##VIDEO ID:lgfiKzlv2R0## for all of that um because I know the pay you get uh is uh tremendous and uh uh you can buy a um a BLT uh down at Jake's place for what oh no it's way too expensive uh uh and so um the um um and so the uh David as I got this list from uh Michael of the people who've gone through all of the Hoops I don't know how I haven't counted all the Hoops there are six seven eight nine Hoops to go through to complete the process your name isn't on the list of uh people who've completed all of Hoops I missed the last I missed the last meeting uh so I was unaware of the Hoops yeah so um talk to Michael burus about what hoop you haven't done yet okay uh but uh you're not yet through them all I I think I'll just quickly read all the names Bullard uh Shauna Bob dalor Jim whiten Phil Weinberg Mike yman Tony enzio Wendy Nicholas constant ski Jake mcgan Ross Moran Jeff Canton Mike Sullivan Mark Rasmus and Donna amiral Kevin Kurt Ray reposa Shan leech and so uh uh did I read Kim Kim Batello I don't think I read your name either so if you want to be an official member then Kim you also have to uh talk to Michael about you know have you been nominated have you done whatever Hoops you've got to do to become uh a member this this is we're not trying to keep anyone off but there it's a c board so you've got to just get through the Hoops you got to get through okay so that ien I was gonna say I haven't done any Hoops so um I I'll talk to Mike and Deborah about it and see if they want me to do that okay um uh we encourage it John you know a lot of it doesn't require votes you know 90% of what we do doesn't require any votes uh but 10% of it does so it's up to you um and but talk to Michael and he will tell you uh what's involved I'm not a resident of Westport does that make a difference uh I don't think it does make a difference actually uh because um I don't have the thing right in front of me it's uh you know you would be a nominee I think of the Watershed Alliance or something like that and that would clear clear you in there so um we have others like Mark Rasmus who lives in Fair a who's uh from the Buzzards Bay Coalition so I don't I don't think residency is uh is key um all right so that's just another ad for uh if you do want to be able to vote uh you have to be an official member uh and again 90% of what we do it doesn't matter um so with that um join John point of point of clarification um if I had been a voting member and there was a date a due date when certain Hoops needed to be uh jumped or shot or I'm I don't know what the right verb is there um does that mean h not having uh jumped those Hoops I cannot vote today is or you uh correct yeah you can't uh if we do have a vote and I think the only vote would be if we're going to do uh appointment of offshore win that's a vote uh then you can't vote but there's no uh due date in terms of when you become a member uh so you can become a member next week um or you know next month um and um uh and so the the thing today let me just do let me just get to that point on the agenda because it's very early anyway and then we can talk about it um uh minutes uh we're going to do uh three or four things we're going to do the minutes then we're going to talk about the appointment offsh your wi then we're going to have a presentation by Kim uh who's talked with uh some school groups then we're going to talk to uh Jeff with the Outreach committee who has an impossible t so it's going to be fascinating that part of the agenda uh which is how do you take all the first drafts that we've all participated in and uh which are all really good but really different and start to turn them into uh a single report that looks like it came from one committee and I can't wait to for that part of the program to see this magician at work um is there anything else we need to discuss at at this meeting I would just say I would just say John that as of right now on this call we have eight members and we need 10 for a quorum so um no voting can take place at this moment all right so what we will do given that is that the only thing that needs a vote which needs a quorum is that a vote on the offshore wind so we will defer that part of the agenda towards the end of the meeting if we're lucky another couple of people will show up and we'll have a quorum and in the meantime we'll get on with other items on the agenda uh if uh we uh don't get those two people uh we'll put that item off until the next meeting um is that seem reasonable to people wow resounding silence in deference to the wisdom of the chair that's the way I'm interpreting it I was imperceptibly nodding my head John yeah oh okay I was up all right so I think I think that uh since it's going you're going to put it at the very end of the meeting now um I don't know maybe maybe we should just wait until the next meeting for it or call a special meeting um you know I I personally will probably have to leave the meeting a little bit earlier and I would like very much to be part of that discussion um about the offshore wind committee so uh but you know it was on the committee for early I mean it was on the agenda for early on and um so I don't know I guess well that's a good point constant so we can discuss it uh on the agenda but if we don't have a quorum we can't vote on it so good point why don't we discuss it um but if we don't have a quorum we can't vote on it is would that be okay constant yeah that's okay uh but I I don't think we should hold off the vote until the last minute of the meeting uh like I said I'm not gonna be uh I probably will have to check out early so I I'm not sure what that means but yeah yeah that's fine with me yeah it's just we can't vote on it without a quorum uh so let's uh we'll keep it on the agenda we'll talk about it but if there's no Quorum then uh we can't vote on it and we'll defer it until uh if a if a quorum shows up we'll vote on it as soon as a quorum shows up if not we'll defer it till the next meeting all right John John this is Jake sorry yeah David David just asked a question in the chat and I just wanted to clarify um the as a member of CRC I was appointed by Conservation Commission to this committee so what was what entailed was going to the town clerk work and getting sworn in you fill out that now most recently you would have had to have done it's like an open meetings um and an ethics and conflict of interest training by the state it's about an hour long that you go through that process and then it obviously gets sent to the clerk that you actually completed it and then there was a form you supposed to sign saying that you did receive the actual um guidelines and handbooks so I think those would be the three things David you'd have to do and I as a member of the public I just don't know how you were nominated onto the commit like I know you've joined the committee you've been here forever but I just don't know if that's at the town clerk because they had a form at the town clerk's office that already that swore me in as a member of conservation so that was the first step and then the the last two that I just completed in the past month was the the training and the um form that you've received pack well those would be I guess the three things this is Jim whiten I just wanted to clarify I think the members that are not appointed by a a committee or board or appointed by the select board so if if David is is not on the list he has to get appointed by the select board um well I mean I don't have it on my FR fridge in Watertown but on my fridge in Westport I have a 8 and a half by 11 piece of paper that was signed that said I'm on the committee and so if there are thing like I don't remember how I became appointed or or you know came on the committee but you know I have it but if there were certain obligations that I needed to fill over the last year um I uh I'm unaware of those um until now and I just need Clarity on what they are I don't understand what has changed between last meeting and and this meeting other than the possibility that we operate in annual sessions and we're entering a new session and there were hurdles that I I had to jump before entering the new session I I mean I I'm not clear I and David the only reason I knew that is as a member of conservation so as a member of Conservation Commission and John and others on here I think had to do that for their positions you know and Municipal Employees and government employees everyone has to do it even if it's it's a volunteer so I think that that's the only reason why I knew to do it and I did it because it overlapped with conservation this so that's why John I think maybe Amy can speak to this Amy sent out a note a while ago asking if we wanted to be reappointed and I I I responded Yes I assume that that's how my my appointment request went to the board of Selectmen so did maybe Amy can tell us who was sent on mass to the yeah yeah I responded Yes to that as well Michael and um and I think uh the request was then you had to get sworn in by the town clerk which oh I've I've done that and I've done the training and I've signed the I've done everything right as of today I did had done everything but the point is that Amy knows if David was sent David's name was sent over to the board of selectman for reappointment yeah so David's name was not sent over um I had sent out probably late May or early ju uh early June um multiple emails stating if you wanted to be reappointed to the committee you needed to email me back stating so because I was going to send the list off to the select board for reappointment and I did not hear back from David sprogis so I did not send his name in for reappointment so David even if you you said you weren't present for the last meeting on July 18th I was not there no but I'm looking I'm looking through prior emails from you um I can reply to one of them saying yes um but there was no there's no clear like uh call to action at the bottom of it um it simply says what you just said which is that you need to send reappointments uh over U maybe I'm missing the right one I I sent multiple ones out but if you want to be reappointed I can send that to the select board uh that requests tomorrow morning and then at their next available agenda they can reappoint you okay sworn it do the conflict of interest and the the ethics so you need the email from me still or is my verbal no your verbal is fine okay thank you you're welcome I don't want to take uh too much time at this meeting on it we have had as difficult as this is 18 people who have successfully navigated this process and U and so and seven of those are here which is not close to a quorum a quorum is 10 so uh you know maybe three will show up that would be great I'm I'm not holding my breath on that uh so I think uh constant's idea that we should discuss this issue when we get to it on the agenda uh is a good one but uh without uh a quorum of 10 we're not going to vote on it and so we can then have the discussion and then move on to other items on the agenda um and uh which don't require votes or quorums um so uh with that um a Amy thank you uh for uh another great job on the minutes of the meeting of July 18th and for sending them out to uh everyone in advance uh as I mentioned before the meeting got underway I I read them and found them really good although I have a a number of uh either typos or small editorial uh comments I don't want to take the time of the meeting I will call you uh tomorrow morning with those so you can correct the official version of the minutes I I don't want to take the time of this uh meeting to go over typos and editorial minor editorial Corrections um but uh I don't know if other people have any substantive Corrections otherwise I'd entertain a motion to approve the minutes of July 18th John I wasn't present so I probably shouldn't motion nor vote on it and I and we don't have a Forum again yeah John nor was I I was not present for that meeting unfortunately uh well uh it's a good point of order that we don't have a quorum so I will put off the uh uh minutes until the next uh uh meeting when I hope we'll have a quorum all right um but if I could say John Amy th those minutes awesome minutes extremely detailed and well written so nice job on that we won't get a chance to say that to you again will we it's one of many reasons we are very grateful to you Amy for the support you've provided us over the time you've been here I don't know what CRC would be without your having uh guided us through this process thank you Amy we are really going to miss you um the uh Grant updates Michael had told us he may join us later on in the meeting but he said there's nothing on on the grant update front so we'll pass uh on that now the appointment of a member to the offshore wind advisory committee uh this uh has been uh set up by the uh select board uh to advise the select board on impacts of off sh wind to the town of U uh Westport and uh they have requested uh uh a a uh an recommendation from the climate resilience committee uh to this uh committee um I I uh because they asked for someone and we we had uh uh didn't have a meeting until T tonight uh I gave them on a temporary basis uh Bob dal's name because I thought this was primarily an infrastructure issue but uh that was on an acting basis uh now uh it is uh before us and we we have time um I think this is not uh an advocacy issue about you know should there be offshore wind or not this is about uh how to advise the select board directly and the town the people of the Town indirectly on uh potential impacts from offshore wind uh whether they be imagine environmental impacts or economic impacts uh and uh and so um I think uh as I said I I don't think we can vote on it uh now uh and I think uh I don't know exactly who else's uh makes it up there's a member of the planning board uh which is uh uh me and there are a member select board and there's some other people on it uh but um if people want to discuss who should be on it uh let's do that and uh raise your hand Jeff Canton has his hand up first Jeff John I just wondered if you could provide any clarification on the charge for this committee that is being set up and um you know how broad is it how narrow is it um let me uh we we'll go down during the Q&A uh people may answer that during the Q&A Mike Sullivan you have your hand up yeah a couple questions John I think although I'm not sure I I think we requested as an organization The Watershed to have representation so I'm hoping that one of our folks gets to participate and I don't know if you know any more about whether or not we are included separately as a seat on that board and the other thing is I thought Bob was the interim from the planning board not from CRC uh he was the uh um interim from the CRC oh okay other any other hands up well did you do you know anything about the about the Watershed will we be will we be included as a seat uh I don't know the answer to that Amy do you know um I I do not know off top of my head I'd have to look back thank you Amy I think I think that's the one concern John that I think probably everyone has is I think it's been a little bit kind of thrown together so I'm not entirely sure who you know what what their task with Jeff's question and into kind of what direction it's supposed to go and on this call John are you appointed as the planning board member yes okay so you're already on myself I believe I have been appointed via Conservation Commission um so obviously you and I are both out of that mix is there anyone else on the call that had been appointed out from a different um commission no so just a two of us okay that's all I know as of right now for for two members so uh any other thoughts constant you wanted to discuss this do you have thoughts that you want to share um well I that was actually to um I'm not sure that was Jake that said that or whomever did but uh asking the question about um about the about the charter about the charge and if you had anything that you could read if they had provided that uh to you yet well as I understand it it I mean nothing is proposed right now um and it is to keep the town informed if there is going to be anything that would affect uh the town of Westport uh and if so uh what would uh what would the impacts be of anything that might be proposed by offshore wind and uh so this is like an early warning system for the town which I think is a very good idea to have this committee in place as that kind of an early warning system um and so I I I I think you know who knows what the impacts might be but they could take the form of environmental impacts they could also take the form of uh economic impacts uh and I don't know if they're other kind of impacts as well but there might be but that's what the purpose of uh of this uh uh committee is is to figure out what those impacts might be and inform the select board and and by informing the select board inform the the town itself uh Jeff um yeah I just looked and it looks like Mike Mike buris sent an email to the CRC on August 16th with the uh details of this um it's basically what you say John um the purpose of the committee should primarily be public education providing the select board offshore wind project updates as it pertains to Westport and discussion and prioritization of potential local benefits if Westport is able to enter into a host agreement for cabling installation uh the board emphasizes that offsh wind advocacy whether for or against is not a germine question before the committee the extent to which Westport can exercise local control is limited to Conservation Commission approvals and any potential cabling host agreement so that's that's what we have I guess Jake you have your hand up yeah and and John just to correct the record I believe I mean Phil Weinberg was on the last um I guess bom uh call they they did a call they're doing it with with partners and it was he in our last concept not this past one but probably two before expressed that in that call they are pretty confident they are doing something in Westport um so I think there probably is maybe a little bit more immediacy to you know get this committee moving forward to look at it but you know I know we've there's nothing before anyone officially but from Phil's standpoint from what he sat on there you know everyone's saying it's either a landing in New London or Westport it was pretty clear to him on that call and I don't want to speak to him but it is recorded on our Conservation Commission that there is going to be a landing in Westport now again we're in the infancy they haven't looked at a lot of things but that that's what we believe or he believes from the that bone call will happen so um I think the the committee should probably hopefully in the next month or so be obviously solidified and and you know ready to address some of these discussion points any other questions or comments uh yeah one more I'm sorry uh I think that the way you described it and people have described it uh fits with what I've uh understood in uh attending the board of selectman meetings and having discussion I think another piece of it is that it gets any sort of discussion uh about offshore wind and specifically any uh entertainment of a community host agreement um out from behind closed doors and into the public domain where people can attend these meetings and voice their concerns um which I think is really important uh piece of this whole uh committee I think that's an excellent point Constance and I assume uh this committee like the climate resilience committee uh would be you know uh would hold meetings that are publicly noticed and open to the public so you know everyone has a chance to uh find out whatever information is out there and participate in whatever discussion is is going on about that yes but I would hope that they would be iners meetings because I think that's how you get actual people to attend your meetings I think that's why we kind of have a little bit of a problem but um but yeah so I'm I'm hoping that they will be in-person meetings where people can come to uh town hall or to wherever and um yeah that's my Hope anyway yeah well I think the climate resilience committee is an outlier we may be the only public uh body that meets virtually and no one has brought up that topic about whether we should meet uh you know uh in person in town hall or town hall Annex but if someone wants to bring that up it's certainly a fair topic of discussion all right um I don't know if as I said we can't we don't have a um Sean leech has shown up Sean thanks for joining us our um um we're up to eight but we still don't have a quorum a quorum's 10 so we can't uh um yeah we still don't have the quorum to nominate someone to the select board uh we still need two more people so uh I will come back to this uh if two more people show up but um what I'd like to do is um uh move on to the next item on the agenda if that's okay I think we have a better understanding of what this is about and what our role is and uh I what I sense from the discussion is that all of us are supportive of a transparent first of all of the existence of this committee and of uh the CRC having a person on this committee uh so that uh the public is aware of uh whatever uh impacts uh Pro or con might happen from the development of offshore wind uh on the town of Westport so with that uh the next item on the uh agenda is uh presentation by Kim um with uh what she's been doing uh with young people on the issue of uh uh resilience now I think uh Kim you have some slides I I think it was 500 slides is that what you you were going to show us almost almost I'm but you're going to do it in 10 minutes right I'm going to do it in 10 minutes there are a lot of slides but I'm gonna go through them fast I think you said 10 to 15 so if I'm going I did say 10 to 15 you're right um let's see if I just I'm trying to share um can people see my screen yes I can yes you you see you see the slideshow yeah yes yep okay I'm gonna sorry it's all let me oh you are going fast so I can't I can't see any of you right now so if you have questions just please wait till the end so when I can see you I'm not sure why I don't see everyone um but before I begin I just want to thank John and the committee for giving me a chance to take some time out of your meeting to share this with you my hope is that some of the ideas the kids came up with would introduce yourself inspire you I I will I will um I'm hoping that their ideas will inspire you and you know to come up just to make you think of other creative things and then I'm hoping this could also get you thinking about other education programs that the Watershed Alliance might be able to offer that helps the climate resilience committee but to John's point I'm Kim batell I'm the education director of the Westport Watershed Alliance I've been with organization now for just over a year and a half um and shortly after I was chosen for this position I was selected as a Civics and Environmental Education change fellow by the North American Association of Environmental Education um it's a really exciting opportunity I'm one of 30 people from 14 States and 11 countries so I really had the chance to work with people around the world um and get inspired about how to incorporate Civic engagement into school programs and so my project focused on our fifth grade program now traditionally the organization has been taking kids out to the train web duns for I want to say at least 10 years probably longer and during that field trip they would learn about things on the beach they would walk through the dunes and they would do um a beach grass planting there and so I thought you know when I started at the organization I really wanted to start doing stuff related to climate education because we really weren't doing anything and so I thought since they were already doing a project during this field trip that really helps the coast to be resilient to the impacts of climate change that this would be the perfect grade to start with so in the past we only did that field trip um but now because of this Fellowship we're doing a pre- classroom visit then we have the field trip which the sessions within the field trip were changed and then I was able to incorporate Civic engagement um by including a task related to The Climate resilience committee is someone asking a question I hear voices keep keep keep going and if you're not talking mute yourself please okay everyone okay great um I just want to make sure everyone could hear me okay so before I get into the part about the committee I just want to give you a quick background about what the kids did so in the first classroom visit it focused on habitat versus ecosystem the Dune is the ecosyst the Dune as an ecosystem so they understood the non-living elements of an ecosystem are critically important in a dune area um and then we touched on weather versus climate and then of course climate change and they took a pre-test dur in that first class so weather versus climate you know they understood what weather was and when it came to climate we really stressed the fact that these are long-term weather patterns with data set of at least 30 years um and then we talked about what climate what it meant to be what climate change meant in a transition a change of those long-term weather patterns and what those the three main things that influence climate change which of course are those natural processes that we have no control over like volcanoes or the tilt of the earth also the cycle of its sun and the heat cycle that it has um and then natural processes on Earth that have been overwhelmed by human impact like cutting down forests or building on filling in Wetlands things like that and then of course those atmospheric processes um related to the um global warming and greenhouse gases um I kind of described it to them like you see in this cartoon where the gases are creating a blanket over the Earth and I did throw out some fast facts to them for example in the last bullet you see that we're now up to over 400 parts per million of um atmospheric carbon dioxide and um but really stress to them that it's not about getting those levels all the way down to where they were a long time ago it's really more important to figure out new ways to offset what we're using and to remove some of the stuff that's already there so don't worry about the numbers just think about your actions and think creatively about what those solutions could be and then when we went out to the field trip these were the stations they went to so station one was um the Dune structure and really learning about the different plant communities um where you see number two that is where they do the restoration project and now Beach Grass American Beach Grass that's normally uh grass that you see at the edges of a dune system um it helps stabilize the Dune so those other plants could grow in but if you look I don't know if you can see my cursor but the area across from where it was you can see there's huge areas of loose sand that's how this area used to be a long time ago but planting the dun grasses there help stabilize it and now the beach Heather which should be growing there is starting to fill in really nicely um and then we went down to the beach and instead of just collecting shells and talking about what was there we had two activities related to climate change um so this is that first station with Dune structure and plants this is um a couple photos of them actually planting the dune grass um and then this station was about the greenhouse gas um the greenhouse effect so basically the kids started out as Sun as light rays from the Sun entering into their Earth's atmosphere where they'd heat up they would change into heat waves and then they would try to escape out back to the outer atmosphere and if they got tagged by carbon they were stuck there and then every round we introduced um an example of something that would add carbon to the atmosphere or would take carbon out of the atmosphere and so they started to get a feel for how um the gases can build up and how that can heat up the Earth and then in the last station um this was focused on sea level rise in our coastal birds and I wanted to focus on the coastal birds because I wanted them to have a positive example um you know in our state we have these two species of concern but in our state because of the work that's been done they're numbers are doing pretty well here in some areas of their range they're endangered but because of um the borders so like the work that people are doing it's had a positive impact so I wanted to them to see that they could have a positive impact too and that they were already being change makers in their Community by just planting those grasses there and so don't let their age stop them and so then after this field trip I went back to their classroom and this is where the Civic engagement piece came in I talked to them about your committee um and I talked to them about the work that all of you are doing right now and that that you are looking for feedback on the um resilience document that you're putting together and I wanted their opinions on it I wanted their thoughts so that I could share it with you and the hopes again that it would inspire you and I told them was really clear like no ideas too silly just think creatively because even if they don't use um your ideas maybe your ideas would Inspire others um and of course we talked about what it meant to be um climate resilient and then you really need to start in your own Community which is what we're doing um so when we presented the climate resilience committee I gave them four different subcommittees and I gave them a very specific issue within each of those subcommittee so for agriculture it was how to help pollinators for the water committee it was protecting salt marshes or specific ways to help the salt marsh sparrows um Public Health was a focus on what we do about extreme heat and then public Outreach was a little bit different than the other three and they were tasked with figuring out how we could reach different age groups and so all of the kids in every classroom that they group together they were able to choose their favorite committee to serve on the ones they were most interested in they brain I went around to each table I gave them a lot of background information um and then they brainstormed together ideas then they reported it out to everyone else and then other people that weren't in their committee also had a chance to give their ideas so everyone's ideas in the class for each committee were recorded um and so I have some I'm not going to go through this but these are this is some of the background information about how um pollinators will be impacted through um through climate change and so they were tasked to come up with two things Town leadership could do and then two things people in the town including students could do to help pollinators Farmers or both and so um students suggested that town leaders could ban pesticides or limit their use make sure there's enough habitat for pollinators on town properties protect flowers don't mow them start a community garden where people can volunteer to plant trees and flowers build mobile green houses or poll ation stations that go farm to farm put bee or insect nesting boxes around town put up colorful signs around town about planting native flowers to help pollinators encourage people not to rake their leaves in the winter to protect native insects and then for Westport residents um people could stop using pesticides and fertilizers they could plant flower gardens volunteer at a farm or garden put up their own beehives or insect boxes in the yard plant flowers different times to last longer stop trying to kill bees because they have stiners um water plants to help the ecosystem and not rank yards um the extreme heat challenge was focused again on heat related issues um and we did talk to them about how different populations are impacted by that and again the same thing two things for leadership to do and two things for people to do um they suggested Town leaders could could offer more charity checkups and that's in relationship to the r program that the police are doing so I talked to them about that and so they just thought that could be expanded U teach more about climate change to all ages make a Heat bracelet which people can press if they are having trouble and it alerts Emergency Services I thought that was creative um sell types of clothes that can get cold set up a cold water station where people hike um near the head of Westport um build a public pool this was mentioned in a number of classes I feel like the kids in town here would really like a public pool um offer free bus to go to the beach uh put up public sprinklers for people and pets provide portable fans for the public put bubblers around town make beaches free for all give away sunglasses use the schools as cooling facilities during the summer when they're not in use provide a deal on air conditioners put ads in mailboxes about how to survive a heat stroke or provide transportation systems in shelter and water at bus waiting areas um they had a lot less ideas about what residents can do but they wanted people to listen to kids more um pass out or donate water for people who need it the public and students could do a fundraiser to save up for water stations and a public pool or raise money for vending machines and cooling centers um the salt marsh ch challenge was a little bit different than the last two and that they could choose to focus specifically on the issues related to Salt marshes being inundated with water and so they're dying off because they're underwater too long or they could focus on any number of different species so they I listed off examples of different groups of animals here that you can see um but then I also gave them a special handout on the salt Mar sparrow and um spoke to the group this particular subcommittee um a little bit more extensively about that and then they could choose what they wanted to focus on um but again whichever they decided two things for the town leadership and two things that people can do Town leaders um their ideas were to build up salt marshes block off the ocean from marshes with a sea wall make a water wheel that makes the water go into a deep lake or make a pipe that leads it to a deep pit dig a river like path so when the water fills to a certain point it will flow all the way back to the ocean put fines on littering so it doesn't hurt the salt marsh plant seeds at low tide to help grow the long grasses build elevated nests for The Sparrows provide areas for birds and food sources further away from the water build berries or dams plant salt marshes further back have a container with water in case the salt marsh gets dry funny um what can Westport residents do uh more field trips that allow students to help them teach about them more go to marshes more often bring more sparrows to our area make a summer camp to help volunteer to plant Marsh grasses build Nest platforms for sparrows stop using too much fertilizer um go to town meetings and then finally the last subcommittee was on community outreach um and I talked to them how there's a lot of misconceptions about climate change and we are in a community where are people who don't believe it or they may understand that climate is changing but maybe they don't believe that humans have an impact on it and so my point to them about that was that it you know they can see that the water's Rising they can see that we have more storm so they might acknowledge that there's an issue it doesn't really matter whose fault it is what matters is figuring out Solutions um to the issues that we're facing as a whole Community um and so they had to come up with ideas to reach again different age groups and also how to get them involved and oh sorry and also how to get them involved in a community service project so these are 14 ways that you could um increase the Public's understanding so newspapers around town TV radio news and advertisement Social Media Signs Billboards yard signs car Flyers build a website Town alert system adult and student classes um make use of influence influencers on social media um come up with a town song movie or video Direct Mail Town meetings um I thought this was creative to host a town climate Fair um or have a climate station or a tent at the Westport Fair um airdrop town meeting to all residents phones um and their thoughts on reaching different ages so young kids would be fun teaching videos school assembly TV ads climate projects Tik Tok video games classes songs and YouTube teens are Tik Tok YouTube social media influencers video games yards finds and TV young adults posters podcasts news Town meetings mail billboard Facebook Instagram an adults newspaper website Town meing mail ads and Target families with kids um their are ideas with ser service projects for the community would be to um build a town a town climate website write letters about climate issues to town and state leaders build pollinat Gardens um and then how to get people willing to do a service project um offer to pay Town people for projects and give out prizes based on number of hours Word of Mouth ask your friends and people around town if they can help and look at them with puppy dog eyes um show images of and write benefits of the cause label it important um promote on social media TV and billboards set up volunteer groups and offer scholarships for service so um overall I was so impressed with all the ideas they came up with in just 20 minutes um I'm hoping you're all impressed with the list of ideas and like maybe again it's inspired you um after we did this program with the kid we did a post test with them and they really showed that they were demonstrating a greater understanding of climate and climate change and also our local Dune system um so it was a great experience for me and I think it was a great experience for the kid um and I just want to um take a moment to thank um Le of Westport who um every year they've been supporting this fifth grade program and they're a sponsor of our organization um this was our new t-shirt design in the past we gave out we've always given out t-shirts but they just had examples of different shells different animals that you find on the beach but I really wanted people um show their pride and how they're helping their community so we redesigned the T-shirt this year and again Le supported it now moving forward from this I am going to be doing this whole program again um my fellowship ends at the end of this year but I'm going to continue it this program for as long as I can so if there's anybody on the committee who'd be interested in working with me to identify um maybe different topics different issues you want the kids to try to tackle I would love that um and then I was also recently um contacted by Christian Hutchinson who is the environmental science teacher at the middle school and I'm going to be meeting with him within the next couple of weeks he has 13 students in middle school and he's hoping to like build a relationship throughout the year with our organization and my immediate thought without having talking to him at all is that wow maybe there's a way for them for these kids also to get involved um in the climate resiliency issues so again if there was anyone on this committee who would want to work with me on that I would love it okay I don't know how to get back to you to stop sharing my screen let's see yeah I'm just uh Blown Away by two things one how you organized that effort and uh two the uh productivity and um amount of ideas at optimism and um from the from the students I I mean it is just uh uh it just blows me away um reactions from uh people please raise your hand and I'll call on you as fast as I can Mike yeah Mike yogman first and then Mike sullan I'm just so impressed Kim I think it was an incredible uh piece of work and I just wondered uh are any of the students first of all was this the entire fifth grade uh and uh are any of the students interested in becoming involved with this committee I noce you offered that option well that's a great question I did talked to the kids about it at the time saying you know if any of you want to come to the meeting with me like let me know the thing was our field trip kept getting pushed back we ended up doing the last program like the last week of school because of rain and everything so I never had a chance to follow up with those students but I could possibly I did learn from the fifth grade teacher that there were four girls in that grade who started a climate Club so I'm interested in connecting with those kids to see if they want to build out a more official climate club with our organization being involved in and so that could be a good group to get involved but also in high school they have an environmental science club I don't know how many kids are signed up on it this year but that would be an excellent group to get involved they're a little bit older they probably understand the issues a little bit better um and I think it would be great to have them actually involved in town a couple of us I think John and Jeff met with the uh uh the environmental science club and they had uh created a Garten behind the high school y so they're in the middle of uh they're pretty engaged it' be nice to continue that relationship yeah I agreed we helped raite the grant to get them funding for that Garden so we were involved a little bit in that too so I would like to see us somehow continue with that club Mike Sullivan yes I just wanted to say thank you to Kim she's kind she's definitely been transformational for us here at the Watershed and uh this particular effort was aimed at the fifth grade but part of her mission is to work in resilience and climate education into um all the programs that we have many people don't know our education program touches every grade in the Westport School System including the pre uh preschool kids and it uh it starts out with you know oftentimes monthly augmentation of the biology and science uh and environmental science curriculum um and it gets into the upper grades it's more field trips and it's a little bit more specific but um we have this is a sixf figure effort for us and we charged $3,000 to the Westport school system for this work so uh but I just want to say thank you to Kim she's done a great job and and she's been a great addition she's been in less than two years right Kim yep thanks M unbelievable so thank you uh well Kim you went through that um very quickly and I appreciate it I would love to get if if you have it um just the ideas at the end of the the presentation y uh that the students compiled and I can't remember how long it took them to generate that many ideas but I I'd love to be have that in writing if you could email me that because it's like you could take any one of those lines and there is a really good idea there that some people could take to a foundation or a bank and do something with and um I I was reminded when I worked in the federal government I I talked to the dean of the Virginia School of Architecture who said you know you go into a second grade and say who can sing and who can dance and everyone raises their hand you go into a graduate school and say who can sing and who can dance and nobody raises their hand that's our educational system we take a bunch of kids who think they can do anything and we turn them into people who don't think they can do anything and you know so uh what you've got at the fifth grade are a bunch of young people who know they can do anything and the amount of great ideas that came out in a short amount of time is just astounding and if we can capture that and think about who it came from these are the people who are inheriting the planet that you know my generation is uh in the process of um Wrecking and uh it it is so appropriate not only how good their ideas are but who is coming up with these ideas and so thank you very much and to Mike's point I know they're busy and you know they go on with their education uh to other things but if there is any way uh and I appreciate very much the Watershed association's commitment to this uh president Sullivan um that uh that we can institutionalize this relationship between uh the schools and this effort so that we don't just get this kind of instantaneous snapshot but somehow this can continue through Kim's work and the school's work I think this um uh this source of energy this source of good ideas this source of participation from the people who will be living with the results of do we create a resilient Westport is really important to our work so thank you Kim andk you we need to to continue and and uh not make this just a oneshot presentation or a oneoff relationship with that grade or those people but we need to figure out how this continues and that brings us to Jeff um uh and and your uh segment of the program Jeff are you ready you want to follow Kim or do you want to just beg uh to to go on next next meeting because that's a tough act to follow it is indeed and uh yeah congrats Kim on that Fellowship I a little bit familiar with that organization I'm sure that's very competitive and very prestigious of for you to have achieved that um John I'll try and go ahead and um share my screen here let's see okay can you let me know if you can see my slides yet not yet it says in mine says infinity mirror okay not sure what that is um now oh now I'm just seeing Hollywood Squares yeah so choose what when I shared mine I had to when I shared mine I had to go up top and click on the different tab up top um for it to open the section I wanted it to see I don't know if that helps you yeah okay we'll try this anything now no it's the same thing okay so I can share Chrome tab window or entire screen Amy can you be of any help I would think maybe just try the tab that's that's what I was going to suggest too and then click the tab up top that you want your presentation is on yeah I don't know why that's select a tab to share but when I click that nothing's coming up I've got my PowerPoint open um what were your options again click tab what were the other ones Home tab window or entire screen maybe window okay maybe I'll ask Amy if she has my slides you can put them up Jeff when you when you do it do you when you go Chrome tab can you see a list of the of the no that's that's the problem usually when I've done this before I I can see the open tab or the open application and do you have Jeff's I know Jeff sent you his uh presentation do you have it his presentation I do yeah I'm going to share it there's always a back plan um can you see it yes not in present not in presentation mode yet though maybe okay um I know I did this last [Music] time we got it you just need to expand it I think how do I how am I gon to do that open a new window what if you just boost the magnification does that do anything is that large enough would that suffice yeah that that may be large enough if you can advance the slides okay all right yeah just tell me when to advance the slides Roger okay so what I've tried to do here is uh you know I've gone through and spent time um over the last uh couple of months with the dra s oh that looks good with the drafts of the subcommittee reports that we have um trying to look for consistencies and and gaps between them and at the same time looking at um similar reports that other municipalities and other jurisdictions have put together in terms of uh you know reporting on climate resilience planning and uh assessment um if you go to the next slide Amy hold on this is why is this doing this all right all right I'm we're gonna have to do it this way but so um this works yeah so based on what we have and what I've seen elsewhere I think an outline of along this lines might work for us um and I'll go through each of these sections in a little bit of detail U but we'd start with an introduction um describe what's at stake you know what are our subcommittees looking at as kind of the focus areas for Westport um we need a section on how we can be impacted so this would be a kind of crosscutting section on um what are the impacts of climate change and uh describing them in in you know some level of detail um and a lot of the a lot of the subcommittee reports have tried to do this themselves I think we want to be um working from a you know a similar Baseline of information for the report as a whole so section four would have our historical and projected future exposure focusing as much as possible on the south coast and Westport um which again some of the subcomittee reports have have been able to do and then um we're going to talk about assessing the risks to Westbard so not all of these impacts are going to equally impact Westbard how do we what methodology are we going to use to assess the risks and what are the results of that risk assessment um from there we would have a section on strategies to reduce risk and build resilience and final section on goals and actions and I think um I think this is responsive to the select board or planning board I guess um charged to this Committee in terms of requesting uh an assessment of the risks for Westport some prioritization of actions and strategies that the town town and its residents could take to reduce risk and build resilience okay next slide so the introduction would provide some background on the planning board's request the formation of the committee the committee membership and um probably the next steps for the report this you know this will be a draft report to the town um I anticipate that we'll want to have and we talked about having um input on this presentation to the town Town Hall meetings um different ways of collecting Town input um you know did we did we address the right things are we prioritizing the right things and that this would lead to you know a subsequent final draft that the town could put out um the introduction could talk about resilience I think that's a phrase that people don't necessarily aren't necessarily familiar with as it as it relates to climate so we want to talk about resilience what that means um what are the steps to building res resilience and then uh you know a brief presentation of what's in the report so the next section would be next slide so what's at stake and when I looked at other reports they they refer to sectors they refer to focus areas they refer to plan elements um you know in risk assessment you would refer to these as receptors what what are the where are the impacts going to be felt uh my preference would be to to call these assets these are the things that we're trying to protect that we value um and uh along the lines of our committees they're people water agriculture infrastructure historic sites and structures and natural resources so uh we you know can probably have some discussion about what to call them but I think we have in this section a presentation of those key areas Focus areas that our subcommittees have described and we talk about you know what does that mean in Westport what is the population of Westbard the age demographics the uh the population growth a little bit um we talk about the Water Resources we talk about agriculture um and again all the subcommittee reports have have done a pretty good job of covering these these descriptive elements of of U these these Assets in Westport next slide so then you know what are the hazards that climate change uh presents um there's a number of them listed here not all of them are equally relevant for for Westport but we can go through at a high level and discuss uh you know what the science tells us and what our experience is telling us about how we can be impacted by climate change uh next slide and here's where we bring together the the kind of Baseline data and our projections for the future that we're going to use in in these assessments um we've talked about a lot of the key sources here the mass climate change assessment uh the coastal um resilience uh data set um some of the FEMA data there's a there's a bunch of others but um you know here's where we we would set our Baseline assumptions about sea level rise um flooding drought extreme heat Wildfire those kinds of things in the you know the the the projections into the future uh that we'll use in this assessment next slide so as we know not all of these impacts are going to affect Westport and its residents and its resources equally so uh I think the next step should be a discussion of of assessing the risks to Westport and the first step for that would be to create some kind of exposure map where we list the assets that we're trying to protect and we identify the hazards that would impact those and again our our SubCom subcommittee reports have have already done a lot of that um so these X's would represent the the kind of the focus areas for the rest of the report um once we've done that on the next slide we're going to see um you know this is a typical framework for assessing risks in environmental science and other domains as well where you have um on the on the xaxis the magnitude of a potential uh event or a loss and on the y- axis the probability of that loss so as you go from low probability low magnitude events uh there's a low risk and as either of those increases your risk uh goes up so risk is a function of exposure and the likelihood of uh the magnitude of that impact if there is an exposure you know in public health when I was working um on the epa's lead paint regulations for example we learned that lead paint uh affects children and adults differently and if you don't have any children living in the in the house uh the risk is much lower because the U the impacts to Children especially children under the age of six are are devastating um in terms of lead pain impacts for for adults um you know there are some impacts risk of increased blood pressure and um headaches and things like that but for for kids it's a some serious developmental impacts so um you know the risk is a function of of of the hazard that's presented and in the exposure potential um next slide I think also when we're talking about assessing risk we have to introduce the concept of vulnerability and climate vulnerability so if you are exposed uh to one of these hazards from climate change um some people may be more sensitive for example wildfires people with asthma and other uh respiratory disorders would be more sensitive to that so that would increase their vulnerability um that those two things determine the impact that that haard has on on you are an one of our assets and some some of those assets May have greater or lesser adaptive capacity um those with lesser adaptive capacity would have greater vulnerability so we I think we need to introduce this concept this is something we're dealing with under the MVP 2.0 grant program process that's going on right now um with a climate vulnerability Grant um identifying those populations and those assets that are more vulnerable next slide so once we gone through this process um we're going to have something like this where we have our assets and the hazards and we've assessed the risk of each of these so our these are just hypothetical rankings for illustration only um but you know our water water assets uh could be at high risk from coastal flooding um heat could be a low risk for that asset class Etc and I think you can see how um if we go through this process we come up with some kind of heat map sorry for the analogy there but um showing us where our highest risks are and I think this is important because all of these hazards are of a concern um but you know the town and and its people have limited resources so uh I think the town is expecting us to prioritize things and this is an exercise we can go through to get to that point um that's not to say if there is certain low hanging fruit that we can address you lower or medium Hazard risks that are there's the resilience measures we can take that uh that help in those that direction that we should shouldn't follow those but um you know I think we want some way of um looking at these risks and prioritizing them and the next slide now for each of these asset categories or these sectors uh what strategies are available to reduce risk and build resilience um there's a lot of information there's a lot of resources that we can draw from in this so um I don't know if anybody has looked at the toolkit. climate.gov website but there's a database of over a thousand adaptation resilience options that are tied to specific hazards and assets that have been developed um through climate ad a and resilience planning that has occurred throughout the United States so if we have identified a priority area and we have not yet identified strategies or we want to make sure that we're referencing strategies that others have identified we can go there and and look at those and incorporate those into our report next slide oops that's not going to show very well um uh and from there I think you know we're looking for goals and actions things that we can recommend to the town um Amy maybe you could turn that text black or something I I just tried and it won't okay sorry um I think I can read it though the you know an example would be for extreme heat a goal would be to ensure residents workers and visitors have adequate facilities to keep cool during extreme heat events um one action could be designate a town owned property as a cooling center and the second could be to provide provide residents information about uh subsidy programs for um weatherizing their home to better insulate it in in in the summer so um is there one more slide yeah which is the last one all right so with that kind of outline in mind I took a look at each of the subcommittee reports and this is a very quick and dirty assessment of kind of where we're at um I think for the the first in the third section those are going to be crosscutting and we we've got a good head start on you know describing those asset categories and um identifying the the categories of risks or hazards that they might face um I think where the gaps are right now are in uh assessing the risk some of our reports have tried some prioritization in the water report and the Health Report particularly um the other reports uh you know identifying uh hazards without doing any prioritization and I think that's probably an exercise we could um we could plan and Carry Out in order to get consistent across all of these um these asset classes and then um you know the strategies the the identification of actions we could take and goals and actions um those are you know range from very welldeveloped and defined to you know somewhat more vague and there's room for some additional detail there that we could probably we could probably beef up um so that's that's where I'm at right now um I think that you know with some additional work working with the subcommittees and I'm willing to do this we could bring everything in into a kind of consistent framework where we have similar information for each of the subcommittees um I think we have a good Baseline on um a good start on getting our climate Baseline assumptions together uh and uh you know the thing that um you know in addition to filling in some of the work maybe on the infrastructure report I think the thing that we might want to just focus on is is some of that risk assessment and prioritization uh to put some of that to the other the other subcommittee reports um what I'm anticipating is that you know we would have a report that on paper goes through everything it's not going to be the kind of slick report that I circulated for some of the other towns and that others have looked at and said wow this looks really great you know we don't have any funding for that right now and that's going to take some work um there is a MVP action grant program opening again we applied last year for one and we're well on our way to developing um an application for funding that would uh support some of our Outreach activities support a part-time climate um staff person uh for the town um we were we were steered towards the MVP 2.0 which uh we're just completing uh and that is uh hopefully going to put us in a in a better position to be eligible for an action Grant so I think we could revisit that action Grant and include in there um support to you know develop out this report into something that uh you know we'd be proud to distribute to the town and and have as our as our final report um as well as supporting some of the Outreach activities that we'll need after this report's drafted Jeff um I couple of things I I note that Michael burus has uh joined us in the chat he said he he joined us late but he he thinks what you've done is fantastic but he's got his hand up as as Michael Sullivan I just want to um say that uh I had a vision for What the how the final report would be organized and it is not at all uh like what you've come up with but I love what you have come up with it is much better than what I was thinking of much better I I love the way you've done it and um and so um I'm curious on other people's thoughts about uh you know it it involves re reconfiguring uh or reorganizing how we do this but we've got an awful lot of information uh that would get organized in slightly different ways but I think from the reader standpoint uh which is of course the way it should be organized from the reader standpoint I I think you've laid it out uh really well I have one question as you laid it out uh I don't have it right in front of me people water what we're trying to protect what are we trying to protect what a good question to start with what are we trying to protect people first right great answer do you think that property is something that should be on that list or is that inherent in one of the other categories yeah good question John obviously you know if we want to engage people we need to educate them about the risks to their property some were than others um based on their exposure um because I know in the water subcommittee we did talk about people in property uh I don't know whether it's a separate category you don't have to answer it now or whether it falls in something separate you know when you talk about wildfires and stuff like that that's you know it starts to Edge into property yeah but anyway think about that uh uh Michael Sullivan had his hand up but now it's down so I'll go to Michael your your hand all right Michael Sullivan thanks John and Jeff that's awesome I I I think it's great organization and and and it will Channel all this work into a a readable document um to go to to John's point which is something I wanted to make I think it's I think it's probably the right idea to call them call these things assets so and we remember we we started with categories and water was a category but really our report focuses on assets which are private property not infr structure but private property and natural resources and those I think if we just change water to private property and and we you know we talk about salt marsh and Neel grass and all that kinds of in the river that's all under under under natural resources that works that works perfectly um and you'll notice that the our draft report you know because we had none been done at the time and I'm you know I'm cursed with being an engineer I I have to start with a problem definition and but and that obviously can't be in every one of these sub reports it has to be in your you know in your heading or your your your opening there but I do think we need John a separate um sort of documentation process um protocol if you will to to have at least one person for each of these tenants of climate change whether it be sea level rise or whether it be um ocean currents or acidification or temperature rise and local temperature rise somebody has to be our our expert at trying to kind of follows that Subs subject because you know if you you look at the documentation that we throw around every time there's an article about anything to do with this we put it out there but really they each one of these subjects is worthy of an expert on our committee that's you know he's going to be let's say Jeff's going to be the um sea level rise guy okay he's the guy that tries to keep us informed about what the best and most likely projections are be it from the state or the newest newest uh um the newest work from some researcher but that doesn't need to be part of our report as it is in my report but I think it's something that we should do as a committee and and there could be some public facing document separate from our first draft report here that helps people understand our understanding of global warming or climate change and you know and try to bring people on board this is this is our understanding this is that we're willing to put down on a piece of paper we believe X Y and Z and um it's an Outreach effort but anyway the point is I like the way you organized it I think we need to take our report and separate it into a couple of categories of private property and natural resources to fit your format and um I think it's great very nice job Jeff thanks thanks uh Michael Michael burus we can't hear you Michael are you muted or no still can't hear you no unplug that thing maybe there's a different way we can get you I'll come back now now now we hear you we hear you oh where'd he go I think he left the meeting but I think he's going to come back on yeah can I ask a question in the me yeah so Kim we'll go to Kim batella uh while we're waiting for Michael burs Kim hi Jeff thanks for sharing that um looks like you put a he run effort into it so amazing um I had a question about how you were assessing the risk um in the impact whether it's low moderate or high like how are you going to figure that out for all of the different elements that you're challenged with in each of those different subcommittees yeah I think the the basic framework for us would be each of these hazards heat drought sea level rise um what's the likelihood in terms of it impacting Westport okay some things are going to be lower likelihood than others and then if there is an impact what is the magnitude of that imp effect and that magnitude could be number of Acres inundated it could be population affected it's going to vary but it's a combination of those two things right the the the the likelihood of the impact and then the magnitude if it happens that's the basic framework for risk assessment all that's a good question and I think to get to both yours Kim and Mike Sullivan's I think um this the way Jeff as I understand it has laid this out this is about resilience it's not about climate change it's how do we create a resilient Westport and it's so it's much more dependent on for example how do you make a evacuation Road resilient much more than arguing about what's the level of sea level rise and um so if you if you absolutely need to know how much sea level is going to rise in 25 years in order to figure out how to make the evacuation Road resilient then okay we can have that discussion but it's about resilience uh that that's the the discussion did that the the reason I let me give you some context the reason I asked that question is because I noticed on the chart um it showed that water um in relation to heat was a lowlevel issue totally hypothetical that's hypothetical that's hypothe so that's okay I should have asked that first is this just a model of what it will be or was that just I I would see that really jumped out at me so I wonder my guess is that what's going to happen is we as a committee are going to see all of these boxes and Jeff GNA walk us through saying this box what color is it and we're all gonna say this box is red or this box is yellow we're all it's generally not scientific it's going to be the consensus of this group or the sub committe themselves um yeah I mean a lot of people even scientists have troubled understanding the difference between Hazard and risk right it it it happens in you know in the field I was in um all the time we're g to look at that and we're going to based on what we've read in the report based on our own understanding of the situation in Westport we're going to say this box should be red or this box should be green got it because we're the West Porters we're the ones who are doing this we're the ones advising the select board you need to pay attention to this that's why we're making this box red gotta mik Michael burus all right I'm back I think think you can yes we can hear you great so um we are right now working on renewing the town's Hazard mitigation plan and there will be some data and mapping generated from this that I think will be um that could be informative to this initiative and also um you don't need to replicate some of some of the work um so the hazard mitigation plan is going to outline um risk to property and loss of life due to um different calamitous events so it's not necessarily all going to be weather related it would be things like you know what if a Dam breaks and then what happens um but I think there will be some data that would be helpful for this and that um we'll be able to share the the we're just going to get started with public meetings for that so that plan will be developed over the course of the next year but I just wanted to let you all know that um some some of the data that you might be looking for uh some of the local data that you might be looking for will be generated as a part of this so um just keep an eye out and if you need anything um just let me know Mike yman no we can't hear you Mike you're on mute Jeff I think that was a wonderful outline my only question is do we need to say anything about the timeline for which uh risks and which challenges to resilience are you know going to challenge Us in the next couple of years versus the next five years versus the next 10 years because it seems to me at some level the select board is going to have to make some financial decisions based on uh what's an imminent risk versus what's uh you know down the road away maybe it's a little less predictable that that's a great question yeah I agree thanks Michael um I think either explicitly or implicitly some of the subcomittee reports have um given that some consideration um it could also be part of our prioritization right like there's no there's no set formula for how we assess these risks and prioritize them so that could certainly be part of our consideration so so uh here's what I want to do because we're a little past 6:30 um Jeff what I think you've gotten so far from this group is uh tremendous endorsement for the way you've laid this out um and than F first of all thank you and congratulations because uh um at the outset I said this was an impossible task and and I I think you really came up with a very good way to organize the considerable amount of work that all the subcommittees have done in a way that puts uh the Westport resident the ultimate reader first you know you know that captures how do how is the reader going to think about this problem how do we capture the reader because the reader is going to read the first paragraph and either then go on to the second paragraph or throw it away I and and I think you've conceived of this in a way that the reader is going to go on to the second paragraph and keep reading and we're going to get get the reader and that's the most important thing in the world is you've thought about this in a way that we're going to get his or her attention and so thank you for doing that that's so important to conceive of this from the point of view of our audience um I've thought about it John and I'll give it my best shot but uh definitely I'm going to need some help and some review and uh that includes you Kim well well uh with that in mind uh I think it it is the subject of help that we now need to turn our attention to I'm gonna uh and uh Michael burus has been fantastic at identifying uh sources uh I'm going to meet with Michael Goodman who is a dean of something at UMass Dartmouth uh but he does an awful lot of work with Community engagement and we've been meaning to get together for about a year where I talked to him about how can we get UMass Dartmouth involved in the resilience effort and I saw him a week or so ago and he said John isn't it about time uh we had that cup of coffee to say how the University was going to get involved in your effort so October 1st we're having bref to talk about this uh so uh just the way that Kim is involving an educational institution um I I will see if through Mike Goodman's efforts uh you know it's the still the beginning of the year that we might get some resources through the university looking at this one of our advantages is that to my knowledge Westport is still the only Community uh in this region doing this um so um but we all also ought to um and the reason I want your list Kim is just as an example of the kind of recommendations that come out of young people in the community they're very practical they're actionable they don't necessarily cost a lot of money you know build a pollinator Garden but they they make a difference uh and it's how do you go from an idea to something that's in the ground uh and and that's what we have to do and Jeff you've laid out how that happens you know it gets to a report which then gets into a strategic plan which then goes to foundations and corporations and then gets into town budgets and then gets funded then you start to see all this actually happening so uh at any rate uh the next meeting is about you know keeping on keeping on and I think um from your stand Point Jeff it would be uh I would ask you to think about uh if this is the right outline how do we start to take take the the committee reports you've showed um which ones kind of line up nicely and which ones have a lot of red where they're missing pieces and how do we do the mashup where uh uh we start to push these things from the subcommittee reports into your outline because you have a vote of confidence that you're outline is what where we want to go and we need to start doing that now next meeting date ordinarily would be uh the third uh Thursday in November when I'm going to be in the middle of the Mississippi River so I I would hope people might okay December 5th as the next meeting date because the fourth uh Thursday in um uh November is a Thanksgiving and I think if I ask you to meet at five o'clock on Thanksgiving you're probably going to say you're doing something else uh so would December 5th be all right with the folks all right I'm I'm going to uh suggest December 5th as the next meeting at uh five o'clock and that'll be the last meeting of 2024 all right I and then I'll be in Vietnam but um okay you just let me know what I need to supply to you or Jeff in the meantime and I'll okay all right um with that is there uh uh Amy yes goodbye Amy we cannot possibly uh thank you enough for everything you've done we know you're not going too far away and uh we thank you for everything you've done for us please leave a forwarding address so that uh we can send you this report whenever it's done and um credit you for this you will be an honorary member of our committee uh and uh we hope you will be as proud of the work product as uh as we are because you have uh really been an extraordinary contributor to it and on behalf of everyone here and everyone who's not here thank you for getting us as far as we have come we are forever in your debt Amy thank you thank thank you um I will say that Somerset does not have a climate resilience committee at the moment so maybe that can be something I can introduce to my hometown well it's always good you know I wrote a book called Hometown it's always good to go to your hometown Amy and uh it's it's it's always meaningful to do that so we wish you the best and uh and we thank you for uh getting us this far Amy we we wish you the best thank you sailor say Fair Winds thanks yep all right we are adjourned