##VIDEO ID:1Hy4cpkIoyI## good evening everyone welcome to the Red Bank planning board we are now ready to come to order this 8th day of January 2025 the time is 7:05 p.m. notice this meeting is being held in accordance with public laws of 1975 chapter 231 an adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by a notice sent the Asbury Park Press and the two River times and posted in the main lobby of the municipal building and on the municipal website we have a roll call please we have the square on the new members or or the reup members okay so whoever has one of these wonderful sheets in front of them just want to stand Megan and BR if you all just want to repeat after me I state your name I will solemnly swear or affirm Solly swear that I will Faithfully that I will Faithfully partially and justly form all the duties office of of the office of planning board member planning board member are the Red Bank planning board that's my ability ability thank you if everyone can just sign and then push the sheets over to me so I can notorized Board number yeah is that fine yeah okay so I'll doent absent Thomas Welsh chaus here here D here Megan Massie here B here Hernandez Redstone here andan and we need to swear it's raise your hand do you swear any testimony you're about to give will be the truth the whole truth about the truth oh oh I'm your you have the oath I'm sorry yes s just stand stand up and we'll swear you in stand I state your name all herandez do Solly swear or affirm Solly swear or affirm that I will Faithfully that I will Faithfully partially partially and justly perform perform all the duties of the office to the office of planning board member planning board member the Red Bank planning board Bank planning board that's my ability my ability congratulations if you can just sign that and send it down here thank you thank you okay time to reorganize the board if anyone want to be chairman I would uh make a nomination of Mr manuso to continueous chair second for the record that's not what I meant other nominations any other nominations be your forever yes Christina yes math yes Wilson B yes Hernandez yes brone yes anyone want to be Vice chairman continue nominate Barbara BOS anyone else I'll second okay so let's do a roll vote on that I vote Thomas yes Christina bakis yes D Ando yes bar uh Megan Massie yes Wilson B yes it's Hernandez yes yes board secretary yeah would nominate Al second all in favor uh our board attorney we had several three 400 people interested but I would I would like to nominate Mark Le te and I would like to second that okay um Thomas Walsh yes Christina bonis yes Dam cuso yes Barbara Boz yes Megan Massie yes wison B yesel Hernandez yes fredstone yes as much as I don't like newspapers um we did get rid of the Star Ledger uh so we have our official newspapers is the Asbury Park Pest and the two River Times uh I'd happily make that motion if someone would second it please second all in favor I forgot uh engineer sorry that's right it's not on here um I would nominate tnm as our board engineer as they have but your but your submission was in the packet um and um you know the The Institute knowledge that that tnm has is is as I've said before I consider to be Priceless to us in town and happily make that nomination as board engineer okay um Thomas Walsh yes Christina bakis yes Sam yes Robert Boz yes Megan Massie yes wisson B yesel Hernandez yes and fredstone yes tell we forgot about him um we have the calendar did anyone have any questions we're already going to make some changes to it we'll do that at the next meeting we don't have to do it now then so we're gonna we're going to move we're going to do the calendar next meeting because we have a couple conflicts so if you have any conflicts or I can ad my God meeting I'm not having never mind yeah okay so we'll skip the calendar if you have any questions or comments about calendar other than the ones we've already gotten sorry I got advertised for the February 12 meeting sorry so okay so the calendar was in your packet and I'll make a move that we uh publish that calendar we're just removing the September got plenty of time got plenty of time to figure that one out yeah September 24th so we need a second for that second all in favor all wonderful uh okay we have a regular meeting minutes oh no conflict board attorney um we've used Kevin Kennedy before I'd like to continue that uh can we do the the all the Professionals in one vote yeah and then CME is our conflict engineer if tnm has a conflict with anyone have a problem with that I have a second second all in favor you want you probably should do those yeah Thomas Walsh yes Christina bonis yes yes Barb Bo yesan Massie yes wi yesel Hernandez yes Redstone yes and I'm sure you all read the regular meeting minutes from September 24th does anyone have any additions or any questions about those if not can we have a motion to approve them please mov I'll second that who was the first all in favor any post just on the calendar the bottom of the calendar says reorg meeting January 14th that's an error I presume next year letting us know what it is for next year oh 2026 sorry I didn't catch that thank you and then we have a uh the dispensary that wanted to open at the laundry mat behind the lighthouse has asked their uh they've withdrawn their application so we need to vote on the resolution to dismiss it with prejudice without without 54 Northbridge Avenue block two lot 18 does anyone want to make a motion to dismiss without prejudice make a motion to dismiss without pre I'll happily second that we'll have a roll call vote um wait can Tommy Tommy was never here for any of the meetings he can he he can still to dismiss without Tom Thomas Welsh yes Christina bonatakis yes manuso yes bar Boz yes Megan Massie yes wison B yes Hernandez yesst yes okay we have one item on the public agenda today and that is an addition to the m plan of the environmental resource inventory and from uh our planners bfj planning we have a presentation Susan are you there I'm here can you all hear me yes it's all yours okay thank you um I don't have a formal you know slide presentation um I just wanted to kind of speak through generally the process of an ER environmental resource inventory uh touch on a few key points for the draft that you have before you and basically just hear um hear feedback um just to give you you know a sense of what an ER is um it is an amendment to the master plan it's adopted by the planning board as an amendment to the master plan um it's a technical document so it's somewhat different from the rest of the master plan in the sense that it's not meant to be a policy document it really is a pure inventory of environmental resources issues um you know components um it it's more of a a document to educate the public public and also to inform public policy so it can inform land use decisions Transportation decisions decisions about Parks all of these things um I think can look to the environmental resource inventory um for information but it's it's not on its own intended to create policy um and that's I think a good thing it's you know it's essentially an appendix to the master plan it can be updated as often as is needed um and can be updated pretty easily so um obviously information changes year to year um new sources of information always come uh and that's always an opportunity for uh for the buau to update that er um so it it really does act as kind of a companion on the technical side to the policy side of the master plan um and there maybe other uh similar types of amendments like traffic studies um that can play that role as well in the master plan um so that is just a kind of a quick overview of what an ER is and how it relates to the master plan um this er um upd dates your current one which is um at least 20 years old dates to the '90s um late ' 90s I think and so we you know we started with that as a as a baseline but obviously Lots has changed lots have changed lots of things have changed um on the environmental front uh in the ensuing decades so um we really got this process started off with the environmental Commission in June um they um as is usual for an ER they kind of led the creation of this and led the the different components um so we what we did was we started by looking at Eris elsewhere in the state um that had been recently adopted that you know we looked at about six to 10 of them um to get a sense of best practices um information sources typical contents typical approaches you know mapping approaches um and that was really helpful just to see how other communities including some in Mammoth County are are approaching this um so we did have a meeting with the EC in June a kickoff meeting just to kind of go through the project scope we talked about the content of the plan of the er um and really talked through a draft outline with them about what they'd like to see kind of their vision for the components of the inventory um as a result of that we actually added a couple things like uh noise pollution and light pollution um primarily to that that list of initial chapters and so really with that guidance from the EC in June um we hit the ground running with creation of chapters um there are 10 total chapters in the ER clock at just under 100 Pages um each chapter is fairly short on its own um it starts with an introduction um and then really takes you through a lot of sometimes related uh environmental resources or components um there's topography which is really just about slopes and and there's not a whole lot of those uh in Red Bank so it's a short chapter geology talking about things like Bedrock formation and rock and that type of thing um soils very closely related to that um you know H hydrology is really anything about water uh particularly groundwater climate and air that's where you look at things like pollution and also climate change um vegetation and Wildlife um really focuses on designated species that are on um you know a state or federal list but also just thinking broadly about land land cover um vegetation cover and and what that means for habitat uh in Red Bank land use borrows heavily from the master plan um because that was just done and um you know it really is a good Baseline for that so it's a very quick overview of the of the land use it's not meant to to duplicate the master plan at all um and then historic and cultural resources um again overview a lot of that information comes from the master plan and the historic preservation element um chapter 9 is utilities and infrastructure really just kind of the hard infrastructure um Electric water sewer um and then lastly contaminated sites so brownfields uh or other sites that are on some sort of a list um you know with D um and we map those um as appropriate we have them in table format so you'll see um you know each chapter kind of goes through this um there's a lot of maps there's a lot of other Graphics we really tried to make it informative but not encyclopedic um I have seen Eris that are 3 400 Pages for communities that are about the size of Red Bank and and that just becomes a little bit too much to to even grasp so we tried to to Really Take A Narrative Approach um dig as deeply as we we felt was maybe appropriate and really go where the information LED um the information sources are primarily State uh and federal agencies but really we tried to find information wherever we could in publicly available sources um and there are footnotes at the end of each chapter which I think may be the most helpful thing actually um so you can click through those with hyperlinks and see where the information came from which will be helpful in the future for updating this um you know obviously links change and some of them may become dead over time but but it's it's very clear in the footnotes where that information came from so a future EC uh could pretty easily find those updates um or at least know where to start looking um so we basically submitted these chapters in draft form to the EC as they were done and we got comments um sometimes one or two rounds of comments um on edits things we were missing things we didn't get quite right um information they wanted us to try to track down if we could um and so we would make those edits uh really throughout the process um and um that's really what you have before you um you know we I think we finished it in mid December so you've you've had it um it does have to be adopted by the planning board as an amendment to the master plan um even though it was largely prepared under the jurisdiction of the of the EC um so with that I I do have there's a half a dozen edits changes as is often the case that I wanted to take you through but first I thought I would pause and just answer any questions or just get any general feedback that you all might have I will say that my own planning board on which I serve we updated our ER last year and the questions were about like this it was about a 10-minute approval process but um understood it's a very technical document um and it's been pretty well vetted by the EC but anybody have questions just about the approach or overall process okay well let me take you through there are six or seven I think minor edits that I think should be part of the record so that you could potentially adopt this tonight subject to um those edits and they were caught by the EC really late in the year um so I'm just going to take you through them again minor stuff um the first is on the acknowledgements page just making sure that the EC and the Green Team membership roster is up to date and we have the latest list we have a question from the yes I'm sorry go ahead we were on mute my name k a little biter a resident in red bang for 10 years very much like the Consulting shop I my business is in the geospacial location geospace location and the draft plan they get together is very comprehensive but there may be some other things the township may want to consider um so my question is not so much for Susan but for the town itself do you have anyone here on staff has any experience working with geographic information systems or GIS so Susan's basically all those Maps or spatial data layers are probably using e kind of produce that report um but there are a lot of other layers that may not be particular to her that you guys could be adding you could look at um say tax you geoc code every address in in the in the city do all the TA all the tax data right so you look at each individual property look at the tax history right um thing about Red Bank is uh over 50% of the homes in Redbank were constructed before 1960 so Leed paint is an issue right so you know it's something you folks want to focus on from a mitigation perspective the other thing is um i s Susan you heard I'm sure you've heard of scope to emissions um I'm sorry I didn't catch something emissions mic right up close so basically um it's the the carbon it's tied to the carbon emissions tied to your purchase of electricity natural gas all the boilers in the um in all for heating uh heating electricity and air conditioning right you're basically purchasing electricity or natural gas and that electricity has a carbon cost embedded in it from whom you choose to produce it from right so we're a lot of towns are now doing around the country is they're basically calculating their scope to emission right so Red Bank doesn't have a lot of scope two emissions but print the social the social cost of carbon I don't want to get a lot of detail here but um you're getting pretty close I know that I'm saying is I think this makes a lot of sense but there are other things that longterm the Planning Commission could consider to kind of add to that capability and having some in-house capability to kind of build your own spatial lers and only reporting may make a lot of sense right so my last question for Susan is what is the cost to this to this the time for your study uh this was a $25,000 study okay so if you go on if you you go online the average cost for for an ER is between 8 to $15,000 for for town the size of R so clearly they're they're clearly adding a lot more value than additional cost is but um I'll finish by saying as a resident here I'd be happy to work with the environmental commission and maybe uh establish some more best practices and Susan I think we have discussion as well sure sure yeah I mean I think it's a it's a great Baseline as I said it really should be updated hopefully a lot more often than since the last time um because new information is going to come out and and like you said the mapping capabilities are there um you know one one area that the EC was interested in looking at even further is you know electrical usage and really looking at how Redbank Compares and that information just isn't really available uh in any cohesive way um it's we we searched we tried to find it um but that's the type of thing that I think is going to be become more available over time um you know utility usage especially when thinking about EV charging and and more and more electrification it's going to become an issue and so I think the state is going to start providing more data and and I would urge the BAU to you know keep a look out for that I know the EC will keep it on their radar all this information is publica all this information is publicly available and I think it's important longer term you know they're doing great work but I think it might be prudent for the for the commission to develop their own internal GIS capabilities build their own other mapping layers that are not part of the current current report yeah it's a good point um so turn your mic I'm sorry so the currently is actually uh going through a change with spatial data to try to make everything come over back in 2002 2004 we did invest in a mapping system in the planning office we had all the nuts and bolts everything to go with it and it got scrapped about eight years later G O'Reilly headed that effort it was hopefully going to be successful it went away so yeah we're we're we we were in front of it before and it went by the wayside as far as lead we do track that now because it's obviously it's the law as far as rentals and whatnot so we do have a way to track that we have a third party that takes care of us for that as far as documentation to the state what but I see what you're saying and to me looking new into space data some of that if I'm mistaken tell me they are able to help with that program with us to combine that so everybody has access to it as well you can code every address the town till that long put that as a spal on the if you had EZ as like a reporting tool um you may want to invest in you know thanks thank you very much appreciate you spending some time yeah thank you for sure and any other questions from the board or public okay doesn't look like it okay um so I'm just go back to edits um that you would need to incorporate in an approval so I mentioned the acknowledgements page just making sure uh the roster is up to date we have it it was sent to us this week for the EC and the Green Team um um another one there was a discussion on page 68 about um the potential creation of a new historic district on Irving Place at the time we wrote that chapter that was sort of out there um being discussed as we understand it's it's not really proceeding that there wasn't really support uh for that District so we will remove the paragraph on page 68 that discusses that Irving Place District um on page 86 this is table 104 it's um it's uh a table of um you know contaminated sites or sites that were in some level of contamination and this comes directly from D so it spits out this list and there are two properties on the list that are actually in Middletown not Red Bank um I think it has something to do with the ZIP code perhaps but it's the Navas Country Club and Shady Oaks condominium so we'll remove the uh table those from the table as well as um any discussion on that page they're obviously not in Red Bank um rest of these are very very straightforward um I think we had the incorrect date of the establishment of the shade tree committee uh it's it was 2004 not 2007 so we'll correct that we understand that there is a new uh tree inventory that's been updated just in the last two weeks so we will update the reference to that make sure that it's that's the latest and cor correct reference um there was one place where randomly we did not capitalize Swimming River on page 48 so um we did a search that was the one and only place so we'll capitalize that correctly and then lastly on the cover itself it's a beautiful photo U but it happens to show Middletown in the background not Red Bank uh and that was a mistake thinking of you know where that photo was taken so we will find we have a series of photos that the EC shared with us uh and we will find a beautiful water photo that shows Red Bank and not Middletown on the cover um so those were all of the changes that we would suggest need to be made as part of any adoption of the ER any questions or comments on those okay well then not nothing there's a oh hi we have council person Blackwood here say hello for the record yes pleas black with 34 chest Street red back I just wanted to say thank you to Susan and bfj for working with the environmental commission I am the liaison and I was formerly you know very involved with the environmental Commission and um we do appreciate the work that went in to get the update and together so I just wanted to make sure your public great for that so thank you thank you Nancy and thank you for all the the feedback and guidance oh you're welcome and also yes it's been 28 years was9 and that's the last time it was updated so hopefully you know now that we have it up to date EC Willie to check over and make amendments as I see and so again thank you thank you thank anything else for us Susan that's all I have great so um our job here is to vote on attaching this amending this to the master plan as submitted with the changes on the the 2023 master plan uh so if someone uh has any interest in making that motion please do yeah I would make that motion an excellent resource to we have a second second great Thomas Welsh yes Christina bonatakis yes Dano yes Barbara B yes Megan Massie yes wison B yes Hernandez yes yes that is that the last thank you Susan I just have one announcement um so there's going to be a new way for everyone to access the um agenda items going forward um you will you should have gotten in your email now um a signin um code from something that's either Civic Civic Plus or Civic clerk email not no need uh I didn't either yeah so if you didn't just email me or call me tomorrow um I also then sent you an email with um just now Al um in that email that's a training um a link to a training video that shows you how to operate the um the new system um but the link that you got from Civic Plus or Civic whichever one so so I can tell I got the link yes it was only active for it's actually said in it only active for six minutes yes yes and I didn't know what it was so I did not click it and and I just clicked it now and it's it's invalid at this point your email I did not I don't know why it's only a six minute that really is weird yeah um but go to I'll send you another link to the to act to the actual board portal and if you just do forget my password just you'll start it way so I'll send you now a link to the actual board portal where you will just do forget my password give me two seconds that's what I mean yeah I think the one thing itd asked you for is to activate it first probably before we can even reset password so yeah it activate it yes I think most people because we we've been trying and going back and forth with the I think you just do because I can't resend the the activation so I think if you go through um forget my password they'll they'll oh it says that I've already signed up oh yes so so so so I think you're right it might just can just do forget my password okay and then I think we could vote to um we um we'll be having a February 12 meeting we will not be having a January 22nd meeting we're going to begin um some public hearings on the train station development Fe it's nice to see everyone and since we have Susan do you want to just briefly Susan tell say the next Redevelopment step is yes so we had the public Workshop uh December 18th I think it was mid December um about the same attendance as the first one which was great the room was full and the input was really great um the developer basically presented their their concept plan there was a model there as well um I know some of you were there so that was interesting to see um a lot of various substantive feedback and so we are now working on drafting the actual Redevelopment plan um it's going to have um you know the overarching kind of bulk bulk guidelines um that basically become the Zoning for the Redevelopment area but it's also going to have some design guidelines um and standards that the applicant or the developer would be held to so that's the next step um we're working on that now and that um is what is going to be before you in February um the draft of that plan the next step if once that plan is adopted would be uh for the developer to come in for site plan approval um I I don't think they're imminently ready to do that I know Shauna probably knows better than I do but um that's going to be some months out after the Redevelopment plan is adopted so that's where we are in the process it's still I would say kind of in the middle um of the overall process but um it's really it's great to see such strong public participation a lot of interests and I think it was a productive um you productive public session thank you up thank you Susan thank you we have a motion to adjourn more second second all in favor see you all in February thank you everybody are you I'm good how are you now