e e e all right right Mr chairman so okay Le is the purveyor of that information okay uh we have the March 26 meeting of the conservation Mission will stand flag pleas I pledge allegiance to the flag United States of America to the repblic which stands one nation under God indivisible with Li and justice for all like a second behind me you like the chorus Mr chairman for the record I'll be representing two people tonight cuz they could not make it the two East Beach lot owners okay okay uh Patricia de Ventura Noti of 1020 on East Beach Road Beach M Mr chairman for the sake of Patricia I would represent her tonight they live in Connecticut um her dad and mother utiliz 21 East Beach Road uh for their summer residence they actually actually uh in Key West right now um they have filed to over uh to grade the overwash that has come across from the storm events Mr chairman they um are on the left side of the property or rather of East Beach Road um so this would be worked within the barrier Beach and land subject to Coastal storm Flowage uh they just want to move the overwash across the parcel to allow access to the trailer um there is no beach nourishment proposed on this applic a however I will still make the condition that a sample is to provide it to this office in case they do I like to do that within the next coming years so recommendations Westport Conservation Commission should approve the request re relocate overwash materials to allow beach access to lot or rather 21 East Beach Road pending file number and the conditions for activity on East Beach sample provided to the office has to be compatible with the existing conditions Mr chairman time of year time of year restrictions uh on this case this is aect side so they would be relaxed of that but yes any questions comments motion second okay Jak Kevin thank you all in favor all right that's Chris with the clovers um that's oceans side do they have to be people have to be done by is it April 1 April 1st yeah but on the let side they could still correct right okay they're starting to the plovers are starting to get active too okay cumings Lane Corp notice of intent for cumings Lane webuild existing stone wall and the River Front FL anybody have for com Lane Jimmy see Jim come on budus I was going to wake you up don't worry about uh because of the um from D although they assigned us a number uh going to ask for continuance because of various questions DDP uh had and also so originally the intent was just to rebuild um The Case of the existing wall the EP talk about moving it Inland Christian mentioned that so that involves a whole different thing so the association that's sponsoring this is going to need to meet and discuss how they want to move forward with this so uh until they make a decision I can't update any so you're looking for want you to move to sea wall Edward DS basically comments salt Marshal alteration must be avoided as well as the face of the wall is the marsh the Wetland resource area goes through the other side so by moving and doing work on the wall you're in the salt marsh plus you're also in the edge of the resource area so they need to either move it and my concern was mean high water is extremely close and either so they may need to license this is my last comment unless they move it right and and see if if we move it now uh if we were to rebuild it where it is it's just a matter of putting Stone on existing Stone if we move it then it's going to require EX otherwise you know force will knock it over you got to put a good Ballance on the the wall all this involves additional money additional work so the association needs to meet to decide what they want to do all right four weeks Jim we meet the 16th of April yeah I was going to say it's two meetings away so that would be the best the 30th of April yeah yeah have a copy of my report cuz I added a few other things just so you have it on record okay so Mr and that would be a request for come sure because of the green cards not way the meeting no you open the hearing and now we can proceed with a continue it's correct so I'm looking for a motion to continue make a motion to continue to 4:30 second all in favor all right thanks William full 10 162 road to grade uh grade lot repl deck and this is going to be continue to the 16th 416 correct 4 16th see a motion motion to continue to 416 second second all those in favor hey I'm looking for the back though you hiding here El for Rock Beach Club notice ATT 147 Atlantic a restore Coastal Dune and beach with wash over debris from Zone Beach how you good good thank you Sean going to Mr chair I'm recuse myself Mr chairman I'm going to recuse myself from this one since I'm a member of the club thank you Bert Bert is recusing himself this Su you'll have to invite us down there b so we can check out make sure it's done correctly I never got right like every weekend you check it out he he can hear better than Jim we don't have a number we don't have comments from National Heritage I know the comments in National are pretty obvious going to Ty B after that we all know there but essentially what's happened is there were several breaches along this beach one where there was an existing path about 25t but basically in the same area what it did it blew all this material into here and into the pond uh what they're having is they scraped this into a pile where all this Cobble rewood and what they want to do is fill in these breaches with and any extra material sand that they want to put back on the beach basically all they do they're planning on planting Beach Grass again on these breaches I don't know if they'll be able to do that this year because of the Clover being April 1 that yellow circle where you say they put the pile is that the parking lot yeah there's parking lot it's an access road down here and there's a parking area in there there there's smaller piles other places but there's one main pile that they sced up into that one section that's so they just want filling these mainly these three there's another breach down here not going to worry too much about it but again the three breaches which are right opposite this TR the pond this is a 2023 photo this probably twice the size enough now the huge breach at the end they're not going to do in front of lead B is there's no uh material to do anything with well they had to they going to have to close that off cuz there's there's vehicular traffic pulling into there almost because it looks like entrance to the I mean they don't know what we went down there we don't know where the material went that blew through there we don't know if it washed back out or I know ask Mrs lead better for it she was looking to do something with hers she was right down her driveway yeah there was n much here I don't we walked down there we were looking and it wasn't we don't know where it went or we don't know if it can you for the record Mr chairman if I could just do a brief report but from for you Sean I recommend you put the thing there that you're going to fix that breach I can't I would not why are you coming in here to just fix the few little those things are minor that's that thing is pretty significant yeah that one down the end is just as significant that's where a lot of the water came into the roadway was all right just how far did the water go on that the big storms did it go across it go across over the D AC it actually went over the dunes in some areas her house was the only one that survived the 38 hurricane because there was a garage underneath it and BW the garage right out be looking for so those three breaches is just like the primary Dune yes oh yeah through just blasted through constructed well they well let's say recreated primary Doom that they did over the years correct yeah I mean their plan is to put this back and then essentially just PL Beach crash I don't know if they'll be able to do that this year at this point because April 1st is the drop de dat which is one day well those are a couple specifics that you really don't have on your plan or even in your in your explanation on the noi so I think you should be mentioning planting cuz that was one of my things that I wanted to for you guys to develop besides a beach management plan I think this beach does have submitted me just a general letter but the beach needs to develop some management plan to coordinate snow fencing to have these things implemented during the fall so that they can take the advantage of the wind and create these dunes and continue to allow them to um build up to protect the area I think I think the skirting it it's something again uh Baker's Beach was probably one of the first that came forward with a foral one but also the horse neck Beach facility the state run facility but all these uh Beach managers of these types of properties need to have those things in place I know that they do post uh signs cuz the plovers one year crossed right across Atlantic app but the young ones they almost got too much pressure and get away this beach gets very populated during the summer so it it makes the animals want to cross into the vulnerable areas but they did I don't know if they fledged but that was of the management plan we have for Beach Avenue to them and have them follow that as they could but I'm just asking for them to submit something and this may be a time that they could do it with this presentation uh available to them so we have no problem I do strongly recommend the continuance Mr chairman I'll forward my to Shan but it basically asked for that management plan um and they're starving for sand I think there is very much places that they can achieve this goal by purchasing some nourishment material but I strongly think that all breaches should be repaired because they're going to keep those open so people can access the beach and that was my last concern some of these areas acted as pathways are they going to continue to have them as be Pathways no I think they I think and this is part I think they they want strictly to go around the building I don't know if going stop people from walking Sean they for years have walked right from the parking lot across the street right this blowout is from uh she walked back and forth through here from her property well I don't know if that's where I know she does have a parcel there but that blowout I think was all on elephant rock but I'm not pointing fingers I just want the club to be aware that they have a fragile system that it needs to be managed and with the help of that snow fencing and stall during these months when you can collect sand if they would had snow fencing up I guarantee you they would have some material within that breached area already do Chris do they not do snow do they not do snow F in the winter time at all what's that do they do snow fence at all they they no they leave the place and leave the place so there is no someone managing okay in that sense and I'm not asking someone ask me on the property but installing erecting some sort of mechanism in a te fashion just to collect sand in the win and then they have that available then come spring they pull the fencing out and now they can get a machine down on the beach to spread it around I mean I think they're looking to do something cuz obviously this beach has deteriorated pretty quickly over the last 5 years has really dropped off the table as far as going from sand that's something that we've been seeing right along everywhere but I think they have a better sand Source than what others have I think it's just maybe sitting out front because it got red and pulled but not lying a lot of that fine siment did end up over the into East area yeah it's amazing that all the sand ended up over here there's not much Cobble there you walk on it you won't see fall so I mean the dock is basically on up now at this point all right so Mr chairman with Sean's applicant's recommendation as his the engineer of record I request the town continue the hearing I would I would bump this till the last meeting in April and weeks that's fine at this point you're anyway right you still state but they have the authority through their hiring a bird biologist which is one of the allowances if you have a hired bird biologist he goes there 48 hours in advance of work you can coordinate with him to allow activity so activity can be allowed on the beach afterwards but you need to have that biologist present to do that that uh first surveillance to make sure there's nothing in the area so you was the 30th it would be April 30th that's fine is that good yeah I meanless well hopefully carries may be on that time too Ed carries oh well I don't know we have you grass by I don't think so maybe we should just go plant some all right so we need to continue for the elep Rock Beach Club notice in for 147 Atlantic out actually there's no problem you right no there's no no file number at this time to continues to 4:30 motion motion continue second J Jason all [Music] fav continu is Kevin Cur yep Kevin 853 before uh Beach maintenance Kevin C did provide us the green cards Mr chairman Kevin Kur is the owner of 85 E speech Road left side right he is on the left side he is requesting to be able to manage the overwash that had washed onto his front portion of his property and grade it to uh the extent of his used area he is pending file number on this so any motion for 85 East Beach Road to perform Beach maintenance should be made pending file number uh from D we have the same same conditions Mr chairman y all right there any um there any like dilapidated sheds or anything that we should address no Mr CT is probably one of the ones that originally we pushed and he built it on a trailer yeah he has actually has a mobile shed he's a portable dock though right the dock is not anything that he is supposed to be utilizing he tried to use it and then therefore stored it on the property after he realized he couldn't just build a dock without permit so um that is something that we've been working with the with the selectman and I to make sure these people are aware uh that these things shouldn't be left behind um and we realized that with this storm um pretty significantly so um yeah so I would motion for the commission to issue approval for this uh Beach maintenance of 85 E Beach Road pending D file number and I think you made a motion Mr chairman motion to approve thank you second second that was b Jacob B all in favor oppos all right that's you yeah didn't that came in late are you oh okay all right I may have missed U Jason Cummings Lane the wall bill so yeah so they um that had to be continued because the state had comments and they have to deal with the state comments before they come back in so awesome yeah the state came back with some derogatory comments on trying to build it and that location what they uh alteration assault Marsh U must be avoided they recommended they try to move it in little more and again there is some concerns on my part for meing maybe needing a chapter 91 license because anything that touches me in high water requires that before you try to construct and I'm I'm the abing doc the other side of oh you're Mr clud son yes I'm Mr I'm yeah I'm now Mr Mr yes you are very nice to meet you to meet yes correct that was coming right up to your side um and their intent is was to build this right where it is but I think they're finding that they may need to move it Inland so in order to accomplish that they have to meet with their organization that is the homeowners association or whatever they call it yeah I've got two points in this race okay thank you all right so uh first in this oh my wow oh man that's really yeah birthday to I think I think right next to happy birthday Leon son happy birthday is you watching thee from he isn't no then resend that strike the record strike from the record all right Master division of marine fisheries Noti intend for crry neck Neel grass transplanted for Habitat restoration is uh subtitle area well as you noticed the empty audience Mr chairman they did not notify a Butters as I had suggested he said he was very uh preoccupied with other things in the department so he is shooting for a continuance to April 16th Mr chairman all right Mo continue to 46 that Jen J made motion a second Kevin Kevin all those in favor other business extensions Joel Maxwell se8 2556 57 Joel Maxwell Mr chairman has an existing order conditions he has commenced a dock construction completed that his order conditions is about to expire and he has not yet received his waterways license and they recently had denied a gentleman's license because of his order expiring 2 days before he recorded it so they are not wanting that to happen in this situation so the applicant is requesting a continuance to file number SE 02556 for 3 years uh to allow him the adequate time to obtain his waterways license do we have a do we have a a there was one it was very stuck to the others Mr chairman because it was very this that was not yeah it was there it was very it's very small and it might have got attached to something else okay got it okay it was there so this would be an extension Mr chairman again for the uh waiting for his waterways license to be issued so a motion or rather I suggest a motion for approval of this threeyear extension you have a motion any discussion approve motion from J second second from Jason from the the Westport conservation om Mission typo where mission of the bottom I was trying to find a way to work it to make it funnier but I couldn't all in favor hi okay close all right episod that's a good one that's a that's a new one for me man usually do that one all right it's all losing we're all losing ter all right bills you s yeah keep doing that do it again okay we for that like you Moxy we're good okay I'll pay for it if we have hand in the room hasn't been around in a while did you pay thank okay Christopher Capone mileage uh oh boy [Music] $23.26 mile you have a motion to pay motion to pay have have a second second all those in favor opposed all right that's that was a tough one tough crowd tonight Christ Capone the separate months she did them separately we usually do them all together but $232 to6 this is the mileage previous to the bill we just paid so looking for a motion to pay $233.6 for mileage motion to pay second that was Kevin and Jason all those in favor oppos that's 67 cents a mile now huh yeah actually one up significantly it was 65 a half I think yeah it's whatever the the rate is correct how do you do Uber when you doing I do that just to save a little extra on my vehicle yeah so s really barbecue receipt tucked in there too but you know no big deal East Bay media this is for advertising for her we have a bill for total of $246 we have a motion motion to pay have a second second Jason and J all in favor opposed going exra slow for you guys tonight I was reading the presentation as preparing I'm drinking caffeine too maybe you need more caffeine as soon as he puts color pictures in front of everybody you guys just you guys are useless everyone's yeah you can't give these guys color pictures how take you how got his pen and he was he was coloring in over the letters it's like it's like an elementary school project he's color for last meeting we have Jason Paul here B Jake and Kevin so you guys vote on this we have any changes to the 312 minutes if there are no changes we have a motion to accept motion to approve all right a second second all in favor okay who care of that so that is all we have for the um the minutes and resp and bills now we have this project site 7 72 different Road Mr chairman and members um this is the snap Grant uh that we received to design a retrofit uh storm water remediation project we chose gford Road uh just south of the Ferry Farm on the corner heading down towards Old County Road um through the project there was five sessions uh informative sessions and training sessions where we came to a design of an infiltration U mechanism which you guys see on the last section this is actually a slide presentation that is going to be uh submitted to the RFP um that I'm asking you to accept the snap program is offered to do at zero cost to the town to provide us uh consultant services and their Professional Services to bring this project to 30% uh of a conceptual plan that plan will be able to be utilizing for uh us ourselves to do it in house or to proceed out to a contract uh they also will be involved throughout the project to provide support for any needs we may have so I'm asking the town to accept their proposal um through the Conservation Commission as being the head lead in this um we are working with the land trust and the City of Fall River in a collaboration on to create this project it actually is on the city of far rers land uh so Daniel Agia participating from the city of Far River uh has been uh informed and aware of what we are requesting um so I'd like to get a motion on that the second motion to that is I would like to send a letter to the city of Fall River um and Dan agar is going to be getting me the contact information requesting their permission um to have the authority to move forward not only with implementation of this but also doing some exploratory test pits uh to determine the suitability of what we believe is a a very permeable soil uh we just have seen that there are some Granite pieces of such of an old potential building that is close to the where we wanted to do this so that is the second motion Mr chairman so is this the south side of the dam is that what this is yeah this would be if if familiar with the area there's two channels to the Westport River there was one that ran through the the mill structure which is closer towards gford Road and there's the main channel that goes closer towards Reed Road and they come together somewhere just uh souly of I'd say just the other side of this property they come together I can't think of the address what was there D It's almost like the senior center right no no no well between the senior center and the opposing on GF road that comes together right land conservation trust they all come in correct they come to one local point the was like the head downam there one point there is an old historic Dam yes in this vicinity that we also would like to bring some clarity too by removing some vegetation by making this area the land trust also has immediately adjacent to this that we're thinking of maybe incorporating some access to this side of the river and also provid iding some Scenic of this amazing Dam I mean this was all hand cut stone and it's it's pretty dramatic it's very high um but you can't see it from the road there's an Old Sawmill historically that ran I think in one location here as well as there may have been another Mill closer to the dam so with those motions we will move forward with this project that I think is beneficial to the town this can be something the highway department once they see how simple it is may be able to implement these in other areas it basically is an underground infiltration technique that allows the water to clean itself going through the Natural Earth and then having on High Times an overflow pipe in this case we're fortunate we have a Swale that drains from the coverts on the road that will be able to discharge into um so this is just not entire this will bypass the system but it also will help to remove some pluen loads um with some of the criteria it's pretty effective and this is just a solution to try to beneit benefit some areas especially this being a cold water fishery this particular area was very highly desired and the staff at snip or the people involved were very uh happy to see such a simple project cuz some of the other projects they have that are also being considered here were much more complicated so this was very fortunate for us it seems to fit all the the niches of what can help to benefit the water quality in that area and with the land trust help we hope to move these to um other areas for the commission's familiarity Westport doesn't have any storm water detention ponds they have discharge directly off most major roadways so if we can maybe Implement these in some sensitive areas giving that little cleansing it may benefit uh some of these smaller cold water Fisheries it may benefit for flood storage to a point so I I think these are something that would be on something we will be able to implement on our own price to go with this one we have here yes this is not necessarily A costly thing because of its size but we also have some donated materials from the highway department that he has in the yard like a leeching basin and some piping that will help to offset the cost so I think this would be a great thing for us to move forward and uh work with the other people and get this to fruition so Chris is this right before you go up the hill to Fair Brothers is it on the right hand side is that what you're talking about where their clear it a little bit right right Ferry Farm has their own storm water management system that Watershed Alliance is going to be working with us and the fairies to try to upgrade that facility that was paid for prior to this is just below at the bottom of the hill it gets a giant puddle on a big rain event and and everything just washes into the woods so there's two basins on either side of the road and those basins connect via a Culver to that sell so we're going to try to intercept the water as it comes down that hill and we also have land uh uses from the neighboring driveways that pitch they have maybe 150 200t driveways everything comes down onto the roadway so this is a very good area to hopefully implement this in in the footprint and again for River being uh the land owner obviously would need full support in that and from so far they seem to be willing to do that support costance it does yeah again and it looks good for all of us as far as uh working in an effort to correct ongoing uh storm water issues all right we have a motion you want to State the two motions yeah I a motion for the commission to accept and get into agreement with the snap Network um for request for proposals to design a retrofit um plans for the gford road area to a 30% designed uh status at no cost to the town motion motion to approve second second Jason Jake Jason all in favor that and the second motion Mr chairman would be to send a letter to the city of Fall River requesting their approval to move forward with this uh infiltration uh um storm water treatment on their land and in cooperation with uh the city uh to make this come to fitions okay we have motion motion to send the letter to the city for okay have a second second second all right all those in favor all right the last thing I have Mr chairman is it's open space update time um it's been 5 years since the last updating and these open space plans are very essential for funding for Grant purposes uh and applications at one of the things that is needed um I have in uh worked with Michael Baris and the planning board to seek funding from serid uh in a matching funds with serid they will provide us the expertise and some guidance in updating our open space plan to the new standards that um uh come about in the Massachusetts review process um so I'd like a motion tonight to accept working with serid uh to update the open space open space open space plan uh for the town of Westport and utilize their expertise and helping us uh to create that new plan good motion I move we move we partner with Ser to update the open space plan for West thank you br you have a second second second Kevin all in favor you have what else Mr Chris that's all I have Mr chairman no violations this week no violations and the last notice do you all I think you heard but we have town meeting on April 9th so our normal um week of meeting is going to be postponed till April 16th so if you all want to take vacations I suggest you do it from now to the 16 thank you very much did we and your stiens are in the mail did we ever get our money $30,000 yes we did Mr chairman that was deposited back into our Wetlands fund all right makes me happy Cher the only other thing I was going to bring up is um I'm not sure if it's there's much public knowledge I know it's starting to make its rounds but the vineyard Northeast allegedly is trying to come a bring cabling for a wind farm at horse Nick Beach so just so it's on the record I mean nobody has was really aware of this until about you know less than a week ago but allegedly Thursday April 18th at 5:00 or 5: to 9:00 p.m. at the Westport HIgh School cafeteria they will be inperson meeting from Vineyard wind uh discussing the cable cabling and bringing it on Shore there's they have a plan online um that if you go to the Bureau of ocean Energy Management you can find the venue Northeast plan there um that's all I'll say at this point Chris do we is there is do you you don't will there be a vote on this or is this just going to happen oh no there has to be some acceptance of this by all means from the community and um from what I'm learning now it through the state level uh the state is allowing it to come onto their State Beach which is one thing but the way to get that utility out of the community is only up the uh Route 88 Corridor and that is also State Property so that would not circumvent them from notifying this community but would it affect us in having a say in it I would say um because it does affect the community and it's in the community um but this would somehow is being proposed within that route 88 layout I do have no idea um this is kind of first coming to me but there is significant um resource areas throughout this route of this proposed activity and um would be a concern of how it it is implemented I think there's rumors and concerns about where you know where do you go when you get to 88 there's even rumors of substation being on Route 6 in Westport cuz how do you get it anywhere else well again I I really don't know where the infrastructure is to be piped to I I do know that there is other utility easements that are being upgraded to significant uh extent from braon point Power Station all the way up into dayon and and further into rovit so they're upgrading a lot of their uh utilities polls with uh specific Heights and such so I don't know that's all relative to this but I know that there are areas of our state that they were Landing these cables on and some communities have fought it um and I again I don't know where this stands in as far as the acceptance of the community the community could accept it CU it could come with a checkbook that may be helpful for other projects in the community so I don't know if that's why they're entertaining this at this time make could deal with the Devil and uh before our next meeting we don't forget to go out to vote day what is that Tuesday the night J can you repeat that April 18th at what time yeah so it's April 18th it says from 5:00 p.m. to 900 p.m. Westport HIgh School cafeteria that's the 400 Old County Road not the new schoolst uh I am finding that on the Bureau of ocean Energy Management they it's a Vineyard North project that is allegedly Landing in Westport at horse neck Beach landfall and then new Gren or is it new Gren or New London um Connecticut those are the two locations they're expecting it's actually New London and Westport is where they Landing two separate Vineyard uh wind wind field it's same project with two different Landing spots that's a big difference isn't it a little bit I think Rhode Island gave him the finger yep they were all way around Island it's going between Island and you are correct it's yeah it's right right between Block Island and the tip of Long Island right in there to New London that's a detour that's a detour that's a detour and now obviously using yeah you know you can put your blanket on top of some warm cables I think that's a long well again there was I do thank you for bringing that up there was concern I have heard of the heat relative to what these may carry and being under the ocean or where they may reside may be an influence to Habitat issues well I think that's how I don't know how they're encased or how they're buried or how deep they're buried that's a concern the research is there I mean if you run up 88 those Wetlands won't exist any of the wetlands are going under along 88 which is probably 75% of 88 when you go Northbound be it won't be there those weapons will be there I I don't know how that is true to to say it would dry the land or the ground there got to be insulated they not going that deep because if that's the case we'd get shocked when you would right I'm guessing but I think there would be measures to where that hopefully is not a case and the good thing is we're going to save the right whales by having the fast f slow down during certain Seasons oh and it has nothing to do with the soundings for the offshore wind or the boats only to do with Fales you know it's the first picture I've seen of the field that uh represents that uh Vineyard area and I didn't realize there was that many of those wind turbines in that eight proposed projects out there I know there's a bunch of them but I never saw how they were they were almost all on top of each other yeah it's a cluster I didn't realize they're that tight they're behind nant Tucket now if you look at the latest ones nant Tucket all the way over behind and nothing's been sunk in the ground the only ones that are on the ground so far Rhode Island correct uh it's off block no no the ones are if you drew that line right between Rhode is or Rhode Island and Massachusetts kind of and you went straight yep South there's like the eastern half of Cox's ledge they have about 12 bases out or already in oh the bases were there were there this were in the fall uh August yeah there was nine or 10 of them out there good fishing around them they didn't want to you get near them they would they send boats over don't worry you'll pull up a lot of dead catch so they're they're um they're now going to be restructuring the rock the removing the or relocating Rock Ledge to put near the bases of all these things because they require Rock Ledge so they're going to be pulling Rock Ledge to put in different places support they put it's Cox's ledge what you need more rock yeah that's why he shows up there so well it's cuz of that bottom coming up to the top Lobster yeah that's a good hole man I remember being out there as a young kid catching tuna so anymore see Fish you got to have four fins and three eyes four fins and three eyes and we still won't be able to catch them and then when it leaks the hydraulic flu it all come ashore well we're speaking out of turn we haven't got the whole story yet h I don't think you want those okay we have motion to adjourn motion to adjourn second favor that but that's still the