##VIDEO ID:5XKPwkbjglo## this government meeting is brought to you by eastw works and our local cable subscribers all right the time is 6:01 this is the uh regular January meeting of the Southampton local school committee we called to order with five out of five members present including our building principal and our superintendent first item on the agenda is approval of the minutes of December 11 2024 move to approve second motion made by Kim to approve seconded by Margaret any discussion or amendments heing none all in favor I I opposed none passes unanimously any member for public comment seeing no one circulation of warrants we're still continuing those electronically any announcements or correspondence nope principal report okay our enrollment continues uh to be the same as last month 4 181 students although over the last couple of days um we did get a couple new students but I'll report out on that next month um some of the activities this past month the past three weeks I would say because we had a week of vacation grade five crafted gingerbread houses with their reading buddies on Friday December 20th our music teacher Mrs lefon led the fifth grade students in a holiday songs across the hallways of nor school to get everyone in the holiday spirit um that was on Friday December 20th as well this Webster Mrs Webster's kindergarten class gave out kindness cards to staff members um preschool students were looking for the gingerbread man after they read the story and did a really great activity um on Thursday at December 19th our second language Learners will be participating in Access testing beginning this week our grade 1 through six students will be participating in the second round of fastbridge and trim assessments this week um some of our faculty staff updates um our teachers met in vertical teaching teams on December 13th on that half day for professional development our technology department has checked all computers to make sure our devices are compatible for upcoming mcast testing in the spring our school-based occupational therapist Carly fry has accepted a position in a clinical setting her position was posted and we are happy to announce that Teresa modley will join us on January 21st cafeteria manager Kathleen KY is leaving to become a district level food service director in another District um her position is posted and we will begin interviewing soon our PTO provided bagel's coffee and hot chocolate for all staff prior to the holiday break which was really nice and we have again ordered from a local vendor mantis graphics for our school spirit wear many families ordered um and the PTO along with Mrs lukaz made sure that all families received their orders prior to the the vacation and that's all I have any questions or discussion none superintendent report good evening everyone so uh there's a couple items on there uh that slid through they're really more specific to the high school in Hampshire Regional so I'm just going to skip those uh the the document that we've shared with you previously that has the fiscal problems uh that the forensic work is addressing was updated and shared um the central office budget was presented um on Tuesday the 17th 17th thank you um so that uh we could um bring some people together we invited uh representative stakeholders from various communities uh budget subcommittees um finance committee select board Etc and there was a a good showing of uh of stakeholders at the meeting uh we also had Michael uh fet and uh Amy Drake attend and present the work that they've been doing which kind of dub tailed into the presentation and um really reinforced the uh the central office team's efficacy and the work that that we are doing to move us forward um uh on 1219 uh Dawn and I met with the Auditors and had a really candid conversation about the upcoming audit which of course is a a late audit of our um 23 and uh I I Dawn is on her way so I wanted to leave uh any questions specifically that she might be able to answer until she gets here uh probably one of the bigger pieces for me is the finalization of my narrative uh an update for the school committee for my evaluation uh that was shared last Friday um in addition there was uh stakeholder surveys sent out to all the community uh parents families Guardians teachers and principles uh I plan this Friday to send out some uh secondary uh um surveys to central Office Team and uh and the uh staff in the central office I'm looking for feedback I'm looking for input I I pride myself on being a reflective practitioner and I truly want to address the needs that are are being communicated and make sure that we're documenting the feedback the input the good and the bad as Don always says The Good the Bad and the Ugly uh so that um we are able to do what we need to do to move forward positively questions discussion none okay uh chair's report um fle just touched on it but I forwarded it off to everybody the links for the superintendent evaluation um just a reminder that we as a committee have to complete our evaluation as a group and then send it off to be included with everything else um I'll uh go back and the uh the upcoming deadline that we have to abide by or that we should try for and share that other than that I think it's just business is normal any questions on that part when did you send that out today hour and a half ago I was on vacation last Friday when it came up yeah no I think I got it I pushed it out in a link oh everybody there there was yeah there was a Southampton school committee link so I sent it out to everyone I me I already sent mine in so no I don't mean that as anything other than just like she's just on it it's a star she had a lot of negative things to say so she was quick wow Hampshire Regional school committee update uh so a couple things we got a very very very preliminary look at the budget and uh we're going to see some increases in the salary line which we expected those are contractual increases we're seeing an increase in our transportation line due to some specific needs that incoming students have and we're seeing an increase in our out of District placements due to specific needs from students coming in um but we are hoping that um some of the new revenue revenue that has been either identified or applied for in terms of extraordinary relief for special ed costs and circuit breaker and some other you know possibilities with grants that we'll see an increase on the revenue that will hopefully you know kind of counterbalance some of those increases um we talked a lot at our last meeting about the cell phones policy and so the working group at the high school uh which consists of teachers students staff um Administration have concluded that they will continue using the Yonder pouches for the rest of the year um with the goal eventually to get to a point of of uh what we call off and away so changing the culture of the school so that we don't have to have mandatory Yonder pouches and incur that expense but that the culture reflects this desire to have students have their cell phones off and away all day long um so the teachers are 100% for this or like 90 99% for this um parents are about split on it um students publicly say they hate it privately those say you know it's actually I'm doing better in class and I have less to worry about during the day um so that's kind of what we're hearing Peter do we want to talk about Handle With Care at this point or because we spent a lot of time in our meeting with that we're going to have that we're going to talk about that okay and that's part of the presentation then never mind so we will do what we did at our meeting here excellent okay that's it questions can I ask about the under pouch thing um so when this year's seniors graduate do they turn their pouches in yes okay so it's kind of like a revolving yes but if you know if they disappear or you know so we're looking it maybe a $4 to $5,000 a year if we continue it so the initial investment was about 25,000 okay um V I don't know if you want to say anything about the competency determination and what we're doing for our seniors that was one of the things that was in the report that I didn't talk about just because it was specific to the high school but because the um ballot question removed mcass as the cons determination for graduation uh the state has uh shifted if you will the uh the responsibility to the to the local and so what we're looking at is our graduation requirements of course are still in force but what we're doing is we're collaborating with uh the counseling office the principal and my office to uh generate a draft of the compeny determination we're going to look at coursework that students have accomplished and and completed uh and we haven't gotten into the the meat and potatoes conversation yet but what we intend to is bring that uh proposal to the school committee uh Hampshire Regional for approval in February uh just so you know we're we're also collaborating with our peers outside of the districts and we're I'm on a list serve of superintendent and we are sharing our proposals so we can kind of look at what everybody's doing and there'll be some consistency across uh the state with respect to what is happen happening locally so we there's a just a few a couple of seniors that this affects who have not yet passed all of mcass and so it's just affecting a couple but we're you know working through that um are the mcast still being given they're just not a requirement for graduation right the mcast is a requirement from the state for us to administer y however it no longer is able to be considered the compens determination for graduation okay so they're still asking us to to give it it's mandated that we do it's going to be part of accountability and how we are judged as a district and as schools however it cannot be used to uh fulfill comp termination okay great that's all I have good uh PTO PTO has not met we meet next week school council school council has not met since our last meeting but the next meeting is Tuesday the 14th it's going to go fast collaboration for educational services update next meeting is the January 29th okay select board update we're working on the budget which brings us to the budget and finance team update Don 90 seconds give us the highlights okay we we do have copies of the preliminary budget that was passed out along withs and uh Margaret mentioned that at the high school we looked at a preliminary draft um it's I'm not even going to call it it's really not a preliminary draft what we had done is looked at the highest cost um line codes the highest um line codes in the budget and then did a review of those transportation is a big one sped is a really big driver and we have I mean I have what was distributed to the Hampshire Regional um school committee and if you'd like that um I to break down to what the allocations would be to the individual no I think this is what I would say in the 90 seconds allotted I would say that we have um an increase right now without any revenues applied of a million dollar the reason I bring it up here is because is because um s Hampton gets about 55% of that allocation so um that's why I'm bringing it up it doesn't include revenues it does not include revenues what I'm hearing tonight should be worst case scenario it give or take I think that um that depends on the revenues that might be the worst case on the expenses but I can't say expect any revenues to go negative I'm expecting the revenues may be down from last year okay which would make the assessment up from last year but I would not bet my life on any of any of that yet um that requires um balances in the accounts which we are still working diligently toward um there is there are some things and John maybe we would get together offline because I I talked with Scott today and he told me that he wasn't here when the budget was developed last year um that you actually were primarily okay the two of you were responsible so the one thing that I have a concern about that I've looked at that I'm not I cannot determine without talking with you is where certain Transportation costs are budgeted like out of District transportation did you budget for those in the municipality or for for Norris for Norris it's it's outside the school budget the town pays it directly out of the general fund oh okay so it wouldn't go either in the school budget or the municipal it's in the municipal budget line item that's a separate line item I'll tell you our books show that we only paid 34 of four qu to Smith vulk as an example there's still 400,000 sitting there that nobody ever gave us an invoice for okay and it's funny you should bring that up that got paid somewhere I don't know I don't know about that um I actually called today to speak to Scott and to speak to Bradley about that so what happened last year is there was an agreement as I understand it between Mickey you know the former business manager and each of the Town administrators of the five towns that the central office would no longer be receiving the invoices for Smith vocational tuition or this the transportation that those would go directly to the town and that they would paid be paid for directly from the town under chapter 74 Transportation or the both the tuition and the transportation tuition went through central office because in the past Rachel would send it to me I'd have to sign it as chair of Norris yes to pay that bill and that's how it was in the past and then he changed the procedure and so that's why I called Scott and I called Bradley and I said we need to identify if the bills for the Smith tuition have been paid um because we don't have any of those invoices okay so that's number one number two is the transportation we had no Transportation invoices they were sent directly to South Southampton I talked with Bradley who said oh yes I have been receiving those but since we never paid them in the past I didn't pay them so we have um uh let's see January March April May June from last fiscal year that will need to be paid and those will have to be put on the warrant as prior year bills and then um starting in July of this year he's going to catch up on those and I spoke to Scott He said never actually had a communication with prior business off manager about that and so I'm not sure how that was left but that's how it's operating in every every town so far I'm fine if there's time next week and maybe even get Scott or Bradley involved with it okay so those those are the those two items I'm glad to hear about the the out of District transportation because I hadn't seen that anywhere on a budget and it's supposed to be about 111,000 this year and 115 next year so sounds like that's covered yeah out of the North budget mhm then the other thing is the benefits um my my understanding is that um we've gotten some word that those would be double digit the health plan the the Hampshire County yeah that that might be a double- digit increase although when I spoke with Scott today he said that they had heard that it would be 8% like as it was last year so they haven't settled on it yet at the county level um but we have factored into the Hampshire Regional budget 11% I just wanted to mention that CU it could come down we don't know um and we're making um incremental progress on on all other kinds of things if anybody had any specific questions regarding any of the presentations or anything else I'd be glad to address those but um I think that the document that Dylan is reading y um that um running narrative the running narrative the running narrative that hasn't been updated uh since the holidays and such but um we continue to make progress and and the the one notable thing on there that isn't on there is that mtrs is it continues to inch forward the mass teachers retirement Association reconciliations we are almost caught up in every town so that's really positive news the other positive news um is that the central office itself um the training that's going on there and the encouragement to um analyze work and and and work as as analysts as opposed to data entry clerks um is moving forward the people who are working on things like the fact that they're being challenged and asked to do more um in in analysis and that sort of thing so I think that's part of the issue when somebody was given something and they were just told to put it in it there wasn't a lot of thought there wasn't there weren't connections being made to other things and I'm trying to encourage that and I think that's going pretty well so okay the the question I have and I don't know if you have an answer yet but there we got an email late today and there was a phone call afterwards are did we get an extension on our February 1st deadline or we don't know yet he based on based on based on the conversation we had he understands that February 1 is not a realistic date he made reference to the fact that in the past it's been May it's been June unacceptable if that were to happen they would go to the 112th allotment um Dawn and I subsequently have made some phone calls to to bring more resources to bear from the um Mars which is the mass Association of Regional Schools um so we had a conversation with Dr Henman H hemon today uh we're going to meet with him via Zoom so we're again going to try and bring more resources to Bear uh to bring capacity to address the issues that we have I know it's it's a moving Target but like right now if you had to pick a date in the future when this would be done or ready to be submitted are we talking talking the year end reports yeah not February 1st but is it March 1st is it April well I think um I would say don't record this but that's too late too late um I would say that uh the we are targeting getting the municipal end of year reports so for the three municipals done first and I would say that there's a chance that we could make March 1st okay um it's a moving it's a moving Target yeah okay okay when are we going to be able to start working on our pres School 26 budget we are working on them now we are working on them now Alisa and I have to get together um I was out sick and then she was out sick but we we have in the central office been working on all of the aspects of your budgets that are are that need central office input the education the transportation the bus transportation contract um is 3 years with two optional renewal years and it's up I mean the three years ends this this um year and so veto and I are meeting with the with Durham Transportation on Tuesday Monday or Tuesday of this following of this coming up week and um going to talk with them about any potential reductions in in the fees that they have charged um it's a 4% increase from where we are this year uh and um that's one thing the other thing I don't know if anybody's ever seen the contract um have you seen that John yeah we we we got it last year when we had an issue okay so the way it's allocated to the schools is very confusing and we're asking them to clarify a number of things so I don't know if that will impact the the allocations to individual schools but we have to get things a little a little clearer um it's very confusing the way it is and and I can't say for sure if if everybody is being assessed appropriately so I I trying to get down to the bottom line of everything so that I understand it and feel confident saying yeah you've got the right charge I don't I can't say that right now but we're meeting to to to do that so that's a big expense um all of the settled contracts um have been factored in and uh for Hampshire Regional the salaries went up about 300,000 and if the budget had been done differently it it would be going up 500,000 meaning there were a couple of extra 100,000 in the budget in this year um primarily because the um principal had reduced two positions but it never got reflected in the in the budget and so it it's not that there was extra money in there the other thing I can say is it's it could have been an affirmative decision on the behalf of the business administrator to leave that in there because it was a contract negotiation that hadn't been settled yet so I don't know but um if we take you know because that was that extra 200 it is making the increase a little bit less this year um so well potentially that money is available to help with any additional forensic that needs to happen because the community commities proportionately have already paid that potentially so when we get to the when we get to actually putting down balances y then we'll know um if there if there is money left and um I think as Margaret had said there there circuit breaker there are other things that may offset some of the increase in sped costs for next year okay okay anything else okay thank you so much than you thank you you went over but it's okay next under new business Chief [Music] illingsworth good evening my name's Ian illingworth in case I've never met you before I'm police chief this is officer Dan Hurley um he is our selected school resource officer we consider him a school liaison because we don't have a school resource officer dedicated to the school so he's our liaison for the town and I just wanted to take this opportunity to just introduce myself as well as Dan see if you had any questions about our um our roles when it plays with the school we have a very good working relationship with Lisa and um one of the things I also wanted to describe to you is contractually I have the authority and with proper discretion to choose to handpick a schooly aison officer that supersedes contracts the law allows us allows the Chiefs to do that and I selected um Dan for specific reasons uh Dan's military veteran he's been in um uh very hostile areas deployed and so that provides him with a very strong sense of security in particular with institutions um I also selected him because he was a former firefighter he also an EMT and he works well with the fire department he's a liaison to the fire department and currently with school responses fire and police are integrated with the school responses now and we're in that process of integrating fire and again Dan is the perfect uh liaison for that and Dan likes kids so um that's that's obviously very important but before I go any further I just Dan I don't want to speak too much about Dan I'll let him give you a little bit of his resume and then one of the things we did want to discuss before uh you know we leave is the Handle With Care Program we just wanted to bring it to your attention um I believe it went to the school the Hampshire Regional school committee so I I don't know the result results of that um so maybe if you could Enlighten us on how it went Margaret that would be great um but in the meantime here's uh here's Dan evening everybody um I've met some of you before some of you I don't know my name's Dan Hurley officer here uh in Southampton for the past five years both part-time and full-time um I was a student at Norris from 96 to 2002 uh was a long time ago um and I graduated from Hampshire Regional uh I've had my EMT license since 2010 uh worked for the fire department next door for uh about 10 years I've been an army medic for about 10 years two tours overseas to combat locations um I still currently uh am serving in the reserves out of West Harford um I've had the opportunity to work with principal pluta quite a bit already doing some training for the teachers lockdown drills uh discussing going forward things that we might want to change things we definitely to keep the same uh our prior uh School the aison Scott go is over in East stampton now I maintain a really good relationship with him we're really good friends anytime I have questions I call him he answers me right away um I see him probably once a week and uh that's I'm terrible up talking about myself so that's it about me some of the stuff we've done already is uh responsive active threats and all of the teachers were present for that presentation I got really good feedback from it uh I believe it went really well uh we've started doing a little bit of stuff with the behavioral threat assessments which is coming down from the FBI and Secret Service that's kind of like a uh getting ahead of issues before they start some of these things are problems either at home or emotional distress where we can kind of get in there uh get the student or the family help before it ends up becoming an issue further down the road uh we're kind of like at the beginning of that process so it's very important for us to identify that stuff as soon as possible and uh that's about it about me any questions from anybody thank you for your service thank you appreciate thank you for your support uh and then go ahead sure uh so we were brought made aware of the Handle With Care Program and then it got brought to Hampshire Regional we went up there for their presentation did is any feedback on how the meeting went with them um why don't you talk about it first and say what it what it is cuz I think lot of people don't even know what it is and then that that gives me some context to talk about what happened at our meeting sure so we were approached by uh April from the Children's Advocacy Center of Hampshire County U about this program that's it's very it's a very light lift for the school but it's it's very very positive for students basically we would set up a system that if uh First Responders police firefighters EMTs uh make contact with a student stent outside of school uh whether that's something that happened with their family or at their house if their house caught fire a relative got transported to the hospital or relative had you know dealings with police any sort of thing like that we could identify that the student is that the child is a student in the Hampshire Regional School System and the we'd be able to give the school a notification with the child's name Age and what school they go to and that is the only information they would receive other than the actual Handle With Care notification just so the students principal and teachers would know that something happened the student may not be acting the way they usually do they may not be performing up to what they usually do and there is probably a reason why we don't tell them the reason why but it just gives them kind of a heads up so they don't get disciplined or punished for that um either they're acting out or saying inappropriate things or just not um answering appropriately acting appropriately can I expand on that a little bit absolutely uh part of that program which is important is that um there would be some form of professional development with the staff um and Handle With Care they all they the staff has sent is hwc that acronym Handle With Care and essentially what it does is it just lets the staff know that you know the child might be a little off perhaps because a police whatever presence that could have been traumatic in his in in that child's life it's crucial that that is the only information that's passed on and no other questions are asked of the child it's just so the staff is aware that if for some reason a child is not behaving in the typical manner there might have been a reason why and this could give them an indication please handle this child with care because something's going on how would you envision the communication going do an email system okay so an email from from our our staff so let's say let's just say for example there was a disturbance at a household and um police presence were there they wouldn't get any information that there was a disturbance none of that information the evening supervisor or shift OIC the officer in charge would send an email to designated staff with child's name and um hwc Handle With Care and that is it so we also we we did bring some just copies of a very brief description what we can hand out but um we um we just wanted to let this let you think about this you know I'm I'm certainly an advocate for it but I'm outside the school system so this is something that is going to have to be so in essence it could be we could designate you know that communication going to the building principal and probably the superintendent I don't think it's a school committee decision that's what I was just going to say well my so when I was approached by the police chief to consider this um it was under the disguise would the school committee be all right if we implemented this at Norris because I think there was potential there might have been a different take at Hampshire Regional so um do you want to weigh in yeah absolutely so I I agree wholeheartedly um about the efficacy of of the program how it's working uh principal um principal hotz and myself attended a presentation up at uh GCC and it really dub tals nicely with the trauma informed care and the work that we're doing with uh social emotional learning of students in the buildings um I initially uh reached out to our attorney and asked her uh for a guidance on the process because there was anou that is um going to be generated that would have the the five towns uh police and the the superintendent signatures so I asked her does the school committee need to approve and be a part of the uhou and she said no but what said was what needs to happen is communication and collaboration around how this program is um is outlined and how it works so when we talk about notification uh the the the thought that I have is the QR code that is being generating that generating the notifications would go to myself and the assistant superintendent we would then communicate with the appropriate principal who would then communicate appropriately with the staff who has been trained and we've already talked about uh April and Cara from um from the Child Advocacy Center uh coming and doing those presentations at faculty meetings so we were modeling our participation on those towns that are already participating one of the strongest participants is belter toown and uh the chief there in belter toown did a really great job with his presentation on how it works and how we keep confidentiality but also bring compassion to bear in the in the the instructional space to make sure that people are aware of the need to Handle With Care not why and so there's uh maybe if a student starts acting out it's hey veto let's get you down to this the adjustment counselor hey veto let's get you down to the vi vice principal so you can have a conversation so so it's not a um a huge reaction but it's a response to a student that might be in need yeah we had something similar to this at the high school I taught at in California a school of 3500 kids huge school and we had a assistant counselor whose only job was to notify teachers if a kid was having a tough time we got no information and we didn't even use an acronym I think it was just like hey what you know heads up kind of thing and so the way it might work in the classroom is I get that notification we have an exam that day and so I quietly arranged with that child that we are not you are not taking this exam today because something happened and you know and I never knew what it was that happened unless they chose to tell me and sometimes they did but you know it was it was so helpful as a teacher to be able to do this right right and in this case the staff uh even you know if we were to use that system that you described which I think is a great system they wouldn't even you wouldn't even know what it's for all it is is is simply Handle With Care so it's not like Handle With Care PS hey we just locked up somebody for domestic violence in that house that's not going to happen we do not do that um that's in fact that's against the law for us to do um but uh so this is simply and I can tell you through my experience going to households where there has been some form of traumatic event sometimes multiple times um with police presence and you want to be able to give a you know some sort of indication to the staff of a school of noris Alisa in particular hey stuff's going on at this person's home so that's not what we say with this but you you want to let the person know that you want to let the school know that this child you know be aware that there's there might be something going on or there something did happen could be it could be their their parent tripped and broke their leg and the ambulance was there that's Handle With Care M it could be anything it's not just disturbances it's not just police presence it could be a fire anything that's traumatic and you know when you're at when you're you know even if you're in high school and there's lights whether they're red lights or blue lights at your house it's it's going to have an impact on you so we just want to make sure that uh if we can the child gets as much um uh counseling if needed or at least if it's if it's not counseling But the teacher knows if he's it was received very well by the high school school committee there was um some concern about privacy and what we we heard so that the representatives from the Child Advocacy Center were there and they were very um firm about the fact that no other information is given and that this program has been nothing but successful there's been no complaints in any of the jurisdictions in Massachusetts where it's been implemented and it's been going on in Virginia since the 90s I'm not sure they probably communicated by phone then but you know that's it's been going on and I think it's probably going to um spread to more communities and and just to close the loop with theou I will be um drafting it but um sending it to attorney roach for for her guidance on the language in it all right so from your your report back to the committee is you're everything you know right now you're moving forward everything I know right now is is that the next step would be that follow-up conversation with attorney roach with the uh with theou um that's going to reflect the the chiefs of the various departments with which we work and um then we would have to go through the training and and proceed yes okay questions coule questions sure I think it's a great program I fully support it I'm just curious is there a a threshold or a determination that's made when this is sent is it every single time there's contact with the first responder that that's the intent yes okay um my only concern I guess my only thought around that and again this is not in negative on this would be in the sense of um two scenarios I can think of one of them from my personal which was when my 2-year-old got a hold of my wife's cell phone and dialed 911 and the you know and she said no I you know I couldn't hang ups but the police responded sure and um you know there was the threshold that's the threshold something that would that's that's what I was asking so maybe if we house and kick the door down 911 happen all the time that we don't consider that traumatic and the second side of that is I'm sure there's houses where there is regular first responder responses not because of not because of a negative impact let's say you have an elderly family member who is gets transported to the hospital on somewhat of a regular basis um and the communication threshold around that concern being is that if the school is getting a notification every two weeks that there is a you know hwc a notification every two weeks with no additional information is there going to be either an over response or a a a stigmatization of that child out of concern that there is some something horrific thing going on when in fact it's Grandma with COPD need to go to the hospital for you know no no I think that's a valid a valid point and I you know I think we use discretion you know if there's a constant response and we don't see any impact then then no we wouldn't make that you know okay that's what cous so there's a discretionary part there there's discretion yes we it's it's all about trauma right and and Trauma is based on the individual as we know so you know we don't want to we don't want to make that definition of what's traumatic and what's not but if there's regular police presence because you know like you said Somebody's sick and they're going to the hospital commonly you know after the couple times I'm sure that presence of the ambulance is not going to have the same effect as as the first time right okay those are good points and I think it might follow up to that is with is there any you know as someone who's spent you know many many years working in the mental health delivery system um PD or around you know trauma informed approaches and and and that kind of thing cuz cuz while I completely appreciate you have a child who comes in with with Handle With Care warning and kind of giving extra room and support for that um you know those are the only the only time we would see those is when there's been been a first responder response you could have a child Who's acting out in class who there is no first responder response but has experienced trauma in the household and I'm just curious is how what is the district and the School done with with trauma informed training and Trauma informed approaches in PD we've had some with our special ed Department especially um and I can't think of I can't think of specifically but I know I know that we have whether it's a one hour or a twoh hour thing but not like a full day of you know we haven't focused on it but we've we've touched upon it in order to inform Educators how to respond with students in your classroom who might have trauma come from a trauma background sort of thing and in my experience in West Springfield specifically uh especially postco where we saw um more serious spikes if you will in in uh crisis responses at schools um hos uh ambulances coming to school because a kid is in crisis we did some really structured um PD over the course of years uh to make sure that we were meeting the needs of the teachers so that they could meet the needs of the students and it wasn't just um isolated to uh special services it was um across the board um you know in in in the time I've been here I haven't seen the level of need that I saw there so I can imagine that it would be more of a targeted kind of a laser approach to that professional development um and with a focus on other things but you know we we need to look at the data and and see what's going on with respect to the trauma or the um the the needs that our students are are I feel like conveying Amy talked a lot about that when she did her did interview talking about a lot of trauma response care and stuff like that and just to be clear where Amy was coming from at lpvec right she was a program in right facility so she took a lot of students that were suffering from trauma and had some signicant but she probably has good Insight on like what would be something that we could work yes I'm happy to collaborate our resources too so if you if you ever want to talk about that very good thank you so much thank you Chief we appreciate your support of this program too you got it um any other questions that you want to just ask relative to our our roles just before we go you so was he he's not in a school like at any time so if there was an incident that requires police that's not an emergency he would go he would be the the officer chief the lays on is just within Southampton or would it it's just Southampton it is unless we have some collaborative agreement with with Westampton that's that with the regional um but as of right now no and that's why we don't consider him a school resource officer he's fully trained as a school resource officer um however we these are Lea he only deals there was a time maybe three years ago where there were budgeted dollars allocated yeah and then there was they had a part-time SRO up there and it was one of our office before Co yeah yeah actually I follow up on that um there was some discussion at one point about restarting a dare program is dare a program that is still actually used by it is still used it is um you know it is it's not the Dare that that we were it's it's more about just making good decisions okay it's not it's not based solely on drugs about making good decisions that that's the premise of it um that is that that is available he is not a d certified officer but yeah but that is something that you know if if we could discuss if that's something that you ever wanted to come back well I I my personal take is I I prefer having you know when for positive reasons you know uniformed officers without utility belts in the schools from time to time I think is does a lot of positive and Goodwill and I don't know what the certification cost for the de is is Scott had it right Scott had it I yes he did I know the annual cost was $3,000 after cation yeah that was his his wages and and and the supplies you and I I think the purpose of of this program matches up perfectly to the opad settlement funds that for 2 years we have been unable to spend and we get $36,000 a year so um I think whatever the initial training cost is that might be something we can get through the select board is there a better program that you know of or would not that I specifically know but perhaps you know D you might know of through your experience or or Alisa through your experience in in the in the field well the the other thing j would do you remember the Dare like Dylan and I do as our kid childhood as my DARE officer told me not to smoke and then went outside and smoked yes I remember we might want to get a refresher on what the current program looks like so that's what I'm asking is obviously it's not the same like you said it's Mak still dare but it's not drug abuse resistance education it's something about um proper decision making right I just didn't know if as someone who has seen that program currently if you had feelings on there maybe that's not the best fit maybe there's a better program that's all I'm saying one good thing I think like uh John elaborated on is having a a a good presence right you have you don't you're not going to go in there with looking like a soldier right that you you can't that anymore actually so what's important though is that connection with students may open up conversation about potential threats right and that's that's why that's why I think it's important to have some form of connection between law enforcement and the school I yeah I can actually speak to that so my child was at Norris and got to meet officer go and then went to the high school and at one point needed to talk to an officer and that relationship had already been established and it was just so much easier for that conversation to happen right and you know as we all know with social media sometimes social media can influence um people of all ages right but social media sometimes doesn't have the best uh depiction of police officers for younger people and you don't want your children to think that all police officers might be what they're seeing on social media you want them to see somebody like Dan who's got a smile on his face and likes kids and speaking of social media in Broad Strokes do you have any concerns about the current security level at the North school no thank you no no so is that our security upgrades that yeah I think we're done with that list but um no um we've been working we work so well with only and our staff um and we do it so often it's every time we go it's it's a it's about f if you have a training session and you don't find something that's a failed training session as far as I'm concerned and I don't mean something significant every time we have a training session whether it's police related or with the school you find little minutia and you just picking up on these little minutia every time it's just making you more and more secure so nothing significant at all you might find for instance a you you rattle a door and you realize oh these doors are sticking we can't get our key in the door right well let's fix that stuff like that and the debrief is almost as important as the act it absolutely is it absolutely is you know and there's another piece that we've used in the past and I say we I'm sorry in in West Springfield that we did it was inter agency and it was tabletops so if there's ever any an appetite for you to do a tabletop I'm glad to be a part we are actually in the process of developing one uh Alisa and and Dan Dan's actually making one we're going to have a tabletop exercise by the end of the year I believe fantastic great I don't know what that is but great I said I don't know what that is but great oh oh it's a scenario based uh activity where agencies come together and look at what would you do if what's your first step who do you communicate with how do we Evacuate the students etc etc and it's it's designed to identify problems problems or things that you haven't thought of right right awesome thank you thank you thank last call everybody good yeah thank you you there's any you guys think of my emails on the town website uh will tell you I'll get back to you right away uh whenever you email me so have a wonderful evening military hey any any other business that can't wait until our next regularly scheduled meeting I have one for Kim so our next regular meeting is February 12th I will be in Dallas it there's a high likelihood that Dylan will not be able to attend Kim is the senior member of the committee so she'll be responsible for setting the agenda with Lisa and Vito and then sharing the meeting just a girls meeting huh that's going to be nice it's going to have an inclement weather Zoom link too so if I see a snowflake it better be linked up to that Zoom meeting all right well we can make it this this this senior this senior citizen member doesn't drive in snow I didn't say citizen no I 100% calling myself that and I am not listen it could be like a little proud it John I don't I thought of something yes um and that is we have dat set for the Regional School preliminary hearings and final hearings but um I needed to get in contact with with s with the finance committee finance committee coordin won't the school committee finance committee for the preliminary for pamp the the preliminary for the town or the preliminary for Norris for Norris so that that I would do that as this committee this committee would me typically and we're happy to do it earli but typically that that preliminary happens in our regular March meeting yes and then one week later we post for the public okay meeting that's what doing I just didn't know what the history was so so we plan on the first on your March meeting yes um would be the would be the preliminary yep and then what I'll what I'll do yes said I'm on the finance committee too so for that meeting I'll try and get the finance committee to attend okay and we'll do a dual meeting for that purpose of that subject so that we can get done in one meeting okay all right thank you yep um security upgrades update uh just I know we're in the final throws of that but uh have we done the PD have we no not not the PD but we are online meaning the people that need to have access have access um with the Camas and then the security um upgrade we have our our passcodes to disarm and arm the alarm and we're still continuing to work with our school Community stakeholders about um when they need access and and when they don't so we're continuing that conversation and we're not ready for it to go live yet you have a date that you anticipate you be ready to go live um February 1st March 1st April 1st just ballpark maybe February 1st okay so all right so we can leave it on maybe in the February meeting you'll say it's all set we can strike it from the agenda okay by stakeholders do you mean the police offic I mean the teachers teers teachers and staff teachers and staff yeah sorry if I misspoke okay um if you're giving it out to the whole Community you know somebody did that with uh the codes on how to close the school for a snow day already uh anything else under ongoing business no okay um we have to read we have to uh State all the names for the record to go in executive session so if one by one if you guys could give Kim your name and relationship to what we're going to V in for Erica Mel e r i k a m i c a a Grade Three teacher at Norris thank you El Elizabeth colie grade to if you need that teacher thank you I'm Neil NE L Alper a l p r I'm a field representative with the Mt perfect so at this point uh the chair will make a motion under mgl chapter 38 21A subsection 3 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation if an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining or litigation position of the public body and the chair so declares I I'm inviting the uh superintendent the building principal legal counsel for the committee as well as the uh two faculty members already identified and the field representative into executive session we will we do anticipate returning to open session for a vote for a potential vote is there a second to my motion second it seconded by Jen roll call Jen Johnson I say I Lumber ey shot ey arson I bye Don we're in executive session at 656 John can you close the yesterday okay here we go um the time is 817 we are back in formal session from executive session uh a vote was taken it'll now be taken in public session I move that we approve the mo MOA as discussed and authorized the chair to sign on behalf of the committee second there a motion made and seconded no discussion all in favor I I opposed nay abstaining none motion passes 4 to one there being no other business before the body move chair we'll move to a journ at 8:18 p.m. thank you thank you thank you Kimberly Kimberly nice to see you e