hello folks happy April 1st right april Fool's Day april fools anyone get any pranks no thank goodness that's too bad yeah the night's still young all right guys we're here with the finance committee tonight and um we're working out our budget up next well let's see
who's here tonight paul Connelly karen De Mayo is not robert Moroch i say it right close enough close enough he is here dave Meth is not here dr richard Zowski hey he's here sherry Nolan our associate member is here and Alita Di
Maria is on her way and Chini for the most part is here so all right let's go first up we have a request for reserve fund transfer and it's um let me just
sell this first line okay okay should be here for six it's from the maintenance department we talked about the building over there at the um boat launch boat launch $15,000
to replace their heat pump AC unit and after we talked last week we felt it was in best interest to get that done now and get the process going so they did come in for reserve fund transfer of $15,000 any questions
i need a motion make a motion made the motion the doctor seconded it all those in favor show I sharing I Robert thank you all right we have we have minutes
no other minutes y so many of them all right so the minutes are for September 5th and we will go back to see who the other was in here um so I have to abstain you have to stand
just to be safe yeah and I was absent all right so anyone has any questions about the minutes nobody all right i need a motion the doctor made the motion i need a second second he seconded all those in favor
joe i shar robert paul conley state Roberts okay is done and then next on our stuff is just basically paperwork that we went over some questions uh John needs to find out a number
of buildings and grounds will keep up to discuss that Dr y um temple farm day to 18 the math was wrong in the
budget so you told me to make a note that Yep awesome so I did okay thank you uh the assessors I heard back from nobody as far as how they're going to backfill that and what dollars they need in the line item um they are select board is meeting Monday night to roll
the budget so I believe they will deal with it then um building in EMS packet that moves to let's see yellow third party quality assurance
from EMS out to out training and contracts and agreements the quality assurance is required by the state we change companies so would be per year so yes that served um building
inspector so we did look there is some monies in there that I think can go back to the general fund is that correct Laura no no educate me Laura it has to stay at the
revolving account until the account right but I thought when I hit a certain threshold it still stays yeah that threshold that's um like a $60,000 threshold yes that's just how much they
can spend out of that account in with that one fiscal year gotcha okay okay right so had they gone on a spending spree yeah right and I don't think they realize they can spend it i mean I know they use it to cover inspections at the
inspector that's what that's about all that comes out of that yep that's all that So that'll just sit there so unless we go back to town meeting and adjust that revolving account which not this year but something they may want to look at doing even if they can spend it within themselves in their department versus coming for us for more
monies you know what I mean so all right thank you and the police department school expense um that was a pretty interesting conversation so the folks that go to the academy
comes out of there that's where it comes out okay um if it's a little high as we all know things have changed so it's 6,000 cadet to go through the academy
it's probably another four to six thousand for housing and everything else depending on where they go so it's about 12,000 a person roughly y he's saying there's definitely one going for next year July yep and possibly two or three depending
on You also have an expense for [Music] Yep that's all part of that 24 the six and six all part of that 12 per person because basically they out them the first time around yeah with the clothing y and then they fall into the other bracket we'll look at that number later
when we go through and see what that number really is although I'm sure we could tweak it a little bit didn't get the answer I wanted with that but that's okay all right so that's the PD um the town reports and the budget
reports lori said there's 150 left of the budget roughly books the books oh yes that we didn't use yet okay so as far as the time reports go they're gone they had a couple down in the other side they've they've left so unless something got
thrown out they've gone through all of those and the budget books maybe we can scale back 75 or something and go from there for now but that'll be discussion with the selectman later all right so that was all our
notes that I'm aware of now we'd like to go back to our books and we're going to look at capital because we haven't touched capital for anybody we're going to start at the beginning which will be the regular
reflector and I don't know if there's anything there but that's where we're going to start we use our shortcut sheets you gave us right after it excuse me they made a pretty sheet for us so we're going to have to go through the
day yes when are you going to do the other operation soon as we're done with the capital operation okay i just wanted to know where to put that cheat sheet
they have pink and blue at the top and then the other orange and green that where was the the other side oh right there okay well thanks follow the air follow all right that's what that paperwork was
we got quite a bit we did we did supposed to just be a soldier you guys all right so let's go with put that blue on the side because that's not what we'll talk about later operation line items this is all the capital the way you guys
see it the pink no no that's operational okay so the orange right orange is capital everybody page two of two there page one should be one of there's a one page
yeah have a great night yes it was requested all right one of two chief administrator officer would like $700 for furniture so any of the
starred entries there they were items that were on this year's budget um any of the what they were all on this year's budget FY25 and held over for next year but
not not all of them are necessary um in discussion with the chief administrative officer but she had held them over for this one but they're not all necessary so yeah so furniture I don't know that she I don't know if she ever spoke with you about
whether or not she'd like to keep that on there i think we'll find out more about that on Monday okay but I'm not sure okay so everything in the white column is left over from last year no anything with a star so
yeah next to the title way over there were two secrets yeah wow i did not realize we did this technically okay all right so furniture's left over from last year 700 what do you guys think it was there
last year are we keeping it for this year got one eye roll yeah I got no problem okay that's all right i think we can keep it we We apparently said last year and we said yes last year so right
right okay the next one pads there is no star next to it yeah that was new this year that you presented to us and we said "Okay." and wear full pants uh what they're going to do is um because on actually the war pre-election so let me
explain it to you we all sit short version we all so we all sit down there with these big huge books that we have to go through and stuff so what they want to do is they want to update to iPads okay ipad type of thing and uh what it is basically you'll walk in and they'll ask you for your driver's
license you still do not have to have your driver's license to vote you can just say your name but 95% of the people will probably be happy to have your license yes and it scans and it makes everything really clean and what it does is at the end of the election uh when
the election's all over Yeah the girls up in the town clerk's office have to take all the books they manually have to go through and every x off they have to physically do that the iPads they just plug them in it does the whole thing rather so what would normally wonderful
what would normally take two days takes like two hours it's clean it's a very good investment for the town it gives us Yeah more modern and uh so it's it's cheap so we don't sell the information though right no absolutely not
it's just we're just kind of moving forward with technology for that so are we okay with that everyone yes yeah there was a handout and they had a note about that yeah and then they can spend their time doing other more valuable things it's it's it's just very redundant you spend
more time looking at taxes and check no I agree because you're like more likely to make a mistake when you manually scanned it you would actually catch a lot of mistakes during the election street acceptance so what's that yeah yes
yes yep street acceptance painting board it says every year last year was 20,000 this year was 20,000 it looks like this is last year's well 2025s it's asteris correct so they still haven't done what they and they're not asking for another 20 they're just carrying over the 20 we
approved already it looks like no I think they're asking for I think this is new yeah this So this one was on last year it was on last year um she had mentioned leaving it on there feeling that she's going to have many street or that there are streets coming
up yes there are so I think that was her her thought with leaving that in here okay somewhere down the line that is going to end we will have accepted all the streets around the lake we already plow and patch anyway so it was what it was
right okay so computer system new PCs laptops dock station town hall increased standard request we're 10 what's that we're okay with
street we are okay with street and now we're on the PCs laptops which we do every year but it sounds like it's an increased standard so I think it went from I think it went from 10 to 5 15 8200 to 15 oh
is that because of cost or we need an extra one oh I'm sure cost is going through a roof i'm sure it's not made in America so is everyone okay with that yep [Music]
the web page upgrade talked about that we talked about that yeah are we okay with that yes copier spot where's this one going no so this again was left over from last year um
and left on here for discussion so they didn't do it last year they did it was the time the I think it was a slide board yes yes yeah i think it would have been last
year's slide board yeah there was a couple of them to do with the other side of the building okay so I don't think we need another one there i know you guys are looking for one is it this year or next year okay then we can cross this
off what do you think guys you want to cross it off yeah i'm okay with that yeah i'm not proposic accessible standard did they spend it all last year of course they did it said maintenance i won't give you any money into your
house sorry being sarcastic we're on town hall no I'm trying to find it here oh I It would be under That's a great question we did we spent all of it last year so guys we're doing it again i'm sure we have to what exactly
is it i mean we do have to do it but it's upgrades you know whether it be uh ARM or restrooms component ramps oh it does all kinds of stuff parkings in the parking lot yeah we don't want to be accused of not being we're going to get accused go to
the one so I can email them to find out where they spent their money i think it's just a simple fact and put that it is yeah out of 01192 I guess that's
there all comes out on that one replace sprinkler valve 17,000 um they asked for a uh reserve fund transfer halfway through LA this last season they had money in their account so I told them no spend the money in their account to do it and
then we would definitely do a reserve fund transfer they never did it and they spent the money in their account um so we have to do it but they did tell me this year they could actually do it if they needed to if we looked at their
contracts and agreements for town hall maintenance there was plenty of money in here okay so I'd like to look at what that number is buildings and grounds is a sounded like they just
might be extra money in that uh code contraction contracts and agreements 64,000 they spent yeah okay 47,000 was expanded in 2024 and they have 60,000
wow department is 10 more complex it's under buildings and grand yeah it's found complex 52600 contracts and agreements so Laura hypothetically they have the money
in that account right now according to Dan when I talked to him can you tell me what's expended in that account right now here it's showing 21 thou 27,000 as of 220 oh no no that's fine okay all right i
can run up and get it if you want my report no just um Elizabeth could you make a note of that no you're fine no no no it's all good i have it in my hands but Laura can you talk us through it so
if the money is there would he come in for a reserve fund transfer to take it out of that line item or is he not allowed to take it out of that line item it becomes a maintenance activity it would become maintenance activities so maintenance activities
would go in the hole by the 17,000 if it's in there of course if it if it's No absolutely whatever and then they would have to leave that that Oh is that how that works yes okay so we don't transfer it we go into the red yep and then leave that padded money sitting in that other
line item for the end of the year and then we do our year reserve fund transfer whatever that is something something okay all right so then guys I would elect to put a question mark on that because if that money is sitting there now I will
figure out how to go and do that project y and not wait so we're going to say no but make a note of that Elizabeth and I will I will shotgun that
deal oh this is funny so this will do you want to say no or just leave it as question marks until we question mark i'm sorry we'll put it as question mark that's the right thing to do okay um next up replace main power
switch um to be determined can we put a question mark there too yep cuz someone I know found a used switch for $6,000 heard that last meeting yeah so we'll see what we can put together i think it's more involved than that but we got
a few people that know what they're doing okay next up three bay garage to include one bay for SEMA use three bays for somebody uh no good luck with them
so maybe 100 grand yeah um great intent i just think our our numbers are going to be tight this year anyways um so I my personal opinion would be I don't think we're I don't think it's this year
and yeah that sounds low to me alita had a a bigger question was what do we really need and if we're going to put something together put the right thing together right right not hodge podge as we was that the deal where they wanted to put that over on the the old fireman put on the pad and then we were going to
put the tractor in it and then I said something about if you put the tractor you need oil separator because I know in the private sector when I put a garage up I need a lot of things right well I think I think uh that we need to look a little bit in the future that we are definitely need to do we are going to have to replace the highway garage so I
think at that at that point I think that would be a great time to address so if they say well we need a new garage for the highway department we definitely would grab everything you know everybody so let's let's get all your needs and if we're going to build a building let's
build a big building right and not hodge podge because if you look over there now we have So I would rather spend the money to have one big huge cut so it's one air compressor feeds the whole building and all so it's a no that's
that's enough you made my point thank you got that got that their figures are rolling you're saying "You're not going to do any of that for $75,000." No no no it's all good what's happening this year is I think that our maintenance department is in influx and the Yeah the
gentleman that was helping them honest to God just went online and got quotes of stuff like he should but there's no forethought $75 for a rent in 10 isn't what we need i mean I understand it but if we're going to do something let's get all the minds together and do one maybe
four times that right so let's state of Massachusetts i think that's I think that's enough yep that's a number block upgrade $60,000 or 60 it's the I don't think the town's ready for it but that's me no I don't
think they And if you listen to the tapes of what the discussion was honestly it was we a year ago someone decided we had to re key the building and they did that and as my tenure as a selectman my key
fit everything except for the safe right which in the town clerk's office right wherever that was right that's the only thing didn't fit right i can go to any door do anything right they changed the keys and now the selectman's key fits the selectman's office and that's it so that started the ball rolling and then at our meeting on the Saturday they
nicely told us there's a pile of keys in the room over there they don't know where they go um I don't want to spend 60 grand to and I and if we do key the world or card key the world all together i get it but it better be all the buildings which that's a lot of infrastructure that's a
lot of wiring and power all that yes plus the computer system that's going to run it monitoring and I know if the guy What was the excuse so when a Wally park quits quits we can grab their card from them i don't think our turnover is that high in this town period probably not you know and most of the time the police
escort you out anyways right so you have a a way out and you can grab their keys so all right so no on that hey how are you today i'm good wonderful welcome to the excitement all right that's the 60 then we go down
to the 109 the two cruisers are standard option what's that it was log option one for 11,000 that's a change i'm so sorry right so option one for 11,000 was to rekey code the building
make them all one key again but we already did it once so why are we It's all good replace carpet building office which building office um this would be town hall laura how's your carpet carpet in the building office like the
building and offices I guess in the building or specifically the building specifically for the building department do they have a back carpet just replaced in 2017 what's that it was the building
department it was replaced in 2017 so I don't know that that is them right seems like kind of new so do we question mark it to find out which office so we can put eyes on it i think the carpets are fine yeah yes
whatever the next is generator rebuild for 17,000 now that's something I guess and my understanding is it's not the generator we need the electricity that's in the generator okay it's not the motor you know it's the generator portion of the generator
gener right thank and I don't know if it's going bad or it just it tricks it it triggers the years of service and I don't sell maintenance for a living but boy oh boy that's what it felt like changes
I'm fine with that you're fine with that you guys fine with the head of the generator okay it's a yes okay so Laura now we're at the two cruisers 1095 and my understanding is one's a cruiser and one's a truck this
year because the truck uh didn't work out well decided to quit and that's the standard every year it didn't go up I think because we're doing one being a truck and they don't have to outfit the inside with the gear they had as much so is that's a yes
the portable radios seem to be standard the 10,000 Yes computer equipment standard those are program upgrades thank CM double vision computer stand
okay portable ratings right we said yes okay computer equipment standard request 159 we're good six patrol rifles i know in the years past we did a we we we were doing good it was one a year or two a year for a couple years there and then it sounds
like it fell back off again so yeah I thought we did one in the fall but it was a separate buy wasn't it oh for the fall town meeting something i forget i went I thought we bought some last year i went over the whole sheet with him
where he's buying them what he's accessorizing them with and he's at the cheapest point you can go at this point which is I think it was 33 per rifle right that's with optics and light everything totally right and they want to they want to set it up so that each
cruiser has the same one so that the officers aren't trying to figure out what the hell's happening especially in an emergency i would say yes you have to have the same stuff well I don't know if we can afford to do all six the first year um I'd be comfortable doing two two
and two what are your thoughts four and two three and three three and three split the difference three and three three and three so yes for three and three do they have That's a great question there's like a
It's like a used car lot back there but I know some stuff's going away oh who's on hey Mr banish chief Banish is on chief Banish you got a second we could unmute you know he might not be there oh he's on yeah let me uh let me plug my
phone and it's getting ready to die give me one minute okay yes sir okay thank you our biggest question for you is how big is the used car lot behind the building uh there are I want to say like three or four cars out there that
have been surplused those are the ones up the garage yeah and what do you standardly run with how many do you have in your fleet uh right now we have let me see uh my car detective car we've got four line cruisers marked
we've got two unmarked cruisers a detective car uh two SRO cars uh a road job car and a TCO car i think I think that covers it four bikes a boat
yeah understood so they're looking at 13 so there you go right thank you yep no problem and we looked at three rifles this year and three rifles next year was that a question for me no I'm just
That's a statement that's a statement sir thank you um okay rifles replace lockers on floors um I'll be honest with you I'd like to put like four grand in that account so they can go over there and
repair them they could use some some of them tommy Kuckers should be on a front of a magazine that's absolutely perfect it's been polished three times it's gorgeous some young men like Mr bridges actually destroys his that that needs no
in a good way he's got a gear bag that weighs 25 lbs that gets thrown on that floor every time he goes in there and the So once the floor gets beat up everything else starts coming down with it so someone put a 2x10 underneath that floor put the floor back in everything
would be perfect again i know it requires a skill set but I believe in our carpenters that we have but I believe the maintenance guys could fix them up for now i just don't know where we can spend and 80 80 grand on lockers yeah you know I mean
and honest my gut feeling I'd rather see another another officer before I see 180 grand in lockers yeah yeah that's where I would see that um not that we control that but it's just a statement so 4,000
yeah we'll that way we don't hurt their maintenance budget which they have none because that got spent already too and and maybe if somebody's you know I will gladly sit down with maintenance and explain how to fix and then maybe they can just reinforce something instead too so it doesn't happen again
never had anything there sorry replace live scan fingerprint machine my understanding is that is not working at all right they have charcoal and a paper they say and they can do a like a handrint but I think it's time
so is that a yes sounds good to me replace two MDTs what are MDTs mobile data terminal I believe okay thank you yes i believe the ones that are in the car and he said two of them can't even
accept upgrades I believe he said yeah their life cycle yes yeah yeah so that means they're old if they won't take an update who knows all right two defibs boy almost like those have come down in price huh yeah that's what they used to
be each Yeah chief Banish is that correct two defibs for 6982 oops sorry i'll mute them hey there sorry about that there we go okay um I can't confirm that honestly i
don't have Okay in front of me it sounds right but uh that's fine yes and it' be no okay thank you sir stay on so next up is the update policy and procedure so guys just like we're struggling with
town hall apparently yeah it they may have done them yes Laura i was just going to say that is the quote that is the quote 10,000 yeah yeah yeah yeah you're not going to screw with that no no no i meant the uh I was back to the defibs
the defibs that is the quote that is great all right go ahead that's okay that's awesome okay so it's a yes for that and the update policy and procedure is long i guess it's just honestly just long overdue okay um so I think we got
you know sure to complain i don't think we have much of an option there okay thank you Chief Banish no thank you sir fire department remodel bunk rooms
yeah we've been kicking the can a long time it's time get this one done and then we can And honestly he he uh they were champs about it they they Thank you you know and what was that first price 400 right so where we are right 250 like like she said we'd like kick that can
down the road forever it's time to start some of it already in steps because you said they put a couple things in because they got some grants so they were able to you know start it and save money all right so it's a yes for the remodel yes yep
yeah who's writing all this down one of you two okay thank you yeah checking stuff should have asked that an hour ago right elizabeth is there well of course Elizabeth we also have it recorded
well we would think we would think you weren't here earlier no and we haven't got Zoom bombed yet yeah we haven't got Zoom thank goodness all right now remember everyone they're getting their bunks as far as the we're
concerned okay so replace inflatable boat and engine he said that this one is about to go no it's cheap though it is a real issue okay yeah the first thing we're going to get rid of over budget though okay y for sure replace the
remote imaging camera i do believe that's a necessity that's a yes yes yes okay replace four AEDs 12,000
that's in February should piggy back and get a new quote i know get six get a little discount there same thing four for 12 they were at two for six so they're right there yeah it's AED is
just automatic electronic defi i think it's Yeah it's the last thing you see for some people i've seen one yeah I've used they don't know well couple years ago at the Big E got twitched oh no replace two
laptops 6000 true we're good with that so public safety buildings police department floor tile replacement and this looks like it's on the current budget because it start got a star next to it right
that down the road last year oh it was done already it's just late in the year kind of a thing that's good there was a couple we were doing things for a couple years there right there was a three-year floor
program,00 don't have the retors but as of February they haven't spent it right they get care they have some issues well the garage floor has issues there's drainage issues
there they're leading to bigger headaches um I'll put a question mark and I will do some research and find out what that's really about we are meeting next Thursday with the select for it so yeah
when we get to that and they look at us would you say we'll have a question mark there and Elizabeth could you make a note of that thanks she got a big notepad no she sent it to me like the next day oh my gosh it's hard does a great job i appreciate
it uh elevator upgrade that's ongoing from last year they probably haven't done it yet or they are in the midst of doing it i'm not quite sure which that's fire department yep fire department elevator so that's got to stay just weird because I own an
elevator no one was still doing anything upgrade i don't know if they need anything more it's not they do an upgrade last year well it's He's looking She's looking so we So this
year um we put in 12,500 and they spent 12,500 so they did it okay take that out yeah yeah that goes away but they did that let's see animal control room dividers
those are the fiberglass pieces between that yes they don't seem to ask much now they buoys and mornings mornings standard request 2600
yes y replace security cameras standard request 1,200 yes yes they he did turn his budget in with a 5% um minus 5% on his um budget so we we have
that stuff so I assume we're going to go with the 5% cut yes think he took he actually went below he took a DVR out he did a few other things on top of that okay there's no lake Canal Brook oh
Canal Brook Beaver Dam and log removal standard request 6,000 is it a yes yes yes somehow it got onto the newspaper yesterday that the government was doing something where we weren't going to be able to do that
anymore so my phone rang off the hook of course did you guys cut the budget and I'm like you knew no the town government well no somehow the federal government had something to do with our beavers oh really which was
proven time for that fake news fake news of course it was yeah somehow made mass live i think the bever said the beavers couldn't work for us instead of against yes just saying ppw highway standard
projects which is the paving for 50 the construction for 475 improvements which are standard request for 30,800 Are we okay with those three those three yes yeah we always do those
got to keep up with it paving4 million what is the magic number you folks want to send i want to spend 30 i've heard nothing about 14 doing $15 million worth that's kind of all been quiet i want to spend 30 or 40 million i want to look
slower for you i've heard nothing about 40 million so I want to spend 300 exactly yeah but you know I mean it's like so ridiculous because you got people driving around 80 $90,000 vehicles yeah pounding the crap out of
potholes so when are you going to finally face the fact that we got to fix the goddamn roads and the only way you're going to fix the roads is to either do an override put the money up so until then if you don't want to do it that's fine but don't say nobody ever said that we should do it so right if
you want to fix the roads then be ready to do an override did an override to the schools okay and that's fine sorry but we didn't do them we didn't do the override for the schools okay we've absorbed that no no but it does matter okay because we've absorbed that which then makes our numbers tight because we
didn't do the override so our next big thing is the roads in the town all I ever hear about is how terrible our roads are and you're on the finance committee well let me know when you're ready we can fix one of those problems let me know when they're ready to spend yeah the finance committee that 30 or 40
the 30 or 40 million is only 30 or 30 30 or 40 miles so when you're looking at you bite the bullet while you're driving down the road in your $100,000 SUV then let me know but Oh that and that is true right yeah don't say no one ever so you're looking at 20 25 streets yeah
yeah so do we leave it at 4 million for the select board to have that discussion oh absolutely or do you want to put a zero no i I think we should absolutely drop it in the lap of the board of select not them that's their purview i'd be perfectly happy to deal with that but
I just want people to know that the finance committee understands that we are seriously lacking mr banish and Mr mr mulgum's on there listening so those are the only two that are going to hear you that's the same just so they know our YouTube videos are up to seven
people are we seven but we haven't got YouTube that's a lesson that's in this room so that's a little disappointing one of them but that's discussions i haven't listen so 40 what are you thinking have you listened to those they do the historic
it's Yeah i mean four mill you know we're just we're actually throwing money away at a million yeah because it never it never ends we have guys we have guys every day that are out there patching potholes so you're just throwing that
money away because they're going to fall apart so why don't you just It's just like if you had a car that kept breaking down and you keep repairing repairing repairing well just go buy a new car and we're at that point with our roads it's like when somebody finally decides they want to stand up and go look at what we
need to address this issue and so Randy Brown come up with a figure i mean we and we have right weed 34 don't be shocked if you come in and go "Look it's going to cost $50 million over a three four five year project." Well okay we're all big kids it's time to address the
big bow in the room if you don't want to address it we can hey we can keep kicking the can down the road we are i believe Mr baldwin actually did reach out and get numbers right to look at box we seem to be very good at kicking the can down the road but eventually the can drops into the pothole and we can't find
it so you've got to fix the problem so okay i'm So so are we just landing the plane are we looking at Are we looking Of course yeah what am I seeing motion
okay wherever it comes down you're good so what are what are we saying are we saying that we're ready to Are you ready to back a $40 million that's what I'm asking is that what we're saying are we saying we are ready to go to town meeting and say this is what we would
like to do so honestly you probably shouldn't let them vote it down if they want to vote it down it's no different than the internet that is because you put it back in their shoe right that's exactly what I'm saying yeah exactly thank you that that's that and that's I'm the way the way it should be
yeah my sucks so let's I mean I'm ready to vote it is yeah it's Yeah i'm good with that but seriously are we all in agreement cuz this means we are in agree oh I am absolutely but I also look at my taxes and and it's crazy and I'm not
it's all good i do i do too but I I a year from now we're going to be having the same discussion so we still will be well what we what we usually do is this is the number that comes it gets cut to one and a half somewhere like that and then we just keep we get one road repaired so what we should say is are we
ready to to go to town meeting and ask for $5 million a year in bonds for four years or for six years let's be realistic because we're not going to do it all in one year and we have to put it into perspective we don't want to say "Yeah it's 30 or 40 million now it is
this is what it's going to be it's going to be five six million TR dollar tranches over five or six years to get us to a complete overhaul of all of our roads." Right and it's I think they could probably do about three million a year in my head so you're right so three or four million a year times six eight
12 years whatever that number is come up with a plan right got to have a plan thank you i agree Mr mo i'm mute hello so are we close are we nuts
well is that two separate questions yeah I just the first one i know the answer to the second one well I I mean I had talked about this for a couple of years about bonding you know putting forth a bonding article and I think the number was 5 million for
four years right um and we all know it's it's the way that the state funds Chapter 90 does not allow us to even keep pace with what we need to do you know I'll just put it out there that the select board voted just last night to
put forth a bonding article for the MUN fiber that's a big chunk right um and you know that's going to be on you know that should be financed by the subscribers to the service but that's it is a bonding article backed by the you
know the faith and credit of the taxpayers of the town just like at you know a water issue right so it might be a lot to go after it this in this particular year but it it's something we should we we've been discussing it for a couple years Paul's right we have kicked the can down the road quite a bit on
this and It's a discussion we need to have and kind of frame up how you would do it and then you have to present it in such a way that it's you know that people will vote for it because you know you put it in front of the the voters and they're going to you know be the ultimate arbiter of whether it goes
forward or not i just think it may be it may be a lot to put forth that bonding article at the same time as the MUN fiber bonding article in the same year at the same town meeting all right okay well thank you for your
time sir thank you for listening over and out so 40 million yes all right 40 million only because we're going to go back in front of the selectman on Thursday and have the same discussion right and come up with a game plan if there is such one all we have to do is add a zero just add
a zero yes thank you are you up to date Laura yes okay thank you dpw maintenance insulation 20,000 i don't understand what this is
insulation for that um honestly but the way I understood it was B&G says "Hey you could use some insulation and there's probably spots throughout that building and the roof area i'm sure that rise."
Yeah so yeah I got no problem with that so I would do the same thing i would say yes but that's one of the first things we're going to cut because we are going to cut well there you go bay to be determined i wish people could actually get quotes
highway road machinery it's a supervisor truck this did task through um Capcom this is the maintenance this is the driving truck for the number two in the man that runs all around town it is just a four-wheel drive pickup truck 14 years
old is there a yes or a no yes yes yes yes yes yes solid waste standard request trash box 14,000 yep we do that one that seems to be every
year yep send a request concrete pads and blocks i'm going to say no only because the next two items are pricey and we just as you guys all know we not loaded right they're a package deal right those three
noff is by itself i thought you need Okay no no no no trash box was standard every year the concrete pads are going to go under the rolloffs eventually is there a thought process right that's what I was thinking okay um they asked for them last year too makes it a little cleaner when it is
raining and they have to move the boxes um after that is the rolloff truck for 305 that I'm not sure if we're actually going to finance it right away if they if we say yes and they say yes but it's all about emissions and where we're headed as a country so they're trying to
pre-order this so they can still be a non-electric vehicle is what is what it's coming down to any other truck did give us a hiccup yeah it could be it could be one or two years yeah they're not they're not going to they're not going to work so right I
think we need to get ahead of this proven technology y and then the compactor motor that pushes the trash has been rough for many years i still can't believe it's only $80,000 to
replace that it was jammed up for four hours the other day was it yes it was so that they they they need that desperately so yeah that's just something you can't kick it down the road so y So that is that yep yes
so this So cemetery zero turn mower this doesn't have the rest of the cemetery stuff on it we'll go back to their file is it not on here because it's not coming out of the budget
not coming out of general what's that we didn't list it because it's not coming out of the general fund correct yes okay $5,000 for a zero motor that's a toy well um that's a throwaway after one year
there it is it is and they have found So last year's discussion was over digging holes right yes um I will try to be as nice as I can be um in the end we said no last year so
they did find a fund an account that they had for forever I really truly believe um which I think everyone in this room and most of the town thought it was to buy future land for the cemetery um the cemetery commission have felt
different than that and took out 130,000 of it a couple months ago and has decided to start buying stuff so they already own a dump truck and I think there's a backhoe coming next but it is what it is so my feelings if they have
so much money they can buy themselves their zero turn more out of that y I don't know they've already set their precedent well we're funding things and it's unfortunate if you listen well you were at the meetings the whole thing to do with cremation and the money going back to the gentleman that digs the hole
on top of getting paid right has to stop because they're they're let they're patting pockets when they should be putting that money back into either our somewhere else other than the person digging the hole right yeah and then they could afford their own mower
correct so on the mower where are they no no no that's fine and and I'll deal with my tongue later okay library maintenance concrete pad that is CPC funds is Is that confirmed
it is confirmed i don't think she's going after it this year i was able to get her plenty of folks out there to give her quotes and some really crazy great ideas so she's she's uh yeah she's excited okay cool wall-e Park Playscape parts thought it
was 25 i guess it's 35 wow anyways oh didn't we ask them to add uh labor because it was only the parts and we didn't Yeah they don't know um they they basically called the company who
came out and gave us a code for materials and that's where it ended and and they did say they don't need it all this year i know there's a net that has an issue i don't know it does i'd be comfortable if it said 10,000 and and they get the
parts they need but I don't know what is priority one and what is a nice I will bring that back to us on Thursday night okay how's that that sounds good um who originally paid for that plays game but you got the idea cpc cpc yeah okay and
and and honestly a lot of this does Mr peron did a lot of research and he really did feel that that would fall under CPC funds but no one brought an application for it i'm not going to bring an application in front of CPC okay she does um but that's that's where
it kind of it's not falling apart but yeah Jason you know same with the track right the track Jason feels is up for redo and it does qualify in Jason's eyes and Jason does his research so so um just just so I can make a make a point because I know being tape recorded but
my whole problem is is that uh we have all these CP thing CPC things coming before us are all feel-good projects but five years down the line yeah it ends up taking a lot of extra money so I don't care if you want I don't care if you
want to fill these projects but give me the give me the overall cost like this water park nobody can tell me what that's going to cost 5 years down the line no one can tell me what the pickle ball courts are going to cost 5 years down the line so I'm going to let you in on a secret okay if you register your
motor home Mr mg block your ears if you register your motor home right or your camper i did and as if you see our tax bill going through the roof every year right yes we can park at Wall-E Park use that spray park for a shower those bathrooms are open all the time right i
do it in Key West it works out well i can't believe so we can do the same thing here southwood Mass i look good in a roll i'm just telling you now yeah I like it you're going to plug your ears yeah no but that's that's the whole point is Yeah I I agree we get these
projects and then $600,000 pickle ball court a few years down the line we end up spending another several thousand dollar comes out again because the word is where it came from preservation it's not the community
project we just do projects we don't preserve anything we're just going to do projects and not take care of so they need to get their application in place so if they fund a project then they it's on every level and and CPC is a great thing no they it's a preservation
they need to put their application in to upgrade we would love to cut i want people to understand we would love to cut but we get we get kind of stuck because the thing is there and we either have to either maintain it or abandon it you're going to have an employee up there eventually full time and we're going to
have to have Okay so we're not going to talk about diaper rash we did that last time oh yeah we went down that road thank you what was the consensus they should put a CPC CPC after okay that's maybe channel 15 computer
equipment and upgrades 8,000 and they're going to tell you that comes out of the channel 15 funds fund and that that so that's funded right from last year oh it's still for last year or they spent some of it for for this year actually
for FY25 okay so I'm not sure that there's anything additional what they need i think there is an upgrade that might be happening after with that dollar value you think i don't know what that dollar value I guess we just put a question mark and
we'll go back to it for Thursday elizabeth another note it's like you're passing the buck but it comes to me tomorrow morning at 8:35 you know she had it done at 6 am she's just waiting to send [Music]
okay sewer this is the part-timer i think there was someone to come in as a consultant the NPDES permit compliance we've gotten to the point where we have to have someone come in to continue doing and work
can't even imagine what that involves does anybody know what NPTES means um did they tell us or give us anything testing i can't I'm not good at this i'm telling you the acronyms are going to be the death of us never mind i'm trying to
figure out my own language hold on e D E S oh yeah this permit will generally specifically and
acceptable level all level of a pollutant or pollutant perimeter in a discharge area so that's going to help monitor how much stuff's going into our streams i know we measured them all we had John Gddard go out and measure everything so that part's done so this
is the next level it's the uh NPDE estate program authority they got some really nice colors you spend some good money on our on our uh website apparently Doge hasn't
got to Well we're on the sewer department massachusetts uh I got anyway so that's what it is massachusetts is blank for some reason massachusetts surface water discharge
permitting okay yeah mass D and US EPA administrator surface water discharge permits in Massachusetts log in not Randy Brown it says okay so let's see yes yep grinder pump they want to increase the
standard request to 60,000 it's normally I believe 30 and last year they asked for I think last year was less we gave them a bump last year a little bump yep and they're back again yep and the select board Doug is We'll let them Doug has gotten
offline for some reason we'll let them decide what they want to do they um they're they they it's been an active discussion for the last two meetings yeah they've been kicking that around yes we'll let them deal with that so we'll we'll just put a question mark on our end yep yeah water hydrant
replacement standard request 20,000 which comes out of our water retained earnings I'm sure um I think they're like 4,000 a piece that's Last time I took one out was like 2500 yeah so 1987
yep it was a good year mrs chesterini was my teacher anyone go there water tank inspections 6,500 that's a yes we got to keep our water good and water system upgrade is new for
40,000 i believe that's the four or five houses that are past past the station the station that we have to backtrack because Springfield is changing their method of how they deliver water yep so that's a yes yes yep go with that okay
so I need a motion to approve everything we just talked about as our capital request i'll second doctor made the motion paul seconded it all those in favor jo I D
Maria I Sharon I Robert I k okay new operations change request to 2026 does this fall into a small well so it's new operations okay let's we'll just walk through it increase employee volunteer recognition $18
i don't know that's is that a plaque that we're looking We've been looking at that plaque for a few years this could be it i hear Paul's retiring got to go back to what each of the departments because you kind of last time on some of these
departments you did the cuts which did you adjust them no um go ahead we did the 5% cut which may or may not have had these in there so you may have arbitrarily Okay i got you so they're still not in
there they're on this sheet i guess we got Okay oh this is coming back again all right so oh we never did i guess we'll look at these two sheets is there
anything here for town clerk that's first on our list i see nothing nothing no list to look at so we got the pink yeah and what she's saying is this is probably in our budget okay all right but they're going page by page let's
look at this okay well we're going to go off our book first so first up is treasure collector nothing and there's nothing second is historical there's nothing [Music]
about the house that's pretty simple so no planning town account there's one oh we got him now oh there we go here we go all right going in town accountants let's
mark that off she's right changes to a single auditable oh Gatsby yeah 30,000 or 30 we already approved it are you good with that okay i just want to make sure yep y
all right next up is computer i had that that we had a question on that last time yeah um we were questioning hardware software maintenance computer increase hardware software maintenance
31,000 increase mus training I know mus we definitely need um well so we need both right increase hardware software maintenance that percentage here over here is that could answer the question Yeah so
124,000 and this is 31038 say but they want to increase it from 198 to 230 230 right that's we circled it yes yeah that's what we were asking so this budget sheet wasn't full money i
don't think we have an option do we no that looks like that's contracted or whatever okay that's a yes and are we going to approve the budget at the same time because we do not the last time we get a
final service i don't think we have a final for the service of the manage service the managed service provider i don't think we have a final number
oh managed service okay yeah you had 140 did they fire people too management we were waiting on that before and someone still didn't get back to us i don't think it's that simple
unfortunately really so put a question mark there for now who is that following her laura them and Nicole okay put Nicole next to that so I can email him tomorrow thank you so you were okay with
the name [Music] okay i just want to You guys need all the right I just want to make sure I heard it yep i have spoken you have heard
it all right so management is good uh we got a new sheet today given to us yes you got a new sheet yep and I have it clipped meaning that we didn't approve it last week right because they didn't 5% which we do have yeah
and then there's also um new operation changes and increase to electricity sorry i got lost again sorry like management no um back to
um computers are you improving the minor equipment and supplies i put mine in above your packet please 475 each oh there it is i'm sorry Laura are you back to
computers yeah 475 for minor equipment 475 for supplies yeah we're not doing this that's my question you were already working in Yeah I'm good thank you
yes okay zeroing out the DVD recorder for 600 that's capital supplies and reduced his touch the telephone went
down as they only spent 1,900 last year are you okay with that yes minus five okay we have to go around the room what's that we have to go around and say yes well we can yes i don't want to get
yelled at so we did a motion in a second right motion to approve lake management lake management motion doc made a motion paul second it all those in favor Joe DDI
Sherry I robert Conway yeah okay legal negotiator operations increased to 13,000 sorry committee preservations okay conservation has nothing a has nothing there was an issue with maintenance right 3,600 they spent 58
3,600 now they want to go to 18,000 i didn't get anywhere with that um Joe there's actually an email from Dan that's attached to that that's Yeah is that the I didn't get
anywhere with that did you read it there isn't you're right there is i mean basically told me to reach out to the library and it sounds like she her numbers are down anyways it should be more in there but I don't know so much
about going to from 5,800 to 18,000 so I will put a question mark there and I will see her at the library oh right for Thursday we'll have information for next Thursday yeah
some of that's getting switched to building some grounds too so I've had a good It does and unfortunately Danny is lost he's just lost i thought they were training Danny they weren't um Yeah so that gets He is lost
and not in a bad way just he's just lost i give him credit he's returning my emails so yeah concept so DPW sewer is there anything on here dpw highway highway solid waste is sewer increase
electricity 500 one right there there's a few There we go come on okay is it in there then puff stations 950 400 400
oh an extra five00 i saw I just saw over here DTW solid waste increased electricity 01433 okay you're jumping around well we were going by the book okay i'm
sorry we were on We are okay solid wastes and sewer it's got She's looking at the interview you do a real good chair that are you at solid waste i'm at solid
waste apparently 500 more oh god I'm so sorry right okay all right so in my book we are on DPW okay so so we later discovered of all
the DPW right so that was the solid waste highway engineering increase for plans $432 utilities for a Y there [Music]
water next there's no [Music] wonder on the bottom of the first yes it is all right we got water we're on sewer right i
thought we were water did we just finish sewer no we didn't no we didn't all right sunshine oh my goodness flow fees pump stations and health right and we approved the budget so
for the city water right okay 1500 pump stations it's not on here oh yeah i see oh plus 15 okay so that came in later then so it needs to be $2,800
that pump station should go from 32 to 335 right 1500 flow was 34 yeah and the the sewage flow fee increases in here because I went from 421 to 455 so we did approve that but
she's saying that this pump station is near 15 it's over under the level funded that's right yeah yeah but we approved the 5% decrease so we'd have to add the 1500 into that
number right so this 32 to 33 we have yeah we can't take 5% cut on that line and then health insurance came in right health insurance can't even
so all three of those are yes y okay y water immediately Okay so the increase of the five meaning we have to go with level funded on this one is that what plus five is confident oops
[Music] that station has to be the 116 okay contracted equipment yeah that and the pump station looks like we have to go with level funded on
them it came in high right i mean the time for the equipment that's kind of subjective if the water lines break but but if they don't the money comes back well they were they were $1,200 over 24 but they've only expended
$8,000 on 35 um that's like one of them deals i mean if the water lines break and we need it but if they don't so right if they run short they can always come back for the extra money rather than just throwing it in there right so
I mean I would say we did originally last week when we were here we approved 35 yeah it's separate the water department is separate they generally don't come back through reserve fund transfers right they have their own
funds they have their own funds okay so we're looking at blessing to up their own funds or up the price that they can spend okay yeah that's Yeah yep so that's fine yeah yep and the flip side of that you've seen is when they're asking for the rates to go
up because they've already spent their money and I have a Well so okay what their rates do so I just find my water so it's a no it's a yes for it's a yes yeah yeah y you want a a motion to
approve the two pink papers laura get through the We didn't do them all we didn't do them all yeah we did we did the council and police department we didn't do No yeah yeah yeah
we also didn't actually talk about the second line item in the library which was the to meet the state aid right oh increase information 90% required by state aid y so that's a yes
I have to yeah library all right so then library is done okay we have a question mark next to the contract one Yep yep council on Aging Increase Education
Classes i thought we said no last week did we you said no yes we said no they said no what you did say no on that yeah I have it here yep no and then we said yes to the board of health cell phone because we said yes to the was no longer taking it we had already said that
before did we do lake restoration well we're going up so we did solid waste we did highway engineering we did PBW highway lake [Music] restoration was a police department well we're working up we're going up the hill
yeah we're going backwards yeah so lake restoration increased water sampling test didn't we say yes to that i thought we did yeah I'm pretty sure we did i thought we said add line for canal beaver removal yeah
i believe we were okay with like restoration because they gave us their updated one we said okay correct so that's like management the updated ones like management like restoration is something different and I don't voted on
it i don't have anything voted on from lake management for lake for lake restoration we don't have a lake restoration tab in here it's right behind lake management yeah lake management did we say yes
i have nothing for that one but we were saying she doesn't have anything yeah lake restoration is within lake management and I have no writing on it either so hold on hold on we must have missed it we didn't have our own tab finally follow
and then it's like there budget is there and then there's a little itty bitty well not itty bitty but is it past all lake restoration yep he
didn't do it at all so they're looking to be well they took $500 off these control for us yeah and $300 off Canal Brook Fever Dam any water sampling they want to go
up increased water supply 1500 and add what's the difference between the lake management when it comes to the beavers already approved it once yeah and there's no we did management no it's
not what do we approve it on we on on capital expenses canal Brook Beaver Dam and Log removal standard Brook is the key word there canal Brook are we actually removing beavers the beavers the dam no just the dam log log
removal beaver removal so this this also says add line canal beaver yeah canal brook and canal beaver if you look on the second page of like restoration it talks about the beaver
removal as a new item thank you they can move right to his house although they could move to my house i don't but I have it crazy i spent two days over the Beaver Dams okay
now okay so canal Brook Beaver Dams is 6,000 and then beaver removal is a separate thing right and then now beaver removal for Oh yes okay well I think it's a cushion to sit in there right and then it's what it is to get them out
and up the 9,000 to the 1500s or 105 105 for the water lab right if the fees are increasing so right not much we can do about that there isn't and there's probably nothing we can do
about the 2,000 for the beavers mhm are we okay with that cuz he seems to be pretty reasonable with what he's asking for 9,000 so increasing from 100 Oh so that's already in there yeah that's on
the list y the 9,000 is the new number yeah right there number right so we're just saying this budget yep under the lake weed control the hydrillaa he said that was a typo it should have
been um 12,500 instead of 2500 25,000 or 2500 what 2500 the hydrilla yeah under lake weed control here he had it on his level funded he had it as
2,500 that should have been 12,500 oh that's a big difference yeah 25 budget had 125 in it have we spent any of that for sure so that's that's just what they call the
lake weed control doesn't have it broken up it's on the first page yeah was reduced from 125 to zero it should be 125 but if the grant covers it for three years they wanted it in there just to be safe
in case it got cut that's right in case it gets cut yes so are we looking at 125 yes we are okay so how do So if Well if the grant comes in anyways it goes to the general fund it go back to Yeah right right so no
harm no foul it's not like he's got 25 cm okay that's fine okay so we have to go around the table on this one and approve it um lake restoration we didn't approve it last
week so we did we No we only did Yeah we did not we did lake management and we moved on and didn't realize we had it so need a motion for the lake restoration second all right in favor Joe i did I shar
robert Conley so lake management increase electricity 200 yeah we approved that last week yeah i thought we the lake well we got their new budget right which
we approved minus five yeah i thought the electricity we said no to because if they do the fixing of the heat pump Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what that's for yeah then it's a no because we moved up the Yeah the heat
pump right so that should drop it down yeah the $200 yeah because the heat pump will take care of that right but it's interesting it's not like you can go in that account and So how does that work i know you guys I know people can go into other accounts but when it's the main stay like electricity and stuff like that no
one can touch that but you to pay the bill right it's there to pay to pay the electricity bill right period period period okay thank you animal control we talked about that remove line vehicle maintenance we said
no it can stay right where it All right police department there's a lot of moving around there's a lot of It's just really moving things around flipping around you can see that it adds up it says increase and combine office
supplies computer supplies and miscellaneous supplies remained greater than other right but we've added to that yeah the bottom the last one is increase move animal control all right so let's start at the top
increase combined citizen police academy line and rat training line renamed as community policing program and that's the same amount of money Laura is it two okay thank you yeah right below it is that number okay next
up increase combined office supplies line computer supplies line and min miscellaneous supply line rename as supplies got that i got that are we okay with
that Laura will that work yes is the number gone up no i know i'm just I got to 821 i want to hear a no that's all thank you remove line computer supplies remove line
miscellaneous supplies which is those two increase combine chief development training line and conference and travel line rename conference travel and chief chief development is what it should say right we ran out
of room that's fine so it's the same dollar value combined together we okay with that yes yeah laura are we okay with that okay increase combined dive equipment service and maintenance line and dive and
recovery line rename dive team and RC okay okay with that the next one is we already know because that balances out the other yeah that's gone all
right so we're okay there we talked about computers legal negotiator operations that was in the back with all other budgets right all right can we because I don't think we for the police yeah we didn't okay
have a check mark on 7:00 guys we're doing all right okay police cruiser fee was already got 11,000 in that that is used to maintain that cruiser correct that they're using to do the work with the traffic the
traffic yeah good okay do you think they actually take money out of that for repairs or do you think it falls under the other one yeah doesn't matter it's there yeah you don't I would assume they would take it
out of that but I can't be for sure it just comes in for you know yep yep understood actually that's okay because if it builds up enough when it time to buy a new cruiser for that particular division there you go kids anyways I'm just being sarcastic i
know i got to stop that all right so we're on police you want us to make a motion well I guess it's Are you looking at the 5% decrease yes we are yes we are all right so then So you basically you were okay with
combining all those lines yes i'm not but we are yes yeah we're okay combining okay so now we'll do the dollar value right so the dollar value is well it depends on what you're doing whether you're doing the 5%
doing the 5% yeah but looking at the 280 289 that's operations mhm yep all right so I need a motion for the 280 289 for the police operations budget which
is a minus5 motion second those in favor Joe Di I D Maria I Dr sharing Robert a little bit there we don't have to do the school
what next assessor assessor negotiation a massive expense for those select too much yep which is just a consultant for 15,000 which is a yes because of the whole mess over there yeah that's going to be low i
know so I'm hoping with the select board in front of us on Thursday we can get real numbers just forewarning you just saying understood yep so we're okay with that yep and we okay with a select board increase
volunteer recognition $18 that's got to be rounding a number off that's all that's got to be i really hope Paul you're worth more than 18 i think so i'm not going anywhere you can't get rid of any of that so we
haven't voted on any of the um selected operations okay so we'll go there now and that's in the back of the book right probably in the back of the book for you guys yeah it's um other all other budgets all other budgets if we don't
fund them are they out of business they were looking for a raise last [Laughter] night i can't stop so should we just start with moderator and go through the whole bunch well I ended up bing a pick i think she wanted $10 more or something didn't she what
was she asking 50 bucks she actually I don't care if she appointed us she actually called me want to know whether she had to take a 5% cut i says "No I don't think the 750 is going to break the town." So I think $150 is good so okay so so we are not going to cut 5% no
we were hard fast on everybody and absolutely our boss we're not going to cut you know that looks I never cut the boss she signed that check she check well my well my my boss does sign check i haven't seen my check in 43
years i'm not going to either if you keep fine okay so moderator did moderator i I think it's a discret we're gonna hear about it it's going to be on the front page tomorrow we have to vote on it right vote on it yes we have to vote i need a
motion to approve moderator as written for $220 motion second all those in favor joe DD i D Maria I Sharon I Robert paul Conley okay
well just for a quick note as we were talking about making the voting easier with the iPads that day is coming that we're going to have to look at those transponders again for our town meetings yep it's just coming um she didn't she I don't think she brought it up again but
right I would love to be able to rent it and just check try it one time around and see where that's really really at some folks have a hard time raising their hand in front of people for the right reasons select
board salaries can't touch that sure we could they want to go up on the last slip versus elementary system okay well actually these have changed because of the Do you have the new numbers Laura
for part-time salaries and all that she said she's leaving 2,000 in one account an overtime an overtime so that'll get changed now um then part time oh she did it i'm sorry
yep okay and then the part-time salary is zero zero so their their process is to push that over to town planner economic development okay so what's your field driver let me tell
you we're not getting rid of them i don't care oh they did get rid of it we're putting that back in for a dollar we had a whole dollar in the town spend that back in that's history right there okay that is history this town was founded 250 something years ago
by a field driver okay so he's staying i was going to apply for a job i'm going to pay a dollar sign me up i don't know if you have enough to and I am and I am on a fixed income you know so I could use the extra block maybe if you cut 5% 10 minutes ago we talked about it you
didn't cut i'm sorry yeah I vote the field driver stays in for a dollar i know it's a Southwood thing but I'd like to keep it i need some history of our town services appointment
discussion ready admission so they're asking us level of funding with that yeah but didn't Yeah but didn't we give them $18 we did well that's Well yeah because the budget was 1482 and they're asking for Well they put it level funded
but that somebody has to explain what level funded means uh yes 1500 is not level funded to 1482 so they're technically asking for an increase that's the $18 yeah okay that makes sense well they're trying to round up so we could
just help them by rounding down the 1400 1400 i'm good with that that'll be 1400 Laura for that one for the recommendations yeah just we're going to show that yeah but what about the other line
items are you leaving at level or 5% 5% we all have to feel the pain not just the town moderator seems right into their revolving account they have
one select port only has a gift i'm sorry gift account you are correct and there's no money in their gift account doesn't matter there is very little in there they usually use it to fill
throwing away parties and was quite a push this last few years it's empty okay now you just got to exit interview chief administrative okay
assistant chief administrative officer that's off what's that certification certification student so does that assistant chief administrative officer or is that supposed to be slashhr person yeah that
is the HR person okay all right yeah that is that is just so we know yeah yeah okay i guess I think the original name was because I truly think they thought they'd put someone in there to be trained and become replacement yeah it didn't work out that way as time went on
but I think I truly thought that was that was their thoughts back then it's really an HR All right but a chief administrative officer but she's the assistant chief okay oh yeah so they decrease the certifications
no they are not the same i'm sorry so they didn't show a decrease well that's salary i'll show operations here we go are you allowed to lower the auto allowance Laura i don't think so right
no no so we'll fix that all right so now I I the only question I have is up above we have certifications 5107 and then down below it under the operations 524 402 we have certification
expenses so which is it we have certifications up above and certifications below so so the certification is when they get the certification they get that extra statement um the expenses are any of the
classes that they need to take in order to achieve or maintain certification well Rob not all of them have that but this particular y does all right so we'll bump back up the auto [Music]
allowance and we'll take the difference out of their supplies Laura to get it back down to the 5% and the furniture looks like the first time was 700 they spent 329 in 2024 they spent the 700 go
through a lot of furniture in that office dollars a year but what is that a good lazy boy nowadays well I'm not sure i just I don't remember the last time I bought furniture no your house came furnished i've been quoting it around the world for the past couple years
to move it cost to buy it that's right cost me nothing company moved it for me there you go all right so you leave furniture alone sure why not okay light falls off a chair you got to
replace it stay awake there buddy wait almost done i know lights on the wall reserve fund that's what I'm next right
reserve fun account it's not really for us though is it isn't it related to salary the reserve know if that's what we tap into every time we do a reserve fund transfer oh that one okay thank you see the big name on top the big boss Laura Fletcher right
there lady in charge in case Laura wants a raise we got the money for no it doesn't come out of there either laura I tried that's what my tried yeah you tried you tried there's nothing in that either for um
$1,500 or anything more she passes there's nothing there yep yep yep do we want to cut the reserve fund transfer by 5% i would say no yep okay there is there some wage
negotiations we're not going to touch that either so that's everything for select right so let's So we want to make a motion for the select board at the 5% second
all those in favor jo I Robert Conley I then we need a motion for the 5% cut for the chief administrative officer motion made second thank you all those in favor Joe DD I
Sharon I project and then we're going to go to reserve fund transfer make a motion to leave alone motion second all those in favor Joe D we do I question Sharon Iber Conley
I now the finance committee and we're going to slash it all out of conference and travel right well if we're not going to go anywhere oh I'm going places well that we know
it's just this doesn't require any money because I'm looking out the window at the beach on the plane i'm just going to say that there no no god no bo Joe don't need no money hell no seriously you
wanted to look at your D lines yeah adjust that we got to adjust our dues line we want to adjust that to 196 that's the minimum that is needed and I would also like to add to my
supply item to make it 300 and it can all come out of conference and travel would the 5% cut also out of conference and travel does that make sense sure look like
we're just adding $6 right because the other the other thing is a flop what's that we're adding $6 for dues and then we're just transferring 300 from one and taking it from the other yep and then and then still the 5% cut right so just
4117 instead of 111 so 411 411 she's all coming out in conference and driving oh you're taking the six out of conference too oh oh sorry 196 conference and travel
3,615 and supplies 300 4,100 okay it still goes out to 411 yeah well yeah it's the same numbers right right yeah yeah yeah you're right do you think that's enough for supplies Laura
yeah okay i just want to make sure while we're there kids next year maybe we're getting new books if you're still here you just I turn mine in i do too but you just might be getting you know you never know we're gonna get all tablets
bring your own device b that's what you do with our board bring your own device oh D not B oh you can do both ub is at 7:35 joe okay let's get going we'll vote
171 i don't think we touched legal vote on finance yeah and a motion to motion approve all those in favor joe D i believe Maria I Sharon I Robert check
okay leveling legal I wouldn't for the legal negotiator operations on page two they're looking for 100,000
from the 86 So that's we are going out to bid for legal services this number may increase so we have legal services now and we have a line item for it so they're going to go out to bid so we can spend more money for legal services
why something seems weird because sometimes Bacon and Wilson doesn't get back to them right away that's really why and I'm sorry whenever I offend that time but patience is a virtue not in this town it needs to be learned
wilson's been around for a long time we are going out to bid for legal services this number may may be increased by March don't we say no question mark well it's April yeah sir yeah I would say no in my opinion well I would
say no say no say some figure it out i I just I I get that they're not I get no one's perfect right but why would we want to increase our because you have to wait an extra day right for truth and and I it's all good
i just you know it's a changing of the guard and sometimes with you know you're busy too board of appeals need a motion for legal services motion second joe I Maria I Sharon Olson I
Robert I Paul Conley I right board of appeals conference and travel and we have nothing over here for we're done with our sheets what we're done with those extra sheets so we just cruise through all these are
we okay with board of appeals yep make a motion for the second 5% yeah 85 second motion motion made and seconded all those in favor joe D i Maria I Robert annual Townley is that the book
how are we going to be well we we did some homework there and we're just going to do it in we're gonna Well we have no budget book we have no Tom report books left so we did go through them throughout the year or Laura said some might have gotten thrown
out in theory but we don't know that for sure so I personally wouldn't touch it our budget books we have 150 left over right now so when we get to that if that's here I don't mind maybe shaving 75 of them but the annual reports are
going out great we're okay with it okay level funded y need a motion to level fun second all those in favor jody i Alita Jun I Sher Nolson I Albert Ro I paul Conley
constable salaries we can't touch the salaries veteran we level fund that what's that shouldn't we level fund them constable no no no no veteran veteran services what's next i just got there sorry you guys got to go
a little slower because my numbers are not in the same order as yours no okay no problem that's all right just say hold for us yeah yeah so so Laura when you get to it we're at veteran services and it's at 8750 it's at 8
so Oh yeah i think you leave this alone we leave this alone we're grouped up with a few others level level yeah we level funding yes yeah are you there now okay motion to level fund
motion second all those in favor Joe I shar channel 15 which uses channel 15 money so nothing to do about that so we can't
state we don't touch we don't touch that you're not doing anything with principal and interest coming up either do you it is what it is well don't go that far please oh I don't have any i have a bunch of zero sheets on channel
15 [Music] so salaries operations contracts and agreements i should have stuck together some So the contracting agreements the the year before they were way over
do you think we're okay do you want to do anything with that i would just I mean leave it i would leave it because it comes out of the channel 15 anyways channel 15 the budget yeah budget so need a motion to leave channel 15 as is motion yes second
all those in favor bill D i need Marina i all right next up is principal which we won't touch but please peruse it so you see where your money is being spent years on a DBW garage looks like they done with the
fuel tanks this year if I'm reading it correctly Mhm look at that in retirement i think that line's going to change i know it's going to change it's going to go up
that's just a So we should circle back to that one when Don't we always put more in we do yeah so we Right we usually do we we bump at 25,000 or something right or 50 we could be
more than that oh you're telling us we have Okay I understand you'll have a pay salary you'll have a firm figure when Oh I believe Thursday for Thursday okay how do you keep track
of all this there's so many things floating where is That's why sometimes when I go to my office I go "Hey what did you do right now?" Yeah no I
get it three heads yeah all right appreciate it laura that uh property and uh casualty line item now is that liability insurance for life okay the water's hard is that There we
go come on why you laughing we weren't going to get out of here with that but is is that that what covers all that stuff it covers kind of Okay was it not built yet no it's not a
completed project it's not factored in the rates will go up next year first red line item was okay thank you yeah office said they were going to cover that you guys hurt my feelings too many
less all right so all I got there laura what are we missing yeah because we're out of pages so hope we're not missing think we did it bring my screen time i did not bring
I wanted to bring the the marshmallow one um I made an attempt today to make the chicken fried ice cream didn't work out oh it worked out that's the problem no I didn't talk to him i just
library sorry yeah library i have to talk to her about that bump perfect nothing else um you want us to make a motion for a 5% decrease other than that or do you want to just wait until we'll wait till Thursday we can wait till Thursday yeah anything we miss we can Do
you want me to come with you seeing that that's my department i'm available because you know how long we have to be with you though i just don't know i know i know that's the toughest part of it right there yeah what the heck you deserve a nice time you can come yeah just let me know when
you're going all right um it looks like Thursday's a good day for me okay all right my people will call your people and we'll go Thursday yeah go ahead i'll check with her we're going to go Thursday 9:00 a.m from church 9:15 Thursday morning
are we good Laura do we need to make a motion to finish this all up with the two chairman or we do that Thursday do that on Thursday thursday okay let's get through yeah yep no no just want to make sure all right all right i need a motion to adjurnn
motion second all those in favor jo I D Maria I Sharon I hatch thank you folks if you're online