##VIDEO ID:O_6l9v0A40A## oh oh n we're going to go ahead and call the code enforcement magistrate um proceedings for November 14th 2024 to order uh the way that the process works is you will be uh your case will be called we're not called in any kind of order um kind of have a a Rhyme or Reason here um but if you have the agenda in front of you it's not called pursuant to the order on the agenda but you will be called if you have checked in with the county if you have not done that I encourage you to check in with the county now to let them know that you are here for your case uh the way the process works is once a case is called you will come up to the um table in the front you will be sworn and any of your witnesses will be sworn in the county will present its case first and then it will be your opportunity to present your case um you cannot present any evidence or testimony until such time as the county has rested its case um but then you are certainly welcome to present any Witnesses or or evidence that you have I will make a decision here today with respect to whether there has been a violation or not or whether with respect to if you're here for a lean case with respect to whether or not um you are still in violation outside of the order that has already been imposed um if you're here for a first time violation and you're found to be in violation you stand to have a penalty of up to $250 a day imposed if you're here for repeat violation you stand to have up to $500 a day imposed for a violation that's found so we're going to go ahead and get started let's have um the swearing of County Witnesses in um if anyone who's going to provide um testimony for the county if you'll um let's go ahead and swear those individuals in if you are not providing testimony for the county you will be sworn in as part of your case when you come up here um so if you are have a private case ma'am you'll come up at that time you do not need to be sworn in now we'll we'll swear you in it individually so okay the county individuals do you solemnly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do okay so we're gonna go ahead and call um case number 2465 cesm that's our confidential case thank you Mary yes yes for the record Mary Robinson planner and code enforcement officer with development services of seal County I'm here to provide a timeline from the uh if you give us a second so so she can come up yeah good afternoon can I get you to raise your right hand do you solemnly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I thank you okay all right this is case 24- 64 cesm 322 Shadow Bay Boulevard Longwood Florida this is an update from the September 12th 2024 special magistrate hearing um going to read into the record uh timeline and I'll be mentioning numerous dates and what occurred on those particular days on um and it's all within this year on 918 our development review manager provided uh the homeowner a list of nine vendors that seminal County uses on their Master Services agreement list as she was actively pursuing compliance and wanted to hire a construction company this master service list is a public um document and I just wanted to put that in the record on 9:25 the homeowner rented a pump to pump water into the retention Pond of Shadow Bay Club property on 9:26 through 27 hurricane Helen moved through the State of Florida so that delayed some things on 9:30 the property owner came in and met with myself and Vlad seski to discuss the small sight plan process as that was a process that was needed in order to um move forward with constructing the repairs on the pipe in her yard on 101 um the homeowner retained uh Michael Brooks professional engineer he came in and met with staff and submitted the small site plan for approval of the repair of the pipe on that same day staff approved the small site plan for 320 to Shadow Bay on 102 the homeowner began receiving quotes to do the repair work multiple vendors were contacted and referred to Michael Brooks PE to review the plans 103 Providence construction and development provided a bid which the county staff reviewed as a courtesy to the homeowner on 10 n and uh 10:24 um I me I'm yeah 109 and 10 I'm sorry hurricane Milton makes landfall in Florida so the county was closed for several days and this also again held up um moving towards compliance on 1016 and 17 the homeowner is in communication with Providence construction on 1018 she signed the contract contract with this construction company on 1021 Providence construction contacted the homeowner and cancelled the contract as they were informed by their insurance company that their insurance would not cover any residential construction on 10:22 the homeowner contacted jbb Enterprises for a construction bid uh 10:31 the homeowner signed the contract with jbb 111 through 113 the homeowner continued to pump into the pond at Shadow Bay Club uh and on early November 116 the homeowner again rented the pump for another month and it continues to run on 117 County staff held a preconstruction meeting on site at 3:22 Shadow Bay the attendees were jbb Enterprises Michael Brooks the PE engineer the homeowner County staff which was myself and vad seski and County engineering inspectors we had extensive discussion about the site work and the site work permit was issued and paid for on 11:13 BB jbb emailed the a letter to the homeowner with a timeline of work which they were able to move up from their previous commitment on so on this month 11:26 they will start dewatering on 122 they'll start removing the manhole and repair the sto storm drain and it's anti anticipated that the restoration will be complete by 126 provided all the all goes well and we don't have any severe weather events and that is my presentation okay would you like to submit the timeline into the um record yes do you have any objection to the timeline being to the record okay we will accept U the timeline into the record um would you like to add any information uh basically if you can wave the fee because I am um still renting the pump also I do have to pay the construction work um jbb Enterprises and um I also want to just make a small comment that the 20 foot East Min consists of lot eight and seven and the construction will be on both Lots uh due to the fact that the pipe runs down Lot 8 to the pond and one of the manholes is on that section just portion of it so my fence is going to be coming down and the neighboring plants will have to be removed or salvaged and and you're working that out with your contractor I'm assuming yeah and I already told my neighbor that I'll let her know when they start doing the construction she wants to salice her plants okay and I see there are a couple different things that I see I it was given some information that that you provided um yes um one of them is that um the HOA that I have at my property never existed it was created but never inactive I mean never active so that's just documentation I also provided a sunbiz corporation which shows it on there about the timeline of when it was never active Okay and then it shows you know when the attorney brought to my attention subject to covenants restriction and easement the first page indicates only if it was set up the HOA so I'm not denying there's an easement I was told there was construction eement I can see the configuration I can see what transpired I'm not in denial about it and I am still going forward and doing the jbb Enterprises construction to satisy myself because of the wash outs I was having and satisy Shadow Bay Club as well okay I appreciate that because I we're we're not going to rehear no the facts of the case um but I I do have a little bit of conflicting information I have in the timeline that it looks like um that things can be wrapped up in December but then I see um that the work would um take approximately a week at the earliest the week would be completed by Christmas no that's not correct um I told them to put a rush on it as possible but we are waiting for ads they said U four weeks for the supplies but he already put the request in so it should be coming in Wren that new time frame when is our December hearing 1212 um I will be out of the country from I think is uh the 6 or 7 um till the 15 of December yes okay but I'm trust me I I want this done as much as everybody else wants it done okay so I'm going to find that you have been making um a great deal of progress and I appreciate that you are working with the county that's one of the most important things to me app to notice that a person is trying to work toward and doing the things that they're being asked to do by the county um I think that you're going above and beyond by renting the pump um and so obviously you're not going to want to continue doing that as long as you you know know if you don't have to do it um but I know that especially during the holidays things get kind of um people work slow more slowly during the holidays and so um even though it looks like to me you might be able to be done um in that first week of December and with you being out of town during our meeting I'm going to take that into consideration as well and so our January meeting is January 9th yes is that correct okay so I'm going to amend my prior order and I'm going to give you a new compliance date of January 88th okay and if you have not come into compliance by January 8th then all of my um the penalty and everything that was imposed in my prior order would go into effect you would also need to be here on January 9th um for the hearing even if you in compliance um because we'll have a matter of fees and costs that we'll have to deal with um but the penalty would not go into effect unless you were out of compliance at that January 9th hearing I I also had to add um I appreciate that thank you very much I'm grateful I had to get a HELOC loan um to pay for this cost it's a second mortgage but everything's okay and I have it all in control and like you said I am doing it you're doing it to to fix the issues that you were exp my due diligence to be um uh in compliance and I appreciate that okay so I will um the continuance will go into effect uh through January 8th and then we'll have you back here on January 9th okay thank you I do have the money on the site for the gentleman to get the work done I'm I told them I assured him that please I need it done and you know now I appreciate the January 8th and the 9th okay thank thank you you're welcome okay let's put this with the am I dismissed yes thank you no you're fine okay the next case we're going to call is 2296 cesm that is the Margaret Jack correct cop of the power okay good afternoon do you have any uh is your client present what is your client presentor okay no that's right okay go ahead uh Jason Rucker simol County building department uh this is case number 22 96 CSM for Margaret a jack 105 Temple Drive Sanford uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on October 133 2022 and an order was issued giving the respondents a compliance date of January 12 2023 Affidavit of non-compliance was filed on January 13 2023 um an Affidavit of compliance was uh after inspection um was filed on September 17 2024 the administrative cost in this case uh for the clerk is $22.85 the administrative cost um to process this case for the inspector was $700 $752 with a total of $917 87 recommendation is that the special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of $3,750 for the 615 days of non-compliance from January 12th 202 three through and including September 15 2024 at $50 a day and a fine shall continue to acre at $50 per day for each day the fation continues or is repeated after November 14th it's over with though it's compliance so then we're not okay so um and it came into compliance on the 17th that's when I was back out that's when I got the call to go back out there okay so really then it the fine would stop the 16th cuzz you verified compliance on the 17th correct okay okay jet uh I represent Miss Jack in this matter and she's a distant uh resident here she doesn't live here this is property that she unfortunately allowed some of her family members to not do what they should have done uh I have gotten involved and helped her to uh evict the tenants who may or may not should have been there but she is in the process cleaned it up she's trying to get everything and get this property sold which I believe has happened and we're just requesting that the lean be waved and have her pay the administrative fees Associated and Mr ruer advised me that he had no objection to that if that's okay with you your honor um she really wants this property sold she realizes she's a you know of age that she should not be involved in this and I'm afraid it got away from her can you um tell me a little bit why I mean it it was under a prior magistrate so I'm not um pry to the the initial facts other than I do know it was a shed without a permit but it took an awfully long time for her to did she not get the notices do you know I do not think that she has ever told me that your honor to be honest with you she advised me I probably got involved in this probably I'm going to say 3 months ago okay to get people that were there maybe it was four months ago there were people there that were not supposed to be there I think um staying there and so I went in there and evicted them for her had to go through the whole process to get the sheriff out there to uh lock it up and she has now gotten possession of it she's doing a better job of keeping an eye but she just doesn't really have the means I think to come down here and check on it nor does she have somebody here and so she knows she needs to sell it she's got a contract to sell it and really is just trying to move forward um but I think that people took advantage I I believe that because it was some distant family members they were supposedly taking care of this but I'm sure the notice got to her in Virginia Beach I'm not saying that um okay so um I'm going to find that the property is obviously in compliance now um but because this went on for so long I'm going to impose um a fine in the amount of $1,000 and I'm going to impose the County's cost of 91786 representing $22.85 to the clerk and $752 related to the inspector and um do think she can pay that in 30 days or would she need longer would that bill at 30 days she should be able to pay it U will that come directly to her will you send it to my office I will send it to it'll be in the form of an order and it will come to your office okay and then the payment there will be payment instructions on where the payment is to be made sounds perfect your and then if it obviously is not paid within 30 days it will be recorded to constitute a lean against the property okay okay all right thank you thanks for your time judge I big excuse yes yes okay let's go ahead and 2277 cesm BNB land holding okay and if you all will raise your right hand you solemnly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do and I have all three of you I just don't know who's too so if you'll identify yourselves for me my name is James Betts I'm the owner okay I'm Steve Saha I'm the engineer okay I'm Ken Nelson I'm a contractor okay all right good afternoon Jason Rucker simal County building department inspector this is case number 2277 cesm um located at 3468 East sr436 naakka violation charged is the simol county code chapter 40 105.1 uh this case was originally heard by the special Magistrate on October 13 2022 and an order was issued given the respondents a compliance date of January 12th 2023 with a fine of $50 per day by the to continue or acre for each day the violation continues or is repeated after January 12 2023 an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector on January 24th 2023 an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on August 6 2024 on August 8th an order was issued given the respondents a compliance date of November 13th 2024 with the meeting scheduled for November 14th 2024 um administrative cost in the process for the clerk was $22 47 the administrative cost for the inspector total $79536 with a total cost of $9 9783 for both recommendation that the special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of $ 33,6 15 for 673 days of non-compliance from January 12th 2023 through and including November 14th 2024 at $50 per day uh F shall continue to acre and at $50 per day for each day the violation continues or is repeated after November 14th 2024 that concludes my presentation okay so had anything transpired between the August meeting and the November and today for them trying to work out compliance to my knowledge no so you haven't been contacted no me okay just an update okay looks like we got an update today um you want me to read the email well do you know what has gone on or is it is it inform or is that from the property owner uh this is from an attorney an attorney representing you yeah yeah unfortunately she's not well she's got Co today and uh she couldn't be present she was present at the last meeting um but I don't know what I actually don't know what she wrote so okay so I'm gonna not take that right now I'm going to go ahead and and let you go ahead and present to me and talk to me about what's going on um since the last meeting that we've had um before the before the meeting that we had actually with you the last time um we employed I employed both uh Steve and Ken who are present here today uh to um assist on getting us through this matter um but um at present we are still working on moving forward um trying to have a meeting I think we've got a meeting with we've got a meeting with the uh building department on Tuesday morning at 10:00 a.m. to go over the rest of the plans and we're like at 99% of compliance with the plans and Steve's the architect so he knows more about that yeah just to you know just to clarify what has happened since August that there was a new plan submitt made and I believe we had received comments uh for those plans in October and uh that's currently what we're working on so you you submitted those plans to the building department and were working with someone in the building department corre we weren't working directly with the inspector because it's a violation that has to go through the plan you know approval process so we've been working with the building department okay so who would why was that not communicated to you is that okay apparently it's on the screen and I wasn't aware of it I just wasn't aware of it okay so they have been working toward from if from you taking a a quick look at yes it looks like they have submitted and they have been trying to work on it trying to submit plans to go through the plan review process okay so do we have any idea um of the length of time that it's going to take you all to get your permit meeting at 10 o'cl Tuesday morning we're sitting down with all the plans reviewers so hopefully we'll iron out the restor isues at that time and you know we'd like to ask for like a 60 or 90day extension least just make sure it gets through the building department is there anyone that can speak to um whether we think they're close enough to where December is an appropriate um extension or whether um J going into January is necessary it's no review required um or there was no review required for um site plan which is a planner that reviewed it so it doesn't need any further review from zoning okay so they're strictly with um the building plans reviewers to iron out whatever would need to be done with their design professional so if they're getting feedback on Tuesday it's as quickly as he can turn around their plans and get that ironed out so if you would want to bring them back in December to make sure that they're moving that along I don't think that's unreasonable yeah I'm and and the reason for not giving 60 or 90 additional days is because this has been going on since 2022 so it needs to be rectified um and I am cognizant of the fact that you have in fact started working as as soon as um it looks like as soon as possible after our maybe there was a a month or so that there was nothing done as far as communication but it looks to me like obviously you would have had to be working on the plans to be able to submit something so I'm I'm cognizant of that as well so um can I just apologize um even though it's gone on some time what had happened but the time before is I had hired a contractor who um didn't do what he was supposed to be doing um I and he's basically took my money well and I also see that you all have already paid the administrative costs that were um put into place um at the last meeting so I appreciate that as well because I think that that shows uh good faith on your part as well um so I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to extend your your compliance date to December 11th and there will be a hearing then on December 12th again I don't want to have to continue it again okay so let's um make sure that we are doing everything in your power and I realize that it's um it's the holidays but you know that's where we are so um I'll continue till uh December 11th for compliance with um the compliance hearing to be held on December 12th can I say one thing sure um if we go through the plan review on Tuesday and everything gets hashed out and it still takes him a week or two to get us you know like rest of the comments resolved um we're still looking to get in permit around December 7th or 8th right and so if you do then there are no issues well we're not in compliance then we're just have a permit your all you need is a permit that gets you in compliance oh okay all right with this proceeding now if you don't follow through after that then there are some other issues that could happen but okay okay um then I'm going to go ahead and continue till December 11th thank you 2359 cesm Allstar assisted living facility anyone who's going to give testimony if you'll go ahead and raise your right hand you Solly swear airm the testimony are about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth if you'll identify yourselves please Morales uh owner Hector Morales husband of the owner Joe Dev the building contractor okay good afternoon Jason Rucker simal County building department inspector uh this is case number 2359 cesm uh located at 1131 West Lake Brantley Road um the violation SEL county code chapter 4 pendex a section 105.1 uh on SE on September the 14 2023 special magistrate issued an order given the respondents compliance of December uh 15 2023 and scheduling a compliance hearing for January 11 2024 um there have been several Affidavit of non-compliance um and uh let's see on January 11th 2024 special magistrate issued an amended order extending the respondents to February 7th um there have been several extensions uh an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed uh by the inspector on August 22nd 2024 on September 12 2024 special magistrate issued a fourth amended order uh for extending the case uh code enforcement Board office was closed due to weather conditions uh November 14th 2024 so we didn't have that meeting so that's why it was moved to this meeting um the administrative costs for the clerk are $380 182 the administrative cost for the inspector was $892 uh that leaving a total cost for both of 1,190 and2 uh recommend special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of 1,800 $50 for 37 days of non-compliance from October 9th 2024 through and including November 14th 20124 at $50 per day and a fine shall continue to acrew at $50 per day for each day the violation continues or is repeated after November 14 2024 that concludes my presentation okay so any contact whatsoever uh not within the last month what about prior to when they were supposed to have um have come into compliance by October 9th um Megan zorski project coordinator for development services um the uh Pro the property owners have been in um a few times with um our project managers upstairs um they have applied for variance which we discussed at the previous hearing um and that we kind of putting to the side they did apply for um their special exception um however that application was not made until recently and it was paid for on November 4th so because of the hurricane that would have been after their compliance hearing so if you want to take that into consideration um but they did apply however no uploads have been made so the application has been made the application application has been paid for but we're now waiting for the documentation in order for it to be routed to a project project manager for review um of the project itself that documentation has not been provided so that's the status of the project so they've made application but there's no documentation for a project manager to review so I recall at the last hearing us having a discussion about them choosing which path they were going to take um so they chose the variance path and then decided not to go that route well the variants we had we paused it because they needed to make a decision on whether or not they were going to utilize the structure for a shed or if they were going to pursue utilizing it for another purpose such as an Adu or living space or an office so that is now what they need to apply for under the special exception the use needs to come before the variance because the variance specifically lays out the use okay so the variance is on hold until the special exception is addressed okay so it was whether they were going to do the special exception or not that we were kind of or if they were going to revert the structure back to okay okay okay so okay the last hearing you gave me um the opp opportunity to choose to do the variance which I came well I received an a email or something to come and do it because that were supposed to be before a particular meeting so I came uh the person in charge wasn't here so I had to come back and did it the variance after that uh they said um J Jillian Jillian is a a planner coordinator she came to me and she uh said that I have um I can attend to a meeting so that was a meeting with the different departments here and they mentioned that I have to do the special exception before I didn't stop anything I'm just following your directions or the people he the direction so that made me confused when you asked me to do something I do it and then they said no it's not that you have to do this so I need to receive guidance okay so I I think the the concern is it was your choice on what you were going to do with this struct structure yes and I email back and says my original intent is that is one of the options that's what I want to do so and then they she said you have to do the special exception first right but that was the election on what you were going to use the structure for yes I said the original intention is to make it uh indwelling but you instead of making that decision ahead of time you just went ahead and filed for the variance that's why I'm being tall here well what your quickest fix was the variance for it to go back to a shed and so after you file the variance you then make the election that you want to put it back to your original intent which is a dwelling and so that's where the disconnect is you made your decision on what you wanted to use the the structure for after submitting the variants the variance wasn't the only option that you had at the last hearing at the last hearing you were told you just need to make the decision what you were going to do with the the property so if if the conversation with the county was that the quickest route I just want to get this taken care of they would have told you a variance because you needed a variance for the shed but it would have to be reverted back to the shed but since now you have made the election and you made the election after the the compliance State we're finding ourselves here again um with another need to to do something different so the meeting that we got upstair with the the all departments that were for them to to give us is that was a chance to do it that way and that they said yes you have to make that choices and they mentioned you got to do this before December 2nd H December 2nd isn't a date on here anywhere so I'm not really sure where that would have come in so it's the cut off for oh for the January okay for the next hearing for the next hearing so there's multiple layers to this going back to when this first came up where I was aware that it was an Adu on a residentially zoned property with a commercial use it's always come back to the special exception if she wanted to alter this in some way shape performance always been please go talk to a planner about adjusting your special exception please please please and then it's been nope we're going to revert it back to a shed when we finally got everybody in a room and yes we had a meeting with a bunch of staff and it went very well it was very productive um we heard their concerns we understand their concerns and it is something that hopefully new software will solve in the future um where all of our departments speak internally um they also have responsibilities that if we tell them you need a special exception if you're going to do this when they say no we're going to do a shed if they want to now they want to go back to using his living space the staff doesn't mind whichever they way they want to use it it's always the power's always been with them to make the decision whether it's living space or a shed right and that's been the discussion from day one variance or special exception right because that's my original intention so if the my only way was to convert it to shed that's what we were do but in that meeting apparently they show that I have the option to try to make it the my original intention so that's why I move forward in that direction I understand that but when you first came to them you told them that you were going to convert it back to a shed which is why they had you file the variants so because that was the only choice at that moment no because we had the discussion at this meeting that you needed to decide which one you were going to do and so after the meeting it seems that you made the decision that you were going to convert it back to a shed then when you had another meeting with multiple County staff and you heard that it was possible then you decided again to change again I excuse me so I think one of the things that we also have to look at is when we look like it's jumping we also have to take in consideration what is the cost because when you're saying you're just converting it back to a shed but do you see what I'm saying so we need to have to cuz we've already spent enough money to come here and be here and be here and be here okay and do you know do you not think that the county has spent money to bring you here I mean we I don't know how many times I don't recall ever seeing you maybe you have been this my second time okay so um so I'm just trying to say is this is that you know at the very beginning and and let's just go back a little bit further because this particular situation arose in 1991 okay this this issue with this building should have been taken care of a long time ago before we even should have been in here okay okay but I think I've heard enough what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to impose the the fine of $50 a day and I'm going to impose it retroactive back to October 10th which is the date that you all should have been in compliance um the fine will run $50 a day until such time as you come into compliance and um if you do come into compliance um I believe that the county probably has a mechanism for you to ask for a fine reduction at that time and you can certainly do that um but just like you think your time has been wasted I feel now like mine has been wasted it as well so um I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to impose back EXC I'm going to go ahead and impose back effective um to the October 9th date I'm also going to impose County um costs and the amount of $1,902 can you pay that within 60 days or do you need longer any longer how long do you need the contractor want to how long do you need need ma'am I'm asking you how long you need 90 90 okay okay yes sir do you have something you'd like to add I I I do can you come to the microphone I would like to say something I I've been here well the original uh meeting which was the first one and I'm a little confused as as a contractor because I sat here and I actually witnessed um everything that that that happened and she was told from the beginning to get permits from the very day one that she was brought here she was told to get permits that's exactly what she did she she moved on we I gave her the uh the connection to get the permits as far as the architect whatever it took to get the permits okay so we get the permits I I guess my question is why would we get why would she go as far as getting permits and then say well you can't put this you can't have this building the way it's supposed to be she doesn't have permits does she application she has an and she doesn't have a permit I I understand that but but when when I when I stood here and the building official was actually there and we we tried to find a solution to fix the problem the problem was at the time was she didn't have permits to do what was supposed to be altered or what was altered at at the building yes sir I'm not going to rehear the case if you have something new that you need to to say to me I tell you that there's a lot of confusion in my end because I try to reach people in the building Department themselves and to this day I've left four messages for I think Megan her name is Megan from zon she's not in the building department okay and I have yet get my office has yet got response from her verbal messages that I left on there and actually as far as Monday this Monday I left the message again in reference to this case Okay Okay Monday was a holiday but nonetheless were you present at the meeting where everyone had the meeting where there was I'm trying to get clarification of what Pro what what needed to be uploaded into the project docs because all it is is very vague it says upload and that's it it doesn't what documents are you needing well sir if you're a contractor you should probably know what documents are needed not necessarily because it's there's a lot of documents I can give what exactly do you need to were you at the meeting that they that these individuals had no it was not okay I'm gonna um do you have anything else you want to add that's it okay um I'm gonna go ahead and and uh stick with my prior ruling um the fine will be imposed effec of October 9th 2024 um $50 a day and um costs in the amount of $1,902 to be paid in 90 days and if you follow through and do what you need to do to come into compliance with this then the county does have a procedure for you to have a fine reduction thank you J okay the next case we're going to call is 2043 cesm um Neve Castillo Hello both raise your right hand you Solly swe from The Testament you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth afternoon Jason Rucker simol County building department inspector this is case number 243 CS CM uh address is 209 cus Drive Sanford Florida uh viol in violation of simal county code chapter 40 appendix a Section 105 0.1 construction without the reir permits this case was originally heard uh on June 11th 2020 and an order was given to the respondant in a compliance date of August 12 2021 um there have been a few affidavits of non-compliance and extensions given um on April 13 202 morning 3 an issue an order was issued given him another extension an Affidavit of non-compliance by the inspector reinspection July 20 2023 uh the administrative cost to process this case for the clerk is $676 the administrative cost to process this case for the inspector was $688 24 uh giving that a total of$ 1,35 .40 recommend that the special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of $4,550 for 491 days of non-compliance from July 13th 2023 through and including November 14th 2024 at $50 per day and a fine shall continue to acre at $50 per day for each day the viol continues or is repeated after November 14 2024 that concludes my presentation okay do you have anything you'd like to add oh hi and the architect need remove the Stu he remove I bring he say no now you need change the day the 2023 for the new um uh code I say okay my husband tried to bring the new one he say no I need a fill it out myself the architect sent the PDF to the county in my in my email too do we have anything that where yeah we have an application that was done um in 2020 that's a paper permit because when I bring they told me oh no no I don't I don't bring here I came here I went to the second floor the fifth floor next time you come in again you writing something I came you no no it's okay it's okay tell me what the codes are the the the 2022 two items and the 23 items what are those on the in the in the system what are those things above the green box what what has occurred what is it those are just all issued where it says uh DN those are issued the vo is avoided permit uh because either they didn't follow through with it or the contractor decided not to do anything with it so that 2020 permit was voided the no I no the 2020 permit that's in green is is still in plan Jack I I mean they would have to update their plans because there have been to my knowledge there have been two code cycles that have changed okay and then the DN what what does that mean it's complet done it's completed okay um and so whatever those were we we don't know what they were for but they weren't related to this looks like there was an electrical permit in a solar according to the type the number type okay so electric and solar those are something different than the issue that's before us okay so I guess the problem that I'm having with this is there were multiple um extensions given by a prior magistrate um and then your last extension was given for you to come into compliance um on July 13th of 2023 and that didn't occur and you haven't done anything have a question you honor um what do you think is the best route for this should we just demolish the little shed and just I keep telling my mom to do it since day one and I know she's been trying very hard to pass all of the codes and everything they be asking she's been spending a lot of money but at the same time I'm like Mom just get rid of it what like because I realized been expl me what I realized it's been a few years but um I don't know I've I've come multiple times too I've been to the second floor too and is this just as simple as them getting a permit they've already gone through the special exception process to have this so they're literally at building permit she needs to turn turn in her plans to the building division so they can be routed through for review when was a special exception approved um I don't was it after this case was being worked on because that's it came to your attention that it needed a special exception the planner that handled the special exception came and gave me that information this afternoon before the hearing thank you uh was approved in 2022 so oh actually excuse me it finally went to hearing so by the time they did all the public hearings that they need for special it was approved on September 12th 2023 so about a year a little over a year it's been approved and we still don't have a permit and the building code has changed a few times which is why they need the revised plans can you tell me why you didn't do anything in between the time that you went through the process to get the conditional use approved and from from from what she told me is because the the architect apparently R was out or so something I don't know exactly what happened I know he had I know when my mother about the about the property a long time ago it came with that structure um and I believe she was actually she came here to get a variance for her fans and that's when they found out that um I guess that was not legal to have there or whatever the issue was and I advised to her I'm like Mom just get rid of it you don't use it just demolish it but um you've gone through the expense of getting um the conditional use approval and it really is just um the plan at this point that needs to be submitted appropriately I um and I do I've expressed this concern to the county before I have the concern that we've we're waiting a full year to bring this back that this wasn't brought back right after there wasn't compliance especially since there was a compliance date issued in June July 13th we probably should have had the hearing you know right away and I understand there's some old things that we're trying to clean up um but it does concern me because then it's it goes off the person's radar as well and because she went to the expense of getting um the conditional use had she not done that I think that it might be a little different but because she has gone through the expense to do that that tells me that she did try to work through your processes and do what she needed to do um so what i is it do you think it's as simple as for getting um could she get a permit issue before December cuz we we have that depends on if the plans are meet today's code are the were the plans revised already he fixed the dates because he was 2020 he fixed 2023 because on his it's okay what about 2024 like3 the code from2 these are theodes for now he did send the PDF form if I'm not uh I don't know if you guys have them already just yes no I think the AR sent 155 156 the PDF to the county yes been M yes today okay I guess he just sent and then we also have him here okay so what I'm going to do is I'm going to continue um your compliance date to December 11th okay that would give you the time to do what you need to do to get your permit that will hold off um the imposition of these penalties which are you know pretty hefty we're talking $25,000 obviously the cottage you know that's where you do want to do the cost benefit analysis because well nobody nobody lives there no we don't even use it okay well you know then I encourage you to go forward with this maybe you can start using it and then you have it probably was appropriate that no one was using it why it it wasn't you didn't have the proper permits for it so um so basically clean out excuse me it's you guys will check this check it tell me what I need chain because I need what I would recommend is that you stop on your way out uh and talk to Anthony up front here in the building department and he would go over that with you and tell you what you need okay great so um but I am going to require that you come back on December 12th even if you are in compliance because we have a matter of some cost to deal with because the county has been working on this you know for a decent amount of time so um we will continue till December 11th thank you waiting now 2289 cesm Joseph Lynch and Katrina Allen afternoon can you raise your right hand please do you somly swear firm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes ma'am thank you good afternoon Jason simol County Inspector this is case number 2289 CSM located at 458 1 Street Geneva uh the violation uh charged is s county code chapter 40 appendex a 105.1 construction W the required permits this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on November 17 2022 and an order was issued given the respondents a compliance date of January 12th 2023 um an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on January 13 2023 an Affidavit of compliance was filed by the inspector after re inspection on October 4th 2024 the administrative costs for the clerk were $410 the administrative costs for the inspector were $795 $536 uh giving a total amount of 94946 uh recommend that special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of $1300 for 27 days of non-compliance from January 13 2023 through and including February 7th 2023 uh at $50 per day and a fine shall continue to acre at $50 a day for each day the violat it's in compliance yes okay so then that doesn't that doesn't go um but go back with me for a second because these dates aren't matching yeah the what happened here was there was um an issue with a prior inspector not doing the affidavit noncompliance so we had to go backwards to verify when it was actually in compliance and when I went out there for my inspection I found that it was in compliance so it took a bunch of days off and reduced the amount of the lean how did we find out that it was in compliance as of February 7th through computer records okay and um so talk to me a little bit about why once you were in compliance you didn't contact the County and let them know that you're in compliance that's part of the requirement on the order I did I asked oops hold on it was one of you one of the inspectors that retired or got fired he'd come in he said pull the wires and you'll be good to go well that's the one AC unit and he told me move it me in front of mine got tractor out and we just pulled it out the wires were disconnected the breakers were out and the thermostat was out that's what I was told to do originally okay I believe there was a misunderstanding and that he didn't follow up on whomever it was I don't know which inspector it was didn't follow up with it and um they were under the impression that they were in compliance because he told them that they were in compliance so that's why we reverted back when I got this piece of paper about this non-compliance thing I I mean I panicked and then I called and asked because they've been helping with pulling the permit so they said that we had to do some all this within 30 days we pulled all these permits and then the only other thing was this 1 AC unit on this 5,000 ft building on the parcel that when we purchase the house it's actually two purchases the house purchase which we did December 31st of 2020 and then the person we were purchasing the house from that on the land which had the 5,000 ft he had a 5,000 ft building on there that was not permitted and he had to permit that before we would close and so they were going through that permit process and that air conditioning was attached and that permit was closed during that and we didn't even own that property so when they came they didn't they I mean they didn't realize that we only owned this part and then they walked over here but so that's falling on us but I have notes on here that I called and this Kasich he came out if I had video cameras I could show you a tape he came out he looked at the AC unit cuz my husband was recovering from neurosurgery from um he's a disabled vet and um he said yep you're good and then I uh said are we in compliance and we had pulled all the permits he said yes and I even called the phone number and said do I need to show up at this apartment and uh person in the compliance Department said that no we had we're in full compliance we had p all the permits as we were supposed to and that you know that that AC unit was done and then all of a sudden two years later Here Comes this piece of paper that about this stuff and I and Jason's been incredible all the inspectors have been wonderful because you know we don't know how to do this and we've they've just T given me this is what you do I do it they come out they've been great talking they've been so extremely helpful but then out of the blue Here Comes this piece of paper Okay um Jason based on the testimony of the um the respondents and your testimony that um there was a prior inspector who told them that they were in compliance um and they were not I'm going to go ahead and find that the property is in compliance at this time um and was um that there was a misunderstanding and I'm not going to impose a um penalty and I'm not going to impose costs great thank you problem thank you ma'am so is that no cost you're good to go you're in compliance on we're okay yep oh thank you oh thank you so much 2315 CM Ronald Guzman and Sierra pster hi can you raise your right hand please do you Solly swear airm the testimony about you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes thank you good afternoon Jason Rucker simal County building department inspector this is case number 2315 CSM located at 3969 Centerville way in Sanford uh violation charge of simor county code Cod chapter 40 appendix a 105.1 um construction without the required permits uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on February 9th 2023 and an order was issued given the respondents at compliance state of April 14 2023 and Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on October 4th 2024 uh the administrative cost for the clerk in this case was was $173 198 the administrative costs uh to process this case for the inspector was $ 68824 um being a total of $862 122 special we recommend that the special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of$ 29,50 for 581 days of non-compliance from April 14th 2023 through and including November 14 2024 at $50 per day and a fine shall be continued to acre at $50 a day for each state of violation continues or is repeated after November 14 2024 um both the respondent and the contractor have reached out to me and they are trying to get the permit come completed so I think that the um there was just a couple comments that they had to correct but that submitted at this time okay um that completes my presentation okay um do you have can you give me some information on why it took so long in between April of 2023 and now for you all to do anything yeah so we had hired a company to come put the fence up and they told us initially that they took care of all the permitting and everything and we didn't have to worry about it we got our HOA permit and as far as we knew just first time a homeowner really didn't understand all the steps um they told us it was fine so then that was in 2021 so 2023 came we got the letter sent it to them said hey we don't we don't understand what's going on it's been almost two years no or a over a year no problem and you guys told us you to take care of it um so at that point they said okay no problem we're going to submit we're going to take care of it it's on our end okay then we never heard anything again until this year and so that's when um my husband started reaching out to him and saying there's something wrong whatever you're submitting is not going through um they resubmitted I think it was September or September 8th I believe when I call sometime in September they resubmitted um something and came back that something was wrong with the license for the company so he the person from the actual company had to call here and get that situated and I guess that's what was holding up on their end for so long um and I've been talking to Jason and Anthony and as of yesterday he said it was um they did get everything in that they needed they finally submitted all the stuff and it's um I guess I can review okay Jason can you tell me um was the um do we have evidence where permits were submitted along the way but they were rejected yeah it's it's all up here I don't see 2023 though okay there was a permit application that was in PC status but it was voided out and that was in February 6th of 2023 so they never they continued to not send an information that was needed on okay so and it looks like they reapplied and it looks like um all that they're lacking is um some requirements for zoning they just got it to review today yeah they just got it to review today which I just got and since it was sitting here I reviewed it and I've sent it off to traffic engineering so it'll take approximately 48 Hours um or so for them to go out into a site visit to ensure traffic visibility it's a corner lot okay um so they'll do their review I'll have it back the beginning of next week um more than likely approved it meets the from what I can tell I'm not a traffic engineer um but from what I can see on the site plan it does meet the the triangle um for site visibility so more than likely it'll be approved and when it gets back to me the well it go back to the contractor the contractor will have to resubmit the site plan and then I'll be able to approve it it seems like I'm the last hold out okay so so they're going to have to submit something again they'll just have to resubmit the task there won't be anything for them to resubmit other than the task and if I say if they let me know or if I know that they're it's coming back through or if you want to we're going to have to call them again or if you want to stay in contact with Jason or Ruth or Julie they will keep an eye on the permit and if it's sitting with the applicant I can go in and check and see if traffic engine or they can and see if traffic engineering is approved and we can have the review coordinator routed internally they don't even have to touch it okay they wouldn't have to submit anything else they do not we just need the task regenerated back to me for approval so they don't even have to technically touch they don't to do anything else for you they don't have to do anything we just need traffic engineering approval then we need to get it routed back to me for me to be able to finally approve the site plan understod okay okay so just stay in contact with these two lovely ladies and Ruth and Ruth and Julie and we'll we'll get you going and we'll get it through to approval thank you okay I'm going to um go ahead and continue your compliance St to um again just for the record because this one is being brought back after a year's time there's no there's not even an Affidavit of non-compliance that was close to the April 14th compliance date it it was um more than a year later that the Affidavit of non-compliance was actually filed so I'm going to um continue your compliance date now um to the 11th of December and um if you come into compliance by the 11th of December there will be a compliance heing on the 12th um but if you um have come into compliance then I don't see a reason for you to attend but you certainly may if you would like okay and as far as fees how well we would deal with that but I have some concerns with I it's very low amount of fees a very low amount of time was spent um and yes as a I understand as a first-time home buyer you might not have known some of these things but at the end of the day it's still your responsibility so um I would encourage you to um just anytime you get any kind of notice from any government that if you stop hearing you follow through yeah okay okay thank you thank you yeah thank you so much I take this okay 2368 cesm inovo properties I'll see Jason Shakra Shaka you raise your right hand do you solemly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes thank you good afternoon Jason Rucker simol County building department inspector this is case number 2368 cesm uh located at 1230 Wood mirr Drive in alont uh violation charg simal county code chapter 40 pendex a section 105.1 construction without the required permits uh this uh case was originally heard by special Magistrate on December 14th 2023 and an order was issued giving the resp respondence a compliance date of February 7th 2024 with a meeting scheduled for February uh 8th of 20124 on February 8th 2024 order was uh issued to extend the compliance date uh to April 10th on April 11th an order was given to extend to October the 9th 2024 uh code enforcement board was closed due to weather um in October so we uh moved the meeting to today the administrative cost to process this case for the clerk was $129. 36 the uh administrative cost for the inspector uh totals $892 17 totaling for both is $1,215 we recommend special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of 9,000 250 for 37 days of non-compliance from October 9th 2024 through and including November 14 2024 at $250 per day and the fine shall continue to acre at $250 per day for each day the violation continues or is repeated after November 14 2024 that concludes my presentation okay um so I I hired a GC she's supposed to be on this uh I know they applied for the permits uh but they've been kicked back uh there's been revisions done I think twice now they just received something this some revisions from the engineers that she's in contact with uh she we received that I think Monday or Tuesday um so she should have sent it in one of those days um we're just having issues with with getting those permits we're trying to be in compliance but it's just taken a little bit longer than I thought it would well taken a lot longer than I thought it would so the October 9th um date it looks like you did everything that you've done was after your compliance date so what happened between our April meeting where you were given until October so April May June July August September October six months is what you were given yeah so I hired a GC in um uh she referred uh engineer to get their plans uh so in the beginning obviously he went there made some plans took a bit um I know she submitted some paperwork I think sometime mid July uh they need a survey done so I got the survey done but that took took a few weeks um she should have she should have submitted something on in August I believe but um I came down to the county sometime like end of September I'm like hey like what's going on because like I felt like my GC wasn't doing the work that you know she was hard to do so I came down here asked about it then I told told her about it um and y'all said that y you guys are waiting on her to submit some something so I don't know she I I honestly don't know she told me that it it's just taken a long time with the uh with the engineer was there anything submitted prior to the the October 16th date up there July July is when it wased is when he originally when they originally submitted was July 17th the application yeah and this is the the third review Corrections so there could be more Corrections needed so since July through October they had gone back and forth several times MH yes so there there was never a time when they were just stagnant not doing not submitting no it looks to me like they have submitted and tried to do corrections uh there's still a plan review correction left I don't know what those are and like I said uh we just received something earlier uh this week so there should be another update soon so the there are three items up there that say Corrections required but they are also saying completed the the task was completed okay so the task was completed by whom by the county or by the applicant it depends on who's completing that particular task so for instance um like the one that I completed for zoning it says um zoning department review cycle 3 is completed there are Corrections required it shows the date the task came in the date the task was opened and then when it was completed so that's the order of those three dates and the time stamps so it's the date it was rout or the date and the time that it was routed the date that I opened it and the date that and date and time stamp that I completed it so then it's not going to show me what the two prior Cycles were and when they were well you can see above that the plan review Corrections completed you can see it was in October 16th for plan review Corrections when the applicant took it was the 16th so there was at least a twoe gap in between when he accepted it and when he re-uploaded it so I mean our they had to make the changes they they had to make the changes and typically our review cycle is is no more than 5 days I mean I'm required to have mine done within 24 to 48 hours is the typical turnover for a zoning review I don't think the plans examiners are that far off of it and I know drainage um is not far away from my review time periods either no but what you do time period wise is certainly different than what they do in the private sector no but what I'm saying so for the county there would be no more than a one to five day review turnover and then a two- week turnover if that's what you're expecting from them to get their comment and then to turn around plan review is what you saw this last review cycle yeah I wasn't questioning that what I what I was questioning is why why can I not see cuz it's a screenshot of there's more you couldn't put okay so if you maybe next time you showed the difference Pages if there's multiple okay um so are we close to having um a a building permit issued I would have to go and look at the comments and see what they are to to see yes no yeah and it depends on how long it takes the if there's engineering changes or anything like that depends on how long it would take the designer of record to you so when we were here in April and it it took you roughly two and a half months to get everything submitted had you had any plans whatsoever or did you hire yeah in in April before that hearing um I already had the engineer like scheduled to come and everything uh he was kind of bugged I think I had to wait like a month for him to actually come up but your work was already completed so so at that time yes at that yeah the well I mean most the most the violations were from like previous stuff that happened like they lift holes in the exterior wall so I you know I closed them up I wasn't going to let you know stuff come in you know just waiting for a permit to close it up like I had to close it up so anyways um in April before that hearing uh the engineer had typed up a letter saying that you know we're going to get to get to this uh pretty soon um and you guys extended me until October uh since then I've been working with that engineer in the GC and I wish you know I like kicked her tail a little bit to like hurry up um cuz yeah that was in April like they didn't submit stuff till July like to me I don't really know how that process works but they told me like this is how like that's fastest that that's the fastest they could work so I did you tell him that you had a compliance date here uh we extended the compliance dat in October because of the letter that he wrote the engineer wrote no no it wasn't extended in October you were given until October yeah I was given until October okay um because of the the note he that he had wrote so he has to understand though that you are under compliance deadlines so he can't for him to say to you I can't work any faster he certainly can because there are compliance deadlines he just needs to that's why I wish exactly I I wish I wish in that time I had like pushed them to to hurry on but like I don't know how long that process takes and I thought the GC had already submitted plans prior to July uh but apparently she didn't and then like right now I um weekly I'm telling the GC like any updates any updates any updates and sometimes she'll kind of ignore me um for like 3 weeks four weeks at a time and then she'll be like oh I have an update finally I'm like well what happened you know 3 weeks ago four weeks ago so it's been difficult on my like for me like I'm I'm trying to be in compliance uh your honor so it looks like um his his contractor is starting to upload some plans um my biggest um issue was there was not a complete site plan including setback Dimensions um included for my review um that's been my my comment since it was originally submitted back in July with a repeat comment on October 16th and October 30th um including a a separate comment for them to include all setbacks um the proposed structure and um then giving them the setback requirements um and all three times that was not responded to it does appear the site plan is providing me that information so I'll have to review it in its entirety with the whatever other plan sheetss they provide for review um however there are over a dozen structural comments that they have from the plans examiner um for components and cladding um the garage not being shown on the floor plan um whether or not the garage floor surfac is being leveled um the lumbar grade in species with the rafter span I mean I could go on and on and on about things that need to be address that have not been addressed were repeat comments so hopefully they address those in this next review cycle excuse me um so like like I said um I did receive something from the engineers and I did see those questions that she just asked um like some of them I remembered um and they were um like that was emailed like the responses were emailed so the GC should have emailed that to you sometime this week I know Monday everyone everyone was off so either she delivered them Tuesday or yesterday well that's what I'm saying I'm I saw the site plan has been uploaded um and now they're starting to upload more like as I'm refreshing the screen I can see more plan sheets being uploaded so they are responding whether or not they'll meet comments I don't know it looks like it's going to fulfill zoning whether or not it fulfills plans examiner comments I don't know okay so I I am going to find that you've been attempting to um follow through with your contractors and and they there have now been um things uploaded I do have a little bit of a concern that we're on iteration number three um that's when it's starting to especially when comments have been ignored um but I don't I don't want to be back here again giving another continuance so what I'm going to do is I'm going to continue until January 8th which is the day before our January meeting I will not continue again so you need to indicate to your GC that you can't get another continuance so if this is as fast as they can work they need to work a little faster um because if you do not get a a compliance on the 8th you'll have a fine that that starts to run on the eth plus we'll deal with penalties uh or fees and costs of the County as well um so you'll have a continuance till the 8th and you'll need to be back here on the 9th for the compliance hearing understood okay all right all right thank you thank you 247 CM Amanda and a Christopher joerger thank you raise your right hand please do Solly for firm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do thank you Jason Rucker simol County building department inspector this is case number 247 cesm located at 1480 merkwood code in Ido violation charge simal county code chapter 40 pinex a section 105.1 construction without the required permit uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on March 14th 2024 and an order was issued given the respondents of compliance date of August 7th 20124 with a a meeting scheduled on August 8 2024 Affidavit of noncompliance was file by the inspector after reinspection on August 6th 2024 um and on August 8th 2024 an order was issued given the response compliance date of November 14th sorry November 13th 2024 uh with a meeting date scheduled for November 14 2024 the administrative cost for the clerk is $164 123 the administrative cost for um the inspector was $600 $661 46 um totaling $825 69 cents for both uh we recommend the special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of $50 for one day of non-compliance and compliance from November 13 2024 through and including November 14th 2024 at $50 per day and a fine shall continue to acre at $50 per day for each day the violation continues or is rep repeated after November 14th 2024 that concludes my presentation okay hi I'm am Andy Jagger my husband's out of town for business today so I'm the one here doing it um he's been the one handling all of this so I kind of have notes from what has been going on since the last time he was here um we I know before the August date we finally got the Wetland survey done which took a very long time to get with Dr storm and also with the other survey person to get it all figured out um which we did get done and submitted and I think he sent it also to you guys in the meantime since August what we've been trying to figure out is a contractor to take our thing because we don't know how to do the permits oursel we don't know how to do the engineering plans any of that stuff um and finding a contractor to take our case has been very difficult because they don't want to deal with the wetlands um so we as of last week my husband got somebody finally um called wood quality LLC and they have an engineer on site or like on their in the keep in site who is going to work on the plans for us um but I don't have a date on that yet cuz he's still waiting to hear from them when they can come out and actually inspect everything and then start working on all of that okay and what was secured first a we had to do a wetland survey because of how our where our structure is and our house is in technically in wetlands and that's been provided to the county you all have evidence of that I don't I don't have it I was like my husband sent an email to Julie I believe it was back so typically we wouldn't take an impartial application or an incomplete application so if they don't have all of their plan sheets their site plan and their their engineering drawings um typically at the counter they won't take all of that in so if their Wetland delineation and and all of that took an excessive period of time which they do um and now getting their engineer drawings I mean it makes sense that it would have taken them this long to get that far okay so do we think they could possibly 90 days be able to engineered drawings and submitted I think that 90 days probably um well you who all needs to review well it would be a full so it would be our natural resource officers flood plane drainage but that doesn't prohibit them from submitting so even if they don't have everything that we need they could submit and you all will tell them and we will tell them what is missing so I don't I wasn't sure how that process worked I didn't know if we had to ever everything ready for you when we did the application or not well you're going to need your plans for your structure you're going to need your site plan other than that if there is information lacking on those plan sheets or on your your site plan survey staff will help you and guide you and if we need to have a meeting we're always here to help you guide you through that process um and I know that we also have to get in touch with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection to see if they'll give us a letter for um that shows that our impact is not much is not anything on the wetlands or if we have to pay a mitigation and that's something else we have to do too that we've been working with Dr storm about so that so that will be a comment that our natural resource officer will make so they can still submit for their permit application that will just be something that she will make and probably our drainage people will make as well as far as impact or mitigation Bank mitigation Pond if it's a available to them on their property so this could be an ongoing process it's at your pleasure on how you want to facilitate monitoring the case it could take you six months to get easy to get um something from the state but that doesn't prohibit them from starting their application process with us right but they wouldn't get the permit though they wouldn't be in compliance right they wouldn't get unless they have to pay mitigation Bank fees and then that would because they may not have any other option so it may be faster than other options so it it depends on which Avenue they they take I was like from what I understand from talking to the um the I can't remember who it was who talked to us the first time we came that regardless if we keep the structure or take the structure down we still have to pay some sort of fee for the wetlands itself so now like we're still trying to figure out how much any of that's going to be to try to figure out like our plan is to keep structure if if it's if we can we'd like to use it as storage but yeah okay I wish it went faster it's been stressing me out okay I am going to find that you have been um you're saying all the right things which is giving staff the indication that you have gone through part of the process that you need to um go through I'm going to um continue your compliance date to May 7th thank you um and then we'll have a um compliance hearing again on the 8th okay thank you thank you thank you very much everybody but I cannot stress enough please stay in contact with the county I've been every because if I can see that you all they have notes that you all have remained in contact that that definitely helps contct absolutely great thank you 2447 CM Armando cero thank you okay can I swear you in do you solemly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing about the truth I do thank you okay Jason Rucker simal County building department inspector this is case number 2447 cesm located at 170 East Third Court julota violation charges simal county code chapter 40 appendix a section 105.1 construction without the required permits uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on September 12th 2024 in order was issued giving the respondant a compliance date of November 13 2024 with a meeting schedule for November 14th 2024 administrative cost for the clerk is $151 192 the administrative cost process for the inspector was $577 121 uh totaling a cost of $729 recommend that special magistrate issue an order con constituting a lean in the amount of $250 for one day of non-compliance from November 13 2024 through and including November 14th 2024 at $250 per day and the fine shall continue to acre at $250 per day for each day the violation continues or is repeated after November 14 2024 that concludes my presentation yes so um so I wanted to do an update on what has we what we have done so far uh so the the shed has been already demolished um and the pool was supposed to be also done by be by the day of this hearing but unfortunately um you know I've been trying to push everybody and they didn't didn't make it um by today um so I know it's um they were supposed to to be done but by by today but um they should be done probably with the next week filling the pool um and then that's okay and all the are you aware of the demolition was there a permit issued for that there was a permit issued for the pool demolition yes pool demolition yeah and and then what about the for the what for the shed the shed for the shed okay and then what's being done with the pool is being filled in it's been filled in so so we already demolished the um the the shed uh but they were supposed to be done with the pool by today but there was a delay okay has he remained in contact with you all no I I haven't been in contact with him no but the the demolition there is a demolition that's required for the screen enclosure is that correct Ruth no the violation is for the pool enclosure pool enclosure the violation is for that so not for the pool itself the pool had a permit no it's for the pool oh it's for the pool yeah and then I also have interior and exterior construction and then multiple structures without permits so where are we with do we have permits on the interior and exterior they so my knowledge they applied for one but they do not have it issue and do have there been comments back and forth have Megan zorski project coordinator for development services um I actually had a meeting with um this gentleman and the property owner um with one of our other staff members um as translator um on November 7th um with several clarifying emails thereafter um so there was some confusion about how to this rolls into the next case as well so I'll just um kind of give all the information now on how to convert the structure back to one single family residence instead of basically a two-story duplex um so the the stairwell did not connect or does not currently connect the upstairs living space to the downstairs living space um and my understanding is that the upstairs living space was recently the addition portion of the structure um as well as the stairwell so when I met with them um via teams meeting I explained to them that the stairwell needed to be enclosed living space doesn't have to be air conditioned but it has to be have walls it has but it also has to connect interior to the interior living space of the downstairs to the interior living space of the upstairs so we went through some options of where that could potentially be located in order to connect the two living spaces um of course subject to their design professional and design loads and all of the things that the design professional is um akin to not someone who's doing zoning review but where it could potentially be located since the screen enclosure is subject to um code enforcement anyway um that's one of the potential locations for the the stairwell to be moved to um I also provided them with the comments from the plans examiners again so that they were aware of what else needed to be um handled for that review um I am not aware of any other permit that has been applied for other than the alteration to the single family residence other than the demolition permit so the other structures I have not had a permit to review yet okay so there there other Renovations that are requiring permits that you haven't applied for um and so I understand that you tried to demo one of the structures but there are multiple structures and one of them you're trying to work on and make it a single family and not a multif family yeah um and the pool enclosure is part of this there's no demolition of the pool enclosure so to my understanding there were two different um cases or permits that we need to they are and and that the second case that we will hear the second case is with respect to the fact that the the dwelling that you have because you have put the stairs in you've made it a multifam dwelling so that's a zoning violation separate and apart from the permits and you haven't received permits for the interior and exterior construction um of the pool enclosure multiple structures on the property so that has to occur as well so to my understanding the the first permit that we uh received was to to demo the shed which was has been done already and to fill in the to fill the pool that's uh that was the the permit that we received and those those are um the the two tasks that we were trying to accomplish by by today we just but the filling of the pool you weren't even ordered to do that yeah it's uh it's going to be done uh probably in the next no it's not it's not in my order now if that's a choice if you chose to fill in the pool no but that's what they said what we're supposed to he does need to fill in the pool so it's not the screen enclosure but okay I apologize okay it it is not in my order though um that there was a pool that needed to be filled in there was just exterior construction including a pool enclosure multiple structures without permits but it wasn't part of the violation it wasn't part of the violation it's in the pool permit or in the demo permit it says issu for shed pool you chose to fill in the pool but that wasn't part of the order so the problem is you you complied with some things that you wanted to to get accomplished on the property but you didn't comply with the parts of my order that you needed to comply with because there are other structures on the property that do not have permits and there are there were interior um inter there was interior construction that was done also without a permit correct that's the uh the the there was a second uh story that was uh that came with the property like that so uh that was stairwell exactly but you did interior so so that's the permit that we are applying for uh for the second okay so you he can't get that permit until he gets the zoning problems solved fixed okay well I mean the permit that he applied for was actually demo to demo an alteration permit that's what that's for right it says demo and alteration interior structure matters are they they're Al together the alteration permit is Al together for the interior alterations and the stairwell so it's an alteration to the existing single family residents but he can't get it until he has the zoning issue fixed correct no it's all it's all tied to one so once the plans meet where they tie the interior together that permit will get issued and it'll resolve the zoning issue so once that permit is issued it'll also solve part of Cara's case as well okay but he can't he hasn't been able to apply for that yet because you all just had your meeting no he applied for that he's applied for the permit the the the meeting was to help facilitate because he's keeps responding to comments and not really responding to comments okay and I wasn't sure if it was a language barrier or if he just wasn't understanding the comments so they asked for a meeting we had a teams meeting and I also had not staff member an interpreter so that way we could facilitate a clear understanding of what was expected and what was needed in order for this permit to get through Zoning for review and then I also gave them Howards the plans examiner comments as well and explained to them that they still had building plans examiner comments that needed to be addressed as well because it's not just my comments there are other outstanding comments that need to be addressed so do you all feel like he's been communicating with you all like you've asked or well I asked during that meeting if he had been in contact with code enforcement up to this point and they had said no and I reiterated to them how important and crucial it was for them to be in communication with Jason with jul with Julie and Ruth and then to stay in constant com contact from now on because just because you're submitting a building permit does not mean that they're aware that you're working through that and there are other issues and I also copied Cara offerer Hill on um the email communication as well so everybody was kind of in the loop on where we were after that meeting so that they knew we had had the meeting that he had been in communication with staff because I didn't want it to go unnoticed that he was at least reaching out to try to get this resolved but it took three I think three review Cycles to get us to that meeting so I think now I think now they have a better understanding for the the house portion what they need to do but they still have other issues that they need to deal with okay and he wasn't supposed to be into compliance until yesterday anyway and he has um done so are we thinking that after the meeting that you were able to have that um everything can be finalized as far as him getting the permits dealing with the zoning issue um within the next 60 days I'm hopeful that I'll get a plan set that may meet some of the comments I don't know that it's going to meet all of all of the review comments I think hopefully we'll get placement we may get some connection whether or not it's going to resolve all of the zoning issues and all of the building issues is there a a was there a language barrier with the engineer as well it was not the engineer it was this gentleman and the property owner okay but oh so you but you do have an engineer now yeah no that was the architect it was the arit okay so hopefully there was clear communication because we had The Interpreter so hopefully that is resolved and now they completely understand what needs to be accomplished is 60 days sufficient time for them to accomplish what is in front of them we should get a plan set in in another review cycle at least well I'm looking for for compliance I I don't know that it's going to be in compliance within 60 days okay because one of the things I'm trying to avoid is us having being on our you know fourth amended complaint fourth amended order because I don't um give sufficient time um because that's extra work for you all as well I also don't know what the other structures are I mean I know it says other structures I don't know what the other structures are in the code violation the Gazebo there probably demolished that one's gone demolished so did the de the demolition permit cover more than one one structure the shed and the pool is all the demo permit but then the Gazebo allow did it have to have a demo permit uh no not not if there was no electric or Plumbing out there okay but you need to contact me when that happen so I know so that when we come to this we can say yes he removed that yeah I thought uh officer heel was doing the inspection so was a misunderstanding okay no problem we'll give you my car so you'll have it okay no problem okay um I'm going to continue until your compliance date until March 12th um but I really cannot stress enough the importance of you working with the county that's going to give you sufficient time um to do everything that you need to do um I would hope that you would be able to do everything you need to do even to the structure um by that point but um let's um I'll continue till March 12th and there will be a compliance hearing on March 13th that you will need to come to okay okay thank you all right thank you and just stick around because we'll do your next case as well 2449 cesm Carol were you sworn in when we swore everyone else in okay for the record we'll note that officer Hill is sworn um and I'll remind you that you're under oath sir okay thank you officer Hill sok County Sheriff's Office enforcement east region this is case number 2449 cesm Armando P cero located at 170 East Third Court in julota violation charge with s County Land Development code Chapter 30 part 11 section 30182 use is permitted a multif family dwelling is not a permitted use in an R1 zoning District the case was originally heard by the special Magistrate on September 12th 2024 and an order was issued giving the respondent a liance date of November 13th 2024 with a meeting scheduled for today an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by myself on November 13 2024 the administrative cost to process this case for the clerk totals $28.30 the administrative cost for the Sheriff's Office total is $254 43 the administrative cost to process this case for both the clerk and code enforcement total is $462 181 the spe the recommendation is special magistrate order and issue constituting lean amount of $250 for one day of non-compliance from November 13th 2024 through and including November 14th 2024 at $250 per day and the fine shall continue to ACC crew at $250 per day each day the violation continues or is repeated these photos were taken from my inspection yesterday so there's no um connection from the upstairs unit to the um the single family dwelling below it I was out there for the inspection um like um Mr phino said um I was out there I did see that the shed was taken down but I was not inspecting for other um structures to be taken down so I did not observe or walk to see if the Gazebo is taken down because obviously that's not my case that falls underneath the building department so I was not looking for those this concludes my presentation okay I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to recognize the testimony given in the prior case of Megan zorski um related to the process that is being taken and how um these issues will um resolve themselves with the permitting process the if the fixes are made um that they have spoken to you about that that will um fix the zoning issue because it will no longer be a multi considered a multif family dwelling based on um the the stairs and the accessibility um so I'm going to go ahead and continue this case until March 12th 2025 as well so that these can run concurrently with one another because I believe that they're definitely um tied together thank you okay thank you next case 2453 CM BF assets 3 LLC the printice call oh hi sir you raise your right hand please do you solemnly swear firm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes and your name please Joshua suda okay good afternoon Jason Rucker semal County building department inspector this is case number 2453 CSM uh located at 3314 Curtis drive and a poka uh violation charge semal county code chapter 40 pendex a 105.1 construction without the required permit this case was originally heard by the special Magistrate on September 12th 2024 an order was issued giving the respondents a compliance date of November 13 2024 um with the meeting date of no November 14th 2024 administrative costs for the clerk work was $171 42 the administrative cost for the inspector was $566 66 uh with a total for both being $738 eight a recommendation is special magistrate order uh uh issue in order constituting a lean in the amount of $250 for one day of non-compliance from November 13 2024 through and including November 14th 2024 at $250 per day and a fine shall continue to acrw at $250 uh per day uh each day the violation continues or is repeated after November 14 2024 that concludes my presentation okay yes ma'am um I think uh between my vendor and uh myself my assistant manager I think within the last 60 days we've about worn out the uh Team of Miss Julie Jason Ruth um trying to get these permits put in at one point working on the permit process we were told we needed a demo permit that was then told we did not need one um my vendor this morning re submitted paperwork today for the third time where he was told he needed a different form and so as we go back and forth on this we want to be in compliance we want to get this done but for whatever reason we keep seeming to get conflicting information as to what permit application that needs to be done a form version from 828 versus 816 um being told that the permits or the authorization forms were not legible once they were then submitted oh now we need a different forms so we do want to be in compliance um would like some solid Clarity on what does need to be done for offense and just ask for some assistance on that sounds like they're getting the wrong form somehow um they're all on our website but if you want to stop before you leave over here they'll get you to make sure it's the right form yeah we since you're down here already yeah my assistant manager spent about an hour and a half on the phone going through what permit was needed that wound up being the incorrect form and uh my vendor says he's been here a couple times so like I said I just I want to get it done I vendor wants to get this done so it was resubmitted again this morning as he's been going back and forth trying to communicate with the team um Miss Ruth's uh email was even blocked from him being able to get an email to her for clarification well the error he got just said you've been you cannot get this email through I can share the screenshot toach something too much I could have been um I this permit hasn't even been routed to me because he's stopped at submissions so without this authorization form that is incorrect for whatever reason it's not even being routed to me but cursory review it's a 6 foot tall residential fence it's an interior lot as soon as it's routed I should be able to issue it so it's not going to need a a variance it's not going to need okay 6ot tall it's interior lot lines it appears to meet the the um front yard set back so it should be um approved as soon as it's routed does he have the correct form now submitted that's something that he'll have to deal with submissions intake so I highly suggest he goes to the permit counter well it sounds like he has between me and my vendor like I said and my assistant manager spent hours on the phone trying to make sure we get the right things and continuously told they're wrong so yeah what do you need Julie 24 14623 yep a minute which is confused on the fence not having a permit for a pool that's been there for 20 years and you don't put up a pool without a fence so oh take a look administrative documents and if they're not going to the website to get the form it's likely they're using outdated forms okay so but their insurance is out of date and their license it's your workers compensation and your insurance not his his contractors his contractors so they need to so you need his updated forms on that because I do know he is up to date or otherwise I wouldn't be able to assign them work so it needs to have seminal County listed as the certificate holder so probably what they're submitting does not have the proper information on it so if they're submitting one say that says you know Valia County on it and that's what they're submitting to seminal County seminal county is not going to accept it okay so it has to say seminal County as the certificate holder I'll make that happen Okay so it appears that that's what is currently lacking and as soon as it's routed to me I should be able to approve it so that tells me that we definitely can get this one done in December yes ma'am we've got 40 plus emails in the last couple weeks so trust me we want to get this done okay then I'm going to continue your compliance date to December 11th and um there will be a compliance hearing on December 12th and just for clarification that is the only thing now required is the correct Certificate of Insurance for the county to be listed that's what she's seeing but I would stop before you leave right here okay and talk to Anthony before you leave just to make sure okay okay great thank you thank you next case 2455 cesm marabel and Elsa Marcado Musa afternoon your honor good afternoon you raise your right hand please oh sorry you somly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth truth and nothing but the truth yes ma'am okay Jason Rucker s County Inspector this is case number 2455 CSM located at 1667 Kingston Road violation charge semal county code chapter 40 penx a section 105.1 construction without the required permits uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on September 12th 2024 and an order was issued giving the respondents a compliance date of November 13th 2024 with a meeting date scheduled for today November 14 2024 uh administrative costs for the clerk um total $14.19 administrative cost for the inspector total $ 45067 that giv a total for both of $554 86 uh we recommend special magistrate issu an order con stituting a lean in the amount of $100 for one day of non-compliance from November 13 2024 through and including November 14 2024 and at $100 per day and a fine shall continue to a crew at $100 per day for each day the violation continues or is repeated after November 14th 2024 that concludes my presentation okay good afternoon good afternoon um I'm going to give you a little rundown I I spoke to Mr rocker earlier uh today um so bring you back from where we were and where we are right now uh we um actually appli for a variance um the variance was denied at that moment uh we reapplied for another variance because we are going to be moving the actual structure um so if I don't know if you guys can put the picture so the um your honor can visualize where it is thank you that's perfect so the the structure is going to be moved to compliance the only thing is that the code was actually uh revised in June so the back from The Back Fence right now is required 35 ft so my new variance is actually asking the county to see if I can put it at 20 20 ft from The Back Fence and of course 20 ft from the side fence which it will be already in compliance uh because in that side I have two septic tanks in my in my um um property so that side it would leave very small if I put it at 35 would be the the original what the the county wants now um it would put me very close if they have to service if they have to do anything to that um septic tank so I'm applying for this variant which I believe is going to be seen um January 27th I think that's the the date um 2025 um I don't know if they notified this to your honor um but uh but the uh application was done already um let me see I've been in contact with Miss Hillary in the variance department and uh let me bring the paperwork your honor uh this was the old one but it was down sometime in October I think the last week of October I believe it was done your honor and so so what I'm if if I may interrupt your honor no sure um so what I'm asking please if I can um get more time after this hearing is done so we can basically um get everything you know all the ducks on the road and then basically I just move that structure talk to Mr rocker we'll we'll do the building pyramid we'll get everything set up and and and just move forward your honor okay and Megan how long um from a variant standpoint are we so it's 15 days if there's no appeals after the day of the hearing that I would be the earliest that I could issue the permit and the hearing is January 27th I believe okay and that's if that that hearing schedule is accepted by the board of adjustments so that's a tentative hearing date it'll be set the end of December at our last hearing okay but typically they're heard on the last Monday of the month correct okay so but he would still need to get the permit after that and uh there's several things you'll have to do we'll have to go to the health department they'll have to come out and spec for the location of those septics okay I mean so I mean there there's other things that'll have to be done I mean he could start his his plan his plan review now like submit a site plan like get the ball rolling as far as where you're going to place it even though the variance isn't approved you can submit where you're proposing to to place it and I'll make the comment that you need the variance and da D like all of the things pending the variance approval so at least at least you'll get through to where it needs to be on there and at least there'll be some movement in the permit that way um but ultimately we would be pending the variance approval um can I say something please um the the so this is a question just to get it right in my head the the metal shed permit that one that we originally filed is that still open mhm okay because it when I submitted that I submitted um the actual plans for the the company that install the the structure I submitted all the plans to that we wouldn't need any new um plans as far as I know I'm not going to speak for the building division but no if you're not changing anything with this structure we would not need any structural drawings other than if you're placing it on a new footer you would need a footer drawing or specifications for your footer for the for the plan's examiner but the site plan would be what I would need to show the new proposed location so you will me this type of what you provided with your variance is what you would provide me into the building permit okay no problem all right so so would I have to add to that permit or should I just reissue a new permit or no you just want to revive you want to upload to that same permit you just want to keep that one going and respond to comments okay and then when your if your variance is approved you'll get an approval letter with an attached site plan it's a two-page document you'll upload that approval letter into your building permit and that'll be the caveat that takes you over and you'll be able to get zoning approval so if everybody else is is approved and I'm your last little hold out that that's the reason you're not getting your building permit issued okay you'll upload that letter and then that will allow me then to put the stamp on your site plan so thank you very much you're welcome okay I am going to in the interest because while Megan could issue probably um by the second week of February potentially it's very possible it could take you 30 days to get a um this the state to come out and do everything else yeah we're yeah and if that's the case will the state come out PRI prior to a permit being issued by Megan I don't think the health department cares whether or not they have an issued permit from us to be perfectly honest with you they do it all the time with the single family residence for um for septic tanks um the other thing that I'm um a little hesitant about is the moving of the building I don't how much he's going to want to invest in plans or reviewing or resubmitting the the the building permit until the variance is approved right right okay so just thought process on that side that once the variance is approved he's got the 15-day approval period or appeal period and then he's got to coordinate the moving company potentially but get the permit prior to moving it no he can't get the permit until the variance is approved and then he would have to coordinate the moving to move the structure itself to coordinate the moving of the structure has to move the structure prior to having a permit for the structure no he has to move it after but to coordinate the plans I'm just I'm trying to think it through with you is if he's not I don't know how much he's going to want to invest into new plans if he doesn't have approved variants no I I get that but as far as you issuing a permit he doesn't have to move it until after you issue right right but the structural um moving a structure the coordinating it's got to match the it has to match and I don't know what other divisions would be involved with moving a structure okay because if if I'm not mistaken taken and this is my my trend of thought of this you you you guys have to go out and inspect the the footing because it's going to be a new footing and a new structure and then let me know if I can pour concrete and then but that only happens if there's a permit issued right okay okay so I'm going to continue until April 9th 2025 um and then there will be a compliance hearing on April 10 okay Lord willing will be done ma'am good deal thank you thank you you have a blessed day and Merry Christmas Merry Christmas yeah exactly okay next hearing 2462 cesm Mount Zion Baptist Church of Midway do you Solly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing about the truth yes ma'am thank you can you state your name please for the record Pastor Jan Henry okay good afternoon Jason Rucker semal County building department inspector this is case number 24 62 CM um located at 20001 cypes Avenue uh violation charged to simal county code chapter 40 appendix a section 105.1 construction without the required permits this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on September 12 2024 an order was issued giving the respondant a compliance date of November 13 2024 with a meeting date scheduled for today November 14 2024 administrative cost to process this case for the clerk was $14.19 the administrative cost to process this case for the inspector total is $471 76 um that giving a total for both uh uh $575 N5 recommendation special magistrate recommend the special magistrate order the uh order constituting a lean in the amount of $50 for one day of non-compliance uh from November 13 2024 through and including November 14 2024 at $50 per day and a fine shall continue to AC crew at $50 per day for each day the violation continues or is repeated after November 14th 20124 that concludes my presentation okay just bear with me one second okay yes sir what can you tell me right now uh the contractor just sent me a um a paper to say that we probably need more time uh um he just let us know 5 days ago we needed a uh a boundary a boundary survey I guess a new one because what we did the property next to us that we purchased we had to make it one in order to be able to have a a survey done right so we had we went and had that done so the became one Consolidated piece now I guess you have to revise the survey that we off he had prior to that I guess in February I'm I'm I'm assuming showing the single lot itself yeah was single it was showing that that was a lot and then the church lot so we had to make it one in order to be able to get it permitted that what we found out and then I talked with the uh contractor wasn't 10 days I said we hadn't met here and he said I'm going to take care of everything we didn't I didn't hear back from him until 5 days ago that we needed a permit I said man you wa this late it tell us that we could have had this done and so I've been in the process of calling the uh surveyors to get them and now surveyors that I call they say they so busy it won't be too December 17th maybe they could get there and Survey the property because it's like by it being a church is commercial so they so busy they say it'll take them at least December the 17th or after in order to get the survey so we ready for whatever we got to do to get it done I mean we've been working trying to get this done because we want to go ahead and finish it so we can keep going and what so in this particular matter all he's going to need is the permit but he needs the survey to show where the the structure is located I'm assuming well he's going to have to have a set of plans and everything for it as well okay and yeah because it's a it's a large structure yeah we had to we had somebody to draw up that's why this contractor has it they redrew it they drew it up and got everything in line I think he put in for per MIT before but uh he had he didn't come back are you having any notes that say that it was submitted it was resubmitted on the 8th of this month okay they resed submitted it originally they did and it got voided out I think because uh like yeah they didn't upload anything within the seven days required okay as far as their documents go so I have been in contact with the pastor and he did say you that was the first contractor you had to just kind of dropped the ball correct yes and um so I mean I have no control over that and really he doesn't either but yeah they have worked with you okay um and so you have the plans already drawn you're just waiting on the survey yes that is needed um so if they could get it done mid December do you see any reason why they couldn't get their permit issued in January by the meeting in January the January 8th meeting or January 9th meeting so compliance by the January 8th still a prescreen I'm going to highly suggest that whatever site plan they currently have or survey they currently have even though you're getting one redone um since you if you have plans already done for the structure that you submit what you have and let zoning take a look at the structure and even though we're probably going to make comments about your site plan or your survey because it's not current because you've done a lot combination let staff get take a look so that we can get you comments while you're waiting for that survey to take place so that if something needs to be added onto the survey or we need additional information you have time to get that added in while the survey is being done instead of it being completed and it needs to be revised okay I mean we want to do that's what we want to do whatever we got to do I'm willing to do yeah if you already have the building plans I think that's probably a good place for us to start that way the plans examiners can get their reviews going and at least um the zoning staff whether it's a planner or if it's me that it gets routed to um we can at least get you going in the right direction and get you some comments and some feedback back to get you started on what may or may not need to happen Okay okay that's fine okay getting getting back to your question I would say that actually February would probably be better instead of having to come back and then them ask for another extension just in case they weren't well with Megan's testimony I was pretty much there also so I'm going to go ahead and continue your compliance date to February 12th okay 2025 and there will be a compliance hearing on February 13 2025 all right ma'am thank you thank you 2314 CM Justin Marlette yeah I'm G do it last is he here you ready Jason Rucker simal County building department inspector this is case number 2314 CSM uh located at 1120 B Lane in Geneva violation charge simol county code chapter 40 appendix a section 105.1 construction without the required permits this case was originally heard by the special Magistrate on February 9th 2023 an order was issued giving the respondant a compliance date of April 14th 2023 an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector from reinspection on April 19th 2023 an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on October 4th 2024 administrative cost for the clerk totals $183.7 the administrative cost for the inspector total of $ 63468 given a total for both of $818 41 recommendation that the special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of $229,500 per day and a fine shall continue to acre at $50 per day for each day the violation continues or is repeated after no November 14th 2024 that concludes my presentation can you uh give me some information on how the um notice for the hearing was provided today um to the respondent I went out and posted it on their door okay and did we did we do any mailings either do have mailings we just posted it as far as I know let me look here did we send regular mail too though and regular mail was returned also okay so I have uh testimony oh you have it okay yeah they were returned nobody signed for them but the the certified mail but regular mail was not returned back so the regular mail was received um the letter that was sent on November 14th October 14th I'm sorry um and then after the uh certified mail was returned is when you posted the property yes ma'am it's right there on the door okay I'm going to accept the electronic case File F into the record showing the posting of the property um and uh along with the testimony of the uh officer um I'm going to uh find that the property remains in violation of the magistrate order um originally issued um on February 9th 2023 um and I'm going to find that the property um was still in violation as of April 14th 2023 and is in violation today I'm going to impose the um fine of $50 a day retroactively back to the compliance date of April 14th 2023 and the $50 a day will continue for each and every day um thereafter that the violation remains um including today and Beyond I'm going to impose costs in the amount of $884 and that is comprised of administrative costs in the amount of 18373 and for the clerk and administrative cost for the inspector totaling $634 68 the $884 1 cents needs to be paid within 30 days or it will be recorded as a lean against the property along with a penalty of $50 a day that is acing retroactive retroactively back to April 14th 2023 thank you okay the next case is 2320 2332 cesm Melissa and Michael Mitchell Jason Rucker SEL County building department inspector this is case number 2332 cesm located at 2916 Quincy Court in Apopka a violation charge simal county code chapter 40 openda section 105.1 construction without the required permits this case was was originally heard by special Magistrate on March 9th 2023 an order was uh issued given the response of comping date of April 14 2023 um there have been several uh extensions um an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector uh reinspection on July 20th 2023 um a second was issued on August 6th for non-compliance 2024 um on August 8 2024 an order was issue given the response of compliance date of October 9th 2024 with a stipulation including providing the building official access to verify renovation um not constitute the health and safety and Welfare concerns um a meeting scheduled for October Fe 10th 2024 um code enforcement board uh was closed due to weather on November 14 2024 so it was continued to November 14 2024 the administrative cost to process this case to to date for the clerk was $260 59 the administrative cost to process the case to date for the inspector was $594 51 um totaling uh the amount of $855 for both uh recommend special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean in the amount of $ 24,55054 days of non-compliance from July 13th 2023 through and including November 14th 2024 at $50 per day and a fine shall continue to acre at $50 per day for each day the violation continues or is repeated after November 14 2024 that concludes my presentation okay can you give me some information on um the how the hearing was notice was provided for today we they received it October 21st green card came back certified okay perfect and it was a notice of hearing for today's hearing okay correct all right I'm going to go ahead and find that the respondent was properly noticed to be here today and to find that their property is still out of compliance and I'm going to ratify the prior order um imposing the fine of $50 a day retroactively back to July 13 2023 and continuing each and every day thereafter that including today that the violation remains I'm going to impose costs in the amount of $855 which includes administrative cost for the clerk of 26059 and administrative cost of the inspector of 59 451 and those costs are to be paid within 30 days and last but not least let's do to 2213 CM you'll go ahead and raise your right hand please do solemnly swear air the testimony are about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes I do thank you good afternoon Jason Rucker semal County building department inspector this is case number 2213 cesm located at 499 Rocky Brook Court and Castleberry uh violation charge simol county code chapter 40 appendix a 105.1 um construction at the required permits this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on February 10th 2022 and an order was issued giving the respondents a compliance date of June 10th 2022 um an extension was given on August 11th uh on June 9th was given an extension to August 11th 20122 an Affidavit of non-compliance was um filed after reinspection on August 12th 2022 on March 9th 2023 an order was issued extending again till April 8th um an Affidavit of compliance was filed on March 23rd 2023 after the permit was obtained uh closing the case an Affidavit of repeat violation was filed by the inspector after reinspection on June 12th 2024 an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector after inspection August 6 2024 on August 8 2024 special magistrate issued an order extending the compliance date to October 9th um code enforcement board obviously was closed due to the storm and it was continued to today November 14 2024 the administrative cost in this case for the clerk was $357 33 the administrative cost in this case for the inspector was $300 $357 51 uh uh total for both $7148 uh recommendation based on findings of fact issued on April 14 2022 special magistrate issued an order imposing a lean in the amount of $7,800 for 156 days of non-compliance from June 12th 2024 through and including November 14th 2024 and let me stop you there for a second because there's some inconsistency I have an order that I issued as a repeat order on August 8th August 12th back to a August 8th which was the date of the hearing so on August we we issued an order saying that the compliance date was October 9th so with October 9th being the compliance date we're just a few days at the $500 a day or I mean 30 but but it wouldn't be back to where are we getting the April 14th date or the June date maybe there's some confusion about PRI because the prior violation was not for the pool it was for something else correct the the fire prior violation was they didn't have a permit but it was for something else offense offense yes okay I'm not familiar this was inherit okay so then the um this case is strictly related to the pool for not having the required permits for the pool and that was a compliant state of October 9th so talk to me a little bit about why you were not able to come into compliance um when I when I came here in August um I was I was submitting I was uh getting in touch to get the the plans and I had asked for an extension um until I submit the new plans an extension yeah at um for uh for the permit the pool already had a permit oh you were extending the permit I was extending the permit yeah sorry I was extending the permit and um I at that time when I came here I said I I had requested for the extension of the permit and then um I was waiting for the respond back and when I got the respond back they said that I needed to change it to new plans because the code has changed and so on so I went ahead and did that and I paid the engineer for him to update my plans and he' been working on my plans since then then he gave me the plans I submitted the plans to the to the building department here and Corrections uh were uh sent to me for my engineer to to have it done um my engineer didn't capture exactly what he needed to you know needed to be changed from the plants so I requested a meeting with every single person in the in the department that had requested those changes and we were here last week I believe and um and since then I was waiting for him to give me my new plans with all the corrections which he was supposed to give them to me last week he knew about this hearing and I wanted to have it set um he did not give me this plans until yesterday afternoon and I was practically driving myself to well not myself my family was driving to the hospital because I was having surgery so you had surgery yesterday yesterday and yeah and I'm in pain right now okay so I didn't want to request like an extension from you guys so here I am and I haven't submitted paperwor because um I didn't have no time and I came straight over here so I will tell you I'm very familiar with um her design professional he and I have a lovely working relationship um so he is a lot of fun to work with but he is um he takes his time okay so um this is not uncommon for his plan sets to not have all of the required information and for him to kind of drag his heels so I'm not surprised by any of this um okay have they been submitted now no bring them to sub she's bringing them obviously to submit she has them right there so we had that meeting last week um Jay ham our chief plans examiner um coordinated the meeting with all of the plans reviewers so that they had a global idea of all of the things that they they needed to have on the plan sets because they were they were quite deficient um and we we kind of had a heart tohe heart um with her and with her design professional so that we could all get on the same page so I'm hopeful that if um these do not have everything that we on them that um we should in short order be able to get that um sorted out with him yeah and at that time at the meeting you guys gave me the option of feeling it though and i' it's been in my head because I'm just going through my like my surgery was supposed to happen in October and I had to change it because my mom got uh got into the hospital with this decep Arctic and so she was admitted at that time that was having my surgery so I had to postpone my surgery because my mom was in the hospital and I didn't want to change my surgery again so now it's like when you guys mention about it I just wanted to get this headache out of my head because it's hard to deal with this guy because he keeps them like and then he goes like set up the meeting I'll give you your plans like on time and he never did until like yesterday I call him while I was driving to the to the hospital can I wait for you I've been waiting for you I need to be in the hospital about 11:30 and he goes like I'm block away from your house and literally he just gave them to me so okay I need to submit them have them because I came straight to well you you can submit those and if you would like to talk to Jim Potter again about potentially filling that in and what that would look like for you if you don't want to pursue the permit please go upstairs to the second floor and and ask to talk to J yeah is being in my head like if if the permit goes through um and everything I'll go with the because I already have the the people that going to do the pool but if he doesn't I'm just going to like call it and just like have it feel because I just can keep on dealing with this so then are we thinking that this can be completed in January or oh yes the the the corrections are here supposedly hopefully everything is there that's what I'm hearing that if this plan set doesn't work for her that she's going to move towards filling in the hole is what I'm hearing okay yes yes okay then I'm going to amend your compliance date to January 8th and then there will be a compliance hearing the following day on January 9th okay okay M thank you thank you okay I'm going to go ahead and set the next hearing for December 12th 2024 and I'm going to approve the minutes from the September hearing and we are adjourned thank you thank you