##VIDEO ID:dEh6Wdflzas## e e this is a test of the city of black audio system yes problem e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e August the 6 2022 4 o'l in the afternoon to order please if all would rise I'll bring the indication and Mr berett oh he's on M Pastor mberry if you would if you do the invocation please are you there Pastor mber can you hear me yes sir I can now thank you all right thank you yes sir father again we thank you for how good you've been all day you blessed us and woke us up early this morning allowed us to see a day we've never seen before we thank you dear God for your many benefits and blessings pray God that your hand will stay upon this board these members and every constituent we pray thy blessings will be upon them give them wisdom in all their decision makings father you know what needs to be done for this city better than any of us do you said in all our ways acknowledge you and you'll direct our path we need your directions in all we do it is in Jesus name we pray amen amen thank you please join me to fled flag flag of the United States of America and to the repic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice thank you very much please have a seat Miss can you give D roll call please certainly Miss Owens is not present for the record um Miss Wilson is not present for the record Mr Deo is excused Chase Barnes here Earl Wallace Here Andrew Bernett here chairman kber here thank you we have a Corum Mr chair thank [Music] you we now do the appeals and procedures and esart communication um any person wishing to appeal any decision decision made by the planning board with respect to any matter considered at such meeting will meet will need a record of the proceedings and for such purpose we'll need need to ensure that verbatim record of the proceedings is made which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is based Florida Statutes 286 0105 thank you very much um can I get a motion for appeals approval of minut Mr chair I make a motion we approve the minutes have a motion in a second all those in favor signified by saying I I thank you very much motion carries um let me see here I don't have any cards for public comments is there anyone here that was would like to make a public comment on on not on what we're speaking on just in general seeing none we'll move on into regular business um Mr Lorenzo you want to bring us who's bringing us to the first case there PB case 2327 yes Mr chairman afterno yes sir couple times then this it has been continue uh it's been in the work for few months now and this is a final plat the preliminary plat was approved by the board back in see I believe the premier was approved back in 2023 and another coming for the final plat is um it's a 3163 acres and they're trying to subdivide the existing parcel into four Parcels creating three new out Parcels we have reviewed this application like I said many times uh since the last meeting you were supposed to listen it was continue in May if you remember and after that the applicant submit a new Revis plans which is what we have here and based on our review um they meets the requirement generally of the Florida statue and our code we also have uh contract an independent surveyor to represent the city for the review of the proposed plat and he indicated that he has no concerns with the plat and he provided no comments so our recommendation still is for approval of this final plat and if there's any condition that had to be addressed by the applicant they will have to do it before he goes to the city commission okay thank you with that I'm going to turn over to to the agent for the applicant and going to walk you through the proposal okay thank you good afternoon autum martinage Matthews dccm uh we have a PowerPoint presentation that'll be pulled up momentarily I do have smaller 8 and a half by seven excuse me just a minute yes is there any way we can get the ring out of these microphones okay thank you sorry try this again I do have 11 by 17 copies of the plat as well if someone wants to see something that's smaller than the the giant version over here um surveyor was going to attempt to log on Via Zoom um not sure if he's been able to jump on or not oh there he is he logged on he logged on in person what's what happens when you don't pay pay attention to the audience is there a clicker or should I just tell you to advance the next slide um right oh I mean I can do it either way whatever is ex decision there bad [Laughter] decisions okay yeah there's there some notes on a couple of the slides but um nothing all right um there we go so this is the PAC Camal Subdivision plat um PB 2327 um I should say final plat not preliminary plat the property is located at 400 North State Road 19 it is currently developed at De developed as a the Paca Mall uh located on the northwest side of State Road 19 between St John's Avenue and Reed Street Street uh you can see an aerial here on the screen the existing uh future land use is commercial with the existing zoning is intensive commercial or C2 so our um we are requesting to um re to Plat the site for a total of four Lots as Lorenzo said um the BC and D you see denoted on this aerial uh via the yellow stars is the general of these uh new Parcels with a being the parent parcel as I call it which is the rest of the site at large and this is the the north part you can see this is uh partial C which is on the West Northwest side of the site parcel a which is located immediately adjacent to the Lowe's boundary property line and then parcel B is the partial to the South uh with parcel B again ding being the entire rest of the parcel uh we have shown all existing easements uh including utility easements on the site uh there will be a reciprocal access easement agreement filed at the time of platting to allow U the three Parcels to basically access the entire parent parcel for um both vehicular pedestrian access as well as any utility needs or anything like that they will have a universal access easement for the entire partial D um and then this is just some of the zoning notes and then note 12 here uh you can see 12.1 12.2 and 12.3 are the general language related to the easements um that are also um part of the reciprocal access easement draft that was provided as part of our application um and with that you know we're I'm here for questions um and Stephen's here if there's any um plat related questions as well thank you anybody board got any questions What's the phrase at the end thep the it helps if I this page right here sir no the description of the be sub um you got a link you know what I'm talking about Ste I don't I don't have it in front of me it's over here oh it's on the first page it says not part of record can he speak into a microphone Please Mr chair I'm sorry St can you speak into a microphone please Mr chair this is Stephen speaks from 120 rain treewood Trail pla Florida 32177 probably a where it says not part of record description that's probably a scrier area that should come out the acreage the 31.4 five acreage is probably the total acreage and then where it says said land situated and being part of puton County Florida that's the uh which word that huh you said there I agree and the title of the CL in your description in your description yeah than you uh in your description you say it's a part of a recorded subdivision already and in 177 you're supposed to call it a you know in your description and in the caption of the plat that it's a replat of part of that first couple of lines of your description you say it's you you give it's a meats and balance description being a part of Sunny Sunny Heights is it sunny Gardens Sunny Gardens or whatever it is but you don't call the name of the plat as being a replat of part of Sunny Gardens and then which is 177 so so this description was is the description of record I feel like I'm hearing you say Earl that it would be more appropriate if I said a replat of the pacol plat not more appropriate it it be correct it would be correct yeah and uh you've got to uh in your name of your plat what do what do you call it pacol or something like thatal plat yeah you got to call out that it is a replat a part of Sunny Gardens Sun G okay if I could just a this discussion um fla statute 177 does require that it be called a replot I do believe that that would constitute scer era that can easily be rectified without the need for going back through a public hearing on this matter um but you'll need to make your approval if that is the direction that this board chooses to go in um you need to have that a condition so that we can make the appropriate changes in terms of fixing that errors before it's recorded the public records okay and in your notes you have uh for your Legend there go to that yes sir take that can you switch back to our presentation please oh keep going it's where you call for I think it's supposed to be uh building restriction lines but I'm not sure what it's called these right here the one two and three under number 12 are specifically related to the easement and this is language that was brought up by the attorney this in your Legend there you know where's your Legend at Stephen I'm not familiar with the PowerPoint presentation the legend is not in the PowerPoint we did not put the legend here I can find it in this yeah I got that I'm sorry I'm screwed up it's the next plat but that's okay okay so that doesn't apply to us okay you good Mr Wallace uh yeah thank you okay is there anybody here that would like to speak on this against or for any audience okay seeing then I'll bring you back to the board what pleasure of the board I have one quick question if you don't mind uh Mr Wallace last time this came up you you had a long list of concerns about the plat um and relying heavily on your background and surveying are you satisfied with the current minus the scribblers error I only got to see it a couple hours ago and uh after that meeting I had a meeting with the city attorney the planner and another planner and we discussed it all and so then when I saw today some of those things are still there so I'm not happy I'm not satisfied but would you mind pointing out what other Visions you'd like to see addressed so that we can be aware of them I'm not going to go through the whole plat sitting here uh I've I've shown uh the planners and the City attorney what what I had problems with last time and I assume that they told Stephen to fix them and you understand I I hear you I'm just I'm relying heavily on your satisfaction of the details of which you have the knowledge um ba based and this is going to cause heartburn but based on what I looked at earlier over in the planning department and what I see now I'm going vote no when it comes down to approve okay okay now I'm not telling you know y'all y'all vote your own conscious there there's uh they Monumental no but no not you I'm Point St uh it's it's a sloppy plat or and this is our how many times four or five 30 huh 30 30 it feels like it but slowly we've been gnawing away with these things and uh be honest with you I'm tired of knowing I'm just going to vote no okay well I'm I'm of the opinion obviously well beyond my realm of expertise when we get into plat so I'm leaning heavily on Mr Wallace's Judgment of the product um and and the the issues that he pointed out last meeting that apparently have not been addressed so can we speak to that briefly if staff could have speak to that okay great chair can I can I address that issue that I my next Point yes can can anybody elaborate on any of that i' I've retired all of my licenses uh I don't have a dog in to fight anymore uh just you know you're a big dog to be fighting in there so just don't I used to be but I goty that uh you good yeah yeah I just want to address you know we did me with Mr Wallace you know the City attorney myself and and Sherry of my staff we went over some of the issues that he pointed out and after that that was related to to the applicant and to the their surveyor they did resubmit a new plat addressing which which we believe were all the concerns uh except for today's you know those SC erors uh we believe it was satisfy you know the the issue that were raised uh that and that's the reason we're recommending approval uh we're not surveyors we don't have the expertise but we review against the statue and against the the St and against the code as much as we could and then we have um the surveyor that it was high not high by the city you know but working in behalf to have an independent review of that plat and the surveyor has indicated that he has no concerns over it so if if if this board wants to approve this uh I would I would suggest or recommend to you you do so with the condition that those uh criminals errors that were pointed out today are addressed before he goes to the city commission I would not schedule the item for the city commission unless those items are are satisfied 177 was like a checklist it's Florida Statutes you can start at the top and read the first item look at your flat if you've completed that check it off and go to the next one and you can go down through there and when you come out the other end you got a plat that is completely compliant but you got to you got to take the time to do those things and uh there's actually there's actually a put out by the state there is a checklist that you can go down and check the boxes as you go through 177 and that's our plat law for subdivisions and the reason it's there is to keep something from getting in the records like the say in a replat of doesn't seem like a big deal but a surveyor can then he knows that is a replat of this previous subdivision he needs to pay attention to the previous two if you just got yeah yeah yeah you don't know that especially if you're from out of County so would you like to speak in I would like to address the yes ma'am so uh as Lorenzo said we did meet with uh Miss West me in favor repeat your name and address autum martinage 7 Waldo Street St Augustine thank you we did meet with City staff to go over uh Mr um Wallace's concerns back in March April quite a while ago and staff um my team did pull chapter 177 and we went through the plat with a fine- tooth comb we then met with uh Mr speaks and again went over everything we thought that we had made every every change everything um staff was satisfied Mr Morris who reviewed our plat was satisfied if it is of the uh pleasure of the board and we are able to per Florida law we would be happy to sit down with Mr Wallace to again go over everything and just you and we have not spoken directly with Mr Wallace you know we've we've through staff so we are happy to do so again just to make sure before we get to City commission that something hasn't slipped through the cracks okay let me ask you this M West maybe you can tell me this Mr Wallace if you would make the I just included you so you perk your ears up at me um or her her your your ears are always perked up at me if we if we get you to make a motion with all the things that you think need to be addressed and then allow the staff to take care of those through that motion would that satisfy you uh I told you how I'm going to vote uh okay I'm you know at some point I I can come down and do do it again uh I just don't want to I mean you know with the business and them trying to do what they're doing I just don't I understand that completely I I I dealt with uh clients yes sir understand 43 years yes sir and I know time is money and I understand her position I mean I'm not trying to pound something through here I'm just trying to make a compromise where you know we can work through this and they could staff could I'll do whatever needs to be done well you're really the only one that has the knowledge like he said that could throwing a lot on me I don't I don't have a license anymore I got rid of it okay so I but that strokes and couldn't go in the woods and swamps so quit yes M West do you have an idea of how we could do that yeah um my question was if revisions need to be made after the fact is has to turn around come back to us correct it depends on the signicance of the revisions obviously if it's a scrier error that does not need to come back to the planning board if amounts to something more than a scrier eror um than it would need to come back so I I do just want to practice this with we also value all of our volunteer board members especially um the expertise that Mr Wallace brings to the table and we did not take his comments from the last meeting lightly we spent a considerable amount of time I'm talking hours and hours overing conference room going over every single detail and he's right 177 serves as a a master checklist on plats um and I do believe uh with the exception of defining it as a replat you have met the current statutory requirements um for plat approval um I appreciate the applicant's offer to meet with us again um but at this point we we really have chewed the Mead off of this bone pretty extensively B and it has used significant um resources to try and complete that objective so we are trying the best we can without an internal survey or on St I do apprciate you know what I told you before y'all sitting too close together to be Jing like that so I'm GNA ask again you don't have any more questions been looking that way looking at you I apologize I have questions I just have obviously we don't want to hold up progress um but at the same time details are important and they create issues down the road so I'm just if if staff is very confident um that they've crossed the eyes and across the teas out the eyes and that they don't foresee any issues coming forward then then I'm comfortable taking them at their word with that okay so what's the pleasure of the board given that information Mr chair chair if you will I'll make the motion uh that we recommend the approval of the final plot subject to the correction of the scrier error noted earlier by Mr Wallace second a second I I didn't know the scrier error I asked what that note meant okay um for the record the scrier error would be per Florida statute 177 properly categorizing okay a motion second on floor with how those in favor signify by saying I I I those opposed no he and three eyes and one n motion passes moving on along to case number pb-10 thank you Mr chairman yes sir this is 2410 The M Glory Drive and it has a multiple uh request in this application and let me just um point out to you that when this first was applied to to the city for approval it was just one parcel of 31 Acres subsequent to that the the applicant acquire an additional parcel and therefore it's the reason that the staff report is is is a structure based on the parcels and then at the end we have a recommendation that is a little bit different what they requested and I will explain that to you when I get to the recommendation but basically there are two Parcels uh they ask him I divided in parcel a and parcel B just to make it a little bit uh easier to to follow could be complicated so they asking for annexation of parcel a which is 23 and something acres into the city uh they also asking to amend the future line use designation on that parcel and to and have a resoning on parcel B which is the one that they acquire afterwards they asking also for a that is inside the city that does not require an annexation it's already part of the city and they asking for uh a line use Amendment and a resoning as well if we just focus on parcel a uh like I said that is within the county and it's part of an existing Enclave is completely surrounded by by City boundaries except for two parts that are to the north but it's it's a big Enclave that you know based on the statute and it needs to be eliminated of this reduced and this application is doing that by annexing this parcel into the city they asking for an amendment from the pan County urban service to the city medium density residential RM and the resoning from the existing R1 of the county to the city plan unit development zoning on parcel B which is inside the city uh they're seeking a resoning from the current multif family residential R3 and neighborhood commercial c1a to plan unit development that parcel has two zoning designation the one that is fronting on St John's is a commercial and and the rest of the parcel is residential and they also asking that to be a PUD a plan unit development we have reviewed the annexation in me the requirement of the statutes we have reviewed also uh the application for the future line use against the standards and that we have in our code as well as the resoning and they all meet our standard the annexation the resoning and and the future line use Amendment however um our recommendations a little bit different what they apply but the only reason is that the the plan unit development overlay is just that it's an overlay that you apply to the existing line use designation or existing zoning the qu the problem with this application is that in the case of parcel B uh they ask seem to be go straight to PUD but if it doesn't have an underlying residential designation they cannot get the density they're proposing to have they're proposing to to have a designation I mean a density of eight units per acre gross acre and the intent the final intent is to develop these two Parcels together with uh a residential development to 248 uh town homes so in order to get a density they have to have an underlying residential designation uh and therefore that's our recommendation is that for both Parcels they have an underlying R3 designation with the overlay PUD designation and that is our recommendation that is in the staff report and I will just read it for the record just to make it clear so we recommended a motion to approve the following I one annexation of partiel a into the city of palaka Municipal boundaries two am mem the future land use for this parcel a from palna County urban service to the city of palaka residential medium and ronal parcel a from paa County R1 to multif family residential R3 with the plan unit development overlaid on top of it and finally four is the resort parcel B from the neighborhood commercial sectioned uh to multif family R3 with also an overl plan unit development overlay District uh the applicant the agent for the applicant is here and she's going to make a short presentation and I'm here to answer any questions uh just to point out that uh we have we have included a map that summarizes you know our recommendation which is the last page of the staff report thank yeah Mrs EST going to address you thank you please state your name and address for the record please I feel so short right now hold this down Pull It Right on down to where you need it I am short for the record um Shen Estes uh 14785 Old St Augustine Road Jacksonville um I actually don't have a short presentation I feel like Lorenzo hit everything um on the head when it comes to the the project we've been working on this for quite some time but I am here for questions um if you have any just anybody on the board have any questions Mr Barnes okay I had one question and it might not be the appropriate time to address it but just I was reviewing the packet um and said the primary entrance for traffic will be off of St John's correct it's correct you're right and the secondary is off M we do plan on keeping m Open yes okay that I was I mean Mr CH I just had some concerns just with that the traffic in that area be tight but I'm assuming y would have some speeds or something through there because I know that road runs right through well it does run through the apartment plus there's two still existing Parcels to the north up there um that one is occupied the other one's still in ownership it's not under you know us or anything so we vacated um the internal roads um with the county they were very happy to give up those rways but the MCL Drive will stay open and improvements will be made to that section of mccy road yeah and where will that come out on St John's Avenue can um do you have a the she said it can be next to the apartment thank you between college and Zigler if you go back to the one that was there okay so what is there where are you coming out there is what I'm getting trying get at off of you mean where exactly on St John yes ma' just an idea still been engineered so I couldn't give you a very specific answer um but um generally I would say it's probably more than 500 feet from the apartment access point which one the one to the West sorry Carriage Gates yes okay yes all right thank you you're welcome is there complex in well you have you have um Carriage Gates and Holly Ridge there complex to the right hand side of that to the Viking sits back off yes sir and it comes out right there the um so the commercial Rob it's not coming is it is is where you're talking about is it between Holly Ridge and you said I heard you say Viking is Viking manner yes okay so you'd be further to the east than than what I'm thinking a little bit Well we'd be to the west of Viking Manor right but I'm saying what in my mind I'm trying to put it together we'd be further to the east You' be between Holly Ridge and probably that doctor's office yes okay we chair just point out that U they're not applying for development approval at this point right they will and we're going to be able to to look into much more detail I understand I'm just trying to get just have a general yeah just where where abouts right just for my own mindset okay all right so anybody else got any questions Mr bar Mr Wallace you have any questions do we have to make it into one parcel for us to get your density well there were a few different reasons um that parcel came to us afterwards and it actually makes for a much better access point than mccl so it right it felt better it just it's safer it just turned out to be a much better option but don't you need the acreage of the two together to well that definitely helps as you can see the pond there's a rather large pond to the north as well too so there's a lot of Green Space up in that area as well so it's providing some yes um but the majority is going to be further down okay any other question M Mr Wallace was your question is was your question do we need to combine the two Parcels into one legal parcel do we need to combine micone and to get the development going we need to Mr Wells turn your microphone on please it's on it's on I'm just meaning back that's a staff question I believe you understand what I mean for the entire parel yeah don't don't we have to put the two together under a PUD have two separate rezonings into CL which functions as an overlay district and I'll just further the planning right that's exactly what it's going to eventually it's going to be one parcel right that's what I was yes yes when it come for development will be one parcel and we have the overlay with the plan unit development with the underlying residential R3 so when are we going to it will be one par yeah in the future after they get organized well they still have to go to the city commission you know to get approval of the future land use and the resoning and after that I believe you're going to submit you know site plans you know to go to development approval as a p you good Mr Wells yeah okay all right do we need to handle these four things as separately or yes all right um Miss West for the sake of motions since they've been defined in this case can we refer to partial a and partial b or do I have do we need to read the partial numbers can refer to parcel a and parcel B and let me just point out I know you guys are sick of it but the amendment to the Future land use map is quasi legislative in nature however the rezonings the last two are qu judicial in nature let me know if you have any questions on either one of those thank you and don't forget to take public comment I'm not I'm wait I'm just waiting on everybody to quit their thing is there anybody in the audience that would like to speak to or for this or against this seeing none I will move this back to the board um we'll stop start with the annexation of partial a you said I didn't need to read the numbers okay into the city of Baca Municipal boundaries do I have a motion saying such Mr chair I move that the board approve the annexation of partial a into the city of plaque and Municipal boundaries I second have a motion in a second any discussion seeing none all those in favor say I I I all those oppos see motion passes unanimous unanimously Miss CR okay we're moving on to number two amendment of future land use map for partial a from putham County urban service to the city of Paca residential medium density make a mo go ahead a motion to amend a future land use map for partial a from putam County urban service to the city of Palaca residential medium density I'll second have a motion and second is there any discussion seeing none all those in favor signify by saying I I all those opposed he seeing none motion passes unanimously thank you moving on to resoning of partial a from putam County residential one to the city of Pak Paka M multif family residential R three with a planned unit development overlay is there I hear a motion make a motion for resoning of partial a from putam County residential one to the city of Paca multifam residential R3 with a plan unit development overlay I have a motion to have a second I'll second there any discussion all those in favor please signify by saying I I I all those opposed saying none motion passes unanimously resoning of partial B from the neighborhood commercial ca1 c1a section to multifam residential R3 with a planed unit development overlay for the entire parcel is there do I hear a motion make a motion for resoning a partial B from the ne commercial section to multif family residential with the plan unit development overlay for the entire par we have a motion do we have a second I'll second there's a motion and a second is there any discussion saying none I would ask that all those in favor signify by saying I I all those opposed seeing none motion passes unanimously thank you very much we're through with that move on to uh case PB 23-19 Mosley Heights preliminary plat Mr chairman commissioner this is a request to subdivide a track of land into six residential lot and review a preliminary plat for the purpose of developing six single family homes on each one of these Lots uh the the property is currently vacant it is z r1aa and the intent of the applicant is not to request a resoning or any change in the future line use so we remain the same we have reviewed the prelimary pl against the the code requirements uh we have listed in the staff report the ones that are relevant and pertaining to to this application and based on our review we are recommending a approval for the preliminary PL subject to a few conditions that are list in my staff report and I can go over them one by one the first uh the first condition is that all utility and drainage Isen if there is any and I couldn't find one must be shown in the plat also in a common area cited in the Declaration of Covenant must be shown in the plot it's not shown now and the general notes in the plat number six they should replace the face the county with the city of palaka will not accept liability on that number four submit proof that all current property taxes have been PID number five submit a title opinion of an attorney at law license in Florida and finally the last condition is that the applicant will be required to Bear dispense of a third party license value to review any fining plat submitted based on that we recommend approval subject to all those condition being Satisfied by the applicant and the applicant is here today and he might they might address the the planning board to the applicant yep there she comes state your name and address for the record please ma'am Toby mcgan 153 bransom Road Green Co Springs um is there any questions about this plat I know we've seen this a few times so I think now we finally got it where it needs to be um there were a few things that were on here about like the utilities and drainage easements and we had gotten with the city and the drainage can I mean I'm sorry the utilities are available and we can put them in the RightWay we don't need to have any ements and then as far as uh drainage we had originally planned on putting those lots up on palmaia and we have sold that property so that's not even part of this plat anymore so we don't we didn't need to put that pond in anymore so that we don't need any drainage ements as [Music] well um I remember many many moons ago when we had this first conversation there were a lot of complaints about pacy and it sounds like you've addressed that another complaint I remember stuck out to me was the width of the Lots or the frontage um where did we leave off on that they're they're in compliance now they were 70 foot because I thought that the zoning was r1a there was a misunderstanding with the overlay map from the property appraiser and we have now made them 80 foot wide okay I think one of them's 90 right there is one that is 90 yeah 190 the rest of them are 80 foot okay we're not really taking nope kept it nice and simple hopefully yes for Mr wall uh same thing with this plant it's a going to be a replat not whatever it's called on the preliminary because you spell it out that it is a part of these Lots so it's a rep and this is the one where you've got in your Legend of your preliminary plat you've got I I think you mean building the switching line but You' got to call something strange or I think it's strange can you go to that erl say again building relief line yeah you don't like it to be called that building relief line I didn't know what it was if there's like if if if Mr speak step up the microphone please if there's a terminology that the board would refer to for the uh setback lines I can call them setback lines building setback lines restriction lines building restriction line most cases I've never heard them told building relief lines because you got to be relieving something restriction you said you said restriction right relief or restriction which would you prefer you got to know what they are and I don't think if you ask other surveyor what a relief line was they'd be able to tell you they're called backs in Mr speaks Mr speaks me favor just say your name and address yes this is Steven speaks and my address is 120 rree Woods Trail pla Florida 32177 thank you building setback lines yes you do as long as as long as it describes what the purpose of the line I got you I got you Mr I appreciate the fact that you care thank you me too I'm not I'm just saying yeah I'm not I'll talk to you later I know that's what I'm scared of that's exactly what I'm scared to out to the Whi and shed we go you got anything else to allow any more questions from the board you okay thank you very much Mr chair just I neglected to mention that uh they have if this is approved today they have six months you know to submit they final the final plat yes okay all right I'm going to ask uh Mr ree to step forward please state your name and address for the records it is it my name is Mary Reese I live at 2509 Fairway Drive in patka um this parcel is just around the corner go down Fairway turn left and it's at the corner there of Edgar and Mosley and I'm glad to see that um this has been redone and that the original almost double the amount of of housing that was proposed was uh was not approved this is much better but what I'd like to ask is a request from the Planning and Zoning Board that um moving forward any Builder that comes in look and make sure that that they're looking looking at impact studies and what this is going to do to the you know the surrounding neighborhood um how far back the houses sit so there's some green space there it's just not right on right on the road um the traffic um the builders came in and just cut down all the trees there was a family of red fox that lived in that area and found found one dead on the on the corner there one day um they had been displaced and that happens all the time but there was no reason to to clear that land the way it was without even approval of going ahead and developing it so I don't know if these things are anything that can be done but just a request that that um Builders look at what's happening to the neighborhood where they want to come and that they are good neighbors as well um it's just left an ugly sight there the way it is now I'm very um happy that things have been changed and that there are only six um units now that'll that will be built one going out onto Mosley which is right down from the golf golf um cart I have a um I was going down mostly today and guy was on his phone not paying attention in one of the golf carts and ran right out in in front of me um it's a it's a busy little area people walking back and forth with the pool and whatever so um one extra car or two extra cars for one home won't be that big a deal but um all the ones that were proposed before were I'm um happy that things are there are conditions set um and that that um I feel a lot better and I wanted to say thank you to the board for for doing that and and that's all that that I wanted to say good thank you very much um Preston Bartlett okay if you pass you pass okay okay well you say right now I'm just saying you pass you pass this is your chance to speak Preston Bartlett 1521 High Street pla my concerns are the um where the entrances and exits of this property are going to be where did Speaker or yeah I can answer that question okay go ahead SE of the lab will have Frontage along hm and one Li when to have front end access on mous Le there are six lots and they all going to be like I said HB going to have six frontages how far are they going to set back well let me just point out to you also to the to the board this is just a preliminary plot we're not reviewing the the development itself of the single family home that will come later and once this flat is approved they will submit a side plan approval request and that will be reviewed Again by staff and by the planning board and the city commission you know what type of homes they're building uh I I could maybe you that question is for for the applicant just look all around 50 houses wait a minute wait it's not from the chairs okay you got if somebody would one of y'all want to speak to that Toby mcgan 153 Brian's kro grink Co Springs um you can go to our website or I can give you a list of addresses um there's the one 2400 Lundy road on the corner and then the one right in front of it 2401 Fairway I think and then those two houses we built and then we built one down on Brentwood on the culdesac there that was a side entry garage little Zoe so yeah if you had any questions just call me look on a website I'll pick up the phone I just don't want to see like those wedge houses so we're going to build what's going to sell and most people that are on that size lot are going to want a two-car garage you know 1,800 21100 foot house thank you yes sir thank you anybody else would like to speak to forward against this project yes m uh chair just very briefly to address one of the comments we have recently enacted an ordinance here in the city of fla to now require that even if you're in residential zoning you do have to get a permit for tree removal that's a recent change and so what happened on this site would as of the adoption of that ordinance a couple months ago would no longer be legal in flco very good thank you okay anybody else yeah bring it back to the board yall have any discussion Mr Wallace yeah I Echo and I can't remember her name already the ladies M re opinion back there uh I catch a lot of grief for being the tree hugger don't BR and I I would like to see more of than the minimal what I call a builder package for a house put there as far as Landscaping goes because it's a desert now and it wasn't just a few years ago it was a nice wooded area and it was clean good to BU those out okay any other yes sir Mr B Mr Wallace that is something we can address further on in the plat process when it comes back to us so you won't get plug in ear fair enough fair enough any other okay do I have a motion on case PB 23-19 Mr chair I will move that staff recommend the approval of the proposed preliminary plat subject to the applicant addressing all the comments listed by staff um and the one correction notated earlier by Mr Wallace um what was that specifically set setback lines the correction for the the verbage used for setback lines a second I have a motion in a second is there any discussion seeing none call for all those in favor say I I all all oppos seeing none it passes unanimously thank you very much how am I go about this Mr chairman this bring us to our last item sure this bring us to the last our last item today and is a this is a presentation uh by Monica Dominguez from the northeast Florida Regional Council uh this is the the final report draft final report of the city of palaka vision plan the city uh contracted the the council last year to prepare this vision of the city and she's going to be presenting to you the result of the of that visioning process and just let me point out to you that this the intent of the vision plan is to serve as a basis for the update to the comprehensive plan that we hope to be embarking right after approval by the city Commission of this this visioning plan um good afternoon uh planning boards and members of the public um my name is let me just it do I point somewhere Sunny oh um my name is Monica Dominguez and I work for the northeast Florida Regional Council and I was part of the team that helped to implement this project along with me today is my colleague uh Robert Jordan um GIS Regional planner also uh Cassidy Taylor and Jack Shad were also part of this team but they're luckily on holidays right now um so um you're familiar with the northeast Florida Regional Council we've done work for you before and one thing we wanted to tell you is that um we don't really tell uh cities what to do rather what we're here to do today is to tell you what we heard during this year-long process through numerous engagement efforts and our role typically is to help small cities um realize their planning and their visions and their goals so um the comprehensive uh the comprehensive Plan update is a state requirement and the last time the city of Paka updated their comprehensive plan was in 2008 um as uh Mr ago uh said the comprehensive plan is somewhat of a you know often referred to as a like a constitution for a city so if you it's a planning document that allows the city to Envision where it's going and then it's a binding document for everybody in the city so it's extremely important to first have a vision and that's kind of what we worked on um for today's meeting um we will I I will share with you the results from the public engagement uh meetings and the online survey I will also present to you uh the uh draft vision for the city of Paka and then I'll also um because along this process we've had two clients we've had the city of Paka that will be undertaking the comprehensive Plan update but we've also had the public Who provided engagement you know a lot of public input and that's how we came up with the vision so we'll provide you that first part um which is um you know how we organized over 1300 comments and how we created themes so then you can take it the city of Paka can take it and then uh update uh your comprehensive plan and then um at the end we'd like to ask you um did we get the vision right is there anything else that you'd like us to add as I mentioned um this has been uh you know this program uh the the plaa vision um has had eight public uh meetings and an online survey that ran for 13 weeks um this was at the request of the city staff and you know we tried to post meetings across the city so Jenkins Middle School Ravine garden centers uh St John's River State College we even had um a popup booth at the blue craft festival um and then the the numerous meetings like such as this one who that are public meetings as well so moving on to the survey results so you'll we as part of our survey we wanted to identify who was participating and at our first kickoff meeting one loud comment that we heard was in request is involve the youth the youth need to be involved the youth need to tell us what they think so if you look at the age breakdown on the people that participated in the survey 49% of the participants are 17 and under which is very unusual for for um for a survey that's related to a comprehensive Plan update and the reason for that is because we sent uh a request to the palaka Junior and senior high school as well as the St John's River State College and then we sent a couple of reminders throughout the 13-week uh time frame inviting them to take part in this exercise that defines what Paka would look like the city of Paka will look like in the future so we're very happy with the responses from the youth um we also asked people to identify where in the city they lived so um that peach orangey area is the city of pakka and we got um in or near at 229 people and then we had 123 people outside of the city boundaries but still consider themselves of the Paka community that also took the survey we asked uh participants to tell us please provide a word or a phrase that describes your vision for the city of Paka and we came up with a word cloud that um that gave us a pretty interesting Insight of what people think about the city of palaka so for example the word growing you see that it's a little bit larger and that what that means is that a few PE more people used it than for example equality it's a smaller word so less people used it so what you'll see here in this word cloud is um the bigger the word the more people used it and so you'll see it's I mean it's a little bit of everything you have the report and you can look at it uh I think also uh you know there are some funny words kind of related to AG which we really enjoyed um so now getting into the survey we asked uh participants what do you like do you like historic design do you like contemporary design and what we found is that age really defines style in this case the General survey said that there's a strong preference preference for historic design however if you isolated the youth response they preferred the Contemporary design and they put much less youth put much less emphasis on preserving historic structures as well um something that ranked really high was tiny homes garage apartments and in-law suites now there was also a preference for the cities to incentivize private developers to build affordable housing and then there was a desire for more affordable smaller housing units that may be suitable for higher density but interestingly interestingly enough people Express the liking for a low density look so kind of putting all these thoughts together smaller housing units can help to maintain the character of a neighborhood while maintaining the demands of affordable housing in general people want more amenities they said that people want Parks passive Parks ranked the highest among the Community Development elements but in general all parks ranked High um passive Parks active Parks communitybased resources like a community center and an active Waterfront so again this confirms the community's desire for more amenities people also want more additional river access the youth their response is isolated they preferred motorized River axes the General survey showed a preference for both motorized and non-motorized people also want diverse commercial development now there was a preference to incentivize commercial activity that promotes diversity both in shopping and employment when we dug into this a little bit more responders Express a desire for reactivating the mall or improving the mall so I think um you know and this is part of attracting major retailers to that space and also developing a movie theater people want more public art and cultural events mostly in downtown but in any neighborhood across the city they are open to it so I put a couple of um you know art and both uh events that happens across your city now something that ranked really high for us is um that score the highest actually out of any kind of preference was the was Street lighting people both we received lots of comments and it scored really high for a preference to have more Street lighting um and there's also a preference for pedestrian and bike friendly infrastructure the people of Paka also expressed an interest to conserve the natural environment this included conserving wetlands and H an interest or uh a liking to biooils now bios swales are non-traditional looking infrastructure if you look at the picture in the right um you know it doesn't look as quote unquote manicured they contain Florida wild plants and can look a little bit Wild Wilder but their function is more than just grass um but also to help uh the you know the filter the rainwater and such and people like that now moving on um to the draft vision for the city of Paka in the word in the word cloud you may have remember um that there was the word pride and I think through the comments we could tell that the Community Pride Pride was a constant theme and Paca residents love their city but want to see the Improvement of the existing town and so that oops excuse me that focus on infill development is that improve the existing Town also and I've put quotes just to go with every slide of comments that we got from people there was also um the theme of um to reduce flight uh blight and encourage new affordable housing support for historic land uses so there was an interest in adding more housing but without large scale apartment buildings um unless it's along the commercial commercial Corridor um and this also is to encourage traditional building forms that can increase a affordable housing so we're looking at structures like duplexes quad s and garage apartments support for historic land uses now this speaks a little bit more um about allowing mixed use projects along commercial roads so on the left um hand side the picture I think it looks you know like uh you know some of your storefronts here in Paka and I wanted to also show you an example of what they've done in Key West which is also a commercial Corridor but then in the second floor of uh of the of the units here it's residential so it's just a way to mix um you know uh residential with commercial high quality public spaces is something that we heard now there is a theme to focus on all neighborhoods reduce blight and encourage Rehabilitation and Redevelopment so kind of like the picture on the right and improve parks and the waterfront following with the theme of uh High public high quality public spaces we noticed that um people were put a lot of emphasis on historic uh buildings and so the theme is to conduct a his this is more of a recommendation but to conduct a historic survey on the remaining neighborhoods because what's happened now is you have a historic district but there's properties that actually are now eligible to be historic buildings but haven't really been surveyed outside your historic uh Center um area so I think um you know this map gives you kind of a good understanding of what's out there for you to survey Department of State has a great program for this and then multimodal infrastructure um I think there was a lot of comments and themes around supporting infil by improving multimodal infrastructure what does this refer to walk ability and bike ability adding bike paths and trails wherever possible now your CRA plan has recommendations around increasing connectivity through sidewalks and Trails um and you know create shaded areas for people to enjoy walking and I think this just sort of takes it follows that recommendations and takes it you know um Citywide not just in the CRA in terms of multimodal as well um you know one way to encourage future Transit is to support walkability now and so it's in a way it's you know I think it's sharing the road with everything a bike a car a scooter you know what I mean and giving accessibility to all those who want it public transit so those are the themes for the vision and then this is the part that I think helps um we hope that it helps the city or whoever updates your comprehensive plan so we had over, 1300 comments and so what we did is we started putting them in themes that made sense to whoever the drafter of the update of the comp plan will be can take these comments and start comparing and contrasting so what we asked is we made a summary of the comments and that's um in the report that's the appendices section um and we said is there a corresponding objective or policy in your comprehensive plan and it's a yes or a no if yes we've identified which element and which objective it belongs to and the policy and then we've added a little bit more context under the notes if it's a no then obviously it doesn't have an element objective or Poli policy but we we provided the the spirit of the comment and what it how it was you know to give it a little bit of context for whoever updates the comp plan and that's are two different products the vision and then this objective policy corresponding Vision comments um and so that's as promised I ask now of the planning board if we missed anything if you'd like us to consider anything else is there uh um anything you'd like to add before it goes to commission staff I don't see that last slide she had in our packet if we could get that to us that'd be great uh you mean the table corre yes yes we'll provide yeah thank you actually that's very very helpful for us you know when we're going to do the update to the comprehensive plan you know you already identify you know which element in the comp plan is what jective our policy effects you know so he going be very very helpful did you yes please you miss trees Street trees are very important and you know not not just down St John's Avenue but you know other places this a't meant to be a silly question but we do still have a tree committee is program in right okay very good thank you couldn't tell could you I can be it's a committee this is a board so you're allowed I'm allowed the commune in the board I'm I'm not busing at all it's valued one fo from perspectives that other people don't share and like our downtown you know you talking about I but um we we we pushed hard for years and years and years because our downtown was commercial you you could have offices which they tended to put all the profession offices upstairs and Retail but we push for years and years and years to get it so that you can we we have residential upstairs and we have retail on the bottom but nobody's taking advantage of Charter's place over there you got yes but that was for the or I think originally put there for the kids out of Community College there no house but U you know it we finally got it done but it's just sitting there [Music] y any other comments okay thank you for your presentation thank you and if um if something comes up later on um you can I still have the email active that we put out Sonny can you help me move the slide um one more please um towards the end um I have an email um that I we created for this project specifically which is Palaca plan at nc.org if you would like to you know we still have some time actually before we present to the city Commission in September so if anything comes up please send us an email I I I monitor that email thank you okay thank you very much any of the board members as we come to the end of this thing do you have any comments or anything you'd like to address F in general Corner 19 20 when they built the service station R yeah R uh we required they put a artwork and you're probably the only one Su that around no I remember that you yes sir we they put piece of scul there simar to the fish down it wasn't a piece I believe it was several pieces that they were supposed to put there very retive and you know it's still not there yes sir there's a old blown out Tire on the corner I don't know maybe they installed that guy that sits right out there on the center concrete piece no this is a different total different guy but anyhow could you check into that for us I look into it okay yeah because they were I mean you know it's just like the the station that's at the corner of ninth and Reed they you know they they were supposed to have had trees there and they put them in there and they let him Di and pulled them out and then the little um they they for their for their Landscaping to meet the ordinance they took and cut about six or eight little holes up against the back you're talking I was just fix say you're talking about the liquor store yeah okay I'm talking about the one across the street that's the sitco station or whatever Mobile station they were supposed to have done that and then the liquor store was same thing you give us a list of the property so we can review the resolutions and the conditions ma' yes ma'am and we we got something in the landscape Orin that says you got to maintain yeah but they put vermil they cut those holes and put some veril in there which don't like sun anywhere okay and now we got six or eight holes going around the store n it's on the Southeast corner of the ninth and readed across the street the Mobile station the Mobile station at the corner at the northwest corner of n Reed and they've actually gone in and cut they had some beautiful CR around there and they cut them down and think they're all gone yes sir they are yep okay thank you can you make sure in our landscape orance that it still says maintain it because like that yeah that is a requirement they have to maintain it a common thing Walmart they put Landscaping in the parking lot but never maintained it they came that is a co- violation you know they don't maintain it it's a co- violation so that have to be referred to code enforcement told you were crazy oh I didn't say that out loud did I okay anybody else on the board got any staff do y'all have anything that y'all would like to address or something uh no I don't have anything M what thank you okay all right thank you very much can I have a motion to jour uh real quickly I just want to thank staff for all their efforts with we got a lot of growth and development that a lot of people are excited about and it's creating a lot of work on y'all especially with the revision to a comp plan coming up yes so thank y'all for what you're doing and sunny as well with that sir yeah no nope not even close with that I'll move to a journ we are a journ