE ENTIRE. >> OUT. >> AND SPOKE WORK IN FY 26. SO HERE'S A SUGGESTION. >> SINCE IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO DO THIS ANYTIME THIS FISCAL YEAR. THIS IS OVER THE $50,000 SPECIAL CREATE A CIP PROJECT PUT A $100,000 IN IT ARE $200,000 IN IT. AND NEXT YEAR FULLY FUNDED AND THEN CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE CIP MISSION FOR MASTER TO THE CID ARE 6.10 SO 10 DOES NOT GET FORGOTTEN ABOUT. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. >> WE WE COULD DO THAT WE CAN PUT A MINIMAL AMOUNT AND IT HAS A PLACE HOLDER OR WE COULD CREATE IT. A LOOK AT CREDIT FUNDING, BUT. >> 200,000 TO GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL BECAUSE THIS IS GENERAL MY MY FEAR IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRYSTAL BALL SAYS FOR 20 TO 26 RIGHT AND IF YOU DON'T PUT SOMETHING IN SUBSTANTIAL THE NEXT YEAR DEPENDING ON WHAT THE FINANCIAL OUTLOOK LOOKS LIKE FOR 2026 WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THIS WHAT IT LIKE ONE OF THOSE FISH OR CUT BAIT. THANK YOU CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE REST WE COULD CHANGE THAT HAD IT TO ACTIVITIES ARE 6.10. >> WE COULD KEEP IT WE WANT TO KEEP THE 200,000 AND AND PUT IT AS A PLACE HOLDER FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. >> I IT'S WE CAN START THANK YOU. >> AND NOBODY THINKS I HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN MY BLOOD I DEFINITELY POINT THINK THAT THE WEATHER MANAGED BY MASTER PLANNING TO DO. LET'S GET A CONSENSUS OR THE THINK I HAVE SOME AGREEMENT HERE. >> A CONSENSUS TO HAVE STAFF REMOVED BUDGET PROPOSAL, 2913. >> CREATE. >> A CIP PROJECT. A NEW CIP PROJECT FOR ACTIVITY CENTER 6.10 MASTER PLANNING. KEEP THE $200,000. BUDGETED IN THE PROGRAM. ♪ MAYBE WE COULD STILL GET STARTED. >> WE IT WOULD IT WILL WEAKEN RIGHT THE SCOPE. WE CAN HAVE THAT READY TO GO WE UNTIL WE HAVE FULL FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO SO WE WOULD COULD AT LEAST TRY SCOPE. BUT UNTIL THAT PASSES SENDS DOWN AND WE HAVE FULL FUNDING WITHOUT >> OK SO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS PART THAT YOU CAPTURE THAT MOMENT IT THAT. >> DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER REMOVE BUDGET PROPOSAL 2913 TO CREATE CIP CREATE A CIP FOR ACTIVITY CENTER 6 IN 10 MASTERPLAN KEEPING THE $200,000 BUDGETED IN THE PROGRAM. >> NOT 200. >> I WAS IN A CASE, A COMMISSIONER DOWN COMING YEAR, YES, YES AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE THAT FOR JULY'S WORKSHOPS, OKAY. YES, RIGHT COMMISSIONER LANGDON COMMISSIONER MC DOWELL WOULD SAY **** BEEN SAYING COMMISSIONER HEMORRHAGE YEAH, OKAY THAT YOUR CONSENSUS, THANK YOU. MAKE DECISION ALL RIGHT. >> CAN A CONFUSED WITH THIS FISCAL AND IMPACT ANALYSIS $250,000 BUDGET PROPOSAL, 2914 PAGE 49 COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I HAVE MY THOUGHTS ON WHAT IT IS, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS. ALREADY >> IT HAS OUT OF BUDGET. AND BEING FUNDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. AS THE COMMISSION IS THIS IS SHE IS WHAT AREAS I DON'T OVER THE NEXT. WHEN YEARS. HERES HR LIST. WHAT WE HAVE. NOW WHAT ARE YOU THAT FUTURE NEEDS. >> AND IT BREAKS IT DOWN IN TYPICALLY 5 YEAR AND 10 YEAR INCREMENTS O PAULO SO THAT THE CITY UNDERSTANDS. EXPENSES AND WHEN EXPENSES ARE GOING TO OCCUR. AND THAT WAS IT WAS INCLUDED IN BUDGET BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION TO MOVE IT TO THIS YEAR. SO IT CITY HAS IDENTIFIED THE FUNDING FOR I THINK WE'VE ALREADY STARTED STARTED THE PROCESS FOR THAT AND THAT HERE. >> THIS IS FOR GROWTH MODEL IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YES, 2914 IS FOR GROW 2914, IS THE FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS, NOT FULL BATTLE. >> I BOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD PUT THE NUMBERS IN FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WOULD TELL US WHAT THE IMPACTING REVENUES GOING TO SO WE CAN TELL US THAT THERE ISN'T THAT DIFFERENT. IMPACT MORROW THERE'S A CITYWIDE ANALYSIS BASED ON GROWTH SCENARIOS, TYPICALLY LOW MEDIUM AND HIGH GROWTH AREAS SCHOOL PERFORMANCE. IT IS AND IT AND IT PROJECTS WHAT YOUR. CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ARE GOING TO BE OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME TYPICALLY 20 TO 30 YEARS. AND IT COMPARES THE GROWTH PLATES AND AND HOW CITY IS GOING TO GROW WITH THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AND IT TELLS YOU WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEBT TO SIT BETWEEN WHAT YOUR GROWTH IS GOING TO BRING IN AND HOW MUCH YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE GOING TO SO THAT YOU CAN START PLANNING FOR THAT WHETHER IT IS INCREASING IMPACT FEES OR OTHER REVENUE STREAMS. SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF ANALYSIS THAT THIS DOES IT DOES NOT PROVIDE YOU THAT THE MODEL PLUG IN THE NUMBERS FOR SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT THAT'S WHAT THE SKULL MODEL WILL TOO. >> AND IF I MAY JUMP IN JUST BECAUSE THIS WAS THE SECOND. HE'S STUDYING I DIDN'T DIALOGUE WITH REGARD TO OUR WHEN AUTHORITIES AND TO THAT THE 2 STUDIES NECESSARY CREATE THE GUARDRAILS AND REALLY THE PLANNING MECHANISMS GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE COULD SEE WHAT PROJECTED FIVE-YEAR REVENUES AND EXPENSES SQUARE. THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDS SO WE COULD SEE WHERE OUR SHORT FULL SPITE BE FINANCIALLY WHERE WE MIGHT THAT'S IF WE NEEDED TO HOW WE WOULD BEST BE ABLE TO PAY FOR UP ARE SO THE STUDY SAYS THIS ONE IN AND THE ONE WE TALKED YESTERDAY, WE'RE IN A REALLY TIGHT. TO THIS WHOLE FINANCIAL PLANNING PROCESS OVER THE NEXT 5 YEARS. JUST THE TRIGGER. >> THAT THANK YOU DID WHAT AND THIS THIS. OFFICE ALSO RATHER THAN IT MOVES IT JURISDICTIONS FROM PLANNING FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS THE PLANNING FOR THE NEXT 1015 20 YEARS SAYS THAT YOU'RE NOT CAUGHT BY SURPRISE BY THAT FUTURE GROWTH AND WHAT. YOU KNOW WE ARE SPRINGS NOW. SO IT IT MOVES THAT IT HAS I'VE SEEN IT WORK IN OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY ARE PLANNING. WHAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR EXPENDITURES ARE GOING TO BE 1015 YEARS FROM NOW THEY PLAN IN A. AND INFLATION INDEX WITH THAT AND THEY'RE ABLE TO START THAT PROCESS. WAY IN ADVANCE NOT JUST 5 SO THAT IT PUT YOU IN A BETTER FINANCIAL POSITION OVER THAT THAT ENTIRE PLANNING HORIZON, US >> ECONOMIC INCENTIVES JUST THROWN IT OUT THERE. WELL WE GIVE IT EITHER ALL HAS TO PAY FOR IT. AND PAUL IS OUR TAXPAYERS AND WHILE WE WANT TO BRING IN THIS BUSINESS IS HERE. OUR TAXPAYERS ARE ACTUALLY FOOTING THE BILL FOR DEVELOPERS AND THAT CONCERNS I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST INCENTIVES FOR FOR THE REASONS THAT I JUST NOBODY INCENTIVIZED OTHER DEVELOPMENTS FOR COMING HERE OUR FIRST TIME DEVELOPMENTS FOR COMING DONNELL'S WALMART COSTCO NONE OF THOSE GUIDANCE ADVICE AND THEY STILL CAN. SO WHEN YOU SAY OH IT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY. JUST REMEMBER IT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO THE TAXPAYERS WERE PAYING FOR THAT. SO JUST ON THAT UP TO. FLOOD PLAIN ADMINISTRATOR THE QUESTION I CAN MOVE ON FROM THAT EYE. >> THE. >> CHIEF INSPECTOR. THIS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE I'M SORRY PAGE 58 BUDGET PROPOSAL TO 1892 IN THE BUILDING FUND. >> WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE ORG CHART COMPARING IT FROM FISCAL YEAR, 2324. THERE WAS NO CHIEF INSPECTOR, BUT THERE WAS A CHANGE. PLANS EXAMINER. SO THEN YOU GO TO FISCAL YEAR 2020 FOR 2025. THERE A CHIEF INSPECTOR. BUT THERE IS NO CHIEF EXAMINER. >> IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE SAME POSITION BUT JUST DIFFERENT TITLES. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES. >> SO THAT KEEP INSPECTOR IS INSPECTOR AND A PLANS EXAMINER. THEY PLANNED MURDERS IN THE OFFICE. ALL TIME, THEY'RE LOOKING AT PLANTS, THAT'S WHAT THEY BUILDING PLANS COME IN. THEY'RE REVIEWING THEM FOR COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA BUILDING HAVE AND SENDING COMMENTS BACK OUT TO THE THE CONTRACTORS. THE INSPECTORS, THEY'RE THE ONES OUT IN THE FIELD INSPECTING THE WORK AS IT'S BEING DONE. I'M THE CHIEF AND THEN WE DO HAVE A EXAMINER IS JUST. I'M SORRY IT WAS. I WAS RECLASSIFIED TO THE CHIEF INSPECTOR WE HAVE PLANS EXAMINERS THERE UNDER THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WELL FOR DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL. BECAUSE WE WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS A BETTER FIT CHIEF INSPECTORS. FEEL THAT THERE. THEIR STAFF THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE GOT A 1, I THINK 13 LEVEL. WELL WE'VE GOT 13 BUILDING INSPECTORS AND THAT'S A LOT OF SPAN OF CONTROL FOR ONE. >> CHIEF INSPECTOR. THE IDEA IS SAID THAT CHIEF INSPECTOR IS THE ONE THAT THEY GO TO FIRST OR. >> ANY. >> ISSUES THAT THEY'RE FINDING OUT IN THE IN THE FIELD THERE ARE THAT MANY CASES WHERE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE PROVIDES ALLOWANCES TO DO ALTERNATIVE CONSTRUCTION METHODS. THAT AN INSPECTOR, A BASIC INSPECTOR MAY NOT BE COMFORTABLE MAKING THAT CALL. IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO USE THAT ALTERNATIVE METHOD IN THAT CASE AND THAT'S WHERE THEY NEED SOMEONE WHO MORE EXPERIENCE THAN THEM. THEY NEED THAT GUIDANCE SOMEONE WHO IT. BUT OF THAT AND A CHIEF INSPECTOR PAUL THAT THAT PERSON IS OUT IN THE FIELD. WHAT INSPECTORS THEY'RE DOING THEIR OWN INSPECTIONS MORE COMPLICATED ON THINGS THAT ARE ALSO MAKING THOSE CALL THOSE TO THOSE ALTERNATIVE INSTRUCTION THAT THAT'S SO WHEN I READ THE DETAILS SAYS HERE THIS POSITION WILL SERVE AS A SUPERVISOR TO FIELD INSPECTORS AND PLAN REVIEWERS WHEN I LOOK AT THE ORG CHART. >> THERE IS NO. LITTLE LINE GOING DOWN TO THE PLAN'S EXAMINERS. >> WE CAN WE CAN WORK ON THAT JUST WHAT I'M YEAH I'M SEEN DUPLICATIONS RIGHT AND I'M >> IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A DUPLICATION IT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POSITION. IT SUPPORTS THE DEPUTY BUILDING >> MIDDLE MANAGEMENT JUST TYPE OF THE POSITION IT IT IS IT'S IT'S A IT'S A FRONT LINE SUPERVISOR IS IN THE FIELD SO IT REALLY A FIELD SUPERVISOR. AND THEY MAY HAVE THERE MAY BE TIMES WHEN THE PLANS EXAMINER WOULD GO TO. CHIEF INSPECTOR TO GET SOME ADVICE OR A DIET. PRIMARILY THAT PLAN'S EXAMINERS WILL BE REPORTING TO THE DEBT. BUILDING OFFICIAL AND WE CAN CLEAN UP THAT TORCH ART. THANK YOU. >> SO MOVING ON TO THE TREE LEAST CONSERVATION OFFICER. >> I KNOW ADDED THE POSITION WAS LAST YEAR THE YEAR BEFORE. THEY WERE TO HELP WITH THE IT WILL IT WAS SOLD TO US AS. THERE'S A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING OF MATERIALS THAT ARE HAZARDOUS TO THE THIS POSITION WILL HELP WITH CURBING THAT. >> I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THIS PERSON BEING OUT THERE BY THEMSELVES, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S MORE OUT EAST IN THE RURAL AREA OF THE CITY. SEEING THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER. CONSERVATION OFFICER. COMING OUT OF THE TREE FUND THIS IS A POLICE OFFICER POSITION IT'S A SWORN >> I'D REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND. HOW THIS IS HELPING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. WITH THESE 2 POSITIONS BECAUSE AS AS IT WAS STATED I THINK IT WAS YESTERDAY THAT THEY ONLY CAN DO CRIMINAL. INVESTIGATORS THEY CAN ONLY HANDLE CRIMINAL I'M I'M JUST NOT FEELING THE NEED TO HAVE THIS IN THE IT'S MORE OF A POLICE POSITION. >> I I CAN START TURN IT OVER SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH IT'S NOT JUST. DESTRUCTION OF. ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS A PROPERTY. ALSO CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. THE WEATHER. IT'S RIGHT OF WAYS OR. AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DEDICATED AS PARKS THAT ARE THE. USED FOR MOTORIZED VEHICLES WE EVEN HAVE. HOMELESS ISSUES ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. THAT CERTAIN ACTIVITIES CAN BE CONSIDERED CRIMINAL IF THE DESTRUCTION OF. PUBLIC PROPERTY AND ALL THEY REACH A CERTAIN TO ALTER THE CHIEF TO THE CHIEF. >> SO BASICALLY YOU THAT THIS POSITION IS WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH DIRECTORIES PEOPLE SO IT. SO THE TIME WE MAY ENCOUNTER SOME OF THESE ISSUES YOU NEED A STEP IN TO TAKE THE REST OF IT. SO BASICALLY BY WHAT WORKING TOGETHER. WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE CONSERVATION ISSUES OR MENTAL ISSUES UP THERE. >> THAT WHAT THE POLICE OFFICERS DO IN GENERAL WHEN THERE'S ISSUE WITH CITY. SOME KIND OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY THAT A CITY PERSONNEL IDENTIFIES THEY CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT CRIMINAL ASPECT TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT. IN YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HOW HOW IS THIS POSITION IS IS SPECIALLY TRAINED IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS NORMAL PATROL OFFICERS HAVE THE TRAINING THAT. 1.2 OFFICERS NOT. >> IF YOU WANT WORSE THAN A ENVIRONMENTAL AND A CONSERVATION PLAY. >> A PRICE. AND I THINK PART OF THE REASON WHY I'M SO HESITANT AND CONFUSED ABOUT THIS POSITION IS WHEN WE HAD THEM AND CERTAINLY TOUR. CONSERVATION OFFICER MET US OUT THERE AND EXPLAIN WHAT THAT POSITION WAS AND HOW IMPORTANT WAS. IT'S NOT MATCHING WHAT I'M HEARING REEDY, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S. >> EXPANDED ITS. WELL, LET'S LET'S NOT CONFUSE LIKE I SAID OUR GUYS WERE MULTIPLE HATS SO. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE THING YOU KNOW YOU DESCRIBED THE CERTAIN SEGMENT OF HIS JOB. DOESN'T MATCH WHAT THIS IS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT HE'S DOING. THERE WERE MULTIPLE HATS AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE STRETCHED >> SO ARE THESE 2 GOING TO BE PARTNERING TOGETHER SO THAT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE BY THEMSELVES. IT'S GOING YES. IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT BE PART TOGETHER. WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO EXPAND HOURS OF OPERATION THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE. >> SO FEEL THOUGH BE AN EXAMPLE WE GET A LOT OF CALLS. WE HAVE WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WE HAVE PUBLIC SPEAKERS SPOKEN TO THIS WHAT A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN AFTER HOURS OR ON THE WEEKENDS. DOESN'T WORK ON THE WEEKENDS OR AFTER HOURS AND I DON'T HAVE THE STAFF OR FORCE MEANT TO DO THAT. BY NATURAL RESOURCES THAT DOES NOT WORK NOT SO THEY CAN BUT IF THAT. A BOBCAT A BULLDOZER IS THAT GOPHER TORTOISE NO 7 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT OR ON A SATURDAY. OR THEY'RE CUTTING TREES DOWN THIS CONSERVATION OFFICER WOULD BE THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND ENSURE THAT WORK STOPS. >> SO MY FINAL IS ON. I GOT TO WANT. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGE TO A 50 TO 50 IT SAYS HERE THAT IS THE POLICE OFFICER CONSERVATION EQUIPMENT FOR 54,000 AND THEN YOU GO DOWN TO THE POLICE OFFICERS VEHICLE FOR 49,000. WHAT IS THE 54,000. WHAT WHAT EQUIPMENT DOES A POLICE OFFICER NEED THAT'S $54,000. INITIALLY I THOUGHT IT WAS THE VEHICLE AND THEN I SAW THE VEHICLE WAS LISTED SEPARATELY FURTHER DOWN SOME PAGE ONE '07 OF THE HTE. >> HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT INSPECTING ALL. PRESIDENT THAT MOMENT RIGHT NOW. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY FINAL QUESTION THAT HAS TO DO WITH. THE TREE, I'M SORRY BUILDING FUND IS AT 56% ABOVE FOR FIND A BALANCE HOLY MACKEREL I REMEMBER WHEN THAT HAPPENED WE HAD TO SPEND THAT DOWN VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE IT WAS. BORDERLINE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CORRECT WORD IS BUT 56% ABOVE FUND HOW ARE WE GOING REDUCE THAT DOWN. >> WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF THAT THIS YEAR ON OF THE MODEL SOME OF THAT ON THE REMODEL WE'RE WE'RE ABOUT TO START >> RENOVATING THE PERMIT COUNTER AND THE FRONT AREA WHERE PEOPLE COME IN TO GET BUILDING PERMITS. WE ARE WALKING AT THAT'S ALL PROJECTS BUT. >> IS AN ISSUE WE DO NEED TO EXPEND THE THE BUILDING THE VISION IS ENTIRELY AND COMPLETELY OUT OF ROOM. WE ARE TESTING AT THE MAXIMIZED EVERY SQUARE INCH OF FIRST FLOOR CITY HALL THAT WE CAN. BUT AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF THE BUILDING DIVISION ♪ AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THAT WAS WHY I PUT MY HAND UP AND SAID I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE POLICE STATION POSSIBLE, I WILL SO THE MOVE ABOUT SO YOU CAN MOVE I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET BELIEVE IS IN TRUCKS HERE TOMORROW I HEARD YES >> SO SO THAT IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW WE ARE. >> PUBLIC FACILITIES TEAM WAS LOOKING AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THE BUILDING DIVISION WOULD USE OF THAT BUILDING. AND SO THAT WAY WE COULD KNOW WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WE COULD CONTRIBUTE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN ALLOCATION PER SQUARE FOOTAGE BY POINT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE FUND BALANCE SHEETS ALREADY INCLUDE THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED APPROPRIATIONS AND WE'RE STILL AT 56% OF A LOT INCLUDING THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE. >> PARTIAL PURCHASE OR TRANSFER OF A BUILDING THAT OUT. WELL I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT. THAT IS YEARS FROM NOW WELL, NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THE FUNDS COULD BE TRANSFERRED FOR. THAT SO IN ORDER TO SECURE THE USE OF THAT BUILDING. SO THERE ARE THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH FINANCE AND THIS IS ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT WE DID EVERYTHING APPROPRIATE. THERE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, BUT WE DO NEED TO SPEND. YEAH MONEY FOR THE BALL ALSO LONGER THAT. >> CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION TO BUILD GENERAL GOVERNMENT BUILDING PARCHMAN. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF. >> A GOOD SHOWING PROPOSED ANNEXATION. >> WELL PART. WELL NEWS BY 4 TIMES BUT. DAY. PARK WAS ALWAYS A VISION BEING THE ONE THAT IS GOING LOOKING WITH THE THE FUNDING FOR THAT GENERAL GOVERNMENT BUILDING UP WELL AS PART OF JUST THE PRI. >> ABSENT I KNOW EVERYBODY'S BILLINGS ARE GROWING MY LAST QUESTION WAS PROMPTED BY THE TREE FUND BUT IT INVOLVES OTHER. DISTRICTS AND OTHER FUNDS. >> AND THAT IS A PAGE. >> YEAH, I'M SORRY PAGE 3. OF THE REVENUE. >> IT'S THE TRANSFER FROM VARIOUS FARMS INTO THE GENERAL FUND. CARRYING THIS AND LOOKING AT THIS THAT REFUND LAST YEAR CONTRIBUTED TO THE GENERAL FUND $14,086. AND THIS YEAR IT JUMPED TO $30,300 WHICH IS MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR. SO THAT THAT ALONE MADE ME LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER FUNDS. SOME OF THEM JUMPED 45% SOME OF THEM JUMPED 17%. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW IS THIS AMOUNT DETERMINE WHAT IS THE MAGIC FORMULA. 4 AND I THINK I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION IN THE BUT THIS. PERCENT INCREASE USING TREE FUND MONEY TO PAY INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THIS IS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE FOR SERVICES THAT FUND USES CITYWIDE IT SEEMS. A LITTLE BIT DISPROPORTIONATE AND I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT FORMULA IS IS ITS BASED ON A PERCENTAGE USING IS FUND THAT IS PAYING INTO THE GENERAL. >> IN 2 IN A STRAIGHT-A SERVICES CHAN TRANSFER AND THE AMOUNT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE SURFACE TRANSFER. NOW THINK ABOUT THAT REFUND IN TOTAL. IN THE PAST YEARS SO THEIR PERCENTAGE. WHAT THEY'RE PAYING INTO THAT IT'S TO MORE THAN JUST A NORMAL KIND OF INCREASE. >> SO YOU SAID THAT THE FORMULA IS THE PERCENTAGE OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, THEIRS. >> THE DEPARTMENTS THAT MAKE UP THE ADMINISTRATIVE THAT IS ALL THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND FUNDS >> ARE PAYING FOR. >> SO WITH THAT INCREASE IS OBVIOUSLY THE THE AMOUNT THAT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND FUNDS ARE PUTTING IN ARE GOING TO INCREASE AND IT'S BASED ALSO ON A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THAT BUDGET IS. SO AGAIN. TREE FUND WENT FROM WHAT WAS IT, YOU KNOW, AND ARBORIST ARE A COUPLE ARBORISTS NOW A WHOLE NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION. THEIR BUDGET HAS INCREASED THEIR FOR THEIR PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THEY'RE PAYING INTO. ADMINISTRATOR SERVICES WHICH IS THE CITY CLERK, THE CITY FINANCE DEPARTMENT THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE AS WELL BASED ON THAT. THEIR DEPARTMENT HAS AND THEIR FUND HAS INCREASED. >> I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT PERCENTAGES THAT AND HOW IT'S DETERMINED WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET IS BECAUSE ROAD AND DRAINAGE ONLY PAY ONE PERCENT. SO THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING WITH SEEING OUT OF WHACK IT ONLY INCREASED ONE PERCENT FROM LAST YEAR. >> SO I DON'T REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND SO THEY'RE JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE THESE ARE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS, BUT IF THAT REFUND WAS BY PERCENT OF THE TOTAL BUDGET. BEFORE THOSE CHANGES AND THEN AFTERWARDS IT WAS 10% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SUCH A BIG INCREASE SO IS ♪ DETERMINED BY FUNDS TOTAL ♪ DOLLAR BUDGET AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL. THE WHOLE BUDGET. AND THEN THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENTS ARE SPLIT BASED ON PERCENTAGE AGAIN ROAD AND DRAINAGE ONLY WENT UP ONE PERCENT. IS THAT OPERATING BUDGET I SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIED THAT NOT WHICH DOESN'T INCLUDE CAPITAL. >> AND FOR ROAD. DRAINAGE OBVIOUSLY TOOK OUT IN. I'M GOING LET YOU PULL THAT BUDGET IN ONE YEAR BECAUSE THEY HAD TO PAY FOR. DEBRIS REMOVAL. >> AGAIN I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT I THE ONE KEEP EVERYBODY FROM LUNCH I KINDA DRILL DOWN. BUT IT JUST SEEMED VERY DISPROPORTIONATE AND I UNDERSTAND TREE FUND INCREASE NOW THAT UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW THAT NUMBER'S ARRIVED AT IT STILL ISN'T ADDING UP IN MY MIND SO MAYBE WE COULD MEET OR YOU CAN SEND ME A MEMO WHICH EVER CITY MANAGER WOULD PREFER, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE BEFORE OUR BUDGET OR A SIGH. WE'LL BRING IT UP THANK YOU. >> I ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER, LANGDON YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HOPE WILL BE QUICK. >> ONE PROPOSAL DETAIL, 56 OF THE BIG BINDER. WHICH IS. IN THE STRAIT OF SERVICE NATIONALISTS TERM ENDING. I WAS KIND OF COPING WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A SELLOUT. >> THAT WE WOULDN'T MADE ANY WATER RESOURCES SAID THE PERMITTING AREA AND YOU SORT OF EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WE NEED POSITION SO PRIOR ADMINISTRATION SERVICES SPECIALS HANDLE A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS EVERYTHING FROM MUNDANE OR OFFICE SUPPLIES TO ART. ALL SAYS THE ARTISTS ORDERS AND INVOICES AND TRAVEL KOPPEL >> ALL SORTS OF THINGS. SO >> THE DEPARTMENT GROWS THE NEEDS FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE. SO THIS IS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING AND WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES PEOPLE THEY PRIMARILY WORKING THAT ALONG WITH FINANCE THEM. THEY THEY HANDLES HR STAFF HANDLE A WIDE VARIETY OF ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION, IT'S NOT JUST TOUCHING THE PERMIT THEY DON'T THE PERMITS AT SUPPORT. >> ALL THE PEOPLE THE PERMIT BUT THE PART GOT IT. >> AND MY MY FINAL >> THE CITY PROVIDES THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF SARASOTA COUNTY. >> PER CAPITA AMOUNT WHERE IS THAT BUDGET. SO AND THE BIG BOOK I'M SEEING IN TRIPLICATE AFTER A DAY AND HALF OF THAT MEMBERSHIP LET ME LET ME JUST SORT OF SAY WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP. >> AT A RECENT MEETING THE SARASOTA COUNTY COMMISSION. >> IS. >> DISCONTINUING THE BUSINESS TAX. >> ALTHOUGH EVERYONE WAS HAPPY TO PAY AT BECAUSE OF THE VALUE WE GET FROM THAT ORGANIZATION. OTHER IS SMARTER THAN ME CAN FIGURE THAT ONE OUT. MY CONCERN IS THIS THE BUSINESS TAX PROVIDED 2025% OF THE EDC AND I'M CONCERNED. >> ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT. >> I MEAN THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR TRYING TO YOU KNOW REPLACE SOME OF THAT FUNDING THROUGH OTHER MEANS BUT SO THE NEXT YEAR AT 2 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GAP. I'M CONCERNED THE IMPACT OF THOSE CUTS ON CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS. AND I. I WOULD REALLY REQUEST THAT YOU TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET. THE I THINK THE CITY NEEDS OF ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THE CITY OF NORTH PORT RECEIVES THE MOST BENEFIT THESE DAYS. >> FROM THAT ORGANIZATION. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE PREPARED. >> OP THAT DOLLAR PER CAPITA MOM TO HELP FUND. >> THE EDC SUGGESTION NUMBER ONE. >> SUGGESTION NUMBER 2. >> THEY PAY. >> FOR MOST ARE ALL. >> EXHIBIT SPACE ETC CETERA AT CERTAIN EVENTS AND AND THAT KIND OF THING IF. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT PROGRAMS AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. AND THE CITY HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THOSE PROGRAMS. WE MIGHT HAVE TO UP OUR PROGRAM BUDGET FOR ECONOMIC. I'M JUST I'M REALLY CONCERNED THE THAT DECISION ON THE PART OF THE COUNTY ON OUR OWN CITY WE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT OUR INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT TO SEE AND INCREASE THE FUNDING WITHOUT AMENDMENT TODAY. >> IN OUR LOCAL SINCE IT'S BASED ON PER CAPITA. ADDITIONALLY. THINGS LIKE INBOUND MISSIONS WE DO HAVE MONEY SO THAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE INBOUND MISSION. ACTIVITIES EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDING IN THIS YEAR FOR DO WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO GO IT ALONE THAT'S THE EDC PULLS OUT THINK WEEK AND A POUCH IS GOING PUT A I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO REPRIORITIZE HALF. >> WE WOULD LOOK AT RAMS FALL OF TIMES IF THAT HAPPENS. >> IF IT DOES I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE. THIS YEAR THEY THEY SAY THEY HAVE A PLAN TO GET THEM THROUGH IT. WE ARE ALSO HOUR. WORK WITH THE EDC I WILL TELL YOU THAT ALL OF OUR BUSINESS EXPANSION ATTENTION MEETINGS WE ARE NOW INVITING THE EDC STAFF SO THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY'RE ABLE TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS. THEY'RE ABLE TO GET TO KNOW OUR BUSINESS IS ON ONE TO ONE. TO HELP OUR BUSINESSES UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE AND THE VALUE OF THE EDC AND THAT'S IN AN EFFORT TO HELP THEIR PRIVATE FUNDRAISING EFFORT, IT'S GOOD SENSE THAT MONEY IS NO LONGER COMING FROM A BUSINESS THAT. >> BUT THANK YOU I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND ONE LAST THING A COMMENT ON THE INCENTIVES. $50,000 IS NOT ENOUGH. WE WOULD NEVER USE THAT MONEY EVEN IF WE HAD MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TRY TO ATTRACT A BUSINESS LIKE COSTCO CHEST WOULDN'T HAPPEN. BUT I'LL TELL YOU I'M HONEST ALL THE TIME WHY A SORRY STORIES AND HERE IN THE CITY OR WHY A CERTAIN RESTAURANT ISN'T HERE IN THE CITY AND A LOT OF THOSE ARE MORE REGIONAL IN NATURE. ONE THAT I'M FAMILIAR DOES NOT HAVE AND THEIR BUSINESS MODEL BUILDING A BUILDING. THEY TEND TO MOVE INTO EXISTING BUILDINGS. WE WANT THEM HERE WE HAVE NO BUILDINGS FOR THEM TO MOVE INTO. SO IN THOSE KINDS OF SPECIFIC SITUATIONS WHERE ON THE PART OF THE TAX PAYERS I'VE PERCEIVED HIGH LEVEL OF INTEREST AND DEMAND BUT THAT ENTITY HERE IN THE CITY. AND WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEIR NORMAL OPERATIONS SUPPORT. WE SHOULD BE IN THE POSITION OF CONSENTING TO A MODEST LEVEL TO SHOW GOOD SAFE. I THINK IF WE USE THAT MONEY WISELY AND THE RIGHT INSTANCES, THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE US SPEND THAT MONEY IN THAT WAY. I AM DONE. YES, YES, WE SAID ONE ROUND AND NOW I HAVE 2 PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE AGAIN. >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YEAH, I WILL BE QUICK BECAUSE SHE BROUGHT COMMISSIONER LANGDON BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE EDC. >> THE EDC THE COUNTY LOCAL BUSINESS TAX HAS A REVENUE PAGE, ONE OF $20,000. THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO COME OFF I AM NOT HEARING ANY CHATTER FROM THE COUNTY AS FAR AS THEM REVISITING THERE IDEAS OF REINSTATING THEIR PREVIOUS DIRECTION OF MOVING. BUSINESS TAX. BUT YET WE HAVE THE COUNTY LOCAL BUSINESS TAX $20,000 IN REVENUE SIDE. I TOO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY POINT OUT. $22 TO A BUSINESS. TO HAVE THAT BENEFIT JUST BLOWS MY MIND. THAT THEY WOULD REMOVE THAT ENTIRELY. I THINK THAT WHILE THE EDC CORPORATION IS RE IS PIVOTING TO ADDRESS THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING REALLY BE ABLE TO HELP THE CITY. YOU KNOW THEIR THEIR FOCUS IS RIGHTFULLY SO ON RE-IMAGINING WHAT THEIR ROLE IS GOING TO BE. 86 $81,000 THAT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET. >> DO WE PAY HOW DOES THIS WALK AS FAR AS THEM FULFILLING THEIR OBLIGATIONS BY THE INNER LOCAL OR IS THE INNER LOCAL GOING TO BE HAVE TO BE CHANGED I JUST. IT'S WE PAY THIS MONEY AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THE FULFILLMENT OF THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU MAY AS WELL TAKE $81,000 THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR THE CITY TOO. REFOCUS AND RE IMAGINE WHAT THE CITY'S YOU DO SEE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IT IS ONE BIG HUGE QUESTION MARK WITH THIS NEW THING WITH THE COUNTY AND. >> OKAY IF I MAY I CAN SAY THAT. >> EVEN WITH THE. >> RECENT OPTION OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION. WE HAD WE HAVE TALKED MULTIPLE TIMES WITH LEADERSHIP. SINCE THEN. THEY ARE REMAIN VERY COMMITTED TO PORT. THEY HAVE STAYED TOWN NORTH PORT THEIR GROWTH AREA. >> THEY RECOGNIZE THAT IS AND THEY ARE COMMITTED. >> TO ENSURING THAT MORE PORT HAS THE RESOURCES FROM THE ATC THAT WE NEED THEY DO HAVE RESOURCES THEY CAN TAP INTO THAT WEED OUT. AS AN THE FPL FOR SITES PROGRAM THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR US WHERE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO. THEY ARE THEY HAVE OTHER AVENUES THAT THEY CAN DEPLOY FOR ON THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO AND THEY REMAIN TOUCH COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES UNTIL WE HEAR OR SEE THAT THEY DO IT. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO MAINTAIN THAT CLOSE RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE WE FROM FROM VERY CLOSE LEVEL WE DO SEE. VALUE AND WE SEE THERE. COMMITMENT THAT THEIR TOP LEADERSHIP HAS EXPRESSED TOO. ALL OF US WITHIN THE LAST WEEK. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT REASSURANCE BECAUSE THAT WAS THAT'S NEW INFORMATION THAT HAS NOT BEEN SHARED WITH ME SO I DO APPRECIATE I KNOW WE WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS WITH THE EDC CORPORATION AND I REALLY FEEL THESE PAST COUPLE YEARS THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BACK ON SOLID GROUND IN SOLID FOOTING SO I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT WITH ME. I JUST THINK THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE THAT $20,000 OUT OF THE BUDGET SINCE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE. >> SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND PLEASE ADVISE IF YOU NEED A CONSENSUS, HAPPY TO GET FOR YOU. THAT'S ALL I AM OKAY. >> I YEAH, I'LL BE YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT OUR CITY SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE IT IS SEE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. YOU KNOW. >> NOT TO REHASH THE HISTORY OF WHAT WENT ON. THE COUNTIES LACK OF SUPPORT FOR THE EDC THINGS CHANGE AND DRIVING FORCE WILL BE OUT OFFICE VERY SHORTLY KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE BRINGS. I WOULD SAY THAT WITH THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT THE COUNTY EDC HAS GIVEN OUR CITY. I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING PRETTY MUCH WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT A SCHOOL BEEN ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES OUR CHAMBER AND OUTSIDE CHAMBER THROUGHOUT PORT TO SUPPORT THE EDC AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND PUT THEIR DOLLARS WHERE THEIR MOUTHS ARE AND SUPPORT THIS GROUP. THESE PEOPLE. OUR TOP NOTCH AND THEY PROVIDE TREMENDOUS RESOURCE TO SPECIALLY US SO. ALL MALL AND ON DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP THEM OUT. OKAY THAT BEING NICE TO GO TO LUNCH ALL RIGHT 45 MINUTES AFTER THIS LAND TO AGAIN RIGHT WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY TOO. >> WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FULL 30 MINUTES. 30 SO LET'S DO THAT AT ONE 45 COMEBACK 46 AND WE'RE BACK. GOING OVER OUR. BUDGET PROCEEDINGS AND WE'RE ON TO ITEM PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT 24 DASH 0, 8, 7, ♪ MANAGER THIS THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR OF THIS IS OUR I DON'T THE APARTMENT BEFORE WE GET TO SEE IT TONIGHT SOUTH. >> PUBLIC WORKS FOR THEIR PATIENTS. ALRIGHT PUBLIC WORKS FISCAL YEAR 25 RECOMMENDED YOU'LL NOTICE THEY HAVE MULTIPLE VERY ARE LIVE. BUT AS GO THROUGH TOTAL BOTH POSITIONS HE CAN FOR NEW POSITIONS. ONE OF PROJECT COORDINATOR SECURITY GUARD TO A PART-TIME SECURITY GUARD. AS WELL I BELIEVE THAT'S AND SECURITY. THE PROJECT COORDINATORS LETS IT IT. IS THE WEEK. DIVISION POINT TOTAL PHYSICIANS PATIENTS. ACQUISITIONS STAFF KNOW GOING RATE IS DISTRICT ON. THIS AND IF I WENT PUBLIC WORKS. ROAD AND DRAINAGE TO DO IT ONE ALL RIGHT THIS WOULD PASS OUR SOLID DIVISION THE 51 TOTAL FOR ALWAYS OPERATOR AS WELL AS. ALL WITH WHAT. ALRIGHT PUBLIC WORKS KILLER THEY COVER A LOT SAFE COMMUNITY FROM THE PHYSICAL SECURITY OF CITY NOT REASONS. >> ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES 7 CITY GATEWAY IN TREE TEACHERS BASE RIVAL REPORT. >> IS ABILITY ONE NOT PATIENTS ARE. KURDS CONSULTATIONS THAT ABILITY WHAT A QUALITY TESTING CYCLING CETERA. FOLKS ARE CITY'S INTEGRITY PRIORITY, ONE PER IT TAKE WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES IS ORDERED TO PAY SAYS AS WELL AS PRIOR TO 2. WE HAVE WAY BRIDGE IS GOING TO WELL SURE. FOR IN A SAFE RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION WORK. THEY ALSO TAKE AWAY MOST OF THE OTHER PRIORITIES IN STRUCTURE SO THEY NEED TAKE YOUR ID AS SO ON A AND THEY ARE DATA DRIVEN ORGANIZATION THAT YOU ALL OF THEIR MAKE WHEN THEY START TO THE 9 TO 5% OF THEIR PART MAKE THE JOBS. LAST YEAR THEY WERE AT 92 THIS YEAR, EXPECTING TO BE A 100% THEY HAVE A TARGET GOAL OF 97%. IS WHAT THEY WANT TO COME CLEAN OF THEIR THINGS WERE COURSE WITHIN 10 BUSINESS DAYS. LAST YEAR 76% COMPLETION RATE 80% IS WHAT THEY PUT IT THIS YEAR 85 IS THEIR GOAL FOR NEXT YEAR. GOING THEY WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO 95% OF CUSTOMER REQUESTS FOR SERVICE DAYS. NEED PERCENT WAS THERE. ACTUAL FOR LAST THIS YEAR. IS A TARGET FOR NEXT. A SOLID WASTE THERE LIKE A COUPLE MINIMAL ELECTIONS PER WEEK. AND HOST LEAST HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION IT. IT WASN'T GOING VERY WELL AND THEY HAD TO LAST YEAR. BUT TO THIS BUDGET MAKE SURE. YOU LOOK AT THEIR OVERALL BUDGET SUMMARY YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN COUNTRY'S FIRST 3.2 MILLION DOLLARS. DEBT IS IT 2.4 MILLION DOLLARS CREATES 86 MILLION DOLLARS. THE CAPITAL. 20.2 MILLION DOLLARS OPERATING COSTS OR 30.8 MILLION DOLLARS OFF. ARE 2 MILLION DOLLARS. ON THE BUDGET PROPOSALS THAT WERE INCLUDED WITH BUT KIND OF YOU ARE OF THE POSITIONS THAT JUST PREFERENCE, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE FAMILY SERVICE. SO WE HAVE TO EXPIRE BEGINNING OF THE MORNING WHEN I SAY THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS STORED BACK TO DEPARTMENT BASED ON THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE I WE DISPERSED MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. IN ADDITION TO THESE POSITIONS THAT WE REFERENCED SELL IT IS INCLUDED IN BUDGET THAT LEFT AND CAPITAL MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT. GOLDEN BOY IMAGE IN ADDITION TO THEIR POSITION HAVE A CITY PAVILLION REPLACEMENT OUT OF THE ARE THE DISTRICT ON ALSO CAPITAL MACHINERY ARE INDEED $142,000. THE CAPITOL MISSIONARY EQUIPMENT OR 2.2 MILLION DOLLARS. IN ADDITION IT. THEY ALSO HAVE SOFTWARE OF US. I ALWAYS JUST A CLICK FOR $7,000 AND THEY'RE NOT FOR CAPITAL AND EQUIPMENT IS 1.8 MILLION DOLLARS. ITEM NOT ON WITHIN HIS BUDGET ONE MORGAN LIGHT, A $15,000 IN CAPITAL PUSH IT. I'M 60 $1000. GOING TALK ABOUT IT. MISTER WANT PROVIDE SORT OF INSTRUCTION PRIOR TO QUESTION IT'S BEEN JUST HAVE A LOT GOING ON A LOT INFORMATION SO WE HAVE THING >> THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR I JUST WOULD LIKE THANK COMMISSION ALSO MY TEAM. SINCE THE HURRICANE MOST OF THESE MANAGERS HAVE WORKED IN DIVISIONS VERY HARD TO TRY TO BRING THE CITY BACK ONLINE AND DO IT WITH RESTRICTED BUDGETS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY RED RUNNING TRYING TO REBUILD ITS FUND >> WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL THAT WAS SHORT SWEET. >> WE'LL GET A HERE THAT'S >> RIGHT ON QUESTIONS COMMENTS. VICE >> WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOU AND YOU ARE UNSUNG HEROES DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH. EARLY TELL YOU CITY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO. REALLY JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION NUMBERS JUST JUMPED RIGHT OUT AT ME IN FLEET MANAGEMENT ROAD DRAINAGE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE. REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS NUMBERS YEAR OR YEAR HAVE JUMPED LIKE FLEET FOR MILLION UP ROAD DRAINAGE 2.3 MILLION FACILITIES MEANS I MISSING SOMETHING. LIKE IS THERE. I MEAN I'M LOOKING TO SERIOUS YEAR FROM LATE. 24 RECOMMEND A 25 HUGE. INCREASES ONE 2ND TO LOOK AT PAGERS DETAILS WHAT LOOK AT BIG BOOK LIKE PAGE ONE 56. WITH EXCUSE ME FOR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE DIVISION. BERTHA MADE LAST YEAR WORDS FLY 24. 6.85 201.6 6 2 MILLION. YOU'VE GOT FIND THE SAME THING TAKE ROAD PAGE ONE 64 FOOT 3.8 MILLION GOING TO 6.1 MILLION. I WAS JUST LIKE MUST BE SOMETHING THERE MOVED AROUND OR MATTER. LEICESTER MISTAKE. WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE LOCATING WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE BIG H ONE 56. IT'S A SPECIFIC CATEGORY YOU'RE LOOKING AT BOOKS ARE. LOOKING AT THE RADY AFTER POSITIONS THEIR CHART. I POSITIONS THERE'S PUBLIC WORKS. IT'S TOUGH LEGIT BUDGET ANALYSIS. PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES MAINTENANCE DIVISION BUDGET ANALYSIS. GOT OLDER. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES OR DID YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC GOAL SPECIFICALLY REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE LIKE THANK NUMBER THANK YOU YET. IT LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THOSE 3 CATEGORIES OF FLEET MANAGEMENT AND THEN ROAD AND DRAINAGE AND THEN FACILITIES MAINTENANCE LIKE. IN OFFICE. REALLY ALMOST 4 MILLION OVER PRIOR YEAR FROM LOT OF THINGS GREAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT. A SECURE THEY YOU KNOW YOU KNOW >> I'M NOT AND YOU ESPECIALLY AS YOU SEE >> BUT IT IS JUST ASTRONOMICAL NUMBERS, YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE I SIGNIFICANT CAUGHT MY YOU KNOW, YES. CAN IT GO. >> THAT INCLUDES I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THAT INCLUDES THERE. THAT'S GOING TO BE BUT THE ENTIRE 46 LIVES WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YOUVE GOT REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. OFFICE EQUIPMENT YOU HAVE THE PERMITS OF VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT. WHICH IS ANNUAL PAIRS EQUIPMENT SAFETY INSPECTIONS, YOUR SYSTEM ADJUSTMENTS REPAIRS REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE A WEEK WHICH IS OUTSOURCED WHICH OUTSOURCED REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE OF SKYROCKETED. WE HAVE LOOK LIKE ABOUT SO THAT LINE INCLUDES A LOT OF. YEAH THINGS THAT WE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF THEY'RE MORE MARKET CONTROL. >> YEAH, I MEAN YOU KNOW ACTUALLY I MEAN IT MEANS A LITTLE E-MAIL QUESTION I SEE LIKE GO TO THE PRIOR YEAR 2023 AT THE NUMBERS WERE WAY UP 24 LAST YEAR YOU REALLY TIGHT DOWN BUDGET PROBABLY LEFT A LOT ON THE TABLE BUT IT'S JUST IT'S JUST JOB P THERE WERE JUST SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE THIS YEAR AFTER YEAR, BUT MEAN I KNOW THINGS GOT YOU I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NOTHING REALLY WEIRD OUT OF THE ORDINARY WE WEREN'T AWARE TO GET >> YEAH AND THAT DOCUMENT IF I COULD JUST TOUCH ON THAT AGAIN THAT THAT DOCUMENT YOU'RE USING IS KIND OF A SUMMARY OF ALL THOSE LINES, YEAH AND SO IT'S HARD FOR US WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE CLOSE ACCOUNT THE THINGS MADE >> OKAY GOOD YEAH, OKAY, COMMISSIONER I HAVE A BUNCH OF THINGS BUT MOSTLY ON DO YOU WANT US TO DO THOSE NOW OUR WAY TO GET AS IT'S JUST IF YOU WANT GENERAL COMMENT JUST QUICK. WE HAD WAS THAT THE CIP ALSO I HOLD ALL OF THESE ARE CI YOUR SO ASKED WHY THAT WAS FAST RIGHT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TOUCH. >> BUDGET PROPOSAL 2654 FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL TECHNICIAN. THAT TECHNICIAN CAN REQUIRE VEHICLE CAUSE I COULDN'T FIND IT. >> I BELIEVE THAT WAS GOING USE TO REPURPOSE VEHICLE. THERE WOULDN'T BE A VEHICLE IN THIS BUDGET FOR MISSION. LOVE >> ALL RIGHT THE SAME BUDGET PROPOSAL. WHEN YOU LOOK IN TOTAL UP THE GOVERNMENT ACTS BREAKDOWNS EMPLOYEE SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND THEN YOU. 2 STARTING OCTOBER 1ST. THE NUMBERS AREN'T ADDING IT SAYS HERE. IF IT'S AN OCTOBER 1ST START DATE THAT THE SALARY AND BENEFIT SHOULD BE 58,800 WHEN YOU ADD UP GOV MAX IT'S LIKE. 20 42,000. AND I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE INSTEAD OF STARTING OCTOBER FIRST, IT'S ACTUALLY LIKE A JANUARY FIRST OR MARCH 3RD MARCH 1ST. BUT IT CAN'T COUNT TOWARDS MY >> PUT THE GOOD TO GET A FREE PASS MISSION HELP DOUBLE CHECK THOSE NUMBERS BUT THAT ONE IS SLATED FOR OCTOBER 1ST. A START DATE. WILL CONFIRM THAT THOSE NUMBERS FOR BENEFITS ARE INCLUDED. APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THE BOWS. >> I THOUGHT THE GOAL WAS TO GET RID OF BUSY BOTH BECAUSE OF THE. >> ISSUES THAT ARISE FROM THEM. >> AND I'M CURIOUS WHY ARE WE REPLACING ONE. >> I'VE NEVER BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION TO DO AWAY WITH THEM WE'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE GAZEBO IS TO MAKE THEM. >> A MORE OPEN. LEAVE IT AT THAT. WELL WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION NOT. >> GET RID OF WHAT IT REMINDED ME OF THAT. >> AND I KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE A DUAL PURPOSE IS OVER AT THE SENIOR CENTER THERE WAS A GAZEBO AND IT WAS A 2 FOR REASON HAS TO GET RID OF IT ONE WE INCREASE THE PARKING INTO BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE GAZEBO CREATED SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GAZEBO IS NOT CREATING ISSUES. WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO REPLACE IT, I'M. >> IT'S THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT PROVIDES THE SHAPE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALONG SOME OF THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE'S NOT MUCH SHAPE. SO. DEAL WITH ANY ISSUES THAT WE MAY HAVE AS THEY ARISE. BUT WE HAVE NO INTENTION UNLESS SOMEONE GIVES US DIRECTION TO NOT PLACE BECAUSE THE BOAT OR NOT. PROVIDE THAT SHADE. >> HOW WAS THE GAZEBO THAT'S WORKING OVER BY. I'M NOT TRYING TO THINK WITH THAT USED TO BE THE LUTHERAN CHURCH THERE'S A GAZEBO BACK THERE. BUT TO CHURCH USED TO BE REMOVED FREEDOM WHICH. THERE'S ONE QUESTIONS ON THE COAST GUARD WAS YOUR QUESTION. SO IS THAT BEEN REPURPOSED OR IS THAT ONE WILL BE SLATED NEXT YEAR. >> WE'RE DOING ONE BUSY BUT THIS YEAR AND PENSIONS DO WANT TO SEE YEAR ON LINE. >> OKAY SOLID WASTE YOU HAVE 2 EQUIPMENT OPERATORS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HIRE TO PICK UP TRASH. HOWEVER IF THEY'RE PICKING UP TRASH DON'T THEY NEED A TRASH TRUCK. I DIDN'T SEE ANY TRASH TRUCKS. SO HOW DO YOU HAVE. >> SO WE HAVE TRASH TRUCKS ALREADY ON THE WAY. WE HAVE 7 NEW TRUCKS COMING IN. >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS ARE TO BE READ USEFUL LIKE TRASH TRUCKS, WE HAVE SOME DAY. >> THAT'S BECAUSE THEY TAKE 2, 3, YEARS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN. COMMISSIONS BLESSING TO ORDER EARLY SO THEY ARRIVE WE NEED THE ACTUAL ROUTE TO START AND ONE WITH THE HIRING OF THIS. THERE'S CATCH UP. >> I REMEMBER THAT NOW THANK YOU. >> SO MAINTENANCE. >> I I AM. >> REALLY STRUGGLING. >> WITH. STAFFING 2 SECURITY OFFICERS. VERSUS THE CONSULTANT. ♪ ♪ >> I UNDERSTAND THAT IT LOOKS VERY NICE IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR THAT IT'S ONLY $28,000 BUT NEXT YEAR IT'S A FULL SALARY. I PART OF MY STRUGGLE IS. WHY WAS IT NOT LOOKED AT MORE CAREFULLY. WITH THE TRAINING AND CONTROL AND THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED. EXISTED PRIOR TO HIRING A CONSULTANT. YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAINING YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CONTROL. AND NOW YOU WANT TO DO AWAY WITH THE CONSULTANT AND THAT CONSULTANT CONTRACTED SERVICES. TO HIRE IN HOUSE WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST START IN >> THERE WAS AN AT THAT TIME STARTING HOUSE WE'VE TIME. THERE WAS AN APPETITE. HEAR FROM THE CITY. YOU START HOUSE WE WHAT WE ATTEMPTED THAT WITH SOME OTHER SERVICES AS WELL, YOU KNOW JANITORIAL DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH. AS THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ARMED SECURITY IN THE CITY. WE OPTED TO GO WITH A CONTRACTOR. WE'VE DONE THAT. >> NOW FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR MAYBE A LITTLE UNDER A YEAR. >> THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOES INCLUDE FULL SALARIES FOR THE MOST PART. THE OFFSETTING COSTS IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY ARE PAID SO YOU SEE THAT'S A LESS THAN $30,000. THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING ALL THE REST OF THAT MONEY TO THE CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE BUT LIKE AT >> WE'RE STARTING SOMETHING NEW OF THIS. THERE'S A CONTENTIOUS NATURE. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HIRE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. THE EVENT THAT YOU STOP DOING THAT PROGRAM. IT'S MUCH EASIER TO STOP A THIRD-PARTY SERVICE THAT IS THAT SAY GOODBYE PUBLICLY SO I DON'T THINK WE KNEW THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER DONE IT. SO I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE STAFF. RESPECT THEM A LOT OF SENSE TO. THOSE DON'T FULL PUBLIC >> WHY ARE YOU LOOKING TO HIRE 2 AND A HALF AND DIDN'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PURPOSE IS AND WHAT ARE THE HOURS THESE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE. >> SURE SO YOU NEED TO HAVE EMPLOYEES TO PROVIDE THE COVERAGE THAT WE HAVE NOW SO. ANOTHER IF I CAN TOUCH ON WHAT THAT THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED. WE WERE WE WERE AT THE POINT OF JUST BRING ON OUR SECURITY MANAGER. SO WE WANT OUR SECURITY MANAGED TO GET IN LINE. HE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED AND THEN MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION. 2 AND A HALF EMPLOYEES WILL GIVE US THE COVERAGE WE NEED THAT SOMEONE HAS A DAY OFF SOMEONE SIT THAT WE THANK YOU JUSTIN STEPS SECURITY HERE ON THE OTHER BENEFITS OF BRINGING IT IN-HOUSE. ♪ THE TIME OF OUR. CONTRACTED STAFF. SO WE END UP HERE LATE AT NIGHT WITH STAFF IN THE BUILDING. WELCOME NOW WITH NO SECURITY. THIS WILL GIVE US THE OPTION TO PROVIDE THAT COVERAGE ALSO GIVES US MORE CONTROL OVER THE. CALIBER OF. SECURITY PROFESSIONAL THAT WE HAVE ON HAND. DELICATELY. >> WE HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY HAVE A JOB I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A JOB BUT THEY ARE ALSO HERE FOR A COMMISSION MEETINGS. >> AND THEY DO NOT LEAVE I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY DO NOT LEAVE UNTIL EVERYBODY IS OUT OF THE BUILDING. >> IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CALIBER. THEY'RE SITTING IN THIS ROOM. >> AND I I. >> I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW. PAID STAFF. GOING TO GIVE YOU THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE PAID SECURITY GUARDS HERE UNTIL MUCH EVERYBODY SIDE OF THE BUILDING AT 6 THERE'S NO MEETINGS THERE'S NO ADVISORY BOARDS NOTHING HERE TOOK UNTIL 10. I'M I'M I'M WE'RE NOT GETTING THE THINGS THAT I THINK WHAT YOUR GOAL IS. AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT IT'S GOING TO CHANGE BASED ON THE ANSWERS, I'VE GOT MY 7.30 TO 10 MONDAY THROUGH HALF OF PERSON TO COVER WHEN SOMEBODY SICK. SHE DON'T LIKE THE STAFF THAT THEY PROVIDED PROBABLY NEED TO TELL THEM AND GET DIFFERENT STAFF I. I THAT'S WORKS. I JUST. HAVING ARMED SECURITY GUARDS THAT ARE NOT NICE OFFICERS JUST DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME. SO IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT'S NOT STORE OF SOME KIND, IT'S NOT THE THIS IS A CITY HALL. AND AND APPRECIATING THAT BUT I WILL MOVE ON. >> THE MORGAN CENTER LIKE THIS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. I KNOW IT'S NOT FUNDED BUT SINCE WE'RE REPLACING THE ROOF AND STUFF AND THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE WATER INTRUSION OVER AT THE MORGAN CENTER. WHERE THOSE LIGHTS COMPROMISE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ULTIMATELY REPLACE THEM ANYWAYS. >> UP MY KNOWLEDGE, >> THE. >> LAST THING I WANT TO BRING UP. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF DISCUSSION ON IT IS THAT PILEUP I LAUGH. >> YOU HE LEFT WELL CAN EAT MUCH MUCH EASIER THAN NEW FEE. THAT IS GOING TO BE CHARGED TO THE RESIDENTS FOR THE GENERAL FUND. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND. >> HOW. >> HOW DOES. SOLID WASTE USED THE RIGHT OF WAY. THAT WOULD LET ME KIND OF BECOME FACT IF YOU NOW DO GO THAT WILL BE PART OF HIS. >> YOU. >> I WORKED A LOT OF DIFFERENT IT'S FOR ME TO HEAR CALL MOST OF THESE. A PRIVATE CONTRACT. MOST OF THESE OF THESE ARE PRIVATE CONTRACTOR ALWAYS COLLECTION. THEY ALSO CHARGE A FRANCHISE FEE. >> WE HAVE THE WORLD'S BEST ALWAYS CLUTCH. WE DO IT IN HOUSE. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SELF-DETERMINATION LOT THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT BENEFIT. I WANT THE CAUSE OF THAT IS THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE WE DON'T DO BECAUSE. SO THIS WOULD BE A PAYMENT LOVE OF FRANCHISE FEE. SO THAT IS. HOW YOU KNOW FRANCHISE FEE FRANCHISE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO GIVE EXCLUSIVITY TO ONE PARTICULAR VENDOR IN ORDER FOR THEM HAVE THE EXCLUSIVE. THEY PAY A PORTION OF THEIR GROSS SALES, READ BACK TO THE CITY WE DO THAT HOUSE WE DON'T IT'S NOT PROBABLY DOES. WE VISIT A NEW REVENUE SOURCE BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. THAT IS EQUIVALENT WHO WHAT A FRANCHISE FEE SYSTEM WOULD BE YOU HAD A ALWAYS CUT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> SO HOW DOES SOLID WASTE USED THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR PICKING UP TRASH. >> IS IT IT'S IT'S. THEY'RE SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT WAY SO WHAT WHAT RIGHT AWAY ARE THEY USING YEAH TRASH THAT WILL BE FOR PRIVATE CUP. >> COMPANIES THAT THE I MEAN IT'S. IT WOULD BE GUARDED THE PRIVATE COMPANY WOULD USE. YOU OR THAT **** UP YOU OFF. YOU IS JUST WAY TO CHARGE POLITICAL THIS CASE CAN'T DO IT FOR GOVERNMENT PROVIDE SERVICE. >> AND SO IT'S A SAFE THAT YOU HAVE A SIMILARLY. >> AS PART OF FOUR-YEAR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WAR. >> THE WATER LINES ARE IN THE WATER AND THE RIGHT AWAY. THERE'S A NEW KIND OF GOING STILL >> THE. >> COMMERCIAL. >> YOU CAN SAY WHAT THINK ABOUT THE USE. GOT YOU'VE GOT ALWAYS PEOPLE'S PROBLEM OVERALL. >> RIGHT BUT I PAY TAXES ALREADY FOR THE >> SO DOES BUSINESS. TO USE THE ROADS. WHETHER THAT BE A SOLID WASTE RECORD MY PLUMBING COMPANY THAT COMES IN YEAR SINCE THE ROADS. >> SO SORRY IT'S NOT GOING TO HOLD WATER WITH ME WITH THE CITY WATER AND SEWER LINES AROUND BUT. >> AND YOU KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM. I UNDERSTAND I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE PILOT PROFUGO ALL RIGHT BUT SO USING THAT. COMMERCIAL THE COMMERCIAL IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. THOSE THOSE BINS ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THOSE BUSINESSES ALREADY PAY TAXES. FOR THE ROADS. SO HOW DO WE JUSTIFY WHY YOU'RE CHARGING 20% FOR THE BUSINESSES. >> THERE'S NO. THERE'S NO PART OF MATCH. IT WASN'T LOT OF PLACES DIFFERENT ROLE, THEY CHARGE WHAT. >> THEY HAVE BEEN HOUSE TRASH PICKUP. DON'T KNOW HIM, I THINK WE ARE CHARGED TO COME UP WITH UNIQUE. GROUNDBREAKING REVENUE STREAMS OF TIMES IN ORDER TO STABILIZE FUND ME AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS WE'RE DOING. >> AS WITH MILK. BUT YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY IS YOU'RE JUST NOT CALLING IT A MILEAGE THAT'S ALL YOU WANT TO THAT. I I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS OBVIOUSLY I THE I THINK YOU DID I THINK EVERYBODY IN ON THAT. I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE SOLID WASTE WE'RE PICKING UP TRASH FOR SOLID WASTE SHOULD BE FOR SOLID WASTE. THIS IS NOT HELPING THEM PICK UP TRASH THIS IS HELPING THE GENERAL FUNDS BE STABILIZED. THERE WAS A MEMO THAT CAME OUT REGARDING A LOT. >> THE REGISTRATION. >> PROGRAM GOT A MEMO WE RESPECT STOP ABOUT IT. I WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT IT OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S BECOME BEFORE COMMISSION FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION. >> WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. OKAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT. >> TALKING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS RIGHT NOW. >> I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS GOING HAPPEN >> YOU KNOW NOT A LOT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WORK OF THE AND SORRY I THOUGHT THAT'S WHO HANDLES THE. >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHO HANDLE THAT SORRY WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AT ANOTHER TIME. ALL AT POINT. IT. >> IN THE AGE TO ME FOR SOLID WASTE. >> THIS ASSESSMENT REVENUE INCREASED BY 20% FOR RESIDENTIAL. 10% I WOULD ASSUME IS FOR THE TO PILAF RICE PILAF. WHAT IS THE OTHER 10%. >> AND THEN ONE MORE THING WITH THE PEEL THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE. COLLECTED FOR THE P LAW FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. >> WAS LESS. >> THEN WHAT IS BEING PAID TO THE GENERAL FUND. >> IF THESE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT SO SO THAT IS COMING MY QUESTION IS CONTINGENT ON THIS ANSWER. >> BECAUSE >> RAMP FOR COMMERCIAL. IT SAID THAT THE INCREASE WOULD BE 512. WHEN YOU DO REVENUE. AND THEN RESIDENTIAL WAS 1 MILLION 3 34,000 FISH. IT'S SHORT OF WHAT'S BEING PAID INTO THE GENERAL FUND. I. HOPE SOMEBODY A LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE NUMBERS BUT DEFINITELY THE ASSESSMENT INCREASE >> RESIDENTIAL. >> THIS MAN SO AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH. FINANCE JUST TO ALIGN THOSE NUMBERS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT YOU OFTEN IS IN EFFECT A PARADE. WE WON'T BE A PAYMENT. MORE THAN WHAT IS COLLECTED ON THAT 10%. WE'RE TRYING BREAK BANK HAS HIS EYES ON IT. AND HE WILL. IMPACT OPERATING. IF THIS IF THE. IF THE. 10% INCREASE IN THE 20% INCREASE OR NOT. WILL THERE CANNOT BE A WE DO NOT HAVE THAT ANYWHERE. YEAH. >> SO IF PEEL OFF IS INCREASE THE COMMERCIAL COLLECTION REVENUE BY 20%. WHAT ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS THAT HAVE COME ONLINE TO 12. SO THAT THAT WILL AND THAT SCENE IN HERE EITHER. >> RIGHT THESE ARE PROJECTIONS COMMERCIAL WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR THE THOSE THOSE NUMBERS PROJECT ESTIMATE OF WHAT THOSE THAT PAYMENT WILL BE ABOUT THAT NUMBER WILL LOOK LIKE BUT IT WILL BE SHORED UP TO ACTION. >> I UNDERSTAND AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS APPLY MERRY BUDGET. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I SORRY I KIND OF HAVE THE EXPECTATION THAT THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE NOT 100% ACCURATE. BUT REFLECT THE TOTAL PICTURE. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND HEARING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PEEL OFF IN THE SECURITY FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. >> OK, I'M COMMISSIONER EMRICH ALL FUTURE THAT YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ARE ASKED. >> I'M NOT I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR PROPOSAL SINCE MOST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING OUT OF DISTRICT FEES. YOU KNOW THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED YOU DO THEIR DAILY I'VE GOT ALL ON THAT. GOING BACK TO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SECURITY ISSUES IN THE SECURITY GUARDS. I AM IN AWE FAVOR OF THAT HAVING THEM IN PLACE AND IT DOES. YES, WE HAVE POLICE BUT THEY HAVE OTHER GAMES AND THEY HAVE JOBS THAT THEY CAN BE CALLED OUT OF PALM. THESE ARE STATIONARY EMPLOYEES THEY'RE HERE FOR A PURPOSE. THEY'RE HERE FOR THE CHAMBERS. YOU KNOW ANYTHING COULD GO WRONG AND WE COULD LOSE THAT POLICE FORCE THAT IS OUR CONTINGENCY AT THAT TIME AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, SO YES I I I SUPPORT THAT. PEEL OFF SOME GOOD WITH THAT TOO SO THANK YOU. >> SO IT'S MY TURN AND YES I HAD MARKED DOWN THE SECURITY SERVICES AT CITY HALL ON. ACTUALLY I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND I WHOEVER WRITES THIS OUT TOO. GIVE KUDOS TO EVER RIGHT SEASONAL CLIENT BENEFITS AND STRATEGIC INITIATIVES THAT YOU INVITE CAN IT. >> YOU >> YOU KNOW IF IT'S CURRENTLY GOT SERVICES PROVIDED THE CONTRACT AND THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELECT TO RETAIN GUARDS OR TO ACTIVELY MANAGE THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE GUARDS OF 5. I THE CONTRACTOR. AND I DO KNOW HOW HOW THAT WORKS WHEN YOU DO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS CONTRACTED IN YOU PRETTY MUCH GET WHAT YOU GET I DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO HAVE. OUR OWN IN-HOUSE SECURITY GUARDS THAT WOULD BE SO I'M I'M GOOD WITH THAT THE OTHER ONE WAS THAT WAS STAR PAVILION ON US 41. AND I MISTER SPEAKE YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THAT OR SOMEBODY DID THAT IT'S THE ONLY RELIEF WE HAVE FROM THE I MENTIONED THIS MORNING ARE TREAT DISCUSSION THAT THERE'S NO SHADE ANYWHERE AND YOU CAN GO WALKING FROM NORTH PORT ALL THE WAY TO RIDE YOUR BIKE TO VENICE AND THERE'S NO SHADE ANYWHERE AND THAT'S WHAT THESE PAVILIONS DO AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY MAYBE ASSISTANT MANAGER. THIS I THINK THESE PAVILIONS CAME IN ON THE BEAUTIFICATION AND TREE COUNCIL SOMETIME AGO WHEN ONE TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY THESE IS THE BOWS AND PAVILIONS IN THE CITY IS THAT. >> RIGHT. YES MA'M YOUR CORRECT. YEAH, SO IN ADDITION WE BUILT THE GATEWAY SUMTER AND TOLEDO BLADE THEY HAD A GREAT IN TIMES WELL I THINK ON 41 AT ALL I IN FACT REMEMBER THAT WAS COMMISSIONER TOM WILLIAMSON WHO WAS A BIG PROPONENT PUTTING THOSE. >> BILLIONS AND YES, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WAS TO PROVIDE GATHERING PLACES OR TO HAVE IT HAVE A MORE HOMEY LOOKING ATMOSPHERE WHEN PEOPLE WERE DRIVING DOWN 41 BEFORE THAT IT WAS JUST VERY STARK AND THAT WOULD TRY TO TO LEND ITSELF ONE OF COMMUNITY. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THOSE AREAS OF BECOMING BLIGHTED THOSE GET THE BOAT AREAS TO PROVIDE. I'M SHANE AND REALLY FOR PEOPLE IN YES, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETIMES PEOPLE GO IN THERE THAT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE ANOTHER ONE ON OUR TREE WALK BUT I BECAME VERY FRIENDLY WITH SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WOULD HANG OUT THERE AND THEY'RE PEOPLE THEY'RE STILL JUST PEOPLE YOU KNOW, AND THERE WOULD BE OTHER PEOPLE HANGING OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY JUST WANTED TO WATCH THE CARS GO BY YOU WHAT THEY'RE ALL ABOUT AND THAT BLUE STAR WITH A IT HER BILLION THAT IS THE. ONE OF PAN AMERICAN CORRECT. YES, YEAH. AND THAT'S THE GOAL THAT THE ALABAMA GARDEN THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, RIGHT THEY DID THE LANDSCAPING OVER I THINK ALL AND THEY SPENT ALL THAT MONEY TO CLEAN THAT. SIGN RIGHT THAT TO REFURBISH THAT'S WHAT I WAS LIKE $5,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YES. I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM BEING REPLACED AND HAVING THEM BE PUT IN THERE IS THAT GOING TO BE THE SAME KIND THE SAME COMPANY AND I THINK IT WAS COMPANY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WILL BE THE SAME COMPANY WILL BE THE SAME STYLE OKAY BECAUSE I ALSO THAT NO ONES THAT CAME IN ON SUMTER THEY WORE WOODEN, CORRECT THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT MENTAL WE'LL LOOK AT THE MATERIALS WILL LIKELY BE A MEDAL MATERIAL >> REQUIRES LESS MAINTENANCE RIGHT OCCURRED STILL SO. WE'LL LOOK TO SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES LESS MAINTENANCE IS HARDER TO DEFEND THE LAWS. >> YEAH, YEAH AS I KNOW THEY ONE WAS LIKE THE ONE THAT REALLY WALK ALL THE BENCHES SLOWLY DISAPPEARED AS YOU CAN THERE AND I KNOW THAT ON PURPOSE, SO THEY WOULD HE WOULD SIT AND THERE BUT AGAIN PROVIDE SOME RELIEF FROM THE FROM THE RAIN AND THE SUN SO I'M ALL FOR OR AND THOSE WERE MY 2 BIG ISSUES THAT I HAD >> I'M GOOD WITH THAT. SO WE HAVE VICE MAYOR IN THE QUEUE AGAIN. >> JUST ONE QUESTION YOU KNOW WITH OR. IF YOU LOOKED AT YOU KNOW FROM FROM CITIZEN STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW THAT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS PEW OFTEN THE COST TO SOLID WASTE ON SUNDAY, HOW DO WE SIZE UP, YOU KNOW WE IT. MOST OTHER MUNICIPALITIES MOST EVERYWHERE ELSE CONTRACTS YOU KNOW. I KNOW THE COUNTY SEEN INCREASES SINO PROBABLY MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IF YOU HAVE TO YOU KNOW COMPARE US TO THEM COST TWICE, WHERE ARE WE SAYING WE LOWER WE HIRE I WOULD SAY WE'RE WE'RE. >> KIND IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT NOW CITY OF SARASOTA'S I ONE THAT WE KIND OF LOOK THAT. 347 64. IF WE IF WE GO THE ROUTE OF THE PEEL OFF AND THE INCREASE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 3 OH 2.50. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN. CORPORATE SARASOTA COUNTY THAT'S UP TO 60 OR RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST YOU KNOW THAT THEY ON THE INCREASE HERE IN THE NEXT. WE'RE GOING TO TO 64, BUT THERE. INCREASES ARE COMING AND AND THAT'S EVERYBODY'S FEELING THAT JUST BASED ON OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR WHEN PHIL AND >> AND CERTAINLY IF YOU COMPARE THE QUALITY OF SERVICE, IT'S NOT EVEN COMPARABLE SO IT'S CRISIS IS ROUGHLY EQUAL EVEN IF IT'S A FEW BUCKS MORE YOU KNOW. I DON'T KNOW AND ANYONE IS GOING TO HAVE FOR ANYONE SHOULD ISSUE BECAUSE ANYBODY WHO'S STILL WITH SOME OF THESE CONTRACT. COMPANIES IN NEWS AND LOOKED AROUND THE COUNTRY AND DEALT WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM ON A VARIETY OF LEVELS AND THEY RANGE FROM THEY HAD TO HARWOOD I COULD SAY THAT OUR GUYS LIKE BLOWS DOORS OFF. WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR WORKS AND YOU'RE YOU KNOW ITS OWN WAY SO I MEAN. I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE VALUE THEY GET THEIR MONEY, I'D LIKE TO THINK THEY DO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU TO VIDEOS. >> YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. IT HAS JUST OKAY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> ROAD AND DRAINAGE THEY FUND BALANCE IS SHOWING THE NEGATIVE 5720 11%. HOW ARE WE DOING ON GETTING THAT REPLENISHED. >> SO WE'RE WE'RE STILL WAITING REIMBURSEMENTS BUT WE ARE ON TRACK FOR ABOUT A WEB STORY ABOUT 1 MILLION DOLLARS FROM FEMA. BUT WE ARE ON TRACK WITH OUR PLAN AS OF NOW. >> SO THE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED OR THE CITY HAS RECEIVED IM NOT SURE HOW THAT FILTERS DOWN TO THE FUN. WHY IS THIS NUMBER STILL SO HIGH WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED A LOT OF SURE SO. >> RICHARD REYNA JUST DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THAT THAT DIDN'T COME WE ONLY HAD 5 MILLION OR SO IN THAT RESERVE. SO THAT WAS PULLED MONEY. THE POOLED FUNDS TO PAY THOSE. THOSE THOSE DEBRIS HAULERS SO THAT MONEY HAS TO BE PUT BACK IN PLACE FIRST. ALL RIGHT TAKE CARE OF THE ONES THAT WEREN'T PART THE FIRST. OF THE FUNDS THAT WE EXPENDED ACTUALLY OUT OF OUR COUNT. >> SO ALL OF THE POOLED ACCOUNT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT ALL OF THE OTHER ACCOUNTS HAVE BEEN >> I SET FOR R AND D I I WOULD SAY NOT ALL OF THEM JUST BASED ON THE NUMBERS FOR ABOUT 11 MILLION SHORT, WE WE DID START WITH 11 MILLION TO SPEND. A RESERVE. AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THAT, BUT I I SPEAK TO IT WE RISK YOU KNOW OUR FEMA REIMBURSEMENTS CONTINUE ON THE PATH THAT THEY'RE ON RIGHT NOW. BUT WE ARE IN LINE WITH OUR REPLACEMENT PLAN. ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO COMMISSION. >> I NEGLECTED TO TALK ABOUT SLEET. >> THERE'S >> 2 2 MONTHS. YEAH 2 LIGHT DUTY, LET'S. THAT ARE IN THIS PROPOSAL. IN FISCAL YEAR 23 WE APPROVED TO 2 OF THE EXACT SAME KIND OF LIFTS. SO NOW BEFORE LIFTS IN 2 YEARS. FOR YEARS. CAN IMPROVE MANAGER. >> WE DID HAVE ONE LIVE WITH IT LAST YEAR AND WE ARE REQUESTING IN AN ADDITIONAL LIFT THIS YEAR. SO FAR LIKE MECHANICS HAVE TO LIFT HER BANK. SO THIS WILL GIVE A 6 TOTAL IF WE GET THIS LIFT NEXT YEAR. >> WHEN I WENT BACK BECAUSE I WENT WE JUST DID THIS SO I WENT BACK IN THE BOOKS AND I SAW THAT WE APPROVED 2 OF THE SAME KIND OF LIFTS IN FISCAL YEAR 20 TO 23. SO WE PROVED ON THAT. AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR 2 MORE NO I I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT 2 DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIVES. SAME NUMBER. S P 0, ONE ISN'T IF I COULD JUST MENTIONED TAKES. 2 LIVES TO LIFT THE CAR RIGHT SO TOO WAS ONE SET. >> SO IT'S NOT THE WHOLE. LIVE TO MECHANISM. RIGHT TO LIST WITH ITS TO POST LET'S CORRECT THAT SOME POINT I WAS UNAWARE THAT SO FORGET MY QUESTION THEY DON'T THEY DON'T SELL THEM AT THE CENTER THEY THINK CAN BUY THEM SEPARATELY CASE, I GUESS ONE FAIL AND YOU CAN REPLACE WHAT UNDERSTAND NOW I UNDERSTAND NOW. GOING MORE IN-DEPTH TO FLEET. THANK YOU FOR ASSET LIST OF VEHICLES. ROUGHLY COUNTED 900 OR SO VEHICLES. IN TWENTY-TWENTY WE BARELY HAD AROUND 700. OUR MECHANICS OF ONLY INCREASED BY 3. WHEN ARE WE GOING IT'S MORE MECHANICS. >> IF YOU'RE INCREASING ALL THESE VEHICLES AND THAT'S EVEN COUNTING. >> THE SMALL EQUIPMENT ALIKE MOWERS AND STUFF THAT MECHANICS ALSO FIX. WHEN WE THINK IT'S MORE MECHANICS. >> CURRENTLY WITH MY CALCULATIONS EACH YEAR THAT I DO. DON'T THINK. WE ARE ON SPOT RIGHT NOW WHERE THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF LABOR THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR VEHICLES, I'M ON TIME RIGHT NOW NUMBER OF MECHANICS AND A HALF. WITH INCREASE OF NEW VEHICLES OBVIOUSLY NEW VEHICLES REQUIRE LESS MAINTENANCE. YEAH TOUGH WEEK CERTAINLY BEEN SOME MOTOR VEHICLES AND YES, I DO FORESEE WITH THE DISCUSSIONS WITH FIRE INCREASING SIZE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAYBE TEENS. VERY HONESTLY MANAGEMENT IS OUT OF SPACE IN THE GARAGE AND YEARS AGO THE FACILITY WAS BUILT WE HAD SPACE. WE HAVE NO I DON'T HAVE AN AVAILABLE NOW. MECHANICS. >> YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY VEHICLES THAT WERE PLANNING TO GET IN PLACE AND YES, I UNDERSTAND REPLACING OLD VEHICLES LESS MAINTENANCE BUT YOU STILL HAVE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO DO. ON THE NEW VEHICLES WHICH TAKES TIME FROM THE MECHANICS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT YOU KNOW MAYBE WE NEED TO ADD ONE MORE. BUT. >> IF YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GOOD THEN. >> OKAY IF I CAN JUST SPEAK THAT IF YOU NOTICE IN THE BUDGET FOR FLEET, THERE IS A STUDY LOOK AT THE EFFICIENCIES GUESS SOMETHING THAT THAT WILL KIND OF HELP US HOW TO TURN A LONG TERM AND FOR WHAT FUTURE MEETING THEY VERY SO I HAVE OKAY. THANK YOU. >> AND SEEING NOTHING ELSE HERE. SO DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SO TO MOVE OFF OF THIS PLACE, RIGHT SO THANK YOU PUBLIC WORKS THING YOU MOVE TO WHICH IS THE START OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION 24 DASH 0, 8, 7, CIP PUBLIC CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEMS. >> THANK YOU KNOW THINK THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT YOU AND THANK YOU FOR HERE FOR APPLE MIGHT BE YOU ARE WITH DEPARTMENT WE WILL GO TO ARE YOU TODAY. GIVE PUBLIC WORKS ARE CFB OVERVIEW YOU SEE THE TOTALS ARE PRODUCTS OF 230 MILLION DOLLARS WHEN 9 FOR THE OUT OF 36.3 MILLION DOLLARS. YOU LOOK AT THE AT CFP PROJECTS YOU'LL NOTICE THAT VOTING FOR DISTRICT HAS ABOUT 30% OF THE TOTAL OR ROUGHLY 11 MILLION DOLLARS. FOR 23% ROOKIE 8.4 MILLION DOLLARS. >> ALSO WILL NOTICE LARGELY DUE TO THE REVENUE FUND. I PUT ON GOES 16% ALSO. REPORT COULD PUT IT BACK ALSO A 5.6 MILLION DOLLARS FOR YOUR FRONT ROW. ABOUT TAX PROPOSALS. THE MAJORITY THAT IS UTILITY THAT 3.7 MILLION DOLLARS. A PUBLIC SAFETY PUBLIC WORKS. TIE OR 5% TO PORT. 0.1 MILLION DOLLARS. HERE'S OUR OUR CDOT HE PROBABLY CLASS OF 2 TO COLORS. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT FACILITIES INTEGRITY THOSE OF OUR WHICH MAKES IT THEY ARE HELPING THEM INDICATING A PUBLIC WITH THESE ROADS BRIDGES. CONTROL STRUCTURES, WATER DRAINAGE WATERWAYS, IT IT'S WHAT A COLLECTION CETERA. OUR 25 CIP PROPOSAL. A DEPARTMENT PUBLIC WORKS HAS 21. YOU KNOW IN THE NEW. THAT'S 50% OF THE ENTIRE AMOUNT THAT WAS REQUESTED. SECOND THAT 27% ALMOST 2 MILLION DOLLARS PROPOSED BUDGET. EVERYTHING HAD A TOTAL OF $650,000. >> MAY ONLINE PERMITTING. >> DIRECT HAD ONE POINT. >> OR DOLLARS MAINLY COMPRISE DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUILDING. 27%. WELL, A CIRCLE OF HONOR 27%. PUBLIC SAFETY FIRE YOU SEE THAT TOTAL 3.2 MILLION DOLLARS. FUTURE FIRE STATION IT THAT 6% OF REQUEST. THE PUBLIC WORKS HE WAS $21.2 WITH THE MULTITUDE OF ITEMS HERE. REQUESTED INCLUDING WATER CONTROL OF I WALK IN ADDITION, IT'S. WHERE IS YOUR 3. POSSIBLE FOR YOU. IT COULD BE EARLIER WITH NEARLY 10 MILLION DOLLARS LED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATER. WASTE WATER LINE EXTENSION PROGRAM FOR $2. ALSO THE METERING INFRASTRUCTURE 0.5 MILLION DOLLARS 5% EVERY QUESTION. >> OR TOO LITTLE TOP RIGHT, THEY'RE NOT YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT IN THE CI PEOPLE HAVE TO A LITTLE FURTHER DISCUSSION IS WHICH WERE QUESTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT SO WE'LL TAKE DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT SO PUBLIC WORKS. WE'LL START OBVIOUSLY WITH DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, YEAH >> OR 4 GENERAL QUESTIONS AND OF QUESTIONS AND EACH OF THE CIP PROJECTS. >> I ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT SPRING HAVEN IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. AND THEN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT 1 MILLION DOLLARS IN ROAD AND DRAINAGE MEANS. THAT'S BEING USED FUNDED THE DISTRICT IS SPENDING. >> DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S 1 MILLION SPRING ONLY 575,000 IN FISCAL YEAR 25. JUST LET YOU KNOW I GOT THE NOTICE ON 12 TO REMOVE IT THE BOOKS FOR COMPLETED IT I FIRST THING ON MY LIST THAT THEY GOT TOMORROW. >> THANK YOU AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS GET IT I HAD IT IN THE AND THAT'S WHAT CONCERNED THE 575,000. WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO REALLOCATE THAT REDUCED THAT THE ASSESSMENT WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE. BECAUSE IT IS ROAD DRAINAGE DISTRICT FUNDS CORRECT. >> IT'S FUN THINK WE WOULD WE WOULD RECOMMEND. TO MOVE THAT. MONEY OVER TO ONE OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS. I UNDERSTAND RATHER THAN REDUCE REMEMBER OUR. OUR OUR RATES WERE PART OF THE METHODOLOGY WE APPROVED THERE'S A PLAN FOR THAT. SO IF WE START REDUCING THAT IT HAS A A WATERFALL EFFECT DOWN THE ROAD. >> THE ANGLE PARKING FOR THE NORTH AND SOUTH TAMIAMI TRAIL. THOSE WERE I BELIEVE THEY WERE ADDED TO ANOTHER CIP PROJECT FOR COMING ON. HERE IT IS. >> MULTI-MODAL PATH AMENITIES DESIGN. THAT INCLUDES THESE. PARKING. DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY DID THEY GET ADDED TOGETHER. I GET WHY DID YOU INCLUDE PARKING WITH MULTI-MODAL. AMENITIES. THAT YOU I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU IS JUNE DEPARTMENT >> I BELIEVE THOSE DIRECTION THE BOARD AS THOSE 2 PROJECTS ARE IN THE SAME AREA. 3 PROJECTS IS WHAT THEY WERE SO THEY WERE COMBINED. WELL BUDGET CYCLE. >> REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION BUT I WILL GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK MYSELF. >> PERSONALLY I THINK THEY NEED TO BE SEPARATED OUT AS AMENITIES TRASH CANS AND BENCHES ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THE PARK SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SEEING HOW THOSE GOT ADDED TOGETHER MAYBE MAYBE THE HURRICANE PLANS WERE TO BE ADDED TOGETHER IS ONE PROJECT THAT I COULD SEE HAPPENING BUT INCLUDING IN WITH THE MULTI-MODAL I HAVE DOUBLE THAT DOUBLE BACK ON THAT >> AFTER 4 YEARS OF. EACH YEAR HAVING LIKE BRIDGE REPAIR FOR 1921 2324 25. AND THE SAME THING WITH THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM THE EVERY YEAR ALLOCATIONS WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES AGAIN EVERY YEAR ALLOCATIONS WELL HAVE SIDEWALKS SIDEWALKS AND PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES AND THEN THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS I WAS LIKE GOING CRAZY TRYING TO MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF IT AND SO I CREATED A LITTLE SPREADSHEET. AS I'VE ALREADY STATED I LOVE LITTLE SPREADSHEET THAT REALLY PAINTS A GOOD PICTURE. >> ONE OF THE PICTURES THAT I WAS REALLY SURPRISED TO SEE A STRANGE. I'M LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS CIP PROJECTS FOR DRAINAGE THEY CAME TO ABOUT 9.5 MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE YEARS INCLUDING THIS YEAR. WE'VE ONLY EXPANDED 3 MILLION. AND I'M CURIOUS. YOU KNOW WE'RE BUDGETING A LOT OF MONEY FOR THESE PROJECTS AND THE COMMON THEME THAT SEEN WE'RE BUDGETING ALL THIS MONEY WHETHER THE ROAD AND DRAINAGE FEES. A DISTRICT FEES OR CERTAIN TAX. BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE. GETTING COMPLETED OR MAY BE THE EXPENDITURES TO DATE GETTING CAUGHT UP FOR THE CIP SHEET. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOING ON WITH IT. IT CONCERNS ME. THE BRIDGE REPAIRS. WE HAD ALLOCATED 1.9 MILLION DOLLARS AND BRIDGE REPAIRS. AND SO EXPENDITURES TO DATE 300,000. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS AND ALSO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO TRACK BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT THE PROJECT IS GOING TO ACCOMPLISH. WHAT CONTROL STRUCTURES CLEARLY SAYS IT I LOVE THAT LIKE DRAINAGE SYSTEM. USED TO SAY GRAY AREAS AND THAT CAN CHANGE AND I KNOW THAT WITH THE HURRICANE IT PROBABLY HAS. BUT THERE'S NO IDENTIFIER AS TO WHAT THE PROJECT IS GOING TO ACCOMPLISH IN WHAT AREA. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME CONCERNS THAT I HAVE I WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH STAFF. I'M TOLD HER MY LITTLE SPREADSHEET IF THEY'RE INTERESTED WE'RE SPENDING A LOT DISTRICT AND A LOT OF SURTAX MONEY. BASED ON THE EXPENDITURE NOT SEEN ANYTHING BEING. THOSE ARE GENERAL REPLENISHMENT PLAN. THERE'S 3 CIP SHEETS THAT SHOW REPLENISH MEANT PLAN. IS FORTHCOMING. BUDGET AMENDMENT IS FORTHCOMING. WHAT DOES THAT WHAT WHAT IS THAT ABOUT. THE SHEER NUMBERS STAGE FOR 13 FOR 15 FOR 28 AND PAGE 4 AS PART OF PUNISHMENT PLAN A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO RETURN X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO ROAD DISTRICT IS FORTHCOMING. WHAT IS THAT. >> THAT'S JUST SHOWING MY REMAINING IN THAT PROJECT IS GOING BACK AS PART OF THE REPONSE MONTH PLAN. IT'S SWAPS OUT THAT. WITH TRANSPORTATION FACTORIES. JUST SAY THAT. SO IS THERE A BUDGET AMENDMENT COMING FOR THIS. >> PROBABLY WILL BE PROBABLY BE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. >> AND THE THE FISCAL YEAR CAN COUNT THE SCHOOL YEAR. DID YOU SEE CALENDAR FISCAL I. >> IT >> COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON PRICE BOULEVARD TO HAVE A LOT OF CITIZENS WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING TO PRICE. IF YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE FOR >> SO SOLICITATION FOR PRICE BOULEVARD CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED BY PERSON. YOU GO OUT ON THE STREET. >> BUT HAS NOT GONE OUT ON THE STREET IT. >> BUT THEY'LL BE A PUBLIC MEETING FOR WHY 20TH WHERE THE AND WE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ALONG THE CORRIDOR O J. >> WHEN DO YOU THINK WILL GET THAT BACK. >> SOLICITATION YEAH FOR IT WILL BE 60 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF POLICE. SO IT'S IT'S JUST STARTING. IT NOW SO IT MAY BE THERE. YEAH, SHOULD BE SEPTEMBER. ♪ HOPEFULLY SEPTEMBER UP SOBER GET IT ♪ FROM COMMISSION. OCTOBER NOVEMBER. >> SO WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUING THE BONDS WHEN IS THAT DISCUSSION GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT'S ALREADY WORKING ON THAT. AND WHEN DO YOU THINK WE WOULD SEE THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT PROCESS FROM IT WILL BE A FINANCE. >> CORRECT ME IF WRONG I THINK TARGETING OCTOBER. OCTOBER WOULD BE THE TARGET DATE FOR THAT. >> LOOK AT THAT CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH. THE CONTRACT COMING AS WELL OF COURSE TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION OF COURSE. >> DO YOU THINK WE WOULD START CONSTRUCTION STILL ON TARGET FOR THE END OF THIS YEAR WE ARE SUPER HOPEFUL FOR WE'RE ON TRACK RIGHT NOW EXCELLENT STARS ALIGN. >> EXCELLENT THANK YOU FOR >> NEW SAID THE HILLSBOROUGH HILLSBOROUGH CRANBERRY THAT 1.3 MILLION IS COMING OUT OF THE ARPA FUNDS AND IT'S GOING TO BE REPLACED WITH. >> TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES, YOU SAID, IS ALL BE UPDATED. FOR JULY CORRECT. THE PRICE BOULEVARD TRAFFIC SIGNAL NEXT. THINKING IT'S SO IT'S FUNCTIONAL NOW. >> IT'S FUNCTIONAL I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WAITING WITH THE STREAM COULD STICK OK BUT IF THEY HADN'T FLASH SOMEONE SETS OF ARRIVED. >> EXCELLENT SO YEAH, THE OVER THE SIGNALS THEMSELVES I DIDN'T SEE WELL THERE'S NO PEDESTRIANS TO USE SO. SO CAN WE TAKE THIS OUT OF THE CIP PROJECT. >> WE HAVEN'T CLOSED OUT THAT PROJECT YOU KNOW HAS NOT CLOSED ONE SETS CLOSED OUT THE MORNING REQUEST, ITS REMOVAL. FANTASTIC CONTROL STRUCTURE ONE 13. IS THAT ALL DONE STILL IN PROGRESS AND PROGRESS. >> THE I 75. INTERCHANGE. AND TOLEDO BLADE. I AND SURPRISED TO SEE THAT SUMTER'S WITH NOT GETTING DONE. BUT TOLEDO BLADE IS. >> THAT'S THAT'S FOR THE TEMPORARY SIGNALS. PERSONALIZATION UNTIL THE IT'S A STATION COMES IN. FOR THE TOURNAMENT SIGNALS WHICH WHICH WOULD BE THE PROJECT I'M YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE WORKING THE LOCAL FUNDING TO DO THAT NOW WITH I CAN FOR THE WITH A PERMANENT SIGNALS THAT SUMTER AND TOLEDO ARE WORKING NOW WITH F DOT ON THE LOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT THE >> WHEN DO YOU THINK SIGNAL STILL >> IT'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL YEARS AT THIS ARE GOING TO DESIGN FOR THE ALREADY BE IN DESIGN THAT'S THE REASON PUTTING WORKING THROUGH THE CONTRACT THAT YOU SEE IT COMING FOR YOU THE AMENDMENT. A IS FOR. THE ADDITIONAL WORK THEY WANT ON TOLEDO. FOR US SAW A TEMPORARY SIGNAL TO TRY TO COVER THAT GAP IN BETWEEN. OF WHEN THE PERMANENT SIGNALS WERE GOING. >> YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WITH >> ARE WE MOVING FORWARD WITH PUTTING IN TEMPORARY SIGNALS THAT SUMTER. >> SURE IF THAT RECOMMENDED IF WE WANT TO PUT ANY TEMPORARY SIGNALS AND THAT TOLEDO WAS THE ONE THAT THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT THIS AMEND THE REALLY WORKING WITH US TO GET THROUGH THE PERMITTING SIDE OF THAT. GET THAT IN PLACE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. >> DTA FOR THE TEMPORARY SIGNALS. THE TOLEDO BLADE. YOUR SEPTEMBER. ONE YEAR FROM. >> SUMMER SO YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT SEPTEMBER OF >> YEAH I. AND SORRY I'M JUST REALLY SURPRISED BECAUSE WHEN I ASKED FOR AN UPDATE AND I GOT THE UPDATE FROM I THINK CITY MANAGER FROM YOU GUYS, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHO WROTE THE MEMO TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS. IT HAD CHANGED DRASTICALLY IN THE PAST LIKE 45 DAYS FROM WHAT THIS UPDATE. MEMO SAID TO WHAT I'M SEEING IN THE CIP SHEET AND IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THEN WHAT. WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE WAS HAPPENING WITH THOSE 2 INTERCHANGES THEY'RE VERY DANGEROUS AND SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET KILLED. AND IT. THERE'S ACCIDENTS ARE ALL THE TIME AND INTO NOT HAVE ANYTHING HAPPENING IN SUMPTER IN THE NEAR FUTURE. CONCERNS DEEPLY. AMERICA YOU DON'T LET OTHERS TAKE OVER. THANK YOU I HAVE COMMISSIONER LANGDON. >> MY BRAIN LET ME TRY. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND SO. >> IS THIS PART OF THE MOBILITY PLAN. >> I DON'T THINK SEEN THE FINE NO MOTHER CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE UPDATE ON MOBILITY PLAN. SO. >> COMMISSION ALREADY APPROVED THE MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY PLAN. SO WE HAVE THE PLAN IN PLACE WHAT WHAT HASN'T BEEN. COMPLETED YET IS US. PUTTING A MOBILITY FEE IN PLACE AND THAT'S DUE TO SOME GRANT STATION ISSUE SO WE'RE STILL USING TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT MOBILITY PLAN AND THOSE CROSSINGS AND NEIGHBOR CONNECTORS THAT WERE THEN A FIGHT WITHIN THE PLANT SO THOSE ARE THE ARE OF THOSE OF HIM BUT THAT WAS MY QUESTION ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH OF THE CITY. OUR PET OF PLANS ALREADY A COUPLE YEARS OLD IN THESE PLACES IS CONNECTING LOCATIONS ARE BEING BOUGHT. AND BUILT ON SO WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE THE PROPERTIES THAT WE FOR THOSE CONNECTORS TO TO SEE MORE OF THAT COMING FROM. OKAY GOOD. >> I SEEN IS A GREENWOOD SIDEWALK WIDENING PROJECT. I HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT AND ONCE THE NTA. 34,000 DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT OF MONEY. >> I BE FREED MEN REACH AN ENGINEER. SO WE RECEIVED ACTUALLY A CDBG GRANT THAT WILL HELP PAY FOR THAT PROJECT. WE HAVE THE DESIGN CONTRACT. CURRENTLY A IN FACT REGION. IT'S A WORK ASSIGNMENT WITH JOHNSON, ENGINEER THEY'LL BE PREPARING THE DESIGN PLANS FOR THAT THERE A WAS A LITTLE BIT FAR BEHIND WAS BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A SURVEY CONTRACT AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU TOO NON-PERFORMANCE BY THE SERVIR WE HAD TO CUT TIES WITH WHICH ENDED UP DOING THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT. OKAY SO. >> DESIGN IS PROGRESS. >> WHEN DO YOU THINK WORK WILL BEGIN ON THAT. JUST A ROUGH IDEA. >> WORK PROBABLY BEGIN. I'D SAY ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW. OK THANK YOU. >> I ALSO SAW THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE HIGH SCHOOL IT WAS GOOD TO >> I >> SAY 3 MILLION. >> IN THE YORKSHIRE RAINTREE INTER CHANGE THAT. WHAT IS THAT DOING. >> LET UP FOR A QUICK SECOND. >> SO HE NUMBER OF THEM. >> THOSE ARE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES THAT WERE SIGNING TO THAT PROJECT. AGAIN TO TRY TO SHOW THAT THE CITY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT CHANGE AND TO INVITE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR GRANTS OR. FOR MISTER FOR IT'S FOR 3 IT'S 3 MILLION, BUT IT'S IT'S OUT OF TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. AND AS WE COLLECT THOSE FEES UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ASSIGN THEM TO TRANSPORTATION IMPACT >> SO. WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY SPENDING MONEY IN 25 THE MOMENT WITH COLLECTING CORRECT OR PUTTING IT IN THE PROJECT. OKAY IT WON'T BE ANY WORK DONE THAT PROJECT FOR SOME TIME. >> AND THEN ON PAGE 3.16 AND THE BIG BUCK. >> THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXPANSION. >> THE 3.9 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT WAS GOING TO OKAY. I APOLOGIZE IF THIS IS WHAT COMMISSIONER MC DOWELL ALREADY COVERED BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY DOLLARS BUDGETED WATER AND SEWER TO GO OUT TO SUMTER I WAS GOING UTILITIES AS WELL. BUT I WANT THERE'S ALL DAY LONG. >> I'M A I'M GOOD I'M DOWN. >> I'M THANK VICE MAYOR. YEAH, REALLY JUST HAVE 2 QUESTIONS PARKING ISSUE AND ROUTE 41. IN FRONT >> MY FAVORITE BUSINESSES. ANNE THE MOVES GOT THE CHAMBER. CAR WASH. YOU KNOW FOR ANYONE WHO TRAVELS THAT. SINCE ANNA MARIA'S OPENED AND THIS IS TO SLOW SEASON. IT IS. A MOB SCENE, I MEAN THEIR CARS FROM LUNCHTIME ON 7 DAYS A WEEK. ALL OVER THE PLACE THERE IN THE SWELL. THEY'RE TEARING UP THE GRASS THERE'S NOWHERE TO PARK WHILE THERE IS I BELIEVE SOME PARALLEL PARKING SIGNS ALONG THERE. IF PEOPLE WERE TO FOLLOW THOSE ABOUT ONE-FIFTH OF THE MOUNT A VEHICLES WERE THERE WOULD BE ABLE TO PARK ILLEGALLY. NOW THERE'S RUMORS RUNNING A MIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO START TAKING THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY IN THE SWELLS WERE HARASSED AND TAKE AND GO OH MY GOD, YOU KNOW WHAT ARE YOU DOING OVER THERE. WELL. THIS IN MY OPINION IS A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN. 7 YEARS AGO. BECAME A CIP PROJECT. THERE WAS A GRANT WHERE QUITE A FEW 100,000 WERE ALLOCATED FOR THIS WHICH WAS REDEPLOYED SOMEWHERE ELSE WHEN ARE WE GOING TO PUT PARKING AND THERE ARE WE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY AND GET THE WE JUST SIMPLY DROP SOME TYPE AND THAT'S WELL THAT FEEL THAT DIRT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND LET PEOPLE PARK THEIR WHAT'S SAUCE A PROXY BRAND NEW BUSINESS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOVING AND WE ARE GOING TO ABSOLUTELY BLOW BUSINESS OUT OF THE WATER, I'VE HAD I'VE ACTUALLY IN CASE WITH NEIGHBORS WHO REACHED OUT TO PATEL AT THE HOTEL TO SEE IF HE WOULD PARKING THERE. AND YEAH, 2530 QUESTION OF COURSE THE 3,000 A MONTH DIDN'T SEEM VIABLE WOULD MAKE IT SO IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE IT ISN'T NOT GOING TO GET BETTER IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE AS WE GET THIS YEAR INTO THE HIGH SEASONS OF THE YEAR. >> AND. I 8. IT'S JUST EXPLOSION WAY >> A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER THEIR FIRST WERE. STAFF WORKING THROUGH OUR ALLY OR A REQUEST FOR A LETTER OF INTEREST. FOR SOMEONE TO COME UP WITH THE METHODOLOGY FOR US TO POSSIBLY PUT A DISTRICT THERE. COULD HELP FUND THAT HELP SUPPORT CITY FIND OUT. WHERE THEY CAN YOU KNOW THE THE BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE PARKING WOULD ACTUALLY PLAY INTO THAT THE WHICH WOULD HELP US PROVIDE TO BUILD THE PARKING BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN FUNDED I THINK SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IT'S BEEN FUNDED AND UNFUNDED 3 OR 4 TIMES SO. WE'RE WORKING THAT ROUTE AROUND. I KNOW THAT I'VE KIND OF BEEN TASKED WITH FIGURING SOMETHING OUT THERE IT'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE THE POSSIBILITIES AND I HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH LEGAL. IF WE CAN LEASE THE PROPERTY TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ELSE. THEY ARE. THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK THE WAY THE PARKING RIDE A PARK ROADWAY. AS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IS TALKING SOME LOCAL IT'S CENTER. AND THAT'S TRIP VACANT LAND NEXT TO THEIR. IT WASN'T BUSINESSES TO POSSIBLY DO SOME VALET. BUT I HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE WITH POWERS TO BE AT NEW RESTAURANT TRYING SEE WHERE THEIR ADS OUT AND WHAT THEY WILL AND NO WAY TO JUST I MEAN. >> THERE'S NO WAY TO LAY SOME PIPING THAT SWELL WENT BACK LOOK WITH THEIR WITH OUR OWN STAFF WERE ON PEOPLE TO LIKE DO SOMETHING IN THE INTERIM TO WE FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO BECAUSE REALISTICALLY I MEAN EVERYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOESN'T SOUND TO ME LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. IT REALITY IS LIKE. IT'S NEXT HIGH SEASON IS GOING TO COME AND IT'S GOING TO BE A DISASTER, YOU KNOW WHAT THE BUSINESSES CAN'T CONTROL IT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT. THOSE CUSTOMERS THEY'RE GOING TO GO BALLISTIC. THE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO SUFFER. PEOPLE ARE GOING PARK THERE ANY WAY THEY'RE GOING TO THROW TICKETS IN THE GARBAGE. THEY'RE TEARING UP THE SWELLS AND ON IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO ANOTHER THEN SPRINGS STILL TO WORK. PEOPLE IN YOUR SCREAMING AND YELLING THESE ARE BUSINESSES WHO SUPPORT OUR CITY FOR EVER AND LIKE WE'RE NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING 7 YEARS AND YOU KNOW. SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET HURT. THAT'S THE INEVITABILITY OF IT AND IN THE MEANTIME, IT'S PIT NEIGHBOR AGAINST NEIGHBOR. THIS WE'VE GOT PEOPLE AROUND THE CITY WERE SAYING. YOU KNOW EVERY PART OWN LAND. AND THEN LET THIS GO ON SO I GET BOTH SIDES OF THIS BUT LIKE I'M HERE ANY SOLUTION. THAT'S WHY WOULD BE TO WORSE YOU GUYS TRIED TO FIGURED OUT THE MORE IMPORTANT HIGH LEVEL. >> QUESTION I WANT SHE LOOKING AT THE SUMMER SHE SEE ABUSE WHERE WAS THE DEPARTMENTS AND. AND THEN THE TOTAL SAYS LIKE 18 0.7 MILLION DOLLARS. CIP PROJECTS RIGHT SLOTTED FOR 25 FISCAL 25, YOU WHAT 5 MILLION DRAINAGE ONE AND FACILITIES MAINTENANCE 11.8 TRANSPORTATION. I ASSUME LIKE YOUR FUNDING THIS RIGHT AT YOUR DISTRICT, BUT HE THAT'S THE PLAN. >> ALL OF THE CIP IS WOULD BE FUNDED OUT OF DISTRICT OR THERE MAY BE SOME THAT HAVE SOME SURTAX AS WELL RIGHT LITTLE BIT OF THAT TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES, YEAH, IT WOULD BE NICE BOULEVARDS GOBBLING UP PRETTY MUCH THE BETTER PART OF 15 YEARS WORTH OF SURTAX BUT IS BUT I GET IT SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS. WE'RE DISTRICT GENERATES REVENUES IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY. BORROW MONEY. HOW COULD YOU LEVERAGE. >> I MEAN YOU LOOK NEXT YEAR 22 MILLION 32 1 MILLION 16 1 MILLION 12 MILLION >> HOW WOULD THE ABILITY TO BORROW FOR YOUR DISTRICT IF YOU COULD DISTRICT, YOU CAN GO OUT AND BORROW TOO 2 REVENUE BONDING FOR YOUR DISTRICT HOW WOULD THIS HELP YOU LEVERAGE. I WOULD JUST MAKE YOU OPERATE A BETTER. YOU KNOW APARTMENT OF OUR OUR CITY. THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION SHORTEN IT APPLIES TO A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS SURE AND AGAIN. >> WE HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS SOLID WASTE DISTRICT AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT SO WE HAVE 2 DISTRICT. A REVENUE GENERATOR. THAT WOULD BENEFIT AND THAT WAY SO AS YOU SEE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SEEING THE INCREASES ARE RATES WRITE LAST YEAR 25 THIS YEAR'S 15 METHODOLOGY READS NEXT YEAR'S 15 AGAIN. THE ABILITY TO BORROW BUT AGAINST THAT REVENUE THAT RATE BECAUSE WE WOULD SPREAD THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS OUT OVER THE NEXT WHATEVER WOULD BE 20 TO 30 YEARS. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO STABILIZE THAT ASSESSMENT. AND STILL GET YOUR BIG PROJECTS COMPLETED, YOU KNOW 10 CHILLY ACCELERATE SOME OF THE PROJECT ABSOLUTELY ACCELERATE WE WE HAVE MORE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DREAM OF FUNDING. >> YOU WOULD CUT INFLATIONARY FACTOR RIGHT RIGHT SO YOU KNOW YOU HAVE. >> WE'RE GOING TO RUN TO WALL WITH SOLID WASTE AS FAR AS THE TRANSFER STATION AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON CUSTOMERS STILL AT THE RATE BETWEEN 3040 A WEEK. NEW HOMES. THAT FRANKS INCORPORATING INTO HIS ROUTES. WE ARE GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE IT WILL $0.0 TO RUN THAT EVERY TRASH TRUCK OUT OF THE CITY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY MORE TRUCKS HIRE MORE PEOPLE IF WE DON'T GET TRANSFER STATION. YOU KNOW USE WAY FOR US TO DO THAT BECAUSE OUR MONEY. YOU KNOW TO BE THAT MONEY. BILL THAT TRANSFER STATION AND YOUR RATE WOULD LEVEL OUT MAY YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SEE INCREASED EFFICIENCIES SOON AS WE CAN KEEP THESE TRUCKS IN BUT THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE VEHICLES. STAFF TIME. AND YOU KNOW. FRANK SAYS EASY WHEN YOU LOOK AT ROAD AND DRAINAGE IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME YOU START LOOKING AT THE BRIDGES THAT WE NEED AND THE WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES THAT WE NEED. THROUGHOUT THE CITY. >> APPRECIATE SHE'S JUST SAYING THAT I MEAN I I. OFTEN IT UP THERE AND I'M GOING TO THIS TO DEATH BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER BECAUSE ANYBODY THINKS THAT OUR ABILITY TO BORROW IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH LIKE. YOU KNOW US WANTING TO BE ABLE TO SPEND SPEND SPEND THIS ACTUALLY ALL ABOUT HOW TO SAVE. I DO HOLD COSTS AT A LEVERAGE, OUR FUTURE ALL SAID INFLATION. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT ALL THESE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE REVENUES HAS THE ABILITY TO PAY. IF WE CAN'T LEVERAGE THAT ABILITY TO PAY. THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT OF PROPERTY TAX POCKETS EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER IN THE CITY. I JUST THE REALITY YOU GUYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO LEVERAGE AND WE'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT NOT TO MENTION THE OTHER MAPPING. CREATIVE TYPE. GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MAY GET. IT IN CERTAIN AREAS SO AGAIN I WON'T GO ON AND ON BUT ALSO THE PART REITERATE THE TYPICAL NOT. THEY HAVE THE OF WEEK. THERE'S NO NO MORE SPACE SO. WITHOUT YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO MENTIONED WITH PHASE OF THE PUBLIC WORKS COMPLEX. WHAT WE BUT WILL BE CHEAP NECESSARY. WE WANT TO KEEP ALL THE DIFFERENT. BUT THAT WILL BRING IT ON. DEPARTMENT SAID YOU COULD STORE ALL YOUR EXTRA THANK YOU VERY I QUESTION WITHOUT THE CITYWIDE TREE YOU HAVE. >> IT LOOKS LIKE A $100,000 PLANNED IS THAT COMING OUT OF ROAD AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT OR IS THAT COMING OUT OF TREATMENT BECAUSE IF IT IS COMING AT A ROAD AND DRAINAGE IT REALLY NEEDS TO COME OUT OF TREATS AND THAT'S PURPOSE THAT MEANS THAT IT WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT THAT'S TRUE FIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T SAY WHICH ONE SO. SAYING THAT IT'S FUNDED BOTH BY ROAD AND DRAINAGE CAN'T REFUND WHO DOESN'T BREAK IT DOWN. >> AND WE DID THAT WE HAVE FINANCE SOME OF THAT THROUGH RED RANGE OR TREES THAT IT KNOCKED OVER YOU KNOW FOR MEDIAN REPLACEMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING BUT I BELIEVE WE TRANSITION BUT FOR THAT OVER TO REFUND. >> HERE'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE AS TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING ABOUT THAT LIST OF LIKE ROAD REHABILITATION. I'M LOOKING AT THE ARE 22 ARE H ONE. WHAT WHAT ROADS WAS FOR 22 WHAT ROADS ARE FOR 24. YOU KNOW IT WOULD REALLY BE HELPFUL IN OWINGS IT NOT ONLY FOR US TO KNOW WHAT ROADS BUT FOR THE CITIZENS, SO THAT WAY THEN IT CUTS DOWN WHAT IS MY ROLE GETTING DONE THERE'S A LIST AND IT IN HERE OR IT'S ON THE WEBSITE DON'T KNOW. >> WE DO PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE AND. PREVIOUSLY WE WOULD BUT THEN A FI DOWN TO THE SMALLEST PROJECTS AND SAFETY ASIDE. BUT THEN THAT TIED OUR HANDS SOMETHING ELSE CAME UP USING THOSE FUNDS TO HANDLE IT. SO YES I WE STILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE WE STILL DO A GRID PER YEAR PLUS US PROJECTS ON TOP OF THAT. >> IT JUST WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE CIP YOU KNOW WHAT THE IT'S KIND KNOW BRING WE LIST PROJECTS SUCH AS YOU THAT'S A DREDGING OF THE WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT REPORT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE IT WHEN WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT. THEY COMPLETED THAT SURVEY JUST PRIOR TO HIM. WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON HARBOUR BRIDGE. REHABILITATION PROJECTS KIND STALLED IS BECAUSE ALL THAT WORK WAS DONE INSPECTIONS AND SCOPES PRIOR TO SO IN THE GATED. QUITE A BIT OF OUR WORK AND WE HAD TO START OVER. COCO PLUM WE HAVEN'T STARTED OVER ON THAT ONE OF THE NONE OF THAT THAT I WAS FACT BY THE CONSULTANT. OVER WHERE THAT WAS IT. WE A LOT REVISIT. >> INTERNALLY AND ARE EVALUATING OF THE CAUSE >> ORIGINAL. >> AND CAME BACK SAYING THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY AT THAT'S A PATIENTS ARE BETTER THE SPECIFICATIONS AGAIN THAT WOULD BE 40 AND SO A LOT OF A. >> THE INITIAL REPORT DID SAY THAT THAT SURPRISINGLY IN THAT SECTION THAT WE SURVEYED THE. ADAM HAD IN HUMILIATING ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT DESIGN WAS CALLING FOR SOME AREAS WAS ACTUALLY DO FOR THEM TO SIGN. >> I'M. >> CONFUSED BECAUSE THERE'S A LIKE AN ISLAND. IN THE IS THAT SO WE DID A SURVEY THE THAT WASN'T PART OF THE PROJECT. IT WAS BETWEEN ONE O ONE O I BELIEVE. WAS IT WAS A SECTION OF COCO PLUM. >> THAT THERE IS AN ISLAND ON THE ONE TOP END OF IT. SO THAT'S THE SECTION WE ASSUME WOULD HAVE. SETTLEMENT THROUGHOUT. BUT THE INITIAL SURVEY DID FIND THAT. >> HOW DOES THE SURVEY NOT FIND THAT THERE'S AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE WHAT THEY FOUND IS THE REST OF THAT WATERWAY WAS AT OR BELOW THAT DESIGN ELEVATION. >> ARE WE GOING TO BE JUDGING THE COCO PALMS ARE RE-DOING THE SURVEY ARE REDOING THIS REPORT ARE WE DOING ANYTHING WITH COCOA TO GOING TO BE REMOVING THE DEPOSITS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AFTER YOU. >> WHICH THERE'S THERE'S ONE OR 2. 2 SIGNIFICANT. SAM BARS WHICH WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT NOW TRYING TO EITHER ICE. I I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT STAFF CHECKING IN TO SEE IF WE CAN USE INTERNAL EQUIPMENT, I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR LONG STICK LEAVING, REACH SO THEN WE HAVE SOME LOGISTICS TO WORK OUT AS FAR AS HOW TO GET A BARGE IN THERE AND THE CONTRACT. >> AND I'M SURE US WITH MICHAEL. PROBABLY BE WATCHING IT PA, I'M NOT SURE ARMY CORPS NOW I THINK PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THAT SO. >> BRAINTREE INTERCHANGE. >> WE HAD APPROPRIATED LAST FISCAL YEAR WHEN WE APPROVED BUDGET. WE APPROVED A 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS USING TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS CIP SHEET. IT'S LIKE. APPROPRIATED TO DATE IS ONLY 56,000 AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO APPROPRIATE ANOTHER 3 MILLION. WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 2 AND A HALF MILLION THAT WAS APPROPRIATED LAST YEAR. >> SO THE 2 AND A HALF MILLION WAS TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES THAT WAS PURPOSE LAST YEAR WAS MOVED OVER TO THE PRICE BOULEVARD LITTLE IS ONE WINDING PROJECT. >> THAT COVERS. >> I DO. WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION THAT'S. MOVING INTERNAL FUNDING BETWEEN PROJECTS. THE PROJECTS ARE STILL THERE THE PRICE CURRENT PROJECT THAT NEEDS THE FUNDS. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN I DON'T I THINK MOST OF THE POINT. ANSWERED. >> WE HAVE. PAGE FOR 55 ITS PROJECT ARE 24 R H. >> THIS ONE HAS FEDERAL FUNDING OF 2 MILLION DOLLARS. HER PRIETA THAT'S THE ARPA FUNDS GOT WE CAN USE ARPA FUNDS FROM LOCAL ROOMS. AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE FEDERAL PROCUREMENT STANDARDS. THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE COMBINED WITH THAT. BOND. THAT ALL THESE TRAFFIC SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS ARE THEY REPLACING OLD EQUIPMENT OR INSTALLING NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS. THAT'S FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE EQUIPMENT WITH THAT'S. HEADS ELSE THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO JUST GOING THROUGH OF THE SO THE SIGNALS STATION AT A BERLIN AND HILLSBOROUGH. >> I DON'T SEE ANYTHING OF IT BEING AND I KNOW THIS IS FUTURE WANTED TO JUST THROW IT OUT THERE THAT SHOULD BE SPLIT WITH CHARLOTTE COUNTY ARE WORKING WITH SHORT TIME DIDN'T SEE SHOOTER ALSO WOULDN'T BEST SORRY. >> ALL RIGHT, SAY ANYTHING MISTER EVERETT SHOULD YOU HAVE ANYTHING. AND BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT PUBLIC WORKS NO DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. OKAY SO WE'RE GOING VOTE OUT. >> ITEM THANK THANK YOU SO MUCH VERY THOROUGH VERY LOT OF WORK. ALL THE BOARD BUT WE WANTED TO KEEP PUSHING AND WHAT WE'VE GOT AND I JUST HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING THROUGH. VICE MAYOR 15, BUT YEAH, NO PROBLEM FOR CHILDREN JUST WONDERING I DON'T I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SNOWBALL'S CHANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY GET THROUGH THE REST OF CIP. >> SO WHAT WOULD BE OUR RICHLAND. LIKE WE PUSH RIGHT UP TO 4. BUT WHAT WHAT'S YOUR OR DO OUR DISTRICT MEETINGS I COME BACK TO THIS BEFORE 6 O'CLOCK MEANS THE WAY BUDDY AND JULIE I WANT BEATINGS WHAT THAT I HAVE A 6 HOUR WITH THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET STARTED YESTERDAY CLARK, WHAT IS THE PLAN. >> IF YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE THE 4 O'CLOCK 5 O'CLOCK IN THE 6 O'CLOCK SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONTINUE IT TO A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN BELIEVE CITY MANAGER SAID WE COULD POSSIBLY DO IT AND IT STARTS TOMORROW. JUST HAVE TO TAKE THE MOTION TO DO IT TO THE DATE AND TIME CERTAIN WHAT YOU CAN DO BECAUSE IT'S A MINISTRY THAT WE DO HAVE DO ISSUES WITH YOU THEREBY MOTION TO CONTINUE IT TO A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN A FINE. >> OKAY 1 O'CLOCK TOMORROW ONE RIGHT AFTER OUR YOU WHEN YOU THINK WE CAN GET THEM BY 1 O'CLOCK TOMORROW, BUT WE HAVE TOMORROW. CHARTER CHARTER. WE MAY NEED 2 O'CLOCK 4850 HOURS FOR KNOW AFTER THE LAST SHOULD. THINGS I TALK ABOUT THE BOND WITH MANDATE IT THAT THAT WILL GIVE US A DROP DATE ON HOW MUCH WE CAN BEAT IT TO DEATH TOMORROW. >> BUT WE DO THAT THE CITIZENS TO MAKE SURE. >> I WELL LET'S JUST KEEP ROLLING ALONG AND SEE MAYBE THAT WILL HELP US SEE LEFT OK. >> SO I JUST SAY TOMORROW IS A REAL PROBLEM FOR ME I'M BETTER THURSDAY OR FRIDAY. >> YEAH, THIS SOMETHING I ACTUALLY HAVE A DOCTOR TOMORROW 3 WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE >> YOU'RE TALKING TO. >> I'M JUST WE WANT TO CONTINUE THROW TOO WELL WHAT DONE WE CAN FINISH PARKS AND BEFORE WE EVER DO THAT, WE GOOD. ALL RIGHT ITEM G 24 DASH 0, 8, 7, FOR PARKS AND REC. DEPARTMENT CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> WE'VE ALREADY GONE PARKS RECS TO TELL BUT PARKS AND RECS PURPOSE HERE IT IS TRUE OUT K I HAD MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED ABOUT YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT SO COMMISSIONERS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE SCORE. THAT'S RIGHT. WE DID HAVE FRIEND WAS THAT LIKE THAT WAS SO LONG SO YEAH EVERY MEMBER WHEN YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS I WAS LIKE WE'RE HAVING CIP TOMORROW. OKAY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL JUST GETTING TO THE PAGE MAN. SECOND. LEGACY TRAIL. >> PAGE 3.69. THIS ONE HAS. FOR PARKING LOT THAT'S WHAT THIS CIP PROJECT IS I THINK ALL OF US RECEIVED E-MAIL BUT I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL SAYING THAT FRONT OF LEGACY TRAIL IS LIKE COMMITTING TO I THINK IT WAS A 100,000. 200,000 OR 100,000. SO THE CONNECTIVITY INTO WARM MINERAL SPRINGS. I HAD IN MY NOTES TO CREATE A PROJECT FOR LEGACY TRAIL CONNECTED CONNECTION. BUT THEN I GOT THAT E-MAIL AND THEY SUGGESTED EITHER 2 SEPARATE PROJECTS OR COMBINING IT WITH THIS PROJECT SO THAT WE DO THE PARKING LOT AND THE CONNECTIVITY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WILL OF THE BOARD IS BUT WE ALSO NEED TO PROBABLY HAD SOME MONEY TO THE CONNECTIVITY BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT 60 ACRES IS EVER GOING TO COME TO FRUITION. THE LEGACY TRAIL IS A HUGE ECONOMIC DRIVER A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE USING IT. AND I THINK IT SHOWS. JUST. IT SHOWS OUR DESIRE TO DO SOMETHING AS OPPOSED TO JUST LEAVING IT THERE AND NOT HAVING ANY MONEY ALLOCATED TO KIND PAINT A DIFFERENT PICTURE MY GOOD FRIENDS OF LACI TRIAL IS WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE WE MIGHT NEED TO PONY UP SOME MONEY TO SAY HEY THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THIS IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE GOING TO PONY UP MONEY BUT BEFORE DO ANYTHING WITH THE PARKING LOT ONE, I KNOW GULF COAST COMMUNITY FOUNDATION DONATED $33,500 FOR PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS. >> MAYBE THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO SAY INSTEAD OF PARKMAN IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO CONNECTIVITY I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE DEFINITELY RESPECTFULLY WOULD NEED TO HAVE BEFORE WE JUST SAY HEY WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT MONEY AND USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE UNWISE AND NOT FAIR. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND THROW IT OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT THE WILL OF THE BOARD IS REGARDING THIS LEGACY TRAIL THAT CONNECTIVITY AND THE PARKING I DON'T THINK THE PARKING LOT IS GOING IMPROVE VERY MUCH AT THIS POINT IN TIME IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS. BUT IF THERE'S A CONNECTIVITY MAYBE THE PARKING LOT WILL BE AN IMPROVED DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT I MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU GUYS MET WITH THEM ALSO. >> THE. AND LOT YEAR. I'M COMMITTED TO A $100,000 CONDITIONS FOR THE GETTING INTO ACTION. >> COSTS. >> WE NEED REVERSE. 3 RECOMMENDATION. ALL RIGHT TOO. THAT WAS BACK IN MARCH OF 2022 TO PRIORITIZE THE LEGACY TRAIL EXTENSION TRAILHEAD AS PART OF THE FACE TO GET YOUR DEVELOPMENT. AND COMMISSION DID NOT TAKE ANY ACTION. WELL THEY DID THEY THE TABLE THE CONVERSATION AT THAT POINT THAT WAS IS P 3 WAS GOING ON RIGHT SO. WE THINK IT'S A PRIORITY FOR THAT PHASE IMPROVEMENTS AT WARM MINERAL SPRINGS PARK. THERE IS NO PROJECT THERE IS NO FUNDING AT THIS POINT IDENTIFIED FOR THE DESIGN WE PROBABLY NEED ABOUT $700,000. AND THAT'S TO FINISH THE 90% PLAN THAT'S TO DESIGN THE CONNECTING. ROUTE TO IN THE WARM MINERAL SPRINGS PARK AND THAT'S FOR THE TRAILHEAD DESIGN AS WELL. >> AND CAN I I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS WOULD BE WAY AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. >> SAID THERE IS PARCEL SARASOTA COUNTY TRYING TO PURCHASE. >> THE MADE A COUNTEROFFER. >> THAT IS. >> OUT OF. THAT THE COUNTY WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S OUT IN THE YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT. WE DID TALK STAFF TALKED TO PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT POTENTIALLY USING THE DRAINAGE TO GO AROUND THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT CAN BE DONE THERE ARE SOME SHOULD THERE BE ANY FUTURE I THINK IT'S AN EXPANSION OF THE DRAINAGE CANAL THERE. THAT THE TRAIL WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED AT THAT POINT. SO I HAVE PRESENTED THAT INFORMATION TO COUNTY STAFF. AND THEY WERE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. AND SEE HOW THEY FELT ABOUT >> CAN I COMMENT ON THAT. >> I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO THAT DRAINAGE DITCH TIME SO THIS IS THE FIRST I'M HEARING THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY WIDENED. IF WE JUST USE IT. NOW THAT DRAINAGE TO GET THAT CONNECTIVITY DONE. I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE MUCH OTHER CHANGES THAT MIGHT EVEN GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TOO. NEGOTIATE WITH THAT >> GET THAT THAT'S THAT'S ON THE COUNTY THAT'S NEGOTIATING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER IN A JUST THERE THEY WERE JUST THERE TO CONDITIONS THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAD ONE WAS TO BUILD UP. THE TRAIL IN THAT AREA. AND THEN ALSO. IF IT WAS EXPANDED. IF THE COW IS TOUGH AND WE HAVE TO RELOCATE THE TRAIL SO EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF THAT GOING INTO IT. THAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN. YOU KNOW PUBLIC PROBABLY SPEAK MORE TOO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT. >> JUST SPOKE TO DIRECTOR SPEAK ABOUT THIS IS AN AGREEMENT CINDY SAID HIS STORM WATER MANAGEMENT HAS AGREED A PROPOSAL. EUSTIS SHE HAS DISCUSSED IT WITH MISTER SPEAKE. AND IF IT DOESN'T IT THAT COUNTRY ROAD WE LOOK INTO THE FUTURE DUE TO EXPANSION OF BRITISH AREA. AND THE TRAIL WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKING. >> OKAY COMMISSIONER LANGDON YEAH HAVE >> THERE IS MONEY AVAILABLE THROUGH THE SUN TRAILS. >> PROGRAM HAVE WE. >> ARE WE WORKING ON AN APPLICATION FOR THOSE MUNNINGS. >> THROUGH OUR GRANT TEAM. THEY'RE PLANNING TO SUBMIT THAT APPLICATION BELIEVE THAT ONE IS IN THE FALL. AND GOT IS THAT IT THAT'S CAN I JUST. >> IT WEIGH IN ON THE SIDE IT MY CONCERN, I MEAN I YOU KNOW, I'M A BIG ADVOCATE OF CONNECTIVITY I WANT TO SEE THE LEGACY TRAIL COME IN. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A CONNECTION TO NOWHERE. AND AND MY CONCERN IS THAT JUST DOESN'T DO FEEL AS IF WE'RE THINKING THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CIP PROJECT TO TO DEAL WITH SOME DIRT PARKING LOT WHERE THE BRIDGE THEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CONNECT THAT THE LEGACY TRAIL THEIR STREET DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET TO IT 2 OF WHICH SO LOCAL CITIZENS HAVE ISSUES WITH THEN IF FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT WAY WE CONNECT AND GO AROUND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY OWNED BY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SELL TO US ACCEPT THAT RIDICULOUS PRICE. THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING COME THROUGH THE FOREIGN MINERAL SPRINGS TO NOWHERE AND AND WHAT ARE WE OFFERING I MEAN I GET IT FROM THE STANDPOINT LIKE YOU KNOW THE STAKEHOLDER SET THE LEGACY TRAIL. >> AND AND AND THE OTHER >> CHARLES HYNES I SURE GET WHAT WHAT THEIR END GAME IS HERE WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT VALUES THIS SPRING, IT TO US PEOPLE ARE GOING TO END UP IN THE PARKING LOT OF MINERAL SPRINGS WITH NOWHERE TO GO. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO JUST HAVE A FEW FOOD TRUCKS THERE FOR SOMEBODY TO PIT STOP AND GRAB SOMETHING JUST JUST JUST NOT FEEL LIKE WELL FOR PLAN. AND YET THE CONCEPT A GREAT CONCEPT DON'T GET ME WRONG. I JUST DON'T THINK WE THOUGHT THIS THING THROUGH AND DECIDE WHAT WE WANT THIS TO BEING IT JUST SEEMS LIKE. THEY'RE CHANTING, LET'S GET THIS TIME AND HERE WE'RE GOING TO DO STUFF AND IT'S GOING DUMP IN THAT THAT KARL PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF MINERAL SPRINGS WERE NO WAY FOR ANYONE TO GO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND I DON'T KNOW A $100,000 TAXPAYERS MONEY. >> YEAH, AND THINK IF I MIGHT JUMP ON THAT FOR A MINUTE THE LEGACY TRAIL IS ONLY AN ECONOMIC DRIVER IN MUCH AS IT DRAWS PEOPLE INTO AN AREA MIND THEN THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY IN THE MIDDLE OF COUNTY PROPERTY AND THE NORTH WHAT SECTION IS RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS NO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WITHOUT HAVING SOMETHING ON THOSE 60 ACRES SO I'M FEELING I THINK I'VE DESCRIBED IT SAYING A LITTLE CHICKEN AND THE EGG. I MEAN YOU KNOW WHAT WILL THE LEGACY TRAIL FINALLY GIVE US A BOOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE 60 ACRES I TEND TO DOUBT IT. BUT. >> AND I HAVE JUMP UTILIZES THE LEGACY TRAIL AND THAT HAS CYCLED AROUND YOU WANT SOMETHING AT THE FOR EXAMPLE, THE END OF THE LEGACY TRAIL AS PAIN PARK UP IN SARASOTA THAT WAS MY BIG REWARD THEY AT THERE DO WITH IT DUMPED TO DUMP 2 RIGHT THERE ON ROAD TO THERE ARE PLACES TO GO TO THAT WAS A DONUT SHOP AS YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S NOTHING HERE. ON DRIVER I I JUST THINKING I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHERE THAT'S COMING AS BIKE TRAILS THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL. WHAT IS THAT DUNEDIN THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT THE PINELLAS TRAIL. I MEAN THERE'S ALL THOSE LITTLE TOWNS YOU CAN GET OFF AND YOU CAN SPEND A WHOLE DAY THERE AND YOUR MONEY THERE'S NOTHING HERE SO HOW YOU KNOW, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO GO. BUT YES, I JUST CAN'T SEE DEDICATING MONEY AT THIS POINT WHEN THERE IS NOTHING TO BRING PEOPLE TO. >> WITH THE SENATE IFAS BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT ULTIMATELY WE JUST HAVE IT DOESN'T FIT INTO ANYTHING. YEAH RIGHT WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT. THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE WE JUST GOT TO FIGURE OUT. I MEAN THE MINERAL SPRINGS PROJECT IS JUST TAKING TIME AND IT'S THERE'S NOTHING THERE YET BASICALLY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PAST TOLL 3 ACRES AND IT'S AN EMBARRASSMENT WISELY ONE OF FOR RACE AND IT FOR RIGHT AND I JUST WANT TO BRING UP THE THE TOTAL NORTH PORT IS TAKING PLACE IN OCTOBER AND IT IS GOING TO HAVE A. >> COME OFF OF THIS GAME TO PRICE AND GO TO THE END OUT OF THE TRAIL WHAT I'M CALLING THE TRAILHEAD BUT THERE'S STILL PARKING LOT. >> BUT AGAIN AND ENCOURAGING AND SHARON DONOVAN IS THAT LEASE. BUT YES, SHE'S GOING TO BE THERE WITH HER LITTLE FLT TABLE AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO CROSS THE BRIDGE AND GO IN THERE, BUT DURING A GOES TO CERTAIN WHAT YOU SO FAR AND THEN COME COME BACK OUT AGAIN A PERSON GOING. >> CONTINUE ON THE TRAIL BUT AGAIN A LONG WAY WHEN YOU GET ON THERE. SO YOU COME TO SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE A BREAK AND AND DO SOMETHING SO AND JUST HAD TO REALLY REALIZE WHAT WHAT THAT IS AND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE EVEN IF THERE WAS SOMETHING AT 41 AND ORTIZ BUT THERE'S NOTHING NO SIR A BEAUTIFUL. >> ART STRUCTURE THAT HAS NO WATER IN IT, JUST GOING EAT THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO AS KNOW WHERE THE SHOT IS NOT WORTH IT'S. IT'S KILLING ME. >> DON'T KNOW WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL >> FOR ONCE I GUESS ON THE ONE THAT HAS THE VISION I I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS BUT I DO SEE THE VISION THAT THIS COULD THIS CONNECTION. IT'S IT'S A STEPPING STONE OF WHAT COULD BE BIGGER AND GREATER. WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THOSE BUILDINGS REDONE AND ONCE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE REDONE THAT'S WHERE THEY WILL GO THEY WILL SEE IT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE IT IF THAT'S WHAT THEY CHOOSE IT. HOPEFULLY GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE CAFE IN THERE. YES, WE COULD HAVE FOOD TRUCKS I REMEMBER ONE COMMISSIONER LANGDON FIRST CAME ON AND SHE'S SOLD ME ON HAVING SOME TYPE RESTAURANT THERE. >> AND THIS WAS I THINK ABOUT THE TIME LEGACY TRAIL WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT. AND IMMEDIATELY WANT THIS TO BE REALLY COOL BECAUSE THEY COULD HAVE A LITTLE FOOD TRUCKS THERE A LITTLE STOP RESTROOMS AND ALSO LIKE MAYBE A BIKE REPAIR SHOP AND PARKING LOT AND THEN GO ON TO THE LEGACY TRAILER OR EXIT OFF OF THAT. GRANTED IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A DISNEY WORLD THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT THE IT'S IT'S A STOP AND IT'S TO SHOWCASE SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE TO OUR CITY. >> ANY IN TIME. >> IT'S IT'S PIECES OF A PUZZLE THAT WE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT PICTURE OF THAT PUZZLE LOOKS LIKE. YOU'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE AND THAT SOMEWHERE IS WITH THOSE 3 BUILDINGS. THIS CONNECTION TO LEGACY TRAIL. AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL COME TOGETHER AS THINGS ARE HAPPENING. AND I JUST THINK THAT THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO HELP US WITH THIS, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT OWNED BY SOMEBODY THE COUNTY PROPERTY COMES FROM NORTH TO SOUTH AND THEN THERE'S LIKE A ROADBLOCK AND THAT'S THAT PERSONAL PIECE OF PROPERTY. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE WEST THAT YOU COULD KIND OF AND TURNED OUT THERE WITH THE COUNTY THEY COULD TRY AND PURCHASE BACK IT'S ONE WIDE IN BUT THERE'S A HALF OF IT CONNECTS TO THE COUNTY PROPERTY AND THEN IT COULD CONNECT AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO I HAVE THE IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT UP. I DO SEE THE VISION AND I KNOW I'M IN THE MINORITY, BUT I ALSO SAW THE VISION. BECAUSE I COME FROM CHICAGO AND THEY HAVE THESE LITTLE PARKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY. AND IT GIVES THE SOLACE TO THE I JUST I SEE THIS IS SOMETHING BIGGER THAN WHAT OTHERS CAN AND THAT'S OKAY, SOMETIMES YOU GUYS SEE THINGS BIGGER THAN WHAT I CAN AND I GET IT. I THINK THIS IS SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE FRIENDS OF LEGACY TRAIL INTO THE COUNTY THAT YES, THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. AND IF WE DON'T PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS THEY'RE GOING TO SAY REPORT WE'RE MOVING ON. AND THEN OPPORTUNITY MAY BE LOST. AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE SO THERE ARE DOUBT >> YOU LOOK AT THE COST. SOUP TO PUTTING THIS TRAIL IN. IT WAS A FEW MILLION DOLLARS. 4 MILLION DOLLARS 4 MILLION DOLLARS AND THEN WE'VE GET TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER. AND EVEN IF THE SCOPE OF WAR ASK TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S NARROW ENOUGH, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING THROUGH THE ABILITY TO BORROW FOR MINERAL SPRINGS, WHICH IS GOING TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL REFERENDUM FOR REVENUE POND IN ORDER TO BORROW THE MONEY TO COME UP WITH CLOSE TO 30 MILLION DOLLARS TO RESTORE BUILDINGS OR MAYBE 20 IF WE WANT TO JUST RESTORE THE SECULAR ON AND A SECOND NEW BUILDING FOR ADMINISTRATION AND BATHROOMS WE'VE GOT TO BE REALLY REALISTIC HERE PEOPLE HAVE CONDEMNED FOR NOT THINKING THAT THIS STUFF THROUGH. TO ME TO COMMIT WHAT'S GOING TO BE A FOUR-MILLION DOLLAR EXPENSE FOR A BIKE RIDE TO NOWHERE. I GET THE VISION BELIEVE ME THERE IS NOT ONE OF US HERE THAT DOESN'T SEE INCREDIBLE. WOW IMPACT VISION OF WHAT THE 60 ACRES COULD TO BRING ALL KINDS OF NEW BLOOD TO THIS AREA WITH KINDS OF HOLISTIC WELLNESS. RECREATIONAL ENVIRONMENT. I MEAN I CAN PICTURE IT IN MY DREAMS I SEE MINERAL SPRINGS DISTRICT. BUT I ALSO SAY LIKE YEARS BEFORE THIS HAPPENS AND TO SIMPLY. SPEND 4 MILLION BUCKS TO PROMOTE THEIR AGENDAS WHICH IS WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR SPENDING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND WHICH IS 4 MILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS. >> WE'RE GOING TO GET CRUCIFIED WE LOOK INTO WE TOOK 4. THE KIND SOMEBODY WE WANT IT TO THROW IT IN A LITTLE SPRINGS FOR A LOT OF OTHER PERSPECTIVES. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS A BAD IDEA I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE WAY OUT OF STEP. >> AND AND YOU KNOW WHAT FOR YEARS THEY'VE SEEN MINERAL SPRINGS IN THAT AREA. CRITICAL CONNECTION POINT I THINK THEY WILL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND LIKE JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR AGENDA THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO LIKE JUMP IN AND DO SOMETHING PRECIPITOUS I THINK IT'S AN IRRESPONSIBLE ACTION TAKE AND I WOULD I COULDN'T SUPPORT IT AT THIS TIME I CERTAINLY COULD SUPPORT IT DOWN THE ROAD AFTER WHICH WILL FLOW THROUGH BUT I I CAN'T NOW AND BOY GO. I REALLY SHARED A PETITION WHICH THIS CASE I REALLY SEE WHAT THIS COULD BE I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE READY WE'RE THERE YET. >> IF WE EVEN HAD A A PATH FORWARD. BUT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT EITHER PORTIONS OF THAT PROPERTY, IT'S JUST WAY PREMATURE. >> AND THIS IS WHY HAVING THAT TO JOIN MEETING IS SO VITALLY IMPORTANT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND ARE CLAD 100 PARTNERS AND SOMETHING THAT IS THIS IMPORTANT. I I I FEEL THIS IS IMPORTANT I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A SEPARATE CIP PROJECT. >> I I. >> I HOPE THAT. >> THESE PARTNERS THAT ARE WILLING TO PONY UP SOME MONEY IF WE ARE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING WILL BE THERE IN THE FUTURE. I I JUST HOPE WE'RE NOT SENDING THEM NEGATIVE MESSAGE AND I. >> I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WONDERFUL THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN BUT. >> I KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT ME AND THAT'S OK THAT'S WHY WE WORK AS A BOARD. >> I I OFFENSIVE A THEY ARE NOT JUST GOING TO BACK AWAY AND THAT IT TAKE ABOUT THE TABLE AND NEVER COME BACK WITH IT AGAIN, BUT I THINK IF WE HAVE SOMETHING. >> THAT COMES FORWARD SUCH AS DOING SOMETHING THAT THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN SOMETHING SPREAD. AS VICE MAYOR SAID THE PATHWAY TO NOWHERE SO APPARENTLY BUT WHAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THERE I DON'T SEE HOW THEY WOULD SAY OH NO WE'RE WE'RE NOT FOR YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A PLAN TO DO THAT WHOLE GULF COAST. TRAIL WAY ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH WARM MINERAL SPRINGS, THEY WANT TO DO THAT EVENTUALLY SO I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING LIKE A DO OR DIE SITUATION SO QUICK QUESTION. >> THIS WITH THIS QUALIFY AS USING PARK IMPACT FEES. >> BECAUSE THIS IS IS THIS ISN'T NEW. THIS IS A PARK CONTINUE TRAIL TO NEW. SO WE COULD USE PARK IMPACT FEES BUT SINCE ARE NOT I'M TRYING TO SKIN THIS CAT AND SALVAGE IT GUYS SO SO BEAR WITH IT'S WE HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED A $175,000 FOR THE PARKING ENHANCEMENTS. COULD WE INSTEAD OF THE PARKING ENHANCEMENT CHEAP, THE GULF COAST COMMUNITIES FOUNDATION DONATION OF THE 33,000 25,000 OF THOSE PARK IMPACT FEES IN THERE THAT WE DIDN'T I HAVE A MATCHING GRANT WILL JUST MAKE IT THE 33,000 SUBTRACT THAT OUT AND CREATE A NEW CIP FOR LEGACY TRAIL CONNECTION. THAT WAS IT. IT'S JUST CREATING A SEPARATE. CIP PROJECT SO THAT WAY THEN WE HAVE SOME MONEY IN IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE TALKS MIGHT GO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MAY HAPPEN. AND I'M JUST KIND OF THROWING IT OUT THERE IS A WAY TO SKIN A CAT NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN PLACE. AND IF COMES TO WORSE IN THE FUTURE NOTHING HAPPENS IN THE YEAR 2 THEN WEAKEN. FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT BECAUSE IF NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE YEAR TO THAT PARKING THING ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN EITHER. WHATEVER THE WILL OF. >> MISSION WE CAN DO >> SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE WANTS TO BE ANY DISCUSSION BUT OUTRIGHT CONSENSUS OF SEE IF I CAN. >> YOU GET YOUR TAKE FINGERS CITY I CAN GET >> TO CITY MANAGER TO CREATE A NEW CIP TITLE LEGACY TRAIL. >> CONNECTION TO WARM MINERAL SPRINGS. >> AND ALLOCATING >> A $125,000. FROM PARK IMPACT FEES. THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE LEGACY TRAIL EXTENSION PARKING ENHANCEMENT. TO GET THAT CITY PARK. I READ THAT BACK. >> TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO CREATE A CIP LEGACY TRAIL CONNECTION TO WARM MINERAL SPRINGS AND ALLOCATING A $125,000 FROM PARK IMPACT FEES THAT ARE CURRENTLY. >> AND LEGACY TRAIL PARKING EXTENSION ENHANCE TO THE BIG THIS ISN'T NEW. AND THAT IT'S A NEW CIP BUT MOVE YOUR REAL WRITING FROM YOUR JUST PUT HOLDING BIBLE AND WE'RE KILLING THIS THOUGH. WE CAN'T KILL THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS ONE HAS A DONATION AND WE'RE KEEPING SOME MONEY IN THERE WE'RE KEEPING 50,000 IN THAT. >> WE'RE NOT REALLY SPENT ANYTHING KNOW. >> WE'RE JUST REALLOCATING IN AND SHOWING A DESIRE THE LEGACY TRAIL CONNECTION. GOOD >> WITH THAT OKAY NOT SPENDING ANYTHING YOU'RE OKAY. >> OF TO PLACE WHAT WAS YOUR MIND I'M A NO NO I'M ALL THE CONVERSATION WE ALREADY HAD. >> AND TO BE HONEST. I DON'T THINK ANYONE CARES ABOUT THE FACT WE HAVE THE CIP PROJECT IS AVAILABLE WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE. 25,000 YEAH, >> I'M LOOKING AT IT LIKE A PLACE HOLDER MIGHT OK. >> THAT IT YES, YEAH WHAT I SING IT DOES TOO. COMMISSIONER DAVIS IT'S A HEDGE WITH WITH THOSE GUYS DOES SEND A MESSAGE. IT DOES SEND A MESSAGE THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE VALUE THIS PROJECT THAT AND THAT HAS VALUE KUZ AGAIN AUTISM JUST SAYING WELL WOULD NORTH PORT ISN'T TOO LIKELY. BUT AT THE SAME YOU DON'T THEY HAVE STEPPED UP THEY DO CARE THIS IS A GREAT CONCEPT WOULD JUST TRY TO FIDDLE PIECES TOGETHER WE'RE SORT OF AT THE SAME TIME WAS SORT OF A SAFE PLACE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY. >> EVEN IF IT'S A A PLACE HOLDER WHICH IS WHAT IT IS. >> I DON'T SEE THE I'M MORE AND HALF TO 2 DAYS OF THIS ALL SAY AND IT'S MEANINGLESS. >> IT IS TOSS, BUT BE TO HAVE TO BRING SOMETHING DO HEAR ALL THAT IS A I KNOW I PUT TO. >> I WAS IN THAT WALL SO WAS TALKING OK ALL RIGHT THAT WE DO HAVE A CONSENSUS FOR THAT THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL. >> WHAT ELSE I HAVE YOU IN THE QUEUE, BUT I DON'T ANYTHING ELSE HOAX. >> THEY DON'T NEED PARKS AND REC. >> WE HOPE THAT. >> I'VE GOT OTHERS BUT I I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO JUST KIND OF STOP AND PARKS AND REC AFTER THAT CONVERSATION I THINK WE ALL NEED A HEALTH DRINK, WE ALL NEED TO KIND CLEAR HAD TO GET READY FOR OUR FLORIDA I'M GETTING AT. SO THE CONSENSUS I WOULD DO TOMORROW I DO YEAH, A CUT TO >> WE DO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT SCHEDULED IN HERE ON THURSDAY, >> TIME AND THEY USUALLY DON'T KNOW VERY SLOW. >> AND WE NEED INTO THURSDAY OUT FOR MAY. >> IT. >> FRIDAY I GOT FRIDAY'S GOT X-RAYS FRIDAY'S IT'S TOO. >> THOSE STAY AT LIFE. 3 O'CLOCK. >> THURSDAY AT 3 O'CLOCK. >> WITH THAT MATE NEW COMMISSIONER MUCH AND >> APPOINTMENTS. IT'S GOOD. >> I SO. I'M OKAY WITH THERE'S GREAT I COULD DO THAT MAKE A MOTION I'M CAN I GET A CONSENSUS TO CONTINUE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETING TO MAKE THIS ONE A MOTION PLEASE. CAN'T TAKE MUCH ADMINISTRATIVE. I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE BUDGET WORKSHOP. >> DISCUSSION TO THURSDAY JUNE 27TH AT 03:00PM IN CITY HALL CHAMBERS. AND THAT'S JUNE 27 YES, ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL CONTINUE OUR BUDGET. >> BEATING TO THURSDAY 03:00PM HERE IN CITY CHAMBERS THAT'S JUNE 27 THAT WAS SECONDED BY. >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON DO I HAVE CORRECT 10 THAT WILL DO A VOICE VOTE VICE MAYOR BARRETT, YES, THERE'S EAS LAND AND SAY YES DO YES. COMMISSIONER AVERAGE. >> YEAH OKAY. >> VERY MUCH CITY CLERK COULD YOU MAKE SURE THIS GETS ON OUR CALENDARS ASAP. OKAY WHEN ENTERING THIS WE HOPE THAT CAN CONTINUE AND EVEN CONTINUE GET ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. >> YEAH, OKAY SO IT IS 3.46 S.