##VIDEO ID:dLGuXYf-aWk## e e e e e e e e hi Becky hey how are you I'm okay and you all right everybody's everything's notifying me I'm sorry I'm getting music and sounds and beeps from [Music] everywhere so the um siding and trim around that rear hose bib has been uh installed oh great yeah he was going to work on that last week I just haven't I haven't been over for since Friday I was they were doing that um Monday and um when I left there well they had um there was a lot of the PVC left over that they were going to toss and so I scavenged a certain amount and then um I went uh I was going to go home and I saw Steve Sullivan and his crew outside the highway department so I stopped in there and they came down with a truck and took it all back and have put it somewhere I didn't hang around so um we have some spare parts nice I umum I have a box of tile I now have a pile of asphalt shingles in the hallway downstairs it gets it starts to pile up um I wonder if we could um you know talked about talked to Steve about a spot for you know materials you know you don't need materials um amongst everything else at Town Hall and that could be maybe Steve will know a place here's Frank and Steve is coming I talked to him just a little bit ago hi Frank hi Frank you're muted yep we're getting there it's all the buttons you have to push about recording and everything else right yeah so since um Anna's not GNA be here and um I assume Jeff isn't because he's away this week um I called um Bert Fernandez on the story commission and postponed their presentation oh okay because I thought it would be better that the whole committee see that and we have a discussion and I still think it looks weird to First kazeo on a sign a sign post well you know I often go past uh that signpost as you're going into montigue on 47 yeah and I mean that doesn't have anything over it and it looks fine and I mean when I look at their um plans um for this gazebo I mean that's a pretty uh involved structure I mean that's not just you know throwing up some 2x4s and 6 by sixes and it's like the time that and money that's going to be spent there why not just uh be more diligent about painting and you know doing whatever minor uh maintenance the sign board needs my thought if it was so precious they could put it in the new library and people could walk around it and it' be preserved forever but that's not what signed boards are it's right no they suggested that they wanted oh really yeah that was one of the their thoughts um the live Library folks had a different idea yeah 4400 Square the library doesn't have the space for the sign board no hi Steve hi Steve all right well we have our uh Quorum and I think this is going to be it for this evening so at uh 5:34 I call the meeting to order so everyone had a opportunity to take a look at the minutes I made some changes any other thoughts changes do do I hear a motion to accept the minutes from um what is that the 10th of July I'll make a motion that we accept the minutes and a second m i Sullivan I thas I thank you okay um Steve because Anna is not going to be here and because Jeff's away and I doubt he'll be here I um called the um Bert Fernandez at the historic commission and postponed their uh presentation about this gazebo um because I thought it would be good to have our entire committee I can save them some time okay meaning I just agree with Bob Grill's assessment that that thing has been repaired replaced fixed so many times that there's nothing left that needs to be protected so basically you're saying you don't see the the reason for a gazebo and well that's just that end of it and then I don't want to see it there on the comment anyway you mean the Gazebo the Gaze that's correct the Gazebo yeah yeah well I I I think it's a u I'll say it's an odd precedent to set for for sign boards I mean it's like why not just have a gazebo forget the sign board well I'm not I'm trying to remember we had roundin round discussions the select board and the historical Commission not sure where whether the select board approved or supported the Gazebo um when I talked with bertke Fernandez I asked him if it's gone through the select board yet and he said no he said they the historic commission were hoping to get um our uh backing for this project um to then you know go to the select board with because I you know I had a conversation with him months ago and I told him that I really uh had a hard time with the thought of creating a structure to protect a structure and historically it just sits there and it didn't seem uh to make much sense plus it's going to have to be updated with a roof every 20 years or so didn't make sense to me well you know and Anna brought up one of the things she brought up besides uh you know wind loading and and you know being designed to tolerate winds was about the head height and on those drawings which I sent everybody the one that shows the underside of the beam I think that's at six feet so it's fully exposed to the wind right yeah you're talking about the Gazebo well the the the sign board in the Gazebo right yeah yeah there's no there's no protection other really than the roof and the fact that the size the footprint uh extends some distance past each face you know so if there's if there's very little wind but the common is the windiest part of town it's just basically you're saying whenever it rains it's probably going to get wet yeah yeah and you're GNA have snow drifts on it so even if you protect it from the snow falling you're going to it's going to be covered in snow drifts like it normally is so I don't know how much protection they're actually giving it I think I mentioned it before but when they emailed all that info to the highway superintendent they only asked him if it was going to um be an issue with the sight lines and so the highway superintendent responded back no there would not be an issue with the sight lines but they didn't ask any other questions how but where where are they planning if they put it back right where it was it will be an issue won't it no and they're going to move it move it in a little bit and I think towards the old library a little bit too it's not going to sit on the base that it has right now okay and is that because of wanting to put the Gazebo on it I believe so and it's going to look I mean next to the memorial right there I don't know it'll be a lot of stuff jammed into the corner well it sounds like um I'll be surprised if uh Jeff or Anna are in favor of it yeah are you going to take a vote at the next meeting well we'll let them make their presentation and then um ask questions ask questions and I mean we can we can vote on it or we can say we'll uh take this under consideration and get back to you um okay well we'll continue that next time so Becky um anything um wa it that's not I'm looking at the wrong thing so uh update on the uh elementary school so uh the leaking hose Bim on the south side was replaced and on Monday uh the contractor replaced the siding and the trim around that and except for that area the exterior of the school uh has been painted except for up on the roof um and then the courtyard which if it ever stops raining again they intend to do and then uh Jeff and I are going to paint the doors Jeff has the paint I actually went up there Monday and spots sanded the rusty areas and put a rust preventative primer on those spots um Stephen yes I mentioned to Jeff that there are four additional doors inside the courtyard that will also need to get painted oh I appreciate that he's gonna buy more paint these are these are all the fire doors right not not the entry doors but the doors yeah the the the the emergency the emergency doors that have are already painted none of the brown aluminum doors with the glazed ones those are not being painted no just the ones that already are painted the same you know they're currently painted the same uh trim color that the school was and that's what we're going to use you know the new trim color so are the the doors in the courtyard do need to get painted though right yeah okay well the metal if the solid metal doors yeah yeah yeah they're this they're the same color as the all the exit doors okay what color are the new doors going to be same is the trim the green trim okay question um did the contractor ever get back about the nail spacing oh yeah um they they they um talked to the gentleman who they had spoken to on the phone and asked him if he would put it in writing and he said no way so they then um spaced everything at 16 in on Center okay and what they actually did which which I thought was nice is they prior to installing a piece on the ground they marked 16 on inches on Center so actually you know every Fastener is in the same spot 16 inet there three for the fascia pieces they three Fasteners as you go vertically oh so it looks nice yeah I can report I F I finally got them their first check today all right they had to wait over three four weeks from when they gave it to me it was felt kind of bad it's usually faster but Ryan was in Alaska and then we had to get our questions answered before I could submit it so but they were happy to get it and they said that um next week the weather looks really good they the painter is going to need four more days um he's at their estimating um so that's what they'll be working towards completing next week um the contract he reminded me says the 16th of August and I said if you you know we're happy to extend it another week or two whatever you think if if we have bad weather next week but otherwise they're they're busy they just landed another job and they're hopeful to wrap it up next week hope for the weather yeah and they've been um the painters have been in the courtyard um over the weekend well they ended last weekend they tried to be but it but anyway that was a good thing because the school was locked up and they were going in and out of the courtyard with by ladder so that worked right well and um Rick told me that you know once they mask all the doors and windows that's the only way that they will be doing because I went I went into the courtyard that way last week to talk to them oh good I won't do that Becky were you able to find out anything from concom regarding the dam keeper shed not uh not the damn keeper shed but I I have an email into her I hope to hear back I'll let you know what she says but they're gonna tear out Dudleyville Dam if you're interested oh yeah when is that that's gonna be the 19th oh I I'll let Matt know because he was asking me today from Leverett oh good that's a good thing for him to know about yeah I think we're gonna oh we should be putting up signage they're probably going to have to close the road I better ask if they're just using like a an escavator or a crane they'll be at least that will be off the road yeah but if they're going to stick a truck right on the Culvert then they'll be blocking the whole road I will I I'll get in touch with Susie bnia sorry for going off topic Stephen no problem Oh since we're still we haven't really left the school yet I talked to Stephen about this the other day but I would like to see all of the sheds painted the same color as the the siding and the trim especially the um the purple [Laughter] one it's supposed to be a school with a shed set to the side of it not a shed with a school behind it well I like the word uh a shed I think there's four now or five yes but there's only one that's five there's five there's one that would have yep but that one set back by the preschool one set back by itself where the red seems to be okay for a preschool shed but the other four should all be the same yeah I agree so how how can we make that happen our painters buildings are vertical right they're not horizontal so it sounds like it's a buildings committee thing oh it's definitely buildings commit but where's the money and the paint and the people we'll have to find that looking for volunteers or should we be talking to the contractor to have him give us a quote on doing that or or no it's it's going to be volunteers because Matt's two sheds they may need a little bit of work where they need to have some plywood stuff replaced because they they seem to be rotting yeah although Matt may have replaced all of the rotting ply but I'm not sure well they remember the guy Andy Andy replace the rotting stuff he rebuilt oh yeah oh yeah the retired custodian yeah yeah the woodworker he replaced a lot of the Interior where it was leaking and did a lot of work well maybe the first thing to do is to inspect the sheds a little bit see what their condition is um and if they need any repairs prior to painting then maybe you know with some of the volunteers um we could get get the repairs done and then what would you think of you know the school is going to look really nice and if we uh asked for any parents you know who have kids at the school they would join you know our quote volunteer painting group you know we wouldn't let them lead the way but you know if we got one or two people um who had had some experience painting I I would love to to um paint one of those I would do it all by myself all right I know which one you want to do so the oh the pur one the high the highway department received an Amazon package today that includes a cordless paint sprayer because we need to the highway department needs to spray their container out back to match the sides of the building and so now we have a I think it's a one quart sprayer that's back batter operated very ni I'm so glad you're going to paint that thing in the behind the highway Barn well you know I would like to I don't know how much paint will be left over but um I'd be surprised if there isn't some paint left over which I mean Santos was so happy for us to take you know whatever you know trim material I mean there was so much that was only maybe an inch and a half wide and I didn't see that that would be useful uh in the long term but you know we have a good inventory of PVC trim that he was just going to toss and you know where are they going to if there's leftover paint where are they going to use that paint um so I would we could when they get finished we could talk to them if there's some pain left I would like to think they'd either give it to us or give us a good deal on it and that would be the be the start for um you know acquiring paint for the project that sounds maybe Anna would be willing to organize some volunteer parents are her are her kids at the school they go to oh good I think she her daughter's going into third and I think she has a younger daughter I'm not sure but I know that she has a a daughter the same age as my grandson well that would that would get us most the way there if they had enough paint and and we spec the paint so we know what colors to get um right oh and I've got to give him back the painting so uh Steve do you want to make a motion to um having the building committee organize and uh you know the painting of the four sheds I make a motion that the buildings committee set out to find some volunteers to make sure that all of the four sheds on the west side all match the paint team of the school building itself second all in favor mcin I Sullivan I dmas I okay great Stephen will you bring your mirror to inspect all the work you mean of the sheds yes of course good that'll be fun yeah you that um Rick said he wanted Stephen and Jeff and me on his team he said you guys are great I want you all on my team things come out really nice so those sheds are on the east side right yes they are okay Frank did you uh have an opportunity to check check out the code on ground rod depth uh I can't find it online it's not they're not required and they an electrical system requires a ground R yeah that yeah that they they come four four to six to eight feet long and was there a minimum driven depth not that I could find I think the length of the rod four six or eight I would hate like hell to put an eight well the eights were very expensive but uh well I would think a four driven you know flush to the ground and then just dig dig down just a little bit and attach that ribbon wire I mean I could go and I mean I'm now I question whether there's one at the opposite corner of the building I think but you know there was no nothing was being done there so I don't know if that one's attached to anything in the ground probably not I actually might have a smaller some three foot we had a u when we moved into this house they had electric fences up at the pasture and there's a whole bunch of I've been finding a whole bunch of stainless steel ground rods so I might have one that we could use it's getting it in the ground either hammered or hammer drill and is stainless conductive I don't know I thought you can buy them at you can buy them at the electrical store so some are some are um stainless and copper coated thought that was interesting they're not all copper because the copper would bend right right so I agree it's I think it's there's enough tall trees in that area right trees the trees will be the next thing that hit it not not the elect and they weren't they weren't that height when that school was built yeah they probably weren't there weren't even there yeah no that you could that blue house didn't have any trees when I was in college wow you could see forever from that house hey so when I uh cross the uh roof over to the Courtyard I noticed the strainers have been removed from the uh gutters in the courtyard and the on the on the South Side as well it was either seven or nine of them yeah and I clean out all the gutters while I was doing that good yeah I mean I don't think there was except for what was accumulated around the strainers uh the only other thing I really saw in the gutter was uh granular runoff from the new shingles I got two five gallon buckets of organic matter out of all you know all of the all wow good the nice thing was it only took about 15 minutes to do the whole thing hey was there any leakage in the last two days do you know of inside I haven't heard nobody's said so so someone's in the building on yes there's people in the building okay because the lake the lake is up about four inches from the last two rain rainstorms so we've gotten an awful lot of rain in the last few uh a few days so we would have seen something yeah more rain we've gotten more rain than some of those other storms because the ruts in the uh the road I go up is has gotten very deep um and Howe has had the SLO way all the way open for almost a week I think so he's and there's nothing coming through it it's all no he closed it then yeah he closed it yeah he he closed that it's just the spillway SP only the spillway right now Spillway is for the first time more than a trickle in weeks I keep a rain gauge in my yard and the last three storms uh have been one side or the other of an inch of rain each time and then there have been a few like eighth of an inch in additions but I'd say probably had three to three and a half inches of rain over the last three storms and the one on Sunday I was driving through Leverett and that um you know where the Sawmill is on the Upstream of The Sawmill the water had gone over there's a a culvert that comes down down and under the road it comes down the hill and under the road and was just it it it just broke through the bank and the whole area was flooded there was just water coming into the Sawmill River from every side and it was was totally flooded but it was you know there was still about a foot before I got to the house that was on that's in on spils in there so they were okay but it was a lot of water that afternoon you're talking about the old snow sawmill in North lever correct so I did a little uh a little bit of research on uh sewer augers and um there are a lot of augers that uh are R are uh rated as 100 feet in length and they range from 350 to 575 and I'm sure there might be some more or less there was one that I found I was looking you know I was looking for something that was longer than 100 feet so there's a particular brand of Blue Rock it's one 1.5 horsepower and I guess it has different heads because it says 2 in to 8 in and then it said it was 120 feet but then it said 165 ft maximum maximum run out cable Steve do you know what that means maximum run out cable I don't know if that if that means that you could put on 160 ft and that's the most that it will whatever the pressure is I'm not quite sure I was wondering if the unit itself had some of its some cable and then there's another 120 ft but that one was $1,649 yeah that's that's what I found was the the 100f Footers were up like that 500 but as soon as you jumped to 101 feet the price skyrocketed but then there's also this it's not an augur it's it's a jedar apparently high pressure water we could I that's that's all that we would need anyway we wouldn't really need we're not in the sewer cleaning business right so well so the Jetter I found it's a boss jet it's 1.5 horsepower 200 feet but that's $250 when I had worked down at my old house in Providence um the guy who did the auger just said make sure you never do high pressure on Old pipes because they burst them they burst the seams ah and uh you know there and you have to know what you're doing um and he said other than that you can really screw up things because you can blow a hole in the side of the pipe and you'd never know so then I started thinking well maybe the prent thing to do is to uh do some measurements like what's the distance from the back of town hall where that underground drain is to the outflow you know down in the down in the field there and then I guess the other thing is with something like a underground drain you know the daylight somewhere can you go from both ends so it's like if you had a 100 feet of cable and the total length was say 170 five you do 100 100 feet from one end then you do 100 feet from the other and it ought to be clear right if it's schedule 30 or schedule 40 pipe you can definitely do that but you might get hung up somewhere where the joint's not super tight but you could definitely go from both ends if it's as long as it's scheduled 30 or 40 so um schedule 30 or 40 what does that mean schedule 30 that's the white one that you see that's daylighting out in the field okay and then the schedule 40 is the green that you'll see in a septic system or you'll see it in where um septic systems have to have a pump they'll go all schedule 40 but the 30 doesn't stand up as well they being driven over yeah it's it's a thinner pipe Stephen it's it's like a like you call like residential commercial just a thinner PVC pipe okay I'm sorry so the thinner ones you have to always worry about because you can you can blow them out and you know you do stuff to them they don't hold up but the heavier ones you can then you get up to the gray ones that are on the electrical they're but 60 schedule 60 so but the the 30 and the 40 they're both plastic they're all plastic they're all high high temperature PVC so so Steve what would be the other type of pipe that you wouldn't I mean it would be older like terracotta or well there's yeah there's ter there is I mean there is some clay pipe still around but a lot of it would I can't remember what the name of it is it's that black pipe that it was almost like rolled toar paper that's what we had at the 32 that's the one that if you put any pressure water pressure on at all it's just going to blow up yeah I I remember that from when I did inspections there was there were sections of older developments built I think in the 50s where they use that as their waistline going out of the house yeah everybody did yeah needless to say they were failing or had failed time for coffee cans so I guess um we really aren't any further along on um getting an auger so Steve I mean just with the little that we know um I'm assuming that that line that leaves the back of town hall that you tried to clean out in the past where you got to a certain point not that far in and you couldn't get any further um do you think one of these you know these 100 foot ones lesser expensive ones would be able to deal with whatever yeah I don't know I because it dog legs at 90s at least twice so I don't know if anything can really get through there yeah you need somebody with a camera first so how far uh from the point of entry into that little patch base in there by the back door how far do you think you go in terms of linear feet before you can't go any further you can't you can't even really get once you're in the ground you it a foot really it dog it dog yeah it's got 290s right away and from there once you get through those 90s it's probably a straight shot out wherever it goes so it sounds like the the solution is you dig it up and you fix it hey everyone yes um as we've been sitting here quietly um I was kind of dreading six o'clock but um so the last couple weeks uh Ure had come and moved um the testing for the generator to 6:00 p.m. on Wednesdays and for the last two weeks all the power's gone out and shut down and everything's gone to hell at six o'clock but he was here earlier today and he fixed it so we made it through they do the same thing on Saturday did they fix the Saturday uh they moved the Saturday to Wednesday well he almost he moved to First till Tuesday without asking me at 6 o'clock I was like you cannot but on Tuesday you know in the middle of a select board meeting it would have been bad but it's all fixed so um I'm very I was happy we had a shorter agenda but we're still good so we can keep going okay okay it occurred to me that um I don't think that the um the roofer who I think Jeff in contact who you know I met him out there this is at the spear library and he was going to come and repair the roof the shingle the um the slate roof the slate roof right yeah I don't think that's happened no we'll wait till Jeff it comes back next week next gentleman a call again and who was it you were working with Stephen let's see if I kept his was it Mitch Hawkins does that sound right well actually I see yeah I have notes Here uh Jeff Jeff quacken bush is the person who had initially brought this info so I think that's who it is okay great and I have to Rave about Anna's suggestion about DF Plumbing they were amazing I don't have the bill yet but it's ES it it was closer to 800 did I tell you the other plumber wanted $2,000 for the faucet all right and he didn't want to split out labor in parts and that's our good friends PVE down uh the old um Wittier plumbing company on 202 so I am not going back to them keep local they're not local anymore right but DF was they were great they came in and got it done in two days awesome from quote to you know from my first conversation I had a quote the same day and they did it the following day on Monday awesome I'm so I was looking for was it DF Plumbing yeah yeah okay because I had added added that as the U the three different um recommendations that Anna gave so that's who we used great yeah yeah that looked like a pretty um expensive hose bib art yeah if you looked at the the original was too yeah yeah the faucet was but he found he found one that wasn't identical but he went through the warehouse and found one that fit that was had all the same specs right and and they came in they and then they put in um a door into the wall to be able to access it um so if it breaks again it'll be easier to work with um because we'll have access there was no it was just cinder block before yeah there was access to the shut offs but there there no way to get to the actual unit right yeah it required a second you know a new door to be put in and they did that on the licky split wonderful and it stopped leaking yeah you know that's one of those things where wouldn't the um school superintendent I mean I assume that's been leaking for a while because because when Rick opened that up uh took the siding off the sheathing was wet and there was other rot and Decay at the bottom suggesting that had been a longterm thing and it would have been nice to have been notified well I bet nobody actually knew probably just thought it was where the hose was connected remember it was surrounded by flowers and all oh that's right y yeah the I think they left the hose on all winter too so something they wouldn't have seen I wonder you know if that's a frost free and they left a hose on and it had a Noz on it that could have been what caused uh the problem you know could have Frozen that so we to make sure they don't leave the hose on this year just for many years it wasn't used at all because it was just turned off along with that water fountain that's on the corner it it wasn't until recently they started using that again because of the plant all the plantings yeah the gardens they were putting in oh I had a thought um after I mean we could even do it now but you know after the school painting is finished I mean it's almost finished if what you would think of this uh of taking several photos or just one photo showing how nice the school looks and essentially sending that out to the entire Community um you know saying something like look at look at what your tax dollars have done for our school or or just look at um what we're doing for our children in shoots Perry you know it it needs to be three photos three you have to have a you have to have a picture of each roof each each one the gym roof and the rest of the you can't yeah you can't just show the pretty paint paint you have to show those two super expensive roofs Okay g roof the asphalt roof because this was um and project started in 2020 and make it clear that they were replaced and not repaired [Laughter] Mar and and that they're all organic sorry no but I mean do you think that's a good idea yeah yeah that that would be good because I I was I was pondering doing that on next door but it' be way better if the buildings committee did it yeah yeah that be sweet and um what was I thinking we have some aerial photos of the roof that [Music] um Cole took I I'll look for those oh great oh that drone thing yeah he bu the Drone for an hour or two every time he came out I have a friend who has a drone uh he ask him about that because that'd be nice once the whole thing's done just do a quick uh video drone of the whole thing and then post it on the uh shpr website shoot.org from a YouTube and then just say we use the the Sho Perry Town account and just say this is what we've did this past since 2020 we've updated the school it's going to last another 20 to 30 years that means we should start working on funding in 10 years yes okay okay anybody have anything else I am good Steve anything else no I don't okay well as when the uh Jeff and I finished painting hopefully next week we'll U start on the doors um and um but once that's done then I'll get back on um inspecting um I have I have to still have the attic to go into at um the fire department don't want to do that when it's too hot out um and then I've got Old Town Hall to do um you know and the the elementary school if I can get everything except the elementary school done before the end of summer I will consider that an achievement and um you know we we know we know the exterior of the elementary school should now be in pretty good shape the one thing I noticed Steve I noticed that the highway department did some patching of various uh Road surfaces not too long ago am I correct yeah we're going to be heading to the school parking lot one day next week with the pouch great yeah because I was going to say I I bumped through a couple of them when I wasn't paying attention yeah NE because of the rain this week we didn't get to dig out those beds and put the mulch in we're going to do that next week too the other thing at the school I noticed looks like when there's a heavy rain uh if you're driving into the school on the we'll call it the entry drive as you get near the base where the parking lot begins um there's a lot of wash out you know along the left side of the road and then that washes down and goes into that catch Basin you notice that you know what I'm talking about oh yeah we swept it the other day and then the next next night it rained again but yeah so we're gonna um up at the top by the sign we're gonna make a Waterway so because if you look at it there's a Swale a grass Swale behind the the the shutesbury school sign that's out there at the corner and it runs down beside the side between the sidewalk and the woods except that the Verizon black top had filed it filled it in but we got to open it up again so the water runs through there and not because right now it's running down around the corner and that's the issue why it's cutting at the bottom makes sense Steve I think my driveway ran out of gravel to dump on to liate Road maybe it can run all the way down to Pratt Corner that would be helpful I was trying to get it cleaned up this last time but it was [Music] gone okay so do I have a motion uh to end the meeting a motion we end the meeting second roll call vote pardon roll call vote right Meg hi Sullivan hi down Masai thank you everyone see you in two weeks you and we'll meet with the uh historic commission about their gazebo exactly Thank You by night thank you good night everybody thanks night