>> FRANK THOMAS ALWAYS MANAGER  I AM HERE TODAY WITH NOW  REOPENED DIDDY MARIO TELL  PEOPLE HERE HAVE ONLY BEEN  DOING THIS JOB, I'VE BEEN HERE  5 YES 5 YEARS EXCELLENT  EXCELLENT SO TELL PEOPLE WHAT  IT ENTAILS WHAT YOU DO. THE  PLAN IS SCHEDULED FOR SOLID  WASTE THE CITY I GO OUT AND  AGREE THE NEW RESIDENTS  TONIGHT, EDUCATE THEM ON  RECYCLE EXCELLENT SOUNDS  INTERESTING VERY AREA WHEN HE  FOUND INSIDE THE RECYCLING  BINS SHOULDN'T BE THERE SO  LET'S TRY TO TELL THE PEOPLE  HOW TO RECYCLE  ♪ MOST COMMON THING I FIND  FRANCIS PLASTIC BAGS.  >> SO START TO NOT RECYCLABLE  I FIND JUST POSTING THE  CONTAINER OR THE BAD THE  RECYCLE WITH HIM  ♪ SHOULD SIDE COUNTRY THAT'S  RIGHT INSIDE THE BLUE  CONTAINERS. AND THEY SHOULD BE  YOU TAKEN BACK TO THE GROCERY  STORE OR TOSS IN THE TRASH  EVERY YOU SEE A LOT OF  RECYCLING INSIDE THE  CONTAINERS I COME ACROSS A LOT  WANT TO DO THAT SO.  >> OKAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY  QUESTIONS YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK  AT OUR WEBSITE WW DOT NORTH  PORT FLORIDA DOT GOV SLASH  SOLID WASTE.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LOSO I'M THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND WE'RE GOING  TO TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S  IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GO KIT AND  WHAT SHOULD GO INSIDE OF IT,  IT'S IMPORTANT HAVE A GO BAG  BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT LAST  MINUTE TO PACK THEY'RE  DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ITEMS  THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FORGET  AND THE SCRAMBLE TO GET  EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO IT'S  IMPORTANT TO YOUR DOCUMENTS  SUCH AS ID'S INSURANCE  PAPERWORK TITLES FOR YOUR HOME  AND YOUR VEHICLES AND YOUR  BOATS JUST SO THAT IF YOUR  HOME DOES FLOOD OR ALL THOSE  DOCUMENTS ARE WITH YOU AND  THEY'RE SAFE BECAUSE YOU DON'T  WANT TO END UP LOSING THOSE  AND HAVING TO TRY TO REPLACE  THOSE LATER ON ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAG THAT YOU SHOULD THINK  ABOUT WHAT MEDICATIONS YOU  MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AHEAD OF  TIME FOR UNDER A STATE OF  EMERGENCY YOU ARE ABLE TO  REFILL YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS  AHEAD OF TIME EVEN IF THEY'RE  NOT DO YET. SO IT'S IMPORTANT  TO DO THAT ALSO IN YOUR GO  BAGS YOU SHOULD HAVE  NON-PERISHABLE FOOD FLASHLIGHT  BATTERIES, A RADIO THAT IS  BATTERY POWERED AND EXTRA  BATTERIES SHOULD ALL POWER GO  OUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO  BROADCAST ON 97.5 FM ANY  EMERGENCY INFORMATION SO BE  SURE TO HAVE  ♪ BATTERY POWERED RADIO READY IN  TUNED IN TO 97 POINT.  >> I'M STACEY LOS SALE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN FLOOD ZONES AND  EVACUATION ZONES ARE IN  SARASOTA COUNTY. WE CALL THEM  EVACUATION LEVELS.  >> SO FLOOD ZONES ARE  GENERATED BY FEMA AND THEY'RE  USED TO DETERMINE THE  LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU'LL FLOOD  AND THEY'RE USED TO DETERMINE  IF YOU NEED FLOOD INSURANCE IF  YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE ON YOUR  HOME. NOW THE EVACUATION ZONES  ARE BASED ON STORM SURGE DATA  THAT COMES FROM THE NATIONAL  HURRICANE CENTER. AND THEY USE  TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS  HURRICANE VULNERABILITY FOR  STORM SURGE FOR THE AREA AND  WE USE THOSE TO DETERMINE WHO  NEEDS TO EVACUATE DURING A  STORM SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO  UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A  DIFFERENCE IF YOU'RE  INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT  EVACUATION ZONE YOU ARE AND  WHICH WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU  DO. YOU CAN USE YOUR SEARCH  ENGINE OF CHOICE. AND TYPE  SARASOTA COUNTY KNOW YOUR  LEVEL AND THAT WILL TAKE YOU  TO THE SARASOTA COUNTY  GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.  >> WATER IN US WELL THAT'S  KIND OF THE DITCH. MY YOUR  HOUSE IS NOT FLOODING.  ♪ WITHIN US AFTER  ♪ STORM EVENT WATER SHOULD BE IN  THAT SWELL UP TO 72 HOURS  AFTER THE STORM. THAT ALLOWS  THE FILTER TO GET THE STUFF  THAT CAME FOR ROOM AND THE  ROAD OUT OF THE WATER SO THAT  WHEN REACHES THE  ♪ HABITAT IT NO LONGER HAS THOSE  CONTAMINANTS IT ALSO PROVIDES  OPPORTUNITY TO SLOW DOWN  WATERS SO THAT THE WATER  DOESN'T GO SO FAST THAT THEIR  ROADS. ROADWAYS ANY OTHER  INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WHEN YOU  SEE WATER IN ONLY OKAY GOOD  MORNING TODAY IS TUESDAY MAY  14TH 2024 IT 10:00AM WE'RE IN  THE CITY CHAMBERS AND I ALL  THE CITY COMMISSION REGULAR  MEETING TO ORDER.  >> THIS IS GOING TO BE A  HYBRID MEETING BUT I'M NOT  SURE IF COMMISSIONER AND  RICHES  ♪ >> ON SO WHEN COULDN'T BE  HERE. CRASH NOT AT ALL OKAY.  SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A  HEATING TO WILL SKIP THAT. SO  PRESIDENT COMMISSIONERS  PRESENT OUR MYSELF MAYOR  VICE-MAYOR STOKES.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND  COMMISSIONER LANGDON SO WE DO  HAVE A QUORUM. I'D LIKE TO  RECOGNIZE FORMER THAT SARASOTA  COUNTY COMMISSIONER ALAN I DO  THE AUDIENCE.  GOOD TO SEE YOU. ALSO PRESENT  OUR CITY MANAGER. BUT YOUR  CITY ATTORNEY SLAYTON CITY  PARK, LAOS AND BOARD  SPECIALIST BOEHNER I'M SORRY  DIDN'T CHECK POLICE CHIEF  DEPUTY TO IS AND FIRE TITUS IS  HE BACK THERE. YES, THANK YOU  VERY MUCH I LIKE THE THAT HAND  GOING RIGHT UP THERE. LIKE TO  CALL TUESDAY FROM THE NORTH  PORT ART CENTER TO LEAD US IN  PLEDGE.  >> THE LAST OF THE UNITED  STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE  REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS  ONE NATION UNDER GOD  INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND  JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU  >> I'M LOOKING FOR AN APPROVAL  OF THE AGENDA SO  >> NO CHANGES I LIKE THAT.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE AN A.  A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA  BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL AND  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON SO.  >> WE WILL VOTE FOR FIRST ALL  THAT'S HOW I HEARD IS THAT WE  HAVE A MOTION MADE BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON AND  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.  >> MCDOWELL, ALL RIGHT THAT  WAS NOTHING ELSE LET'S VOTE.  THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.  AND I WANT MY MIND IS.  >> AND ONE DAY IS NEXT TUESDAY  JUST THROW IT OFF BECAUSE  PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE HERE  AND I WAS JUST THINKING VOICE  VOTE HE'S BEEN DOING THAT  PASSES 4 TO 0 SORRY FOR THAT.  >> STUMBLING THERE DO WE HAVE  PUBLIC COMMENT. YES WE OKAY.  >> HAPPEN PHONE 4, 1, 2, 6, 8,  3, 2, COMING UP OUT FORT PAYNE  CITY COMMISSION REGULAR HIM  DASH 0, 7, 4, 6, POSSIBLE  ACTION REGARDING. THINK IT  WILL MEETING WITH MAYOR SAID  THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND ARE  REPRESENTED AND BISCUITS FOR  MALE THING THAT I WOULD URGE  EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION TO  VOTE IT REACHING TO OTHERS AND  LOCAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT TO  THE BEST WE ONE OF OUR. IT'S  NOT OUR GREATEST NATURAL  RESOURCE HERE.  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS PART.  THANK YOU.  >> JOSH SMITH. I HOPE DURING  THE 2 PETITIONS THAT ARE  COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY, THE  PROPERTY OWNERS OPINIONS ARE  SERIOUSLY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.  THE CITY HAS A BAD IMAGE FOR  NOT LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS.  I BELIEVE THESE PROPERTY  ISSUES ARE A GOOD WAY FOR  PEOPLE TO HELP THE  COMMISSIONER SEE ISSUES IN A  DIFFERENT WAY.  IN PERSON. I HAVE IN.  >> ALL BY DEBBIE BLACKWELL.  AND LUCY BROWN BERKS. YOU'RE  TALKING.  >> OKAY THANK YOU HEARING ME  MY NAME IS DAVID FABER I'M  HERE TODAY AS PRESIDENT. THE  SARASOTA LINES FOR START  PRESERVATION. WE ARE COUNTY  WIDE ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO  PROMOTING THE PRESERVATION. A  HISTORIC RESEARCH THROUGH  EDUCATION ADVOCACY AND  PROGRAMS. OUR BOARD HAS COME  PRIZED A RETIRED AND ACTIVE  PROFESSIONALS IN A VARIETY OF  RELATED FIELD, INCLUDING DO  NOT LIMITED TO HISTORIC  PRESERVATION. FINANCE LAW  DEVELOPMENT AND MARKETING. I'M  HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO  APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 24. YES,  0, 7, 4, 6, THE PROPOSAL TO  HOLD A ROUND TABLE MEETING  ABOUT PROTECTING WARMING OR  THE WARM MINERAL SPRINGS,  RESOURCES AND THIS WOULD BE  BETWEEN CITY COUNTY AND STATE  OFFICIALS. ENVIRONMENTAL  JACZKO ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND  STUART RESOURCE THAT WARMER  SPRINGS ARE EXCEPTIONAL  IMPORTANCE AND ARE RECOGNIZED.  WELL ALI NATIONALLY STATEWIDE  AND LOCALLY FOR THEIR VALUE. 3  BUILDINGS WERE DESIGNED BY  JACK WEST ONE OF THE PREMIER,  TAX ASSOCIATED WITH  INTERNATIONALLY UNKNOWN. SURE  SO SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE THEY  REBUILD IS PART OF THE FLORIDA  CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION. YOU  CAN SERVE SPRING AND  REHABILITATE BUILDINGS WILL BE  A SIGNIFICANT DRAW FOR ECO AND  HERITAGE TOURISM. SIGNIFICANT  ECONOMIC DRIVERS IN FLORIDA.  THE BUILDINGS HAVE SUFFERED  FROM DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND  HURRICANE IN DAMAGE. THE  SARASOTA RESTART POSITION AS  PRIME AND IT'S BOARDS  EXPERTISE AS WELL AS OUTSIDE  PROFESSIONALS DEVELOPER  PRESERVATION PLAN THAT  PROVIDES A BLUEPRINT FOR THE  REHABILITATION OF THE  BUILDINGS BASED ON THE CROSS  ESTIMATE FROM YOUR ARCHITECT  SWEET SPARKMAN I DISTRIBUTED  THE PLAN TO ALL OF YOU I HOPE  YOU GOT IT. THANK PLEASE  APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 24 DASH 2,  7, 4, 6, AS A FIRST STEP FOR  THE PRESERVATION OF NORTH  PORT'S ONLY RECOGNIZED  HISTORIC RESOURCES. SARASOTA  RESORT PRESERVATION STAND  READY TO HELP IN THIS EFFORT.  THANK YOU.  >> GOOD MORNING. AND BLACK  WELL A SARASOTA COUNTY  REGISTERED VOTER THAT LIVES IN  PORT. FLORIDA MASTER  NATURALIST A RETIRED EDUCATOR  AND YOUR NEIGHBOR. WHEN  MINERAL SPRINGS, AS MUCH  STONEMAN DOUGLAS SAID THE  WORST THING YOU CAN DO IS  NOTHING. AND AS A PART OF THAT  NEIGHBORHOOD THAT KIND OF SEE  THAT NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE FOR  A WHILE. EVERYTHING'S IN  PLACE. HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND  KNOWLEDGEABLE STAFF THAT IS  PREPARED TO PROVIDE  ENVIRONMENTALLY CUTTING EDGE  SITE THAT PROVIDES HEALTHY AND  MENTAL HEALTH WELLNESS  PROGRAMS STAFF, IT'S BEEN IS  OUTSTANDING. THAT COULD BE  EXEMPLARY FOR THE CITY OF PORT  OF FLORIDA'S ONLY ONLY ONE  MINERAL SPRING. AS AN  INTERNATIONAL ECO TOURISM  DESTINATION. IMAGINE WHAT WE  CAN DO. TO SUPPORT THE  PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF  THE CULTURAL RESOURCES AND  NATURAL SYSTEMS OF THE WARM  MINERAL SPRINGS PARK. MATCHING  WHAT WE CAN DO. TO PROMOTE  PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE  ECOLOGICAL IMPORTANCE OF THE  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS  INTERPRETIVE PROGRAMS SPECIAL  EVENTS, A SOCIAL FUNCTIONS.  IMAGINE WHAT WE CAN DO. TO  PROVIDE A VOLUNTEER PROJECTS.  SERVICES AND GENERAL  ASSISTANCE TO THE PARK. AND  THIS IS PART OF YOUR VISION TO  BE RECOGNIZED AS A LEADER IN  PROVIDING PARKS FACILITIES  PROGRAMS THAT INCREASE  WELLNESS MITCH THE LIFE  EXPERIENCES WITHIN OUR  COMMUNITY. AND THE MISSION OF  THIS CITY TO MAKE HEALTHY  SOCIALLY REWARDING ACTIVITIES  THROUGH THE PRESERVATION OF  CULTURAL RESOURCES. THE  TRADITION OF DIVERSE  HIGH-QUALITY PART AND NATURAL  SPACES WHICH WE'VE GOT THAT  POTENTIAL THAT'S THE MISSION  HAS I'VE TAUGHT SEVERELY  PROFOUNDLY HANDICAPPED PEOPLE  FOR 37 YEARS SO I WOULD ALWAYS  LIKE TO SEE THE INCORPORATION  OF WHEELCHAIRS. AND CONCRETE  PADS THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCLIMATE  STAFF AND THAT THAT POPULATION  IS INCLUDED. BUT PLACES FOR  BURNING FOR NATURAL WALKS  FITNESS CHILDREN'S ACTIVITY  CENTERS GIFT SHOPS. SPA.  IMAGINE WHAT WE CAN DO  TOGETHER. RECREATION IS  ESSENTIAL TO MENTAL AND  PHYSICAL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING  THAT'S GIVING MAKE YOUR BETS.  THE OF CITY OF NORTH PORT HAVE  MORE THAN EXPRESSED THAT AS A  PRIORITY. VOTES IN SURVEYS.  HOST OF WAYS THE CLIMATE  CONCERNS OF OUR SOUTHWEST  FLORIDA ENVIRONMENT REQUIRED  THE TREE CANOPY THAT IS  ESTABLISHED OUT THERE. TREES  KEEP THE HEAT LOW OR YOU'LL  NOTICE THAT THIS NEXT COMING.  2 MONTHS. AND THIS ESTABLISHED  STREAMS HAVE TO STAY PLANET.  PROTECT OPEN SPACE  CONSERVATION WHICH IS ALSO  PART OF THE CITY BELIEVE. TO  COMMENT WHICH MEANS MORE  VOICES RESTAURANT OFF WHEN THE  HURRICANES COME MORE TREES  MORE BUSH'S LESS RUNOFF. YOU  HAVE TO BE AGREEMENT NOT A  NARROWING BUT A WIDENING NOT  THAT INNOCENT MISUNDERSTANDING  ACCENT ABILITY AND WAS THAT,  THINK YOU IMAGINE WHAT WE CAN  DO TOGETHER.  >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. LUCY  FROM BIRTH.  >> ALL ABOUT PARISH.  >> AND WAS A BROWN FOR A  PRESIDENT PORT. I THINK THAT'S  SOMETHING I'M HERE TO SUPPORT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL A  PROPOSAL HAVE A ROUND TABLE  WITH PEOPLE FROM NORTH PORT  PEOPLE FROM THE CITY FROM THE  STATE FROM THE COUNTY TO COME  UP WITH A PLAN. IT'S BEEN WAS  5 YEARS. VOTED ON A MASTER  PLAN. PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING  THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A  LOW-IMPACT WAY TO RESTORE  SPRING AND THE PARK AROUND IT.  AND WE ALSO HAD LIKE SHE'S  LIKE EVERYBODY SAID WE'VE HAD  THE SURVEY WE'VE HAD ELECTION.  PORT 40,000 PEOPLE. WE WERE  WHAT POLICE SHORT. RECREATION  SPACE PARKLAND AS PUT 5 THE  STATE AS FAR AS THE NUMBER  ACRES PERSON. NOW WE'RE AT  90,000 BABY AND GROWING AND  IT'S TIME WE PULL THOSE  ANOTHER AREA AND PUT IT.  APARTMENT COMPLEXES HOUSING  DEVELOPMENT OR WHATEVER FOR IT  FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM  KEEPING THAT LAND SAFE. BUT WE  HAVE A EVERYBODY SAID TURN  LEFT OR TURN LET NATURAL  RESOURCES, THE WARM MINERAL  SPRINGS AND I THINK THAT  GETTING NEW EYES. I OPTIONS ON  RECREATING THE PARK WHICH IF  YOU'VE ONLY HAD THE STAFF TO  HELP YOU WITH THIS YEAR  DECISIONS. SO.  >> WHAT'S IT GOING WHAT'S IT  GOING TO COST NOTHING NOTHING  I MEAN WOULD GET WHAT YOU ALL  GOT TO LOSE NOTHING WHEN YOU  HAVE HAVE TO DO IS SUPPORT  THIS PLAN. IT'S MORE INPUT  BECAUSE ALL OF FOR A LONG AS  MORE INPUT. PLACE FROM THINGS  WE COULD DO MAYBE THE STATE  HAS SOME IDEAS. THE COUNTY HAS  SOME IDEAS MAY BE WORKING WITH  THE STATE THE COUNTY IN NORTH  PORT TOGETHER COULD CREATE  SOMETHING SPECIAL NORTH PORT.  >> SO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE  PLEASE.  >> PLEASE SUPPORT THIS THIS  AGENDA ITEM THAT'S GOING TO BE  FOR LITTLE BIT.  >> MY NAME IS THAT HE IS I  SUPPORT IDEA OF A ROUNDTABLE  DISCUSSION. I RECENTLY JUST  MORE MOVED AND DISCOVERED ALL  THE THINGS THAT ARE THINGS AND  NOBODY PUBLIC TALKS ABOUT.  PONCE DE LEON, A STAPLE FOR  CULTURE HE ACTUALLY TRYING TO  FIND STORY. THE ALL THE WAY  BACK TO. WHICH HARBOR. THERE'S  A LOT OF HISTORY AND WHEN  BELIEVE WE SHOULD PROTECT IT.  ONE THINGS AS 4,000 YEAR-OLD  HUMAN REMAINS AND SO BONES AND  CAVE SYSTEMS. THE SPRING EVEN  DEPOSITS INTO MYAKKA RIVER. SO  REALLY IMPORTANT TO KIND KEEP  POSSIBLY CAN. THUS BRING  ITSELF AS MANY HOPING  PROPERTIES THAT WE REALLY  DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IF WE  GET RID OF THAT. BUT ALSO IN  HOW MANY MORE. WE REALLY DO  HAVE A LOT. IN NORTH PORT WE  SEEM TO HAVE A NEW HABIT OF  DESTROYING OUT FOR WIND TO  MAKE ROOM FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS  HUMAN-MADE THINGS AND THE  SPRING IS A NATURAL THING THAT  SHOULD BE CARED FOR NOT AROUND  OR DESTROYED BY  >> WE SHOULD PRESERVE WHAT'S  THERE AND BUILD UP THE LITTLE  BUILDINGS THAT ARE  >> ALREADY THERE.  >> MAKE IT MORE WITH THE  TRACTION FOR FLORIDIANS TO  ENJOY. THOUGH STORY OF PONCE  DE LEON. BRING BACK FLORIDA  CULTURE LIKE TO HAVE THAT WHEN  I WAS A KID TALKED ABOUT IN  THE STORY BOOKS, THE NATIVE  AMERICANS ALL OF THAT WE'LL  TALK ABOUT IT MUCH ANYMORE WE  FORGET ABOUT IT FORGET THAT  THEY'RE THERE IF WE GET THAT  THIS IS THEIR LAST. WE'RE ON  NATIVE AMERICAN LAND. AND IF  WE BUILD ON THAT. HOW WELL  THAT'S GOING TO GO. IF YOU  THINK ABOUT HOW THE SPRINGS  BOAT, IT'S BUILT ON. SO DON'T  KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT IT'S  BOTH ON LAND THAT IS YOU WE  CRACK AVOID IF YOU PUT A BIG  BUILDING. ANYTHING LIKE THAT  IT'S GOING FALL AND. AS A  YOUNGER PERSON WE NEED MORE  THINGS TO DO IN THIS TOWN THAT  ARE. AND SEE WE NEED ALL  FITTINGS IN BEFORE THINGS THAT  WE SHOULD BE PRESERVING I  THINK WE SHOULD JUST AT A  PRESERVE THE SPRING. THANK YOU  EVERYONE. THANK WE WILL MOVE  TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.  >> THE CURRENT VACANCIES FOR  THE FOLLOWING BOARDS AND  COMMITTEES INCLUDE OUR  ADVISORY BOARD AUDITOR  SELECTION COMMITTEE CHARTER  REVIEW ADVISORY BOARD CITIZENS  TAX OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD  HISTORIC AND CULTURAL ADVISORY  BOARD. POLICE OFFICERS PENSION  TRUST FUND BOARD OF TRUSTEES  PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY  BOARD PLANNING AND ZONING  ADVISORY BOARD THAT PARKED  VISOR COMMITTEE AND ZONING  BOARD OF APPEALS SARASOTA  COUNTY ADVISORY COUNCIL  VACANCIES ONE RESIDENT  OF NORTH PORT TO SERVE ON THE  CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE  AND ONE RESIDENT OF NORTH PORT  TO SERVE ON THE CITIZENS  OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR SCHOOL  FACILITY PLANNING IF ANYONE  WOULD LIKE FURTHER INFORMATION  PLEASE SEE THE CITY CLERK'S  OFFICE THANK YOU. RIGHT THANK  YOU.  >> I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM 4  WHICH IS THE AGENDA CITY  MANAGER HAVE ANY ITEMS BEN  HOLT.  >> IT'S TO UP 2 ITEMS FOR THE.  WITH 4 DASH 0, 5, 7, 7, AND  FOR FOR A CHANCE 6, 7, POT.  >> ALL RIGHT SO I'M LOOKING  FOR A MOTION MAYOR WE HAVE  PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY.  >> HALLE BAILEY.  >> WERE THERE. GOOD MORNING,  CHARLIE BAILEY LANES TURNING  WITH THE LAW WILLING TO  PARKER.  >> I MAY BE A LITTLE CONFUSED.  TOP OF THE AGENDA. I HAVE I  SUBMITTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM FOR  SEE WHICH WAS THAT THE 3RD  AMENDMENT TO THE SABAL TRACE  DEVELOPING AGREE OR UTILITY  AGREEMENT. BUT UNDERSTANDING  THAT IT HAD BEEN PULLED. IT  WAS 4 CI HURT 40 IN 4 H IT'S  BEING PULLED WITH A BALANCE TO  BE APPROVED.  >> SPOKE WITH FRIDAY. AND SO  IF I FORESEE THAT RELATES.  >> TO THE 3RD AMENDMENT TO  SABAL TRACE DEVELOPMENT  PARTNERS, WASTE WATER AND  WASTEWATER SYSTEM DEVELOPERS  AGREEMENT THAT'S NOT BEEN  POLL.  >> NOW FORESEES NOT. THE  AGREEMENT FOR DICK OKAY.  GENDER IT.  >> OKAY THEN IF IF YOU ARE NOT  PULLING FOR SEEING FOR SEE AT  THIS POINT IS TO BE CONSIDERED  WITH THE BALANCE OF THE  CONSENT ITEMS AND APPROVE  THOSE CONSENT ITEMS THAT I PUT  ON A COAT AND TIE FOR NOTHING.  >> HE HAS BEEN PULLED THAT IS  YOUR ITEM THAT WAS REMEMBERING  AND GENTLEST AMENDED. I SAY OK  OK THANK FROM OKAY. OKAY,  THANKS FOR THAT YET MIKE  FORCING US BY SUBMIT ITS BIG  PART MAKE SURE THAT I WAS  THINKING SOMETHING WAS GERMANE  TO WHAT WAS PULLED.  >> SO CHARLIE BAILEY LANCET  REPORT LAUFER WAIVES PARKING  BETTER SPEAKERS CARD. I'M  UNDERSTANDING THAT  ITEM 4 THE IS BEING I'M HERE  SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF AND  URGED THE CITY COMMISSION'S  APPROVAL THAT ITEM I REPRESENT  SABAL TRACE DEVELOPMENT  PARTNERS LLC WHICH IS THE  OWNER OF THAT OF THAT OF THE  207 ACRES. THAT IS THE FORMER  SABAL TRACE GOLF COURSE. IT  WAS APPROVED IS ENTITLED BY  THE CITY COMMISSION TO A COMP  PLAN AMENDMENT ULDC AMENDMENT  REZONING DEVELOPMENT MASTER  PLAN APPLICATION THAT I WORKED  ON WITH MAYA A FRIEND AND  COLLEAGUE PETER VAN BUSKIRK A  PLANNER AND ENGINEER WITH THE  CAYMAN WERE SO SEATS FROM.  BEING THAT WAS A BLIGHTED  PARCELS AN INFILL AND  REDEVELOPMENT SITE WHICH ARE  ALWAYS THE HARDEST BECAUSE  YOU'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT ALL THE  WAY AROUND YOU. BUT MY PRINCE  WAS LIKE LIKE MARK CARRINGER  AND KIM FIELDS ARE WONDERFUL  PEOPLE TO WORK WITH A REALLY  PART THE CITY AND AND THEIR  NEIGHBORS, THE DIFFERENT  NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SURROUND US  SABAL TRACE AS IT'S BEING  REDEVELOPED THE CENTRAL PARK.  IT PORT. IT IS A BROWNFIELD  REDEVELOPMENT AND THAT IS I  THINK IT'S THE FIRST  BROWNFIELD IDENTIFIED IN THE  CITY OF PORT. AND THE  DIFFICULTIES THAT COME WITH  THAT IN TERMS OF GETTING  PERMITTED AND TO BE CLEANED UP  AND THE COST AND TIME  ASSOCIATED THAT WITH THAT  WHICH IS SUBSTANTIALLY  DELAYED. THE DEVELOPMENT OF  THE PROJECT NOT TO MENTION THE  PANDEMIC ALL THAT IS RELEVANT  IN THE SENSE THAT MY CLIENTS  ARE NOT A PUBLICLY TRADED  COMPANY THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS  WHO PORT THEIR HEART SOUL AND  A TON OF MONEY INTO THIS. AND  UNDER THE REGULATIONS THAT  REQUIRES PROBABLY A PRACTICE  THAT PREDATES ANYBODY THAT MAY  BE IN THIS ROOM. THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT IS UNIQUE IN  THAT IT REQUIRES A DEVELOPER  TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT SPECIFY  WHEN WATER AND WASTEWATER  CAPACITY FEES ARE TO BE PAID  FOR PROJECT. THAT'S I'VE NEVER  DONE OTHER JURISDICTION AND  TYPICALLY THAT'S DONE AT THE  TIME OF A BUILDING PERMIT OR  CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OF  FOR GOING NUTS. MY CLIENT  ENTER THIS AGREEMENT AND TODAY  HAS PAID $612,000 PREPAID  $612,000 THE CITY FOR WATER  AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES  AND HASN'T BUILT THE FIRST  BUILDING YET SO AMENDMENT  BEFORE YOU IS TO ALLOW  MERCIFULLY IT WILL BE A 3RD  AMENDMENT TO ALLOW US TO SHIFT  THE SCHEDULE A TIME FRAME  WHICH WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TIP  THE PAY WATER AND WASTEWATER  CAPACITY FEES. THE NEXT  PAYMENT DO WOULD BE ALMOST  $600,000. MY CLIENT DOESN'T  HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF  FRONTING ONE 0.2 MILLION  DOLLARS FOR WATER AND  WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES AT  THIS TIME SO WE'RE SEEKING  THAT THE COUNT WITHOUT THE  FIRST TIME BEING BUILT YET SO  WE'RE SEEKING THE CITY TO  PLEASE APPROVE THE 3RD  AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPED  THIS AGREEMENT THAT WILL PUSH  OUT THE TIMEFRAME TO MORE  REALISTIC SCHEDULED TO  PURCHASE THE OTHER CAPACITIES  ADDITION CLEANING UP SOME  OTHER ITEMS UPDATING THOSE  PROVISION OR FIND RATES THAT  ARE APPLICABLE WHEN FUTURE  PAYMENTS ARE MADE. IN ADDITION  TO SOME OTHER CLEANUP ON AND  SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY A  REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE  AMENDMENT IF YOU COULD HAVE  ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO  ANSWER.  >> OKAY.  >> VERY GET. ANYTHING ELSE  CITY CLERK. ALL RIGHT SO NOW  I'M LOOKING OR MOTION FOR THE  CONSENT AGENDA.  >> GOING MAKE A MOTION TO  APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. AND  H OR DISCUSSION SECOND.  >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, BUT  THE CONSENT AGENDA. FOR  APPROVAL FULLY ISD AND AGE FOR  DISCUSSION AND THAT WAS  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON SO ANYTHING ELSE  >> THAT  >> PASSES 4 TO 0. A CITY  MANAGER. ITEM D COMMISSIONER  OKAY.  >> THE I SUBMITTED QUESTIONS.  >> AUDIO  >> I SUBMITTED A FEW QUESTIONS  AND I DID RECEIVE SOME ANSWERS  BUT I DID HAVE A FOLLOW-UP  ONE. AND THAT WAS RELATED TO  HOW MUCH HAS THE DEVELOPER  PAID SO FAR IN CAPACITY IN  CAPACITY RESERVES. BECAUSE  WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC  COMMENTER AND WHAT WE SEE IN  THE LEGISLATIVE DON'T MATCH.  SO IF I COULD GET SOME  CLARITY.  >> THE DEVELOPER HAS A. HAS  CITIES. UNIT.  >> A  >> DEVELOPER HAS HAS CITIES IS  FOR A 150 UNITS TO D. BELIEVE  IS IN NEED. SOLD OUT IN GREEN.  >> I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED  BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT  AGREEMENT IF YOU'RE SAYING  HE'S ALREADY PAID A 150  RESERVED IS THAT SOMETHING HE  HAS TO PAY EVERY SINGLE YEAR  OR IS IT A ONE TIME THING THAT  HE PAYS.  >> SO IT'S IT'S A ONE TIME  PAYMENT AND FOR HIS TO HIS  UNITS ARE SPREAD OUT OVER THE  ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. STARTED IN  2019 IT WAS SUPPOSED TO END IN  2024 AND THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER  AMENDMENTS PUSHING OUT THE  DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE VARIOUS  PROBLEMS THEY'VE HAD SAY. SO  THIS NEW AMENDMENT IS PUSHING  OUT THE REMAINING. UNITS BE ON  THE 100 AND INITIAL 150 UNITS  SO THAT NEXT PAYMENT WOULD BE  DUE JANUARY FIRST 2025 IN THE  FINAL PAYMENT BE DUE JANUARY  FIRST 2020.  >> TOTAL HERE CESAR THEY  RESERVING. EAT.  >> ALL RIGHT THE AMOUNT THEY  PAY TO DATE FOR THE 150 TO  612,750. AND THEN THE TOTAL  NUMBER OF UNIT 2. 7.70.  >> OKAY AND WHEN DID THEY MAKE  THE PAYMENT FOR THE 6.12.  612,000.  >> IF THEY WERE TO PAYMENT.  >> FIRST WAS ALRIGHT FEBRUARY  OF 2024. THE SECOND ONE WAS  IN. MARCH.  >> 2022. I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF  THAT INFORMATION AND AGREEMENT  OR IN THE LEGISLATIVE IN THE  LEGISLATIVE TEXT. IT SAYS. SO  THAT THE DEVELOPERS INITIAL  PAYMENT. SHALL BE MADE.  JANUARY OF 2025. SO TO ME  THAT'S SAYING NOTHING HAS BEEN  PAID DATE.  >> I APPRECIATE THE CLARITY  BUT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE  AGREEMENT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED  TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY  PAID SOME OF THESE YEAR SEES  MAYBE I MISSED SO I JUST. WAS  LOOKING FOR CLARITY BECAUSE  IT. I WAS NOT IN FAVOR  EXTENDING THIS BECAUSE YOU  KNOW THIS IT'S BEEN GOING BACK  SINCE 2019.  >> OH I'M I'M THE DEVELOPER'S  AGREEMENT DOES STATE THAT 612  7.50 HAS BEEN PAID TO THEIR  150 OUR SEAS. WHERE IS THAT  AGREEMENT PLACE THE 4TH  WHEREAS PAGE WANT TO BE GREEN.  >> AND THEN I APPRECIATE THAT  I WILL LET IT GO BUT GOING BY  LEGISLATIVE TEXT DOES NOT  MATCH. THAT'S WHAT WAS  CONCERNING TO ME AND THAT'S  WHY I ASKED HAVE PULLED. SO  I'M GRATEFUL TO HEAR THAT THE  DEVELOPER HAS MADE A  CONTRIBUTION. THANK YOU VERY  MUCH BECAUSE HAD THAT NOT BEEN  DISCLOSED. I WAS GOING TO BE  TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYBODY  TO APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT  BECAUSE YOU KNOW THIS IS GOING  SINCE 2019 AND WE'VE EXTENDED  MULTIPLE TIMES THANK YOU FOR  THAT I ALREADY POPPED ANYTHING  ELSE. OKAY.  >> HAVING US ON THE SCREEN. SO  I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR  THAT ONE.  >> I MAKE A MOTION MAKE A  MOTION TO APPROVE THE 3RD  AMENDMENT TO THE ON CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND SABAL TRACE  DEVELOPER DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS  LLC FOR THE WATER AND  WASTEWATER SYSTEMS DEVELOPER'S  AGREEMENT.  >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO  APPROVE THE 3RD AMENDMENT TO  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND  STABLE TRACE DEVELOPMENT  PARTNERS LLC THE WATER AND  WASTEWATER SYSTEM DEVELOPERS  AGREEMENT THAT WAS SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER LANGDON IF  THERE'S NOTHING OUT. AND THAT  PASSES 4 TO 0. I THANK YOU.  MISTER BAILEY. MOVING ON  CONSENT ITEM H WHICH WAS TOLD  THE MANAGER WHO PULLED US.  COMMISSIONER OKAY. MCDOWELL  TAKEAWAY THANK YOU MAYOR.  >> THIS QUESTION REALLY HAS A  SOMETHING FOR THE CITY  ATTORNEY IT'S A LETTER OF  INTENT AND I JUST NEED  ASSURANCES BECAUSE IN THIS  LETTER OF INTENT. IT SAYS WE  THE CITY I UNDERSTAND THAT  THIS PROPOSED PURCHASE WOULD  INVOLVE THE CAPITAL COST OF  48 MILLION DOLLARS AND THE  CITY IS PREPARED TO COMMIT TO  THIS INVESTMENT. WE HAVE NO  AGREEMENTS WITH WEST VILLAGES  IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT GRANTED  WE HAVE NO AGREEMENTS WITH  PEACE RIVER EITHER. BUT AT THE  SAME TIME WITH THIS LETTER OF  INTENT AND OUR WILLINGNESS TO  COMMIT I WANT TO MAKE SURE  THAT THIS IS NOT LEGALLY  BINDING IN ANY WAY.  >> A LETTER OF INTENT IS NOT A  CONTRACT THAT IS JUST THAT IS  A LETTER MANIFESTING AND  INTENT TO CONTRACT THE PARTIES  CAN STILL GO TO THE TABLE AND  ME GO SHE A CONTRACT TERMS AND  INCLUDING YOU KNOW POSSIBLY  THE TIMING NOT ENTER A  CONTRACT THAT THOSE  NEGOTIATIONS FALL DOWN FOR  WHATEVER REASON. YOU KNOW  GENERALLY SPEAKING YOU ARE  SIGNED SOMETHING THE MISSION  AND FAITH THAT IT IS THE  CITY'S INTENTION ENTER INTO AN  AGREEMENT NEGOTIATED. YOU KNOW  THE MORE REFINED OF THIS DEAL  SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT  CITY IS PREPARED TO DO. MAY  WANT TO CONSIDER SYSTEM. BUT  IT IS NOT A BINDING CONTRACT.  >> THANK YOU FOR THAT  ASSURANCE CITY THE OTHER  QUESTION THAT I HAVE. THE  ATTACHMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED.  BECAUSE OF MY I WAS LOOKING AT  THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY  AND I'M CURIOUS WHY WHY DID  SOUTH WEST WATER TREATMENT  PLANT.  >> GO FROM.  >> 0.7 TO 2. IS THAT BECAUSE  THE PLANT IT'S THE PLANT  CHANGING ITS OUTPUT BECAUSE  LAST YEAR'S IT WAS. FOR. IT  WENT FROM 0.7 TO 2 TO 4. AND  IT'S STAYING AT 2.  >> I LOST A DISTRICT  OPERATIONS. AS PART OF  >> AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE GOING  TO BE WORKING WITH WITH THE  DEVELOPER FOR THE ADDITIONAL  ALLOCATIONS FROM PEACE RIVER.  >> WE'LL CHANGE THE 2 MILLION  FROM THE SOUTHWEST PLANNED AT  THIS TIME. FOR IT, THEY WON'T  NEED TO EXPAND THAT POINT  RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THAT WOULD  BE AN EXPANSION NUMBER WITH A  4 MILLION GALLONS THAT THAT  PLAN IS CAPABLE BEING EXPANDED  UP TO 4 MONTHS.  >> CHIEF THANK YOU FOR THAT  AND THEN PEACE RIVER. LOOKING  AT THOSE COMPARISONS.  ATTACHMENT SECOND. SO PEACE  RIVER ON ATTACHMENT 3. IF YOU  LOOK THOSE FROM 4 POINT THEY  WON AND I'M ROUNDING TO 8.1 7.  BUT LAST YEAR'S PROJECTIONS  STATE ALL AT 4 POINT. WANT AND  IF WE'RE REQUESTING TO GO UP  TO TO WHY ARE WE ACTUALLY  GOING UP 3.3.  >> ATTACHMENT 3 IS THE. KEEP  DE LO AND PEACE RIVER ALLOWS A  PERCENTAGE INCREASE FOR A SO  THAT SO THAT IF WE HAVE A PEAK  DAY WE CAN INCREASE OUR. AND  AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE GET  FROM PEACE RIVER. SO THOSE  NUMBERS REFLECT THE PEAK  AMOUNTS ON THE SCHEDULE. SO IN  PURCHASE AGREEMENT. IF IT  REFERS TO AVERAGE DAILY  INFLOWS WHICH ARE IN  ATTACHMENT ONE. A FINAL  AGREEMENT WILL ALSO INCLUDE  NUMBERS FOR HE STAY FOR  MONTHS, BUT. YOU KNOW SECOND.  THE SO THE ANNUAL AVERAGE.  >> IS 4.8 FOR PEACE RIVER ON  ATTACHMENT ONE. BUT THE DAILY  CAN GO UP TO 2.1 IN THAT IN A  SITUATION WHERE WE NEEDED.  TAKE A HIGHER FLOW AND THERE  IS IT. WE CAN TAKE A HIGHER  FLOW RATE.  >> BUT IF YOU'RE. INCREASING  IT TO 2 MILLION GALLONS PER  DAY. ON YOUR PEAK DAYS, YOU'RE  GOING TO BE ASKING FOR 8.1 I  THAT.  >> IT'S NOT A COMMON  OCCURRENCE. RIGHT THAT'S THE  THE ONLY ASK IS FOR 2. THAT'S  COMING IN. PART OF THE.  FACTORING OF WATER SYSTEM  WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM IS YOU  PEAKING FACTORS WITH THAT SO.  I'M JUST SO PROUD OF IF THERE  WAS A BIG FIRE AND WE NEEDED  TAKE A LOT OF WATER AND WE  NEED PULL SOME THINGS ARE SO  THE COUNTY AND PEACE RIVER A  PEAKING FACTOR THAT WE HAVE IN  OUR SYSTEM AND WE CAN PUSH OUT  MORE THAN WE CAN ACTUALLY  MACON AND PART OF IT IS A  COMBINATION OF THE SYSTEMS  THAT WE TAP SO THERE'S A PEAK  FACTOR. OUR EMERGENCY EVENTS.  THE OF HURRICANE. IAN EXAMPLE.  HOLD OVER 6 MILLION GALLONS  THAT THEY. OF THE HURRICANE WE  HAD ISSUES IN THE SYSTEM. SO  IT WAS A PEAK IN FACT WE HAVE  ISOLATE THE SYSTEM WE HAVE TO  BRING IT OUT. WE DID STOP THE  WATER FROM FLOWING WE JUST HAD  TO NARROW IT DOWN ISOLATE  THOSE SYSTEMS. BUT THEY'RE NOT  GOING TO SHUT OFF ABOUT THING  MAINE. SORRY FOR SEND YOU OFF.  IT'S ALLOWING THE OPERATION  AND THE CORRECTION OF THE  SYSTEM AND THAT ASPECT I JUST  SAW THAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS  MORE THAN 2 MILLION GALLONS A  DAY AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO  MAKE SURE.  >> BECAUSE LAST YEAR'S THE  NUMBERS SO THANK YOU FOR THE  CLARITY I APPRECIATE AND CITY  ATTORNEY I DO APPRECIATE YOUR  ASSURANCES THAT THIS IS NOT  LEGALLY BINDING.  >> OKAY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  YOU OKAY WITH THAT ALL RIGHT  THAT'S I'M LOOKING FOR A  MOTION FOR THAT ITEM. I MEAN  TO MAKE IT SHORT.  >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE  AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER  TO EXECUTE A LETTER OF INTENT  TO PURCHASE AN ADDITIONAL  2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.  FROM THE PEACE RIVER MANASOTA  REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY  AUTHORITY.  >> WITH FUTURE CONTRACTS. AND  AGREEMENTS COMING FORWARD.  >> AND OK SO WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  AND SEGMENT BY VICE MAYOR  STOKES TO APPROVE AND  AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO  EXECUTE THE LETTER INTENT TO  PURCHASE AN ADDITIONAL  2 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER.  PER WATER SUPPLY FROM THE  PEACE RIVER MANASOTA REGIONAL  WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITY OR WITH  FUTURE CONTRACTS AND  AGREEMENTS COMING FORWARD I  GET CAPTURE THAT YOU DID GREAT  JOB. THANK YOU MAYOR, YOU KNOW  ALL RIGHT NOTHING ELSE STARTS  AND THAT PASSES 4 TO 0 ALL  RIGHT.  >> MOVING ON TO PUBLIC  HEARINGS PETITIONS ITEM A. PL  AT DASH 23 DASH 0, 8, 0,  CONSIDERATION  ♪ >> IT'S A RATION OF PETITION  PEEL UP 23 DASH 0, 8, 0  FELLOWSHIP RE PLATT THIS IS A  QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. AND  CITY CLERK I HAVE READ THE  TITLE BUT WE DO TO SWEAR IN  THOSE WHO WILL PROVIDE  TESTIMONY.  ♪ >> AND EVERYONE WATCHING TO  PROVIDE TESTIMONY PLEASE STAND  RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OR  AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY  YOU'RE ABOUT PROVIDE IS TRUE  AND ACCURATE TO THE BEST YOUR  KNOWLEDGE SO HELP YOU GOD.  >> YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CALL  FOR DISCLOSURE OF EX PARTE  COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL MAYOR, SORRY YOU GET  TO DISCLOSURES. WE DID HAVE A  PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RATHER  GENERAL IN NATURE, BUT IT  APPLIED TO BOTH OF OUR CAUSE  ADDITIONAL ITEMS TODAY. SO I  JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE BOARD  THAT PUBLIC COMMENT THAT  GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT  PART OF THE EVIDENCE BEFORE  YOU ON THIS ITEM BUT I WOULD  ENCOURAGE YOU TO MENTION THAT  YOUR EX PARTE DISCLOSURES AS  THAT WILL NOT BE PART OF THE  RECORD FOR THIS ITEM, OKAY.  >> I'M SORRY I DON'T REMEMBER  ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THESE  2 ITEMS URGING YOU TO LISTEN  TO THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE  NEARBY.  >> IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT THE  IT WAS THE ONE FROM JOSH SMITH  SEPARATE THE 2 PETITIONS AND  IN CASES EVEN TALKING ABOUT  THE WIND SPEED DIDN'T SPECIFY  WHAT HE JUST SAID THAT TO  PETITION TENSION THAT'S OKAY,  OKAY ALL RIGHT, WE WILL.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> I HAVE NO EX PARTE  COMMUNICATION EXCEPT FOR THE.  POSSIBILITY OF WHAT WAS  MENTIONED DURING PUBLIC  COMMENT.  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> I ALSO HAVE NO EX PARTE  EXCEPT FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.  >> I CHEW MAYOR LIGHT HAVE  NOTHING OF THEN WHAT I HEARD  DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. VICE  MAYOR. YOU KNOW. OKAY. I HAVE  REMEMBER THAT. OKAY DO WE HAVE  ANY AGGRIEVED PARTIES DO NOT.  SO FIRST WE'RE GOING TO MOVE  BY PRESENTATION BY THE  APPLICANT. YOU HAVE 20  MINUTES. GOOD MORNING.  >> MY NAME IS STEFAN US TO  MAKE A LOOP AND KENDRICK AND  I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE  PROPERTY OWNER SOUTH BISCAYNE  CHURCH INCORPORATED. THE  PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE  SOUTH SIDE OF TAMIAMI TRAIL  APPROXIMATELY 350 FEET WEST  OFF HOFFMAN AND THE PURPOSE  REQUEST IS TOO REPLY TO  PROPERTY TO CREATE SEPARATE  PARCEL, BUT THE PROPOSED  DEVELOPMENT HARVEY'S CAR WASH.  FLORIDA STATUTE, ONE 77 PART  ON TRUST'S A REQUIREMENTS FOR  PLOTTING REQUIREMENTS HAPPENED  THAT AND THAT'S CLIVE HAS BEEN  REVIEWED FOR CONFORMITY WITH  CHAPTER ONE 77 I IF OR  PROFESSIONAL WHICH HAS  APPROVED BY THE CITY. THE  PROPOSED PLAT CONTAINS THE  REQUIRED CATIONS PROPERTY  OWNERS AND THE PLATS PROVIDES  FOR THE APPROPRIATE UTILITY  EASEMENTS TO THE CITY OF PORT  FPL AND ALL OTHER PUBLIC  EXISTING CONDITIONS OFF TO.  PROPERTY FINAL PLOT OF STAFF  THAT THIS CAME COMMENTS WHICH  WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY  COMMISSION ON JULY 22ND, 2013.  ON 7/18/2023 SUBDIVISION  CONCEPT PLAN SCP 23 DASH 0, 2,  WAS APPROVED  CITY STAFF JANUARY 8 IT'S A  IT'S 2024. DEVELOPMENT MASTER  PLAN EMP 23 DASH 0, 8, WON WAS  APPROVED BY THE CITY  COMMISSION REPLIED IS IN  CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPROVED  INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS HIGH AND  HAVE 13 0, 8, 0, THE  PROPERTY'S EXISTING ZONING IS  COMMUNITY. AND THE PROPERTY'S  FUTURE FUTURE LAND USE  DESIGNATION IS ACTIVITY  CENTER. DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH  OF THE PROPERTY IS TAMMY AND  THE TRAIL AND CROSS STREET AS  A COMMERCIAL STRIP MALL TO THE  EAST THAT THE PROPERTY IS A  CIRCLE K GAS STATION. ALI AND  TO THE SOUTH AND TO WEST THE  PROPERTY THE CURRENT VACANT.  WE ARE REQUESTING FOR THIS  COMMISSION TO. APPROVED THE  PART OF THE REPLY OFF PORTION  FLOCK WON STOPS IN COMMENTS I  RECONFIGURE PORTION LOCK ON AS  PART STILL WON. ASKED THE  FELLOWSHIP YOU FELLAS ARE PRE  PLATTED WILL APPROXIMATELY 2.1  ACRES IN SIZE. PARCEL IS  STRICT TEEN KILLER IN SHAPE  MEASURING ABOUT 124 FEET ALONG  TAMIAMI TRAIL AND 270 FEET  NORTH TO SOUTH. ALL EASTMAN'S  PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED FOR  PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTES.  AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS  AVAILABILITY UTILITIES. THE  AND SKATING VARIANCE AND  COMPLIANCE AND CONSISTENCY  WITH AREA DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS  HAVE ALL PREVIOUSLY APPROVED  WITH THE DEVELOPMENT MASTER  PLAN AND PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT  REQUEST. THE COMMISSION  APPROVE THE REPORT. THANK YOU.  ALRIGHT PRESENTATION BY STAFF.  >> GOOD MORNING, DAVID BROWN  PLAYER, ONE SERVICES HAVE BEEN  SWORN.  >> THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT  FELLOWSHIP REPLY WHICH IS  BEING DONE TO PROTECT PIANO 2,  3, DASH 0, 8, 0, THE APPLICANT  SARAH LUND ABLE DOOR. SURE  MIKE OR LOOP AND KENDRICK LLP  THE PROPERTY OWNERS  SOUTH BISCAYNE BAPTIST CHURCH.  CORPORATE IT REQUEST A  CONSIDERATION OF FELLOWSHIP A  REPLY. PROPERTIES LOOKING IN  THE SOUTH TEAMING WITH TRAIL  APPROXIMATELY 350 FEET WEST OF  POP THAT WHOLE AREA OF IMPACT  BUT FOR -2.1 0 ACRES. THE  PURPOSE WAS REQUIRES TO CREATE  A SEPARATE PARCEL IN ORDER TO  ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF  A TOMMY'S CAR WASH. THE  PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY  BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO  APPROVE THIS REQUEST.  INCLUDING MOST OF THE PROPOSED  FINAL PLAN. THE FINAL WAS  REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE  CITY SURVEYOR CONFORMANCE WITH  FLORIDA STATUTES CHAPTER ONE  77 PART ONE. AND THE FINAL  PLATT WAS REVIEW FOR  CONFORMANCE WITH THE PROBE  SUBDIVISION PLAN SEP 2, 3,  DASH 0, 2, INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN  HAVE DASH 1, 3, DASH 0, 8, 0,  PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION  RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, A  PETITION NUMBER P O ED, 2, 3,  0, 8, 0 FELLOWSHIP REPLY.  THANK YOU.  >> WE'RE GOING TO TO MOVE TO  REBUTTAL. YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL.  >> I THINK FROM THANK ALL  RIGHT. STEPH YOU HAVE A  REBUTTAL. WE DO NOT OKAY. SO  WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PUBLIC  COMMENT.  >> PUBLIC THEN WE'RE GOING TO  COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.  >> I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING.  CLOSING ARGUMENTS WE HAVE NO  AGGRIEVED PARTY STAFF TO HAVE  ANY CLOSING ARGUMENTS.  APPLICANT DO HAVE A CLOSING  ARGUMENT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT  SO IMPOSING THIS PORTION OF  THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M  LOOKING FOR A MAKE A MOTION  MAYOR GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO  APPROVE THE FELLOWSHIP RE  PLATT PETITION NUMBER P L F  DASH 23 DASH 0, 8, 0,  >> AND FIND THAT BASED ON  COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL  EVIDENCE THE PLANT IS  CONSISTENT.  >> FLORIDA STATUTES SECTION  ONE 77. 0, 8, 1, THE UNIFIED  LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND  THE NORTH PORT COMPREHENSIVE  PLAN.  >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  TO APPROVE THE FELLOWSHIP  REPLY PETITION NUMBER P L F  DASH 23 DASH 0, 8, 0,  >> AND FIND THAT BASED ON THE  COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL  EVIDENCE THAT THAT IS  CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA  STATUTES SECTION 1, 7, 7, 0,  8, 1, THE UNIFIED LAND  DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE PORT  COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT  WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.  >> DOW. IF THERE'S NOTHING  OUT. LET'S  IT IS YES IS RIGHT  NEXT TO YOUR NAME.  >> I ALWAYS OK I ALREADY  VOTED, BUT I DIDN'T IT'S THAT  PASSES 4 TO 0 ALL RIGHT. OKAY.  THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE  NEXT PETITION WHICH IS THE  LEFT 23 DASH 2, 1, 4, THIS IS  ITEM D. THIS IS A QUASI  JUDICIAL HEARING AND I'M  CALLING ON THE CITY CLERK TO  READ THE PETITION TITLE AND  SWEAR IN THOSE WISHING TO  PROVIDE TESTIMONY.  >> DASH 23 DASH 2 ONE OR  CONSIDERATION OF PETITION P L  F DASH 23 DASH 2, 1, 4 CREATE  PLACE FACE TO REPLY AND  EVERYONE MISSION TO PROVIDE  STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT  HAND. SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE  TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO  PROVIDE IS TRUE AND ACCURATE  TO THE BEST YOUR KNOWLEDGE TO  HELP YOU THAT.  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, I'M  LOOKING FOR DISCLOSURE OF  EXPERT, A COMMUNICATIONS  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL I HAVE  NO EX PARTE EXCEPT FOR THE  PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER TODAY.  >> COMMISSIONER LANGDON I HAVE  NO EXPECT PARTE HEY I'M WITH  THE EXCEPTION OF THE PUBLIC  COMMENT EARLIER TODAY ALL  RIGHT I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER  THAN THAT PUBLIC COMMENT THAT  WAS MADE VICE MAYOR SAME NO  EXPERT PICKS WHERE THE PUBLIC  COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE  ANY AGGRIEVED PARTY CITY  CLERK.  ♪ ♪ THERE MOVING TO PRESENTATION  BY THE APPLICANT.  >> GOOD MORNING. AARON TO WOW  WITH MORRIS ENGINEERING HERE  ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.  FOR THE HEARING TAKE PLACE  FACE TO REPLY, BRIEF STAFF HAS  A VERY DETAILED REPORT  PREPARED. BASICALLY THIS IS  JUST SEE A CONSIDERATION OF  THE WREATH AT FOR PHASE 2  WHICH IS FOR 10 COMMERCIAL  LOTS AND THEIR ROADWAYS STORM  WATER IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS  LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF  CHRIST. EAST OF SUMTER  BOULEVARD. THE DEVELOPMENT  JUST NORTH OF HERE IS ALSO  PART OF HERE IN CREEK. SO THIS  IS A CONTINUATION OF OF THAT  AGAIN JUST FURTHER REPLY OF  THE AREA. IT DOES HAVE RELATED  INFRASTRUCTURE PURPLE.  >> OKAY THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT  THAT WAS THAT YES THE THAT  PRESENTATION.  ♪ ♪ >> WITH NOTICE THAT THIS IS  GOING TO BE A GOOD  PRESENTATION UNDER A LITTLE  PRESSURE THERE. NO PRESSURE.  >> GOOD MORNING. DAVID BROWN  MINOR ONE. DO THE SERVICES AND  HAVE BEEN SWORN. THEY WERE  HERE TO TALK ABOUT HERE A  GREAT PLACE. HE'S TO REPLY.  >> THIS IS BEING DONE TO  PETITION NUMBER PL AT 2, 2, 1,  THE APPLICANT IS MATTHEW 3  MORE PE MORRIS ENGINEERING  CONSULTING LLC THE PROPERTY  OWNERS MARK HOLDINGS LTD. AND  THE REQUEST IS THE FINAL PLAN  APPROVAL REPLACE PHASE 2.  PARCEL LOCATED TO THE EAST  SIDE OF SOUTH BOULEVARD  APPROXIMATELY 2.2 5 MILES.  SOUTH OF WEST PRICE BOULEVARD.  AS A PARCEL ID OF 0, 9, 7, 8,  YOUR ONE DASH 0, 0, 0, 6, THE  TOTAL AREA IMPACT IS  APPROXIMATELY 64.4 4 ACRES.  THE PLANNING AND ZONING  ADVISORY BOARD VOTED  UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THIS  REPLY. I'VE INCLUDED A LITTLE  CLIP OF THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR  YOUR REVIEW. A FINAL PLAT WAS  INTERVIEWED IN THE APPROVED BY  THE CONTRACTED CITY SURVEYOR  CONFORMANCE WITH THE FLORIDA  STATUTES CHAPTER ONE 77 PARK,  ONE. THE FINAL PART WAS THE  VIEW CONFORMANCE WITH THE  PROOF SUBDIVISION PLAN ACP 2,  2, DASH 0, 7, 8, PLAN, I IN 2,  2, DASH 0, 7, 7, THE PLANNING  AND ZONING DIVISION RECOMMENDS  APPROVAL NUMBER P 2, 3, DASH  2, 1, 4, PLACE. TO REPLY.  THANK YOU.  >> ALL RIGHT MOVING TO  REBUTTAL. APPLICANT TO HAVE A  REBUTTAL. AND YOU COME UP TO  THE MIKE AND. THANK OKAY, A  STEP TO HAVE A REBUTTAL.  LOOKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH, I JUST HAD WITH  COUPLE SHE 5 AND SHE FOR THOSE  LOOK LIKE THERE FOR THE  APARTMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY  UNDER CONSTRUCTED. ARE YOU  REFERRING TO THE ACTUAL PLANT  ITSELF. I AM IF YOU WANT TO  BRING UP THE SEE WHAT IT SAYS  SHE'D AND SHE 5. THAT'S PART  OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. BUT  THERE'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTION  ON THAT.  >> YES, SO THERE REDEFINING  THE ENTIRE AREA. TO INCLUDE  THE COMMERCIAL PRODUCT  PARCELS.  >> I I JUST I'M CURIOUS. HOW  CAN DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN IF THE  REPLY WASN'T. BECAUSE IT'S  ALREADY BEEN PLANTED.  >> SO YOU CAN CONSTRUCT WANTS  THE PLATS APPROVED. WE'RE  PROVING IT TODAY AND THERE'S  CONSTRUCTION ALREADY ON DOING  TODAY'S APPROVING BASICALLY  RECONFIGURATION TO LEAVE THAT  AREA AND ALSO CREATE THE 10  COMMERCIAL LOTS. SO ONCE THE  PLATS APPROVED IT CAN BE  CONSTRUCTED A POT AND THEY CAN  REPLY THE WHEN DID WE APPROVED  4, 5, SHE. PART OF THIS IT WAS  PART OF THE ORIGINAL FEES TO I  BELIEVE. THAT'S WORD. YES BUT  WE'RE DOING TO REPLANT SO  WE'RE OKAY, YES, OKAY FOR  CHANGING APPROACH THIS WAY.  >> IT WAS THROWING ME OFF I  THE QUESTION AND ANSWER AND  YEARS.  >> CONFIRMATION ON IT JUST IT  SEEMS A LITTLE BACKWARDS GOT  IS BACKWARDS THAT IT'S OK TO  INSPECT THINK YOU.  >> AND THAT IT THAT'S IT OK.  >> CLOSING ARGUMENTS WE DON'T  HAVE AN AGGRIEVED PARTIES SO  APPLICANT DO YOU HAVE ANY  CLOSING ARGUMENTS, NOTHING  OKAY STAFF TO HAVE A CLOSING  ARGUMENT I DO NOT. POSING THIS  PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING  AND I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION  MAKE IT GO AHEAD MOVE TO  APPROVE THE HERON CREEK PLACE.  AIDES TO PETITION NUMBER P L F  23 DASH 2.14 AND FIND THAT  BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL  EVIDENCE.  >> PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH  FLORIDA STATUTES SECTION ONE  77.  >> 81 UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT  CODE, THE NORTH PORT  COMPREHENSIVE AND BACK IN.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY VICE MAYOR STOKES TO  APPROVE THE HEARING WILL  PLACED FACE. AIDES TO REBUT  PETITION NUMBER OF F DASH 23  DASH 2, 1, 4, AND FIND THAT  BASED ON THE COMPETENT AND  SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THAT  IS CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA  STATUTES SECTION 1, 7, 7, 0,  8, 1, THE UNIFIED LAND  DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE NORTH  PORT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND  THAT WAS SECONDED IF THERE'S  NOTHING ELSE LET.  >> AND  >> THAT PASSES 4 TO 0 THANK  YOU EVERYONE INVOLVED AT.  THAT'S A LOT THE GOALIES IN  THERE MOVING ON TO. ORDINANCE  FIRST READING.  >> ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH  0, 9,  >> CITY YOU READ THIS BY TITLE  ONLY MADE A MOTION A MOTION  THAT'S RIGHT AND INTO MOTION.  >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  TO READ THIS BY THE CITY CLERK  TO READ BY TITLE ONLY MADE BY  COMMISSIONER AND SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, LET'S  VOTE ON THAT. AND THAT PASSES  4 TO 0 ALRIGHT CITY CLERK.  >> NUMBER 2024 DASH 0, 9, AN  ORDINANCE OF THE CITY IN NORTH  PORT FLORIDA, AMENDING THE  CITY OF NORTH PORT  COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VOLUME ONE  REPEALING CHAPTER ONE  PLANNING. I'M MARK AMENDING  CHAPTER TO FUTURE LAND USE  ELEMENT REPEALING AND  REPLACING THE FUTURE LAND USE  MAP AMENDING CHAPTER 3  TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT  AMENDING CHAPTER FOR UTILITIES  ELEMENT AMENDING CHAPTER 5  CONSERVATION ELEMENT. CHAPTER  6 RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE  ELEMENT. MANY CHAPTER, 7  INTERGOVERNMENTAL ORDINATION  ELEMENT AMENDING CHAPTER 9  PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES  ELEMENT. MANY CHAPTER 10  CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT  AMENDING CHAPTER 11 ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT ALL MEANT  PROVIDING FINDINGS PROVIDING  FOR ADOPTION PROVIDING FOR  TRANSMITTAL OF DOCUMENTS  PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX  PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND  PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.  >> THANK YOU ALL RIGHT CITY  MANAGER THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR WE  ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE READING  OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024 DASH  9, THE MAY 2823 FOR CITY  COMMISSION WILL  >> MOVING TO COMMISSIONER  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> I'M CONCERNED WITH HAVING  IT ON THE 28TH, IT'S EVENING  MEETING. DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL  IS INVOLVED WITH THIS COMP  PLAN. ENDED. I CAN ONLY GO BY  MY VERY FIRST COMMISSION  MEETING WHEN WE WENT THROUGH  THE YEARS WHEN WE AMENDED THAT  COMP PLAN BACK IN 2016. THAT  MEETING WAS OURS. MANY IN  EXCESS OF 6 HOURS JUST ON THIS  DISCUSSION. I DON'T. FACT THAT  SO NOT KNOWING WHAT'S ALL  INVOLVED. I'M CURIOUS IF THERE  IS AN APPETITE TO AMEND FIRST  READING I KNOW WE WOULD  PROBABLY HAVE TO RE NOTICE.  IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. TO FIRST  MEETING JUNE AND KIND OF GET  SOME FEEDBACK FROM STAFF IS  THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING  PRESENTED I'M I'M SEEING THE  TITLE BLOCK AND IT'S  PRACTICALLY EVERY SINGLE  CHAPTER. I'M JUST WONDERING IF  DURING THE DAY WOULD BE MORE  CONDUCIVE THE CONVERSATION.  >> MORNING GLORY BARNES  ASSISTANT TRACTOR DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN  AMENDMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH  WITH THIS ITEM. PROVIDE FOR  CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE  COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE NEW  UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.  THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES  INVOLVE THE FUTURE LAND MEANT  THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SOME  ADDITIONAL FUTURE LAND  DISTRICTS. 2 PAIR WITH ON NEW  ZONING DISTRICTS. WE HAVE.  CLARIFY SOME LANGUAGE NATURAL  RESOURCES AND THIS CLEANED UP  SOME CONFLICTS THAT WE HAVE  BETWEEN THE COMP PLAN AND THE  UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE  EITHER CURRENTLY HAS WRITTEN.  OR PROVIDED FOR IN THE DRAFT.  I STOPPED DOES NOT RECOMMEND  CONTINUING THE ITEM AS TO THE  IMPACT ON THE TIMELINE FOR  ALTON THAT ADOPTION BY LAND  DEVELOPMENT CODE.  >> THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN  NEEDS TO BE TRANSMITTED TO THE  STATE. THERE IS A 30 DAY  REVIEW INVOLVED. IF THERE ARE  NO COMMENTS WE COULD BRING  ABOUT IMMEDIATELY PER SECOND  READING. IF THERE ARE COMMENTS  WE WILL NEED TO MODIFYING THE  SCHEDULE WILL VERY LIKELY  RESULT IN OUR STATE REVIEW  COMING BACK. WELL THEY WILL  RESOLVE NEXT A PREVIEW COMING  BACK IN JULY AND WHICH CASE WE  WOULD EITHER NEED A SPECIAL  MEETING AND AUGUST WHERE THIS  ITEM WOULD BE PUSHED TO  SEPTEMBER. THEREBY RESULTING  IN A FINAL ADOPTION POSSIBLY.  AND LATE SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER.  >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> YES JUST FOR CLARITY I  WOULDN'T RUN AWAY KNOWS  BARNES.  >> HAHA.  >> YOU KNOW JUST COUPLE OF  THINGS I REALLY READ THIS IS  BEING MORE OF A STRUCTURAL  MODIFICATION SO THAT BOTH  DOCUMENTS ARE IN THE SAME.  >> ON NASH ARE STRUCTURES THAT  CORRECT.  >> YES, YES, WE HAVE NEW  ZONING DISTRICTS LIKE I  MENTIONED SO WE NEED FUTURE  LAND USE DISTRICTS SHARE WITH  SO PLANTS UP THE STRUCTURE OF  THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.  LINES ALL OF THE CONVENTIONAL  STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE NEW  UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE  AS FAR AS DENSITY INTENSITY.  AT SOME MOMENT PERVIOUS  SURFACE AREA, CETERA AND THE  FUTURE LAND USE ON THAT TO  ALIGN WITH AND TOPS THE NEW  FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO BE  CONSISTENT WITH THE DRAFT  ZONING MAP. SO SOME STRUCTURAL  CHANGES. SOME CLEANUP.  >> SUBSTANTIVE AT.  >> IT IS IT YOUR INTENTION. MY  LET ME BACK UP CURRENTLY WE  HAVE AN ONLINE VERSION OF THE  COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AVAILABLE  ON OUR WEBSITE IS IT YOUR  INTENTION TO SHOW A.  >> MODIFIED. DOCUMENT BEFORE  SECOND READING.  >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO I  WOULDN'T TOUCH. I WOULD  IMAGINE THE BEST PLACE WHOA  STOP ON THE WEBSITE WEBSITE ON  THE UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT  CODE UP 8 HARRIS WITH THAT.  BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT  THE BEST PLACEMENT FOR AND WE  COULD. BUT THIS OUT THERE ON  THE WEB SITE IN ADDITION TO  WHAT WILL BE SHOWN ON  COMMISSION AGENDA OR WHAT  EVERY MEETING YOU ALL CHOOSE.  >> YEAH THAT THAT WOULD BE  TERRIFIC I I DEFINITELY DO NOT  WANT TO PROJECT ANYMORE WITH  AND MIRED ALL OF THIS FOR A  DECADE OR SO AND I THINK IT'S  TIME TO LAND THE PLANE THAT I  WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO  REVIEW A BONAFIDE DOCUMENT  BEFORE SECOND READINGS SO I  APPRECIATE YOUR OFFER TO DO  THAT. DO YOU NEED ANY FORM  DIRECTION FROM THIS COMMISSION  TO DO THAT.  >> YEAH, NO WORD IS LOOKING  FOR THE CONTINUANCE FOR TODAY  SO WE CAN ACTUALLY CAP FIRST  READING PRESENT THE AMENDMENT  TO YOU ALL AND TRANSMIT TO THE  STATE.  >> GREAT THANK YOU I'M I'M ALL  SET ME ALL RIGHT VICE MAYOR.  YEAH, I ALSO DEFINITELY NOT  FAVOR OF FACT I THINK IN THE  EVENING MEETINGS BETTER FOR  ANY CITIZENS WHO WORK DURING  TODAY GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY BE  HERE.  >> IT'S SO WE SERVE AT THEIR  PLEASURE AND IF WE HAVE TO BE  ROLLED 3 IN THE MORNING SO BE  I DON'T REALLY  >> I ALSO SEE THIS AMENDMENTS  AS OPPORTUNITY HERE REALLY TO  JUST TIED TOGETHER AND THE  COMP PLAN WITH ULDC SO I DON'T  SEE THIS AS.  >> AS ASTRONOMICAL OR OR OR  OVERWHELMING. CHANGE TO THE  COMP PLAN I THINK THIS IS JUST  A LOT OF HOUSEKEEPING IN  CLEANING UP MAKING SURE  THERE'S CONSISTENCY SO.  >> YOU KNOW, I'M DEFINITELY IN  FAVOR MOVING FORWARD ON THIS  AND GETTING THIS ULDC DONE  ONCE AND FOR ALL.  >> I ALL RIGHT.  >> YEAH I I AGREE WE'VE TALKED  A LOT ABOUT ON OUR ULDC  CHANGES. HOW IT'S NOT WE'RE  NOT ALIGNING WITH THE COMP  PLAN IN THE UP AND HAD  CONFLICTS WITH ALL THEY SAY  AND THAT'S HOW I INTERPRET  THIS AS. WHAT WAS MENTIONED  THAT THIS IS KIND OF LIKE  PAPERWORK TYPE THING WITH AND  BUT THINGS BACK COMMISSIONER  LANGDON TERM OF IT WE HAVE  ADMIRED IT FOR A VERY LONG  TIME. YES, AND THAT'S IT'S NOW  LET'S BUY I GUESS SO. I HAVE  NO PROBLEM WITH. CONTINUING  THIS TO NIGHT MEETING AS A  VICE MAYOR SAID IT WOULD GIVE  PEOPLE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY  TO COME OUT TO DO DURING THE  DAY. COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  >> GOING THROUGH THE YEARS  PROCESS THAT MEETING STARTED  AT 10:00AM AND WE DIDN'T END  UNTIL 01:00AM AND I JUST  WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE  WERE GIVING IT AND DEVOTING  THE TIME NECESSARY FOR  SOMETHING THIS IMPORTANT. THIS  IS OUR COMP PLAN. AND YES, I  UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S GOING TO  BE WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH  THE ULDC BUT THIS COMP PLAN IS  ONE OF THE IF NOT THE MOST  IMPORTANT DOCUMENT WE ARE  GOING TO BE VETTING SO I I  JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT  WAS NOT GOING TO BE PASSED  OVER QUICKLY THAT WE WOULD DO  THE PROPER VETTING THAT WAS  NECESSARY. I LIKE THE IDEA  THAT COMMISSIONER LANGDON HAD  TO PUT THE COMP PLAN DRAFT ON  THE WEBSITE, HOWEVER I DON'T  KNOW WHY WE WOULD WAIT FOR  PUTTING IT ON THERE FOR SECOND  READING. IF WE CAN GET IT ON  THERE NOW FIRST READING IS  GOING TO BE COMING UP IF IF  IT'S AGREED ON MAY 28TH. I  KNOW IT WILL BE IN THE BACKUP  MATERIAL. THIS WAY WE CAN GET  IT ON THERE MAY BE A COPY TO  THE COMMISSION SO WE CAN START  REVIEWING GOING THROUGH WHAT  THE CHANGES ARE THAT STAFF IS  RECOMMENDING. THAT WAY THEN WE  HAVE. ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW IT  OURSELVES PRIOR TO THE MEETING  IN PRIOR TO THE AGENDA  POSTING. AND HAVING IT ON THE  WEB SITE ALSO GIVES THE  CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO  REALLY LOOK AT IT OVER.  >> ALL RIGHT WELL WE'LL  CERTAINLY WORK ON GETTING IT  OUT ON THE WEB PAGE. IT READY  PUBLISHED AS PART OF THE  PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY  BOARD MEETING THURSDAY.  >> MAY 16TH.  >> SO IT IS AVAILABLE ON  GRANICUS ON THE CITY CLERK'S  PAGE. SO ALL OF THE ORDINANCE  THE SUPPLEMENTAL  DOCUMENTATION, THE FUTURE LAND  USE ELEMENT ARE ALL THERE ON  THE BUTTONED UP FOR THURSDAY.  >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH  APPRECIATE THAT ON THE ONLY  OTHER SUGGESTION AND I KNOW  THIS MAY NOT BE THE  APPROPRIATE TIME, BUT I JUST  WANT TO PLANT THE SEED AND  KIND OF GET PERCOLATING IN  EVERYBODY'S MIND. MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS CITY ATTORNEY  AND CITY MANAGERS IS TO  POSSIBLY HAVE THE COMP PUT ON.  MUNI CODE SO THAT WAY THEN  IT'S A CODIFIED DOCUMENT SO  THAT WAY THEN ANY CHANGES ARE  EASILY TRACKABLE THIS WAY  EVERYBODY'S WORKING OFF THE  SAME COMP BECAUSE BEEN BROUGHT  TO MY ATTENTION THE COMP PLAN  THAT I HAVE IN MY OFFICE IN  THE BOOK WRITTEN FORMAT IS  POTENTIALLY NOT EVEN THE SAME  ONE THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE. WE  REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS  IS A CODIFIED DOCUMENT AND I  UNDERSTAND THERE'S A COST  ASSOCIATED WITH IT.  >> BUT THAT COST IS VERY WELL  SPENT TO ENSURE THAT  EVERYBODY'S WORKING FROM THE  SAME. SOME SHEET SO PUT THAT  IN YOUR PIPE WE'LL HAVE THAT  DISCUSSION AT A LATER TIME  AGAIN JUST PLANTING THE SEED  ON THAT ITEM. THAT'S I ALL  QUESTIONS I HAVE  >> ALL RIGHT.  >> CITY CLERK ANY PUBLIC  COMMENT.  >> YES KRISTINA SMITH. I HOPE  THAT CAREFUL CONSIDERATION IS  TAKEN WITH REGARDS TO  CONSERVATION EFFORTS,  ESPECIALLY WITH PROTECTING THE  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS CHAPTER  2.7 HAS BUILT INFRASTRUCTURE  IS PRIORITIZED AROUND ACTIVITY  CENTERS THAT ARE ALREADY  OVERWHELMED BY TRAFFIC  PATTERNS ACTIVITIES LEAST 3,  4, AND ANTICIPATING WHICH  ACTIVITY CENTERS ARE MOST  LIKELY TO NEED MORE  INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING PLACED  AHEAD OF TIME TO PREVENT A  REPEAT OF HISTORY LIKE IS  CURRENTLY THE FACT IT'S 73 IN  PORT. I FULLY INTEND TO REMAIN  A RESIDENT FOR THE NEXT 40  PLUS YEARS AND I DO NOT WANT  TO SEE IT CONTINUE TO TURN  INTO A RIVER VIEW THAT IS  KNOWN FOR THEIR POOR  INFRASTRUCTURE AND THANK YOU.  JOSH I'M WRITING THIS COMMENT  HOPING THAT WE CONTINUE TO  INFORM CITIZENS ABOUT UPCOMING  CHANGES EVERY AFFECTED  PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD BE  PERSONAL WARNED BY THE CITY.  THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO  COMPLETING THIS PROCESS RIGHT  BY. AND IN PERSON, CHUCK  ENGLISH.  GOOD MORNING. HOPE YOU ALL  HAVE IN WEST I CAN'T ANSWER. I  JUST OKAY.  >> THERE'S A LOT THERE. OKAY  YOUR VIEW. MY CONCERN. ONE OF  THEM IS THAT. BOARDS  COMMITTEES THAT WILL BE  IMPACTED BY THESE CHANGES AND  THEY HAVE HAD YOU BELIEVE  REVIEW ANY OF INFORMATION.  LIKE OPEN SPACE PARKS A LAND  USE THAT WOULD BE  ENVIRONMENTAL PARK RECREATION.  CHAPTER 5. CONSERVATION AND  ENVIRONMENTAL. THAT WOULD BE.  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD.  THAT SEEMS TO BE A. A PROCESS  OF INFORMATION AND  RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE  COMMITTEE BUT PEOPLE WHO WERE  DEDICATED TO WHAT THEY DO. AND  TO IGNORE ON OR BY IMPORTANT  ISSUE AS THE COMPREHENSIVE  PLAN. I MEAN WITH THE CHARTER  CONCEPT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND  THEN THE ULDC. HAS A PLAN.  THE ULDC SAYS HOW WE GET  THERE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.  RESPECTFULLY ASK THE  COMMISSION TO CONSIDER. HAVING  THESE DOCUMENTS SENT TO THE  BOARDS THAT HAD UNDER THE  DUTIES RESPONSIBILITIES TO  ADDRESS THESE. THANK YOU.  THAT'S ALL OK.  >> ALL RIGHT CLOSING THIS A  PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M LOOKING  FOR A MOTION.  >> AND I'M SORRY. LIGHT OF THE  PUBLIC COMMENT I AM AS OUR  ADVISORY BOARDS WEIGHED IN ON  THIS THESE COMP PLAN POTENTIAL  CHANGES. AND TO TAKE IT ONE  STEP FURTHER HAS EVERY SINGLE  DEPARTMENT THAT THIS COMP PLAN  TOUCHES HAVE THEY HAD A CHANCE  TO REVIEW THIS HAVE THEY HAD A  CHANCE  SEND IN THEIR RECOMMENDED  CHANGES. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY  AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE YEARS  PROCESS THAT I PARTICIPATED IN  AS A CITIZEN AND I BELIEVE  MAYOR WHITE ALSO PARTICIPATED  IN SOME OF THOSE YEAR  CONVERSATIONS, THERE THREATS  THAT WERE HELPED. WHERE THE  CITIZENS ARE ABLE TO  PARTICIPATE AND I'M CURIOUS IF  ALL OF THAT VETTING HAS BEEN  BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD  ANYTHING ABOUT CITIZEN  PARTICIPATION. BUT ESPECIALLY  ABOUT DEPARTMENTAL AND ALSO  THE ADVISORY BOARDS.  >> REGARD TO THE PUBLIC INPUT  THAT WAS PROVIDED. DEVELOPMENT  SERVICES STAFF HAS ATTEMPTED  TWICE TO PRESENT THE NATURAL  RESOURCES CHAPTER TO THE  ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD  WHICH WE WERE UNABLE TO DO DUE  TO A LACK OF A QUORUM ONE PER  SPECIAL MEANING ONE HER  REGULAR MEETING WE HAVE  REACHED OUT TO THE BOARD TO  REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL SPECIAL  MEETING. ATTEMPT TO ENSURE  THAT THIS COMMISSION HERE'S  THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE  THE FINAL THE COMBINED UNIFIED  LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AS TO  THE AIR PROCESS THAT YOUR  PROCESSES IS A DIFFERENT  ANIMAL THAN WHAT WE'RE DEALING  WITH HERE. CITY OF NORTH PORT  ONE LINE AND I CAN GO ON ON  BOARD. THE CITY OF NORTH PORT  WAS CAST ON COMPLETING THE  MODIFICATIONS TO THE UNIFIED  LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DESPITE  THE  NORMAL COURSE.  >> BEING.  >> ENDURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN  AND THEN ADOPT YOUR UNIFIED  LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO BE  CONSISTENT WITH THE TOP WE  HAVE ADDRESSED THE UNIFIED  LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS WAS A  PRIORITY UP THIS COMMISSION  AND AS A RESULT, SOME  AMENDMENTS TO THE  COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WERE NOT  SORRY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR  THAT CONSISTENCY. THAT'S  REQUIRED UNDER THE FLORIDA  STATUTES. OUR CITY STAFF HAS  REVIEWED THE UNIFIED LAND  DEVELOPMENT AND THE  COPPERHEADS OF PLAN AMENDMENTS  GENERALLY A LAWN WITH WHAT'S  BEING CHANGED AND THE DRAFT  UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.  WE HAVE PRESENTED MULTIPLE  CHAPTERS TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT  WHEN REQUESTED. AND WHEN THE  SUBJECT MATTER DIRECTLY  RELATED TO THOSE SPORTS HANDS,  COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  ADVISORY BOARD HAS REVIEWED  SEVERAL CHAPTERS. THE AB HAS  REVIEWED SOME OF THE CHAPTERS.  SO WE DO HAVE SOME SOME  ADDITIONAL TIME BETWEEN FIRST  AND SECOND READING THIS BOARD  DIRECTS US TO SUBMIT THIS TO  EVERY ORBAN COMMITTEE WITHIN  THE CITY WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY  TO DO THAT. WE. WE ARE WILLING  TO DO WHATEVER THE COMMISSION  REQUESTS US TO DO AS FAR AS  GETTING FEEDBACK. WE HAVE  PLENTY OF PUBLIC COMMENT  REGARDING THE UNIFIED LAND  DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE HAVE  PLENTY OF INFORMATION OUT ON  OUR WEBSITE REGARDING THIS  UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE  CHANGES. WE HAVE PODCAST WE  HAVE FREQUENTLY ASKED  QUESTIONS WE'VE ATTENDED THE  PORT UNITED MEETINGS TOO  ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE  PUBLIC. WITH THAT WE'RE  LOOKING FOR MISSION FOR ACTION  ON ANY ADDITIONAL ACTION YOU  LIKE  >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL, YET AS A FOLLOW-UP.  I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING  ALL OF THAT, BUT IT SOUNDED  LIKE IT WAS MORE GEARED  TOWARDS THE ULDC ALL THAT  PUBLIC OUTREACH AND CITIZEN  NOT REGION. ADVISORY BOARD  OUTREACH ALL RELATED TO THE  ULDC NOT KNOWING WHAT IS IN  THOSE COMP PLAN CHANGES AND  WHAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED BY  YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR THAT COM  PLAN WHICH IS A TOTALLY  DIFFERENT DIFFERENT PURPOSE OF  THE DOCUMENT. I'M LOOKING FOR  ASSURANCES THAT THE CITIZENS  AN ADVISORY BOARD AND THE  DEPARTMENT HAVE REVIEWED COMP  PLAN CHANGES I UNDERSTAND  YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE VERY  RELATED TO THE ULDC BUT IT'S A  TOTALLY DIFFERENT DOCUMENT A  TOTALLY DIFFERENT KIND OF  FORMAT AND I I'M MORE GEARED  TOWARDS MY QUESTIONS AS IT  RELATES TO COMP PLAN REVISIONS  THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.  >> AGAIN THE COMPREHENSIVE  PLAN IS A BROAD BASE POLICY  DOCUMENT THAT DRIVES THE  UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE  AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT  REGULATIONS WHERE AN ALL OF  THE YEAR. SPECIFIC  REQUIREMENTS MEASURABLE  STANDARDS ARE INCORPORATED.  STAFF DID LOOK AT THIS  COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.  >> AS A CLEANUP EFFORT TO  ALIGN THIS WITH THE UNIFIED  LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AGAIN  WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE TO ALL  OF THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES  GET IT OUT THERE ON THE WEB  SITE THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL  PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR PUBLIC  INPUT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE  PLAN. THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN  AMENDMENT IS. BASICALLY LET'S  CLEAN THIS UP AND PROVIDE FOR  CONSISTENCY WITH THE DOCUMENTS  THAT THE COMMISSION HAS  REVIEWED AS PART OF THE ULDC  REWRITE AND PROVIDE FOR THAT  REQUIRED CONSISTENCY. WE CAN  CONTINUE BETWEEN FIRST AND  SECOND READING TO GET  ADDITIONAL WORD OUT TO GET  ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK TO BRING  ALL OF BACK TO THE COMMISSION  THAT THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION.  >> THEY HAVE A FOLLOW-UP.  >> SO IF IF WE.  >> TRYING TO SINK THE CORRECT  TERMS. SO IF WE HAVE FIRST  READING AND WORD WE GET  IMPORTANT STUFF FROM THE  ADVISORY BOARDS DEPARTMENT  CITIZENS, EVERYBODY BETWEEN  FIRST AND SECOND READING WHILE  THE STATE IS REVIEWING  EVERYTHING AND WE MAKE  SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES BASED ON  THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE  ADVISORY BOARDS, THE CITIZENS  BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND  READING AFTER THE STATE HAS  REVIEW. DO WE THEN HAVE TO GO  BACK TO ANOTHER STATE REVIEW  BASED ON THOSE POTENTIALLY  SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.  >> LARGE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE  PLAN AMENDMENTS ARE  TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE AFTER  CREATING THEIR TRANSMITTED TO  THE STATE AFTER SECOND READING  AND ANY CHANGES THAT HAVE AND  MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND  READING ARE CLEARLY I KIND OF  ODD AND THE TRANSMITTAL AND  ANY WON ANY AGENCY THAT HAD  COMMENTS AND NOTIFIED OF ****  OUT THE ADOPTION AND ANY  CHANGES THAT HAVE MADE AND THE  STATE ALSO HAS OPPORTUNITY FOR  COMMENTARY ON ANY CHANGES NAME  BETWEEN TRANSMIT ALL AND  ADOPTION.  >> WHAT ABOUT. OKAY SO YOU  SAID IT GOES BACK TO THE STATE  AFTER SECOND READING AFTER  FORMAL ADOPTION. IF THEY HAVE  ANY CHANGES THAT WOULD THEN  COME BACK TO US FOR  RECONSIDERATION. I JUST WANT  TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY  UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS THANK  IF THEY HAVE COMMENTS ARE  CONCERNS THAT WILL BE BROUGHT  BACK AND THAT WILL BE BROUGHT  TO STAFF. AND QUESTION  COMMENT. OR NOT.  >> AND STUFF CAN ADDRESS THOSE  COMMENTS AND PROVIDE THE  INFORMATION THEY'RE LOOKING  FOR THEN IT WOULD NOT COME  BACK TO THE COMMISSION IF  THERE'S ANY SUBSTANTIVE  CHANGES THAT THE STATE IS  REQUESTING BASED THE ADOPTION.  PACKAGE AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO  COME BACK TO THE CITY  COMMISSION. I CAN TELL YOU  THAT YOU KNOW. CREATE 2011  YEARS. BEFORE THE SUBSTANTIAL  CHANGES TO THE COMMUNITY  PLANNING ACT. THAT WAS NOT ON  COMMENT. AND THE CURRENT  ENVIRONMENT, IT IS ON COMMA.  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> I'M SORRY I'M GOOD I HAVE  MY QUESTION I WOULD SIMPLY  STATE I WOULD HAVE NO  OBJECTION TO MAKING. THE  AMENDED DOCUMENT AVAILABLE TO  ALL OF OUR ADVISORY GROUPS I  SAID I THINK THAT WOULD A GOOD  THING TO DO. BUT LET'S KEEP  MOVING FORWARD. I DON'T WANT  DELAY THIS. ANYMORE.  >> OK AND YES, I JUST WANT TO  RIGHT THAT WE HAVE THIS HAS  BEEN DRAGGING ON FOR A VERY  LONG TIME AND LIKE THIS  APPROACH BECAUSE YES AS  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SAID  WHEN WE HAVE THESE THREATS FOR  THE COMP PLAN. IT LIKE THE BIG  PICTURE AND THEN ULDC TO ME IS  LIKE HOW WE MAKE IT WORK NOW  WHEREAS THIS WAY WE SEEM TO  FROM THE OTHER WAY LIKE THIS  IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO WE TALK  ABOUT THE REZONING AND NOW THE  COMPANY REFLECT THAT. GOT IN  ADDITION, WE THE DETAILS FIRST  REALLY IS A BETTER APPROACH TO  SOLVING A PROBLEM RATHER THAN  SAYING. YES THAT'S THAT'S PUT  ON THIS BIG PARTY, BUT NOW  LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW PAY FOR  IT INSTEAD KNOWING WHAT YOUR  BUDGET IS FIRST AND THEN YOU  CAN FIGURE OUT HOW BIG OF A  PARTY AGAIN PEOPLE HAVE  HAPPENED COMMENTING ON ON THE  CODES AND. THIS IS JUST REALLY  TO TO GET EVERYTHING IN LINE  WITH IT BUT COME WITH  EVERYTHING AND PEOPLE STILL  HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE  COMMENT 2 TO 100 SUPPORT AND  THE ADVISORY BOARDS TOO. THEY  VERY WELCOME TO TO LOOK AT ANY  DOCUMENT ASIDE FROM BEING A  MEMBER OF THAT BOARD PUTIN  COMMENTS AND WE'VE HAD  DISCUSSIONS, I'M SURE EVERY  SINGLE ONE OF US THAT HAVE  TALKED WITH RESIDENTS ABOUT  VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THIS SO.  THEY HAVE BEEN HURT  COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAID WE  NEED TO MOVE ON. SO  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL YOU  ABOUT.  >> QUESTION NO I WAS GOING TO  MAKE A MOTION PRIOR TO  ADOPTING THE CONTINUANCE  MOTION. OH OKAY. IF I MAY MAKE  A MOTION TO HAVE CITY MANAGER  PROVIDE THE ADVISORY BOARDS. A  COPY OF THE COMP PLAN.  REVISIONS FOR THEIR REVIEW AND  RECOMMENDATIONS TO COMMISSION  AND ALSO TO HAVE THE COMP PLAN  DRAFT PLACED ON THE WEBSITE AS  SOON AS POSSIBLE.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  BAIT MADE BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL CITY CLERK DID YOU  >> CAPTURE THAT.  >> WOULD JUST NEED ADD. MOTION  TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER  PROVIDE THE ADVISORY BOARD THE  COPY OF PLANNED REVISIONS FOR  THEIR REVIEW AND  RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS.  RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE  COMMISSION AND FOR THE COP  PLANNED TO BE PLACED ON THE  WEBSITE SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE  DRAFT. PLAN DROP DROP PLANNING  COUPON WEBSITE OK SO WE HAVE  THAT MOTION MADE BY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL DO I  HAVE A SECOND. YEAH, ALL  RIGHT, WE HAVE SECOND BY VICE  MAYOR. IF THERE'S NOTHING OUT.  WE'RE OKAY. VOTE ON THAT.  >> YOU KNOW ON SECOND STEP IS  COMING DOWN, I DON'T KNOW IF  THE TOP 2.  >> YES MA'AM, I'M. STAFF WOULD  REQUEST SOME CLARITY. AS TO  THE MOTION.  >> WAS AMOUNT OF ALL TO  PROVIDING A COPY OF THE DRAFT  COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ALL THE  CITY BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.  >> HOWEVER AS TO OBTAIN AN  RECCOMENDATIONS. BOARDS AND  COMMITTEES THAT WOULD REQUIRE  STAFF TEND AND PRESENTATION AT  AT THOSE MEETINGS WE HAVE  AGENDA ITEM AND IN ORDER TO  ENGAGE A RECOMMENDATION FROM A  OR SO ARE YOU SEEKING  RECOMMENDATIONS FROM ANY  INDIVIDUAL MEMBER AND WOULD  LIKE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK OR  ARE YOU ASKING FOR BOARD  RECOMMENDATIONS. BOARD  RECOMMENDATIONS AS I HAVE THE  LEFT AS FAR AS MEETING, YOU  KNOW SCHEDULING MEETINGS WITH  ALL OF THOSE AND THE TIMELINE  THAT PEYTON MORNING EXPECTING  TO BRING THIS ALL TO FRUITION.  IF WE COULD PLEASE GET SOME  CLARITY I COULD.  >> AND HAVE THAT CANNOT  PROVIDE INDIVIDUAL  RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE  COMMISSION NEEDS TO BE  PRESENTED TO ADVISORY BOARD AS  A WHOLE WITH THEIR GROUP  RECOMMENDATION MORE OTHERWISE  THIS THEY'RE JUST A MOMENT DID  NOT ADVISE OR BOARD MEMBERS  PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS.  >> OKAY WE HAVE THAT MOTION  READ BACK AGAIN, I'M SORRY I  DON'T THINK A LOT TO DIRECT  THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE  ADVISORY BOARDS A COPY OF THE  DRAFT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN  REVISIONS FOR RECOMMENDATION  TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND TO  PLACE THE DRAFT ON THE WEBSITE  AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.  >> WE'RE ASKING THE COURTS TO  RECOMMENDATION AS A THE.  >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE  CITY CLERK SAID THAT ADVISORY  BOARDS DON'T ACT AN INDIVIDUAL  CAPACITY THEY WORK AS A BOARD  AND YES THEY WOULD HAVE TO  REVIEW THE COMP PLAN. I DON'T.  >> SO THE CITY CODE AND THE  STATE STATUTES PROVIDE FOR  PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY  BOARD TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS  ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO  ANY FEEDBACK FROM ANY OF THE  BOARDS AND COMMITTEES BE ON  THE PLANNING AND ZONING  ADVISORY BOARD EXTRA.  >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD  THAT IF WE DO NEED TO PRESENT  TO ALL OF THE BOARD'S WE WILL  NOT MAKE OUR TIMELINE WE WILL  JUST NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUSH  ALL OF THE MEETINGS. FIRST  READINGS AND SECOND READINGS  UNTIL AFTER THE AUGUST BREAK.  IT IS JUST WHAT IT IS THE  COMMISSION JUST BE AWARE OF  THAT. WE WILL DO WHATEVER THE  COMMISSION WOULD LIKE, BUT  THERE SIMPLY IS NO WAY TO  SCHEDULE ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS  AND HAVE STAFF ATTEND ALL OF  THEM AND MAKE PRESENTATIONS  AND THEN GET THE  RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THOSE  PORTS. AND MAINTAIN OUR FIRST  AND SECOND READINGS SCHEDULE.  RIGHT ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN'T  GET CORUM JOHNSON, SOME OF  THEM OVER THE SUMMER. OKAY,  THANKS FRONT.  >> YEAH FOR ME THERE AND PUT  IS JUST AS IMPORTANT TO STAFF  AND DEPARTMENTAL IMPORT. IT.  IT IS WHAT IT AND YOU KNOW I  THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT  WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION  ABOUT A PLAN CHANGE THIS IS  THE FIRST TIME WE ARE HAVING A  DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COMP PLAN  AND IT'S RECOMMENDED CHANGES  EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT REALLY  HAVING THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT  BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE  MATERIALS IN FRONT OF US WERE  KIND OF IN THE DARK AS HOUSE  IT STANDS AT THESE HOW  SUBSTANCE OF CHANGES ARE AND  WHAT THIS DOCUMENT ENTAILS WE  HAVE NOT SEEN IT. AND I  APPRECIATE STAFF AND AND WHAT  YOUR SAYING AND I APPRECIATE  STAFF'S WILLINGNESS TO WORK  WITH US ON THIS. HAS THE CITY  ATTORNEY TO REVIEW COMP PLAN  SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING  PIECES AND I REALLY FEEL THAT  THE ADVISORY BOARDS IMPORT IS  JUST AS VITAL AS STAFFS CITY  ATTORNEYS AND ANY DEPARTMENT  NEEDS.  >> SO I'M OKAY WE HAVE A  MOTION ON ON THE TABLE TO THE  NEARBY KNEW THAT NEEDED. I DID  HAVE A REPEAT IT. SECOND TIME  YES, I THINK WE SHOULD BE CUT  UNLESS WE DO HAVE ANYBODY.  ONCE OKAY, SO LET'S VOTE. CAN  YOU CLEAR THE VOTE I NEED OUT  OKAY. AND OVER.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT MOTION  FAILS ONE TO  >> ANYBODY WANT.  >> MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.  >> OK, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT  AND I KNOW SENATOR YES AND AND  THAT IS I I THINK SOME OF OUR  ADVISORY GROUP SOME ARE MORE  EQUAL THAN OTHERS IN THIS  PARTICULAR INSTANCE. AND SO I  THINK AT THE LEAST I WOULD  LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR  CONSERVATION BOARD I  UNDERSTAND YOUR REACHED OUT TO  THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES  UNSUCCESSFULLY. I THINK WE  SHOULD TRY ONE MORE TIME. AND  SEE WE CAN GET THEIR FEEDBACK  SEEMS TO ME THAT THE POINT IS  WELL TAKEN THAT THESE CHANGES  ARE REALLY IMPACTING  EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY BUT  IN PARTICULAR THE CONSERVATION  GROUP I LIKE TO HEAR FROM.  >> WE DO HAVE A CURRENT  REQUEST OUT TO THE BOARD RIGHT  NOW ASKING FOR A SPECIAL  MEETING AND WE ARE WAITING TO  HEAR BACK FROM THEM.  >> DUE TO  >> MEETING WE.  >> HAD SCHEDULED AND AT THE  MEETING THERE WAS ARM AND THEN  ANOTHER TIME WE WHERE WE TEND  TO TO GET A SPECIAL MEETING  BUT WE COULDN'T ESTABLISH THAT  WEEK.  >> I MEAN YOU HAVE NOBODY IN  ROOM AND THE CURRENT SCHEDULE  TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THAT  PARTICULAR BOARD AND GET THEIR  FEEDBACK THAT SO JUST SENT  POINT OF CLARITY APRIL 22ND  MEETING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL  ADVISORY BOARD WITH THE  REQUESTED SPECIAL MEANING  SPECIFICALLY FOR CHAPTER 6  NATURAL RESOURCES, I'VE  STOPPED 100 THE MEETING THERE  WAS QUALM THE MEETING NOT BE  HELD.  >> MAY 6 ON IDEA MEETING OUT  OF THE CHAPTER 6 TO JOHN STAFF  ATTENDED THE MEETING THERE WAS  WE WERE UNABLE TO OPEN  MEETING. SO WE HAVE  COMMUNICATED WITH AWARD ASKING  FOR THEIR AVAILABILITY FOR A  SPECIAL MEETING ON WE'RE  WAITING RESPONSES FROM THIS  BOARD MEMBERS AS TO THEIR  AVAILABILITY.  >> ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER LIKE  TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION SEEING  THAT THAT ONE FAILED IN THAT  ONE HAD A 2 PARTER I'D LIKE TO  HAVE THE CITY MANAGER PLACE  THE DRAFT COM PLAN ON THE  CITY'S WEBSITE AS SOON AS  POSSIBLE.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER  POST THE DRAFT PLAN OF THE  COMP PLAN CHANGES ON THE  CITY'S WEBSITE AS SOON AS  POSSIBLE. A SECOND FOR  DISCUSSION ALL RIGHT THAT  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LINED  SESSION TAKING AWAY. YEAH, MY  MY.  >> QUESTION ON THAT IS MY  UNDERSTANDING ALREADY ON THE  WEBSITE AS AN ATTACHMENT TO IT  HE'S APPS AGENDA DID I  UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY.  >> THAT IS WE WE CAN ALSO ADD  IT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING  WEBSITE. SO THAT IF PEOPLE  ELECT THE ULDC WEBSITE PAGE  SHOULD BE THERE.  >> YES, SO I WOULD I WOULD  JUST ASK THE MOTION MAKER IT  FOR DO YOU WANT TO RESTATE THE  MOTION SHALL I.  >> RECOMMEND AN AMENDMENT.  HOWEVER, YOU'D LIKE TO GO AND  HAVE PLACED ON THE ULDC  WEBSITE PAGE AS A FRIENDLY  AMENDMENT, I DON'T KNOW  >> ARE PARLIAMENTARIAN WANTS  MEANS TO BE AN ACTUAL  AMENDMENT SINCE IT STARTED IN  OKAY I MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT  THE DOCUMENT THEY POSTED ON  THE CITY WEBSITE. I'M IN THE  SAME SECTION AS THE ULDC  INFORMATION. AND I'LL SECOND.  >> I WILL HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO  HAVE PLAN CHANGES. BASED ON  FOR THAT. WELL FOR THE COMP  PLAN CHANGES IN PLACE ON THE  PLANNING AND WE'LL HAVE THAT  RIGHT NOW THE ULDC WITH AGE  PAIGE THANK AND THAT WAS  SECONDED BY.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL ALL  RIGHT LET'S VOTE ON THAT  COMMISSIONERS OR VICE MAYOR  STOKES BEEN PLANNED.  >> JUST THAT I BELIEVE STAFF  ARE ALREADY INDICATED THEY  WOULD DO EXACTLY THIS BUT  EVERYBODY FEELS WARM AND FUZZY  ABOUT EMOTION OF GOOD THAT.  >> IF YOU HAVE ON THAT. THIS  IS FOR THE AMENDMENT. DIDN'T  TAKE IT SORRY GUYS. CA. THAT  PASSES 4 TO 0.  >> SO NOW WE ARE MOVING TO THE  ACTUAL.  >> MOTION. SO  >> THAT. AND WE  AND THAT  PASSES 4 TO ALL RIGHT. THAT'S  AND WE NEED ANOTHER AND THAT  WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE  RIGHT ORIGINAL PURPOSE FOR  SITTING HERE FOR THIS THAT.  ABOUT THE INSIDE TRACK THERE.  AND THAT'S ALRIGHT, I'M  LOOKING FOR A MOTION.  >> I'LL MAKE HAD BEEN A MAYOR  I MOVED TO CONTINUE FIRST  READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER  2024 DASH 0, 9, TO THE MAY  28TH 2024 COMMISSION MEETING.  >> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE  BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON TO TO  CONTAIN THE FIRST READING OF  THIS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024  DASH 0, 9, TO THE 5/28/2024  COMMISSION MEETING AND THAT  WAS SECONDED BY. VICE MAYOR  STOKES IF THERE'S NOTHING  ELSE.  >> LETS BOTH.  >> AND THAT PASSES THE BOARD  TO 0.  >> ALL RIGHT WE WE GOOD YOU  GUYS WANT TAKE IT WILL TAKE  TIME TIME. SURE MINUTES ALL  TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.  WE'RE COMING BACK AT  >> THAT THE LAST RAIN THAT IS  NOT LETTING IS DOING ITS JOB.  >> HELLO MY NAME'S A VAN FULL  PRODUCTS FACILITY MANAGER WITH  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT AND  TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE  TALKING WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT  OUR FREE FROM A VALUATION IT'S  IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NEED  EVALUATIONS SO KIDS  REGISTERING FOR SWIM PROGRAMS  THEY GET PLACED IN THE RIGHT  CLASS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT  MORE DOING THAT'S SOMETHING  THAT YOU ATION IS EVERY SWIM  LEVEL HAS WHAT'S CALLED EXIT  SKILL ASSESSMENTS. SO WHAT WE  DO IS WE HAVE YOUR CHILD GET  IN THE WATER AND WILL GO  THROUGH A SERIES OF DIFFERENT  MOVEMENTS CAN YOU GO INTO THE  WATER I CAN YOU SHOW US YOUR  PHONE CALL CAN YOU SHOW US  BACK ALL SHOWS ELEMENTARY BACK  DIFFERENT STROKES WITHIN AND  WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE  TRYING TO SEE. YOUR CHILD TEST  TO BEFORE IT BECOMES A  CHALLENGE FOR AT THAT POINT  WHAT WE ASSESS THAT THAT WILL  LET YOU KNOW AND YOU CAN GO  AHEAD AND SIGN YOUR CHILD UP  FOR THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL  THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE  HAVE THESE SO THAT WAY WHEN  WE'RE TEACHING A LEVEL ONE WE  DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT SHOULD  POTENTIALLY A LEVEL 2 AND  LEVEL ONE CLASS BECAUSE  THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE  APPROPRIATE SKILLS THAT THEY  NEEDED THAT POINT IN TIME  RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE IN FULL  SUMMER WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE  COME BETWEEN 8.10 DEDUCE FROM  A VALUATION JUST AS YOU CAN  HEAR THE WATER SPLASHING IN  THE BACKGROUND SLIDE.  EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANY  DAY OF THE THAT OPEN YOU CAN  COME IN AT ANY POINT IN TIME  ENOUGH FOR SOME EVALUATIONS WE  ALWAYS HAVE A CERTIFIED SO  MUCH DOCTOR ON SITE THAT HAVE  YOUR CHILD TAKE A SWIM  ASSESSMENT.  ♪ >> I'M STACEY LASALLE AND THE  EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT  COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT AND I'M GOING TO  BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN  EVACUATION PLAN IT'S A POINT  HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN AHEAD  OF TIME AND IT'S VERY  IMPORTANT TO WRITE IT DOWN  BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU HAVE IT  SOMEWHERE PRESENT FOR  EVERYBODY IN YOUR FAMILY CAN  SEE IT AND KEEP IT FRESH IN  THEIR MINDS AND YOU WANT TO  ALSO SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE IN  YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR NEIGHBORS  SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT YOUR  PLANS ARE AHEAD OF TIME AND  HOW TO GET A HOLD OF YOUR WAY  TO LOOK FOR YOU AFTER A  DISASTER FOR YOUR EVACUATION  YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE  ROUTES TO GET TO LOCATION.  YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO JUST  BECAUSE TRAFFIC WAS TRAFFIC ON  75 MIGHT BE GRIDLOCKED THERE  COULD BE SOME VERY GOOD BACK  ROADS TO GET TO WHERE YOU'RE  GOING THAT COULD GET YOU THERE  MORE QUICKLY WITHOUT BEING  STUCK IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE  MAKING EVACUATION PLAN. WE  USUALLY TELL YOU 4 DIFFERENT  THINGS YOU SHOULD STAY HOME IF  YOU ARE NOT IN HIS OWN THAT'S  BEING EVACUATED AND IF YOUR  HOME IS BUILT TO WITHSTAND THE  FORECASTED STORM IF YOU CAN  STAY HOME. AND YOU EVACUATE  YOUR NEXT OPTION SHOULD BE TO  GO TO A FRIEND OUR FAMILY'S  HOME THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE  EVACUATION AREA AND IT IS  STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO US AND  THE STORM OPTION WOULD BE GO  TO A HOTEL. THEY'RE MUCH MORE  COMFORTABLE THAN I'VE  ACCUSATION. CENTER'S 4TH  OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO ONE  OF OUR EVACUATION CENTER  SARASOTA COUNTY HAS FALLEN  BACK AWAY SHUNS CENTER'S.  THOSE CAN BE FOUND ON  ♪ THEIR WEBSITE.  >> WHY DO WE FLOOD. DURING  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS PORT  NEARLY ALWAYS FLOODS IN  CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.  THIS IS THANKS TO THE LOCALLY  NAMED MYAKKA HACHI CREEK ALSO  KNOWN AS THE BIG SLEW  WATERSHED.  >> THE 195 SQUARE MILE  DRAINAGE AREA FLOWS THROUGH  DESOTO MANATEE AND SARASOTA  COUNTIES THEN THROUGH OUR CITY  TO EXIT AT CHARLOTTE HARBOR.  AS THE CITY OF NORTH PORT IS  LOCATED AT THE LOW END OF THE  BIG SLEW WATERSHED DRAINAGE  SYSTEM. THE CITY'S CURRENT  FLOODING AND WATER QUALITY  CONDITIONS ARE ATTRIBUTED NOT  ONLY TO THE CITY'S GROWTH BUT  ALSO TO UPSTREAM RUNOFF AND  THE DESOTO MANATEE AND  SARASOTA COUNTY PORTIONS OF  THE BIG SLOW. DURING  SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS  PONDING CAN ALSO OCCUR PONDING  OCCURS AND LOW-LYING AREAS  THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED BY  POORLY DRAINED OR SUPER  SATURATED SOILS WITH  BACK-TO-BACK RAINFALL EVENTS  THE GROUND IS TOTALLY  SATURATED WHICH INCREASES THE  RUNOFF DURING A STORM. THE  CITY WORKS HARD TO MAINTAIN  ITS STORMWATER CONVEYANCE  SYSTEM WHICH IS COMPRISED OF  ROADSIDE SWALES DRAINING INTO  79 MILES OF NAMED WATERWAYS.  >> AND 132 MILES OF RETENTION  DITCHES THAT INTERCONNECT WITH  EACH OTHER AND WITH THE MYAKKA  HACHI CREEK. THERE ARE 64  WATER CONTROL STRUCTURES OF  WHICH 23 ARE GATED WATER  CONTROL STRUCTURES 5 ARE GATED  DROP STRUCTURES, 28 ARE FIXED.  WE'RE STRUCTURES AND 8 ARE  DROPPED STRUCTURES.  >> CONTROL ELEVATIONS OF THE  STRUCTURES ARE DESIGNED SO 38  AND WE'RE RECONVENING THIS  WELL THEY GOT A RESOLUTION  NUMBER 2024 DASH R DASH 17.  CITY CLERK WITH THIS BY TITLE  ONLY.  >> NUMBER 2024 DASH R DASH 17  A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY  COMMISSION OF  THE CITY OF NORTH PORT, FL  AMENDING THE NON-DISTRICT  BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT  BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023  DASH 2024. WE'RE DESIGN BUT  POLICE HEADQUARTERS PUBLIC OUR  PROJECTIONS EMERGENCY  OPERATION CENTER CAPITAL KUNST  CONTRIBUTION STRICT MORGAN  CENTER REROUTE AND TO TIRE  BOUNCERS AND THE AMOUNT OF  20 MILLION DOLLARS $359,097  PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS  PROVIDING FOR POSTING  PROVIDING FOR COMPLEX  PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND  PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.  >> THANK YOU MANAGER THIS IS  YOUR ITEM.  >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR COME  WITH ITEM I WAS SUPPOSED ASK  YOU BEFORE THE BREAK AS A  WHITE MITSUBISHI OUTLANDER IN  A OUT THE PARK 11 NEED TO BE  MOVED TO THE SIDE WORKS  SIDEWALK IS BEING DONE  SOMETHING WITH OPEN TO  VEHICLES PLEASE A MOVE THAT  YOU CAN DO OF THE GARDENS  FOUND NEAR A VENT COURT  REJECTED THE AFOREMENTIONED  6 MILLION DOLLARS. THIS BUT  MANY WILL COME UP WITH BALANCE  COMPLETION OF SIGHT GREETED  EXTRACTION WE ENDED OUR  MEETING TODAY POLICE  HEADQUARTERS IN THE IN A ROOM,  49,700 WILL COME FROM THE  PUBLIC WORKS COUNT BALLOTS FOR  THE 2 PUBLIC ART PROJECT AND  THE NORTH PORT MYAKKA CREECH  PEAK GREENWAY TRAIL. 3 MILLION  DOLLARS CODE FROM THE  TRANSPORTATION IMPACT NO IT'S  FOR THE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION  TO WEST VILLAGE IMPROVEMENT  DISTRICT. 11 MILLION DOLLAR  SURTAX ON BALLOTS TO FUND THE  EMERGENCY OPERATING CENTER AND  37,000 COOKING THE FEAST ABOUT  THE 2 TIRE WE ASKED YOU ADOPT  RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH  OUR 17 AS PRESENTED WE HAVE  ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.  ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.  >> AND LOOKING FOR  COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.  >> YES THE 4 MILLION DOLLARS  FOR THE SITE DRAINAGE AND  CONSTRUCTION FOR THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS. IN THE THE  PROJECT WAS COMMINGLED WITH  IOS E. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW  IS THIS REPORT MILLION DOLLARS  ONLY FOR NORTH PORT PD  HEADQUARTERS OR IS IT ALSO TO  BRING THE BOC TO THE 100%  DESIGN.  >> THIS IS FOR THE POLICE  DEPARTMENT WHICH CITY  COMMISSION IS ALREADY APPROVED  TO COME FROM FUND BALANCES  THAT THE ACTUAL PAPERWORK TOO  EXECUTE ON THAT THREAT.  >> SO IT'S NO SEE I JUST NEED  CONFIRMATION.  >> WE ALREADY EXCLUDE THE  YOU'LL SEE IN THIS IS JUST FOR  BALANCE, BUT THE POLICE  HEADQUARTERS.  >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  >> THE ART FUND HAS A SEPARATE  FUND. I'M SHERRI US. WHAT THE  SOURCE OF REVENUE THAT. SO THE  ART FUND GAME. IS PAYING FOR  THAT $49,700. YES GO TO  QUESTION. YES, IT'S.  >> 49,000 LOOK UP IN THE  PUBLIC ARTS COUNT.  >> NOW OK BECAUSE IT IT'S ALL  LISTED UNDER GENERAL FUND IN I  KNOW THAT IT'S ALL PART OF THE  GENERAL FUND BUT YOU KNOW WE  HAVE THE TREE FUND. IT'S ALSO  PART. WAS SEPARATE.  >> THE PUBLIC ART IS ACCOUNT,  IT'S NOT A PUBLIC IT'S NOT A  FUND ACCOUNT WITH THEM. THE  GENERAL FUND TREATMENT IS A  SEPARATE FUND. THANK YOU FOR  THAT  >> THE  >> MORGAN CENTER REGROUPS.  MANY PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING THIS  VERY CLOSELY I'M CURIOUS IF  ANYBODY AND I KNOW IT'S NOT  RELATED TO THE. BUDGET  AMENDMENT. BUT IF THIS BUDGET  AMENDMENT IS APPROVED WHAT IS  AN ETA TO COMPLETE THE ROOF AC  AND GET THE FLOORING.  >> I  >> BELIEVE THAT WITH THE MEMO  THAT WE SNOW LAST WEEK WAS IT  NOT DIRECTOR. WE DO NOT HAVE  AN ETA THING IT'S COMPLETE IS  STILL GOING TO TAKE MULTIPLE  MONTHS.  >> AND IF AND HOW OUR PARKS  RECREATION DIRECTOR. THIS IS  JUST PUT THE FUNDING IN PLACE  WE WILL NEED TO COME BACK WITH  A CONTRACT AMENDMENT ARE THE  ACTUAL WORK. WE ANTICIPATE  THAT IN READING IN JULY.  >> IN ONE OF THE QUESTIONS  THAT I ASK BECAUSE WE APPROVED  A $165,000 BACK IN JANUARY.  FOR THE FLOORING IN TIMBER YOU  SEE ITS STATED THAT THIS  165,000 IS BEING REALIGNED BE  BUDGET TRANSFER TO SUPPORT  STORM DAMAGE REPAIRS  IDENTIFIED AT THE AQUATIC  CENTER. IS THAT GOING TO COME  FORWARD FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT  IN THE FUTURE. AND WHAT DAMAGE  AT THE AQUATIC CENTER.  >> A 165,000 ALREADY. FORD IS  A BUDGET AMENDMENT. WE ARE  JUST IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO  WHEN WE FIRST LOOKING AT. TO  TRANSFER ONLY WERE. I'M  LOOKING AT THE DAMAGE  POST-HURRICANE AND AND GIVING  ESTIMATES WHAT WE THOUGHT IT  WOULD COST TO REPAIR. SO NOW  THIS WOULD BE TAKING THAT  FUNDING TRANSFERRING IT INTO  COUNT THAT WE NEED TO DO THE  AQUATIC CENTER REPAIRS. THE ON  COME FORWARD FOR THE AQUATIC  CENTER REPAIRS. ONCE WE HAVE  THAT FUNDING IN PLACE.  >> SO THE 165,000 INITIALLY  CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION HAS  A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO FIX THE  MORGAN CENTER.  >> THAT JUST IGNORED TO  SUPPORT THE AIR-CONDITIONED  THE SOLUTION WITH AIR  CONDITIONING FACT THE REPAIR  AND THAT IS NO LONGER  HAPPENING SO YOU'RE TAKING THE  165,000.  >> AND APPLYING IT TO THE  AQUATIC CENTER. YES, DOES THAT  NEED TO COME FORWARD AS  OPPOSED TO WHAT IS THE BUDGET  TRANSFER FOR A BUDGET  AMENDMENT NOW IT WAS ALREADY  DONE A BUDGET AMENDMENT WE'RE  JUST DOING A TRANSFER POINT.  >> WHAT'S GOING TO COME  FORWARD IS THE CONTRACT. THE  MOMENT, SAME AS WITH THE  MORGAN CENTER WE'RE GOING TO  BRING THAT FORWARD WITH THE.  >> A PROPOSAL THAT WE GET. OR  APPROVAL, WE NEED THE FUNDING  IN PLACE. TODAY WE BROUGHT  FORWARD REQUESTS FOR THE  BUDGET AMENDMENT TO DO THE  MORGAN CENTER IN FULL. NOT  INCLUDING A 165 AND 65 WAS  ALREADY DONE AS WE LIKE TO  APPLY IT TO THE AQUATIC CENTER  REPAIRS WHICH CAME IN HIGHER  THAN WHAT WE ESTIMATE.  >> AND WILLIAMS FINANCE  DIRECTOR JUST FOR  CLARIFICATION BUDGET TRANSFERS  ARE WITHIN THE AUTHORITY OF  THE CITY MANAGER SO WE'VE  WE'VE USED THAT TROOPS OKAY  AND AND.  >> WHEN IT'S COMING FROM ONE  AND GOING TO ANOTHER AND I'M  HEARING TRANSFER AN AMENDMENT  I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE  WERE GOING TO. THANK YOU FOR I  JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS  REGARDING THE EO SEEM SO I CAN  YIELD IF SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ANY  QUESTIONS BUT THE MAJORITY OF  MY QUESTIONS ARE NOW RELATING  TO IOC. IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY  QUESTIONS I'LL MOVE FORWARD,  I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING.  >> SO FAR SO TECHNO OKAY.  >> SO FIRST OFF I WANT TO  THANK STAFF FOR THE ONE-ON-ONE  IT WAS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL  EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND I  APPRECIATE THEIR TIME AND  CLARITY.  >> SO IF THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT  IS APPROVED FOR THE  11 MILLION. WHAT IS THE ETA  FOR A 100% DESIGN.  >> GOOD MORNING, I'M TIM  HUMPHREY PROJECT MANAGER AND  PUBLIC FROM THE TIME THAT WE  BRING OUR TO YOU FOR DESIGNED  9 MONTHS UNTIL WE WOULD BE TO  BIDDING. AND BACK WITH AND FOR  CONSTRUCTION.  >> BREAK IT DOWN SO 9 MONTHS  BASICALLY FOR THE DESIGN GMP.  PERMITTING AND PERMITTING OKAY  SO THEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD  START AFTER THAT 9 MONTHS.  >> CORRECT YOU KNOW THERE ARE  WOULD BE A PAUSE BUT WE BRING  BACK THE GNP FOR KEISHON  APPROVAL, SO YOU DON'T COUPLE  OF MONTHS FOR THAT PROCESS.  >> FIGURE YEAR FROM NOW.  >> HELP ME UNDERSTAND. TAKING  THIS 11.2 MILLION DOLLARS FROM  SURTAX FOR. YEARS 2030 TO 2030  AND APPLY TO THIS PROJECT. HOW  IS THAT POSSIBLE. WHEN 2030.  IT'S 6 YEARS FROM NOW AND  WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO TO  CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR.  >> IF WE HAVE ENOUGH UNBALANCE  IN SURTAX RIGHT NOW TO MOVE  THOSE FORWARD. AND ALSO  NUMBER. WHEN WE PUT SURTAX FOR  TOGETHER. WE WERE PAYING CASH  FOR PRICE PHASE ONE.  >> SO WE WERE COLLECTING ALL  OF THAT BELIEVE IT WAS  60 MILLION WE HADN'T IN THE  PLAN ON THE FIRST 5 YEARS  BORROWING NOW WE'RE NOT PAYING  ALL THAT 60 MILLION IN THE  FIRST 5 YEARS WERE PAYING  SERVICE TO 15 YEARS SO THAT  FLATTENS THAT MONEY OUT A  LITTLE GIVES US FREES UP SOME  MORE FUNDS IN THE BEGINNING OF  THE PLAN.  >> SIRTEX 4 STARTS JANUARY OF  25. OKAY, BUT THE FUNDING THAT  YOU'RE USING.  >> FOR POLICE CLASSROOMS, THE  PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE ROTARY  HAVE OF THROAT FORGET, ROTARY  HAVE INTO EFFECT. THOSE ARE IN  2030 TO 2034.  >> YOU WERE IN THE PLANT IN  2030 2034. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE  SUFFICIENT ON BALANCE IN THE  SEARCH TAX PLAN AND SIRTEX 3  WHICH WILL FLOW INTO SURTAX  FOR TO FUND THIS RIGHT NOW.  AND WE HAVE SUFFICIENT  REVENUES COMING DURING THE  PLANT, YOU KEEP THE REST OF  THE PLAN AND FUND ALL THE  PROJECTS YOU'RE IN IT. RIGHT  AS AS THEY ARE PLANNED.  BECAUSE OF HOW WE HAVE CHANGE.  SPECIALLY PRICED. WE CAN FUND  THIS NOW.  >> WHAT CHANGED ON PRICE  PHASE, ONE.  >> WE ARE SPENDING THE  50 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE  FIRST OR 60 MILLION DOLLARS IN  THE FIRST 5 YEARS, WE'RE JUST  PAYING DEBT SERVICE OVER 15  YEARS. IT'S A SMALLER AMOUNT.  TAKES WHAT WE WERE GOING TO  SPEND. BUT YOU KNOW OR 15  YEARS INSTEAD OF 5 YEARS.  >> SO IT ALLOWS FOR LITTLE  CHANGING OF THE PLAN. MANY  YEARS, HERE'S WHAT SOME OF THE  PROJECTS WERE IN  >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY.  >> I'M SAYING NOTHING ELSE SO  I'M GOING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.  CLOTHING THIS PUBLIC HEARING  AND I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.  >> I'LL MAKE IT HIT I MOVE TO  ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024  DASH R DASH 17 AS PRESENTED  SECOND.  >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION  MADE BY COMMISSIONER LANGDON  TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 24 DASH  FLORIDA. DASH 17 AS PRESENTED  AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY VICE  MAYOR SOAPS IF THERE'S NOTHING  ELSE LET'S VOTE.  AND THAT  PASSES 4 TO 0. ALL RIGHT,  LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 6 WHICH  IS GENERAL BUSINESS 24 DASH 0,  5, ONE  >> CITY CLERK.  >> WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS  IS THE REVIEW OF ADVISORY  BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS OF  POSSIBLE ACTIONS REGARDING THE  ART ADVISORY BOARD MEMORANDUM  OR REQUEST FOR PEOPLE SEE  PROJECT OUR ADVISORY BOARD  MEMORANDUM TO REQUEST FOR  APPROVAL TO HOST A HAVE  COMMEMORATE. HARVEY ARTWORK  AND START ON THE FIRST FLOOR  CITY HALL AND RECREATION  ADVISORY BOARD MEMORANDUM. THE  READING RECOMMENDATIONS TO  PURSUE ADDING 2 PROPERTIES ON  PORTOBELLO AVENUE TO SARASOTA  HAVE DISCUSSION I DO WANT TO  MENTION THAT STAFF HAS ALREADY  COORDINATED COMMISSION HAS  BEEN INVITED TO RIBBON CUTTING  EVENT ON MAY 22ND TO  COMMEMORATE THE ARTWORK ON THE  FIRST FLOOR AND WE DO HAVE  ADVISORY BOARD STAFF LIAISONS  TO SPECIAL MAY HAVE REGARDING  THE THAT STOP  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU AND AS  A MATTER  >> THEY'VE ORGANIZATION YORK  BOTH OF THESE ONE AT A TIME.  IS THAT OKAY.  >> SO START WITH NUMBER ONE  THE ART ADVISORY BOARD'S  REQUEST FOR APPROVAL TO  PROCEED WITH THE PEACE POLE  PROJECT NICE SEE THAT ALL  RIGHT IT IS GORGEOUS YES, SO.  >> TAKE IT AWAY. GOOD MORNING.  COMMISSION MICHAEL WHY I AM  THE STAFF ON FOR THE ART  ADVISORY BOARD. AND I'M ALSO  THE SERVICE TEST TECH  COMMISSIONER OF SUPPORT FOR  THE AND I WANT INTRODUCE YOU  GUYS GOES  >> AND SHE IS ONE OF ACTUAL  BOARD MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND  IS PUTTING THIS PROJECT  FORWARD.  >> THANK YOU VERY I AM.  >> PROPOSING THAT  COMMISSIONERS APPROVED  >> I PUT ADVISORY BOARD 65TH  ANNIVERSARY SO GRATION PUBLIC  ART HE'S ITS SUBMITTED WHAT A  PEACEFUL IS.  >> HE'S POOLS ARE MEANT TO  BRING THAT WAS. ACTUALLY A  VERY NICE MESSAGE TO SEND FOR  OUR WE PREPARE TO PEACEFUL TO  SHOW YOU. AND EXAMPLE, WHAT OF  PEACE BOAT LOOK LIKE. THAT AT  LEAST SIMPLE. ARE ON 3 SIDES  AND THEN HAS MESSAGE ALWAYS  MAY PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH ON  THE FRONT. WE PROPOSED AT  WE'VE MET.  >> FOR MANY YEARS WITH THE ART  ADVISORY BOARD INDIFFERENT OUR  PROJECTS AND WE ALWAYS WANTED  TO DO. A PROJECT THAT  REPRESENTED. PUBLIC ART FOR  THE CITY IN CELEBRATION OF THE  ANNIVERSARY. AND WE CAME UP  WITH THE IDEA OF HAVING 65.  HE'S PULLS PLANTED. IT IS CITY  OF PORT. IN HAVING DIFFERENT  INDIVIDUALS, A WHERE  >> HAVE  >> DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS MIGHT  BE ABLE TO PUT A PEACEFUL IT  WOULD BE PLANTED ON PRIVATE  PROPERTY AND THE ARTISTS A  LEVER WHOEVER GETS THAT PIECE  PULL WOULD BE PLANTED ON THEIR  PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEN THE  NORTH PUT CENTER WOULD HELP I.  ENDING PREPARING PEACE POLES,  HANDING OUT THE PIECE POOLS.  OVERSEEING THE ARE THAT'S PUT  ON THE PEACE POSTMAN GATHERING  THE PICTURES IN THE  INDIVIDUALS IN THE STORIES  BEHIND THE PIECE BULLS  TOGETHER FOR THE ART ADVISORY  BOARD YOU TOO. TO CREATE  SOMETHING FOR THE CITY TOO.  LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WHAT  WE HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY FOR  THEM. 65TH INTENTION IS AT THE  ANNIVERSARY PARTY IN JUNE. WE  WOULD SHOWING PEACEFUL  STARTING TO RECRUIT PEOPLE ARE  INTERESTED IN DOING THE  PEACEFUL AND THEN THROUGHOUT  THE SUMMER WE WOULD TAKE THE  PIECE POOR AROUND IN DIFFERENT  PLACES IN THE CITY WITH THE QR  CODE HOW TO APPLY TO GET A  PEACE POLE AND OUR TENT SO YET  THE PEACE PULLS PREPARE THE  PEACE POLES WITH THE LETTERING  ON THE PEACE POLES AND THEN  GET IT TO ARTIST AND THEN WE  WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE EVENT IN  THE FALL. AS PEACEFUL AS  THEMSELVES ONLY TAKE ABOUT.  WEEKEND A WEEK TO TO PREPARE.  AND THEN IN THE FALL WE WOULD  HAVE A CELEBRATION AGAIN UP TO  THESE PROJECT.  >> AND HACKETT THE EYE  PROVIDED.  >> THERE ARE PICTURES OF.  DIFFERENT WAYS PEOPLE  CELEBRATED PUTTING THEIR PEACE  PULLS OUT. AND THERE'S A  BREAKDOWN IN WHAT IT WOULD  COST. OUR ADVISORY APPROVAL ON  HOW WE WOULD DO. THE PROJECT.  SO JUST. I WOULD ANSWER ANY  >> ALL RIGHT THAT WAS SET GOOD  DAY TO THANK YOU SO AND THAT'S  ONE OF THEM SO I KNOW TOO. FOR  QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH, YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF  THE QUESTIONS I HAD REGARDING  THE LOGISTICS READ RELATED TO  THIS PROJECT, THANK YOU VERY  MUCH. SO. AT THE BIRTHDAY  CELEBRATION IS WHEN PEOPLE  WOULD PICK UP.  >> THERE BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION.  WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT IT TO  EVERYBODY THAT ATTENDS IT WILL  BE OUR FIRST PRESENTATION OF  WHAT THE PEACE BOAT AND  THOUGHT BEHIND IT WHAT ARE ARE  A PUBLIC ART A CONTRIBUTION TO  THE ANNIVERSARY AND WE WILL  START COLLECTING APPLICATIONS  FROM PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE DO  A PEACE POLE IT COULD BE A  GROUP IT COULD BE LIKE A SCOUT  GROUP COULD AN INDIVIDUAL  PERSON. THEY WHOEVER WANTS TO  DO IT WILL BE 65 CHOICES AND  IF WE HAVE YOU KNOW IT DOWN  THEN ART ADVISORY BOARD. WE  HAD IN BUT WE THINK THAT WILL  HAVE 65 INDIVIDUALS IN THE  CITY. CITY TOO. A COUPLE AND  THEN THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER  GIVE US THE TIME HEAR THE  POLLS AND THEN GET THEM TO THE  ARTISTS TOO. GREAT THOUGH, AND  PLANT THEM. AND THEY PLANT  THEM ON THEIR ON THEIR OWN  PROPERTY S WEEK WE DO REALIZE  THAT THERE IS AMOUNT OF  RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE  POINT IT WOULD BE THAT  INDIVIDUAL PERSON'S  RESPONSIBILITY ALONG WITH A B  PLAN TO 4. IT COULD BE PLANTED  DON'T SEE PORT  >> A VINYL FENCE POSTS SO IT'S  MEANT TO.  >> IN THEIR 2025 30 YEARS. THE  ACTUAL LETTERING IS GREAT ONE  SO IT COULD BE ON THE 2030  YEARS. HOWEVER, LONG THAT IT  WOULD HAVE TO PUT A LOGO ON  THE TOP I'M READING THE 65TH  ANNIVERSARY SO YOU COULD BE  OUT LONG A BORDER, THE FUTURE  ADVISORY BOARDS WISHES WE  COULD PLAN A NEW POLL FOR  EVERY COULD BE THERE ALWAYS AT  LEAST SO THERE WERE A 100.  >> THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT  THEY HAVE IT ON THERE PRIVATE  PROPERTY FOR 20 OR NO NO NO  IT'S TERMS THAT COULD HAPPEN  SO IT.  >> IS THERE ANY COST TO THE  ARTISTS TO GET ONE OF THOSE  POLLS.  >> THERE WILL NOT BE A COP  CARS TO THE ARTS TO ACTUALLY  GET PEOPLE ALL THE THE  EXPENSES REGARDING THE POOL IS  INCLUDED IN PROJECTED COST.  ONLY THING ARTIST AND THAT  DOESN'T HAVE CAUGHT BECAUSE  ACTUALLY HAVE SEEN THEM  DECORATED IN SHELLS ON THAT IT  WOULD JUST BE COST THE PAY  WHATEVER. IT WAS 2 DECORATED  AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF  THE CAR.  >> THAT'S ON THE QUESTIONS I  HAVE GREAT IDEA, THANK YOU  THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR  BOARDS ARE THINK IT'S REALLY  COOL AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE  IT MAYBE NOT EVERY YEAR BUT  MAYBE OF NOVI THAT'S GOING TO  BE INVOLVED AND NO SOONER TO  GET DONE WITH ONE YOU WOULD BE  STARTING THE OTHER ONE SO  MAYBE EVERY  THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK  ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> YES I LOVE THE IDEA I THINK  IT'S VERY CREATIVE AND IT'S  SUCH A POSITIVE MESSAGE. THE  65 MAYBE GO UP A LITTLE BIT  BUT IT'S SORT OF ADDRESSED  WOULD JUST STICK LEE HOW WOULD  HAPPEN. IF THAT WAS SENDING 65  POLLS AND WE'RE HAVING OUR  CELEBRATION IN JUST A MATTER  OF WAS LIKE I'M LETTING MY  BREATH OUT. WHAT I DO I SAY  THIS DO YOU HAVE ANY  EXPECTATIONS OR DESIRES. WHICH  PROPERTY OWNERS WHERE SO FOR  EXAMPLE I LIVE ON A LITTLE  BACK STREET CAN I GET ONE PUT  IT IN MY BACKYARD DOES THAT  HAVE TO BE MY FRONT YARD. A  GOOD FRIEND OF MINE LIVES ON  PRICE THAT GET A WHOLE LOT  MORE VISIBILITY THAN IT WOULD  IN MY FRONT YARD SO HAVE YOU  SORT OF THOUGHT IT TARGETING  CERTAIN AREAS FOR MAXIMUM  VISIBILITY.  >> THAT IS NOT EXCELLENT  QUESTION BECAUSE YES WE DID  DISCUSS THIS.  >> I  >> THINK THAT.  >> WE WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE  PEOPLE THE WE NEED THROUGHOUT  WITH PORT AGAIN I CHECKED  ITSELF IS ABOUT UNITY AND IT'S  ABOUT EVERYBODY CELEBRATING  AND WHETHER BE CELEBRATING THE  CITY CELEBRATING. IT'S EARTH  CELEBRATING FAMILY, WHATEVER  WHATEVER SONG MAYBE EVERYBODY  TO BE INVOLVED. SO YES, WE  KNEW THE PRISTINE DIVERSITY.  THE ONLY REQUIREMENT THAT WE  WOULD ASK IS THAT WE COULD  TAKE A PICTURE OF THE POLL  THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE ON THE  SITE WOULD HAVE ALL THE POLLS  TODAY WE WOULD BE SUBMITTING  THE INTERNATIONAL PEACE.  PROJECT SO ALL THESE PICTURES  INFORMATION WOULD BE AVAILABLE  THERE. IF THE ARTISTS WOULD  LIKE THE PICTURE. WE WOULD  LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT IF THE  ARTIST WOULD LIKE THE STORY.  WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT  WE'VE HAD COUPLE OF PEOPLE  PURCHASE ALREADY FOR VARIOUS  REASONS LIKE THEIR CANCER  SURVIVOR FOR WHATEVER REASON  REASON WANTING IT WOULD LIKE  HAVE A PEACEFUL AND WE WOULD  LIKE TO SUBMIT STORIES WITH  THE PEACEFUL TO HAVE THAT  AVAILABLE ONLINE AND THEY  DON'T HAVE IT PLACE FOR  VARIOUS REASONS IT'S CASE OF H  H.O.A. PROBLEM OR IN THEIR  BACKYARD. WE WOULD RIGHT.  >> ALSO MENTIONED THAT THEY  WOULD ALL BE PLACED ON PRIVATE  WHAT ABOUT OUR PARKS. HAD A  NICE TO HAVE ONE IN THAT 30  YEAR YOUR HALF DONE. AS YOU  CAN SEE THIS PORTABLE.  >> IT'S NOT CLEAR MOVING  AROUND WE COULD MAKE PEACE  POLES THAT ARE PORTABLE. YES,  IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT  WAS BROUGHT UP TO US  ORIGINALLY IS THAT PARTICULAR.  CITY AND THE SCREEN WISH TO  HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY  TOWARDS PLANTING OR ANYTHING  THAT WE MADE IT'S ABOUT JUST  INDIVIDUALS THAT THE CITY  DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CITY. THE  PROJECT IT COULD I MEAN WE  WOULD BE HAPPY.  >> AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO YOU  WOULDN'T RESTRICTED AND THAT  MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHERE. THE  PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD  AND YOUR ADVISORY BOARD MIGHT  TEAM UP AND DO THE PAST YOU  KNOW SO LONG WE SORT OKAY THE  PUBLIC HE SAID THAT THAT WOULD  BE WONDERFUL. YEAH. THAT'S ALL  I HAVE.  >> ALL RIGHT. THANK VICE  MAYOR.  >> YOU KNOW I LOVE DAY. IT'S A  GREAT IDEA IT IT'S IT'S  SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW AROUND  THE IT WOULD BE A GREAT  ADDITION. IF I REMEMBER  CORRECTLY OR CONVERSATIONS,  TURNING SOME OF THOSE BOARD  MEETINGS ABOUT THIS. I THINK  PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD BE  RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANTING THEIR  OWN FROM LIABILITY STANDPOINT  PRESSURE THAT PROTECT STOOD BY  ITS REPORTS. ART CENTER IN THE  CITY. THAT MIGHT BE A  CONSIDERATION TO LOOK INTO WE  DO. CITY WANT TO DO ANYTHING  IN WAY PUTTING PEACE POLES IN  PARKS OR PROP YOU KNOW  CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. THE OTHER  THING IS AS I SIT BACK AND TO  ITS I THINK IT CAN BE A  CONTINUING TYPE PROGRAM OVER  THE YEARS AS THE REVENUE  GENERATED SENT HELP SUPPLEMENT  YOUR COURSE. THERE ARE SOME  INTERESTING OPPORTUNITIES 65  SOUNDS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, BUT  IT REALLY ISN'T A BIG NUMBER.  WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE SIZE OUR  CITY AND THE NUMBER OF PLAYERS  AT IN ALL VENUES I DON'T KNOW  IF YOU'VE REACHED OUT YET TO  BUILD CHAMBER, BUT IF NOT I'M  HAPPY TO. SO TAKE THAT AND  MAKE THE INTRODUCTIONS I THINK  FOR BUSINESSES ESPECIALLY  WON'T BRICK AND MORTAR. YOU  KNOW, SO MUCH THAT I DON'T  BUSINESS BUT SHORE UP.  BUSINESSES IN THE CITY I THINK  FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM  SHORT MONEY DO SOMETHING THAT  WILL DRAW ATTENTION TO  BUSINESS. SO. THIS IS JUST A  WIN WIN WIN ALL THE WAY AROUND  KUDOS TO YOU GUYS FOR A GREAT  IDEA NEXT COMMISSIONER LUCAS I  KNOW SHE WAS THERE. THE FIRST  MEETING AND I DON'T KNOW IF  WAS HER IDEA, BUT.  >> IT'S A GREAT IDEA. THANK  YOU.  >> YEAH, I LOVE THIS IDEA AND  I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE GETTING ON  BOARD WITH THIS WHEN I WAS  TEACHING OVER NAGLE WAS THE  ROTARY CLUB, I DON'T KNOW IF  THAT WAS PROJECT INITIALLY  THEY CAME TO THE SCHOOL  WOMENWHO BIG DEAL ABOUT  PUTTING UP.  >> A PEACE POLE THERE I WAS  BACK IN 2016. SO I'M I'M GLAD  THAT HE'S ALSO COME TO PORT  MAYBE DISCUSSION I JUST HAD  SOME.  >> WANTS TO CLARIFY I'M SORRY,  I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS. THE  PEOPLE WOULD PAY FOR THEIR  POLL THAT THEY WANT.  >> BREAKDOWN PROJECT COST A  BIT. IT PAYS EVERYTHING AND  PAY FOR.  >> THE POLL ITSELF THAT WE  HAVE YEARS THE ORIGINAL POINT  IT IS A NEW FORM LITTLE BIT  QUIETER. AND BE A LITTLE BIT  TALLER BECAUSE THIS IS HONEST  AND THE ONE WILL BE PLAYING IN  THE GROUNDS ONLY BE A LITTLE  BIT LONGER SO CAN BE PLAIN TO  2 FEET IN THE GROUND.  >> THERE WILL BE  >> OPPOSE CAP PURCHASE FOR  EACH ONE IN THE POLLS CAPPED  WOULD INDICATE THAT IT'S THE  65TH ANNIVERSARY IT WILL  GREETED WITH THE ANNIVERSARY  WHEN THEY GET IT IT WILL HAVE  THAT ALREADY ON THERE. THE  VINYL LETTERING WILL BE  ALREADY ON THERE. IT IS GREAT  FUN IT WILL LAST.  >> AND  >> THERE'S BOOKLETS THAT WILL  BE INSTRUCTION BOOKLETS IT  WILL BE GIVEN OUT EACH ARTIST.  >> THEY DO HAVE ALL THE RULES  OF IT AND THE THAT THEY HAVE  TO THEN THERE'S ALSO IF ART  CENTER WILL MAKE SURE THAT  EACH ARTIST IS BIO OF THE  ARTIST. WHATEVER THEY WISH TO  GIVE AND THEN PHOTOGRAPHS OF  THE PEACE POLE AND THEN IT  WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE  CITY FOR THE CITY IF IT WAS TO  HAVE IT ON THE CITY SITE.  THESE ARE PAID FOR THIS THAT  THE PROJECT COST $4,762 THAT  WILL BE PAID THROUGH THE ART  ADVISORY BOARD OKAY.  >> AND THEN YOU TALKED PEOPLE  HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DECIDE AND  GETS.  >> WHENEVER WE'RE AT THE CITY  IN STREET. IT WILL BE IN JUNE  WE'RE GOING HAVE A PIECE ON  THEN YOU HAVE INITIAL SIGN-UPS  FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE ARE  INTERESTED CAN START SIGNING  AND THEN WE ALSO ARE GOING  MAKE A QR CODE IN THE PAGE ON  THE WEBSITE AND THEN PEOPLE  CAN START TO WHICH AND THEN  PEOPLE CAN QR CODE RED TAKE  THE POINTS SOUTH ON THIS AND  AROUND THE CITY TO PUBLIC  PLACES SO THEY CAN SEE IT AND  THEY CAN SKIN AND LEARN ABOUT  THE PEACE ABOUT THE PEACE POLE  PROJECT. ANTICIPATE ABOUT 3  MONTHS AND SOME ARE HAVING ON  THE 65. PARTICIPANTS CHOSEN IN  DISTRIBUTE HOST TO THEM AND  THEN IT IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG  TO ACTUALLY CREEP INTO THE  WON'T BE  >> YOU'RE NOT ASKING PRETTY.  PAYMENT FROM PERSON WANTS.  >> I KNOW THEY JUST HAVE TO  PUT PAPER HOWEVER, RIGHT  CREATE A DECORATED.  >> AS LOU LIKE IT'S SOMETHING  THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE  OUTSIDE RIGHT SHOWS RUNNING  WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THEN  YOU SAID THE ARTWORK WOULD BE  APPROVED BY THE OUR COURT.  >> YES, THE REPORT OF COURSE  SHE'S THE PEOPLE THAT WE GET  IT IN THE BOARD WOULD MAKE  SURE THAT THE ARTIST THAT THE  PERSON HAVE SUBMIT THEIR  ARTWORK EVERYTHING THAT THEY  WANT ON THERE AND THEN THAT  WOULD BE APPROVED AND THEN YOU  WANT TO TAKE CARE OF ACTUALLY  PUTTING IT ON. YES, YES, WE'RE  NOT GOING TO PUT IT WE'RE  GOING TO LOVE THE INDIVIDUAL  TO THEMSELVES THAT'S ALL  BRIGHT ARTISTS PUT THEIR ART  ON THERE AND THEN THEY'RE  GOING TO PUT IT IN BUT THEY DO  SAY THERE OUGHT TO COME  WITH THAT.  >> BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT  TO WITH ANYTHING AT NEED TO DO  IS.  >> 3 SITES RIGHT. OKAY, AND  IT'S AREA SO IT'S NOT GOING TO  TAKE OKAY AND THAT'S A HOLLOW  ONE OF THOSE HOLLOW  YESTERDAY'S IT'S EXACTLY WHAT  THEY USE OKAY BUT MANY CAN  OBVIOUSLY PUT AN ACTUAL WOODEN  POLE THAT'S WHAT THIS AND THEN  IS ACTUALLY HURTING THEM ENDED  BECAUSE THERE'S A METAL.  >> HOST HERE AND IT'S SITTING  IN A MINIMALIST SOMEBODY  WISHES TO PUT THAT IN THE  GROUND AND PUT IT ON THAT THEY  CAN TAKE PUT IT OUT AGAIN.  >> OKAY. I'M HOPING THAT THIS  GETS TO THE POINT WHERE YOU  HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WANT  TO DO AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO  BE A PROBLEM IS HOW DO YOU.  EYE. BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE  YOUR THE AIRPORT. YES, RIGHT  YES, ALL RIGHT.  >> I ASK MY QUESTION IS I'M  CONFUSED JOHN YOUR QUESTION I  ANSWER.  >> SO THE PROPERTY OWNER. WILL  DECORATE THEIR OWN POLLS,  CORRECT OKAY, BUT THAT THAT.  >> AND YET JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP  TO THAT I'M GOING OFFER ANY  SUGGESTIONS LIKE WHAT ARE THE  BEST MATERIALS TO USE SO SNOW  BEING KNOW SEEMS LIKE IT  SHOULD BE. PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW,  BUT YOU KNOW WE DON'T KNOW  YOU'RE WHAT THEY MARIN WASHES  OFF WITH THE FIRST RAIN OR  SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU'RE  GOING TO YES, THAT'S THE  BOOKLETS THAT'S WHAT THE BOOK  THAT WILL SUGGESTIONS ON THE  ATL SOME THINGS FROM A CALLER  ASKED A RIGHT.  >> OKAY.  ♪ COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  ALIGNMENT  ♪ CITY ATTORNEY. THANKS  >> WE HAVE NOT REVIEWED THIS  IN OUR OFFICE OF ONLY SOME OF  THE BACKUP MATERIAL IS YOU  HAVE, BUT THERE ARE A FEW  THOUGHTS THAT I WANTED TO  PROVIDE IN THEIR  CONSIDERATION. SOME WOULD JUST  PULL SOME LEGAL. THE FIRST IS  WITH RESPECT TO THE ART  ADVISORY BOARDS DUTIES AS SET  FORTH IN OUR CITY CODE CHAPTER  4 ARTICLE 3. THE ADVISORY  BOARD HAS A SERIES OF ADVISORY  DUTIES TO ADVISE THE CITY  COMMISSION ON CERTAIN TOPICS  AND THEN THERE'S A BIT OF A  CATCH-ALL BACK TO THEIR  DUTIES. BUT IT'S PACIFIC AS  WELL. IT SAYS THE ART ADVISORY  BOARD SHALL PERFORM OTHER  DUTIES AS DIRECTED BY THE  COMMISSION. RELATED TO  ACQUIRING COMMISSIONING  INSTALLING PLACING MAINTAINING  DESERVING OF A BLOCK. PUBLIC  ART IN PUBLIC PLACES AND  RAISING PUBLIC AWARENESS OF IT  IS POSSIBLE THAT THIS PROJECT  IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE  ART ADVISORY BOARD AS THE  POWERS AND DUTIES CURRENTLY  WRITTEN NOW YOU ALL CAN  AMENDMENTS FOR SURE THROUGH A  CODE AMENDMENT ORDINANCE OF 2  READINGS. BUT THAT'S THAT'S  THE FIRST CONSIDERATION. THE  SECOND IS IF YOU BELIEVE THIS  IS WITHIN THEIR DUTIES. THE  CODE  >> THEN  >> YOU'LL NEED TO BE VERY  CLEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT  ADVISE BOARD TO DO BECAUSE IT  IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE  MURRAY DID. DUTIES, YOU  KNOWING THAT THIS BOARD  TYPICALLY ADVICE IS IF THEY  ARE GOING TO BE MAKING  PURCHASES THOSE ARE GOING TO  HAVE TO BE DONE LEGALLY YOU  THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT  PROCESS. YOU KNOW AND IT IF  THERE. ISSUING DOCUMENT ME I'M  NOT SURE WHERE ALL THIS  PROJECT MIGHT ENCOMPASS THAT  THERE ARE YOU KNOW A LOT OF  PIECES AND EVEN THESE ARE NOT  NOT TRAINED EMPLOYEES CITIES.  VOLUNTEERS. WE WOULD. BUT I DO  NEED TRAINING YOU NEED SOME  KIND OF ACCESS TO THE  APPROPRIATE CITY STATS THAT'S  A CONSIDERATION AS WELL MAKE  EVERYTHING LEGAL ON THOSE  LINES. SPEAKING OF THE  POTENTIAL LEGAL ISSUES THE.  THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET  THESE 2 AND I HAVE I HAVE 3  THE FIRST IS IT'S NOT CLEAR TO  ME WHETHER THESE PEACE POLES  WOULD REMAIN CITY PROPERTY OR  WHETHER WE WOULD BE GIFTING  THEM TO THE PUBLIC PROPERTY,  PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. IT IS  A GIFT AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT  WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE USE  OF PUBLIC FUNDS. MAIN CITY  PROPERTY THEN POTENTIALLY  THERE'S SOME POSSIBLE  LIABILITY WHERE THE CITY IF  THAT BECOMES HAZARD EVEN IT.  WE WEREN'T THE ONES TO INSTALL  IT CERTAINLY CLOSE STORM AND  DAMAGES, SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY  OR HURT SOMEONE WE COULD BE IN  THE AND THEN THE LAWSUIT EVEN  THAT'S NOT A GOOD CLAIM  AGAINST THE SECOND IS PRIVATE  PROPERTY ENTRY. WELL I HEAR  THAT IT'S IT WOULD BE THE  PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS  RESPONSIBILITY TO PLACE THE  MEANS YOU KNOW IF THERE WERE  EVER SOME ISSUE WITH  MAINTENANCE OR REMOVAL, THE  CITY COULD NOT GO THE PROPERTY  WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION OF  4TH AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS SO  THAT'S NOTHING TO SNEEZE CAN  BE DONE, BUT THEY NEED TO BE  THOUGHT ABOUT THE  CONSIDERATION IS THAT THIS IS  AN 8 FOOT TALL SONG. AND I  KNOW WE'VE BEEN A LOT ABOUT  SOMETIMES.  >> AND WE HAVE A CURRENT SIGN  CODE AND WE HAVE PROPOSED ARE  YOU SEEING. THIS IS A SIGN AND  WE CANNOT REGULATE THE CONTENT  OF SIGNS SO ONCE WE GET  SOMEONE A PEACEFUL WHETHER  >> GET THAT TO THEM OR LOAN IT  TO THEM TO PUT ON THEIR  PROPERTY AND THEY DECORATE HOW  ARE THEY WANT WITH IT.  WHATEVER IT MIGHT SAY IT'S  IT'S A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE I  HAVE MESSAGE UNITY AND PEACE.  YOU KNOW WE CAN'T CONTROL  SOMEONE WRITES A MESSAGE THAT  IS NOT BEAUTIFUL OR THAT IS  NOT GOING TO FIND WHERE THAT  IS NOT PEACEFUL AND WE CANNOT  CONTROL THAT CONTENT. THERE  ARE A LITANY OF POTENTIAL  PROBLEMS ALONG THOSE LINES SO  IF YOU ARE ARE VERY INTERESTED  IN I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK  ABOUT WHAT MIGHT NEED TO BE  CONSIDER AND WORKED OUT BEFORE  LAUNCHING THE PROJECT BOTH  JUST TO GO AND A LEGAL  STANDPOINT.  >> THAT THAT WAS A LOT CITY  ARE IN THE CLOUD BUTTERFLIES  REALITY, THEY DON'T 2 POINTS  BECAUSE WE'RE HI THERE HEART  WHEN YOU REFERRING TO PUBLIC  ART. YOU REFERRED TO LIKE  WHAT. THE CITY HAS IN PLACE  FOR PUBLIC I USE AIR QUOTES  FOR THAT ART AND THAT THIS  WOULD NOT ALSO PUBLIC ART ON  THERE. I KNOW OUR I'M SORRY I  INTERRUPTED YOU MAYOR MY  APOLOGIES.  >> IT SAYS REPLACING PUBLIC  ART IN PUBLIC PLACES AND  RAISING PUBLIC AWARENESS OF  COULD THIS BE PUBLIC ART ON  PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT'S A  QUESTION THAT WE HAVE TO  ANALYZE. BUT IS NOT IN A  PUBLIC PLACE. BUT YOU CAN SEE  IT FROM THE ROAD IT. THAT'S  SOME OF THE PUBLIC PLACE.  >> OKAY THAT IT DOESN'T SAY  PUBLIC PROPERTIES THAT.  >> THAT THEY SHOULD PERFORM  OTHER DUTIES RELATED TO ALL OF  THESE THINGS FOR OUR  ENVIRONMENTAL LAW, PUBLIC ART  IN PUBLIC PLACES AND RAISING  PUBLIC AWARENESS SUPPORT  >> PUBLIC PLACES SPECIFICALLY  DEFINED PUBLIC BEING OWNED BY.  >> THE GOVERNMENT. I DON'T  BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A I  DON'T BELIEVE IT IS A DEFINED  TERM IN THE CODE. YOU KNOW,  HOWEVER I WOULD SAY THAT YOU  PROBABLY YOUR GENERAL  UNDERSTANDING OF THE  DEFINITION OF PUBLIC PLACES.  >> IT'S A PLACE THAT IS OWNED  LIKE LITTLE KEPT BUT I HAVE 1,  ONE OF THOSE STIPULATIONS WAS  IS ACCEPTABLE TO THAT PUBLIC  YOU PUT IN YOUR FRONT YARD.  IT'S THAT YOUR. PEOPLE WILL  GET TO IT. THEY SEE IT AND  THEY CAN THAT'S WHAT THEY  CONSIDER THAT PUBLIC.  >> I DON'T KNOW WE WOULD SO  AGAIN WE HAVE A LOOK AT BUT  WHAT I CAN SAY IS I KNOW WE'VE  HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE  WITH OUR FUND AND OF COURSE  THAT'S DIFFERENT REFUND IS  RESTRICTED. BUT THAT RELATES  TO THE PLACEMENT OF THE TREES  IN PUBLIC PLACES NOT MEANT  PUBLIC PROPERTY, I'M NOT SURE  HOW THAT SUPPORTED BY  COMPARISON. BUT WE KNOW WE  HAVE DONE RESEARCH ABOUT  UTILIZING PUBLIC MONEY TO TO  THE STREET ON PRIVATE  PROPERTY.  >> YOU KNOW WHERE IT CAN BE  GENERALLY VIEWED BY THE PUBLIC  BOULEVARD PEOPLE FRIDAY ON  THEY SAY A CONCERNED ABOUT THE  CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITATIONS ON  USE OF PUBLIC MONEY FOR THANK  YOU HIM, YOU KNOW THAT UP.  >> AS THE  >> THANKS THE PARTY IS GOING  TO BE UPSTAIRS IN OUR  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, YEAH,  >> YOU KNOW THIS IS WHY WE  HAVE AN ATTORNEY IS TO TAKE  KNOW AND I AM.  >> I'M GRATEFUL FOR HER AND  HER WISDOM AND HER KNOWLEDGE  BECAUSE YES WE SEE ROSES AND  BUTTERFLIES AND YES WE WANT TO  DO THIS. BUT THIS IS PUBLIC  MONEY. THIS CONTRIBUTED BY  DEVELOPERS INTO THIS FUND TO  SLASH ACCOUNT. AND WE HAVE TO  MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE  LAW BECAUSE THERE THEY'RE NOT  PAYING INTO THIS FUND TO HAVE  ART PEACEFUL PLACED ON PRIVATE  PROPERTY. ESPECIALLY IN THE  BACKYARD. PRIVATE PROPERTY. I  I LISTENING TO MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS I WAS MAKING  NOTES BECAUSE I HEARD THE ART  CENTER MENTIONED. WE HAVE NO  AUTHORITY AS A CITY GOVERNMENT  OVER THE ART CENTER. WHAT THEY  DO. BUT WE'RE USING PUBLIC  FUNDS. FOR PROJECT THAT IS  GOING TO INVOLVE THE ART  CENTER. SO THERE'S A COALMINE  BELIEVE LOVE. DUTIES AND STUFF  LIKE THAT THAT JUST KIND OF  WENT WAIT A MINUTE WAIT A  MINUTE TIME OUT WE'VE GOT TO  MAKE SURE WE CAN DO THIS. AND  I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT IS WHAT  IS THE ROLE OF THE ARTS IN OR  WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE ART  ADVISORY BOARD WHAT IS THE  ROLE OF PUBLIC FUNDS FOR A  PRIVATE ART TO BE DISPLAYED.  PRIVATELY. I LOVE THE BUT  GOVERNMENT IS GOVERNMENT AND.  SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WONDERFUL  IDEAS DON'T MIX WELL WITH  GOVERNMENT, ESPECIALLY ON THE  PRIVATE AND OF THIS WHOLE  PROJECT. AND IT IS A SIGN IN  OUR SIGN CODE SAYS THAT IT CAN  ONLY BE DISPLAYED FOR X AMOUNT  OF TIME BEFORE IT'S  CONSIDERED. NEEDING TO BE  PLACED PERMANENT THAT. I THINK  THAT TIME FRAME IS LIKE A 100  SOMETHING LIKE BUT HERE  HEARING IT FOR YEARS DECADES.  I I AM SHERRI US.  >> IF THERE IS. A WAY THAT THE  ART CENTER CAN TAKE THIS  PROJECT AND RUN WITH IT. AND  POTENTIALLY JUST CHARGE THOSE  THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE. YOU  KNOW A SMALL NOMINAL FEE I  WOULD LOVE TO DONATE SOME  MONEY TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT  AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THIS BE A  CITY PROJECT. CITY BIRTHDAY  LOVE THE IDEA. I AM CONCERNED  WITH THE LEGALITIES OF IT. AND  I I DO APPRECIATE THE ROLE OF  THE CITY ATTORNEY. IT IS A  VITAL TO KEEP US OUT OF  TROUBLE. BUT I'M NOT TOO SURE  REALLY BELIEVE THIS CAN REALLY  WORK AND IF WHAT THAT WORK  AROUND WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW  LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO FIND  THAT WORK AROUND.  >> SOMETIMES THE PRIVATE  SECTOR AND NONPROFITS. RUN  WITH IT YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE  THE SAME. UPS THAT GOVERNMENT  ACTS AND THAT'S WHY YOUR ROLES  JUST AS IMPORTANT AS  GOVERNMENTAL WALLS. I I DON'T  KNOW HOW WE GET AROUND USING  AND THEY ARE VERY LOGISTICAL  HANG-UPS AND WHEN I HEARD THE  ART CENTER INVOLVED LOVE YOU  ALL DEARLY. GOVERNMENT IS  DIFFERENT. AND I DON'T KNOW  HOW WE CAN COMMINGLED PRIVATE  PLACEMENT ARTS CENTER  NONPROFIT AND GOVERNMENT. SO I  DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS IN.  LOVE OUR CITY THANK YOU. I  YES, GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR.  >> FIRST OF ALL I THINK I  DON'T CONSIDER THIS SIGN AT  ALL THIS PIECE ART. SO I'M NOT  A LAWYER, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT.  IT'S GOING LITIGATE THIS. IT'S  PEACE JUST AS FAR AS I'M  CONCERNED AS FAR AS MOST  PEOPLE BE CONCERNED BUT AGAIN  I'M NOT A LAWYER, I'M SURE  THOUGH REGARDLESS SO WHAT  LAWYERS FIND IT ASKED WHAT  ANYBODY COULD SUE ANYBODY IN  THIS WORLD. SO I'M SURE  SOMEBODY WANTED TO BE THAT  KIND OF PERSON THEY COULD GO  AHEAD AND DO IT. AS FAR AS THE  OTHER LEGAL ISSUES ABOUT WHO  DOES I DON'T DISAGREE. THE  PROBLEM IS THE ADVISORY BOARD.  GETS US INTO ILLEGAL.  NIGHTMARE  WITH THIS I WAS AN ADVOCATE  FROM FROM THE GET-GO THAT THIS  AND ARTS CENTER PROJECT AND I  THINK THOSE PETE AND I MIGHT  SUGGEST, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY  THAT IT BE THE BUSINESSES I  BELIEVE THAT THROUGHOUT THIS  CITY. YOU COULD SELL WAY MORE  THAN 65. AND THE COST OF A  PEACE POLE WOULD BE SO NOMINAL  BUSINESSES WOULD JUMP AT THE  OPPORTUNITY TO DO PARTICIPATE  AND THEN IT TAKES IT RIGHT  AWAY FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD.  THAT SOLVES A MULTITUDE OF  PROBLEMS FOR THE CITY CAUSE.  CITY STAFF TO A LOT OF THINGS  WELL ONE THING WOULD BE TO  NAVIGATE THROUGH THIS LEGAL  QUAGMIRE WE WILL BE  CELEBRATING OUR 100TH BIRTHDAY  BY THE AND THIS IS SUCH  INCREDIBLY WONDERFUL IDEA. IT  NO ICE ME TO THINK THAT WE'RE  HAVING THIS DISCUSSION SO I  MIGHT SUGGEST OPEN UP A PIVOT  HERE. THINK IT THROUGH AND  MAYBE ANOTHER WAY TO GET  AROUND THAT AND THEN YOU DON'T  HAVE ISSUE AND AND I WOULD  STAND FOR. WITH THE CITY THAT  THIS IS NOT A SIGN. BUT A  PIECE OF ART AND IF PEOPLE ON  THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTIES  DISPLAY ARE. SO BE IT. OKAY SO  BE IT AS ALWAYS A WAY TO GET  AROUND THE LAW.  >> OUCH I KNEW BUT I SAID  WONDERFUL ASSIST THAT'S TIME  OVER THE WORLD PUBLIC SHOULD  GET BOGGED DOWN IN THIS  CHAMBERS, OKAY AND WHAT IT  DOES IS IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO  PEOPLE WHO WANT WE'LL COME UP  WITH WONDERFULLY CREATIVE  IDEAS WANT TO DO WONDERFUL  THINGS TO SAY.  ♪ EVERY TIME I HAVE TO DEAL WITH  THE CITY GOVERNMENT LIKE ALL I  DO IS GET OBSTACLES AND  OBSTRUCTION SO LET'S FIND A  WAY IF IT REQUIRES TAKEN AWAY  FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD AND 2  IN ANOTHER WAY SO BE IT BUT  THIS SHOULD GET DONE. OKAY,  THIS SHOULD GET DONE. AND  GREAT GREAT IDEA AND IT WILL  BE WONDERFUL  ♪ ADDITION TO OUR IT'S  >> OKAY COMMISSIONER, YEAH,  YOU KNOW WE WE COULD DISCUSS  AND DEBATE THIS FOR 2 MORE  HOURS AND WILL BE NO FURTHER  AHEAD THAN WE ARE IN THIS  MOMENT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO  SUGGEST A MOTION THAT LIKE TO  FLOAT SOMETHING CAN I IT  SOMETHING BEFORE THE YEAH I'D  LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING  CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT MOTION  IS, BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT  WHILE.  >> THIS PARTICULAR PIECE POLL  PROJECTS SEEMS TO HAVE KIND OF  HIT A LITTLE BIT OF A  ROADBLOCK FOR THE GOVERNMENT  AND CITY AND THE ADVISORY  BOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF  MAYBE THERE'S AN APPETITE AND  AGAIN, I'M I DON'T KNOW WHAT  YOUR MOTION IS I WISH WE  DIDN'T TELL ME A CHANCE  >> I DON'T WANT THIS TO JUST  DIE BECAUSE I REALLY THINK  THAT MAYBE THERE IS  >> A WAY TO SEE IN THIS A  DIFFERENT WAY USING PUBLIC ART  USING SOMETHING THAT IS PLACED  IN PUBLIC PROPERTY AND USING  SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE BY  ARTIST. AND CITY PROPERTY,  SOMEWHERE. IN CONJUNCTION WITH  WHAT MAY BE THE ART CENTER  MADE THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO  JUST SAY LET'S NOT KILL BUT  SEE IF WE CAN SCAN THE CAPITAL  FOR MAY BE THE EYE.  >> NOT FILLING THE HOLE THINK  THAT MAYBE JUST APPROACHING  DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY  MISSION LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION  THAT WE INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER  TO WORK WITH STAFF AND THE  ADVISORY BOARD TO EVALUATE THE  FEASIBILITY OF CITY.  SPONSORING THIS PROGRAM AND TO  RECOMMEND AN OPTION OUR  OPTIONS. OR HOW WE MIGHT DO  AT. SO THAT WE MINIMIZE LEGAL  RISK TO THE CITY.  >> OK SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON  THE FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER  LANGDON TO DIRECT THE CITY  MANAGER TO. EVALUATE THE  VISIBILITY OF THIS BEING A  CITY SPONSORED. PROGRAM AND  ALSO OTHER OPTIONS TO HAVE  THIS. MOVE FORWARD IT THAT  MUCH, BUT YOU GOT SO THAT'S  THE MOTION DO I HAVE A SECOND  SECOND FOR DISCUSSION, VICE  MAYOR SOAPS THAT FIT FOR  DISCUSSION TAKING AWAY. VICE  >> KNOWING FAST GOVERNMENT YOU  KNOW. WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT  TODAY JUNE IT NOT THAT KICKING  OFF OUR CELEBRATION LIKE IT'S  NOT EVEN CONCEIVABLE THAT  STAFF GOOD. COME UP WITH SOME  SORT OF RECOMMENDATION IN THAT  TIME FRAME. SO THAT YOU KNOW  IT WOULD LEAVE. THIS PROJECT  THE FLEXIBILITY IF IT HAD TO  PIVOT OUT CITY SAYS WE JUST  CAN'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE  THIS WORK LEGALLY OBSTACLES  ARE JUST TOO GREAT THERE NEEDS  TO BE THE ABILITY FOR YOU KNOW  THIS TO TO BE ADOPTED BY SOME  ORGANIZATION OR ORGANIZATIONS  THAT CAN RUN WITH IT SO I MEAN  IS YOU KNOW I I HEAR WHAT  COMMISSIONER LANGDON SAYING  I'M NOT POST AND IN YOU KNOW  PHILOSOPHICALLY BUT IS IT  PRACTICAL OR REALITY THAT  STEPPED IN TO STAFF AND LEGAL  COULD DO THIS WITH EVERYTHING  ELSE THAT'S ON YOUR PLATES.  >> WAS THE MOST BE FROM OUR  SIDE OUR SIDE. NO IS NOT A  GOOD TIME. WHAT CITY MANAGERS  STAFF TO SUCH A TEST.  >> AND WEIGH IN ON THEM AND  YES, GO AHEAD. I UNDERSTAND  THE INTENT OF THE MOTION BUT I  DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE ART  ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE ARTS  CENTER. THE. PUTTING THEM IN  LIMBO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH  THIS PROJECT WHILE WE WAIT TO  FIND OUT IF THE GOVERNMENT HAS  ANY OTHER OPTIONS OR HOW WE  COULD SPONSOR THIS TO ME  THAT'S PUTTING YOU GUYS ON  HOLD WITH THIS PROJECT AND I  WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT  THAT MOTION BECAUSE IT'S.  >> GOVERNMENT IS VERY SLOWLY  IF ANYBODY HASN'T NOTICED THAT  AND AND THIS IS. DESIGN  SOMETIMES END TO KEEP US OUT  OF THE HOT WATER. SO I I CAN'T  SUPPORT THIS MOTION. BECAUSE I  DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP ANY  IDEAS THAT THE ART CENTER MAY  HAVE JUST FINE WE'RE GOING TO  TAKE THIS OVER MOVE FORWARD  BECAUSE IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE  THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU  YOU MAY WANT TO DO HOW I DON'T  KNOW I WON'T SPEAK FOR GUYS.  BUT FOR THOSE REASONS I CAN'T  SUPPORT THIS. ALL RIGHT SO WE  DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE  COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> A COUPLE I HEAR A CITY  MANAGER.  >> IF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.  >> COMES UP WITH AN  IMPLEMENTATION OPTION THAT  DOESN'T INVOLVE THE CITY. LOVE  YOU MOVE FORWARD AND DO  >> ONE OTHER POTENTIAL IS TO  DECOUPLE IT FROM THE BIRTHDAY.  SO IF WE WANT TO THIS PROGRAM  TO BE MORE OF AN ONGOING AND  CONTINUING PROGRAM AND  DECOUPLE IT FROM THE BIRTHDAY  AND LET'S FIGURE OUT A MORE  LONG-TERM PLAN. SO WE COULD  KEEP STAFF I WOULD HAVE BENT.  I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MODIFY THE  MOTION TO ENCOURAGE THE  ADVISORY BOARD TO TO BRING OUR  COMMENTS BACK. AND HAVE YOU  GUYS KNEW TO LET THROUGH AND  FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WANT TO  PROCEED. AND IF YOU DO WANT  MORE ONGOING CITY INVOLVED IN  THAT. AND PERHAPS BRING IT  BACK. YOU KNOW DECOUPLE FROM  THE BIRTHDAY I I DO LIKE THE  CONNECTION THERE, BUT YOU KNOW  I WOULD LEAVE IT IN YOUR HANDS  THEN AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO  REPHRASE THE MOTION IF IF YOU  GUYS ARE AGREEABLE TO THAT  TYPE OF APPROACH.  >> BUT WE VOTE ON THE MOTION  AND THEN MAKE A NEW MOTION.  >> WELL WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING  TO HAPPEN NO SUPPORT FROM THE  MOTION SO I DON'T I GET  FLORIDA I WITHDRAW THE MOTION  IS TO BE VOTING ON AMENDMENT.  >> OKAY BUT LET'S JUST THANK  YOU CITY CLERK. OKAY AND THAT  FAILS FORT.  >> 2, 0, VOTED AGAINST MY OWN  SO LET ME TRY I MOVE THAT THE  ART ADVISORY BOARD. TAKE OUR  COMMENTS UNDER ADVISEMENT. AND  FIGURE OUT A PATH FORWARD AND  COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION.  IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO  HAVE CITY SPONSORED PROGRAM. I  WON'T ADD INTO THE SECOND  MOTION DECOUPLING THAT WILL BE  UP TO YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE  A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER  LYNETTE AND SECONDED BY  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL LET'S  TAKE A THAT BACK.  >> BACK TO OUR ADVISORY BOARD  TO REVIEW COMMISSION COMMENTS  AND THE FIND A PATH FORWARD TO  BRING BACK TO COMMISSION  DECIDED TO HAVE CITY-SPONSORED  PROGRAM OF SOUNDS GOOD AND I  SPEAK YES, GO  >> I WOULD HIGHLY IX SUGGEST.  THAT YOU TAKE THIS PROJECT  AWAY FROM CITY THAT YOU  RECOMMEND SOMEBODY ELSE TO IT.  THE ARTS CENTER OTHER  ORGANIZATIONS. THIS WAY.  >> BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S  THE ROLE THAT ADVISORY BOARD  BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW IN  MY $0.2 THAT THIS IS ONE OF  THE REASONS WHY MY OWN  EXPERIENCE BY ADVISER, WE HAVE  PROBLEMS GETTING PEOPLE TO BE  AN ADVISORY BOARDS THAT THEY  ARE LIMITED TO WHAT THEY CAN  ACTUALLY IT WHEN WE GET  INVOLVED WITH CITY GOVERNMENT.  YOU KNOW THE CITY OF VENICE  AND HAS HAD PAY AND MERMAIDS  THAT TO THE NORTH KOREANS  PROFESSIONAL, BUT I DON'T KNOW  HOW THEY MANAGED TO DO THAT,  BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS  THROUGH THEIR ADVISORY BOARD  ALL RIGHT SO. IT'S IT'S  DISAPPOINTING BUT I DO HOW  MUCH MORE HAS TO COME INTO THE  PICTURE ONE WEEK. DO SOMETHING  LIKE THIS. AND PROBABLY WOULD  BE BETTER SUITED OR. A PRIVATE  ENTITY. TAKE IT UP SO THERE WE  GO WE HAVE THE MOTION. ON WE  OKAY LAST NIGHT GOT IT. BACK  AHEAD. WANT TO SPEAK, THANK  YOU MAYOR, YEAH.  >> SO PART OF THE DISCUSSION  INCLUDED. THAT POSSIBLY  THERE'S A WAY TO DO MAYBE ONE  POLL ON CITY PROPERTY. TO TO  DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN A  SINGULAR SENSE NOT AS A 65 OR  WHATEVER AMOUNT OF OF NUMBERS  BUT TO HAVE IT A WORK OF ART.  PLACED ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. AND  THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS  GOING TO BE FOR THE MAYOR MADE  PROMOTIONS.  >> SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS COME  BACK WITH SOMETHING IF YOU'RE  ABLE TO IF NOT I WISH THE  PROJECT WELL AND LET ME KNOW  WHERE I CAN MAKE A DONATION TO  THE PROJECT IF YOU DECIDE TO  MOVE IT FORWARD.  >> IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY  OUTSIDE OF THE ART ADVISORY  BOARD AND OUTSIDE OF THE  CITIES THANK YOU THANK YOU.  ALL RIGHT WE GOOD.  >> A LOOK AT THE VOTE LET THEM  FIGURE IT OUT OK THANK YOU  THANK YOU.  >> ALL RIGHT AND THAT PASSES 4  TO 0. HOW ARE WE DOING MY. IN  THE SECOND ONE OKAY. MOST  THERE GUYS ALL RIGHT THIS IS A  REQUEST FOR HOST A RIBBON  CUTTING EVENT TO COMMEMORATE  THE HARVEY ARTWORK INSTALLED  ON FIRST FLOOR OF CITY HALL IN  STATEMENT THAT THIS IS A  READY. IS TAKEN CARE OF WE'RE  GOING GO THROUGH THAT I MEAN  PAST THAT CORRECT. YES, OKAY.  MOVING ON PARKS AND REC  ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDATION  TO PURSUE ADDING 2 PROPERTIES  ON PORTOBELLO AVENUE TO  SARASOTA COUNTY PROPERTY  ACQUISITION WAS THINKING.  ♪ >> I'M MARNI AFTERNOON.  >> ASSISTANT PRESSURE EOC  DIRECTOR  ♪ >> TRUST AND PARKS AND  ADVISORY BOARD LIAISON.  >> THE 2 PARCELLS HAVE SEEN IN  YOUR PACKAGE HAVE BEEN  RECOMMENDED BY THE BOARD TO  ADD TO THE LAND ACQUISITION  DOMINATE FROM THE FOR  ACQUISITION MOVING FORWARD TO  PROVIDE ACCESS FROM THE  ♪ BACK SIDE.  >> OF KIRK PARK. IS THAT VICE  MAYOR. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION  OVER TIME ABOUT. REVISITING A.  >> OVERALL.  >> LIKE  I JUST QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT  IT YOU KNOW. AND 2 PROPERTIES  AT THIS TIME IT'S APPROPRIATE  KERR PARK. IT'S NOT WHAT I  WOULD CALL THE MOST ROBUST  PARK PERSONAL STANDPOINT. I  DON'T KNOW. WHAT VALUE THERE  WOULD BE OTHER THAN PACK  ACCESSED THROUGH BUT YOU KNOW  IT SEEMS TO ME. WE'RE MAYBE  PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE  ON THIS I DON'T I DON'T SEE  WHY. YOU KNOW WE NEED TO TAKE  A LOOK AT ALL OUR PARKS AND  REC AREAS. WHICH ONES ARE ARE  WORTH KEEPING WHICH ARE WORTH  REDEPLOYING ASSETS TO OTHER  AREAS FOR CITY. WE NEED TO  SHIFT EAST AS MUCH AS WE CAN  THERE'S JUST SUCH A HUGE  PROJECT BEFORE US THAT I JUST  QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT. THIS  MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE AT  THIS TIME LIKE I I DON'T  UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF HAVING  ADDITIONAL. IN GROCERY CREST  TO THE PARK BUT.  >> OKAY BY SOME COMMISSIONER  NOW.  >> YEAH, I'M I'M NOT IN FAVOR  OF PURCHASING THESE 2 THERE IS  FULL ACCESS ALONG TREE ON  THERE THEY USED AS PART OF  PARKING. THIS AREA DOES HAVE  SIDEWALKS FOR SAFE PASSAGE. SO  IF THOSE 2 PROPERTIES DO GET  DEVELOPED WHICH IN THE 35  YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE MY KIDS  WENT TO THAT PARK REGULARLY  FROM LITTLE TINY TOTS UNTIL  TEAMS.  >> IT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED  YET AND IT'S POSSIBLE THEY  COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THE  FUTURE.  >> BUT. I JUST CANNOT STAFF'S  TIME ENERGY AND TAXPAYER  RESOURCES TO PURCHASE THESE 2  PROPERTIES WITHOUT HAVING A  JOINT PURPOSE, YOU KNOW LIKE  MAYBE IF IT WAS ALONG THE  WATERWAY FOR ACCESS OR  SOMETHING LIKE THAT I DON'T  KNOW I JUST CANNOT SUPPORT IT.  BUT I DO APPRECIATE PARKS AND  REC ADVISORY BOARD BRINGING  THIS FORWARD IS AN OPTION. I  JUST JUST TO CLEAN. I DON'T  THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT USE  TEXT  >> THANK COMMISSIONER LANGDON  AT THE RISK OF REDUNDANT. I  AGREE WITH MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONER AND VICE MAYOR  AND I'M. JUST REALLY GETTING  ANXIOUS ABOUT OUR LACK OF  ATTENTION EAST OF TOLEDO BLADE  IN TERMS OF PARKLAND WE  RECENTLY APPROVED THE CREATION  OF THAT THEY'RE THE 29TH PARK  OKAY CHEIKA WEST OF TOLEDO  BLADE. AND I WOULD  RESPECTFULLY REQUEST. OUR  PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD  START THINKING EAST AND FOR  STAFF TO START THINKING EAST  OF TOLEDO BLADE IN TERMS OF  STRATEGICALLY IDENTIFYING  AREAS WHERE WE WOULD WANT ME  PARKS.  >> STAFF IS CURRENTLY  REVIEWING PLAN WE WORKED WITH  JAI ASKED TO CREATE OVERALL  NAPPING YOU AND THAT AND THAT  HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE  PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD IN  CONJUNCTION WITH DEVELOPING A  PLAN. THIS ITEM WAS NOMINATED  BECAUSE IT'S CURRENTLY USED  FOR MANY TIMES FOR MARKING  PEOPLE DO PARK SO THEY THOUGHT  THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE AS  WE HEARD THAT SOME OF THE  OTHER PROPERTIES OUT RON ARE  NOT OUR NOMINATION LIST WERE  BEING PURCHASED AND THEY WOULD  BE CONVEYED TO US THROUGH THE  COUNTY. SO WOULDN'T BE HOUR. A  LOT OF MONEY WE'RE  RECOMMENDING THIS IS THE  COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY THAT  USED. SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE  OF THESE ONES RIGHT AWAY. I'LL  TAKE YOUR CONCERNS GRANT.  THANK  >> YES ALONG A LOT OF WHAT  THAT WAS MY QUESTION DO THIS  IS THE ENVIRONMENTALLY  SENSITIVE LAND. PROPERTY  ACQUISITIONS WHAT YOU'RE  TALKING ABOUT THE SEARCH FOR  THE COUNTY PROPERTY  ACQUISITION LESS KNOWN.  >> IT'S A DIFFERENT IS THE  NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PARKWAY  AGAIN THAT'S WHAT DEPARTMENT  ACQUISITION.  >> IS THAT THE PARKLAND THEN  AS LOT PROGRAM IS PART OF THE  PARKLAND OR ANOTHER THE WHOLE  OTHER PROGRAM, IS THAT YOU'RE  TALKING ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT  BECAUSE MY QUESTION WAS WHAT  WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THIS CITY  THAT WAS PURCHASED BY  ANYTHING. THE COUNTY.  >> I KNOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS  OF THEM CAN BEING A PROPERTY  ON MATEO.  >> AND IT'S RIGHT THAT WHAT  THAT I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST  ONE THINK THAT'S THE FIRST ONE  WE'VE AND ALL THESE YEARS THAT  WITHIN THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN  IN PLACE. I JUST HAD TO PUT  THAT DIG IN THERE. I'M SORRY  AND GOT TO START SOMEWHERE AND  I FEEL THAT THEY STARTED  SOMEWHERE AND NOW AT BEEN IN  PLACE 20 BY YEARS THAT LADIES  AND WE'RE GETTING OUR FIRST  ONE SO VERY VERY GOOD. YEAH,  I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS I  KNOW IT'S BEEN USED PARKING I  I KNOW THAT MYSELF AS I  PLANTED TREES THAT'S IT  EXACTLY HOW WE GOT IN THERE  SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY BUT I  ASSUMED IT WAS PART OF THE  PARK AND.  >> BUT IF IT JUST WOULD BE AS  FOR PARKING.  >> AGAIN I DON'T SEE THE VALUE  BUYING LAND FOR A PARK TO  PRESERVE SOMETHING BUT THEN  YOU'RE GOING TO CONVERT IT  INTO.  >> SO.  >> AND UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO  VICE OBSERVATION THERE THAT  THAT IS A PARK THAT COULD  STILL USE A LOT MORE TREES  MAKE IT LOOK MORE WELL AS FAR  AS THAT NATIVE ENVIRONMENT I I  JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THIS EITHER  SO THAT'S IT FOR ME.  >> HAVE TO BRING YOUR  INFORMATION BACK WORK ALL  RIGHT.  >> SO I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR  IT TO HAVE A MOTION ON THIS OR  NO. YES. MOMS ARE YOU DID NOT  I DO NOT. OKAY BECAUSE WE'RE  NOT GOING TO DIRECT ANYTHING  THAT RIGHT IS THAT LINE. OKAY.  I DON'T.  >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC  COMMENT ON THIS YEAH, IT  DOESN'T SAY ALL RIGHT. YOU  KNOW WE GOOD WITH THOSE ITEMS  THAT OKAY SO WE'RE GOING TO  MOVE TO ITEM EVERYBODY UP IF  YOU'RE READY TO WRITE ONE.  >> THIS IS THE ITEM B 24 DASH  0, 5, 9, 6,  >> CITY MANAGER THIS IS YOUR  ITEM.  >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, THIS  IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  ACTION REGARDING A POSSIBLE  TRIP FROM THE AMOUNT WITHOUT  KNOWLEDGE MISSION CONTINUES TO  BE TO THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE  LAST SPECIALLY ASSISTANCE  PROGRAM TO SUPPORT ASSISTANT  REQUEST FISCAL YEAR 2024.  BASED THE CHART THAT WE SHOW  GUARDING THE AMOUNT THAT HAVE  ALREADY BEEN SPENT. WE ARE  REQUESTING THIS AMOUNT DEPOSIT  IT TO ALLOW FOR FUTURE OF  FISCAL YEAR. UNDER THE SAME  PROGRAM. WE HAVE ANSWER ANY  QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.  >> OKAY.  >> LOOKING FOR ANY QUESTIONS  ON THIS. SAYING TO ME YET.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL GO  AHEAD AND I REALLY DON'T HAVE  QUESTION IT'S MORE OF A  COMMENT BASED ON THE PAST 3  YEARS OF HISTORY AND STUFF  THERE'S VERY FEW. EVENTS THAT  TAKE THAT WE HAVE. CONTRIBUTED  WITH THE SPECIAL EVENT  ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. THERE'S  LIKE ONE IN THE SUMMER TIME  AND THEN MAYBE ONE IN  SEPTEMBER. I DON'T THINK  $4,000 IS NECESSARY. I DON'T  KNOW STAFF HAS HAD ANY OTHER  APPLICATIONS FOR THE SPECIAL  OUTSIDE OF THE 2 POSSIBLY 3.  BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER  30TH, I MEAN SUMMERTIME MOST  DEFENSE PRETTY MUCH DON'T  HAPPEN BECAUSE BLASTED HOT IN  THE WEATHER IS SO  UNPREDICTABLE. IF WHY $4,000.  >> WAS BASED STAFF. PREVIOUS  ASSISTANCE THAT WERE GRANTED  AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN  CONTACTED ABOUT FOR THIS YEAR.  BUT IT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE,  JUST KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE  THE FULL AMOUNT TO AWARD ITS  TIME. THE ATTENDANCE. SO IF  THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR SAY UP TO  A $1000. WE DON'T HAVE THAT WE  CAN BRING IT FORWARD. EVEN IF  THEY'RE NOT NEWS THAT POLL  1000. BASED ON THE GUIDELINES  WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BRING  FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.  >> AND THE PEOPLE FOR TREES  AND THE KIWANIS PET EXPO. THAT  WAS A TOTAL OF 1500 BUT BASED  ON WHAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED IT.  IT'S ONLY LIKE A $1000 RIGHT  THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL MONEY  THAT'S IN THE ACCOUNTING SO  >> SO I JUST DON'T KNOW 4,000  IS NECESSARY BUT YOU KNOW  THAT'S TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION  ALL THERE'S NOT VERY MANY  EVENTS THAT HAPPENED IN  SUMMERTIME.  >> OKAY, I JUST HAD A QUESTION  BECAUSE THIS FROM THE  COMMISSION  >> THAT'S.  >> THAT'S THIS COMMISSION  YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I DON'T  KNOW WHAT WHAT I SPEND THAT  HAVE FUN BUT. IF IT'S THERE  IT'S THERE, I'M ASSUMING IT IS  OTHERWISE HE WOULDN'T THEY  PUTTING THIS DOWN TO TRANSFER  MONEY IF IT WASN'T MONEY  AVAILABLE. I FOR IT. SO I'M  I'M GOOD WITH DON'T KNOW WHATS  GOING WE STILL ARE WE'RE ONLY  REMIND ME OF THE MONTH, IT'S  ONLY MAY OKAY SO IF SOMEBODY  COMES FORWARD AND WANT TO PUT  ON SOME GREAT EVENT FOR THE  CITY OR THING I'D LOVE TO HAVE  BE ABLE TO GIVE ASSISTANCE  FROM OUR. PROGRAM BECAUSE THAT  WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF. NOT TO  BEGIN WITH. SO VICE MAYOR.  OBVIOUSLY STEPS TAKEN A LOOK  AT HISTORICAL. A  RECOMMENDATION THAT FOR  REASONABLE NUMBER JUST TO  ASSURE WE HAVE FUNDS IF THE  REQUESTS COME IN. I SEE NO  REASON. THE SECOND GUESS  STAFF'S EXPERTISE IN THIS  AREA. IF THEY HAD THOUGHT WHO  WOULD HAVE BEEN SUFFICIENT  THEY WOULD ASK FOR 2 FOR IS  THE NUMBER THAT THEY THINK  IT'S REALISTIC FAR BE IT FROM  US TO SECOND GUESS THAT SINCE  WE HAVE NO INFORMATION  WHATSOEVER TO BASED ON SO I'M  GOOD WITH THE ALL RIGHT. THANK  YOU VICE COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  >> I'M ALSO GOOD WITH 4. THE  LAST THING I WOULD WANT WOULD  BE TO HAVE AN EVENT COME IN  AND HAVE TO HAVE THIS  CONVERSATION AGAIN.  >> AND ANOTHER 6 WEEKS. AND IF  THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENS  IS IS A $1000 LEFT OVER  NUGGETS ROLLED INTO THAT RUN  FOR 2025. I'M I'M AT PEACE  WITH THAT SO LET'S MOVE ON AND  A $4,000 ITEM. COMMISSIONER  THAT COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL,  MAKE MOTION. OKAY.  >> WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY  PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT SO  I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.  >> MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE  CITY MANAGER. HOLD ON ONE 2ND  ARE YOU GOING TO NEED A BUDGET  AMENDMENT OR IS THIS JUST A  TRANSFER. JUST DOUBLE  CHECKING.  >> WHAT WAS EMPLOYERS RIGHT SO  IT IS.  >> I RISE A TRANSFER. OKAY, SO  IT IS A TRANSFER IT'S NOT A  BUDGET AMENDMENT. DOES NOT  WANT THANK THAT'S WHAT I JUST  NEEDED THE AS THE CITY MANAGER  TO TRANSFER THE $4,000 FROM  THE COMMISSION'S CONTINGENCY  FUND.  >> TO THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE  OR SPECIAL ASSISTANT SPECIAL  EVENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN  THE AMOUNT OF $4,000 FOR  FISCAL YEAR 2012 PEOPLE.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TO  AUTHORIZE THE TRANSFER AND  AMANDA $4,000 FROM OUR  COMMISSION CONTINGENCY ON TO  THE COMMUNITIES SPECIAL EVENTS  ASSISTANT PROGRAM. WELL TO  SUPPORT THE THESIS REQUEST  THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR OF  2024. I HAVE A SECOND. WHAT  SECOND. TRANSFER THAT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL SAID  WHAT YOU SAID ARE 2 DIFFERENT  I WANT JUST ADOPTING UNITS ARE  WE VOTING ON THIS MOTION AS IT  PRESENTED BY WAGGLE OR.  COMMISSIONER 1000 I'M SORRY  COMMISSIONER DO YOU WANT TO  REPEAT THE MOTION.  >> BUT THE CITY MANAGER TO  TRANSFER THE 4 $4,000 FROM THE  COMMISSION'S CONTINGENCY  COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE OR  SPECIAL EVENT ASSISTANCE  PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.  >> YOU KNOW OKAY WITH THAT  WANT TO SECOND. I SAID OK WE I  WE DO HAVE THE MOTION THAT WAS  READ TWICE NOW AND THEN WE DO  HAVE SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR  STOUT, SO THAT BUT THANKS FOR  CLARIFYING THAT NOTHING ELSE  VOTE.  >> YOU GETTING PACKAGE VICE  MAYOR. I JUST 2 DIFFERENT  MAYOR WRITE IT DIFFERENTLY  THAN WHAT I STRUGGLE IT. AND  THAT PASSES 4 TO AT.  >> SO THAT WAS ITEM B SO WE'RE  MOVING TO ITEM C 24 DASH 0, 6,  1, 0 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  ACTION REGARDING APPROVAL OF  BEING. APRIL FIRST 2024  COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING  CITY CLERK.  >> YES, THESE DRAFT MINUTES  WERE SUBMITTED TO COMMISSION  FOR REVIEW ON APRIL 1020 24.  WE TOOK THE RECOMMENDED  CHANGES IN THE CONSIDERATION  AND THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN  MADE IN OUR TOUCH TO DRAFT  MINUTES IN THE BACK UP.  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU CITY  CLERK, DO WE HAVE SURE. THAT  SCREEN ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT  CHANGES. ALL RIGHT DO WE HAVE  ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE IS  NONE. SO LOOKING FOR A MOTION.  >> THEY GET TO APPROVE APRIL  FIRST 2024 MEETING MINUTES AS  PRESENTED. TO RECOMMEND  CHAMPIONS.  >> ALL RIGHT SO WE DO HAVE A  MOTION TO APPROVE THE 4/1/2024  MEETING.  >> MINUTES AS PRESENTED THE  RECOMMENDED CHANGES MADE BY  VICE MAYOR SO IT'S BEEN  SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL IS NOTHING ELSE. BUT  SPOKE.  >> THAT PASSES 4 TO 0 MOVING  ON TO ITEM D 24 DASH 0. 6, 1,  ONE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE  ACTION REGARDING THE APPROVAL  OF THE FEBRUARY 27TH 2024  COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING  MINUTES. CITY CLERK.  >> THANKS JEFF MINUTES WERE  SUBMITTED TO COMMISSION FOR  REVIEW ON MARCH, 2920 24 THE  RECOMMENDED CHANGES WERE  REVIEWED AND CHANGES ARE IN  THE DRAFT MINUTES THAT ARE  ATTACHED. THANK YOU ANY.  COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS ON  THAT. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.  >> ALL RIGHT SO I'M LOOKING  FOR MOTION MOTION THAT MAKE A  MOTION TO APPROVE. THE  FEBRUARY 27TH 2024 MEETING  MINUTES. AS AMENDED WITH THE  RECOMMENDED CHANGES.  >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION  ON FLOOR BY COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL APPROVE THAT EVERY  2720 24 MEETING. AND IT'S AS  AMENDED WITH THEY. RECOMMENDED  CHANGES AND THAT WAS SECONDED  BY VICE MAYOR STOKES IS  NOTHING ELSE. LET'S VOTE. AND  THAT PASSES 4 0. ALL RIGHT  MOVING ON TO ITEM EAT 24 DASH  0, 7, FOR 6. AND CITY MANAGER  THIS IS YOUR ITEM.  >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR  DESIGNERS DISCUSSION POSSIBLE  ACTION REGARDING POSTING A  JOINT MEETING WITH SARASOTA  COUNTY COMMISSION  REPRESENTATIVE BUCHANAN IS  HOOTERS TO DISCUSS WHAT BRING  IT TO HAD FRESH MEATS. FROM  THE COMMISSION TENNESSEE OR  SPRING SPAWN. ITEM IS OWNED BY  COMMISSIONER IT OUT.  >> COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL TAKEN  AWAY, YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO  BE LABOR AND I THINK IT'S  PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY IN THE  LEGISLATIVE TEXT BUT JUST TO  GIVE A QUICK I THINK THAT  THERE'S A MUTUAL BENEFIT OF  HAVING JOINT MEETING WITH THE  COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND OUR  STATE ELECTED LEADERS IN OUR  DELEGATION.  >> TO SEE IF THERE ARE  RESOURCES AVAILABLE ID IS  AVAILABLE WITH THE VARIOUS  OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO  PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL AND ON  THE ONS OF  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS IT IS A  TOURIST DRAW. THERE'S A  POTENTIAL CONNECTION TO LEGACY  TRAIL. ALL OF THAT BRINGS HUGE  ECONOMIC VALUE WHICH BENEFITS  NOT ONLY THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT BUT THE COUNTY AND THE  STATE. AND THIS DISCUSSION IS  MORE DESIGNED TO BE A THINK  TANK ON HOW THAT PRESERVATION  AND PARK-LIKE SETTING COULD  POT POSSIBLY BE ACCOMPLISHED  USING STATE OR COUNTY  RESOURCES.  >> IF THERE'S ANY AVAILABLE  IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE WON'T  KNOW ANY OF THIS UNTIL WE HAVE  THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION.  >> THEY MAY HAVE SOME REALLY  GREAT IDEAS ON WHAT THE WITH  THE BEST PATH FORWARD IS  BEFORE. WE POTENTIALLY  DEMOLISHING THE I'VE BEEN IN  CONTACT GULF COAST COMMUNITY  FOUNDATION CONSERVATION  FOUNDATION. A SARASOTA COUNTY  FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION. AND  I LOOK AT IT IS A POTENTIAL TO  HAVE OF 14 WHICH IS A PUBLIC  PUBLIC PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP.  THAT WOULD BE A WIN-WIN FOR  EVERYBODY. INVITE ALL OF THE  ELECTED CERTAIN BORN SHE  SERVED THEM WHO CAN PASS UP A  FREE MEAL AND HOPEFULLY SOONER  RATHER THAN LATER. SO THAT'S  IT IN A NUTSHELL. THANK YOU  VERY MUCH FOR HIM TO TEENS.  ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.  >> VICE MAYOR.  >> WELL CERTAINLY SINCE THE P  3 FELL APART. I EVERYTHING'S  ON THE TABLE CERTAINLY WE  WOULDN'T WANT TO LEAVE ANY  STONE UNTURNED, THAT SAID I  BELIEVE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF  HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH VARIOUS  GROUPS SOME INTEREST WHAT I  WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW US  AND AGAIN I HAVE NO REAL  PROBLEM WITH LIKE OPENING UP  TOO LITERALLY ANYBODY AND  EVERYBODY IN ANY ORGANIZATION  ANYWHERE ANY PLACE ANYHOW WANT  TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT  MINERAL SPRINGS. IS ONE OF OUR  FAVORITE SUBJECTS BUT I WOULD  BE CURIOUS TO KNOW. WHETHER OR  NOT. THE COUNTY COMMISSION.  OTHER COMMISSIONER RANGE FOR  RUNNING FOR OFFICES CAMPAIGN  AND TIME. OR. SENATOR GRUTERS  OR REPRESENTATIVE BUCHANAN  HAVE HAVE SHOWN ANY SPECIFIC  INCLINATION TO PARTICIPATE. I  WOULD HATE TO. WORLD THEM  TOWARDS THIS TYPE GET TOGETHER  ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THERE  WAS NO APPETITE I KNOW THAT IN  THE PAST I'VE TALKED TO A  NUMBER OF COUNTY  COMMISSIONERS, WHAT NO  INTEREST. THAT'S JUST ME  PERSONALLY I WOULD THINK WE  MIGHT WANT TO. HAVE CITY  MANAGER PERHAPS REACH OUT TO  COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ASKING  THE QUESTION ONCE AGAIN I YOU  KNOW, I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT  CITY MANAGER ESTE SAY ON ALL  THIS AND AND WHAT IT'S COMING  UP BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS  AND AGENDA ITEM AT THE END OF  THIS MONTH TO DISCUSS.  >> WHAT'S GONE ON AND COOL  CITY MANAGER AND TEND TO SO.  >> I'M KIND OF NOT OPPOSED TO  THIS IN THEORY I JUST DON'T  WANT TO TAKE EVERYBODY OUT FOR  EXERCISE NOR DO I WANT TO  CREATE ANY UNREALISTIC  EXPECTATIONS FOR THE PUBLIC  OUT THERE YOU KNOW IF THERE  ARE SOME YOU KNOW STONE THAT  NEEDS TO BE OVERTURNED AND  OPPORTUNITY THAT MAYBE THEY'RE  A LITTLE I JUST WANT TO MAKE  SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRUST.  GOING TO GET TOGETHER FOR A BY  OUR MINERAL SPRINGS MOMENT  HERE TO SAY THAT WE DID IT AND  YOU KNOW I MEAN THERE A LOT OF  PEOPLE HERE INVOLVED TOO. YOU  KNOW. TIME IS PRECIOUS SO WITH  THAT CITY MANAGER TO KIND OF  GIVE US SOME INSIGHT ON LIKE.  >> WHAT'S COMING TOWARDS THE  END OF MONTH IF I IF I COULD  REAL QUICK BECAUSE THIS WAS MY  AGENDA ITEM I I AND THAT  ABSOLUTELY I DON'T WANT TO  STEAL ANYTHING FROM WHAT CITY  MANAGER MAY WANT TO BUT I  WOULD NEVER HAVE PUT THIS ON  THE AGENDA. IF I HAD NOT  ALREADY SPOKE WITH THE COUNTY  COMMISSIONERS INDIVIDUALLY OR  OUR STATE ELECTED THEY ALL  SAID THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA AND  THAT THERE IS AN APPETITE TO  PARTICIPATE IN SOMETHING LIKE  THIS.  >> SO YOU'VE ACTUALLY SPOKE  SENATOR REID I HAVE COUNTED  AND THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO  PARTICIPATE I HAVE I WOULD NOT  SAY THAT IF I DIDN'T  WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S  GOOD TO KNOW. I WOULD NEVER  PUT THIS WITHOUT.  >> KIND OF GETTING A POLSON  KIND OF GETTING AN IDEA OF. DO  THEY HAVE AN APPETITE.  >> AND THEY ALL HAD AN  APPETITE.  >> ONE OR 2 COUNTY  COMMISSIONER SAID HEY WHATEVER  THE WILL OF THE BOARD IS WE  CANNOT ASK FOR THIS JOINT  MEETING WITHOUT STARTING HERE  WITH THIS BOARD TO SEE IF THIS  BOARD HAD THE APPETITE AND  THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY  GO ON TO THE COUNTY  COMMISSIONERS BOARD.  >> TO SEE.  >> AND FOR THEM TO THAT AND  FOR THEM TO HAVE THE SAME KIND  OF CONVERSATION. SENATOR NO  RIVERS AND BUCHANAN BOTH SAID  YEAH THEY HAD THEY HAD SOME  OTHER IDEAS THAT THEY WOULD  LIKE TO SHARE BUT IT WOULDN'T  BE APPROPRIATE TO SHARE WITH  JUST ME WITH OUT HAVING  EVERYBODY SITTING IN THE SAME  ROOM.  >> GLAD TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE  YOU COUNTY COMMISSIONERS I  SPOKE TO SHOWED NO INTEREST  BUT I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE  ADVISABLE FOR FOR CITY  MANAGER, I MEAN I SUGGEST THAT  WE MAKE THAT FORMAL AND AGAIN  JUST TO SO FOR THE PUBLIC THAT  MIGHT BE LISTENING. I DON'T  THINK THERE'S ANY  CONTEMPLATION THAT BUILDINGS  ARE GOING TO BE WITH THE END  OF THE YEAR ANYWAY, AND THERE  ARE SOME INTERESTING DYNAMICS  COMING WHICH IS ONE THE END OF  THIS MONTH'S MEETING PLUS THE  REFERENDUM. WHICH. THE CITY'S  ABILITY TO BORROW WOULD OPEN  UP A MULTITUDE OPTIONS AND  OPPORTUNITIES, BUT CITY  MANAGER PLEASE I MEAN.  >> IT YES THINK IT'S A  NIGHTMARE. SO WE HAVE MET WITH  OF PARTIES SINCE MARCH 5TH  TAPE DIRECTION FROM THE  COMMISSION INCLUDING JOHN BACK  TO LOCAL STATION THE TEEN FROM  SARASOTA ALLIANCE FOR STROKE  OF CONSERVATION PUT TOGETHER A  VERY WELL PLANNED SIT BEFORE  YOU TODAY THAT ON THIS DAY IS  AS WELL AS DEPARTMENT OF  ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION STATE  THEY WERE ALSO WHERE THE PART  2 IF WE WOULD INPUT OR ON THIS  THAT SUBJECT IS ORGANIZING  COMMUNITY. ADVOCATES FOR  DISCUSSION AS WELL. WE HAVE  APPEARING BRING TO THE BOARD  FOR YOUR DRESS ON MAY 28  SUMMARIZE ARE A PERSON P BACK  FROM THOSE PARTIES MET WITH AS  WELL AS PROVIDE THE RESULTS OF  A GEOTECHNICAL ALL THESE WILL  BE IMPORTANT. AS YOU MOVE  FORWARD OR MAKE DECISION ON  HOW YOU WOULD MOVE FORWARD  WITH THE REQUEST OF THE  COUNTY. WE'RE ALSO STILL  WAITING ON THE. BECAUSE SALTED  TO BRING BACK THE RESULTS OF  THE DEMOLITION OR IN WARD 2 OR  3 OF BUILDING IF YOU DECIDE TO  BE DONE. YOU ALSO MAY RECALL  COUNTY ASKED EARLIER THIS YEAR  IF WE WANT TO DIMINISH MEETING  WITH THE COMMISSION AND WE  SAID YES. WAS THAT MEETING IS  SCHEDULED I THINK THIS WOULD  BE A TOPIC ON THAT MEETING AND  THEN YOU WOULD BE FREE TO DONE  BY THE OTHER. SENATORS  REPRESENTATIVE HAS PIT. I WAS  A LITTLE BIT TO THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR AND WORKED ON  THAT PARTICULAR MEETING BUT IF  IT IS ABOARD A BOARD MEETING  THAT YOU WOULD LIKE YOU KNOW  OUR OFFICE COULD WORK WITH  THEIR PUTS OFFICE TO SEE IT,  THERE'S A DIFFERENT MEETING  THAT COULD BE SCHEDULED IN THE  TIME FRAME THAT YOU WANT. TIME  FRAME FOR THE MEETING THAT  WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ALREADY  REQUESTED MEETING IS LATE THIS  FALL. THAT YOU BE ASKING BOARD  MEETING FOR STAYING TOPIC FOR  THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND  INVITING THEM NOW YEARS THAT'S  A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND  WHAT WE'RE ON MY END BUT THE  COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. MY  RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR  YOU TO HEAR ITEMS OF  DISCUSSION THAT YOU'RE GOING  TO GET ON MAY 28 BEFORE YOU  MAKE YOUR DECISION. BUT  QUESTION IN PROPOSAL WAS NOT  BROUGHT STAFF'S ATTENTION  BEFORE YOUR ATTENTION SO WE  HAVE THE ANSWER. OKAY, WE  CAN'T.  >> ALL COMMISSIONER LANGDON.  YEAH FEW THINGS ARE ARE  BUZZING IN MY HEAD, ONE IS.  FOR I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD  LEAVE ANY STONE UNTURNED WHEN  IT COMES TO THE POSSIBLE.  >> RESTORATION OF THOSE  BUILDINGS. THEY'RE BUSINESS  SHOULD. BUT I'VE ALWAYS HELD A  FUND THIS FOR THE CYCLE AROUND  LAW OF ALL OF IT I I'VE ALWAYS  HAD SOFT SPOT IN MY HEART FOR  THE PSYCHODRAMA AND IF THERE  IS A POSSIBILITY OF OUTSIDE  MONEYS TO REACH SLASH. REPLACE  THOSE BUILDINGS I'M ALL FOR.  SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, I  MEAN WE DO HAVE ON THE BOOKS  WE VOTED TO DEMOLISH THOSE  BUILDINGS SO I THINK MAY 28  IT'S IT'S REALLY THE BEST TIME  FOR US TO HAVE THIS  CONVERSATION. I WANT A MUCH  FULLER BRIEFING OF WHAT STAFF  HAS UP UNTIL THE STATE. THAT  INFORMATION IS NOT ON THIS  AGENDA. SO I'D RATHER HAVE  THAT CONVERSATION ON MAY AND  IT'S THIS BODY NEEDS TO  RECONSIDER ITS EARLIER ARE BUT  OUT THEN THAT'S THE TIME FOR  US TO DO IT. MY OTHER THOUGHT  IS.  >> IT COULD BE.  >> 2026 BEFORE WE CAN GET ALL  OF THESE PEOPLE IN THE SAME  ROOM AT THE SAME TIME. SO I  MEAN YOU KNOW ME I'M I'M  ALWAYS WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD  THIS TOPIC HAS JUST BEEN  BEATEN TO DEATH. I'M JUST  CONCERNED THAT MOVING FORWARD  THE WAY THIS IS PACKAGED JUST  REALLY I MEAN IT COULD BE A  LONG TIME BEFORE WE CAN GET  ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE SAME  ROOM AT THE SAME TIME SO DO WE  NEED TO SPEAK WITH ALL OF  THEM. YES, SO WE NEED TO SPEAK  WITH THEM ALTOGETHER I DON'T  KNOW. BUT I I CERTAINLY DON'T  WANT TO NOT EXPLORE EVERY  AVENUE AND I THINK THE BEST  TIME TO DO THAT IS MAY 28 FUN  TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I  OK MAJ JUST.  >> ALSO MAYOR IS THAT TO  SEVERAL OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE  HAVE HEARD FROM INCLUDING FOR  YOU FROM THE SERVICE SO THAT  ALLIANCE OF HISTORICAL. TEEN.  I ON THE PASSING OF THE  BORROWING AUTHORITY FOR CITY  THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUESTED  IN NOVEMBER AS WELL. IF YOU  WANT TO USE I THINK YOU MAY  HAVE SAY THIS BEFORE THE USE  OF REVENUE BONDS COULD GO A  AWAY WITH THE PRESERVATION AND  RESTORATION OF THOSE BUILDINGS  WHICH I THINK THAT THE  COMMISSION AS A WHOLE WITH SAY  IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT  THINGS WITH THAT PROPERTY  FUTURE. SO THAT'S JUST ONE  MORE THING THAT IS CONTINGENT  UPON A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME  GET FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS AS  WE SHARE THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR  ABILITY TO BORROW CHANGE  CHARTER IN THE UPCOMING THANK  >> AND PARA FIND THAT  COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL  >> I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S  HESITATION TO MOVE FORWARD  WITH SCHEDULING A MEETING BUT  TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE WHEN IT  COMES TO TRYING TO SCHEDULE  BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS  I'VE WITH THE RED MENTIONED.  THIS IS AN ELECTION YEAR. AND  ONE SEPTEMBER ISH START  THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN FULL  MODE FOR RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN.  THEY SEEM TO HAVE THE APPETITE  TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION  SOONER. PRIOR TO THE ELECTION  TO GET THINGS MOVING PRIOR TO  LEGISLATIVE SESSION HAPPENING  AT THE STATE LEVEL AND ALSO TO  POSSIBLY HAVE THINGS INCLUDED  ON FUTURE BUDGETS THAT THEY'RE  GOING TO BE DISCUSSING IN  THESE COMING MONTHS. SO I JUST  WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THE MIX.  I I UNDERSTAND CITY MANAGER  NOW IS HAVING A DISCUSSION AT  THE END OF THE MONTH, I WAS  UNAWARE OF THAT. BUT ONCE I  GOT FINAL CONVERSATION WITH  ONE OF OUR STATE ELECTED  OFFICIALS AND THAT THEY WERE  AMENABLE TO THIS MEETING THAT  I IMMEDIATELY PUT IT ON THE  AGENDA FOR TODAY TO HAVE THAT  DISCUSSION BECAUSE I KNEW TIME  WAS MORE OF THE ESSENCE AS  OPPOSED TO IT'S A BACK AND  WAIT SO. THANK YOU.  >> ALL RIGHT, THANK I DO KNOW  THAT YES WE'RE GOING TO BE  TALKING ABOUT.  >> PLANS AGAIN ON THE 28TH  THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY  COMING DOWN THE PIKE AND I I  DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM  INVITATION THAT PASSING OUT  THAT. PARENTS HE WOULD COME  BACK I WILL CARRY WHAT. REALLY  YET IT'S ONE THING TO SAY  SOMETHING THAT ANOTHER THING  TO ACTUALLY PUT IT MOTION. AND  JUST FOR PEOPLE OUR RESIDENTS  KNOW THAT I WE CAN'T TALK  ABOUT EACH OTHER, BUT I KNOW  THAT I HAVE REACHED OUT TO  PEOPLE. INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS OF PEOPLE  CONTACTED ME WITH ALL OF THESE  GREAT IDEAS, BUT IT ALWAYS  COMES DOWN TO IS THE CITY  MANAGER POINTED OUT THAT WE DO  NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO  BORROW ANY MONEY AND THE CITY  SO WHEN THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO  THE CITY OF SARASOTA PEOPLE  FROM THEIR OR THAT IS I SPOKE  WITH COUNCILWOMAN, JOAN  FARRELL SHE HAD GREAT IDEAS  AND PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH THE  VENICE HISTORICAL GROUP WHO  WOULD IN TURN DIRECTED ME TO  SARASOTA AND THEY WERE JUST  THERE ALL IDEAS BASED ON US,  YOU KNOW ON HAND AS WE CAN'T  DO THAT SO THEN AND THE  CONVERSATIONS KIND OF STOPS  SHOW.  >> THAT IS A BIG BIG PROBLEM  THAT THAT WE HAVE HERE BUT I  DON'T SEE ANY ANY PROBLEM JUST  PUTTING IT OUT THERE MY ONLY  CONCERN IS I I DON'T WANT.  MANAGER WHEN IS DO WE HAVE OUR  WE DO HAVE A JOINT MEETING  WITH THE SARASOTA COUNTY  COMMISSIONERS LIKE. THAT'S TO  PARK FROM THIS IS NOT UNTIL  CORRECT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT  DATE TODAY'S PROPOSED ARE I  BELIEVE IN OCTOBER OR EARLY  NOVEMBER, OKAY. ALL RIGHT I  JUST DON'T WANT THAT MEETING  TO YOU KNOW PUT OFF BECAUSE OF  NOW THIS BECAUSE WHEN WE MEET  WITH THE SARASOTA COUNTY  COMMISSION IT'S ABOUT COUNTY  CITY THINGS SPECIFICALLY NOT  INVOLVING SOMETHING LIKE LIKE  NORMAL SPRINGS, THAT THAT'S A  WHOLE SEPARATE PROJECT ITSELF.  I BELIEVE YOU CAN SPRINGS ALL  BACK WITH THAT JOINT MEETING  IT ALSO CHOOSE BECAUSE.  >> IT WOULD THEN INVITE THE  OTHER REPRESENTATIVE PUT  QUESTION THAT THERE'S NOT A  THERE'S NOT A TON ITEMS THAT  YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THAT  LIST TO DISCUSS IT WILL BE A  VERY YOU KNOW OVER THE LAST  CONVERSATION ANYWAY, THE ONLY  BASED ON THE OTHER  COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS AS THE  TIMING OF THAT MEETING RIGHT.  IT IS IT IS NOT EASY TO GET  ALL THE UNKNOWN COUNTY  ♪ COMMISSIONERS TOGETHER. SO THE  EFFORT BY ADMINISTRATOR HAS  HAS GOTTEN US TO THAT POINT  AND WE'RE GRATEFUL TO MAKE  SURE THAT WE HAVE IT SO IT'S  ONLY A QUESTION YOU NEED TO DO  WANT  ♪ IT BEFORE OCTOBER. LAST  NOVEMBER, OKAY.  >> BUT YOU SAID THIS COULD BE  SOMETHING THAT WE PUT ON THE  AGENDA TOPPING THAT JOINT  MEETING AND THEN THAT'S WHEN  IT BUT HAITIAN CAN BE EXTENDED  TO THESE OTHER REPRESENTATIVES  AND IF THEY CAN MAKE IT GREAT  IF THEY CAN WOW AND THEY CAN  YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEND THEIR  THOUGHTS ARE THERE. BUT  THEY'VE COME UP WITH THEY KNOW  WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE  AND WHAT WE LIKE HAVE SO THEY  COULD SEND THAT ALONG YES, OR  IS THAT OUR TEAM SPOKE WITH.  REPRESENTATIVE BUCHANAN.  >> LAST FRIDAY IN IS  INTERESTING CONCERN WAS TO  MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD. NO MORE  PUBLIC PUBLIC.  >> MEETINGS TO RECEIVE BEEN  HERE INFORMATION FROM THE  PUBLIC. WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT  SUPPORTS WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT  BEFORE AND SO AS I SAID  WITNESS TOOK PART IN GROUP  SHEEP AND TOGETHER WE HAVE  HEARD A LOT OF INFORMATION  FROM THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE  WANTED TO COMMENT AT THIS  POINT. EXPLORED AND TALK TO  THE STATE WE'RE WORKING WITH  NONPROFITS GRANTS. WE ARE  EXPLORING HOW TO TAKE CARE OF  OURSELVES TRY AMEND IT. I  THINK WE'VE SORT BEAT THE DRUM  OF EXPLORING OPTIONS. TODAY AT  OPINION. BUT THE FACT THAT  THEY WANT TO ASSISTANCE IS  GREAT WE WELCOME THEIR SUPPORT  BECAUSE WE DO BELIEVE THAT  THEY HAVE ALWAYS SHOWN REPORTS  SUPPORT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE  THAT WE DO THE BEST THING FOR  THIS PARTICULAR HISTORIC  PROPERTY PROPERTY THAT  PRESERVES THE HISTORY OF MAKES  THE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT WE  CAN ALL CONTINUE TO BE  PROBABLE WITH SPRINGS ITSELF.  I THINK THAT WHEN YOU HEAR THE  OFFICER, MAY 28 YOU'RE GOING  TO KNOW AND JUST HOW MUCH WE  SORT OF GOING DOWN THOUGH  DIFFERENT PATHWAYS. WHAT YOU  HEAR THAT AND THEN YOU TRY TO  WRAP YOUR HANDS AROUND WHICH  WAY YOU WANT US TO GO IN THE  STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE  SURE THAT WE YOU UPDATES AS WE  CAN WITH BRINGS MIXED WITH THE  CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE IS  IMPROVED. WELL YOU DECIDE TO  LOWER TURNER HISTORICAL  DIRECTION FOR THE PROJECT  ITSELF. ALRIGHT VICE MAYOR.  YEAH PERHAPS MAYBE A PATH  FORWARD ON THIS BECAUSE. MAYOR  SAID UP YOU KNOW THE IDEA OF  ASKING. THE COUNTY COMMISSION  WHETHER OR NOT.  THEY WOULD.  >> THE INTEREST IN  PARTICIPATING IN A MEETING  LIKE THIS PRIOR TO  >> ALL.  >> MEETING. OR WHETHER THEY  WANT TO LEAVE IT FOR THE 4  MEETING I THINK IT'S WORTH  PURSUING BECAUSE I THINK IN  THE INTEREST OF AGAIN TURNING  OVER EVERY STONE. IF THEY WERE  TO BE AGREEABLE AND SAY GEE  YET WANT TO DO THAT THEN I  THINK WE CAN BRING YOU KNOW  THE SENATOR AND AND  REPRESENTATIVE BUCHANAN INTO  THE FOLD ON THAT. I THINK  THAT'S GOOD I MIGHT SUGGEST.  WE WAIT TO EXTEND THAT OFFER  UNTIL OUR MONTH IN MEETING AT  A COUPLE OF WEEKS AWAY WHICH  GIVES US. MORE IMPORTANT ON  WHAT'S TRANSPIRED BY CITY  MANAGER AND STAFF AT THAT  POINT THEN WE CAN HAVE A  LITTLE MORE. FOCUS ON. THAT  MEETING AND I SEE NO REASON  WHY WE SHOULDN'T ASKED.  ADMINISTRATOR IF HIS  COMMISSION WOULD BE WILLING TO  MEET EARLY OR WOULD THEY  PREFER TO WAIT TO THE END AT  THEIR OPTION. BUT I THINK  THEY'RE THE DRIVING FORCE IF  IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT  AND I THINK WE CAN FIND A WAY  TO GET YOU KNOW SENATOR  GRUTERS AND REPRESENTATIVE  BUCHANAN TO HOPEFULLY  ACCOMMODATE. I MEAN I KNOW  SCHEDULES ARE CRAZY BUT WE  COULD MAKE IT WORK AND THEN WE  HAVE ALL OPENED UP IN AND  AROUND PAY FOR BUT I THINK  INSTEAD IT TO STEP THROUGH A  PROCESS. LET'S HAVE A LOT THE  MONTH AND AGENDA ITEM. THE  OFFERED THROUGH THE COUNTY  ADMINISTRATOR SEE WHERE IT  LEADS US AGAIN I YOU KNOW  APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL'S DILIGENCE ON THIS  AS WE ALL REALLY WANT TO DO  THE RIGHT THING HERE AND I  WOULD NOT WANT ANYONE IN THIS  CITY TO THINK WE ARE NOT  LOOKING AT EVERY OPTION MORE  HAVE WE ARE NOT WILLING TO  LOOK AT EVERY OPTION SO THAT'S  IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO GET  AND IT'S JUST DOING IT THE  PROCESS SO. YOU KNOW IF THAT  MAKES SENSE TO PEOPLE I THINK  THAT'S RIGHT WAY TO GO ON.  SHOWS WHAT IT WAS WHO SAID  WAIT A 2 WEEK OR A BAR MEETING  AT THE END OF THE MONTH. AND  IF IF FORCED, YOU KNOW  HOPEFULLY ENCOURAGE SO HAVE  CITY MANAGER MAKE AN OFFER TO  COUNTY COMMISSION TO GET  TOGETHER IF THEY SO CHOOSE AND  WE'VE BEEN ON THEM TO DO THAT  AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE  OK AND  >> THANK YOU AND IT JUST  CONTEXT AND I TOTALLY AGREE  WITH BUT THE MICE THEY'RE JUST  OFFERED. ARE WHAT LEARNED IN  THIS PROCESS IT'S MARCH 5TH  THAT THE COUNTY COULD  PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THEY  CONTROL THE ENVIRONMENTAL  SENSITIVE LAYING PROGRAM IN  THAT PROGRAM YOU SO CHOOSE TO  GO TO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT  WITH NOT PROVIDE THE CITY WITH  FUNDING AND YOU WOULD DECIDE  UPON THE RIGHTS OF THE LAND  AND THEN IT JOE START  SOMETHING THAT COULD ALLOW  THEM TO WITHIN NEVADA BE HAPPY  PARTICULAR BUILDINGS AND THEN  IF JUST HAPPY TO ADD THAT WITH  YOUR BORROWING AUTHORITY THEN  YOU HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE TO  ACTUALLY PAY BACK 4. WHAT IS  IT YOU WANT TO DO ADDITION TO  IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT  SPRINGS ACTUALLY MAKES MONEY  ITSELF ANNUALLY WHICH COULD  HELP YOU PAY THAT BONDS IF WE  GIVEN SUCH AUTHORITY SO IT ALL  KIND ROLES IN TOGETHER BUT  IT'S A GREAT READ. THANK  >> OKAY COMMISSIONER, RICK  1000 I'M JUST GOING TO. MAKE A  COUPLE COMMENTS.  >> AND THEN I WILL TRY MOTION.  JULY IS WHEN THE COUNTY  COMMISSION TAKES BREAK WE TAKE  OUR BREAK IN AUGUST. IF WE  WAIT TO EXTEND AN INVITATION  TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION  FIGURING THAT THEY HAVE A  PROCESS TO PUT THAT ITEMS ON  THE AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW HOW  LONG THAT PROCESS IS WE MAY BE  I'M NOT ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IN  A TIMELY MANNER. I I WOULD  LIKE TO SEE ABOUT I DON'T WANT  TO ASSUME WHAT THE COUNTY  COMMISSION WILL SAY AND  DISCUSSED AT THEIR MEETING  THEY'RE SUBJECT TO THE SAME  SUNSHINE RULES WE ARE AND I  DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN  THEIR MOUTH, I WOULD LIKE FOR  US TO JUST INVITE THEM TO THE  MEETING LET THEM HAVE THEIR  COUNTY COMMISSION DISCUSSION  AGENDA ITEM AND LET THEM  DETERMINE WHAT THEY THINK IS  BEST FOR THEM AND THEIR  SCHEDULE OBVIOUSLY ALL OF US  SEEM TO BE AMENABLE TO HAVING  THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE  COUNTY AND OUR STATE ALUM  ELECTED. THE BIGGEST QUESTION  IS WHEN I REALLY THINK THAT IF  WE EXTEND THE INVITATION, LET  THEM HAVE THIS DISCUSSION LET  THEM FIGURE OUT WHEN THE BEST  WAY IS MOVING FORWARD. I DON'T  LIKE PUTTING WORDS IN PEOPLE'S  MOUTHS ARE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS  FOR OTHER ELECTED BOARDS I I  REALLY THINK WE JUST NEED TO  JUST SEND THEM THE INVITATION  LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE  WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS  DISCUSSION SEPARATE FROM OUR  JOINT MEETING THAT WE HAVE  BEEN ASKING FOR FOR A WHILE AS  THE ONE TOPIC DISCUSSION WITH  SAYS STATE PEOPLE AND BITE  THEM FOR FOOD LET THE  CONVERSATION GO TO THE NEXT  LEVEL. AND FALL WHERE IT'S  GOING TO FALL.  >> SO JUST TO CLARIFY YOU'RE  YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A JOINT  MEETING PRIOR TO THE OCTOBER  LAST NOVEMBER THE COUNTY  COMMISSIONERS WANT TO WITHIN  THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.  >> I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THEM  TO A JOINT MEETING OF THEM  HAVE THEIR CONVERSATION AS TO  WHAT THEY FEEL WOULD BE THE  BEST TIME LIKE WHEN WHEN WERE  YOU THINKING OF. I WILL BE  MAKING A MOTION TO INSTRUCT  THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY CLERK  TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY.  HOW DO DO ABOUT OK FIGURE OUT  WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO HAVE  THE MEETING BECAUSE IT'S NOT  WHEN WE WANT THE MEETING WITH  IT HAS TO BE MUTUALLY  AGREEABLE. I THINK IT'S MORE  IMPORTANT TO EXTEND THE  INVITATION. LET THEM HAVE THE  CONVERSATION LET THEM  DETERMINE WHAT THEY FEEL IS  THE APPROPRIATE TIME. I THINK  SOONER RATHER THAN LATER  BECAUSE. ALL RIGHT THAT WAS  GOING TO BE ELECTED COME  NOVEMBER I DO I MAKE A MOTION  THEN I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE  PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY, GO  AHEAD.  >> MAKE THE MOTION TO HAVE  CITY MANAGER CITY CLERK.  WHATEVER IS BEST SUITED FOR  THIS KIND OF ROLE TO INVITE  THIS SARASOTA COUNTY  COMMISSION TO A JOINT MEETING  TO DISCUSS  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS AS A  THINK TANK OPPORTUNITY WITH  OUR STATE ELECTED AND THE CITY  OF NORTH PORT ELECTED SAYS  SOON AS POSSIBLE.  >> TO CAPTURE THAT AND WE HAVE  THAT RIGHT BACK. SO WE KNOW.  >> TO INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER OR  CITY CLERK TO REACH OUT AND  BUY COUNTY COMMISSION FOR A  MEETING REGARDING WARM WARM  MINERAL SPRINGS.  >> TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER  CITY CLERK TO INVITE THE  SARASOTA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS  TO A JOINT MEETING TO DISCUSS  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS AS A  THINK TANK THAT STATE ELECTED  AND CITY OF NORTH PORT ELECTED  AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.  >> THAT I I'M SORRY GO IT.  >> SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.  VICE-MAYOR STOKES HAS SECONDED  THAT FOR DISCUSSION I WILL BE  SUPPORTIVE OF THIS MOTION AS  STRONG AS IT WAS QUALIFIED  THAT THE OFFER. THE EXTENDED  WE'RE TALKING TODAY 14  LITERALLY WE ARE TALKING LESS  THAN 2 WEEKS. I I JUST. WOULD  MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH  THIS. IF HAD OUR AGENDA ITEM  MONTH IN MEETING AND. WE WOULD  JUST BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE  WE ARE WITH THESE OTHER  VARIOUS GROUPS BEFORE WE  EXTEND I THINK WE COULD PUT  MORE TEETH INTO OUR. OUR OFFER  TO THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE.  I THINK THAT'S REALLY  IMPORTANT THING RIGHT NOW  QUITE FRANKLY I SEE THIS  ESSAY. SHE WOULD LIKE TO GET.  RING THE BELL. LET'S GET  EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND TALK  ABOUT MINERAL SPRINGS, I WOULD  LOVE TO HAVE MORE FOCUS  FOCUSED PERSPECTIVE ON SOME OF  VOTE. MORE CURRENT OPTIONS  AVAILABLE TO HERE BECAUSE I  THINK. HOW MAKE THIS OFFER TO  THE COUNTY. WILL DICTATE HOW  THEY RESPOND AND AND I'M NOT  QUITE OPTIMISTIC COMMISSIONER  VAL I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE  ANY INTEREST BUT I WANT TO  MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT TO GET THEM  INTERESTED AND I THINK WE  WOULD BENEFIT FROM AND NEEDING  BEFORE WE MADE YOUR FRONT  THAT'S JUST SUCH A IT'S SHORT  PERIOD IF IT WAS A MONTH AWAY,  I WOULD TEND TO AGREE, BUT I  JUST DON'T THINK I THINK WE'RE  SPLIT HERE SO I COULD SUPPORT  WE COULD. AND THIS TOO. I HAD  TO MONTH AND YOU KNOW TO OUR  MEETING. WELL IF WE JUST  WAITED UNTIL THEN AND THEN  MADE TO OFFER I MEAN. YOU KNOW  JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT HOW  WE ASK. AND NOT JUST A WE WANT  TO HAVE ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION  ON SPRINGS. I THINK THAT. I  TEACH. AND SOME COMMISSIONERS  OFF. BUT IT WOULD BE LIKE WHAT  DOES THIS MEAN I THINK WE CAN  PUT A LOT MORE TEETH AND TODAY  TO TO THE WATER IF WE BENEFIT  MORE WAITING TO GET THEM TO  >> THAT WE CAN WITHOUT YEAH,  THE ONLY REASON WHY I AM  ASKING FOR THE INVITATION TO  CONSENT. FOR A MEETING TO BE  DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WE  CAN FRAME THAT INVITATION TO  SAY WE WANT YOU TO PUT THIS ON  YOUR RADAR WE WANT YOU TO HAVE  THIS DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING  ANOTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE  SUBJECT IS SO FLUID. WE'RE  HAVING THE DISCUSSION ON APRIL  AND SORRY MAY 23RD 28TH  WHATEVER THAT DATE IS. WE WANT  TO PUT THIS ON YOUR RADAR SO  YOU GUYS CAN START SEEING  ABOUT YOUR CALENDARS KNOWING  THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A  DISCUSSION HERE TO GET  ADDITIONAL INFORMATION,  ESPECIALLY ABOUT GEOTECHNICAL  THAT INFORMATION WILL THEN  ALSO BE KIND OF PART OF THAT  OLD THINK TANK DISCUSSION  WHENEVER THAT SCHEDULE THE THE  GOAL IS HERE IS TO SAY  COMMISSION COUNTY  COMMISSIONERS. WE WANT TO HAVE  A MEETING WITH YOU. WE WANT  YOU TALK ABOUT IT SEE IF YOU  GUYS ARE WILLING AS A BOARD TO  HAVE A MEETING WITH US AND OUR  STATE ELECTIVES THIS IS FLUID  AND WE CAN FRAME THAT WAY WHEN  WE EXTEND THE INVITATION. THE  DISCUSSION ON. 20 IS PART OF  SOME OF INFORMATION THAT'S  COMING FORWARD IF WE WAIT 2  WEEKS BY THE TIME THE  INVITATION GOES OUT BY THE  TIME THEY GET IT AGENDA BY THE  TIME WE GET TO SNEADS  SCHEDULE. IT WILL BE SEPTEMBER  AND IT'LL ALL BE FOR NOT IT'S  JUST. TRYING TO GET THEM TO  PUT IT ON THEIR RADAR FOR THEM  TO HAVE THEIR DISCUSSION ON  THIS TOPIC IN THE SUNSHINE  MIKE WE HAVE TO HAVE  COMMISSIONER LANGDON HAS YEAH,  I JUST DON'T FEEL READY.  >> WE HAD A PATH FORWARD AS A  COMMISSION. AND AND NOW WE'RE  PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT. OUR  NEXT MEETING IS THE  APPROPRIATE TIME TO GET STAFF  REPORT. AND WHAT WORK HAS BEEN  DONE AND WHAT THE RESULTS ARE  I AM VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. TO  INVITING THESE FOLKS TO A  MEETING WHERE WHERE BASICALLY  SAYING TELL US WHAT TO DO  BECAUSE WE'RE CLUELESS. I  DON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL SO ON  OUR NEXT MEETING BECAUSE WE  DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TO  TALK IN DETAIL ABOUT ONE  MINERAL SPRINGS, AND A PATH  FORWARD LET'S HAVE THE  CONVERSATION THEM THAT. SO  WHEN WE HAVE A MEETING WITH  FOLKS AND AGAIN I'M NOT  OPPOSED TO THE MEETING. I WANT  TO FEEL READY AND AND YOU KNOW  WE THIS IS HOW WOULD LIKE TO  PROCEED. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT  YOUR HELP WITH I'M NOT AT ALL  COMFORTABLE WITH A THINK TANK  FRAME LESS KIND COME AGENDA I  WANT US TO HAVE OUR ACT  TOGETHER. OUR PATH FORWARD,  AND AT LEAST HAVE A  CONVERSATION WITH THESE FOLKS.  WITH THAT WERE OPEN TO THEIR  IDEAS BUT THIS IS WHERE WE  WOULD LIKE THEIR HELP IT'S 2  WEEKS. LESS SO ALL OF THIS OUT  AFTER WE GET THE STAFF REPORT  AND HAVE A HEALTHY  CONVERSATION ON HOW WE WANT TO  PROCEED WITH THIS. OKAY  COMMISSIONER IT THINK TOP  BEACH. MENTIONED WHAT ALL THE  THE SECOND READ THE MOTION  PLACE YET, BUT WE GET THAT.  >> THEREAFTER THE CITY MANAGER  OUR CITY CLERK 10 BUT THE  SARASOTA COUNTY BOARD OF  COMMISSIONERS TO A JOINT  MEETING TO DISCUSS  WARM MINERAL SPRINGS AS A  THINK TANK. THE STATE ELECTED  AND CITY OF NORTH PORT ELECTED  AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.  >> ALL RIGHT SO THAT'S THE  MOTION YOUR MIND I DIDN'T  WRITE IT DOWN MAKE THAT MOTION  I OK THANK YOU NIC DO. VICE  MAYOR SECONDED THANK YOU OKAY,  SO LET'S JUST VOTE ON  OKAY AND  THAT'S ONE YES AND 3 KNOW SO  THAT FAILS ONE TO 3.  >> THANK YOU FOR THE  CONVERSATION, IT WAS A GREAT  CONVERSATION, BUT IT'S NOT  THAT. TIES TIME UNTIL AFTER  CLOSER TO THE ELECTION IF  AFTER THE ELECTION. BUT THAT'S  OKAY. FOR THE CONVERSATION DO  APPRECIATE TIME. AND I JUST  WANTED PUT OUT THERE OUR  RESIDENTS THAT WE WILL BE  HAVING JOINT MEETING WITH THE  COUNTY.  >> AND THE CITY MANAGER SAID  THIS COULD BE ON THAT AGENDA  DISCUSSION POINT AND I DID  AGREE THAT MAY 28 PEOPLE HAVE  FACTORS CONSIDER WHERE WE  STAND FOR THAT WE REALLY KNOW  WHAT WE'RE THAT'S WHAT I WAS  THINKING SO. MOVE FORWARD SIDE  THE HEAD. AND I WOULD FOR THE  RECORD LIKE THE CITY.  >> AT THE TIME WE MEET 28, I  HAVE EVERY INTENTION. NO ONE  ELSE DOES. MAKE A MOTION  REQUESTING CITY MANAGER TO  REACH COUNTY COMMISSION AS  WELL AS OUR. SENATOR AND  REPRESENTATIVE I DON'T WANT  ANYONE OUT THERE TO THINK THAT  THIS COMMISSION THAT'S NOT  SUPPORT THIS THIS WAS AN ISSUE  UP. A TWO-WEEK TIME PERIOD  SHOULD THAT THE INFORMATION.  WE'RE ABLE TO GLEAN FROM OUR  MEETING AT THE END OF THIS  MONTH, WE'LL PUT US IN A MUCH  BETTER POSITION TO MAKE A MORE  POINTED REQUEST AND TO  IMPORTANT ORTIZ I WANT THEM  ESCORT THIS INVITATION LIGHTLY  I WANT TO TO MEET WITH US AND  TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT AND  WHATEVER ASSISTANCE THEY MAY  BE ABLE OFFER TO THIS PROJECT  SO IT SHOULD NOT BE  MISCONSTRUED THAT THIS BOAT  HERE WAS A. AGAINST HAVING  THIS MEETING THAT'S VERY  IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE  UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I CAN JUST  IMAGINE SOCIAL MEDIA BLOWING  UP COMMISSION ONCE AGAIN VOTES  AGAINST TURNING OVER EVERY  STONE MEETING WITH EVERY PARTY  THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED HERE  TODAY AND I WOULDN'T WANT  ANYONE TO THINK THAT THAT'S  THE CASE WE JUST WANT TO DO  THIS IN A MORE TIMELY  ORGANIZED PROCESS AND MAKE  SURE THAT WE CAN GET THERE BY  AND I AND AND THIS COMMISSION  OBVIOUSLY POTENT IMAGE ALREADY  BELIEVING THAT. ONCE WE HAVE  MEETING WE WILL BE MUCH BETTER  POSITIONS TO SOLICIT THEIR  PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU FOR  THAT VICE MAYOR. OKAY.  >> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO  PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE IS ALL  RIGHT SO MOVING TO ITEM 8  NATIONS COMMISSION  COMMUNICATIONS. COMMISSIONER  LANGDON MAYOR OF COURSE.  >> I'M ALWAYS UP  >> THAT'S THAT'S OK I JUST  HAVE ONE COMMENT AS I'VE BEEN  ROAMING AROUND THE COUNTY AND.  YOU KNOW WORKING ON VARIOUS  THINGS I'M JUST GETTING REALLY  EXCELLENT FEEDBACK.  >> FROM FOLKS, I'M TALKING  WEST ABOUT.  >> HOW THE CITY OF PORT  CONDUCTING ITSELF AND ITS  PROFESSIONALISM AND.  >> EXCELLENT FEEDBACK ON THE  FACT THAT WE'RE FINALLY  TACKLING.  >> YOU KNOW THE REALLY LARGE  HAIRY BEASTS OF ISSUES THAT  HAVE BEEN.  >> I'M NOT DEALT WITH IN THE  PAST AND THAT THEY'RE VERY  HAPPY TO SEE THE CITY OF NORTH  PORT STARTING TO COME INTO ITS  OWN. AS AN ENTITY SO I JUST  WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH MY  FELLOW COMMISSIONERS STAFF  BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT  EACH OTHER IT REALLY REQUIRES  ALL THE WHEELS OF THE BUS  MOVING THE SAME DIRECTION. AT  THE SAME TIME TO SUCCESSFULLY  TACKLE SOME OF THE ISSUES AND  CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE  TACKLING AT THIS POINT IN TIME  SO. WELL, DON TEEN. THAT'S IT  FOR ME ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU  COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER  MCDOWELL.  >> YEAH HAD THE I WAS THE  GUEST SPEAKER WITH THE CHAMBER  GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR THE  MONTH OF APRIL. ATTENDED THE  GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE HCA  WELLEN PARK 24 7 EMERGENCY  ROOM THAT IS SUCH NEEDED  ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND  TO OUR CITY. LOOK FORWARD TO  THAT OPENING I THINK THEY SAY  2020 YEAH.  >> THEY.  >> OPENING SESSION FOR THE  CITIZENS ACADEMY. I ATTENDED  THAT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE.  >> PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE  PARTICIPATING AND LEARNING  ABOUT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS THE  PD AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT I  WISH THEM WELL AND LOOK  FORWARD TO THEIR GRADUATION I  HOPE YOU GET EVERY BIT OUT OF  IT AS I DID WHEN I  PARTICIPATED IN THAT ATTENDED  A COUPLE OF THE COMMUNITY  BUDGET INPUT MEETINGS, I'M THE  ONE THAT WAS HELD HERE. AT  CITY HALL IN THE MORNING.  ATTENDED THAT SESSION. I  ATTENDED THE ETHICS TRAINING.  THAT WAS HELD VENICE AND CITY  ATTORNEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB  REPRESENTING THE CITY AS ONE  OF THEIR PRESENTERS SO YOU DID  A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU VERY  MUCH. I A. ON THEM AND SO THE  LEAGUE OF WE HAD A MEETING  LAST WEEK AND AT THAT TIME  FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES ALSO  PRESENTED THE HOME RULE HERO  AWARDS OF WHICH I WAS A  RECIPIENT AND A PROUD  RECIPIENT TO THAT. I FIND THAT  WORD TO BE ONE OF THE MOST  PRESTIGIOUS THAT YOU CAN GET.  THE ARGUS FOUNDATION, I'M  SORRY, YEAH ARTIST FOUNDATION  HAD A LUNCHEON MISTER CONNOR  THE SUPERVISOR OF SARASOTA 10  SCHOOLS GAVE FANTASTIC  PRESENTATION AND SPOKE ABOUT  THE REFERENDUM FOR THE SCHOOL.  GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT.  ATTENDED THE CHAMBER'S NIGHT  AT THE RACES WHAT A FUN EVENT  THAT ALWAYS IS EVERY SINGLE  YEAR, I'M VERY CROWDED TOO. A  LOT OF PEOPLE WERE IN  ATTENDANCE I HOSTED A TOWN  HALL AND I ALSO HOSTED THE  NORTH PARK GOVERNMENT NEW  CLASS I'M HOPING TO HAVE ONE  MORE OF THOSE 4 I TURNED OUT  OF OFFICE. AND I APPRECIATE  THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS  KNEW ABOUT THE WARM MINERAL  SPRINGS DISCUSSION. AN UPDATE  AT THE END OF THIS MONTH  UNFORTUNATELY I DID NOT  HOWEVER IT WOULD NOT JUST  CHANGED MY THOUGHT OF PUTTING  THAT AGENDA ITEM ON FOR THIS  MEETING BECAUSE I I STILL  BELIEVE THAT TIME WAS OF THE  ESSENCE AND WE COULD HAVE MADE  IT HAPPEN, BUT IT'S OK WE WILL  SEE HOW IT PROGRESSES FORWARD  AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A  CONVERSATION AND HOPEFULLY IT  WILL INCLUDE OUR STATE ELECTED  STAND A COW AND LESS OF THE  SAME TIME. SO THANK YOU FOR  EVERYTHING GOOD MEETING TODAY,  GUYS THANK YOU I THANK YOU.  COMMISSIONER, VICE MAYOR.  >> ALL RIGHT JUST A COUPLE OF  AND THAT CHAMBER ROW  LEADERSHIP LUNCHEON.  >> AS THEY KICK OFF THERE  CLASS THIS WAS GOOD TO SEE A  LOT OF YOUNG FACES YOUNG  FUTURE LEADERS. TO TALK A  LITTLE BIT BUT CITY COMMISSION  DOES AND HOW OUR GOVERNMENT  WORKS THE UPSIDES AND THE  DOWNSIDES. AND ALSO WHEN THAT  ENDED WITH MY FELLOW  COMMISSIONERS TO  GROUNDBREAKING THE HCA  EMERGENCY ROOM. HOSPITAL AT  THE CORNER OF TOUCH PRIETO  LEAD 41. IT IS GOING TO GET  EXCITING. WE'VE GOT THAT ONE  WE'VE GOT A A SARASOTA  MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. AT WEST  VILLAGES BOULEVARD 41 THAT'S  GOING TO GO IN. AND THEN WE'VE  GOT OUR SUMTER 75 SO.  HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE WE  WILL BE NOTICED SOUTH SHORE  MEDICAL OF. SARASOTA COUNTY  AND FINALLY WAS ALMOST A MONTH  AGO TO DO THAT AND I DON'T  KNOW IF I BROUGHT IT UP. WE  HAVEN'T. GOT A LOT OF  COMMISSION COMMUNICATIONS LAST  UNIT 6 FROM SO LATE TEND TO  GULF COAST COMMUNITY  FOUNDATION IN VENICE CHAMBER.  ANNUAL FORECASTS BREAKFAST AND  YEAH, WHICH REALLY WAS A  TREAT. WAS INTERESTING THIS  YEAR. YOU KNOW LOOKS LIKE  INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO  STAY HIGH AND INFLATION IS  GOING TO BE A STRUGGLE. BUT.  NEWS THE SILVER LINING IS HERE  IN SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WE  CONTINUE TO INVEST CHUG ALONG  YOU ALL THE AREAS IN THE STATE  AND THE WE UP IN THE MOST  FAVORABLE POSITION  ECONOMICALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A  HELP STATED. IT CONTINUED SOME  OF THE WONDERFUL INCENTIVE  PROGRAMS TO BRING NEW  BUSINESSES, YOUR TO THE STATE  BUT AND IN SPITE OF THAT ARE  OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT  THE CITY AND THE COUNTY LEVEL  DOING A GREAT JOB TO FILL THE  GAP AND AND ATTRACT. GROWTH TO  THIS AREA SO. THAT'S WHAT GOT.  >> ALL RIGHT THAT'S THAT'S  PRETTY GOOD ADVICE. ALL RIGHT  THANKS FOR THAT WE I DID  SUBMIT MY I'M SORRY THAT IT'S  LIKE BECAUSE I THINK THE NEXT  MEETINGS ALREADY COMING UP FOR  THE 8 COASTAL IN PARKLAND NASH  I ALWAYS FORGET WHAT THEY'RE  CALLED NOW JENNY POE WE FOR  BACK TO WHAT THEY USED TO BE  CALLED.  >> AND IN PARTICULAR HOW  NATIONAL PARK SERVICE GAVE A  PRESENTATION ON WANTING TO  MAKE THE PEACE AND MYAKKA.  >> RIVERS.  >> I'M GIVING THEM FEDERAL  SCENIC RIVER DESIGNATION AND  THEN I HAD A ZOOM CALL WITH  JON THAXTON AND CITY MANAGER  WE WON THAT ALL TOO.  >> YES, DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN,  BUT I YOU WERE ON THAT ONE.  THAT JOHN PAXSON WAS TALKING  ABOUT THE VALUE OF HAVING THE  MYAKKA RIVER. FEDERAL  DESIGNATION AS WILD AND SCENIC  BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF  DISCUSSION AT THAT CH END UP  MEETING AND THERE WERE SOME  BOATS THAT WERE PEOPLE ABSTAIN  SWIFTMUD FWC AND SAVE NORTH  PORT STAINED FROM VOTING ON ON  THAT THE CONCERN WAS ABOUT  THAT IT WOULD ADD ANOTHER  LEVEL OF PERMITTING BUT IT  REITERATE IT MANY TIMES THAT.  BEING A SCENIC RIVER EVEN EVEN  THE MYAKKA WITHIN THE STATE  DOESN'T. INVOLVING THE  PERMITTING PROCEDURES AT ALL  IT WAS JUST REALLY OPENED IT  UP TO MORE FUNDING SO. WE MEET  AGAIN THIS WEEK COURTS NEXT  WEEK, SO WE'LL SEE WHAT'S  HAPPENED SINCE THEN. I  ATTENDED THE COUNCIL OF  GOVERNMENTS ISSUE THE VICE  MAYOR. THOSE TO THAT BUT I  WANT THIS TIME AND I'M I'M  GLAD THAT I DID THAT WAS HELD.  WHERE WAS THAT VOTE THAT'S  RIGHT ON BOTH I WAS LIKE GOING  THERE TO NICE RIDE. THAT IT IS  IT'S A VERY NICE RIGHT. BOOK  IS A INTERESTING. AND I'M ALSO  YOU HEAR FROM OTHER  MUNICIPALITIES AND WHAT  THEY'RE DEALING WITH AND CITY  MANAGER OF VENICE AND LASALLE  HE IS HE IS RIGHT RIGHT TO THE  POINT ALL THE TIME ABOUT  THINGS AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT  THE VENICE AIRPORT AND HOW  PEOPLE DIDN'T SEEM TO REALIZE  IT WAS AN AIRPORT NEXT TO THEM  WHEN THEY MOVE THEIR CELL  LINES THAT CAN KIND OF RELATE  TO THAT PEOPLE NOT REALIZE  SOMETHING AND THEN WANT  SOMETHING DONE ABOUT IT. I  DIDN'T BRING UP MOSQUITO  CONCERNS THEY'RE MANAGER AT  THE COUNTY MANAGER JOHN LEWIS.  MINDED ME THAT THEY DO HAVE  THE 3, 1, 1, INFORMATION ONE  THAT PEOPLE CAN CALL WHEN THEY  HAVE ANY CONCERNS THAT ARE  COUNTY. YOU ATE IT BECAUSE THE  COUNTY DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF  OUR YOU KNOW. PROGRAM. I WENT  TO THE INDUCTION OF THE NEW  KEY CLUB MEMBERS PORT HIGH  SCHOOL. AND THAT WAS REALLY A  A REALLY NICE LITTLE EVENT  THAT THEY HAD AFTER SCHOOL AND  THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CLOSE  TO MY HEART BECAUSE SON. IF  YOU CHECK PARTIAL IN HIGH  SCHOOL I WAS THE KEY CLUB  ADVISOR ITS SERVICE ORIENTED  CLUB AND THEY JUST DO SOME  REALLY GREAT THINGS THE  KIWANIS THEY WORK WITH THE  KIWANIS CLUB SO THEY ARE  ALWAYS INVOLVED WITH THE  KIWANIS. ACTIVITIES AND  PROGRAMS I DID ATTEND THAT HCA  GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY AS  WELL WHICH WAS REALLY NICELY  DONE AND GOOD TO SEE ENGLEWOOD  HOSPITAL IS KIND OF MOVING OUT  OF ENGLEWOOD SO TO SPEAK  CREATING A AN ENTITY AT WELLEN  ALSO ABOUT THAT SOME MEMORIES  BECAUSE MY PARENTS FIRST MOVED  TO VENICE THE LATE 80'S, THEY  WERE STILL WORKING AND MY MOM  WAS RN AND SHE WORKED AT THE  HOSPITAL SO GO THEY'RE PRETTY  OFTEN. JUST A PORT GOT TALENT.  THIS YEAR'S THEME WAS THE  BLUES BROTHERS COULDN'T PICKED  A BETTER THEME. I LOVE THAT  MOVIE. JAKE AND ELWOOD AND OUR  OWN LAURA AND SO FROM PARKS  AND REC WAS JAKE AND DEVIN WAS  WAS HOME IT WAS REALLY REALLY  GOOD I REALLY LIKE THAT. I GOT  A CHANCE TO GO THE LONG  FARMERS MARKET FIRST TIME I  WAS OVER THERE. I'M SORRY IT  TOOK SO LONG TO GET THERE. BUT  IT WAS GREAT I ALSO SAW SOME  OLD THOSE YOU THAT DON'T KNOW  YOU KNOW I USED DO A FARMER'S  MARKETS AFTER I RETIRED FROM  TEACHING AND AND AND TO GO AND  WAS GOING TO GET A WIN IN THE  LEAD. SO I WENT AROUND AND I  SAID, AND THEY SAID I KNOW YOU  DON'T I I YEAH I WAS NEXT DOOR  TO SELLING MY MIND SO.  >> IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THEM AND  WHATEVER RATE RATE MARKET IT'S  VERY NICELY LAID OUT BY THEIR  HERITAGE OAK TREE, THERE'S  ALWAYS MUSIC PLAYING THERE SO  JUST A REALLY GREAT. ADDITION  THAT WE HAVE HERE.  ♪ I DID GO TO THE CHAMBER EVENT  9 THE RACES THAT WAS  INTERESTING, I'VE NEVER BEEN  SO THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS ME  TO SAY HOW MANY PEOPLE  ♪ WERE THERE. JUST THE LAST  THING I JUST READ THIS THIS  MORNING AS YOU KNOW I HAVE A  PLACE MY HEART THE PUBLIC  WORKS THAT THERE ARE WORK  THROUGH THAT.  >> THAT OUTSIDE.  >> THEY ARE SUBJECTED TO  WHATEVER R R. FLORIDA WEATHER  IS  >> I READ THAT UNFORTUNATELY I  DON'T KNOW WHY THAT HOUSE BILL  4.33 WAS PASSED THAT PREVENTS  LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM  REQUIRING PROTECTIVE MEASURES  FOR WORKERS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT  WAS THE BASIS FOR THAT, BUT I  CERTAINLY WILL DO SOME  RESEARCH NOW WE NEED TO DO ALL  WE CAN AND THOSE OF THAT THE  JOBS TO THAT WE SEEM TO HAVE  PROBLEMS FILLING AND THAT'S  WHY BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTSIDE  AND THERE. IT'S VERY HARSH  CONDITIONS HOME YOU'VE GOT TO  START ALL OVER AGAIN AND  YOU'RE EXHAUSTED FROM THE  NIGHT BEFORE ESPECIALLY WITH  OUR HEAT THAT THAT THAT  HAVING. LATELY SO I FEEL FOR  THEM I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT  UP. THAT'S IT FOR ME SO NOW  WE'RE ON REPORTS FROM OUR  CHARTER OFFICERS.  >> CITY ATTORNEY. I HAVE  NOTHING TO MANAGER CITY CLERK.  ALL RIGHT SO ARE WE GET  NOTHING ELSE. ALL RIGHT SO  IT'S ONE 43, AND WE'LL BAT.  >> BUT THEY WON 43 AND THIS  WATER IS RETAINED IN THE  WATERWAYS AND A STEP-DOWN  ELEVATION SYSTEM CONFIGURATION  THIS MEANS THE WATER