##VIDEO ID:R674AsNH_E8## [Music] [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] for [Music] afternoon my name is Sherry sein I am the seol County Magistrate and we are going to go ahead and get started the way the process works is the county will present its case first and provide any Witnesses and testimony evidence that it has you certainly can cross-examine any of the county Witnesses um at that time and then once the county rests though it will be your opportunity to present your case and any Witnesses and evidence that you have as well I will make a decision here today if you are found in violation you'll be given a period of time to come into compliance and if you do not comply within the time period and you are here for the first time you stand to have a penalty of up to $250 a day imposed and if you are here as a repeat violation you stand to have a penalty of up to $500 a day imposed if you do have a copy of the agenda please understand um we do not follow the order of the agenda we've got our um a process that we go through up here so just be patient if you have signed in you will be called um and if you haven't signed INE please make sure that you make contact with the county now um the first case that we're going to call is 2431 cesm it's a confidential under the Florida Statutes um that is I believe an attorney Mark Jones I didn't know the case number yep no problem okay I'm going to go ahead and before we get started any County individuals who are going to be providing um te testimony if you'll please raise your right hand do solemnly swear from just County individuals not cases at this point when we call you up individually for your cases you'll be sporn in um do you Solly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do thank you okay we're going to go ahead and get started Cara when you're ready officer Hill S County Sheriff's Office code enforcement east region this is case 2431 cesm respondents confidential peror statute this property is a vacant parcel located at Shady Lane in Geneva violation charge assemble County Land Development code Chapter 30 part 17 section 30302 uses permitted storage and accessory structures on a vacant parcel is not a permitted use in an R1 rm1 zoning District the initial inspection was July 19th 2023 special magistrate order was December 4th 2024 by 8 8 a.m. followup inspections was were 1122 2024 which was the posting for this hearing um the order date on uh December 4th in again yesterday the results of my inspection was the violation still remain on the property these photos were taken on the initial inspection July 19th 2023 same date these photos were taken the posting the only thing that's been done is the RV has been removed or the camper has been removed from the property and these photos were taken um on the day of the order December 4th and these photos were taken yesterday suest a recommendation by Cod enforcement officer is for the special magistrate to issue an order constitu lean retroactively Back to December 4 2024 and Contin to continue to acrew until compliance this concludes my presentation okay I don't have the order from this yeah the prior order okay yes sir thank you I'm Gonna Stand it's just what I do um this is not our first time here I'm not sure if if you recall this particular matter um the structures that are on the property are over 60 years old um and we did file uh for variances in uh about two or three months ago uh I've been button heads with staff over that uh to the point where we're appealing the decision on it and this matter is scheduled to go before the board of adjustment on January 27th so um I would ask the magistrate to just pump the brakes until we get this resolved uh I've talked to four of our County Commissioners and all of them are on board with keeping these structures in place because common sense is going to Prevail in this um but we've got to go through the administrative process to get there so um I am um I've got a letter here uh if if you want me to bring it up to show you from Rebecca hammock and from uh Mr Hall uh that this is going going to be on the January 27th Board of adjustment okay we I'm getting confirmation that that is correct so um then what I'll do what what is it the January 24th 27th 27th okay so that wouldn't happen before our January so it's set for a planning manager's appeal hearing okay so what will come out of that um would be whether or not the appeal is um upheld or overturned and then it would still whether or not they need variances don't need variances whether or not they're going to need to permit a primary structure so we will still need to determine at that point what the Avenue is moving forward after that hearing okay so what I'll do is I will change the compliance date to February 7th um no I'm sorry I was looking at the wrong calendar February 12th and if at the February 13th hearing we have some more information where you still have to file for variances and we need to continue it again we certainly can do that but I think that'll at least give us the time to know what is going to happen um at this appeal hearing okay so I will um go ahead and order a a a compliance um continuance to February 12th with a compliance hearing of February 13th okay thank you that's G me that to okay for the record I want to go ahead and um let the record reflect that we're going to continue the compliance hearing on the Rebecca Wiggins case 2440 cesm um for due to illness so we we'll hear that at our January um meeting the compliance date will be the same but we'll just hear it at our January um resp contact the clerk yes okay recommendation also so okay it's not different but a different option okay that we were going ready to present today so that's perfect that it's yeah we need to probably we're on the same side same yeah we'll we'll still keep the um compliance date the same so she still would have had to come into compliance yesterday but then okay thank you um and the next case that we're going to call um 2277 cesm B&B land Holdings and James bets um Miss Groves hi will you be providing testimony he will not okay yep okay okay Jason Rucker Simo County building department inspector this is case number 2277 CSM B&B Lan Holdings James bets um located at 3468 East Sr 426 um this case was originally heard by special magistrate October 13 2022 and an order was issued given the respondents compliance date of January 12 2023 with a fine of $50 per day um to continue to acrew for each day the violation continued or was repeated um there have been several uh affidavits of non-compliance um on November 14 2024 an order was issue given the respondents a compliance date of December 11th which was yesterday uh with a meeting scheduled for today uh the administrative costs um for the clerk are $250 184 the administrative costs for the inspector's $900 $915 87 for a total of $1,166 71 um recommendation uh that the special magistrate issues an order constituting a lean um retroactively back to January 12 2023 um and continues to ACR until in compliance that completes my presentation there was a new compliance date right was there with a new compliance date of December 12th December 11th compliance date of December 11 2024 2024 so the the lean you're asking for would start yesterday okay okay okay all right is that all you have that's it okay okay good afternoon so just a brief U background round as you already know Madame magistrate um this has been open since 2022 um I got involved 4 months ago approximately and appeared at that August hearing before that time unfortunately our general contractor just ran away we had to uh do a demand letter on him in August and then uh do a change of contractor so we did all of that we then resubmitted the plans and as um you know Madam magistrate this is on a um wall and a watchtower and that's really it so the problem encountered when we resubmitted in September was that sure enough the same comments came back for the plans that were submitted but for everywhere else except for the wall and the um Watchtower area so we asked the um County to sit down at a meeting and go through with all the Departments and actually Mr Rucker was there and at that time the building department and the um building official suggested that we bifurcate it essentially so that we can deal with the interior issues and the other problems with not having had permit submitted in a very long time and just deal with this Code Enforcement issue so that was done and I do have some of those printouts from the portal that I can provide to you as well and so right now we had or that time in November we submitted and did a second permit so November 26th there is a second permit that was submitted and that one was just for the outside I say that the permit that was submitted by our GC now that is for just the outside still had the same site plan on it and so what has happened is we have the separate permit issued and we have the original the original one now has only one comment left and it was for a site plan for a um ground moving about the kennels so it's just related to that that is apparently based off of my review of the workflow and routing slip and based on the building Department's representations the last remaining issue for that permit and so as of the 11th we submitted that small sight plan so all day yesterday we did that separate permit and that is now in the system too and so based off of those representations that review takes 10 days and that is in in what I've been told should resolve the final issue and that's what I communicate ated to Mr Rucker however when I go and now look at the bifurcated permit there are comments again from the building department um related to the interior so I think we actually have to go back and meet with the building official again and just confirm that okay this is the last piece of it because I think what happened is we may have created Confusion by not putting a cover letter in the bifurcated permit saying this is just for this area and I think that's what's created the replication of comments that shouldn't be relevant to this permit so we are asking for 30 more days because I think you know I could ask for longer but I think it keeps everyone on their toes to just do the 30 days for your next hearing um and I I am hopeful um based off of the building official being present at that final meeting and I know he wants to work with us um that that'll be the end of it okay we have no objection to 30 days okay so then I will continue the compliance state to January 8th with a compliance hearing of January 9th okay thank you mam okay thank you thank you okay the next case is 2470 CM cytia GCO and John scaglione hi there if you'll please raise your right hand whoever is going to testify do you solemly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do thank you Jason Rucker Simo County building department inspector this is case number 2470 cesm um for the address located at 710 Wind Drive located in simol County violation charge semal county code chapter 40 pendex a 105.1 um this is for the enclosure of a carport without the required permits um the initial violation was January 16th sorry the initial inspection was January 16th of 24 notice to the respondant was uh January 17 2024 there have been several extensions follow-up inspections and computer uh inspections and the violation Still Remains on the property this slide shows that they are the owners of record of the property next slide shows the enclosure and then we have an aial on the next slide that shows that it it used to be just a carport now it's enclosed um they did uh apply for a permit back in April but that has since um it's still in plan check and to my knowledge it has lapsed this time to and they would have to start again or reopen this permit next slide just shows the workflow same as the what is it okay looks like they submitted something today the nth the 9th okay uh the next slide is what was submitted on the 9th was it a so pretty much um we were supposed to wait one second let me let me hear from the county and then when they're finished I'll I'll let you know okay so they have correction submitted as of the 9th corrections but I thought you said that the pl the permit from April was the no longer valid go sorry go back to Global Ruth Goldstein uh Building Division for the record permit number 24- 6049 if I'm reading that correctly that is the permit application that was initially submitted in April that's what this slide shows the following slide shows that it's currently in a PC or plan check status due to Corrections that the county has submitted next slide as of 129 the bottom of this slide where it says plan review Corrections and micro font that right there I believe is the most updated workflow receipt for the permit application process indicating that the respondents may have Corrections that their contractor needs to submit so it's in the process as of 129 okay so that original permit from April is in okay all right this is the code section that was cited 105.1 simel County chapter 40 pinex a recommendation based on the testimony and evidence presented in this case 2470 cesm is determined that the respondents are the owner of record of the property and in violation [Music] um in possession and control of the property and in violation of simal county code chapter 40 appendix a 105.1 I further recommend special magistrate order the respondents correct the violation on or before February 12th 2025 in order to correct the violation the respondent shall obtain the required permit for the cided violation if the respondant does not comply with the order a fine of $50 will be imposed for each day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance um the respondents must make contact with the inspector I have presented a copy of this to the clerk and that concludes my presentation would you like to submit a copy of this or the electronic case file into the record yes ma'am okay um do you have any objection to the electronic case File that's been shown up there that you have in front of you being submitted into the record no okay I'll accept it into the record okay you can go ahead um so pretty much we had purchased the home on December can you state your name please Cynthia Greco okay um pretty much we had purchased the home we closed on December 30th of 2023 um we proceeded to move in on January 8th of 2024 and within a couple days um we pretty much had to move out so we get an inspector that comes to our home because we had issues and we had people at the house and pretty much saying that you know was this the carp was this you know transferred into something else and we said we don't know we you know we did our inspections everything was fine um so we had some issues where we had to hire a real estate attorney and the reason why it's taken us so long is because we finally got into a settlement agreement um with the previous owner who was the real estate agent who pretty much came in and did all of the work to the house unpermitted and illegally so we have not lived in the house for one day um we are still not in the house and we are just trying to hurry up and get these permits approved um with our general contractor we signed the letter of commencement on August 29th and we've just been waiting since then every day just to get this proceeding going um so pretty much yeah I do have a copy of the settlement agreement um that was with the previous owner and realtor Who Sold us the home um that he is fully responsible and paying for everything as far as any of the violations if we do acrew anything and then also all of the construction okay Megan zorski planning um for the record I just want to let you know they actually have an approved site plan for me so it's the building comment so they don't need a variance we're not holding them up on my end for once okay so it's just their they're planning or they building comments so it's just getting their plans revised to meet um the plans examiner so I just wanted to let you know we're not under an extended deadline as far as getting a variance or anything so that affected your decision in any way okay thank you now is there any reason why this won't be able to go through the process before the February 12th hearing is there I mean any hold up because if if if so then I want to make sure that they have the time that that is necessary the permit process just the permit process that's all so you think um two days is sufficient for that I would think so okay um so do you have any concerns with having um and again I'm trying to be mindful of the holidays with they're working at someone else's Mercy it sounds like because someone else is paying for this contractor and if he doesn't submit everything that he needs to submit that's yeah I I wouldn't be opposed if you want to them 90 through March okay I think that that might be a little better um so what we'll do is we'll go ahead and make your compliance date um March 12th [Music] um without prying too far into your settlement agreement if you receive a fine of any sort is that covered under it as well yes it is okay um all right then I will um make the compliance date March 12th with um a penalty of $150 a day if for some reason they do not um come into compliance but obviously you'll be back in front of me on March 13th the very next day and so if there are you know delays obviously you have no no control over that then I certainly want to hear about that okay okay thank you all right thank you thank [Applause] you 2471 cesm Mary Beth and Tyler Carlson just just loud clsy hi there okay anyone who's going to provide testimony if you'll please raise your right hand do you solemnly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes thank you Jason Rucker semal County Inspector this is case number 2471 CSM is for the property located at 161 Alder Avenue um which is owned by Mary Beth J and Tyler d Carlson um the violation charges simol county code chapter 40 appendix a 105.1 uh violation is installation of a patio pergola without the required permits um the initial inspection was done 91223 notice to the respondant uh was issued 91223 uh there have been several compliance dates and extensions and there have been onsite inspections and computer inspections and the violation remains on the property this is the screen from the property appraiser showing that they are the owner of record the following are photographs of the patio pergola on next slide permit 2415 41 remains in plan check status uh system closed due to inactivity on 9324 uh this shows the workflow um now closed due to inactivity this is the code section chapter 40 that was cited based on the testimony and evidence presented in case number 2471 CSM it is determined that the respondents are the owner of record of the property located at 161 Alder Avenue and and in possession of control of the property um VI and in violation of simal county code chapter 40 pendex a 105.1 I further recommend that special magistrate order the respondant correct the violation on or before January 12th 2025 in order to correct violation the respondent shall obtain the required permits for the cited violation if the respondents do not comply with the order a fine of $50 will be imposed for each day day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance the respondents must contact the inspector uh to verify compliance I have presented a copy of this presentation to the clerk and request that be entered into record this concludes my presentation do you have any objection to the documentation that was presented before me and is provided to you being entered into the record as evidence um my my name is Mary Beth Carlson and in the beginning wait Miss Carlson can you do you have an objection to me admitting the record into as evidence I don't understand what you're saying so the county has presented what's in front of you the documentation that you you received they've presented that as evidence for their case and so I am um they have asked that I accept it into evidence as part of their case and I'm asking if you have an objection to that I guess yes I do you have an objection to the evidence being presented I guess so yeah it's been there for um over 30 years okay before we get into your case I'm asking if you have an objection to the evidence that they've presented being being given to me if you if you do that's fine I don't know I don't understand okay I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to accept the evidence that the county has presented okay you can go ahead okay um first I was in violation Vicky had um Vicky had the way said installation of two awnings and a wood fence I removed the awnings and permitted the fence then she came back and decided to violate me be for a pergula so I had drawings put up and presented it I brought it down here went back and forth and I don't know what's happened since they had come back and still said the pergula was there um so I guess they didn't accept the drawings for a permit right so that was back and and they provided the the evidence and testimony of that of what was in their system showing that you did in fact submit for a permit back in February of this year but it was and it was in plan check so I don't know where there comments that were provided um of information that was needed from the property owner corre yeah there are Corrections here um the workflow slip I can't see what they are but and were those provided to her uh I believe she has access to them okay so tell me how that works does that mean that I have to go into the system myself and check it or does something get sent to me physically uh it's a little bit like playing a game of catch with the building division whoever the applicant is on the other side of this e- plan task uh the game of catch is by task Association so we're going to throw the ball to you and you're going to catch it in the form of that task when you're done completing it you complete the task you send the ball back to the county so in this situation the county uh I can't really read it but if there were Corrections the county would have submitted all of the corrections and writing threw the ball back to the applicant to review it and then the next step would be for the applicant to receive the ball finish their play and then send it back to the county so what happens when I um as a player in this game don't have internet access or don't have the ability to access through this system our permit technicians Megan zorski planner um I work very closely with the few permit technicians that do owner Builder permits um we're very good at coordinating back and forth with our permit technicians with our owner Builder permits who are not computer savvy um for exactly this reason so what will happen is they will download the checklist put it in an adobe form so that they can email it to them so that they have a very reibly easily readable format for the owner Builder to just see their comments and then they usually call in and they go we kind of play round robin through all the reviewers so they'll usually start with like the plans examiner then the plans examiner will send them through to me and then I'll send them through to Jen in drainage and we'll just circulate them through whoever needs to talk to the person so they can get through all the plans reviewers can you tell whether that was done here if she called in she would have spoken to whoever she needed to to speak to that initial I physically came down here each time and talk to somebody okay and so what was the last thing that you were told related to the pergola take the roof well it took the roof off but I would I talked to the girl upstairs I don't remember so what I was missing were um was a height elevation to ensure that it meet setback requirements because we have different setback requirements depending on how tall a structure is and I needed to know um the side front yard set backs um I did all that and the roof overhang exceeded 24 in which then triggers a setback requirement but was this communicated to her in the fashion that you were talking about with a PDF and an email if it would have been emailed to her or if she was acting do you have email I have an email yes okay does the county have her email on fire file I need to know whether you you we actually sent it to her so if she was Act as her own owner Builder she either physically gets it or if they elect to have a permit technician act and email it to them it triggers one or both ways so can you tell what happened by by your system a paper perm so it so it's a paper permit so the permit technician would have emailed the the PDF format to her in the case of paper permits the owner is required to appear in person at the county to submit any additional plan Pages or revised documents so and then get routed back through byan to us for review because we don't track paper anymore but you track it yourself she's not required to go in and do anything okay okay so the last thing that you were asked to do did you come back to do the last I believe so okay well they're not showing any record that you have done what you need to do do so what what they're asking is that you you've got it now you'll have to now will she have to resubmit or would this permit be re she would have to is there a chance that any of this can be grandfather in I mean this has been here here's a picture he was 3 years old he'll be 33 in February I it still is required to have a permit whether it it did didn't have one I mean at the time just because it went missed for 30 years doesn't make it acceptable it there has to be a permit and and from my perspective you've acknowledged that by submitting for the permit but just letting it go I don't know what else to do well I think that it's going to Warrant you coming down here especially because they have marked you as having a paper permit it's going to Warrant you coming down here and talking to someone and finding out exactly what they need from you okay well I've done that I just well apparently with the LA yeah with the last go around of comments they didn't get addressed because nothing was turned back into to the county um so with an owner Builder type situation like this it it because she isn't I I'm assuming does she need to get a contractor for something like this or I did hire one I paid him $1,000 and he basically did nothing he just scrap WR up something you know a third grader could have done it it was and was that turned in to us I showed it County to people yes I show to okay there was obviously some some kind of documentation that was turned in for her to be able to submit the application so okay I just don't understand my husband passed away he's the one who built this I you know so here we are left I don't know what to do well I think probably the the best thing is going to be for you to come down to the County to to talk to someone to find out what exactly is necessary I think it sounds like there's going to be a new permit that's required um to be applied for um possibly a new application okay possibly um a new application for for what you have to do um so with that if she does have to submit a new application is two months sufficient I I'm not opposing to give him more time if you well I I just I don't if you think it's sufficient then I'm not but but you have to really comply with what they're telling you to do and if if how not going to comply we're the ones who have to do it no contractor wants to come up and clean up someone else's mess well they're telling me that you does she not need a a contractor for this is this something she could do herself she can do an owner Builder okay she owns and occupies the property she can do an owner Builder permit so you'd be able to do it yourself without a contractor you just need to follow the steps that the county is asking you to follow to get permit yes ma'am that's fine if they help me and tell me what I need to do I would suggest that you stop over here before you leave and get the print out of the corrections that you need to do before you leave so you know what exactly you have to do is there someone in particular that she should go to oh okay they're going to give you the information that you need as your reference to your permit file okay all right um then I I believe that since you're doing it without a contractor or you could do it without a contractor that you certainly could get this completed by February 12th um and so that's the compliance date that I'm going to give you February 12th and if you um fail to come into compliance by February 12th you'll have a fine in the amount of $100 a day imposed for each day that the violation remains but I think if you do everything you're supposed to do and you you provide the information that the county is asking you to provide you shouldn't have a problem okay okay I you know I've tried to submitted drawings and I think that that's all you'll need to do here as well um but you just need to if they give you comments and they tell you they need something else so you need to comply with that okay all right thank you thank you 24 3 cesm n Castillo sorry yeah absolutely Hi how are you I'm well how are you I'm good thank you you please anyone who's going to provide testimony if you'll raise your right hand do you solemly swear airm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do thank you Jason Rucker simol County Inspector um this is case number 2043 cesm uh located at 209 Collins Drive Sanford uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on June 11th 2020 and an order was issued given respondents compli date of August 12th 2021 um there uh was an Affidavit of non-compliance September 24th 21 uh November 4th 2021 an order was issued extending the compliance date to February 10th of 22 uh on April 14 2024 in order extending the compliance date to July 14 2022 um an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on July 20th 2022 on April 13 2023 an order was issued extending the compliance date to July of 2023 an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on July 20th 2023 on November 14th 2024 an order was issued extending compliance date to December December 11th 2024 with a meeting scheduled for December 12th 2024 uh the administrative costs in this case for the clerk are $674 190 the administrative cost for the inspector are $700 $768 58 for a total of$ 1,443 uh 48 um recommend that special magistrate issu an order constituting lean in the lean retroactively back to August 12th 20121 and uh continues to acrew until compliance that concludes my presentation okay would you there there no no new photos or anything that you provided this is your prior um okay I'll I'll accept the electronic case File that has has been um provided prior into the record the file has been provided to you all as well yes okay you can go ahead okay I everything so yeah because I have to translate just a little bit there's a language barrier Spanish is our first language so it's just takes us a minute to comprehend everything okay um and then let me also swear you in As an interpreter for her as well yeah okay do you solemnly swear airm that you will translate from English to Spanish and from Spanish to English to the best of your ability I do thank you CU she understands you it's just okay yeah yeah absolutely um what she's trying to say she purchased this house back in 2006 and when the house was purchased the real estate agent knew that the guest house was there and let my mom know and it was fine they said you don't have to worry about permits anything that was the case my mom included a stove which apparently was a violation because it turned it into a guest house which then they told her to remove the stove and that's exactly what she did because if you go in there now it's just empty there's a bathroom and there's like a little space but we just like put guests in there you know and we put like a little inflatable bed but there's nothing else that kind of accommodates that it could just be used as a storage space and now that we have a new baby in the house cuz my sister just gave birth like 4 days ago we just need to have people kind of out of the house because it's a lot for a woman breastfeeding for the first time and all these experiences I don't have experience but I can only imagine um she's applied for the permits in regards to keeping it um like she said she gives another see apply for legalize the the house and she applied to legalize the back house um and I guess I pay for an arit to make everything because she paid for the architect to double check all of the issues and accommodations removed and has anything been applied yes with the county yes yes my mom goes personally every single time it's not with me it's with my brother she know me okay so there are there is evidence of of application yes the one that's uh circled in green there that is the application that was originally submitted in 2020 um there were multiple rounds of Corrections and the building code hasang changed twice since the initial application which has resulted in additional required Corrections um since she is no longer has it as the I may not be saying an Adu with the stove top it still needs to be permitted period so she just needs to indicate on the plans where it is right now and what the purpose of it is okay okay so I have those comments when was the last time that we went back and forth with those types of comments I bring the paper either new plan with the architect to remove the Stu because he removed but don't remove he don't change 2023 for the new um chain I don't know right mhm but but H have you remained in contact at all times because we we heard this yes last I I believe in November we heard it yes um for and then we also and October possibly and then we're back here in December and it's still not done so what are what are the comments as far as the um the responses Megan has internet access sorry it's just it's a paper permit so it's just taking me a little bit longer um to navigate the system so it was routed um on in theend tail end of November um the next to last week um of November and just bear with me here because it internet's a little slow um in the chambers I am pulling up the report right now um but I have Corrections um but it looks like all of the divisions have Corrections um so it's not just myself but also building and drainage um when was the last com the the next to last week in November so just um three weeks ago so I have okay I have the approved variance it says I have looks like I couldn't read the site plan it's extremely blurry um it's still showing um the electrical plan still shows the the cook top so it's still being permitted as um like an Adu so if you want the Adu we can go through the Adu process if you want the cook top no my mom has removed the soap top okay but the plans are still showing it that's that's what she was claiming earlier like a couple minutes ago that the guy came and he didn't cross it out manually in the papers because it hasn't been there for a while but I don't think you can just cross it off it has to be the plans have to be redone if they're sealed plans the building division won't take them unless they're re completely redesigned or just updated or updated reamped or resealed oh okay he need put one note so he can mark them and then reseal them but they're going to have to be resealed with that change on them okay so if you want I'll give you my card and we can maybe all of the plans reviewers get together have a meeting with you so we can get you through this process cuz I think you're close I think it's just a miscommunication I do so let me give you my card and we can set up a meeting and get you through it okay so Megan how long do you think that um that will take I don't know what the other comments are from the other reviewers because they're individual plan their individual comment sheets 60 days by the time they get the the plans back from their reviewers because I don't know if he's going to have to reprint them and seal them because it's paper so okay um and especially with the holidays um but I think 60 days they should be able to get them if that's all they're doing is it's like electrical plans and a few minor their variances and stuff are done so they should be it should be minor okay so it's really literally just the building part yeah we're down to the the final okay the final do you know what the issues are directly like exactly there's drainage there's zoning there's yeah there's there's multiple it's it's building drainage and Zoning so let me give you my card send me an email and I'll get you all of the plans comments and set a staff meeting that way we can get everybody together and get you everything that you need okay okay so what I'll do is I'll um continue your compliance date to um February 13 or February 12th I'm sorry and your compliance hearing would then be on February 13th okay okay so um I'm a little bothered for you by your architect thinking that he could just cross through something on his signed and sealed plans um so you need to really emphasize to him the importance of um that this is his license as well and he is submitting these um plans for you so I I think you really need to put some uh emphasis on that with your architect the importance of this okay I tell him okay thank you thank you we just leave this here thank you almost done 25 2315 cesm Ronald Guzman and Sierra puer if you'll go ahead and raise your right hand please do you Solly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yeah thank you Jason Rucker s County inspector this is case number 2315 cesm um located at 3969 Centerville way Sanford um this case was originally heard by special magistrate February 9th 2023 and an order was issued given the respondents compliance date of April 14th um naav non-compliance was filed by the inspector on October 4th 2024 then on no November 14 2024 an order was issued given the respondents compliance date of December 11th 2024 with a meeting scheduled for today and Affidavit of compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on December 11th 2024 um administrative costs in this case for the clerk were $222 35 the administrative cost for the inspect ctor were $7 81.9 for a total of $14.32 and that concludes my presentation because they're in compliance okay hi okay so um the the com you are in compliance so there's not going to be a a a actual fine that's attached related to the the compliance but there are administrative fees and costs that were incurred by the county and continuing to try to get the case in compliance um so those fees are in the amount of $22.35 related to the clerk fees and $781 19197 related to the inspector fees for a total of $1,432 how long will it take you to pay that um at at least a month oh okay well more I I mean we're in the middle of of the Christmas season so I'm going to um give you 90 days to pay it um but if you don't pay it in the 90day period then it gets recorded and it is lean against your property but um so I'll go ahead and give you 90 days to pay that okay okay thank you all right thank you do we pay that um the order when you receive it it will give you instructions but be like in the mail yeah because if you wait you can't go up there and try to pay it now or anything like that because of the they have to get it in their system so okay okay thank you thank you 2317 cesm Asset Management Services of America hi there sir you raise your right hand please do you somly swear airm the testimony are about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes thank you Jason Rucker simal County Inspector this is case number 2317 cesm located at 2323 tusca Road um this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on February 9th 2023 and an order was issued given the respondents a compliant state of April 14th 2023 an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed after reinspection on April 19th 2023 the administrative cost for the clerk in this case is uh $67 69 the administrative cost for the inspector was $ 8899 uh for a total of $956,000 Commendation is the special magistrate issue in order constituting a lean retroactive back to April 14th 2023 and continues to acre until in compliance that concludes my presentation okay okay okay uh your magistrate uh I was here last year in reference to this violation and um at the time I explained I was working with the building department to get the permits approved uh my understanding based on the conversation that I had with uh Miss Liz Parkhurst and the chief fire inspector um Diaz they told me that in order to be compliant for the gay I had to um including the S plans where the gate was located and also I had to um get a KNX uh locked on the gate those were the two requirements I followed those directions uh I got a confirmation from one of the inspectors in the fire department that that was done and my understanding was that this violation was going to go away once the permit was approved I did not know that this was a an outstanding issue I have um been in contact with the uh building department um multiple emails have been sent Miss uh Ruth gste I reached out to Liz Parker um Mr Jason was at the property a couple of days ago and I also got an email a response back from Miss Diaz uh Chief uh uh inspector Diaz uh saying that she was reviewing this situation uh I believe this is um some kind of miscommunication hopefully that it can get resolved I I followed every single direction that I was told to do and and hopefully uh I don't get penalized for something that I that wasn't it wasn't my my intention not to follow to my knowledge yeah he he has been in contact with everybody here and we um Miss Diaz has not responded correctly as of today uh the last I heard uh Miss Diaz was speaking with fire inspector Brenda Pas regarding the width of the gate which appears to not meet fire code the gate is required to have a permit per building code for fire regulation and there is a width requirement for the gate and upon ins can get back there we have not yet received a written response from Miss Diaz as this was in topic of conversation as of this morning around 11:00 a.m. um but the last we heard was that the gate requires a permit and the width is insufficient for the current code but has not been obtained yet in writing okay but we knew that the gate needed a permit because that's why we're here to begin with correct which was referenced on a previous permit site plan but was later confirmed that that doesn't mean that it's permitted just cuz it was on the site plan a gate requires a separate permit and even if it was on the site plan doesn't meet code as the current WID but but the reason that we're here with with the original that was heard was permits for the gate correct corre anyway which has not been obtained correct okay okay yes sir you're magistrate so I was never advised that I needed to have a separate permit the reason why I was told that to get the gting compliance I was told to include it in the side plant and when inspector Diaz uh asked me about what's the width of the uh of the gate I said it was 12 ft wide and she said oh you're lucky uh because this is an existing gate it's a chain link gate that you open manually and she said because it's an existing gate you you don't need to have um um you can it can be grandfather and and it doesn't have to follow the I guess it's a 16 ft uh width requirement now that those were her words and if that's not the case I was not advised to do otherwise okay then maybe there was a miscommunication because the orders specifically says that the following violations are found on the subject property interior Renovations and installation of gates both without obtaining the necessary required permits yeah and just about that so those I didn't install the gate I was there before and when I appli for the pyramid back in uh July 5th 2022 the same day uh inspector Kyle he went to the property and took people pictures on the outside and then he called me he said can I can I come by your house I said yes I opened the door to the house and he started taking pictures I never put a single nail on the wall before I got my permit so he said well even even though you didn't do this because you bought the house with these violations you own them I said that's fine and that's why I'm going through the process of getting a permit so I can do the whole the entire Renovations and for the for the gate if I had if if they had told me that I had to do something else a separate permit and all that I would have done it I got I got the architect to redraw the plans to include to the lineate where the uh where the gate was located as I was told and I also bought the KNX back back the KNX lock for the gate so those were the two directions that I was told to do and I follow them I wasn't aware that now that I guess that is a a different requirement but I wasn't told at that time yeah I don't think it's a different requirement because the order is pretty clear it talks about um permits for both the gate and the internal um the interior Renovations so um and my my only concern is the period of time that has lapsed between the um inspection and the compliance hearing um I may I um I understand that this has been going on for for a while but again I've been in contact with the building department multiple times I've been here I was never told to get a separate permit I I don't know what order um if you're looking at I don't have that information with me was this order served on him was this order served on him notice of hearing was posted on the property for today yes yes but the this order Eliz well Liz signed for it so I'm assuming that it was in fact I just don't know the date of 2023 though and then okay so this order would have been posted on your property in January or in I'm sorry in February of 2023 okay but when I came and it spoke to me who signed I'm sorry may I who who signed that order well it was signed by the prior magistrate and then um Liz Parkers okay spoken can I uh request to uh have Miss L Parker be present on on this hearing it wasn't okay I was given um information just now um by um Alexis brignon um the code clerk that the order was not sent out to you um so how much time at this point do we think it it's going to take for him to go through the process and um get whatever it's in holding with with the county at this point because you all are waiting on comments correct so if if the comments come back that the gates um not wide enough what what is your intent once if you if you are told that the gate's not wide enough well F first for me maybe it doesn't matter if there was a change on the information that I that I receive but I would like to speak to Chief Diaz that she said because that was an existing gay along with the fences that because it was there for 30 years the 12 ft width of the gay was sufficient it's just a CH a chain eventually I will have something better than that okay but but right now I don't understand why I'm being penalized with all these fines when I well you you're not being penalized with fines yet um what's happening is we're trying to make sure that we we go through the process but you it sounds to me like there are um comments that the county is waiting onally Megan zorski for planning um if this fence has not been permitted previously um and the gate has not been permitted previously it's not going to meet setback requirements it's 6 foot tall he's going to need a variant um it's not going to meet setback requirements but if he's planning on making changes to the gate I thought it was oh it's a want no it's still not because it exceeds the height requirement so um it it exceeds the and it also it's not the right material so he would need to apply for variance and he so we looking at least 60 to 90 days for a variance if he wants to apply for a variance and then he has the width issue um if he if that's going to be an issue with fire um and then he's also going to have a traffic engineering review um for a setback from the road because this also would have to go to traffic engineering for review for a gate so if he were to to um decide that he wanted to put a different material gate in um to not have to have a variance and to meet setbacks um he certainly could pull a permit to do that he could it still would need to go to traffic engineering to ensure that it met compliance for traffic queuing um but if it met the material and the height then and the width for fire um then yes if it complied with traffic engineering requirements and it could be issued within if the site plan was complete I would have it issued probably within 72 hours to a week so now my question is um does he need a demolition permit to remove the gate that he didn't have a permit for no he could do it all in one he could do remove and replace okay so it sounds to me like if you are planning on changing this gate out no no you're no you're my oh you aren't okay well then the process that you will have to go through is rather lengthy um and and it's contingent on approval so you have to go before a board of adjustment that makes those types of decisions and your request could be denied of course um there are fees associated with that I can certainly um give you sufficient time to be able to go through that process through this process I can give you a continuance of your compliance state that would enable you to go through that process but you have to go through it okay um he can remove it as well if he removes it then or you could just remove it and I yeah but then the house would be vulnerable to for B glories and all that um and this Cas they said when I submitted the U before the the the plans got approved approved it was requested uh for the Set uh for the for the architect uh to let the county know what was the setback so that was established when the when the permit was approved no I think that the the permit for the site plan that you you gave that was for other alterations that's for interior alterations yeah that was related to the but it was specifically that requirement for the uh um it came from the bilding Department uh for the gate for that existing gate that the gate needed to appear on the site plan as well yes why would the gate have needed to appear on the site plan if the permit wasn't related to the gate as well we have to be okay okay so unless your architect at the time was trying to do both um that that was that was that was the uh what what the county told me for me to get in compliance with that gate I had to resubmit the site plans with the location of the gate that's what I was told okay so I'm I'm sorry if you were told that I I really don't um the only thing I can tell you is that that wouldn't have been appropriate even for the C if someone from the county told you that that wasn't the appropriate course um there were two permits required the order does reflect that there were two permits required um if the order had reflected something different then I might be of a different mindset but because the order reflects both then I need to make sure that um that you're complying with both and it sounds like the interior was complied with the fence permit was not or gate permit was not complied with what the county is telling me is that the process is longer for that related to this issue because of your zoning and so a variance would be required for it to remain in its current state or you could remove it all together if you're telling me that you want to keep it then I can work with you mainly because I realized that the copy of the order was not sent to you that's really the only reason I'm being lenient um but if you're if you want to just remove it then that can happen a lot faster or if you want to change the material to be in compliance that can happen a lot faster um so really the choice is yours okay now what is the process to know what the material that I have to use or or or what I need to do to put a new to get the variants or whatever and all of the different options I I you would need to just speak to us call us speak to us and we we'll let you know we'll get you in touch with somebody the the other thing that I wanted to bring up is that he could remove the fence for now to get in compliance and then pull a permit for whatever material he was going to put up but he's leg at a he's saying that he's not sure whether he wants to keep this fence in place with a variance or if he wants to go the route of getting the new offence that complies yes ma'am I just given him an easier solution sure but if he has to remove it then he gets the variance and has to put it back in that's probably more costly to him and I don't want to leave the the the property unprotected if you can understand that okay so really my only um the reason I am being even a little bit lenient and probably would be less lenient if this was my order um but it was done a long time ago I understand that and the fact that you did not receive a copy of the order that was sent that gives me um some concern um and so I think it will take did you say 90 days Megan to go through a variance process variance so the site plan shows the existing fence it does not show a gate that I can see um I'd be able to see it better on the this is the driveway so it would be all the way out here I do have the pl she like has 12T gate on it but this but the stamp is not for that the stamp says specifically convert to sfr only one cooking facility Allowed no 220 volt permitted in kitchenet and wet bar areas and the permit is specifically for an alteration for the single family residents so zoning review was not for compliance of a fence or a gate okay so I think we've established that um so do you live on the property sir no but it's it's a residential property yes it's vacant and it's you know it's it's gutted okay pretty much okay um then I think you can make your decision um within 30 days on um what you're going to do to bring the property in compliance and if for some reason you decide that you want a variance um and you're going to go through that process the county will certainly come back here and let me know that that's the process that you've chosen to go through through but at that point um there's going to need to be some evidence for me that you're actually going through that process there's going to be need to be an application and some of those sorts of things you m can I can I please ask 90 days no no I'm not be because I'm if you were living on the property and I I I just have a little bit of a concern with it being a non-homesteaded um owned by a corporation and um you you are claiming that you did not um I know you you received the order because it was posted on the property although it wasn't sent I know it was received um and so I um I'm having a little bit of a a problem with that because I feel like some of what you've been telling me you've been flipping back and forth based on what you hear me say and what you hear the county say and that's that's um bothering me a little bit so I think what I'm going to do is I'm I'll order you to come into compliance by January 8th so I will give you a continuation of your compliance date through January 8th with a compliance hearing date of January 9th and so in that time if you choose that you want to tear down the fence to be in compliance you'll be in compliance and then you can do whatever you would like to do with respect to a new fence or you can make the decision by filing an application related to the variance to keep the fence where it is and its current location okay thank you thank you next case 2425 cesm Amed and Sakina Nomad good afternoon good afternoon Jason Rucker simol County building department inspector this is case number 2425 CM located at 846 Isle Point sford uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on April 11th 2024 and an order was issued given the respondents compliance date of July 10th 2024 with a meeting scheduled for July 11th 2024 Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on July 10th 2024 on July 11th 2024 an order was issue extended compliance date to September 11th 2024 with the meeting scheduled for September 12th 4 on September 12th 2024 special magistrate issued an order given a response a compliance date of October 9th 2024 um October 10th meeting was cancelled due to weather conditions um and was continued to today's date the administrative costs for the clerk are $232 the administrative cost cost for the inspector was $447 122 for a total of $679 32 I recommend that special magistrate issue an order constituting a lean retroactive back to July 10th 2024 and continues to acrew until in compliance that concludes my presentation okay thank you good afternoon your honor for the record McGregor love 215 North Yola Drive um I I can refresh your memory on this matter uh briefly this is the case where uh my client uh installed a retaining wall uh just prior to one of the Hurricanes um not this year but I believe in 2023 um and then sought to permit it after the fact um and then discovered uh through the well actually I I don't want to misre represent I believe he was cited for a code violation prior to seeking permit approval uh but he did seek to permit it he hired an engineer to build it um and now there's been a disconnect or sort of a miscommunication between the um the HOA that that this property is a part of and the county and I believe we have it resolved on the county side as far as what the path forward is uh the HOA remains another matter that we will have to deal with after we've dealt with the County's process um but the first thing I did after our last meeting is talk to um to Sarah and in the environmental uh Services Department of the county because this easement is labeled as a conservation and drainage easement but it's a man-made um Lake really it functions as a drainage easement um so when we were able to work through that uh the process that we were given is okay well if you can provide us with a an engineered drainage analysis showing that you know the drainage will not you know constitute an unreasonable interference with the surrounding properties uh then we can kind of move through the process that way whether that results in a sort of conditional approval that requires a subsequent um you know approval by the HOA is a topic that we'll have to discuss with the county but that's the path that we've uh we've gone down uh the my client had an engineer as I as I mentioned who drew these plans together uh who ultimately wasn't able to uh didn't have the expertise to do the sort of drainage analysis the County's looking for but we have he has hired another engineer um and they have uh right now we we were hoping to have this in hand today but they had to do a new topographic analysis of the existing condition of the property and once that's completed which is again supposed to be completed this week uh our understanding is that the engineer should be able to produce that analysis relatively quickly um and that will be what allows us to actually move through the County's process so that's a summary of where we are um today and and I know it's um it's been a process it's not this is not a new case at this point um but but I think that if we had another um two months to sort through this that that we could come back to you hopefully with with this resolved okay does the county have any objection to two months are they working through the process as stated I don't have an issue with that okay all right then I'll go ahead and continue the compliance date to February 12th 2025 with a compliance hearing of February 13th thank you honor thank you 2437 cesm Jason Turner you raise your right hand do you solemly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth thank you Jason Rucker simal County Inspector um this is case number 2437 CM located at 5725 North Road um this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on July 11 2024 and an order was issued given the respondents a compliance date of October 9th 2024 with a meeting scheduled October 10th due to weather on October uh 10th it was uh rescheduled to today's date December 12 2024 the administrative costs in to process this case for the clerk was $1 15484 or 86 um administrative cost for the inspector was $781 for a total of $800 8047 U recommend special magistrate issue an order constituting in the lean retroactive back to October 9th 2024 um and continues to acur until um the compliant is it is in compliance um I did uh get a text message yesterday from Jason Turner that said he was not going to be here today he wouldn't be able to and um was wanting to here to be able to ask for an extension but um I believe this is his designer that he has obtained that is going to speak so that concludes my presentation okay uh Trevor NES I'm The Apprentice architect representative Jon um as of right now we've submitted the plans at this morning sealed um we're just waiting on A current survey to do a site plan um we have located it based off his uh current privacy wall so it's within all the requirements it's just a matter of just getting to the site plan at this point and getting the approval of the plans okay and I see that they obviously they didn't come in October because of the hearing continu its [Music] um and what about November why I think that was the hurricane was November was the hurricane or October no it was in October and this this um case was extended to December 12th to today oh you all extended it because you had so many yes we had so many all right um well since you have not um taken any um you haven't had any continuances and it doesn't appear like they've not worked with you all um and they've gotten everything turned in the way that they needed to get it turned in um you're you're just asking for 30 days okay I'm going to go ahead and um continue the compliance date to January 8th 2025 with a compliance hearing of January 9th 2025 and that is all thank you thank you yes 2441 cesm J5 properties 865 LLC in comp appreciate it thank you can I have you raise your right hand please do you Solly from the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes I do thank you Jason Rucker simal County Inspector this is uh case number 2441 cesm located at 1 1980 H Branch Road Winter Park uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on July 11th 2024 and an order was given to the respondent to a compliance date of October 9th 2024 with a meeting on October 10th um due to the uh weather situation on October 10th is case was extended to December 12th 2024 which is today an Affidavit of compliance was filed by the inspector on December 11th 2024 administrative cost for the clerk was $164 61 the administrative cost for the inspector was $700 $768 58 totaling uh the amount of $933 19 uh since they're in compliance that concludes my presentation okay do you have anything that you want to add okay so um I have um fees and costs in bringing this case of a total of 9339 um 16461 from the clerk and 768 58 from the inspector um how long would it take you to um bring the property to pay those those fees I'm sure they could pay immediately but probably 30 days would be a Okay window for them okay then I will go ahead and order that um fees in the amount of 900 no I'm sorry brong 9339 um due in 30 days and if not paid they will be a lean on the property thankk you thank you okay cool thank you I don't think that's Gary said the contractor that's [Applause] Che the 2446 cesm Lake Forest owner LLC Capital Corporate Services hello Amelia Cowen okay can I get you to raise your right hand please do you somly swear affirm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes thank you Jason Rucker simal County building department inspector this is case number 24 46 cesm uh located at 5433 West sr46 in Sanford um this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on August 8th 2024 and an order was issued given the response compliance date of October 9th 2024 with a meeting scheduled for October 10th 2024 uh the October 10th meeting was cancelled due to weather and was continued to today December 12th 2024 and affid D of non-compliance was filed by the inspector on uh after reinspection on October 2nd 2024 and Affidavit of compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on October 14 2024 um the administrative cost in this case for the clerk is $199 65 the administrative cost for the inspector in this case was $800 $ 48.92 with a total administrative cost of $1,485 um since they are in compliance that concludes my presentation but there were there were six days of non-compliance in accordance with my order let's see here October yeah October 2nd to the 14th okay is there a reason for the no so I have a a letter from the corporate office that says that um the office that approves the permits was closed from October 8th through the 11th due to the hurricane Milton um and then closed for the 12th through the 13th due to the weekend all required documentation for the permit approval was submitted to the inspector's office on September 20th um the permit was not issued until the 14th the first day back to the office was open um if the unforeseen weather Circumstances had not occurred and the fact that theor documentation was submitted in a timely matter the permit would have been issued prior to the deadline given the circumstances we kindly ask the board to take this uncontrollable delay into consideration and refrain from imposing any fines or leans for the brief period of non-compliance okay I'm I'll go ahead and accept um the the reasoning for the six- day delay and not impose any fines over there are costs in the amount of 99965 and from the and 8489 from the inspector for a total of $1,485 how long will it take to pay those um those fees we um I just have to submit it to corporate for approval so we can get it paid in 30 days okay um since you're not issuing it yourself and you are going through corporate I will um give you 60 days to get that taken care of and so the payment would be due in 60 days or it will be um recorded as a lean against the property okay okay thank you thank you 2453 CM BF assets 3 LLC can you raise your right hand please do you Solly swear airm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I do Jason Rucker simal County Inspector this is case number 2453 cesm um located at 3314 a Curtis Drive and a poka um this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on September 12th 2024 and an order was given um to the respondant a compliance date of November 13 2024 with a meeting scheduled for November 14 2024 on November 14th an order was issued giving the respondents a compliance date of December 11th with a meeting schedule for today December 12th 2024 the administrative costs in this case for the clerk total $199 181 the administrative cost for the inspector total $682 66 for a total for the administrative cost being 8882473797 to AC crew until in compliance that completes my presentation hello good afternoon thank you your honor um as of this morning I think we've resubmitted some paperwork again that we were told that the paperwork portion was correct we on our last visit we had been told multiple pieces of paperwork had to be refiled and with that we were then told on our last visit I went next door and spoke with Anthony that the only thing left was a survey with the setbacks would needed to be submitted could not hand it into them because our vendor of record had to submit it via e file that was done on the 2nd of this month he had gotten back or saw confirmation stating that the E file was accepted or the permits were accepted or plans were accepted I believe the fun it read and then uh my assistant manager called back again yesterday found out that another piece of paper work had been administratively oops somewhere that a uh person on the uh sunbiz site but not the owner of record had misfiled this and that was resubmitted this morning okay and so do you all have that in your records Megan can give us a real time update the update on the screen is from the 4th of December showing that there was an issue with the license holder on one of the forms okay here's Meg yeah so it's still sitting with additional documents required so it's with the applicant for them to resubmit the documents um for their licensing is what it's pending but is there anything showing that they actually have consistently given you all the information what what I I guess I'm so I'm seeing 12 12 sorry just a little slow the eth the 7th the 5th the 3D the 20th I mean it's been pretty it's been pretty consistent and why were we why did this not come in November the 11th the 23rd I mean it's been like every couple of weeks that they've been so by the time it's been going through um review and then getting back to them I mean it's fairly consistent is there a reason why this didn't come before us in the November hearing well here it says in November an order was issued so it must have given the respondents a compliance date given him a new compliance date of yesterday oh there was an amended order in November okay which at that point I was told we needed to resubmit the uh layout of the property because it Mis uploaded which I actually have a couple screenshots that depending on what computer you're at it will not upload appropriately and the time stamp this morning when what we were told yesterday according to that was resubmitted this morning as well so every time that we're asked we have been very diligent to our best other than every other hour on this Plus getting killed with the holiday within this past month seems to have kind of put us all a day or two behind it seems but again let me know what we need to do I want to get this in compliance I'm just I get and the only reason I'm questioning this is this is a fence it's just a fence it's and it's not like doesn't need a variance doesn't need setback problems it's it's just offense can you tell how many cycles there so can I ask if if I elect to be e plan portal go that route rather than paper I cannot submit anything in paper then I can only submit through the E portal correct so it's one or the other and so then if if individuals if if everything has been submitted originally by the architect through the E portal and then the individual comes in to try to assist with the process they can't even do that because it was done through the e portal so then it has to be submitted and what what happens if there's a problem with one of their professionals are you not seeing the resubmit at 9:13 this morning I think it's just because the internet's a bit slow the workflow report that I generated this morning at 9:18 shows the same 124 comment so any subsequent comments were after 9:18 a.m. Megan might have the current workflow ready to go part of the problem is when it comes back in in if it's stalled with anything with their licensing it doesn't come to me it stops a building so and I don't always necessarily see the comments back and forth between intake before it gets to me sometimes I have issues seeing because I'm not in the building division so I sometimes have issues seeing what building department folks can see um but I at one point stamped I stamped their site plan on December 2nd so so you have an approved site plan so I think you're literally stuck at your contractor licensing and what is that specifically so until your contractor licensing is is up to date with what with seol County meaning that you your license and your insurance and your workers comp all of that is whatever you need to have with seminal County here for the contractor for the contractor licensing is up to date in our system they cannot issue your permit okay I think that's where you're stuck so before that's not you that's your contractor before you leave I would go talk to the counter and find out because I've stamped and approved your your permit you're with me you're done okay um the last thing I was told on the vendor's information required was that they had to be the COI had to include seminal County I was told that that could be emailed to the BP service which I personally emailed in okay so then they're waiting then they just haven't gotten to it yet to upload it into the system to process it that takes them a little bit of time and I did that two days after our last visit together if the correction common is for the item that's on the slide that says upload the permit authorization form for all applicants the applicant in this case is Tyler cabi He's listed as the contractor this comment telling me that the permit authorization form reference is a different individual not Tyler cabi that is listed as a repeat comment um it's possible if that changed from the application till now issuance it just needs one form to be updated with the right name that was done this morning with Tyler evidently his uh cousin that is listed on sunbiz Matthew had filmed out part of this form within the same office so that was updated this morning then that's what needs to be updated before they can issue your permit okay so it's technicalities of who's doing what it all has to tie together before they can issue your permit can somebody review that to make sure that it's correct this time where it's been submitted multiple times I would go up as soon as this meeting is over and make sure be happy to okay ask one of the permit technicians to confirm if the applicant's task has been completed it's possible they could have accepted the task acknowledging that there's a form that's needed then they could have uploaded the form and then forgot to complete the task which like I was talking about a different case it's like throwing the ball back to the county that could be the simple little technicality that's missing here and if that's the case the front counter technicians may be able to fix that for you and get it routed where it needs to go for issuance so a box payment forget to be checked even though the document was properly uploaded right because essentially when you acknowledge the task you've grabbed the ball and then in order to send the ball back to the county you have to click the box and it is with the applicant so there you go that's what it is he could have uploaded the document and then just didn't click the Box um our permit text can confirm it is uploaded and correct and then once the task is submitted back to the county it'll be routed for issuance and pay and a payment first and then issuance okay it went back to the applicant at 2:57 p.m. today okay so what I'm going to do is I'm going to continue your compliance date to January 8th with a um compliance hearing of January 9th thank you thank you January 9th and would I be speaking with Tony or anyone on the first floor there Anthony or Alex okay thank you 2460 cesm Annabelle Fernandez hi there hi your honor can you raise your right hand please do you Solly s affirm the testimony your about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes thank you Jason Rucker s County uh inspector this is case number 2460 cesm located at 1982 long with Lake Mary Road in Longwood uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on September 12th 2024 and an order was issued giving the respondents compliance date of October 9th 2024 with a scheduled meeting for October 10th 2024 on October 10th the meeting was cancelled due to weather and was rescheduled for today's date December 12 2024 admed administrative costs in this case for the clerk total $43.19 the administrative cost for the inspector total $527 and 56 uh given a total administrative cost of $670 75 um recommend special magistrate issue an order a lean retroactive back to October 9th 2024 and continues to acre until the comp in compliance that concludes my presentation okay um you're in compliance now um there are fin or fees that were incurred in the prosecution of the case um by the county she she's not in compliance oh she's not in compliance oh I'm sorry I misread that goodness gracious okay um so we bought the house with a fence that was falling apart I repl a fence I didn't know I know that's not an excuse but I didn't know I needed a permit um to put a new fence up um so we put it up and then I guess it wasn't within the setbacks that it needed to be in um so I submit an application for a variance I just have to pay the application fee to proceed okay do we have evidence of there being a variance application or would it have not been accepted without the fee I have an email from November September 12th actually saying that the application was received and I have the link to make the payment okay so you submitted it on September 12th but you still haven't paid for it right I haven't been able to make the payment yet it's like I thought it was $300 but it's $600 okay so I just haven't had the chance to make the payment okay so once the payment is made we're looking at 90 days she pays it and the cut off for the next hearing date is tomorrow at 3:30 for the January hearing date otherwise she's going to be on the February agenda okay so can you make the payment by tomorrow I would love to say yes but probably not I can make it next week um I would have her I would suggest going upstairs and talking to management to see if that's something that they're willing to do um to give her a grace period since it's code enforced um they they may be willing um I I can't guarantee that but they may be willing to um because of legal advertising they may not be able to I make the payment by tomorrow then it would be tomorrow at 3:30 is our usual cut off okay um but she can go upstairs and talk to management and then if I make the payment you'll review the variance application and then I guess what would well then it would automatically go on for the January hearing and then that would put you on track to be in compliance if it's approved and be able to move forward okay then I'll just find a way to make the payment by because going upstairs all that sounds like just I'll find a way to make the payment bite tomorrow afternoon okay so then January would be when the hearing was and she'd need a little bit of time to get the um if she was approved to get the permit um application submitted to you all for approval of of the building permit um and so February 12th sounds doable 9 days there's a twoe appeal period on Varan there's a twoe appeal period on the variances after so by the time she gets it in and then we get it through review process if there's any issues with the building plans as well I mean she can apply simultaneously for the the building so she could technically get through plan review um but then if she's denied for any reason then she would still have additional plan review okay so then the county is going to try to work with you so I would really suggest that you try to get that payment made tomorrow because they're um giving you that extra time through March um so please try to have that payment made tomorrow so you can get on the January Board of adjustment here um agenda and so I'll continue your compliance date to March 12th 2025 with a compliance hearing of March 13th okay thank you thank you so what are which case are they here for because I don't think I have anyone else signed in oh I don't have anyone signed in for that okay I'm sorry 2444 CM yes okay we'll call you now I'm sorry yeah if you'll State your names please for the record James Moser Barker Alexander Moser Barker okay so okay so you're the owners of the property all right if you'll both raise your right hand do you have do you solemly swear airm the testimony you're about to give to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes thank you Jason Rucker Simo County Inspector this is case number 2444 cesm located at 2843 oral way um this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on August 8 2024 and an order was issued giving the respondes compliance date of October 9th uh with a meeting scheduled for October 10th 2024 however in October 10th 2024 the meeting was cancelled so the hear hearing was continued to today's date uh December 12th 2024 an Affidavit of compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on October 29th 2024 administrative cost for the clerk uh total $193 48 the administrative cost in this process for the inspector was $969 43 with a total administrative cost cost of $1,162 N1 um since they're in compliance that completes my presentation okay um the county has incurred costs in the amount of $193 48 and um $969 43 [Applause] um for a and it was strictly for offense permit um was there any amount of time of non- compliance on this one or was it complied timely as we could okay so there are okay and what was the 21 days yeah what was the the hold up on the so when we were here before right afterward we went next door and we started the process as the homeowners originally we were told that the contractor had to do it because he had to supply all the information so that's why we didn't do anything when we went next door and started our own the contractor had already had somebody filing for the permit so there was two in motion and then the person working for the contractor told us weeks later that the workflow had stopped because of our application but then I called in and I was told that that's not the case but it was a bunch of he's trying to do the same thing we're trying to do but as soon as we were told something that day it was done okay as soon as we knew um the the original thing that slowed things down was we took the drawing from uh the contractor out there the day of our hearing and he originally had put that he installed all the fences in the backyard but our neighbor's fence he never touched so the uh the person working at the desk just dribbled that but then it was like a week and a half later we were told well that can't be accepted and we're like we didn't do it so yeah okay okay all right then I'm not going to impose the um penalty for the 21 days of non-compliance based on your testimony but I am going to impose the cost and the total amount of $1,100 62 $62.99 how long will it take you to pay that amount um can we do four months to be on the safe side I absolutely can okay so 120 days you will have to um pay that amount um if you do not pay it it will the order will be recorded just as a lean against your property okay all right thank you Master can I take two minutes yep absolutely what about 2446 sorry I need to probably be better mindful of that is that wigg no I contined it I I did not change the compliance date I just continued it to January so she's still compliance had to be back but and I did that on the record you might not it was in between cases so and you know what there was someone up here talking to you when I did it so you wouldn't have heard there's his little house inside of his yes his house inside it's a dwelling un you have one I don't love it it's still not part yeah I don't love it you have to change the whole to what it is they recorded it oh okay but the parcel's not thank you so much absolutely I'm sorry about that if you need no problem a break and let me know I'm not sure yet okay we're g to start over from the top okay 2468 cesm [Music] um Nat veral huh um regar I wasn't even going to tempted I have a bad habit of trying to pronounce every every letter in a name so I'm sure that's wrong but Jason Rucker simal County Inspector this is case number 2468 CM uh for the property located at 1028 MX driveing a popka um violation charge simal county code chapter 4 40 pinex a 105.1 um uh installation of a garage Pavilion uh white vinyl fence without the required permits uh this case initially was inspected on 10223 um a notice to the respondents was 10 2523 there have been given several um compliance dates and extensions um a follow-up inspection on site and via the computer resulted in that the violation remains on the property uh this screen shows that they are the owner of record of the property from the property appraiser and there are several photos of the garage and some of the fence and there's structure in the here um a couple of aerial photos that show those structures as well okay next slide uh shows that there have not been any permits other than a reof 08 this slide is the section of code uh s county code chapter 40 105.1 that was cited uh based on the testimony and evidence presented in case number 2468 CSM it is determin that the respondent is the owner of record and is in possession and control of the property and in violation of the simal county code I further recommend special magistrate order the respondent correct the violation honor before February 12th 2025 in order to correct the violation the respondent shall obtain the required permits for the cited violation if the respondant does not comply with the order a fine of $50 per day will be opposed for every day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance the respondents must contact the inspector to verify compliance I have presented a copy of this presentation to the clerk and request it be entered into record that concludes my presentation um I'll accept the electronic case file into the record can you um also provide me with some testimony regarding the service um on the notice of hearing and notice of violation I know that it you have a photo showing photo it was posted okay so this Photograph let's see it would be the first one was posted November 25th of 2024 okay I have a picture in here of March 24th 2024 but I'm not seeing another picture related to the posting of on the property the very first picture in the in your yes right after the property appraisers page okay okay and so this was the notice of hearing and then how did they receive the notice of violations though were those all posted as well yeah yes they're included yes they're all included in the postings when we post them so when you post that on the property that has the notice of violation and the notice of hearing attached to it okay and you mailed those out regular maale and certified mail also was mailed first class and certified looks like the certified mail was returned undeliverable so we posted a copy of the final letter on the property okay and the final letter would have had the notice of hearing and the notice of violation no the final letter would have been prior to the case being referred to the clerk for a hearing when we first open up the case we typically send the first notice and then the the final letter is the second notice notification we do not receive notification regarding first class letters unless they're returned right but but the notice of hearing where is that when was that sent that's the clerk it's posted so I'm I'm having testimony from Alexis brignon that um the the notice of hearing was sent on November 12th for today's hearing who posts the property for the notice of hearing is that Brandy Chief Building Inspector Randy hatch okay and so does he provide an Affidavit of his posting he does there's an Affidavit of posting can get that for you do you need a copy no I will accept it into the record okay here's I executed November 25th 2024 okay I I will accept the affid posting into the record I um find that the property owners have been properly noticed to be here today and they have chosen not to attend and participate I'm finding that um there is uh clear evidence of a the installation of a garage Pavilion white vinyl fence um with without the necessary permits in violation of semal county code chapter 40 appendix a section 105.1 I'm going to order that the property be brought into compliance by January 8th and if not a f in the amount of $250 a day will be imposed 2469 cesm Ronald Mor Moran and He's listed on here as an A so tell me about that is he not um is there a deceased owner oldy yes we are we're looking here oh do you know that's not don't the what was the question in regards to the air specifically do we there's not like an estate or anything it's just is the the owner deceased or is that's just a strange way that they have it listed as a if you own it it doesn't matter whether you're an air I just and I know that that's listed in the property appraiser that's not you all so I if if not it's fine I just I don't have any other information okay and I'm the only reason I'm asking is for service purposes if the individual doesn't live there and he's just an air how he became the owner respons we do have a signed green card from someone named Venus Moran possibly Hunan Moran would be the same last name oh it's type it's right it's written in print right beneath it sorry Venus M Moran acknowledged receipt of the notice of hearing for this hearing on November 18th 2024 okay received by the county on the 20th okay good deal go ahead Jason Rucker inspector simal County uh this is case number 2469 CSM um located at 740 Old Lake Carney Road in Geneva violation charge semal County code chapter 40 appendix a 105.1 uh violation is installation of pergula generator white vinyl fence two accessory structures without the required permits okay um there have been uh the original inspection was done 1121 23 notice to the respondent was 1127 23 there have been um several extensions um and compliance dates uh follow-up inspection was done both in the computer and a site visit um and the results are that the violations remain on the property uh property appraisers uh sheet shows that they are the owner of record um next slide shows that they did sign a green card for this notice of hearing today here are several pi pictures that have been taken was out there on the 3 of this month and then there's a picture of the generator that was taken November of last year and the pergola there are some aerial photographs showing um the wood fence on the property as well as uh the two accessory structures um next page shows that uh they did apply for permit 2023 um one uh permit shows that still in plan check for the pera then there's a solar system that's uh permits been issued uh next slide shows the uh in progress with the routing and workflow for just the pergola not for the the generator the fence or the accessory structures correct okay um copy of the workflow routing slip uh system is closed nine or sorry 5924 due to seven days of up upload period next slide shows our code that we cited simal county code chapter 40 fix a 105.1 recommendation based on the testimony and evidence presented in case number 2469 CSM it is determined that the respondant is the owner record of property um located at 740 overway Carney Road and in possession and control of the property and in violation of simol county code chapter 40 appendix a 105.1 it is further recommended special magistrate order the respondant correct the violation honored before February 12th 2025 in order to correct the violation the respondant shall obtain the required permits for the cited violations if the respondant does not comply with the order a fine of $50 a day will be imposed for each day the violation continues or are repeated after compliance the respondent must contact the inspector to verify compliance I have presented a copy of this presentation to the clerk and request that this presentation be entered into record that concludes my presentation okay okay I'm going to find that the property owner was properly noticed to be here and they have chosen not to um come to participate in the hearing I'm going to find that there is evidence of installation of a pergula generator white vinyl fence and two accessory structures without the necessary permits in violation of simol county code chapter 40 appendix a section 105.1 I'm going to order that the property be brought into compliance on January 8th 2025 or a fine in the amount of $250 a day will be imposed the next case 2336 CM Patrick and Nicole McCarthy Jason Rucker simal County Inspector this is case number 23 36 CSM uh located at 400 East Hill Crest Street out to mon Springs this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on March 9th 2023 and an order was issued given the response to compliance date of April 14th 2023 an Affidavit of non-compliance was filed by the inspector reinspection on April 20 on April 18 2023 an Affidavit of compliance was filed by the inspector after reinspection on December 11th 2024 oh sorry this one was continued to January I'm told hospital she's in the hospital so he is so then they've requested a continuance to January okay so when those happen after something has already made it on the agenda then what do is um you can just request the continuance let me know that the individual has and then we'll continue it on the record okay so we'll continue this um this case to um not the compliance date or anything we'll um continue it completely and I guess it is in compliance but um we'll continue the hearing the compliance hearing only to January 8th or 9th yeah January 9th maybe that's why they didn't have a here I'm going to give you this back then and then the final case 2452 cesm Sergio Salazar Jason Rucker simal County Inspector this is case number 2452 cesm located at 3572 Jericho Drive in Castleberry uh this case was originally heard by special Magistrate on August 8th 2024 and an order was issued giving the respondant a compliance date of October 9th uh 2024 with a meeting scheduled for October 10th 2024 on October 10th uh the meeting was cancelled due to weather and um the respondents case was continued to today's date December 12 2024 administrative cost in processing this case for the clerk was $54 86 the administrative cost for the inspector was $915 187 with a total administrative cost of $1,070 73 C uh recommend special magistrate issue an order con uh constituting a lean retroactively back to a October sorry retroactively back to October 9th 20124 and continue to ACR until in compliance that concludes my presentation came in a find that the um order in this case um um the the respondent was present at the hearing and participated in the hearing when he was given a compliance date of October 9th 2024 um and the order was provided um Alexis can you provide me with testimony as to um whether the green card was signed for for the order and the compliance hearing providing the hearing date um actually because the case was continued was there a subsequent hearing um notice that went out for today's hearing okay and was that um received by the respondent yes and was the green card signed yes okay let the record reflect that Alexis beron has provided testimony that the the notice of hearing for today's hearing was provided by the um clerk's office and was received in fact by the respondent and that the testimony provided by the county the respondant is still out of compliance as of the date of this hearing and so I will ratify my prior order of octob of [Music] um August 8th imposing um the Alexis do you have that order did you give it to me am I holding it I'm holding it um my order of August 8th 2024 imposing a daily fine in the amount of $100 a day that fine will um be imposed effective October 9th 2024 which was the date of compliance and we'll continue each and every day thereafter that the violation remains I am going to impose administrative costs for the clerk and the inspector in the total amount of 1,000 okay the okay so the the total amount is 76276 so the um for the for the inspector cost at 76276 or the building division was 60790 and the clerk was 15486 giving us total of $762 76 okay perfect so just for the record I'm going to impose fines or um administrative costs and the total amount of 76276 to be paid within 30 days and my um order ratifying my prior order imposing the fine and the cost will be recorded as a lean uh against the property okay go ahead and set the next hearing for January 9th 2025 and that is all of our the that those are all of our cases for today thank you thank you [Music]