Thank you all for being here. I'm DeVann Cook, County 
Administrator and tonight we're going to   be presenting some information on our budget for 
you. Um there are a couple of things as we start   the meeting uh I'll be presenting some initial 
information and then Brad Baker, our assistant   County Administrator and Sabrina White our um 
Deputy Budget Director will be uh presenting   information also. One of the reasons, one of the 
things I want to do is explain why we're here.   Last October we were having a budget meeting 
with the Commissioners, we were talking about   different types of revenues, different expenses, 
how the budget worked and the question came up   what do the people think? And as staff ,we had no 
response to that so we've set up these meetings.   This is the fourth I believe of five that we're 
doing throughout the county. Uh we also also   we're going to have this streaming and at the 
end of the presentation they'll explain about   some ways you can communicate with the board and 
let them know your feelings about the information   we're presenting. Uh the other thing I want 
to mention is that you will notice there are   no Commissioners present at these meetings. We 
specifically as staff asked them not to attend   so it would not be a political event and they've 
all uh agreed to that so this event is strictly   an educational uh forum. The staff is not pushing 
one type of or one particular uh revenue source   or or any type of expenses. We're just wanting to 
give you information that will help you to respond   to your commissioner or all the Commissioners. 
So with that I'll get started. I'm going to as   I said do some basic information on the county 
and then...we're in District Two uh tonight and   so I'll give you some general information on 
District 2. Um those of you that may not   know uh the current population that we have in 
Santa Rosa County is 198,494 actually I saw uh   print out yesterday and it may be as high 
as 202,000. There are 80,364 dwelling units   or Homes, apartments. The median age in the county 
is 40.1 years and the median household income is $77,260. We have a veteran population of 24,698 and 
uh we have 30,221 people that are employed in Santa Rosa   County. We maintain the county maintains 100 
uh 1,625 miles of roadway and we maintain 424   holding ponds. So uh you can see that's quite a 
bit that we take care of uh for the county with   the crews we have. As I said you're in District 
Two, so we're going to give you a little bit of   of information about District 2 and you 
will notice uh we have all the districts   here on these charts. Uh they are all within 
a uh close range on the actual population.   Your district has 35,153 citizens, uh it's 
249 square miles there are 17,206 structures   which that includes commercial and residential. 
In this District, 337 miles of County maintained   Road and 68 ponds. Um the one thing I do want to 
point out uh just as as general information is   the uh square miles in the different districts. 
Yours is kind of an average of 337 but you'll   notice like District 4 in Navarre is 28 square miles. 
So there's quite a bit of difference in in the   districts themselves even though the number of 
citizens is kept uh close to the same so that   the Commissioners represent basically the same 
number of citizens. Um I'm going to turn it over   to Sabrina and she's going to start going into some 
of the detail on the budget. Then Brad will take over. Good afternoon thank you all for coming. So 
what I will talk about first is Ad valorem taxes   and that's our property taxes. So here we have a 
timeline and I'm going to kind of walk through the   timeline to help us all understand how property 
taxes work. So at the beginning January 1st of   2023 the property value is set by the Property 
Appraiser's office as a state requirement. In   June the the property appraiser takes all of 
that information as the values were set January   1 and they give a us a revenue estimate based 
off of the taxable value of our properties in   the in the county. Based on that information we 
set a tentative budget. By law local government   is required to have a balanced budget unlike the 
federal government. So our revenues have to equal   our expenditures. We do that every year and by 
law Mr. Mr. Cook is required to present that to the   Commissioners by July 15th of every year. In August 
based off of that information a trim notice goes   out and that trim notice has an an amount listed 
on it of what you're going to expect to pay for   your property taxes. Your bill that comes out in 
November cannot be more than that estimate that   goes out in August. So when you get that in August 
no that's the most you're going to pay based on   all the decisions that will be made in September. 
In September, the budget is adopted. The in November   the property tax bill is mailed out. In January it 
starts all over again. So March is actually when   the bill is due, so if you own property in Santa 
Rosa County or anywhere in the State of Florida,   when your bill goes out in November, if you pay 
in November you get a 4% discount. So when we're   budgeting on the board of county commissioner side 
of things, we have to factor that into our planning   that most people are going to get that 4% discount 
and they're going to submit their property taxes   in in November but they're actually due March 
31st and so let's just hypothetically say a new   house was constructed in March. So that house uh 
they pulled a permit in January they started the   foundation in January and by March a new family 
was moving into that home so a certificate of   occupancy was issued. Because that house was not 
built January 1st of that year we will not   recognize that revenue for that new construction 
until March of 2025. So in general yes yes ma'am. Because the house was built here, the 
value is set here okay so the next time the   value is set is 2024 in January. Okay the 
this bill that goes out based off of this   value is not due until March of 2025. So yes 
yes ma'am those are all Florida Statutes that   demonstrate how the values work. So in general 
if a home was to sell a new house was to be   constructed you're looking at a 2-year delay 
in adjusted values in general okay. So that's   from a planning perspective that's how we 
have to calculate things for our budget. And just so yall know, Brad gives me the 
complicated ones so. Um so this is a street   in a neighborhood. We have seven parcels in the 
subdivision. Here we have a general tax bill. On   your tax bill you have the school district that 
is separate from us. We do not control how much   teachers get paid that is the school district. 
Then you have the Board of County Commissioners.   The Board of County Commissioners is responsible 
for roads, um subdivision development, um facilities,   the courthouse. General government things are what 
the Board of County Commissioners are responsible   for and you'll also have the Florida Water 
Management District. If you live in the City   of Milton, the City of Milton might be on here. 
If you live in the City of Gulf Breeze, it could   also be on here. So what we're going to do with 
this tax bill is we're going to look at this   first parcel. This house was built in 1999, a long 
time ago. It has four exemptions on it. It has a   homestead exemption, which I'm sure many of you are 
familiar with. It also has an additional homestead   exemption, which certain parcels qualify if you're 
over a certain value. It has a senior exemption   and a widower exemption. And based off of those 
four exemptions the value from $180,000 comes down to   $100,000 for the school district and $75,000 for 
the BOCC. So this value is then multiplied by the   millage rate. The Board of County Commissioners and 
the school district separately, they set their own   millage rate. Ours is 6.0953 it has been that since 
2008 and prior to that, it has not risen, increased,   since 1989. So if your property tax bill is going 
up it's because the value is going up not because   the rate has changed. So because of all of those 
exemptions, when you come to the next year's tax   bill it's capped at 3%. So the tax revenue for the 
next year cannot be greater than 3% and usually   it's a little bit less than that usually it's 
about 2.5% or 2.7%. So back to the street, every   house on the street has a different value and that 
is because every house has a different um it was   built at a different time and it also it was has 
different exemptions. For example this house was   built in 2021, the same time this house was built 
right next door. It this one has a value or tax   revenue of $3,300, this one has zero. The reason is 
it's zero is because it is owned by 100% disabled   veteran and they pay no property taxes. So as 
you're well aware Santa Rosa County is home to   a lot of veterans thankfully, we appreciate their 
service so we're certainly happy um that they do   not pay taxes. However it adds to the equation of 
how we have to plan for the budget. So speaking   of exemptions, there here's a list of all the 
different exemptions and I'm not going to get into   those but in general there's a $3.3 billion value 
for all of those properties that have exemptions   on them. Add all those together and it's about $20 
million in revenue that we do not see because the   legislature has put exemptions in place. So those 
the are um benefits to the tax payer. This   year for our this year's budget we had had $16 
billion in taxable value. Times that millage rate   which is what our Board of County Commissioners 
sets and our estimated revenue is expected to   be $98 million this year. Just so you're aware 
$98 million is roughly half of our budget. So   our budget net budget is around $200 million. 
Is that surprising? Maybe? Maybe not? All right thank you Sabrina and thank you all for coming 
tonight. If you're online, thank you for taking   a little time out of your busy schedule to join 
us. The whole point of this as you can see Sabrina   covers some pretty complex slides there. It's 
really just to educate the citizens of Santa   Rosa County about what goes on in the budget 
planning and the budget discussions with the   Board of County Commissioners. We're going to talk 
a little bit now about our Capital Investments .I   want to recap some of the stuff we've done over 
the last seven years. Uh we've invested $227   million in capital projects in Santa Rosa County. 
As you can see at the bottom here if you factor   in the per capita and you'll see that on several 
slides coming up and why we do that and we just   want you to understand per person in our County 
what is being spent. Um so that's about $1,143   per capita for every citizen in our County that 
we've invested in the last seven years in capital.   So in the transportation and paving $69 million. 
If you'll see on the little sheet we gave you,   it's kind of a recap of some of the Investments. We 
resurfaced 330 miles of roadway. Um the Pea Ridge Connector   is factored into that $69 million. Um going into 
facilities the primary thing for that you see   the beautiful courthouse over on Avalon Boulevard. Um 
you know that's about $45-46 million of that which   you'll also see here on the debt services line 
is one of our primary debt Services. Uh when we   get into stormwater, we have several stormwater 
projects we've done over that. Most of them were   funded with a portion of the grants that we 
were able to successfully uh capture, most of   them are federal um hazard mitigation grants. Um 
you can see Pace Lane drainage project, Venetian   Way. Um we we've got some current ones going on 
in the in the coming five years I'll go over in   a minute. Economic development that is primarily 
our industrial park and we did most of that off   of grants. If you're familiar with uh Deep Water 
Horizon, the oil spill, um they set some pots of   money aside and we've been able to capture a 
lot of that revenue and bring it back to Santa   Rosa County because we were one of the impacted 
counties from that. Uh parks and rec, uh Benny   Russell Park, Navarre Park, um upgrades in every 
District to make ADA-compliant parks and   uh playgrounds in the districts. Public Safety 
primarily is um purchasing capital vehicles for   our sheriff's department and our fire trucks for 
our fire departments and that comes from the local   option sales tax. Um and then some money in the 
environmental side. So kind of the breakdown of   that you can see the biggest contributor to that 
is grants. We have a very robust Grants Department.   They're doing great things over there and they're 
able to pull money in. The thing about grants is   most of them are a 25% match right so um 75% 
comes from the grant, 25% has to come from some   other revenue source and that's why we're here to 
talk about revenue because we want to diversify.   Everybody likes their if you're a homeowner anyway 
you like the AD valorem rate, the millage rate, to   stay as low as possible right? But we have to fund 
in a minute you'll see we have to fund capital   projects and that's why we need your input so um 
half cent tax...half cent sales tax, $46 million   and like I said that's the primary the the venue 
here for the $17 million going to Public Safety   into the vehicle acquisitions. We've done several 
transportation projects out of that as well and   you'll see the sign you know this uh this was 
funded by your half cent sales tax at work. Um   our capital fund now this one down here American 
Rescue that was a one-time dump of money from the   federal government for the covid response so we 
can't factor this into any future right? They're   not another windfall coming from the federal 
government well and if it does it comes on our   backs right? Because that's the only way we're going 
to get money from the federal government. So so   now let's talk about the next five years. We have 
a capital improvement plan. We have $360 million   already factored in the next 5 years of capital 
improvement um needs in Santa Rosa County. The   largest one is transportation and paving. I will 
tell you a large chunk of this over $150 million   of that is the Navarre Beach Bridge. The Navarre Beach 
Bridge is in need uh probably the next 10 years   to be replaced. Um we have ongoing maintenance 
issues with it now and it's very expensive to   build a new bridge. Um the other one includes uh 
we've got we've got four-lane Berryhill Road, four   laning of Chumuckla Highway. We're currently doing the 
intersection of Woodbine and 90, four laning it   and then we will do the Five Points interchange 
of that as well. Um Berryhill Road in three   phases. The first phase is from Chumuckla Highway 
down to about Pond Creek. Um the second phase of   the Pea Ridge Connector. Trying to think of, yep Cyanamid Road is in there. Um if you are in the district   2 area and you say what about Highway 90? Highway 
90 is a state road. We are pushing them to make it   the top priority for our county because the four 
lane through the City of Milton is needed and um   but that is a DOT project and um all we have is 
influence on that so uh encourage you to reach   out to your to your state representatives 
and let them know that is a priority. yes ma'am. We are in design right now um the 
first phase of that, like I said, will be   from Chumuckla Highway to Pond Creek. The next 
phase will be from Pond Creek to the intersection   of um Anderson Road, Anderson Lane 
and then the next section will take it up to Dogwood. Okay okay so what area are you in? What area? 
Off Old Berryhill. Okay correct. Yeah so as as   we do the design, that will be included in that is 
any kind of intersection improvements. I can't tell   you until the design comes out because we have 
to look at capacity, we have to look at turn lanes, we   have to look at all these things. Uh red lights are 
typically triggered by traffic counts and   need, which will talk a little bit about that in a 
minute but um I can't say that there's going to be   a a necessarily a traffic signal at any particular 
intersection but we also are looking at improving   the intersection section of Anderson Lane and Berryhill 
Road. You know how it comes in at a weird   angle there and uh some of the way the the road is 
tilted there it makes it it is so that is factored   into that design. We're actually going to do some 
improvements intermediate improvements in that   area we're working on that now but that will be in 
Phase two that intersection. That will be in Phase two of the   Berryhill Road and the reason why we have to take 
them in phases is as we apply for Grants and we   apply like the DOT um we're doing we're we're part 
of what's called a SCOP program which is a Small   County Outreach and Opportunity thing the DOT does 
and we just barely qualify for it still but we're   putting money in those. So for example the the 
recent one is the widening and safety shoulders on   Highway 182. They've asked us to phase it in three 
phases because they don't have enough money in   each year to fund that program so we're doing that 
one I can't remember it's probably like an 8 mile   stretch of road. They're asking us to break it into 
three phases instead of giving us the money up front. So 90 and Woodbine is out for bid right 
now. We will open that on February the 29th and   then we'll bring that to the board in March and 
look to get that awarded. The next one will go out   it's in design right now it's probably because 
it's a complicated intersection at Five Points,   um that will probably I think they're talking 
about a 14 to 18-month design on that and then   we'll put it out for bid. What was the other one 
you asked for? Berryhill Road is i n design right   now and we're looking at we're going to have 
to add some stormwater. So we're working on   stormwater acquisition now. And I'll I'll tell 
you that we had some money in the SCOP program   that was doing safety shoulders on Berryhill Road 
and if you go through the do process you have to   meet all the federal procurement requirements 
for when you're when you're procuring land and   those are very stringent and they would have 
made the cost of the land exceed um the value   of the money we got from DOT so we gave that 
money back to design on our own so the land   acquisition will not be as high. Because they 
they make you follow all these real stringent   guidelines, so it's faster and cheaper for 
us to acquire the land versus being in a   federal program which the DOTmoney is federal 
dollars passed down to the state which are then   passed down to us if that makes sense. So did 
I answer all your all your questions? Okay yes ma'am. Right so talking about what can you do to stop 
growth. The Board of County Commissioners, the   only thing they can do to well they cannot up 
zone right. They cannot give any rezoning um but   if your lot is zoned for something, the only way 
we can stop you building on it is to purchase   it. Other than that whatever it is zoned for, if 
it's zoned for multi-family, if it's zoned for   single family, whatever commercial, town homes um 
we can't stop them from building anything in that category. Yeah well I mean 
it's all our problems right? And also if you remember Sabrina's slide you saw 
that growth is could be up to two years delayed   right? So that's really how government functions. 
Everybody says well development should pay   for itself. Well it will eventually pay for itself 
but all the new houses that are being built right   now, we won't see that for 2 years - that income. 
So that's why we're talking about tonight we're   talking about how do we diversify. We're still 
talking about Capital planning right now but   we're going to get into what are some options 
we can diversify our revenue so that we're not   as dependent on Ad Valorem. So I'll finish this slide 
real fast because we haden't got into the storm   water. We have several stormwater projects. Um 
Pine Blossom Road, um that's going to be a big   stormwater project. Uh let me think of any more 
where where are stormwater projects. Um we'll go   into public safety. We need the sheriff needs a 
new administrative facility, we are planning and   designing a Consolidated Public Safety Dispatch 
Center right now. We are bringing all of our   Emergency Services into one facility. Right now 
we have an ambulance and fire dispatch, we have   a Sheriff's Department dispatch, we have a Milton 
Police Department dispatch and we have a Gulf Breeze   Department dispatch. We're building one facility 
and putting put all those in one so that we have   a better response when all the dispatchers are in 
the same room you're not getting transferred to   another building, your call is being answered 
processed and you get emergency services. So   that's in design right now. Parks and Rec um 
one of the major parks uh projects that we have   going is in the south end, we're building a large 
soccer complex about $9 million at the beside the   Pensacola State College campus. Um it also includes 
some infrastructure it allow the the buses to   access the Woodlawn Beach Elementary School I 
think I think it's Elementary School. Um and they   could do that without going through a subdivision 
because currently, all the buses go through the   subdivision to get to the school. So we're able 
to partner with Pensacola State College to do   that and then we'll continue to do other projects 
within the district. Um as well um facilities I   talked about them. We do need a new administrative 
facility. Um if you do not know uh DeVann over here,   he's got 46 years in, he's fixing to retire and 
we have a facility that he started in and it   hasn't been updated much. So and that's what our 
developmental services are working out of. Yes sir. Okay. We are doing some, we are doing 
some repairs to the boat launch - the deck   and all of that and and then we're...so it's 
interesting that all of that we cannot find   any permits that we're ever pulled because 
it's been there for so long, so we have to   go through that process to do anything that 
touches the water but that's we know that   seawall has issues. Uh we looking at some 
more parking for that area. So yes we are uh. We are in the process of figuring 
out what we can do and what we can't   do before we do that because if the 
regulatory authorities say no, then   we limit what we're going to do. Okay that's 
a good idea. Yeah I'll get I'll get with the   District 2 commissioner and we'll we'll work 
on that. I agree, I mean it's a nice asset to have. That is at the end of Ward Basin Road. Um they 
wanted to, they wanted to sell that but keep it   in as a County boat ramp and keep that area in 
conservation so we're able to purchase that. You   know we've done several purchases of conservation 
lately uh 500 I think it's roughly 515 acres in   the Navarre and when I talked about earlier that that 
you can't the only way to stop development is do   that, we've been able to successfully get some 
grants that we're able to do that. We're working   on closing one now, um it's the Rasasco property. We 
did that one in partnership with Whiting Field and   they get money to protect the base. They were able 
to secure some extra money for that as well so um   that's I can't remember 100 roughly 108 -120 Acres 
something like that. Uh when you go down past Whiting   Field, the Clear Creek area, all of that on the 
left both sides of that um water body there will   be. We're going to work on a a passive Park area 
out there and allow walking trails Etc and that   but it won't be houses. Um so that's things that 
we are doing our board has recognized as a need   for the county. Uh let me see what else did I not 
oh our PARA Joppa football field, we're building   a nice complex out there. Um it is actually the 
training fields already constructed, we're working   on the turf right now. We had a serious weed 
problem come up, we're working to fight that   and hopefully they can start practicing on that 
in the spring. Um that's out at uh that's our our   Joppa football field it's just to give the kids I 
think there's let me think four practice fields   out there that they'll be able to play on and 
then we're work the next phase of that will be   a competition football field because we do have a 
lot of um kids coming in that just moving into the   area as well and we want something for them to do 
other than get in trouble so the more rec area. Okay. So so we do have we have been 
participating in a mental health group.   Matter of fact DeVann is one of our reps on that 
and we are working on mental health and we're   working on um you know how do we how do 
we get them definitive care. Okay. Perfect.   All right so that's kind of the next five 
years and understand this number here. Yes ma'am. The the medical examiner's office uh 
it is a portion will have to come from our   budget but it'll be split uh proportionately 
by the case load that is in each County and   right now um well actually let me take that back 
the operating will be divided by that. We have an   agreement to fund that uh by each of the county 
has an agreement and we are in the design phase   right now to go off of Commerce and um we are 
probably uh my guess is 18-24 months out from   the actual building. Um but it will be funded by 
the three counties, I mean the four counties. Walton,   Okaloosa, Santa Rosa, and Escambia County. But it will be 
in our county. All right so now we're going to turn it   back over to Sabrina and we're going to talk about 
the different um pennies that we collect so. Yes sir. We have factored some of the considerations 
for inflation into this um we're also factoring   in that we're going to have access some to some 
grants uh but with the grants come matches so   that's why we need other revenue sources to 
do the matches and we'll talk about some of   those in a minute so I'm going to turn it over 
to Sabrina. What's that? Schools? So remember the   uh School Board is a group of elected officials 
that have the ability to tax the citizens just   like the Board of County Commissioners. So they 
are responsible provide all the school school   safety Etc and they do that and you saw that on 
Sabrina slide here. The school district is their   own taxing authority in other words. So the Board 
of County Commissioners handles the infrastructure,   the stormwater, parks and rec, etc. The school 
board two separate budgets two separate governing bodies. Yes ma'am. I'll let Brad handle that one. So we have 
15 independent fire districts, none of them are   controlled by the county. There are count right 
now, I think five special legislative districts and   Navarre is one of those. With a special legislative 
districts they are also their own governing board   and taxing authority. So Navarre, Navarre Beach, Midway, 
Avalon and Pace are special legislative districts.   They have their own governing body that are 
elected through the general elections through   um our supervisor of elections. You have to register 
and be on the ballot and then they are a taxing   authority. There is a bill going through the 
house right now um to adjust it where they   can't do Ad Valorem and they're going to have to which 
Navarre doesn't use that anyway but um Midway does   Avalon and Pace uses Ad Valorem. So that is outside 
of our budget. The other districts are what we   call MSBU, so we the board of County Commissioners 
sets the assessment rate and you see at the bottom   line below the Ad Valorem there's a fire assessment 
fee and that is based on in the other districts   Allentown, Berrydale, Bagdad, Munson, Skyline, etc. 
That is by the square footage of your house and   then they budget that, submt it to us, the board 
approves the conceptual of their budget and then   they responsible for the uh performance of that 
budget and the operational aspect of the fire   department. So our county does not have a county 
fire department. Our County does not have a County   EMS. We have a contract with Lifeguard Ambulance 
Service um and uh we are negotiating with them   right now on some contract stuff but right now we 
uh the subsidy for that is $679,000 a year and we   hold them to performance standards and um you know 
we're in discussions with there because nationwide   there's a shortage of EMTs, paramedics and our EMS 
system. If you've seen on the news lately, I mean   Escambia is going through struggles with their 
EMS. It's just a it's a systemic problem that um   it's going to take some serious legislative 
action to fix. So hopefully that answered your   question, a very long answer. I'm just glad Brad 
is talking more than me tonight because the other   three meetings, man I showed him up. So 
um we'll get back to taxes and just one thing   that we didn't kind of cover at the beginning. 
So we are covering revenue sources that go to   infrastructure. There are several other revenue 
sources that the county has but these are the ones   that we're covering tonight go to infrastructure 
go to capital because just as um Mr. Syzmoniak was   saying, we're trying to figure out how we fund 
$360 million in the next 5 years and it might   be after we all take a survey it might be that 
the people come back and say, you can take   15 years to do this $365 million. We're thinking 
we think you're doing a good job we don't want   it any faster. So so that's why we're here's the 
sources that we have to do infrastructure. So the   Road and Bridge Department is primarily funded 
by the gas tax. So when you go buy a gallon of   gas what are you paying in taxes? So roughly 26 
cents is going to the federal government. 28 cents   is going to state taxes and then 12 cents is coming 
to our coffers local government. Of course it goes   to the state and then they send it back to us. A 
small portion of this 28 cents comes back to us   in state shared revenue. That varies every year. 
So if you take all of these on the local level,   we have the 9th cent, 1 through 6th cent, the 1 
through five and then the state shared revenue.   All of those buckets together and the reason 
they're in buckets is because there's different   restrictions on each bucket. So um you can't um 
can't remember which one of them but you can't   use it to pave roads for example and stuff like 
that. So there's restrictions on it. So you've got   $10.9 million in gas tax revenue that comes to 
Santa Rosa County. All right, you take the tourism   factor. So in 2017 we had a HAAS study done and it 
said that basically 25% of our uh local option   sales tax revenue, it comes from tourists that come 
to Navarre Beach and other areas in the county stay   and hotels and so you take 25% times $10.9 and you 
have roughly $8.1 million that Santa Rosa County   citizens are contributing to gas tax. Divide that 
by our population that comes out to about $40 per   capita. So if you have I'll use Brad's example 
because I have way too many people in my family   but Brad has three so that's $120 
a year roughly his family contributes to gas   tax. I shouldn't, I probably shouldn't do math on 
the fly. So another revenue source is electric   franchise fees. So right now we have that is it's 
in place if you um have FPL as your electric   provider, a portion of your bill every month 
is electric franchise fees. So basically that   is a permit fee on electric utilities, on sewer 
utilities, water utilities, to use our right of   way. That generates $8.2 million. It's capped at 
$10 per residential customer per year. Commercial   customers uh pay more, however, a residential 
is capped at $10. This can be used as the board   sets policy for. So several years ago when the 
board implemented this they decided a that they   would put some toward economic development 
some toward Road and Bridge and then some   toward the general fund that pays um for general 
government services like maintaining this facility. Any questions on those two? Yes sir. Yes sir, so we actually have already seen a 
decrease in our gas tax, it has leveled out um   some um but we have already seen a decrease and 
the state is actually looking at other options   and going to more of a consumer um I can't 
think of what they called it but it's based   road miles. Yes. Um for those electric vehicles so 
basically everyone would pay pay a fee. Any other questions? All right. So next we have the sales tax. 
So in Santa Rosa County in 2022 because that was   the latest information that the state had for 
a full year. We spent as a county $4.5 billion   on taxable items. So when you go to the grocery 
store or you go buy clothes or you go to um buy   a sandwich from a fast food place, you are paying 
sales tax. So we spent $4.5 billion as a county in 2022. You can see it's different, so if you go 
buy a vehicle um if you go buy let's say you   go across to Pensacola and you buy that vehicle, 
the way the state statute works is that if it's   delivered in Santa Rosa County and it's tagged 
in Santa Rosa County, you pay Santa Rosa County   tax. Which is a great thing because our tax is 
less than a Escambia County. They are 7.5% we   are 7%. So with a half cent as you can see down 
here, you're capped, it's a called a discretionary surtax.  You're capped at expenditures or purchases 
at $5,000. So for easy math let's say you buy   a $20,000 vehicle, you're only going to pay the 
half cent on the first $5,000 of that purchase.   So it's not on the full amount like the other six 
cents are. So we take the $4.5 billion of taxable   value value that we spent in Santa Rosa County, 
that generates $315 million in revenue. It goes   to the State Department of Revenue. For Santa 
Rosa County ,we get half a cent of that back   on that which generates $16.1 million a year. So 
when you go pay for a new car, you're paying tax but only $16 million of that 
is coming back to Santa Rosa County. The School Board gets 
half. So it's a half cent to   the school district and a half cent to Santa Rosa County. So you take that by the t uh the tourism 
factor that we talked about earlier which is 25%   and I'd say it's probably greater than 
that now because our tourism has increased,   you have roughly $12 million that Santa 
Rosa County residents are contributing   to the tax revenue for the half cent. Divide 
that by the population that's roughly $60 per capita. 2022. 2023 just ended and they're still yeah so it was 
the only full year that we had. All of this is also   available on the website as well and one thing I 
wanted to point out about the capital investments,   if you go to that website you can click on 
transportation and planning and you can see   exactly what that $255 million is consisted of. 
So it it breaks it down. And also what is going   to come up on that website is as we do the new 
projects, you'll be able to track where we're at on   that project and you'll be able to see what we've 
expended, where if we're in the design phase, if   we've cut a check to the firm for a 60% delivery. 
So it's a it's a tool to help the citizens stay   informed on where we're at with the project. So 
we talked about the current ones already so we'll   just do a quick recap so Ad Valorem about $495 per 
capita, electric franchise fee $40 per capita, the   gas tax which is broken down really nicely there 
$40 per capita, the half cent is $60 per capita. Now   let's talk about the potentials. So we'll talk 
about impact fees first. So we have a we have   a little board here for impact fees. So impact 
fees first of all you have to do a study. We've   completed the study and uh have presented that to 
the board. So for roads $1,636 for a single family   dwelling. So that would be the impact fee based on 
the study that we had to complete to meet all the   statutory requirements, then you add if we include 
the parks and the law enforcement into that, $1,987   for a average single family detached dwelling 
okay and then there's some other variables based   on commercial, etc. But we won't go into all of 
those. Um so for roads, that would generate about   based on last year's data, that would generate 
about $3.3 million. Now one thing I want you   to understand about um impact fees is I'll give 
you an easy analogy because I like easy math, right?   So we have a new intersection and we're talking 
about District 2 so we'll talk about Highway 90.  There's a new subdivision going in off of Highway 
90, right? And it's going to trigger the need for   intersection improvements. Maybe that's a traffic 
light right? So what we have to do is we have to   do a traffic count and understand what is the new 
subdivision going to put into that that's going   to trigger the need for the intersection and 
then, I I like easy mouth like I said, so let's say   it's a 25%. So it's going to increase traffic 25% 
in that intersection and that is going to cost   us a million dollars to do that intersection 
Improvement. $250,000 can come from this fund   and $750,000 has to come from some other revenue 
source to do that intersection Improvement. Yes ma'am. Okay, so the there so there are some improvements, 
say a dollar well Dollar General typically don't   trigger one, say a commercial business goes 
in that triggers a need for a turn lane, right?   They're responsible for putting that turn lane in 
but we're only talking about impact fees right? So   if there the the ability for us to use impact 
fees right? Everybody else is still traveling   through that intersection, so that the intersection 
itself is still being traveled by the 75% of the   people who have been using it for years right? 
It's the other 25% that causes the need for   some improvement. We won't say, maybe it's not a 
traffic light, but maybe it's some other safety in   there that's a million dollars. I just want y'all 
to understand how we can apply the impact fees   because this right this is educational right? And 
and you want to say well just use all the impacts   because that's it. Well statutorily we can't, we 
will get in trouble for doing that. So we can   only use what is the true impact. Let's say we need 
to we need to add uh safety shoulders on the road.   Well we, same thing, we take the cost of the project, 
we add the capacity improvements, what is the   impact that caused that, and then we can only use 
that portion of that. So it's very complex deal. Um. You can, you can. It's just I the main point we're 
trying to get across is it's complex and there's   no one answer but everybody thinks that oh well 
you you have to do intersection improvements just   take it all from here. I just want to educate 
you that that's not possible. Um so that's the   real point about it uh we're going to get into the 
survey in a minute and this is where it's going to   be key for the citizens to get involved. So let's 
talk about a few more of the the potential ones. okay. They uh, they received the planning document 
that that everybody else has seen. Um like   I said, we're not going to get political tonight, 
and and that is yeah, right. That that is a board decision. I I think there's been a lot of 
discussion about affordable housing. I know   several of the Commissioners are concerned 
about affordable housing. Um but like I   said we're not going to get in into the political, 
all we're here is to educate you about all of the   potential options that are out there so that you 
can take the survey and give us your feedback on   what you think should be the priority order 
of where we look at. So, so jumping into other   potential ones, the toll, toll on Navarre Beach. 
Now I told you how much of toll the bridge was   going to cost us estimated. If you put we we 
did some variety in here 50 cent to a $1.50. We   we were playing with it and say, all right, well 
if you're a if you're a resident of Navarre Beach,   uh you what does that look like for a cost. If 
you're a citizen of Santa Rosa, what does that   look like and then what does it look like for 
everybody else, right? So we did some varying   scales and roughly you'll get about $2 million a 
year. So obviously nobody is going to give us the   money when we can only pay back two million 
a year and give us $150 million, right, would   take us a many many years to pay that back. So 
we will be seeking grants and other forms of   money to to pay for that bridge and uh we are 
in the very infinite stages of of that process   but it is it's going to have to be done uh we're 
having issues with the the pier pilings now that go   between it, we're having to do some emergency 
repairs on the seawall around it before we can   do permanent repairs, etc. So the other one is 
a stormwater MSBU. Now this one be would be   specific to a subdivision right? Let's say you're 
in a subdivision and you have three stormwater   ponds, you could put anywhere from $50 to $100 
a lot but the limit to that would be we can't,   if you live in Subdivision A, we can't use your 
money to go fix ponds or or do maintenance on   ponds in uh Subdivision B right so just 
understanding there's restrictions on that yes. It could be. We we probably look at a  different 
model than a subdivision MSBU. We'd probably look   at more like a stormwater MSBU. Uh but that is 
that is an option right? Yh water sewer franchise   fee, you saw uh Sabrina covered the electric 
franchise fee. We currently don't have one with   the water and sewer lines that use our Right of Way 
so that is an option. And remember we're all we're   here to do is educate you on those. We're we're 
not telling you on one or the other. We're saying   get informed and make a decision. The one that if 
the board so chooses that you will have to make   a decision on is this next one, an additional half cent
sales tax. Now the discussion we've been having is   we dedicate this to transportation infrastructure 
right? Um generate about $16.1 million a year and   that would go to all of these transportation and 
paving improvements that are needed over the next   five years. Um and what I I you know Sabrina said 
it y'all now know I have a household of three so   I'm going to contribute $180 a year right? If 
I don't want to contribute that much, I keep   my wallet in my pocket and I don't scan my my 
debit card and I don't spend money. If I want to   contribute more to that I talk my wife and to let 
me get some really cool toy right? So that's what I   I do like about that but also the cool thing about 
that is 25% of that is covered by people who visit   our County. How many of y'all have purchased 
something in Escambia County lately? I know I   have. Well guess what? You're contributing to their 
LOST fund and you're helping buy their fire trucks   and their Sheriff's Department cars and working on 
their roads and all that. So uh all of these others,   impact fees, tolls, stormwater, water sewer franchise 
fees are board action. This one the board has   to decide if we're putting it on the ballot but 
you the people have to decide is that a route you   want to go and what we want to do is just look 
at revenue diversification right? We want our   Ad Valorem, our property based tax because you saw 
it's so diverse on what is being paid in Santa   Rosa County, so it's not the fairest. That one is. So 
we want you to be informed and make that decision   how do you want the future to look. So with that 
being said let me get to the right one here where I...so this is the most important one. If your 
technology savvy, you can scan that QR code   right now and go take the survey if you don't 
like QR codes, go to our website www.santarosa.fl.gov,   click on the budget link and it will 
take you to a survey link and you can go in   there and take the survey. Maybe I don't know I'm 
going to say 10 minutes but probably less than   that. Go in and take the survey. As different 
questions you can prioritize any of these   potential funding sources that you want number 
one all the way down. You can say what's most   important in this 5-year plan. Is it roads or 
do you care more about Parks and Recreation?   However you want to rank them and that's why 
we're pushing that. That's why we're streaming   it live tonight because thank you to all of you 
who did come but this is a small percentage of   our citizens in Santa Rosa County. So we're 
trying to get, when I looked at it earlier   we had 133 people have taken the survey so 
far. We'd like that to be a couple thousand so. Okay. I know that we I looked at it this 
morning and I looked at it this afternoon   and there's definitely surveys coming in 
but if you have a problem yeah let me before   you leave let me give you Sabrina's contact 
information and if you have some problems you   just call her and we we can walk you through it 
so. All right questions? What else? Yes ma'am, you can. For the construction perspective for that, yes yes. We have discussed that in all of our 
negotiations uh for the last two years since uh   well just over two and a half years since me and 
DeVann took over over that. That was one of the   things that we wanted timelines and hold people 
accountable um so that will be in the contract   negotiation, there will be timelines specific 
for them to get the the task done. Now obviously   construction is is a challenge especially on a 
very busy roadway um and you know Pace Water is   doing a an improvement on their lines right now so 
that before we get there they'll be finished and I   I thought that was good, you know inter-agency 
cooperation with us and them to get that done.   But um I I will tell you the plan part right now 
if you're interested in is to have a dedicated   right-hand turn lane. Uh there'll actually be two 
right-hand turn lanes but DOT would only only let   us do one dedicated. Which means it'll be you can 
pull in that lane and turn right on 90 and never stop. The Tom Thumb and MacDonald's, and the reason 
why they wouldn't let us do two lanes is because you   cannot cross two lanes to go into a business. 
So the other one has to be lighted so when   the when the westbound light is red going the 
turn lanes will be green going that way you   only have to cross one one lane to get into those 
businesses and if not DOT would have to pay some   business impacts. Uh that is going to go, I want 
to say roughly a mile and then it'll condense   back in and then the same thing on the North 
End when we get to that construction, it'll go   from the uh PARA complex to Binewood. Binewood is about 
quarter to a half mile south of the Publix intersection   there. You know where that field is? Binewood is 
just south of that field. All right what else? I will tell you this that uh we have done 
some improvements to our Land Development   Code and uh this is actually our second round. 
I wasn't involved in the first round and the uh   subdivisions that are built to the new standards, 
we are not seeing that flooding in and um we are   working on other capacity improvements. These on 
the previous slide we showed you the the millions   of dollars we've invested in retrofitting. One 
of those is a Metron Estates that was built in   the '90 or earlier. Yeah uh we didn't even have to 
design standard back there. You know, same thing   with Holly by the Sea. Same thing with Avalon Beach 
Estates. I mean a lot of these older communities   were here when we had zero design standards. So 
we have to then go in and retro them and it's   it's called a hazard mitigation grant program 
HMPG and that's available after a storm hits the   State of Florida, they put some mitigation dollars 
aside. Um one thing we don't want to happen is be   the highest ranking on those because that means 
the storm hit us, right? We'd rather be like uh an   Irma or something like that to hit another part 
of the state, we get to pull some money off of   that but we've been very successful in those 
projects and those retrofits, you think about   you're you're doing a drainage uh retrofit 
to a subdivision that's 40 years old. It's a   pretty complicated deal to get the water. We had 
to do a property acquisition to do a pond where   house was uh which was obviously a house that was 
flooding because that's where the water was going.   So it made sense to do the pond there but it it's 
pretty complicated but I will tell you that uh we   just had very, I'm I'm talking about feels like 
a year feels like longer than a year actually,   very robust discussion on our Land Development 
Code and we' made some significant changes. Um   we have lot grading plans now, these infill lots 
that that um if you see in Hollly in Hollly by the   Sea, they were kind of stair stepping up um and 
then obviously the water is going to go to the   lowest point. You know we've done lot grading 
plans for the infill lots. Subdivisions have   to have lot grading plans. So I will tell you 
that the flooding of new subdivisions, unless   there is some catastrophic failure, which we did 
have one um that I remember we talked about and   uh we're we're doing a retrofit for that. We had 
another that the developer had some issues with   and and they did repairs on that. So and we've also 
improved our inspections. So before this we didn't   have a robust inspection team. I'll tell you in the 
last two years uh we've added six inspectors to go   out and inspect the actual base of the road when 
they're doing it, when they pave it, all of that. So   we're we're trying to do a better job of you know 
inspecting all of these things that are coming. Yeah now I will tell you cuz that's the 
world I came from. I came from Public   Safety and Emergency Management. Um to 
prepare to prepare that nobody floods   in a in a hurricane Sally or Hurricane Ivan uh 
we would never do it oh we have nobody living here. Yeah how to get out of your subdivision, 
yeah yeah I agree with that. I'm just saying, right, and I'm just saying for for the 
amount of rain I mean you there's not a pond   that we're going to build that can hold 
the amount of rain we got in Sally because   it was a long duration deal. So I mean we got to 
expect some level of flooding with that kind of event. What's that now? Set...right, yeah April 14th. But we also didn't have the widespread in 2014. 
We had heavy pockets but we didn't have 30 inches   over the entire County. Um there were pockets like 
Pace got a heavy rain the south end got heavy heavy. Gulf   Breeze got the worst of anybody in 2014. Um so 
I mean that that just my point is obviously   we want to prepare for flooding and we want 
to make sure our drainage is improved but we   have done things in the last two to three 
year to improve those processes and   make sure that as these people are developing 
we're inspecting them you know we're not we're   not taking the word of them. We're inspecting 
them and uh matter of fact in this last code uh   they have to call us at each phase of that and 
we go inspect it before we take over that road. So. Yeah we do  work. Right. We do, we have had those discussions 
with the state uh about widening some of our um   roads to make increased um evacuation routes but 
also understand that we encourage you to evacuate   tens of miles not hundreds of miles. You know if 
you're in a, you know I can't remember when we did   this back in 2008 I want to say the building 
code changed and our building code matter of   fact December 31st it just went up again and 
now if you're, I want to say from basically   182 south and you build a house it's got to be 
rated to 170 mph but that's right but if you were. I've been preaching that for years. But we do say run from water and hide from 
wind. You know because water is going to kill you   um I can tell you I I listened to many calls in 
Hurricane Ivan of people who did not evacuate and   they were in a storm surge. And water will kill you 
not that wind can't but water will kill you so. All right. All right what else? Yes sir. Oh sorry. Oh yeah how I would word it? Oh yeah oh 
you want me to do that for the live one. Here   here's what I was telling in the previous 
ones, if I could write the wording for the   ballot what I would say is for yes yes I support 
an additional half cent to go for infrastructure.   If it was no, I would write the wording is 
no I am happy with the road conditions in   Santa Rosa County. So that when they come to my 
office, I could just point to the wall and say   no the people have spoken, they're happy with 
the road conditions so you go back the next   election cycle and you get them to vote for 
a half cent because I can't fix it without a   revenue source, right? And we do have a revenue 
Source we can fix this $360 million with our   growth but it's going to take us about 15 to 20 
years. So if you're happy with us not doing the   capital improvements for 15 or 20 years, then 
let us know that but if you're not and you   want us to do more, let us know that and tell 
us which way you prefer the board to go with that. New, 1200 in October. No for the up to October yeah yeah. No no. Yeah. That's why we saw an increase in our Ad Valorem
collections this year of $4.7 million, that   is the new construction value from two years ago. 
So so it every year when the property appraiser   provides us these estimates, they have to say this 
is from new construction, this is just general   increases in in property values and $4.7 million 
was from new construction. Also um we that 1,200   CO's, that was about I think I have my notes 
over here I'll go find them but it was several   billion dollars in estimated construction 
cost. It was I think $3 million in estimated   Construction, $3 billion and so you know that 
number will continue for the next couple years.   However the tricky thing about Ad Valorem is when the 
property values decrease because of a recession   like we had in 2007, 2008, there is no cap at how 
quickly it can bottom out. So our Ad Valorem revenue   bottomed out, bottomed out very quickly during that 
recession and it took us 14 years to get back to   that revenue point that we were at prior to the 
recession. That's why we had to lay staff off   during that time frame, it was it was a horrible 
horrible time. Um had to send people home because   we didn't have the revenue to pay their salaries 
back then. That's when you're dependent so much   on Ad Valorem revenues that is that that's why um 
when it drops you're you're out. But we do have   a revenue stabilization plan, so we have $20 million 
sitting in the bank and for a a rainy day and we   also have uh for that's for disaster and then 
we have $5 million for revenue stabilization. Yes sir. Yes sir. One other slide that I I wanted to show 
is just how do we compare in the state, you know.   We're talking about all these revenue sources 
and you know what's going on everywhere else.   Well these are like-sized counties and our 
neighboring counties and as you can see our   our per capita total revenue for our budget 
is $1,300 in revenue. So again remember we have   to have a balanced budget so our revenues 
have to match our expenditures. We can't   spend more than what we have. State average is 
$2,200, that's why we're talking about revenue diversification. All right anything else? Yes sir. Correct. Yeah and we will seek grants for 
those, I mean we are we are counting on that   we will continue to be successful in our grant 
acquisitions, um a lot of the economic growth is   coming from grants, it's coming from the Triumph 
um fund and it's coming from the RESTORE fund. A   lot of our, well the economic development, it's 
not coming from the restore fund. The uh the   Triumph is that but the RESTORE fund is paving 
dirt roads to keep the water quality up. We're   doing environmental projects that are coming 
from the RESTORE fund,so and that's that BP   money that was set aside um for the impacted counties. 
So we will continue to leverage grants.   We will continue to invest in grants. I mean that 
is I hate to say it's free money cuz it's not,   it's coming from our pockets it's just is 
coming through the federal government but   we want to do everything we can to get more of 
those federal dollars here in Santa Rosa County   so it can offset the local tax dollars 
that are going toward these projects. Yes ma'am. It depends, there are strings attached there are 
requirements attached. Not not necessarily   bring in affordable housing. There are some 
programs that are um it just depends on which   pot of money we pull those from. We do which is 
why we have a robust grant department because   we do we have to do quarterly reports and 
annual reports on that money and make sure   that we have spent it accordingly. We have to 
have the make sure we have the right match.   That the the match that we use is allowed 
to be matched. Like for example we can't   take we can't take FEMA money and match it 
with treasury money, so we can't blend two   federal sources into one to make it whole, 
right? We have to find some other Revenue   that's not a federal revenue to match to 
25 but there are some that that allow us   to match it with some of the other programs 
that are federally funded so it it's it's very   complex uh which is why we have a great Grants 
Department so that we can stay on top of those. Most of those most of that kind of dollars we 
are not getting um the state has some programs.   It's really called incentive programs, that 
if a developer um guarantees a percentage   of um affordable or obtainable housing, 
I think it's the new word they're using,   obtainable housing within a area that they can 
qualify some for some Ad Valorem discounts to make   it worth their investment. Uh but we have 
not seen any of those in our County as of yet. Right right. I think that's why they're changing 
that word to obtainable, you know, because really   what might be obtainable in Santa Rosa County 
might not be obtainable in a small rural uh South   Alabama town. You know it all depends on your median 
and household income and you know what I mean it   it so it's not so I think that's why they're kind 
of changing to obtainable housing if that makes   sense. Because affordable is not affordable is 
not something we can use blanket across it right?  Because if you make $500,000 a year a different 
level of house is affordable to you than if you   make $40,000 a year right? So I think attainable 
is is the new kind of catchphrase. You had a question? It is going to be a big number. We are actually uh 
I'm sure if you followed any news you understand   the dilemma that the City of Milton's going 
through with theirs, so we are actually putting   in a package plant for economic growth because we 
want to be able to support those high-paying jobs   that are going to come into our industrial park. 
We have been in discussions about do we need to   expand our capacity at our plant so that we can 
cover some of the growth that's occurring in East   Milton. So and as far as that other discussion 
that is a policy um discussion which is the   board, so I encourage you to reach out to your 
Commissioners and encourage them to take those   policy discussions um to heart because you know 
we we are not the policy makers and and that's   why we didn't invite those because we wanted 
this to be informational right? We wanted to   help you understand the complexity of the revenue 
and budget yeah and I would and I will relay that   um we do have yeah matter of fact the district 
we're in right now District 2 commissioner is very   passionate about um septic to sewer conversions. 
We actually wrote a grant and we worked with all   of our sewer providers. Um 20-22 million roughly 22 
million to do septic to sewer conversions throughout   the county. Uh we have some going on in the south 
end right now um with Soundside Drive and that's   with the South Santa, I want to call them Gulf Breeze 
but South Santa Rosa Utilities. Um we have a plan   with some in Navarre. Uh Pace Water is on board. 
Milton has a project in there. I think there's   is a planning grant but um we are very interested 
in that. No that is us that is a comprehensive plan   to try to and we're trying to tackle the ones 
closest to our waterways and then working back.   So obviously the peninsula water on both sides 
but the core right around 98 is pretty covered   anyway but we're working on the closest to the 
water bodies and work back in. Uh the Pace one is   a project down in the Garcon Point area and then 
um you know we just we I told you about East Milton. So   we're struggling to get that resolved but you 
will see some action on the board coming up as   we're in the design for our package plant right 
now, which was really the initial design was for   this Economic Development and the growth that's 
coming. We have our our parks are starting to see   some development in there. We've had some 
groundbreakings. We have a building going   up right now. We have a a lot of uh great things 
coming out there. It's all dependent upon sewer   capacity so we have decided to invest in that 
to assure that we have those high paying jobs   because that will put revenue back into the county 
that we can continue to to grow that area. So what else? They do. I would encourage you to reach out to your 
senators and your legislation delegation and   encourage them to do that. You know here's what 
else I'll tell you I haven't thrown this in   before, I'm going throw out to y'all tonight is if 
you want people to stop coming to Florida, get our   governor to quit promoting the great free state 
of Florida because they're coming here because   we have a great state. Right? I tell people 
all the time why do I love it here because   I'm an outdoorsman, right? I can freshwater fish, 
brackishwater fish, and saltwater fish all in the   same time trip. I can leave the dock and get every 
one of my poles out. I can be out in the Gulf of   Mexico fish and I can come all the way back up in 
the Blackwater River and fish. I mean that's pretty   cool when you like to fish right? You like to hunt? 
I love to hunt. I got all the opportunities around   here to do that. We have all of the state forest 
um which is a huge chunk that's protected in our   County. If you don't know um all the acquisition 
the state has done in our County we have a lot of   protected land in our County. So what we have 
to do is focus on how do we smart growth the   other areas that we have left because I'm telling 
you they're coming. They're coming. We are the, us   and Walton County, are the fastest growing in 
the Panhandle. Um now Walton theirs is more a   condensed growth in the South growth in the south 
end of their County. Um our growth that's obviously   intense in the South End of the county but we're 
also the the Pace, Milton and now East Milton is   going to start growing and then it's it's going 
to push North. So if we want to protect what land   we have we have to have some serious conversations 
about how do we manage growth in Santa Rosa County. Yes sir. They are coming but also understand well our 
our our economic development is typically 24   to 48 months out so if you if you tap the breaks 
too much they go find another opportunity to   be in and a a uh a stagnant county is a dying 
County and if if we don't grow I can tell you   the only way we can sustain the services is 
to to, yeah I mean, if we're not if we're not   growing we are literally dying and and we have 
to look for if we don't have the same support   of new growth coming in, then we have to look at 
adjusting our our revenue sources accordingly. Yes ma'am. That's right. Quality of life. That's right. Saw a hand up back here. Right but there he does have a good point there 
will be an impact for housing needs. I mean if we   get those workers to come fill those jobs they 
have to have housing. The same, the other struggle   we're having right now and we've been working with 
our military, um and obviously we want to protect   our bases cuz if if you think about losing Whiting 
Field, what would that do for Santa Rosa County? Um   if we lost the Hurlbert Field and Eglin what 
would that do for Okaloosa and Santa Rosa County?   So we want to protect our bases but what they're 
struggling is is housing for the service men and   women who are out there and they're reaching 
out to us say we have a problem. We need more   housing so we can continue to support the mission 
of our national security. So you know, I mean when   when we're having the military come to us saying we've 
got a problem, I mean we we need to be able respond.   Because without those I mean that that's a huge 
economic driver in our County. So all right, what else? All right. Well thank y'all 
for coming. We appreciate the   dialogue. Thank you'all for being very 
engaged. Don't forget, here it is take   our survey. If you can't scan QR codes, 
go to our website hit the link. Thank you.