##VIDEO ID:Sc2KZURYlnQ## yes okay it is 7 PM we're calling a school committee meeting for October 10th to order um we have one remote participant so we're going to have to do a remote a roll call intruction be roll call today as well so let's start with uh Sarah here Ain here Carla here Tom here both Sean and shock have to give their regrets because they're unfortunately were both called away on business in an urgent in an urgent manner so apologies to all of our guests here as well with that regard um quickly running down through the agenda uh then we can jump in um so we will start with our um public comment if anybody here in the public wants to speak anything not on the agenda um you're welcome to do so um we then have our focus on Excellence which is our National Merit Scholars and that's what of our audience members are here for and we're we're happy to celebrate you and the Excellence that uh you have achieved we'll then go through our consent agenda and vote on multiple different grants acceptances minutes Etc um a lot of donations there really encouraging uh related stuff that's happening in that space um we'll move on to reports uh and we forgot to notify of the student but nobody's going to object to having a student report as well on our on our reports um so we'll go through that we'll then move to to Old business which is um to vote town meeting guidance on the Fieldhouse floor and bleacher Capital plan um anybody paying attention that was voted at fincom last night as well but we wanted to add our two cents since it's a school related event uh and then new business um we have the 2024 mcast result review um which will go through a bunch of areas and we have the ace committee discussion and assignment and at that point we will adjourn okay all right um so let's start with um a call for any public comment does anybody wish to say anything anybody on Zoom wish to say anything and we don't have any public comment on Zoom so okay we'll move on to the consent agenda and we will actually not that to our focus on Excellence the National Merit Scholars so Dr chess you want to start all right good evening everyone really nice to see so many folks here tonight to celebrate and recognize there are 2025 uh National Merit Scholars so we're thrilled that we had uh nine National Merit Scholars and also one National Merit semi-finalist and we are excited to recognize and celebrate you tonight I make sure those who are watching at home get a chance to see some faces to the names of those who achieved this uh extremely high academic honor uh if you're not familiar with the National Merit uh scholar program uh the National Merit commended students are those who were in the top uh 2 to 3% of Nationwide uh test takers in the PSAT which it gives us in a pool of about 32,000 students Nationwide and we also then narrow that in half for the National Merit semifinalist we have one tonight with us too who's in the top 16,000 and will continue on in the program to potentially move on as a finalist as well uh we would you know on behalf of all of us just like to congratulate all of you on the tremendous academic accomplishment uh which you know not only is we think just one metric of your success we know reflect so many years of dedication and hard work in commitment to your studies uh and it's a point of Pride for not only for your families but for our entire Community I hope that you also thank those who supported you in your Journeys too your families around you and also all of your teachers who are part of uh helping you to be so successful to this point too I didn't tell you this but when I call your name I will embarrass you a little bit by ask you just to come up to the podium if you could just share your name if you could share anything that you're involved in at rmhs whether that is a you know Club sport activity uh pathway anything and then also anything that you'd like to share about uh postsecondary plans we don't need you to say a specific school but if you want to say you're going into engineering you plan to study computer science at this point you still don't know uh I think the community would be really excited to see sort of what some of our uh students are up too as well so I'll just call you up one at a time we'll give a round of applause and you come right up to uh here and I have a certificate uh from the National Merit Scholarship program uh that we will hand out after you get a chance to share a few words so first up just as a point of logistics because people to see them they need to be over here so can I suggest that those of you that are National Merit Scholars and commended come up and stand over in this area and then one by one as Dr mileski calls you you come to this mic and and do your present your name and all that kind of fun stuff that perfect it's even more embarrassing I was going to say he really wants to put you on the hot seat he just upped it we really want to showcase Your Excellence if you're willing to do so so you know that if if those of you students if you wouldn't mind just come on over here separating a little bit from the parents for the time being and then when your name is called um do your little intro that that Dr mileski asked for and I appreciate Mr wise's making sure that you're visible to there are a lot of teachers who sometimes will watch at home and will be really excited to see sort of you up here being recognized so first up to to the hot seat let's call up uh Vivian baitman so Viv you want to come this will get on the camera Vivan thank you welcome hi I'm Vivian baitman um I'm the president of the school's Band program and I'm also the president of the science team and I'm the strategy lead of our school's robotics team um and I plan to major in Biochemistry College awesome congratulations thank you next up Leo dedri um hi I'm Leo dedri I'm on the soccer and the swim team at rhs and I plan to major in electrical engineering in college awesome next up Kira Hart hello I mean I'm Kira har I'm in The Improv Club at school and also the president of the GSA and the co-president of the school's Dungeons and Dragons Club I plan on probably majoring in Neuroscience in college awesome Alistair lions hello everyone I'm Alistair Lions I'm the current programming lead on the school's robotics team the robocats and I plan on majoring in computer science awesome next up Erica Malone hello my name is Erica Malone I'm the drum major of our school's marching band and a member of science team and mock trial team and I plan on studying data science in college Rose Moran Rose we'll give a round of applause for Rose as [Applause] well all right Eli Shank uh hello I'm Eli shank I'm a member of our school's improv team science club or science team and I'm a member of the rmhs drama club I plan on majoring in either astronomy or astrophysics in college nice next up Katherine steppler um hi my name is Kate steppler um I'm part of the the soccer team and I'm the captain of the winter track team I'm also the president of bridging generations and the co-president of girl rising and um I'm planning on going to college and majoring possibly in economics or law and Quinn Senate hi I'm Quinn Senate I'm a captain of the soccer team I'm president of the choir program I'm class vice president and I'm a member of the drama club and I plan on majoring in Psychology in college awesome and then last but not least uh Sean Hoffman and Shawn is our National Merit semi-finalist so Shawn does not yet have a certificate because we do not know yet if that'll be a semi finalist or finalist certificate as well too so uh hi everyone I'm Sean Hoffman and and I was recently chosen to be an officer of national arm Society here at rmhs and I'll probably be undecided in college but we'll see where life takes me so I think we'd also just like obviously what a tremendous academic accomplishment but even more than that hearing you speak about all the ways that you are involved and leading in our community just makes your uh involvement and your leadership that much more impressive so congratulations uh I we have when you come is to come on up in addition to your certificate to come have a a picture with us and then we'll be able to uh send you along and congratulations and continue to thoroughly embarrass you yes come on down in front and parents will be ready for a picture if you want to V please come down in front as well L Mr also yeah let's do two RS a little bit of El good job thank you need more good TI [Music] like that would be perect all right anybody left one two three okay thank you [Applause] congratulations I know Clint because I'm quiet [Music] s you want to move you want us to [Music] move the fut is really the future is very brightening to everything going to do we're going to solve problem brain from a psychologist and neurologist perspective it's a really good comment though like when we see like the world we live in and then you see there's hope to give them a second to clear out then we'll get started after that going give this to you okay let's um move on to our consent agenda now and we will start with a motion then any discussion so Erin motion to approve the consent agenda seconded by Carla okay any discussion or questions on the consent agenda none I have a couple of quick observations as I was going through this so some good some bad all I mean it's all great that we're getting the grants but in terms of just comparison I was looking at it year by year so the um the Department of Health uh Grant well it's $90,000 is $21,000 less than last year right um the Meco Grant well it's $815,000 $699 it's exactly the same amount as last year which in essence is a budget cut for us um you know the title uh title four Grant of 10,000 is is exactly the same as well the title one Grant is $33,000 more so there's a a small amount of increase there the um Ida um which I assume is 262 the part C Grant is about $200 more if I go down the list here the regular idea uh Grant is $223,000 less than last year presumably because we have fewer kids qualifying um which might be a result of some of our regular educa regular general education stuff um we have about a thousand less for title 2 as well um so that was you know as you go across that grant numbers are dropping um which is a good sign because of why they're dropping in some cases and a bad sign because it's a financial challenge we'll have to work our way through so just FYI um and then I just wanted to also acknowledge and thank the administration for the follow through on the Quebec field trip related questions that we had in our our last um uh full meeting on the in in September okay just make one quick comment on that um sure go ahead let's just say two just to make sure those who may be watching not familiar with some of those grants that sort of a lot of most of those are out of our control in terms of the the amount of funding that we get on those I think Tom's making a point of maybe uh so we are as aggressively as we can pursuing grants too and most of these are grants that sort of our a formula based of sort of uh various information too so make sure for those who may not be familiar with some of those you know more uh ongoing grants and to piggyback off of that we did um Tom Tom and I and um along with um Curtis went for the Meco Grant where um Meco headquarters and a bunch of leaders in the area um went to um do a presentation to our delegate to to advocate for not for more money um at least to take inflation into account unfortunately it didn't happen it didn't happen but we we tried yeah that was over I think there I'm still waiting on the answer what happened there I've asked um I'll keep pressing um but it is what it is so okay um no further questions and we'll do a roll call vote um just real quick any further questions or comments all right seeing none Sarah yes Carla yes Aaron yes Tom yes um thank you to all those who have donated and continued to donate um I like the photo the photography stuff that's happening that's going to be an exciting class that's going on there as well so all right um moving on to our reports and while not listed I'm going to ask our students for a report so Sachi uh start us off uh okay hi it's nice to see you all again I'm really happy to be back um so yeah uh for starters just updates and upcoming events we'd like to start by first thanking the PTO for the new tables on Main Street uh with charging stations for students thank you um uh withing stations for students and for their commitment to purchase um an additional set of tables for the other side of Main Street this will serve as functioning seating for students throughout the school day during lunch and after school thank you thank you um and then after that we have um on the 10th which I believe is not today yes it is today okay uh sorry um so tonight we actually have the financial aid night for rmhs which was this evening uh put on by the school counseling office um on the 23rd of October we have the PSAT during the school day for grades 10 and 11 test takers yay me um and then we have on the 29th the national Honor Society induction ceremony the 31st term one grades close um at the beginning of November term two begins report cards will be published in the portals on November 8th November 15th there will be a virtual parent teacher conference um and from November 22nd to November 27th will be Spirit Week very excited um and then some updates like for me specifically uh student advisory met today for kind of like the first time where we actually discuss issues we have a lot of new members I think last year we only had about like 12 I think now we have like 20 all across all four grades which is fantastic we have so many New Perspectives one of the big issues we were talking about was AP classes for underclassman as we struggle um to compete with other colleges uh I mean sorry not other colleges other high schools um because there students are allowed to take AP classes from freshman year um and obviously getting into college is very competitive nowadays so that was a big thing and then aside from that was the modern classroom approach which is a new approach that's been taken by teachers where basically um they upload videos it's very self-paced it's all self-paced actually they upload videos um give you packet work to do um and you basically work on that in class there are very like lenient deadlines Mastery checks and a lot of students were very unhappy with the way that that's been going for them I myself being one of them um so that's one thing and then uh oh just a fun side note this is like completely irrelevant but I started a hen Club at school it's meeting tomorrow for the first time um we got like 40 people to sign up we very excited and I was recently asked by um I think one of the heads of the Meco program if I could make it to the Meco events to do Hannah for people there so I thought that would be a really amazing super fun experience so I thought I just mentioned that so yeah that's it for reports I'm going to ask a naive question what's Hannah oh so the hand yeah so it's basically a middle eastern SL widely popular I think more popular in India and stuff or that's where people know where it's from um that's like made from plant and uh sugar and it's very all natural yeah um no chemicals and you it's kind of like a paste that goes into a cone tube and you put it on your hand and do designs and you wait until it dries and then you wipe it off and it leaves a stain for about like one to two weeks so the club Only meets once a month but it's just meant to be like a really relaxing thing each Friday mornings at 8: a.m. you could come listen to music there'll be munchkins and you can learn how to do henna yeah that was the main like enticing all M um so yeah well great um can you talk a little bit more about your challenge of the modern classroom yeah so okay so from what I heard from a lot of I think there yeah sophomores um is that for their history class and this was widespread like they were very they were getting getting 20 Page packets at the beginning of the week and it would be they'd have to annotate and read it and um and then they'd go into class and the teacher would be like oh work through some uh questions with your partner um or whatever and there would be no answers like the teacher would not go over those questions whatsoever so they didn't know if their answers were right so when they went to go take the Mastery check which is basically kind of like a a quiz um on the material with like I want to say three to 10 questions um they the only like knowledge that they had as to whether they were right or not was based on their notes and because the teacher never went over those notes they had no idea whether they were right or wrong so taking those Mastery checks students were not doing well and unfortunately I think specifically for this history class it was like out of Five Points so you start getting threes or four out of five points and those tend to add up for the quarter and they tend to like lower their grade quite a bit so that's a big issue and then in my personal experience I'm taking AP phys one this year um which I'm like totally interested in physics like it's not like a you know I don't want to take it but I found that um uh he uploads videos and I really struggle to grasp the content and remember it because it's all like part of unit in one week and it's like do 1.1 this day there's a loose structure to it and I think what a lot of students are really struggling is like with is like how to retain this information because you do one assignment like one day and then you take the master you check the next next day and then that's it right um yeah one of I think big struggle is just we're not learning like not hands- on whatsoever it's all self-paced students are struggling with accountability accountability is an huge important skill for students to learn but um I don't know if any of you know clar Healey but she was talking about how like for her you can put the work off for a day but then that starts to build up and that starts to like really burden some students the amount of work so what we said were there definitely some pros being self-paced if you're a fast learner um it's really useful for you you can get ahead but for people like me who tend to understand a lot better when it's being explained to you when there are in-class discussions about the material when the teacher is teaching it to you and you can ask questions IM me immediately um it's definitely a struggle so we were talking about how we can find a happy medium between that because it benefits some students and it really hinders quite a lot of other students but the general consensus was that it seems to be doing a lot more harm than good even though it has its benefits so yeah thank you for the detail and the answer and you choose you choose these classes so well first of all I had no idea it was going to be structured like this but yes so I chose to take AP Physics one I also chose to take a few other APS this is the only one that's really structured like this um and I had no idea that it was going to be structured like this so you chose the content you didn't choose yes I didn't choose the teaching Style delivery method yep okay any other questions for Sashi I think it's valuable feedback to get that kind of feedback I'm sure dark scalan was eyes eyes and ears wide open as as you were going through it absolutely I do want to emphasize though like I what we were saying was we completely understand like this might be a lot easier for teachers because then they get a lot more time during class because students are just working on the work that they posted um they get a lot more time in class to grade work to plan I don't know future online lessons but but I think when it really comes down to it is are the students learning the material that they need to be learning and are they remembering that material so that it can be used for I don't know I have to take the SAT this year if my math class was structured like this I don't think I'd be able to retain this information to take the SAT so it's kind of just become this issue of like can we retain this um are students like really learning the material even though it might be easier for teachers so yeah I think that's the big issue okay great thank you for the feedback yeah hearing such to you maybe helpful at sometime to the high school can come speak a little bit about sort of what you know the modern classroom you know work looks like what that you know how it may be different it might be important for the Community Hall here too and if anyone watching tonight wants to learn a little bit more it is uh not just an rmhs thing in some Pockets but it's also you know see Nationwide Google the modern classroom you can kind of see learn a little bit more about the model that sa's you know talking about so you know kind of some of the pros and cons too so appreciate you sharing that feedback and uh and also maybe we can then commit to bringing some of the high school leaders in and talk about that a little bit and some lessons learned and things like that too yeah oh we also did just hold elections for board members to come here so you guys are going to have three new faces coming hopefully um so yeah besides me and Tama who are the like board members from last year so awesome awesome great okay so um moving down the list Dr Hardy good evening everyone uh two quick updates uh the first one's really quick I just wanted to let everyone know that we have received in the individual student mcast results we are in the process right now of putting each and every one into an envelope and our hope is to get those mailed out to families around the 18th um we're working our building secretaries are busy supporting this work um and we will get those out to folks very soon that will have detailed information for families about their individual child's performance tonight obviously we're going to talk in Broad Strokes about the districtwide performance the other thing I wanted to ition um is to let you know that we have launched one of the professional learning initiatives that we had talked with you about in the spring and this is in the form of having literacy leaders at the elementary level we have 16 teachers K to five uh who are have taken on this role and what this means is that they are coming together um at regular intervals over the course of the year and receiving more intensive training and in particular thinking about about as you know we've talked about this many times when we've implemented the arc Core Curriculum in literacy it's not just about that material that we're using it's about the instructional shifts for teachers and how they're teaching literacy and so this work is really to provide all each of our schools with a a a small group of teacher leaders who have even deeper training in the instructional shifts who also can work together to help calibrate across School schools and across levels we had the first meeting this week um and we are breaking it up so that right now K to two teachers are working together and then three four and five are working together um I had the privilege of sitting in and wow like so amazing to hear our teachers articulating um how they are instructing students in literacy what their questions are about formative assessment how that relates to the particular skills that they know their students need to master um when they're on grade level if there are students that are struggling or even for our students that are coming in above grade level so we're really confident that this team of teachers is going to be helpful in um sort of helping us take the next step with Ark core now that we have a solid Baseline of implementation we're really ready to go deeper and this is a strategy that we're employing is to really train teachers as leaders and are we using Hill for literacy as part of that or are we doing what's our implementation plan AR Arc coach is running this because it's not disconnected it's not um curriculum agnostic we really are looking at like what are the particular skills that we're seeing that are taught and then how are teachers Translating that into practice okay any questions no Dr meski just two thank yous to our uh two operation departments in the district first a huge thank you to Our IT team uh as know we've been navigating it outages and then the uh corresponding uh restoration process like to thank by just starting by thanking Julian Carr for his leadership in this process I think that he's been working tirelessly to make sure that we are up and running as quickly as possible and smoothly as possible uh with a you know kind of high stakes for everyone too and just really appreciate his work his leadership and thank the entire it team who have been working behind the scenes to do everything they can to get things back up and running for student staff and for the community so uh it team and Julian we really appreciate you in your leadership uh the other group I'd like to thank is our uh uh our food service team they as you know this year is the first year that we have free breakfast for all students uh across all of our schools just in the month of SE we expected I would say when we had sat down the being of the year maybe 60 to 70 kids per uh per School per day to be launched uh we're excited to share that we had close to 14,000 breakfast is served throughout September uh and then this the number continues to rise so uh I think the food service team is doing a great job keeping up with that increasing demand which is going up by the day I'd say they're also doing a great job keeping up with USDA regulations which now limits the amount of sugar in both yogurts and cereal in terms of what they can have so kind of Shifting menu offerings to align to those regulations and also continuing to shift uh kind of what's offered for for students in a way that makes it you know both healthy and engaging uh and align to students interest too so huge thank you to Food Service team they're doing an amazing job launching that program and a and building it as they go too okay great any questions for Dr meski add one you can add go for it um kids are actually really happy with the food that's being served like I was talking to people about it and they're saying it's so much better than it was last year and that I also like got breakfast this morning with a bunch of friends and it's been really good so just like positive like yeah people really thank you for sharing that good stuff okay um moving on to leison and subcommittee reports and we'll start uh virtually with Sarah no report no report and Carla I will just highlight for um kilum there's three Community meetings coming up um October 23rd it is on um the site and Community use so people can come and listen to it's 7:00 they're all in um writing public library and we'll talk about Community use so how the community can utilize that space in that building as well November 4th it's on on traffic everybody's favorite topic um traffic flows and December 9th is on sustainability so sustainability is the big talk now um for the next few months okay are there any big decisions coming up no we will be doing a presentation for fincom just an update um in a couple of Wednesdays the next I can find out what they are looking for um and then we are um by I should say by October 30th the msba is going to decide if we are going to be able to move into the sustain into the um schematic design phase of the project so um we have no reason to to um believe that won't happen and they don't either we're we're kind of going back and forth with them right now on questions they have from our last PSR submission so they just send us back more information and and we're supposed to get them answers back um this week as well so um we're we're on target we're on schedule for everything great yeah thank you okay Ain um I was going to talk about that but I'll let you go ahead and talk about it so no report so first things first is to acknowledge that dyslexia that October is dyslexia Awareness Month um and as part of that um in addition to just the greater need for understanding the right to read um next Tuesday night um CPAC the school committee friends of reading Meco and uh reading cultural Council are sponsoring and supporting the viewing of of the award-winning documentary The Right to Read um that will start approximately 6:00 p.m. here in the back um and it's registration requested there's a QR code on the the event that we posted on our school committee page the CPAC has posted it I think me friends of rning mecho has sent it out um dakot dyslexia just posted on their page today uh some of the other special education related sites have sent it out we've heard from North Andover special education Lexington special education um and a few other places so hopefully it'll be well attended I know some of it at least one of if not more than our than one of our local delegates will also be attending that event um following the the viewing we will have a panel of experts to discuss the topic um and work it through uh kathern Tarka who is the director of literacy and Humanities at desie will be here as one of those members Mike morard who is a board member on the Elementary uh Board of Elementary and secondary education and probably one of the most vocal voices for uh reading in particular the science of reading uh will be there and we'll also be joined by Millie uh ARB Thomas I'm probably mispronouncing her last name ARB Thomas uh who is the president and CEO of Meco um so it'll be a good combination of people with different backgrounds and different perspectives to talk through the video uh and of course we'll open the audience to questions afterwards I'll be moderating that panel as we go through it um so really looking forward to that um and it would be a I think it's going to be a really great event overall um I also will highlight that in November um Dr Hardy and Dr stce I think will be coming in to talk a little bit through some stuff that we're doing in the district to help and support and raise um uh reading across our district some of which we'll probably talk a little bit tonight as well as we go through some of the uh related uh mcast materials so there's kind of a followon type event there that's going to happen as a result of that too um so that's that um in addition to that uh fincom last night um voted uh unanimously 8 to0 uh to support 3.5% uh use um or allocation of free cash which amounts to $5.8 million to the operating budget for 2026 from a 2026 budget perspective um and they also voted 8 to Z to support um one of the Articles we're we're reviewing tonight as well the Fieldhouse floor um so that was great as well so okay all right um moving on then uh um we will move to said old business and start with the uh the town meeting guidance on the Fieldhouse floor in bleacher Capital Plan update and Dr mileski great um the presentation over here is the mcast one I think if you just minimize it it should be on the desktop okay Fieldhouse floor there it is me to click through share screen okay do you got this great sorry eron you're fine all right thank you um all right appreciate having the opportunity tonight to speak uh briefly about the rmhs Fieldhouse project I'm also joined tonight by uh Joe Huggins director of facilities Joe can you hear us okay yes I can perfect um so a little bit of context on the the project we um here we go uh back in April town meeting uh debt was authorized at 1.7 million to replace the Fieldhouse floor and bleachers at rmhs uh we did share at that time too if and through the design process we explored other options that ended up being a more expensive but what we thought was a preferable option then we would come back in front of town meeting in November and ask for additional funding uh so over the last couple of weeks uh this was introduced to uh select Ford select Ford did not have this presentation when the time when they had had made a vote on this uh therefore myself Joe others put together this presentation you know presented this last night at fincom and then had what was unanimous support from fincom to uh Joe and I will be presenting this back at select board a few of them had asked if you come back before and share the same information that you're sharing both with fincom and with select board too so we are here uh because we at this point uh have a a um a a different design outside of the 1.7 million which would be the like and kind for the Fieldhouse floor so Joe and I tonight are going to Joe will give an overview of where have we been during this design process what are our options and I'll walk you through sort of why we are narrowing in on wood Maple as the preferred surface so Joe do you mind walking everyone through a little bit of uh of where we are sure so like Tom said we originally um came forward with the estimate uh of $1.7 million to replace the floor um the the Center Court the track and the bleachers in kind and when I say in kind with a similar product that is just a newer version of what we have out there right now um we also uh at April town meeting um let people know that we were going to be looking at some other options and one of the other options was uh looking at a higher quality uh Center Court um which would be either uh which would be the in kind or which we are leaning towards which is the uh the maple um we've been doing a lot of research Tom himself and the athletic director have traveled to different places to look at different products and one of the challenges with this product project is that the um in order for us to put a Maple Center quarter in there or any other any other Uh Wood style surface the entire Center Court of the Fieldhouse needs to the slab itself needs to be depressed down at least one to two feet um which is quite a quite a process to do that and then then build up um the uh hardwood floors you know the sleepers you know everything that goes underneath up level with the track around it so we went around and we were looking at several different schools and um that had a similar um type of thing and the M the maple seem to be the most make the most sense uh other than a synthetic wood floor the reason it carries more money is that depressing the center cord itself carries a big number in that in the price um you can imagine what we're going to have to do is demo the bleachers demo the floor cut the center cord out and then um dig down and then um then there's going to be a period of time we're going to have to wait um while the concrete cures and then go back at it and then begin the installation so that's the reason why this this price has uh escalated primarily is because to go with the um a maple floor we need to depress the slab we also looked at another option which was in fact not depressing the Center Court but rather building putting the Center Court on top of the existing slab but as you can imagine that would be that Court would now be sitting up higher okay and then we'd have to build the floor up to that and then at all the doors in the Fieldhouse we'd have transitions going out which would not work for us because we'd be encroaching in on um runoff for the courts as well as the track itself so that's why the option we're looking at is to um to press the slab to put the maple flooring in there um what we have now like on this slide you're looking at right now is foam back vinyl which is um you know a different product and Tom's going to get into what the benefits of what we have now as opposed to the a uh the maple floor so that's really where we are and also I should mention that the [Music] um the uh bleachers will be getting replaced as part of this project that are ADA Compliant which we what we have now is not ADA Compliant so that's what I have that's where we are and that's and that's and that's the reason why this is partially taking so long is because we've been doing a lot of research and getting everything in line to make sure that our design is spot on Joe I think one of the other um historical questions we've had about the floor at the Fieldhouse was water right underneath the floor water was was creeping up and underneath So the plan here is going to address that issue as well as part of the Reconstruction of it yeah part of the project will a big part of the project is to demo the existing floor shot blast it fix any cracks in the slab that we find and then do a a waterproofing of the existing um concrete and then begin the installation of the track and then also then the cord so that's the moisture mitigation that we're going to do I believe uh that the existing surfaces would probably have lasted longer if that had been done during construction of the original project but fortunately it was not so we are doing moisture mitigation got clarification on Center Court as well Jo I'm I'm thinking about Fieldhouse we have the track around it and then you have what would I would consider Center Court which is the main basketball court but you have essentially three horizontal basketball courts that are smaller that go through the center Court more is a four um so are we talking about basically the entire basketball the entire court area inside the track we talk just the main the main large court it's going to be depressed the entire court which is around 7,000 square feet the whole entire thing and and we're we've involved the athletic director as a matter of fact obviously he's going to be heavily involved in the project they were out here last week taking measurements um to make sure things line up with the existing uh uh backboards and everything like that and final striping and everything like that and logos and all that will be run through the school department so that the end product comes out the way we want okay you just said on another topic that was a bit of a sore thumb when it came to the football field the logo are we actually going be able to get the r with a rocket instead of just an R I'm I'm gonna push for it I don't know why we didn't get the football field for that I mean I'd love to have it back on the football field at some okay thanks Jo and I'll be honest that Joe and I have not versus me I know you are just little little details like that make a difference in the moisture issue go ahead Joe right now we're designing right now we're we're continuing to design as though we're going to be replacing it with the more expensive version um if this doesn't go through you know town meeting we can always pull back and and use an in the in kind design but we're moving forward like we're doing the full-blown uh um you know the more expensive version the construction documents the bid documents should be done sometime early December um and then we will be going out to bid um if everything goes as planed which it should um sometime right after the new year which is a great time to do that because you want a line contract is up for the summer season to do this what's what's the construction duration um we're talking about and and we've already blocked off the Fieldhouse all of June July August and into September we're hoping we we've had discussions Tom and I have had discussions Tom M with the architect about um any opportunity we get to accelerate the schedule we will we're hoping to be done sometime mid September on this um and it's also understood that there could be graduation going on in there so weather you know depending on the weather we actually have the start date mapped out the Monday after graduation so yep we have speaking of that and other potential uses do we have any potential election to think about in June From kum's perspective vote something to consider at some point right whether we do it the in the Fieldhouse or whether we do it at Town Hall but there might be something to think about that might address that timeline too so okay sorry Tom and Joe keep going thank thank you Joe uh so I think Joe shared a little bit about why the um the would the maple service would be more expensive given the depressed slab uh I'm going to speak a little bit too in terms of why you know we are recommending the more expensive option too I think the first thing i' just like to emphasize which is known for the the community is that this is the the Fieldhouse get a ton of use right field get a ton of use during the day for our students in PE class after school for our athletic teams who use it consistently whether it's unified cheer dance basketball volleyball indoor track plus any day with inclement weather you know is a is as u a lot of student athletes in there and then you know is also rent it out consistently usually every day up till 9:30 p.m. and even on the weekends during a peak Saturday of you know reading wreck basketball Jim Sullivan you know uh estimates that there's between five and 600 players and they're using it so I just want to make sure as we go into talking about safety and talking about durability we're keeping in mind the uh the you know the wide amount of users and also the consistency where this gym has used which I think heightens the need for us to invest in a surface that is the safest and the most durable surface which I'll get into right now too um I apologize this slide came out a little bit weird on Google Slides too uh but the summary of this slide is that you there's we think that the difference is between investing in the wood slide and invest I mean the wood surface the wood surface and the uh foam back vinal uh mainly come down to three safety factors and three other factors which we call Quality factors which I'll get into tonight last night at fincom Joe and I were joined by uh Rob beler from uh FJ Roberts uh Sports surface he came on was able ble to speak to a lot of like the technical pieces too so if I will do my best and Joe will tonight to speak to some of the uh technical pieces on the surface but if you want to go back and watch last night's video it might also add a little bit more depth to some of the things that we'll talk about tonight and I'll channel the feedback we got from last night to kind of open which was feedback from Joe carahan and Maran Downing which said if you led with the feed the um kind of the headlines of us wood is going to last potentially two and a half times as long and it's something that's to be significantly safer for our community right it seems like it should be something that is an easier conversation to be had but let me talk through some of the safety factors first so one of the main factors looked at when looking and assessing Fieldhouse or or floor surfaces is shock absorption uh you can see sort of having an ideal shock absorption percentage of 50% uh is ideal and comparing the foam back Vine of the wood athletic pretty significant difference of 22 to 33% absorbed for pH back vinyl 46% for a wood athletic why this matters um our consult so FJ Roberts and other sort of research shows that this the shock absorption ties most closely to or connects most closely to uh overuse injuries too so if we are the the better the shock absorption percentage the uh better chance we have to reduce uh overuse uh injuries that a lot of our student athletes have been nagging with this is not the factor that deals with really the catastrophic injury which we'll get into in a minute other surface obviously uh energy return um wanting in in FJ Roberts and categorize the energy return on a foam back vinyl surface as okay versus very good on wood athletic uh if you see that kind of on the previous we were talking about shock absorption you can see that even if there's like an imbalance between shock absorption and energy return so like even if something's pretty high with shock absorption and energy returns not there it's going to be like the experience of running in sand right so it's not only which obviously that has an impact on both the quality of gameplay and safety too so they were saying that while you obviously want a high shock absorption percentage it's also important that there's a high energy return as well to make sure you're getting optimal PL optimal safety with all of that said the factor that matters the most to me and I think the factor that matters the most to others in the field who I've talked to is elasticity um so uh surfaces are you know kind of on a spectrum it's not either you know is it area is it binary is it area surface or is it a point surface but generally on the Spectrum with wood representing the the top of the top in terms of quality of a area surface foam back vinyl being more on the point side but also not on the extreme end of one of the of that Spectrum why does this matter uh so uh you'll see kind of the top bullet so uh AA elastic floors are preferred for Pivot Sports basketball and volleyball uh research shows that uh when you have a uh uh higher level of elasticity better elasticity that's the factor that reduces catastrophic knee injury or catastrophic ankle injury uh the reason being sort of what you look here kind of on the couple of the bolts what happens to your foot when you're pivoting into the ground right is your foot feel like it is stuck then you're trying to Pivot if someone comes down from a rebound is there any give if someone's cutting or turning is there any give or does your foot feel like it's stuck now talking to our coaches here uh both basketball and volleyball coaches unfortunately some of the recent knee injuries that we've had have students have said or the videos have shown it feels like if someone is stuck right that feeling that and that's the the thing that concerns us most so I would say we want to invest in a surface that we know has the is for us an area surface which we know uh is best will give us the sort of the best quality in terms of elasticity that kind of gives me just a kind of backup on the the safety factor for a minute too is that I've had people say well is our current surface unsafe right what I'll share back is that I know that we have had probably like any Community you know overuse injuries and catastrophic injuries on our surface probably like anywhere I can't sit here in a you know and attribute those one to one for that being the the floor being the reason for those injuries but what I can share is that I feel like we have the opportunity here to invest in a surface that we know is safer for our student athletes there is a clear def difference in terms of the uh the safety level of a wood surface versus a foam back vinyl surface that's what you'll see here that's you'll see if you do any of your research on your own therefore given some of the challenges that we have seen uh given the opportunity to be able to invest in what we know is the uh a much safer surface this is an opportunity for us to uh be able to ensure our community that those participating in our facilities are working on the safest of surface and have the best chance to uh avoid injury if at all possible three quality factors that we to don't that don't have to do with sort of just the the safety which you know kind of Court handles rolling loads better so if for rolling out equipment that needs to be able to someone get up on a lift to be able to fix something up in the on the roof uh those surfaces are going to be able to better handled by wood surface uh they'll be able to hand hold up a little bit better against some of those non-athletic activities that have you know heavier you know kind of uh weightbearing Machinery um other Factor uh is then again I talked about safety is durability we think we're going to make an investment we want to make sure that there's something here that's going to last you'll see that we can safely assume that a foam back vinyl surface would last about 20 years versus a wood back a wood athletic surface that would last close to 50 years um last night Rob beler from FJ Robert shared that there's no reason that that could number couldn't be 70 or 80 years with a wood surface if it's wellmaintained I said if it's well-maintained that gets into what I think are the couple of the drawbacks of the wood surface one it has higher annual upkeep to make sure that it remains in good surface than a foam back vinyl surface wood Joe and the team last night spoke about how they do maintain surf wood surfaces and many of our buildings they feel comfortable that they able to do that but it is a higher level of Demand on our facilities team other thing two spots that you know I think are especially you know uh dangerous for a wood surface one Tom you hit on wood on on water leakage any sort of catastrophic water uh you know flooding would be really difficult to navigate on a wood surface especially when compared to a foam back vinyl surface uh so that's sort of one thing he mind and the other thing which we talked about last night at length was humidity too so it is in surfaces where you cannot control the humidity as well a wood surface is more susceptible to of or buckling when compared to a foam back vinyl surface now FJ Robert and Joe would both share that sort of the biggest factor in being able to control humidity is being able to get air moving and Joe and the team feel like in the field hell floor while it can get hot in there they do have the technology in the equipment to be able to move air relatively well um also last night we talked about how if this qual if the surface is installed well at the front that will limit the impact of some of the you know challenges you may face in humidity so it's not only managing humidity but it's also ensuring the quality of the installation right up front and then last but not least on another uh option or another benefit I feel like from the uh wood surface is just the Aesthetics uh we are a community that takes great pride in our facilities where a community takes great pride in our athletic programs uh our community programming out of the 11 other middle sex League high schools 10 out of the 11 uh currently have are in the process of putting in a wood surface so this is what we would believe is sort of the norm for a high school of our size of our stature of our competitive level and think that therefore given the pride that we take in all of this sort of all of our facilities this is sort of aligns with what we think the quality of our programming is the quality of our our facilities are Joe outlined up front the difference between the 1.7 and the $3 million cost uh just like to emphasize again the primary reason for this more expensive option and US recommending this is the safety risk and the safety and uring that anyone who uses our gym is using the safest quality of you know the the best quality of floor uh secondly we feel uh encouraged by what we believe would be a much more durable surface and one that would last much longer to allow us to gain some more return on our investment as well I'll turn over Joe just if you want to chime anything that I missed and then we'll open up to for questions I think we're good I think you pretty much part everything all right any questions from the committee that we haven't already asked just a couple couple for you Joe um in terms of um roof leaks are are those have all those been fixed do we have any issues right now with um with water leaks in on the court um that's already being taken care of I mean the roof is uh 18 years old up on the Fieldhouse and the main building um and we are we have a service contract with a roofing contractor that comes through and does rent of Maintenance every summer on the on the roofs before we get into the winter season we just did it last uh last summer um we're planning on doing another big PM up there um in the um late spring of of the Fieldhouse roof the roof is in good condition I will tell you that but like any flat roof in New England you can you can get water infiltration but we fixed up immediately we're on top of it okay and then can you just outline just quickly what the maintenance requirements like what do you have to do for maintenance FL the gym Flo that we do have in the district at a wood um depending on which floor it is and depending on which building depending on the use um some get refinished every single summer some we have on our every other year program because of the use is less something like this I would imagine is going to get done every single every single summer which is going to be basically not sanding the floor but re just screen giving it a light screening and recoding it every summer um and then on top of that as part of the project we're going to be purchasing um mading that will cover the entire Center Court we're going to have to do that especially now because we have foam back vinyl which is a little more resilient in terms of you know with voting going on out there and everything we cover the floor for a lot of larger events like robotics but we'll be covering this Maple flooring uh more frequently now with this new matting we're going to be purchasing through the project that's what made me think of it like people who um who rent it over the weekend like what are the restrictions we put on them of things they can or can't do on the if it's an athletic event I can tell you that you know obviously they don't allow any cleats in there and things like that if it's anything we don't allow and we have not allowed for a long time people putting tape down on the floor to tape lines down because that can pull the finish up so um in the rental agreement there are uh restrictions on what they can touch in the facility and that's one of the things we would not let people touch um Kevin gersner who is our facilities manager for the school department has a good handle on you know the use and what you know what things they can bring in and what they cannot bring in we would never let anybody bring anything in there rolling anything heavy across the floor unless and this is with the current system unless it was protected so um we're on top of that pretty well thank you other questions I don't have a question just comment go for it um so this is no-brainer for me I mean um I think it can't be emphasized enough um the volume of students that access this you know I dropped my 12-year-old office there tonight because his basketball league practices there two nights a week that's one 12-year-old team um so I think you know basketball is no longer just a winter sport it is year round um and I imagine that the majority of kids in the district have a reason to to access that space at some point or another um I'd like to think if the select board had access to this level of detail um that they would get behind this as well um and I'm confident that the town meeting will as well so I appreciate the time that went into this presentation um because you know you you start off with 3 million it's like what why did it nearly doubling cost but the second you lay it all out um you know for all the reasons the longevity the safety the safety um I you know I would really love to see this done this summer so thank you okay um Joe Tom thank you for the time and energy uh put into this um looks like we have one question coming up here in a second um just real quick uh another topic we talked about that is make sure the public is aware of will be things like what kind of hard balls can be used inside the gym as well right so if it's used over the winter for say baseball or softball practice then they have to change the balls they use it won't be able to be the hard balls they use so that's another kind of material purchase that we're going to have to go through as a district from an athletic department perspective but anybody else who comes in would have to make sure they adhere to those kind of restrictions as well right absolutely okay um Dr corm you said you look like you have a question or a comment uh Jeffrey cor Ridge Road uh just hearing again that that going down two to three feet are we confident that we won't hit any ledge or anything there won't be a problem digging down that far underneath Joe did you hear the question no I did not I couldn't hear him okay his question is um since we have to go down two or three feet are we confident or do we have any concerns about hitting any ledge or anything else that might raise the cost to to blast anything out there or you already mentioned you're planning to blast well what we're planning on doing if we're going on this route is we're going to do a test Bo behind the bleachers first of all to confirm how thick the slab is what we think we know how thick it is right now but you know the drawings are from 19 70 I want to say in the 70s so we want to test and see with that how deep how thick the slab is and once we start going going into it they're going to be saw cutting the slab and then probably using like a a an attachment on a Bobcat like a almost like a h Ram or something like that to break it up it's going to be quite noisy in there while they're doing this but that that type of work won't be happening until after the kids get out of school so okay I had one more question thinking about the water issue um is there anything we can do or are doing since essentially it's at ground level to prevent any sort of like six 60-year flood type stuff where the water's coming up from the abona there into the parking lot and over the over the top of the the the ledge there is there anything we can do to to do any sort of water prevention of flow into there that we could do to protect that the only time that FL blooded since I've been in W was it back in 2006 it was it was in May of 2006 um few months after I started and ring and the Fieldhouse floor flooded out and the reason it flooded out is all the area drains from the new building had not been tied in completely so once that was all tied in um we have not had any kind of flooding problem down there now that's not to say there could be you know some sort of 200e storm that rolls in or anything like that but we've seen some pretty serious weather over the last 19 years that I've been in ring so I'm pretty confident we're in good shape I remember April 2006 my house and I walked down in my basement and had three feet of three feet of water in my house the first day I moved in so I I remember that storm I remember all too well nice way to get yeah okay um all right so any other questions or comments okay so we put this on for a vote so we could provide guidance as well to town meeting um uh with this topic so I do note that the article does not spe specify any any specific dollar number has there been any conversation between you and the town manager about that and is town meeting going to be told this particular dollar number so in the materials that I think are going to be published today it's going to have the $3 million number in there too that was discussed last night so Sharon was updating that okay so then I'm going to move that the school committee vote to recommend Article 15 which is the Fieldhouse article um with the updated number of $3 million to town meeting second seconded by Carla okay any further discussion all right let's go to the ru call um and starting with Sarah okay and Carla yes and Aaron yes and Tom yes it passes for to zero so thank you gentlemen we appreciate it um thank you great work and getting this stuff together have a good night everybody thanks Joe right okay so we will now move on to the next topic uh in our agenda which is new business is the 2024 mcast results presentation and I think um Dr Miles you're going to start with this one as well is that correct I am and do we have the updated one yeah great thank you perfect all right well uh switching topics from Field House FL to mcap don't have a smoth transition sport Sports and academics come together all the time around here you go listen to We welled we're well-rounded District let your foot stick yeah the next one we're going to we're going to have a performance come up here soon and do a little song and dance so we'll be good to go savvy so I wasn't that creative but excited to share out uh 2024 mcast District level data review so tonight I'll be speaking for probably just about 15 20 minutes of an overview of some of the data in your packet you should be able to find a ton more information with an appendix of data and also so on des's website you can also access a lot more data too couple of points I want to make before I dive in and I I would emphasize this if our results where I felt were positive or we're not as positive this is one metric right this is if you look at that at the student level the school level the district level this is one measure I think of academic progress so we want to make sure that we emphasize that and I'd also like to emphasize too that there is uh in any large scale assessment there's going to be things that we are or hopefully there's things that you encouraged by and also areas to grow and I think you'll see that tonight that will'll be sharing some things that we think are really encouraging and points to recognize and celebrate and some things that we know that we have to commit to making sure we can turn around and improve to so uh with that I'm going to lead with what I think uh are like the the four positive headlines that I think I am encouraged by just to lead with those quick and then we'll get in the book of the presentation first thing I am really encouraged by what we're seeing with student growth um so you'll see before I like name this specifically if you're familiar with the metric SGP basically what happens if all of us scor scor a 200 you know 240 last year then we look at now that's our like performing peers then we say what percentage the next year what percentage of students did you outperform who in that same pod of like performing peers 50 average growth right we're really encouraged that RPS was only one of 16 districts across the state to have all three School levels so elementary middle and high school with sgps above 50 in both math and Ela wow which I the reason why I think that's encouraging the fact that you are seeing high growth at scale right not just at one pocket of the district not just Elementary just high school but again all grade levels in across both conton areas and again one of 16 two we're excited about some of the things that we're seeing uh in math right we know that the district has made a lot of Investments over the last decade in math uh in curriculum now more recently in coaching and professional development we are excited that elementary students set a district record in math achievement with 66% of students meeting a exceeding expectation which continued a four-year trend of ual increases in achievement I will share not only is that our obviously that's our district record but also like to recognize that shatters what was we were pre pandemic which I know has been a challenge for a lot of districts to get back up to that pre-pandemic level in middle school we are not qu quite there with where we were pre pandemic achievement but with an SGP of 59 which for those you who follow this Clos is a really high SGP and increasing our students in meeting exceeding math by 10% from last year uh or 10 percentage points we feel like we are getting closer of pre-pandemic levels and uh on an upward Trend so really encouraged by what we think is some of our investments in math are really starting to pay dividends and student achievement Parker really excited to celebrate Parker so Parker is one of four middle schools across the state to be named as a school of recognition this is for High student growth and achievement and I want to contextualize this with where we were last year so if I go back go up a couple of slides you'll see here and I'll have to admit to the commity I was just told I need glass so this is really I was stubborn for years and I haven't they all know I haven't bought them yet so this is this is making that very public um2 what's that 62 so I think what we wanted to emphasize was last year so in 2023 one of the things that we were excited about with the data was that six of our eight schools set school records in school accountability percentile which I'll get into what what that means but that's generally a metric that combines both growth and achievement and a small amount of chronic absenteeism for six of our eight schools to set school records in one year was really encouraging for us last year there were two schools that did not set school records one of them was coolage if you can see coolage they went from the 94th percentile in 2022 to the 90th okay that's one they were pretty high right there's a that was one of our schools that didn't set a School record they did set their School record in 2022 the other school was Parker which when you see Parker is in the 62nd percentile last year when you compare all of our schools last year so going down the list 89th percentile 87th 81st 92 92nd 88 90 uh 62 and then 85th there's a pretty significant difference from where Parker was last year at the rest of the district which now seeing Parker jumping back up to 76% uh percentile is really encouraging I would just like to give and I the reason I'm encouraged about that is I think that there was uh I think Parker is a great school I think there's some really great things happening at Parker and I don't think those student achievement data reflected some of the great you know teachers that we have or some of the great things that we have happen in the building and I'm excited that uh you know last year they had such significant increases and I think the staff is confident that they are going to continue these in the years to come so kudos to the the Parker Community too and you'll see there's a lot of schools of recognition uh for elementary school level but I think you only see one or four at the middle school level one because there's less middle schools but two if the Middle School's hard sometimes to kind of get things back on track when you see sort of a regression in student outcomes as well so kudos Parker staff this is probably the one I'm most excited about and I'm most excited about for the future uh so the headline being the district's young we did we made these not chat GPT but District's youngest Learners set the bar high with top percentile scores in Eli Ela and math you know that we would like to be and I think every commun would like us to be a district that achieves in the you know 90th 90 something percentile and that's not always where we have been in achievement um but our grade three students performed the 95th percentile in ela achievement which is awesome in 998th percentile in math compared to 320 State uh Statewide districts so that puts them they were seventh in math achievement on 320 and 17th in ela we are excited about that because we know that there's some great things happening in our elementary elementary schools there's been a ton of conversations up here around curriculum around assessment around various interventions screen there's a lot happening at the elementary level and we feel confident that the work happening there is sustainable for this to kind of become the norm of the level of achievement and not just a sort of an anomaly with one cohort so we think the future is very bright and as you know if you get students on track in third grade you know the researcher them what that looks like for their future trajectory so this for me is the one that I am probably the most excited about um so in kudos to all of our third grade teachers and all the Early Education teachers who contributed to this too so now away from the headlines back to sort of what the presentation's going to be tonight um first we're going to can give some context around the results what are we seeing Statewide how does this compare to maybe what we've seen historically in Reading I'll give a couple of the highlights which I just gave you the kind of the overview headline talk about some of the areas of focus for our district and then open up to questions for uh from you all as well first uh piece of contact Statewide results so again this is not reading specific you'll see the next two slides Statewide this slide Ela next slide math the state likes to compare we had a couple of webinars the state like to compare to how do we do when compared to last year but then also how did we do when compared to pre pandemic I think if you look at sort of ela unfortunately St Statewide there are some I would think sizable drops in the percentage of students meeting or exceeding Expectations by grade level compared to last year and still a major gap between where students are now and where they were pre pandemic which is obviously really concerning to me some of those are abysmal some of those are abysmal really concerning right um that's a I I think that's a when we talk about the data side I share the context for one of two reasons one when we see some of our Positive Growth it is you know some of that's different than what we're seeing Statewide but two like the work that Tom's leading and the team like like with the advocacy next week I mean there's a lot of work that has to happen Statewide to make sure that we are getting our students back to level of proficiencies where they proficiency where they need to be math you know the drop offs not as significant as they were in ela by grade level you know generally looking around like one percentage point and compare to 2023 but still the gap between where our students were are now and where they were pre pandemic is alarming um so that's across the state that's across the state yeah that's that's a those are abysmal numbers we don't have 50% of our kids at any grade level across the state meeting or exceeding in the math mcast the same Ela too there wasn't one in ela either above 50% that's ridiculous so we have work to do Statewide I talked about I talked about percentiles this situat I just show this just for people to be able to situate where we are uh as the community looks at those numbers here's the The Waiting formula you see that there's a column for those who have the uh El progress indicator and those who don't in all of our schools we do not yet have enough students to be in the category with the uh El progress indicator we are close for this year so our accountability formula May shift next year but for this year our waiting is the waiting on the right with so without data for the El progress indicator uh and that was just broken down for high school and all my school a little bit of context sort of on Where Do We Stand then looking at sort of Statewide achievement we broke this down by grade level and then what what number we are out of blank districts across the state I've already shared with you grade three we are 17th out of 320 in ela 7th out of 320 in math I think we're in car I'm going to skip grade four for a second and come back to that we are really encouraged I think again to be in the range of 20 30s 40s we go grade five grade six and then we obviously know that those numbers sort of you know go up in the 50s and 60s as we get to eth and 10th grade uh we feel confident if we can get all of our students at higher levels of achievement at younger grades that will sort of we believe that we can continue that on now fourth grade sticks out right I think fourth grade sticks out because you say compared to the state like there's a significant gap between where we are compared to the state in third grade fifth grade sixth compared to Fourth and we agree I would also like to name the note in the bottom which is interesting is last year we were last year we were uh as third graders we were 123rd in ela and you see now that we are 73rd and and then last year we are 96th in math math and this year we're 83rd so there is while those students have made up some ground compared to the state while you'll see while those students also had sgps above 50 still that Gap was pretty significant so we also recognize there's a lot of work to be done with that cohort of students to make sure that we can get them on track sort of before it gets even more difficult as as time goes on because that that cohorts in a much different position than our third grade cohort the other thing we uh like to do is compare ourselves to our 24 fincom comparable communities we know we talk a lot about State comparisons we think these communities are probably more like us um you'll see this on the left hand uh on the left hand side so on the the y axis looking at you know both either high school middle school or elementary school and then across the top across a couple different variables Ela scaled score which is achievement Ela SGP student growth math scal score again achievement or math SGP which is student growth you can see that's our ranking in bold in that category compared to the 24 communities um and then the number in it and the number in parentheses is where we were last year so generally I would say I think it's fair to say we're falling in the middle of the pack generally give or take uh in terms of both achievement and growth in math and Ela by all grade levels in comparison to our pin comp comms so some of the highlights again I shared uh quickly talked about some of the highlights on student growth percentile just to pull out a couple of pieces of data on that too all of our levels above sgps above 5050 in ela and Math middle school math at an SGP of 59 which is a pretty significant increase from 43.2 which is a number that we are not okay with in 2023 and then again um one of uh 15 districts to have sgps above 50 both math and Ela we looks like we copied that one twice we're really proud of that one again um but again encouraged by the growth that we're seeing from student Souls level you can see that when you compare this slide comparing that over time if you want to look at historical Trends but I think generally this looks more positive than maybe where we've been in terms of student growth we really like the numbers of having sgps of 56 and 58 respectively in ela and math sgps for our elementary schools and I'd also like to give a couple of shoutouts you see in bold uh on those those are historical records so you see Barrow set a historical record with math SGP and also did wood end would end with an math SJP of close to 70 which is really astounding yeah but if you uh look back on wood end's fifth grade data there is a trend there in fifth grade data at wood end in sdp so um but those numbers of six sgps in the 60s is uh something that we're really encouraged by again similarly just breaking the sgps if you're interested to look down by this is not a school specific presentation but again if you wanted to see the schools uh high level SGP here too and again really encouraged by Parker's SGP of 61 uh Which is higher than really it's been over the last couple of years and also Al a School record and you'll see also I'd like to say some people will say well they've kind of closed the Gap with maybe where coolage has been I would also like to note that the SGP at uh coolage is still above 50 right so our students are still growing in a faster rate than their peers yeah it's a strong number y yeah um I put this in there more to for we put this in there for more of your like FYI we think there's a story to be told the time like all of like why getting the results that we're getting why are we seeing positive growth and student growth percentiles you've heard all of these time and time again the story of you know high quality curriculum the story of quality professional development leveraging systems and structures like you know effective teams peer observations um you know coaching and feedback you've heard all of those things before we added in some of those for you tonight in case you know for those in the community who are kind of just Mally following along but I don't think tonight we're going to go through all sort of the story behind why we think we're getting some of the results that we're getting there to math really encouraged by what we're seeing with math with the in elementary math SGP of 58.3 third year in a row with an SGP of over 50 which shows me that consistently we're getting high growth with what with the practices and the curriculum that we have in place now um that high growth is now starting to translate into high achievement which is what we want ultimately which I shared again a district record of 66% meeting exceeding in math in 2024 um and middle school math SGP of 59 were really encouraged by I think that the middle school did some really good work and I'd like to shout out Parker too for a lot of like standards alignment scope and sequencing and things like that that I think made a huge difference in uh the percent increase here in percent proficient and growth highlights of uh math you can look SGP kind of over the years if you'd like to see kind of comparison wise but those we haven't seen numbers like that the 58 uh for the elementary and the 59 for the middle and encouraged by you know kind of those two numers showing us we're seeing some good levels of growth I talked about historically you know where we were with Elementary but again Middle School we're kind of creeping back up to where we wanted you know pre-pandemic levels too and broken down by school you can see uh many of those schools set sort of recent records if you look especially in math in terms of percent proficiency I don't dare try to read those but I think it was three out of the five set recent records out you know compared back to 2018 so not only we seeing some you know improved achievement at the district level but we're also seeing that when you sort of break that down by school gu four out of five four out of five even better um and then math SGP is again a 58 and 59 sort of that skill we're really encouraged by as well again 64 and 69 yeah okay if you can see that better me if there's anything you want to call out go for it blind blind is a bat you're that's bad that's bad I told my wife I had 2020 before I went for the appointment you and I I told my wife I had 1220 before I went for the appointment so um and then showing the percentage of just us versus the state and percent proficiency while that me you know you know kind of the Middle School level's been a little bit wonky last couple years we see at the elementary level starting to widen that gap between where we are in the state and also this year a pretty significant Gap with where we are in the state too again not going to go into the sort of factors behind this I'm sure Sarah would love to talk to them tonight if there's given any questions on it but the same thing around high quality you know professional development high quality curriculum um I'll just before you go too far go back a second I mean we need to call out the math coaches in right I mean at the middle school levels in particular we've seen that as a big change from last year so that was an investment we made as a community to get those two positions we have not had them until last year right and we can see almost immediate results as a result the curriculum was the same curriculum that we had three or you know for the three years beforehand essentially right um so the only change outside of a couple of teachers maybe but I mean which is important factor too but the only big change institutionally was the math coaches yeah I I strongly agree with you there too and I think it's also a credit to our teachers who really embraced that role welcomed to the coaches in re receptive to that embedded PD and I do believe the results are due to that added attention that our teachers were able to receive conversations about the students in front of them and you know the instructional moves that those kids need it's a really different type of professional development from a standalone Workshop that doesn't connect to your daily practice right standards alignment was a big part of it too if I recall correctly from some of our conversations right and better use of formative assessments which we know is key that is something that we believe really strongly is the key to our success I I'm really glad you rais those points I had uh intended to speak about that tonight too because I think that that the math coaches if you talk to teachers who I was talking to eth grade teacher uh who shared that the best form of professional development that she's had in her close to 20- year career was last year having support from a math coach it helped her to feel like a professional and have a thought partner to support and she thinks that was a key contributor in her having sort of some of the results that we had saw here too um so and I also want to give them credit there's two of them across an entire District which is really I know Tom Lasher you had expressed concerns about how would we be able to sort of two people handle the scope of work across the entire district and quite honestly is not enough like I think with more we could continue to make sure these results are sustainable and build on these results but it is a it's really encouraging to see our return on investment so quickly so a huge thank you to uh to the math coach as well for their great work yeah Alysa Skinner and Lana Montero um and last kind of piece again I highlighted Parker but just wanted again recognize Parker too so for their uh you know significant increases in both percent proficiency and uh sgps sgps of 51 which we 51.6 which we think will go up with our sort of work this year in ela but also 61.7 in math which is really difficult to find that with a lot of middle schools across the state so congratulations to Parker for their work I think that's uh it's interesting comparing that historically for you know for Parker 2 if you this slide has both the SGP uh and Ela and math and percent meeting and exceeding for ELA and math as well uh if you are more interested in some of the work that Parker did last year we presented a uh president had a Pres last June of the school committee that outlined especially some of the instructional work happening at Parker and there are some lessons learned right there are some things around that we feel like we can now scale into some of our our other schools um so I think one thing in particular that we thought was some of our use of Title One funds at Parker that we are now trying to replicate some of the systems and supports that we put in there at kilum that we think will also kind of bear similar fruit to um and kind of Shifting Gears from what we you know know is sort of the some of the positive side of the data to some of our what are we focusing on moving forward um the two major categories for us are you sort of our overall mcast achievement and performance and then the achievement Gap let me start with the overall like achievement and performance it is sort of a a a sad State of Affairs for like State and for like you know to be saying we are celebrating 64% of our students speeding or receding expectations right that means that there's still 36% of our students who are not where they need to be uh same math you know 65% of students are meeting exceeding expectations 35 or not so flipping that or looking at the inverse I don't think that's a number that any of us can really be comfortable with uh also seeing that despite significant increases in sgps and I just want to emphasize here too I think those sgps are really high and when we look at those sgps also by subgroup you'll see similar sort of results in most cases that it had we haven't reached pre-pandemic levels in most continent areas which reflects that there's still gaps in skills that students you have our overall achievement and proficiency levels are still in the middle of the pack of kind of fincom comparable communities while we think we're closing that Gap especially when you look at our younger Learners we still want to be on the higher end of that so we have we have room to grow and again our commitment to uh having all students demonstrate Mastery we have too many students who are in the the buckets below so you'll see on kind of the following slides of you know further breakdown of sort of where we are not where we need to be whether that's by by you know by level whether you break that down on the next slide whether that is um sorry for the side so I'll get back to that one a minute or you break it down by school which you'll also see that there's spots that we obviously have some some gaps to close um as we look at uh kind of our where we are compared to the state 2 I know there's been Comm members to ask you know where are we with percentile ranks overall so grades three to five we were higher we had higher meaning the exceeding percentage higher than 89% of the districts in the state for both Ela and math and then the Middle School level you're higher than 88% of the districts in the state Ela and 85 in math um again we believe that we can be higher we believe that we should be higher we believe that we're on that trajectory but despite being in the 89th percentile districts ele in elementary there's so many students who are not where they need to be which um I'm going to come back to that piec kind of the area of like where are the spots where we're not seeing that level of achievement is like in many of our subgroups and you break that down so we know when we're talking about the achievement Gap we break it down like disaggregating data by lot of different demographic uh categories we see kind of this year while in most cases our sgps were above 50 in ela and math for our subgroups uh and in many cases some of these subgroups also set either historical records or uh kind of had the best Mark that they've had in recent years as an example all elementary groups had sgps above 50 in both math and Ela except for our black and African-American students in math and Ela and our low-income students in math and Ela all middle school students had sgps above 50 in math and most were above 50 in laa except for students at IEP and our Hispanic such Latino students and then so like despite what I think that's sort of more of a positive narrative you spin down the bottom two bullets high school subgroups did not demonstrate as high of a growth as the elementary and middle school students also despite sgps above 50 this is the headline to me the Gap in achievement between subgroups and all students has persisted and in many cases widened so if you look here like even I'll give an example uh if you look at our um okay let's look on with yeah you want this Tom here this can unplug yeah this why you have the big one you can unplug for a second and thanks um so an example of this right if we look at even something as our high need students on you look on the right had an SGP of 55 last year which is compared to where that had that had been as an SGP is the highest that it's been historically yet when you look at the next slide our high need students till only 35% are Advanced proficient um so it's like even though we had a pretty high SGP that gap between 35% proficiency and all students 66 is still pretty significant same with students with disabilities if we look at our students with disabilities with an SGP of 55 and average SGP in math yet still you translate that to a historical record and achievement still only 20% of our elementary students are on IEPs or immedate receding expectations so you can see why that Gap sort of even despite some encouraging you know Trends and growth it's still not enough to close the gap of where where we need to be similar Trend that we're going to see in middle school when you're looking by group I think the one that sticks out to me the most the most alarming is if you look at average SGP in math for our black and African-American students 62.4 which if you would asked me before the year our middle school students again a small group of only 27 of our black and African-American students would have an SGP of 62.4 we'd say we'd really encouraged but then when you look at what does that translate to our black and African-American students meeting or exceeding math expectations in math is only 11% so that's where this gets you know challenged even though we've seen some encouraging CH in growth Trends in growth generally these gaps in achievement are are persisting or widening in many cases and at high school it's a little bit of a different story we actually had some spots where our growth wasn't above 50 below 50 for some of our subgroups which is obviously you know an area of significant you know concern for us in are we need to have growth all of our sdps We Believe by subgroup should also be above 50 I want to talk to we're talk a little bit about kind of the last part is what are we doing around some of the Gap closing but I wanted to pause there is there any just qu people you know questions or thoughts on any of the data before I kind of go into that last leg of talking about some of the strategies to close some of those gaps that we were talking about Eric go ahead okay okay um what uh subgroup do um multilanguage Learners fall into so they are only on if we have a category that is uh above sort of 20 is the C is the number so in some cases and also we know that level ones don't take the test as well so in many of these cases they aren't represented I will say where they are you know part of the categories High needs which is students of disabilities MLS and any uh uh economically disadvantaged students but that's why you don't see a its own Standalone category okay and level one is their first year here or what is newer newcomer based on English proficiency generally your newcomer they don't have to if they arrive here in third grade they don't take the mass that year correct students first year in the country they do not take the but their second year they do they do okay um and I I know we we it would be too identifying but as a are you looking at in terms of the black subgroup black African-American are you looking are you breaking that out in terms of when those students entered the district we do we look at when they've entered how long they've been here um and in order to ascertain like have they been in programming here in Reading since kindergarten or are they students who started with us in ninth grade okay um and yeah because I I feel like that would impact likely those those scores you know all our talk of high quality curriculum if students haven't had years of that then um even so the numbers are terrible um and then students with disabilities does that include students who are doing the portfolio version and not taking the no no this is just just students stud took okay and that's part of a conversation of their IEP whether they qualify for correct that's a decision made by the IEP team okay any other questions I think Sarah had a hand raised Sarah yeah okay I see your hand raised please jump in a couple things one I it's really exciting to see the student grow percentiles what would be more helpful I think um maybe moving forward I know it's busy but helpful to see what does that mean so like what are the scores that we're seeing within that group and what was the growth percentile as well so we're not just seeing a percentage so that we understand like where do we come from and where are we heading um so that was kind of one point for maybe moving forward in subsequent years and then building on Aaron's point about some of the subgroups kind of um understanding you know I know we can't do given the numbers and some of these cohorts we can't you know publish this data put it in the packet but internally kind of looking at um how long have they been in the district how long have they been on an IEP and those kinds of things so we can really contextualize the growth and then understand what the path forward is um for helping them to achieve um greater in the future only observation I'll make is the one I always make um and maybe it's in the appendix and I haven't seen it yet cohort cohort yeah what what did they look like from third to fourth fourth to 5ifth um yeah so but I love it in Num as opposed to graphs so they I love the upward Trends in a lot of those uh there's a little bit of yin-yang in some of them but um we definitely want to see more cohort type I definitely want to see more cohort type analysis you know where were they in so like the example you showed with the fourth graders right where um the you know that was not quite absolute performance per se but there's there's an equivalence there to an degree right so if they were in third and they were at 50% and now that same core is at 60% then there's some positive stuff to look at there as well not just the growth but their the absolute performance in that that's go in there um so that's one thing um going back to the uh fincom peers um as an example um and I know we've highlighted the fact that we've chosen amplify but we haven't implemented amplify yet right and it's clear in looking at some of that while we have made progress in the ELA space we where we are because we did not have a middle school Ela curriculum right um a lot of homebuilt stuff and people were doing the best they could but you know we see what the benefit of a standard curriculum is in the math numbers and in the elementary numbers and I'm looking forward to seeing the benefit in the Middle School Ela numbers in the next couple years as well um and so I want to just thank I know a lot of the the Middle School teachers were involved in a lot of the work last year to pick that and and hopefully they're excited and they're seeing some of the benefit already but I'm looking forward to seeing how that changes my head right now is next year I want to see everything in six or better so I would to be top quartile next year and I think that's fully achievable with all the work you all have done um you know we're we're better than we were I have this chart from four or five years ago and it was all red so we're much better than we were um but I just we keep striving right keep striving continuous Improvement uh and that's been the focus I think even for this presentation is continuous Improvement so just let's keep let's keep moving we got work to do but we made some great progress so with that said what is the next step Tom great so I'm just going to go through these last couple slides quick to though just to emphasize um I think it's important like part of the reason why I think we're starting to see some encouraging Trends in growth and achievement is around like tier one practices better use of assessment data higher quality curriculum materials better professional development uh better systems of collaboration but I also feel like it's a where I feel like we need to continue to grow is to continue to think about what are our specific strategies that we're using to Target certain populations or groups of students where we know we're not seeing the levels of achievement that we want to see so you'll see here you know kind of a broad slide around what are we doing is close some gaps yes it's all the tier one work particularly a lot of our data work but there's also some things happening within different buckets that we think are important to highlight for our community I think there's a lot of really exciting work happening in our MLL Department um so on this slide you see a couple things highlighted too is one expanding coaching SEI coaching by our ml coordinator to support teachers that is job embedded coaching for teachers which we know has really moved the needle in a lot of ways uh collaborative meetings between literacy specialist and ESL teachers to review additional supports and then I also upcoming potential curriculum adoption in 25 26 which we think is long overdue the one I also really like here which Karen's talked a lot about is a Student Success plan will be created by a school-based team for every MLL student who's not making adequate progress which is kind of a metric determined by desie on access so we think there's a lot of things happening to Target our MLL population I want to give credit to Karen Hall and her leadership for I think really building the program out over the last couple of years um we've I'm not going to go into a ton of detail on this like there's a we know we've had a lot of conversations over the years of what are we doing to try to improve outcomes for our students on IPS what have our program reviews looked like what are some of the new roles that we've put in Place uh I think these are probably ongoing conversations we'll have throughout the year but we feel like we need to continue to implement the findings from the special education program review and we know we're getting a big one soon and continue to leverage a lot of those roles that we have like an inclusion specialist a transition specialist um you know program coordinators to help us be able to move the needle for students as well um we've had a lot of conversations around what are we doing to address achievement gaps for our black and African-American students we actually linked in a article that we saw this week Sarah found from Ed week which talked about the impact on students of having counselors of color we feel like we were having you know a conversation with our team of that's something you'll see sort of in the article too having students have someone who in their building a counsel of color who they can go to connect with is not only it's huge for a sense of belonging but is critical in academic achievement this is only year three of those roles and you'll see here like one of the things that we're trying to do is really expand their role and being able to support the academic uh work of our students so that's like you want to have quick reactions to some of the mcast data sometimes but you also want to make sure that we're mindful of like the change that's going to move the needle or the long stained changes and we feel like we need to continue to maximize the impact of that role and continue how to figure out Gap closing I think that's something we have not done well for our met Co program is figure out how do we close particularly for students who are new to the program how do we ensure if there's gaps coming in that we have a way that we can scale close gaps and we I think that's a that's a challenge for us right now we haven't quite figured out and I think one of the groups that maybe is a harder one for us to figure out sometimes too is thinking about how are we going to improve outcomes for our low income students I do want to say one a couple things that are important for us one is ensuring that our students are like attendance our efforts on attendance we think is one because we see that's a population that has struggled with attendance so making sure that we are investing in the programs that supports the resources to increase attendance two free breakfast programs we know a lot of our economically disadvantaged students are also coming in uh without access to high quality breakfast so that sort of is something that may need move the needle for us and we talked a lot about in our last meeting about summer math modules we need to figure out how to kind of scale up some of that individualized you know tutoring support programming for kids that maybe you know extension of school time that allows us to close some of those gaps that maybe we see as consistent so um I think something that our team needs to continue to do better is to continue to Define what does it look like for us to achieve uh you know close the achievement gap for certain populations I think we're doing it by a lot of focus on tier one and I think we need to continue to refine what this looks like sort of in more specific buckets as well so um I would just like to as I close the presentation just like to continue to thank all the staff for their role in helping our students to both grow and achieve this is if you ask our teachers this is obviously not the only way that we're measuring how our students are doing but I think there's a lot in here that we're really encouraged by and reflect some you know some high levels of growth and achievement for our students any other feedback or comments um you know Tom you and I talked a little bit about the the Gap closing stuff earlier today right um you know that to me is that's going to move the needle for everything and everybody um and we have always talked about we don't want the Gap closing to mean that the top comes down and we're proving the top is not coming down now but we're not moving the bottom up fast enough so we need to keep the top going up with all the initiatives we're doing like math Pathways and things like that um but definitely need intense strategic focus on I'm going to say everybody regardless of what group they're in that is not able to meet and exceed yet right um and all of the um formative related data we have what areas do they have the most struggle in how can we support that the most what after school programs what four school programs if we have a captive audience for some other reason like they're on a bus for 2 hours how can we use that time um you know so it's productive and not just sitting there um and anything else that we can think about and do and I know it's it's going to come down to money at some point in time so we're going to have to have some maybe difficult conversations or whatever to figure that out um but ultimately you know we're going to be measured by how we help the least Among Us for lack of better way I say it um and you know I'm looking forward to seeing some further strategy conversations on that right I think it's a little too early to say this is what we're going to do um you know but as we think about goals and and whatnot and we think about building the library of of uh things that work right we should be looking at some of the stuff um and I'll remind my remind this group as well that a couple years ago we all listen to a podcast of a district in Missouri who started with with a 20 2 2% meaning an exceeding or lower it was maybe it's even in the teens if I recall correctly that District had all sorts of the disadvantages that any District that possibly could ever have and by the time they were done 3 years or four years later they're at 90 plus percentage everybody meeting and achieving no matter what group they were in so as we continue to work through some of the stuff reading opens the doors for a lot of this um but it's not the only thing uh we just need to continue to figure out what that next step is and what the next step is and what the next step is and I guess I'll say this as well I I am I continue to be encouraged by not just you but by the teachers I see and whatnot that that are so bought in right um this is not a casual thing for any of them um and in a time when teaching is going through a ton of burnout I feel like we have a lot of teachers that are on fire um so I'm I'm excited by that and I'm excited by where we're going but we just need to continue to find that next what's the next thing of that we can do from Improvement perspective so thank you all for the time and effort I do definitely want to see more cohort related stuff though on a go for a basis yeah okay anybody else no all right so we'll uh move on from that and we will go to the last topic on our agenda which is the um now posted ad hoc commemorative advisory establishment committee um we have been asked to have a member uh either ex officio or de or design from the school committee to join what is called Ace um I have no information in terms of when it will meet um or how long it's going to take to form I have some understanding that they're going to be discussing it at one of the next select board meetings in terms of how they're going to select their two reading residents um so our role and responsibility is to DET who the school committee is going to assign uh Erin you had Express expressed interest in the past Sean told me he's uh willing to do it if if uh if we need it to be um and he's also willing for us to say let's let's Des let's designate somebody I know we've all we all have a collective lot going on um so I'm open to feedback and thoughts um uh from this group that's here and we can then decide either to appoint somebody or or I can reach out to Laura to have her send applicants to us and we can appoint from there um but any feedback thoughts from the group that's here it's really hard to say without knowing what the plan is you know are we talking one meeting a month are we talking a weekly meeting you know um I do feel um plenty extended at the moment um and the letter indicates they have community members who are interested is that how I'm reading that we have received a letter that has expressed interest in potentially having more than yes a non-school Committee Member represent the school committee yes and then that person would report to us or how does that work theoretically uh that person would report back to us at some regular interval yes we have done designes in the past not for um I I don't have the S about being majority of a committee not not for a a a a bigger committee like this but maybe like the celebration committee we had blog it Mr B as our design for a while um uh select board has a design on the um audit committee as an example so it's not it's not unheard of uh it's certainly something we can do and you know looking around the room and and knowing where two of our other memb are I know that we are and knowing myself we are very much extended at this point in time um so I'm not opposed at all to saying well you know interview candidates for like a better way to say it um is this a one year there's no duration as far as I I mean let me see if it says um about when it what this what the sunset time is um I 12 month it says 12 month period Sunset said 12 months in the select board meeting that it was a one year yeah so the sunset it doesn't have a start date which is part of the problem so um so this this committee will report the select board every two months on the progress of the committee until goals are reached um it'll provide the select board with a report exploring the best way for the town to acknowledge and express accountability for the mistreatment experienced by Russell family orchestrate and execute the inaugural program debrief and use insights gleaned from the event as a foundation to inform and shape subsequent programming submit multiple options for annual program recommendations with rationale along with suggestions for funding mechanisms to the select board within 12 months of the start of the ad hoc committee unless another date is agreed upon by the select board and work with the town manager to transfer all information and responsibilities to the town Department administrator that will ensure the continuation of the annual program before the ace committee sunsets uh and it says the expectation is that it will be spe the specified action items outline will be completed within 12 months and then accordingly the committee shall s set 12 months from the vote date but may be extended by the select board so the vote date was back in the summer so we're actually talking about potentially 9 months or less um unless it's extended by the select board if they can actually accomplish that in N9 months I'm not sure they can either so lofty um I am supportive of the mission but I'm going to say that knowing the push we're making on the policy subcommittee to get a lot of work done this year and that that's often going to fall in the evenings I'm going to decline okay any thoughts from you I I think if someone on the committee wants it if if Sean wants to be on the committee I think he should have that opportunity yeah first he's not here to speak he said he would do it but he'd okay if if we voted to have somebody else do it too but I'll check in with him before we make a decision if not you know maybe go I cannot commit to another so if we can go to you know to people who want to be on it that would be representing us okay is there any thoughts feedback from you I'm expecting it's going to be similar feedback but um I think if Sean is interested I would on that maybe um it's hard without more details for any of us to really kind of evaluate it unfortunately okay so I'll I'll CAU um and dependent upon that um notify the committee of what the next steps are yeah right if it's Shan that's the answer if Sean realizes with something else going with work or other things um including killum because he's on that as well that he can't he can't do it then we'll uh I'll talk to Laura about posting on our behalf to get or receive some of the applicants that are being received um appropriately okay yes okay um that closes our agenda are there any further motions motion to adjourn motion by Carla second by Aaron roll call Sarah yes Carla yes Aaron yes Tom yes we are here by adjourned at 852