##VIDEO ID:wuC6QZYQXNM## 2:00. We're going to call this emergency meeting to order. Roll call please. Mr. Mrozinski here. Mr. Sprecher here. Miss Ryan. Here, miss Hallett. Here. Okay. Are there any public comments about anything that we're going to be talking about this afternoon? Anybody want to ask anything? Not that we can answer a question, but anybody want to say anything? No. Okay. We're going to move on. All right. Discussion. Temporary delegation of certificate of approval. Authority. Caroline, if you would kind of give us some background and what why we're here. Okay. So as we all know, we've experienced two natural disasters in three weeks. And parts of our local historic district have been pretty devastated. So in order to expedite recovery of those areas and the historic areas in general, the city is requesting that you consider delegation of your authority to issue certificate of approvals for certain storm related repairs and replacements. And if you look at the attachments, exhibit A, we've modified that to show the items that we're requesting you consider temporary delegation for. One would be porch. Replace and repair. Normally, if they're going to use anything other than the original materials and style that would need to come in front of the board. But as you know, with the significant flooding we had, a lot of people probably are going to be needing to do porch repairs and replacements so that would be the first item. The second item is related to roofs with our second hurricane that came through, we had some wind damage, so some people might be needing to repair or replace roofs. Normally, if they were going to use a different material than what was originally there, that would come in front of you. We're requesting that that be a staff review at this point. And then the remaining items are siding, whether it be stucco, brick or what have you. Normally, if they were going to be replacing their siding with anything other than the original material that would come in front of you, but we're requesting that that be reviewed at a staff level. And then windows and doors. Again, with the flooding, some people might have storm related pairs to their windows and doors. And typically, if they were using something other than the original materials that would need to come in front of you. And we're requesting that that be a staff level review. And I can ask answer any questions you have. How long were you thinking of keeping this in place? I think a good rule of thumb would maybe be because it's storm related damage, and I know this is probably something nobody wants to hear, but it might take years. So I would say three years like we do for our certificate of approval. Okay. And this would be strictly storm related repairs. Strictly storm related repairs. So damage that came from the storm. All right. And we don't want this to happen, but between now and three years, if we have another disaster like this, will we just automatically let you continue doing it? Or do you have to come back to us? I think that would be up to you. I would say probably be good just to check boxes to come back if that were to happen. Okay. Okay. Okay. Mister chair, can I weigh in on this? As a city city attorney, Andrew Dickman. Sure. So what staff is requesting of you is because of the fact that you're currently under a local state of emergency, which is also part of the county and governor's issuance of a state of emergency. So under that parameters, state statutes allows for the waiver of certain things to protect property and people. And so staff is requesting for folks that need to make quick, quick repairs to their property to prevent damage. That we streamline it through an administrative part. So the only thing I want to add to that is regarding the timeline is that this has to be tied to tied to the local state of emergency. So when the local state of emergency is lifted, the administration would then it would have to revert back to the normal procedures. So I don't think we can extend it out for three years or two years while we're under a local state of emergency. Certainly we could tie it to that, or we could set it out at three months, four months and then come back and reissue it. We're also going to have to decide, you know, whether this is going to be done straight through an order from the city manager to waive these, these parts of the code or whether it has to be done in a an emergency ordinance through the Board of board of commissioners. But either way, I think the point that I'm trying to make is that it has to be tied. Like once the local state of emergency is lifted, they can no longer be waiving any codes that might require coming to a public hearing. Okay. So at this point, let's say for this purposes, that it's going to be as long as the state of emergency exists, when that runs out, maybe this board with the attorney could go back and look, because people are going to be preparing for quite a while, that thank you for the clarification, sir. And I would like us to be able to come back if it's too short of a time because it's going to I'd like to keep that option open for us. Sounds good. Okay. Go ahead. Does anybody have any questions for Caroline? Any any clarifications or anything? Just as a question. You know, if somebody doesn't like the staff's recommendations or something like that, can they come before the board or is that. Absolutely, absolutely. So that's their that's their absolute then. Okay. Sounds goo. Okay. Any any other discussion on this piece. Do we do we understand exactly what what we're doing. Go ahead. Yeah. No. She wants to talk. Standing up. Oh, hi. Okay. Because I had asked for comments, so I frankl, I thought the comments were for things not on the agenda, but I would like to speak to this when it's appropriate. I would like to. That's fine. That's fine. Come on back. Let's have your name and your address. Sure. My name is Cindy Trapani. My husband and I own a home in the district. At 22 North Spring Boulevard. We also own multiple commercial properties in the downtown area, and I applaud the staff for trying to streamline this. For people who need to make an immediate solution to the damage that they've had. I think I appreciate Mr. Dickman's comments. I was very concerned that this was going to go on too long, because if it's an immediate problem, people are going to deal with it immediately. And I don't in the next 60, 90 days. Other than that, I think they need to go through the regular process. So I think that's a good idea. I appreciate his comment about tying it to the state of emergency. I also want to make sure and maybe it'll be in the final ordinance or resolution, whatever that the board of Commissioners passes, that it's only for damage from Helene and Milton. It's not retroactive, doesn't apply to other projects that might have previously had a certificate of appropriateness, or might be have a certificate of appropriateness pending, and has nothing to do with storm damage. And I'm specifically speaking about coach, I want to ask the staff, is this going to apply to coach or is it they're going to go through the same regular process that they have to go through? Absolutely not. We have other cases that are pending, and they're going to be meeting at the regular meetings. Okay, great. For storm damage, I just want to be sure. I think it's absolutely a fair thing to do for people who had storm damage. But again, I don't think it needs to go on forever. And I again, I think it's a good idea to have this to let people, you know, they need to make a repair quickly. And so that's what that's what this process would do. And I think it's a good idea with those safeguards that we've talked about. And thank you for your time. Great. Thank you. Any other comments? As long as we as long as I opened it up to her. No. Okay. If there aren't any more questions or discussion, I would like someone to make a motion and. And I'm thinking that maybe part of the motion should mention the two storms. Helene and Milton. Okay. Yeah, I'll make a motion to accept the recommendations as written for the five areas. And this is for storm damage only. Milton and. Helene. Helene. Yeah. Second. Okay. We have a motion. Any any more discussion on that time frame that we're assigning to it, then? I know because we don't know when the emergency is going to end. So maybe it's 60 days. This is for the state of emergency. I, I put one in per the attorney. I would say in the motion we say during the period of emergency with, with the inclusion of, we will come back and revisit it when, when the state of emergency is lifted. I'll, I'll add that to the motion that we do we sorry. Do we typically know how long those last know when. So I think it depends on how long we had Debbie. How long did it last? Well, it wasn't as bad, so I don't know. It could last as long as the need is there. I would just I would hate to I. Yeah, I can, I can, I can try to address that that question. In order for the city to issue its own local state of emergency, it has to do so under a state. The governor issued state of emergency. So the governor's while the governor's state of emergency is in place, I would imagine the city has they have to re they only last for a certain period of time. So the declaration of a local state of emergency has to be renewed periodically. It's. And so as long as the city feels that it's important for it to be in a local state of emergency, it will continue to do so. But it's not going to be in perpetuity. A lot of lot of that is addressed is done because of the FEMA cleanup and reimbursement and things of that nature, but it has to be renewed from time to time. But it it's all tied also to once the state the governor lifts the state of emergency. Okay. For clarification though, say the state lifts it and our board of commissioners say no. I think we need to do it for another month. Does that supersede the state's removal of the emergency? Yes. So the city is has to work under a governor's state of emergency. So the city could not issue a declaration of emergency of this nature. Anyway, during dealing with a storm emergency, unless the governor has issued it now, the governor will renew it or amend it from time to time. And I don't expect that the governor's state, you know, executive order will change or be lifted anytime soon, given the state, the extent and breadth of the damage that occurred in Florida. But I think that that so the cities, state, local, state of emergency cannot be in place for the storm unless the governor's state of emergency is in place. Does that make sense? Yeah, sort of, because you kind of. Yeah, that didn't really answer my question. So, so the so the city can't unilaterally. So the city the city cannot extend it. Once the governor stops the state of emergency, the city cannot say no, we want it for another month. So we cannot do that. It's a complicated question, but it's directed by state statute. I don't want to give a blanket answer here, but generally speaking, what happens is that as long as the governor's state of emergency is in place, the city's local state of emergency will will be in place and then go from there. Okay. All right. Thank you. If I could, I think tying it to the state of emergency is fine for right now, but within the motion you made stating that when that comes back, we will revisit it. Yeah. At that time, we could do something that is not tied to the state of emergency. That was what I was just going to say. Okay, good. Okay. So we're going to add that to the motion that we're going to tie it to the you want to restate your your motio. So Kim has all the you know do you have it. I can read. Oh why don't you read back what we have. Okay. To approve the temporary delegation for repairs related to storm damage from Helene and Milton to the extent of the state of emergency. Of the state of Florida. Declared by the state of Florida. All right. And I don't know if we need to add that. We'll revisit it if needed. I don't think we have to add that to the motion. I don't think we have to adjust the motion. Just. Yeah. Okay. All right. Does everybody understand the motion and what a yes vote is? And what a no vote is. Are there any more questions? No. All right. Let's call the vote. Miss Howlett. Yes. Miss Ryan. Yes. Mr. Sprecher? Yes. Mr. Mrozinski. Yes. All right. Thank you. Board and staff comments. Any other comments from the board here about anything? When is it? When is the next scheduled meeting? November. November third. Second. Fourth. Fourth. Fourth. Fourth. Yeah. We can meet in that election day. It's Tuesday's election. It's the day before election day. So Tuesday is the fifth. That's election. Okay. I've had. That would be my fourth meeting. And I have to fly out on that Monday for work. So I need some way to get my project, which I've been waiting now for four meetings before the board. I think that's a separate personal issue that is not really relevant to this meeting. It's relevant as far as just I then whoever I need to talk to after. Yeah. We can discuss your case. That was before. Because. Because in Milton it damaged my windows. So now I I'm more of in a pickle because I have water physically coming into my home. Okay. Well, let's have an aside. Okay. Hi. Do you want to say something? I do, Rene Vincent, planning and zoning director. We also just wanted to, you know, ask you to kind of keep keep flexible. We may need to schedule special meetings as we go along for things that might come up that aren't covered under this. So just trying to be accommodating to people through the through this. So I know you will be, but just wanted to get that into the record. Sure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Any more staff comments? Yes, sir. I did have some. I was going to that to that point. That was one of them. But yeah, I also wanted to gauge your flexibility. We do have a backlog you know now of cases. So if you would be open to having additional meetings. I am. Yeah. Whenever. Yeah. I think if it's important, certainly we'll meet. Okay. That's good. And then also, just as an aside, I wanted we've got some folks from the public here. I will be acting as the city's liaison to the fruit bowl area. So I'm not ever going to have all of the answers. But I will help everybody try and find them. So if you're living in that hard hit area, hit me up and I'll try and help you out. Try and connect you with the resources that you need. So, okay. I will call this meeting adjourned at 217. Thank you everyone. I was told it was in two weeks.