##VIDEO ID:Txcadt5wD_Y## e is his blinking low he can switch with does that mean it's low he's okay okay okay should be good underneath yeah they're all off the button underneath on the bottom underneath underneath under the base oh here there you go you have any others that are CH what's that button on top turn it mute it while oh all right should be good okay all right organizational business membership review of the eight members everybody sworn in right yep yep reorganization um and new business all so well I put that on there see new business so I think we could discuss what um Our Town Administrator is um proposing here so we going to Old business well no we're we're under organizational business and the second bullet is reorganization and then I say see new business and if you go down to new business you have this um okay the bottom the proposed reorganization yeah it's on the bottom but it can be moved up right now we have two members of the plan board M MERS of thee keep it at re e e e e e B f you know I I put this under here because of you know if we're going to move forward as a and to try to purs phe one do I have a fresh one back at least for the so yeah yeah you could take yeah got juice I'm not sure who uh yeah yeah get I'm already quiet enough yeah so I put this on the the agenda because of um obvious obvious pushed back from the town from for grant funding at The Ballot Box and at the uh the town meeting and so we if we're going to do a sewer project it's got to be done by grant money and so there are several sources of grant money and one is the mass Works Grant and uh you know you can get between what $2 and5 million for that but you need a partner and then there's the senatorial CDs and we were rejected for that last year but you might remember we do have a a million doll um CDs from um representative keing which comes with a string attached a big string that we need to have local funding of $220,000 to to use that and then there's um the this third thing is new the question not well let me just just introduce these then we can talk about them the third thing is a new $20 million I'm sorry $2 million authorization that was put in the infrastructure Bond bill that passed Beacon Hill about November 20th just before Thanksgiving and Senator Michael Rodricks um put a$2 million authorization specifically for Route 6 Water and Sewer in that authorization and so you know that's another possible Source it's not money in the bank it's not cash like the million dollar arpa it's uh something that's got a lot of strings attached but so those are the those are the three things that you know I see the mass works the CDs and then this new $2 million um earmark um in the uh in the infrastructure Bond bill so those are the three things I'd like to talk about and Mr chairman you had a comment um yeah the M on the first part when we talking about what the towns match or whatever you're calling that would be now can that be used for you know like um the commercial customers that were looking to partner with is a contribution on their end Jim yeah I mean if they did a contribution but you know you're looking at$ 200 something thousand so we probably have to go the better route um I don't know if un group can raise I you know um I know Swansea was very successful in doing exactly the same thing that we were trying to do and um I had talked to Senator Rodricks about that and and he did say he was working with them the same time he's working with us and they actually got it pushed through they've already installed manholes in the intersection after the Venus de Milo which would be a similar similar scenario as what we got got going on and they are mass Highway was getting ready to pave that intersection under a contract so they added that work into that mass Highway contract and and got it built it's they're actually working on it right now they're going to break ground and and they have a 21 million dollar sewer project which is kind of like a miror image of what we had and they will be installing that in the spring all the way up to um all the way up to the Swansea Mall to Route 118 so maybe we need a reach out to you know where Steve's going and see how we can navigate those Waters and try to not be Tangled Up in the in the in the gear as you say the strings MH um that's all I got on that so they did something similar to what we did right they went for betterments commercial they more commercials properties in that area so that whole section that's being funded by the town is being funded through vman y mhm so as we're looking you know in phase one that's what our idea was and you know I know that you're leaving us now Steve but that was your project phase one Su so if we can give us some help on how we can navigate that and keep it going I mean my thing is is the the $2 million if we could you know Mar's got some some input from some of the um businesses that you know Edgewater needs a septic so um actually one of the one a couple of the partners in there have reached out to me one of them's reached out to Mor so that's three of them with an interest and they were looking what they needed to do if they could run the sewer to where it's where it goes themselves so I mean they they were willing to to run Su main like whites did bringing it in and similar to what Swansea did with the Venus back in the day um I'd like to just add one more thing on on the Swansea deal is Swansea deal is Somerset presently doesn't have the capacity to take all of it and they're working on redoing their plant where we're we're very fortunate where for River has all the capacity and as far as infrastructure goes all we have to take care of is the infrastructure in our town which is which is Big when all these other towns are getting getting pushed with u pushed with having the upgrade SE treatment plants do does Somerset does new Beed does we don't forv is already undertaking a major renovation of their plant and we're included in all those calculations so it's kind of a win for us okay so that um you know as far as the king million doll CDs if we have to come up with 220,000 uh the betterments might be one way to go uh the other possibility would be to realize we've got 3.5 $5 million in free cash this year and we could maybe Al try to get town meeting to allocate that but you might not want to touch town meeting with a 20 foot pole I don't know but Mass works is something that um we have applied for twice got refused twice and the main reason we got refused was because we did not have a development partner working with us but we have one in the wings which is Bristol Pacific now brist Bristol Pacific um owns the two um Edgewater apartment buildings and they also own that defunct Transportation building on bordon street and that building has enough property for a third Edgewater apartment building plus a small office building and Bristol Pacific and the Carri family have owned that for I guess seven or eight years now I talked to Bob carry this afternoon and um he was at the town meeting that um voted down the Articles related to uh the Water project and he said then you know Bristol Pacific really started focusing on a couple of projects in Fair Haven um but um he does have a site plan and he said he would brush off a site plan and um you know maybe we can start talking about it um it has mass Works has to be filed in in in June the planning board files Mass Works applications and we have have six months to work with him on that if if you want to he realizes the complexities uh you know there's Zone zoning issues but um he also could go for half the project and just do the office building and of course he's very interested in the mass Works Grant and he's all you know he has explored you know private financing like the thef France family did with whites and their complex of buildings there they just struck a deal with Fall River but they're contiguous to Fall River so it was was easier for them um bordon street where the uh Transportation property is is a little bit further in but I think Bob uh Carri is very much willing to work with us he's willing to dust off his site plan and I'm encouraging him to bring it into the planning board you know with with Jim he's well aware of Jim's um um expertise in this kind of work so you're the planning board guys um so I I I think we have we have several people along the whole coridor that are very interested um well but this Mass Works Grant if we can get a couple million for Mass works with Bristol Pacific as a development partner that's what I'm thinking about now it's a baby step admittedly right we've got other people for four four more projects right in that you want to call it contract one that's fine uh in that contract one area but um you know I think we could start with with that one and so that's and and by you know carig seems Seems interested in moving forward and and maybe brushing off the site plan that he has for that property and bringing it into the planning board and seeing what you think he also mentioned something called a special permit um does the planning board issue special permits um yes so than okay so that's that's beyond my area of expertise but you were the guy so I think that's something we should explore I mean we the the cost is rly let's say $6 million um and you know look at the the pieces that are possibilities so there's there was something in the bond Bill we've got the direct Congressional spending from U representative keading we need to do some match but um and maybe the free cash could be used there and then um you know Mass works and the two and a half Mass works in the two and a half range possibilities but we've got to we've got to put together a package of job creation out of that development creation out of that so we we also have um as you know Mid City came before the select board and transferred their license um so a company Advanced uh recycling Technologies um has purchased Mid City and they are actually moving forward now with um Titan Bond was their LSP M City's LSP so Titan bonds just finished all stuff up they've moved forward and they and they g a contract with u with u citec environmental um which isn't they were Affiliated but they were not part of citec I went to CC and Jeff Souza is going to become their LSP and they're looking to uh update the whole facility and they have a very big interest in um recycling their water and being connected into the sewer system um yeah I um Manny after you talked to me about um that operation I looked up the uh the time that the new owner came before the board of Selectmen and his name is Steven basadi yes and he has been running this company for a couple of years he went out on his own but before that he had a long career with covanta and Kant owns semass yep the waste energy facility in warhound so he he he knows this area and also one of the things he wants to do with the the the dust or the soot or whatever residue is left after the waste of energy is burnt and generates electricity he can recycle that and he can mine it for minerals and whatnot and so he's well aware of this technology and he's where well aware of this area and he's um his his plant now his company now is actually in New Jersey right yes well I know he lives in New Jersey that's where yeah well his his main company now and I forget the name of I wrote it down someplace but I don't have it right in front of me is in New Jersey but he's well aware of this um you know South Coast Area and that's probably while he was able to know about mid city and uh buy it but he's um he seems like a very serious entrepreneur yes y so maybe he's on board um you know the others are um you know U Monaco Investments that bought the old uh Motel yes and renovated the 15 15 units that was there and then cost of um management you know Eddie cost and his son are interested in redeveloping I think the smaller um shopping center then you know there's um meat Works which um needs you know there needs to connect to sewer for reasons of operational efficiency because as we I think we all know they have two kinds of affluent one from from the toilet in the sink and that goes into a regular septic system but the second effluent is the cleanup water that they have to clean down or wash down the slaughter room every time they they slaughter and so that has to be physically trucked to the Fall River treatment plant at Great expense so so there's a number of um Mid City is just the the latest so with mid City's number five actually on the list of commercial developments that are a potential for for that stretch that very short stretch of Route Six and you you you also have the the cleanway property adjacent to your property which John's looked into he wants to do something with that and they're just waiting on sooning water you know I mean is that on Sanford Road it's right on road six right on the side of where where Jones is his um one of his bus Depots and you're in that phase one area m okay okay okay is capeway still there capeway what did you call it cleanway oh cleanway I'm sorry okay cleanway sold sold his business and dumpster business to wind waste and he still has the property where he operated okay okay's looking to redevelop and um is that on Sanford Road Route Six okay right on the side of those so okay but it's almost across the street from the restaurant they have like I provide is blocking okay stuff behind it okay yeah okay all righty so anyhow there's all these uh you know projects that are possible and it's so contract one is is is for economic development and it's it's not really an environmental project it's not really a Clean Water Project it's an economic development project but um you know new build can increase tax revenues and and loosen a really tight budget and so that's one of the good parts about Economic Development well I I can kind of disagree a little bit it is economic development and and that's the benefit of it but it was like when when Corin from Buzzards Bay Coalition came in it still you know by running the sewer and the water yeah we have all those other we have the public health and we have the environment sewers what's going to take care of the environment if it went to Mid City Ste the number three Pump Station put in got run off two what so so Sanford Ro on a hill and it's Gravity from Sanford road down toward Fall River but the other stretch entails that second pump station in front in front of me works right so I I don't know the lay of the land well enough Jim can you answer that question yeah so the mid City Steel in in the section west of um Route 88 would be the second Pump Station the other side the the other plant near your property would be um you would need additional pump station for that what you're referring to is the mid city uh new steel building yes no it's the yard the the yard the the Y Drive in property yeah but what happens after that so from meat works so the the the the Pump Station that was going to be like where wind water is bread and cheese right the bread and cheese Brook one but from from the how how far does gravity go out of that last Pump Station at meat works there were gravity line the gravity ends at meat works the gravity is coming from the the top of the hill running down to that pump station then that's where it ends they the state's going to cut the hill there that's getting C out that's in the blueprints spring under there that could be fun yeah maybe we should uh chair maybe maybe we should just clarify because we were talking about the mid city property might be a little confusing for people listen to us later they got two the old drive-thru and they got the new building were the one you talking about specifically or we talking about both of the mid City properties no so mid mid city um so this this step badi that is the CEO of the of the mid City Scrap right so he purchased that facility from the Gins the Gin still own the new steel and the Gins still own the um old drive steel Annex yes at the old Drive-In and that's the property that we're talking about that cleanway owns and Joe owns okay and there's another there's another um um posle rate in the beginning of that that it's leas to the electric company or something Verizon one of these companies yeah I think it's just a stag in area for the yeah but I don't know Eng it yeah but but Mario I think uh I think exploring you know with Bob Carri and and others you know what are their what are their plans are their plans likely to move forward if they could move forward with the S then we can add that to the you know the argument we would make in seeking the massw Grant and and that's as you as you know because you said in on the debriefings you know we because we didn't have a an economic development partner U even though the project itself qualified um well Bob Carri told me two things number one he was at the town meeting that rejected yep The Lending and so he and Bristol Pacific started moving toward these two projects in Fair Haven course but on the other hand he is willing to dust off the site plan that he has for Redevelopment of the old Transportation property and come in and talk we we should encourage do that that yeah well I said I I get in touch with them after the holidays open to good no they they they they want to move forward because they also own Edge Water the septic at edgewaters at its at the end they're spending I think he said 70,000 a year in maintenance on it and it's going to be replaced so that that will that's spurring them to want to redevelop the other one if they if they were actually looking is what's it going to take us to install a sewer um from Edgewater themselves to run it down the road so they are they are up for any number of options that we could we could push in their Direction they will definitely be partners with us so I think we have a partner there maybe not this year but maybe next year um sooner is better later but you know this it is also possible to do a smaller portion of the work the the first the the gravity sword to um the top of the hill and and uh the in the big pumping station so you're talking about going to the top of of of of the of the hill to the intersection of Route Six in Sanford Road yes yeah that's another option yep so it goes gravity from from the big pump station right by bordon Street yes yes there's a pitch there I was going to say this and and you could you could lay the you could lay the force Bane and everything at the same time the force Bane from the second pumping station you could do all that work but if you let's say that we came up with 4 million we couldn't get to 6 million you know just in pure grants so we didn't we didn't have to have anything riding on the taxpayers or or grants and and some commercial betterments or contributions you know it's it's possible to that would make a logical stop and that would allow um a sore extension down along the lake MH Bob can I ask you just one basic question because you you know all this and I don't and that is um betterments because last year we were confronted with a complicated formula of edus and one edu for every dwelling unit and then commercial edus were calculated as a multiple of that one edu if we were to do just a commercial betterment fee is it calcul ated differently or can it be negotiated well I guess anything is possible but we we should have a standard whatever the this the standard is reply so everyone is treated so the Swansea betterment was a commercial betterment do we know what formula they used I don't it may have been residential as well they just don't have a lot of residential well and and and and in the um Route 6 area of contract one I think there're only like what six or seven houses there's I think we should look at their town meeting on how they got this yeah okay yep okay good one of the one of the other things with this you know as we're moving forward and and not one so you're going to have a developer stop you know we'll have a move forward to get a shovel ready project and we want to be be moving forward at the same time so that cuz one of the other things when this went out the bid last time and and I had spoken to some of the guys that bid it the pump stations are a 2-year deal um to get them you know by time they order the parts and have everything there once you lock in and you're going with it it's going to take you two years to complete the pump stations so um moving you know the trunk line you know wherever you can come gravity out of it I mean moving the first Pump Station would be ideal whatever money we had we should rebuild the pump station at whs and and then we can we can seek monies the other ways get that done I mean I I think if we were to commit to build the pump station at whites and said uh you know I said Bristol Pacific was looking what was going to cost them to um to run the line from that distance to bordon Street you know most definitely if we we we left the pipe in the middle of the intersection of bord street they'd take it into where they need to go and that would get it close to the pond in the backside too so and we there may be some other options we had discussed with the previous Community um Utilities in for River director about utilizing whites pump station for a small amount of flow so it might be possible to put some gravity in you know between whites in Sanford Road and with limited connections use the existing Pump Station there now yeah for now um do they have excess capacity at that PMP station at the time they seem to think they did it's never been fully analyzed but um mhm no it's something to look at it's it's small and it's not new they didn't they upgrade it they upgraded probably about five six when they did the hotels they upgraded it you you've looked at it since then yeah yep we did the other thing just to be aware of is that the pump station is expensive to run whether you got 10 gallons going in or you got a few thousands so right if we only have a few gallons going into that pump station we would have to compensate or we would have to supplement the funding just to run that pump station so that the pump station now um whites pays 100% that pay 100% yeah it serves only their property yeah I mean I I think there's some other stuff tied in there the force M go going up um uh Sam Shapiro's property I tied that in way back in the like probably when the when wh's first put in so I know that I think there's a couple of connections you're right to tie into that force me but they I think they're pumping directly up I don't think that comes it doesn't come gravity back to why right right yeah yeah everything on that line in a meeting call you back for me so I I think it's uh it's definitely worth exploring all of these so can we determine how much capacity they have and they but they have sorry I think doing all the design work I I think uh client father has looked at that we know we know what that pumping capacity is there's limitations but if it's minimal flow it means okay y that's good I see pip in the road for the Water Project yeah Mar was all excited filled our phone up yeah I took a picture and sent it around to you take picture of the sign my that's up there that's the one that we we needed to get everybody's calling about the sign what's the sign say well said you know do not enter no the road's blocked Osborne's blocked I had to take a picture of it after everybody started calling me let me see what okay well you didn't send it to me I meant to but I okay project funded by President Joe Biden's bipartisan infrastructure law investing in America there you go look at that huh that would have been nice with your pipe over there because well where where is that is right don't Route Six or where it's right in front of the ma oh it's right right in front of the ma school again when we were in front of the town meeting we're trying to say you know how the planning boards in favor this is what this is why we W moving forward with this design because this is what we were told to get a shovel ready project yep and we did that we did well this this P project is a very rare thing it's a funded mandate I've never heard of a funded mandate well one of the one of the things um with that I I I met with um Paul furland um the director of infrastruct FL River several times on some other stuff in the city um in the last few weeks and and we've been discussing some of this stuff and one of the things he said is this you know this P regulation on the drinking water is one thing he said but what's coming down the line now is the SE distra you're going to start regulating P fast than that that's going to be a big problem that's that's and that's happen with Title 5 is you know the P septic systems what what is happening with these things they're not charged enough out so they died so I'm just kind of cycling them as I can okay yeah take mine take mine there you go okay than get us to work on anyone know they have not gotten their we're still going through that process we're hoping um we get a preliminary permit to let them do a couple more borings and uh the test pit over the aqueduct in January and then the additional permit for the rest of Route Six we're hoping we'd like to say February but um no promises on that can um so who's been working on that with mass Highway Roger Roger myself Klein Felder um we had a meeting last week with Mass Highway they finally met with us in person they met with you on Zoom every everything they like to do is through their their chaps program or what a shops program and uh they don't like to so you had something outside of shops then we did um yeah took a lot was that recorded that that meeting good question I don't know it was they set it up so they would have had to record could you could you have could you have um Roger forward me all all the comments on shops about this permit and if that meeting was recorded please forward it to me so I could review it I wouldn't have the recording but we can get the comments from shops yeah I'm sure if they reach out to mass Highway if it was on Zoom they had to record it so I'd like to get that so I can just kind of see what the what the issue is yeah we they've been working on that permid for four four or five months now and this is this is the utility access permit this is utility access permit yeah and and what's changed recently um there were two things that held it up one was the blowoff valve um I don't think they've run into that before where you're you're blowing off clean water and going into their drainage system um they're going to require a separate permit for that a drainage some type of drainage permit um so they're working on that and then the other one was um they had originally shown on the design plans that they were going to dig under the two culverts the bread and cheese is culverts about 200 feet apart that's do said you can't um you have to do directional directional drill under both um so kleinfelder um I don't know why that was because right from the every time we were talking in design it was always talking about born under that there was no way that and when I did when I spoke with dig it they told me that they had planned on doing that all along B under and it was they included that in what they were doing so but then Mass Highway Mass do wanted it in their permit um the first few times it was reviewed that was not an issue the last time it was reviewed back in October November we got comments on that um so we're scheduling we need a mass do permit to do the borings that are required by mass do for the directional drilling um has um dig had this their subcontract to look at that yet they have uh they met with Kleinfeld the Roger um the kind of go over what was required kleinfelder was originally looking um to do Direction drilling closer to the surface um but they felt the material was not good enough so they they're recommending that we go through the Bedrock which is 40 50 feet deep um so we are now in the process of working with mot to use the aqueduct um to slip line the pipe through the aqueduct it's already under those two culets um we've met with uh how far is the aquaduct under the co now I don't think it's that far under um I I don't know exactly but it's probably Mass Highway has a they do they have a design in place for that new cover already not that I'm aware of may not might be a question that we ask because I I I know they were out there surveying that um a few years back so I believe they might have something I mean did did uh also when dig had the the Bor and subcontract did they look at what was going to what they thought going under 88 would be heading towards no we don't have that yet okay so so so anyway right now we're looking at slip lining um the aqueduct which would make things pretty easy if we can do that yeah that' be great for Riv is giving us the okay to use it um so we're moving on that so when they they're going to do two ballings one on either side of the covet we already have one in the middle and they're going to do a test pit over the aqueduct and um drw a hole on the top of it and um put a camera down it just to what material is that made out I have that it's it's like concrete it's it's concrete um um it's some reinforcement but it's it's a different type of pipe there's a company in Springfield that made it um we have the specs on it if you want a copy of that I'm just curious I mean how what year was it installed you know I think the 40s not that yeah it's not it's not it is uh in in the 4S I think when they did they did repairs to the dam or when when or I should say when uh the the the dam at nooke Lake uh when when the mass doot widen route took the curve out by uh the old Lincoln Park and they made they made a bigger sweep there there was a very Street sharp angle originally and it in the new layout worked on top of the dam I think that that pipe got reconfigured in there so it's at least it's least and that stuff was in the I I saw some drawings on damage in the 38 or something like that and went through so it say probably in the early 40s question and I think it's pressure concrete pipe yeah are we uh stay with the two lane traffic did the state get the to continue their engineer work as far as I know they haven't done any additional engineering work out there we I checked a couple of months ago and there was no yeah I seen them out there maybe about uh about five weeks ago flagging allanal covers out they got orange uh yellow arrows pointed towards every one of them so I know they're definitely in progress of loc H by satellite that's why he moed it round so I know the states um the last time I spoke to her she was they call it a 25 to you know be complete she said she was waiting for uh you know suggestions for the town as far uh and St you made a comment too getting some new sidewalks up there and is that on both sides sidewalks or is that single side both sides are supposed to be adapted to do it but I think it's going to be wider heading toward Dartmouth last I know the the other side because after they had gotten the okay from the town as to what plan we were here and they made a couple of uh you know options for us whether we wanted to go down a single lane or double lane they told us uh you know Sanford road that was getting cut down and the Lincoln Park uh the White's curve is getting straight Lincoln Park is going to be straightened out and so that that was just on a regular go then we had an option rather we were going to go down to single lane or double lane and uh after had got me from the town as to what road we decided we were going to go with then they can go about getting the funds to get the job done so the last time I spoke to her was a couple of months back she was waiting on the town to give it a green light as to what direction we're going in after that she can get the engineer complete who that who is that Alisa transp States dep so so Lisa Lisa works for serent she works for the regional planning agency and they were doing a they were doing a planning a conception ual type planning uh process to see what what the town wanted and what the the residents and businesses could benefit on that but this hasn't progressed to the design process with mass do so if it was kind of a separate agency overlooking and kind of doing a conceptual of the area got gotta but they are out there doing work their flag and manho covers now but I believe they waai for some input from the town itself so yeah we haven't been asked to do anything I'll check Lisa strella again but she's usually pretty good at following up and I'm not aware of them waiting on us but it's good I'll check the bike path stuff Steve um going for a grant I don't know if I'm going to be able bike committee is tomorrow night and is also transportation meeting at cork or whatever it is in Beford so I don't know if I'm going to make it to bike but um no they got the grant with with bis's help um so but I don't think we have the final plans yet um she's going to give us more info tomorrow night so by the end of the week or by the next selectman meeting we should have more when are they looking to break round on that we don't have a set date yet um if you want well Michael if you could try email I got an email back CU I was trying to get an update today but he's out till next week I don't know if he'll be able to give you an update but he probably know better than I do on the on the Grant status he worked with uh with our bike committee to do it well my only concern with that is the infrastructure that we SE that was still looking doing that area we don't want the bike path oh no exactly that's what I've said right for the beginning especially like in front of ralco where where we've got to do something for walking from there to the corner uh once you get up to Eddie's place it widens out a little and in front of the bank there's a sidewalk but from there all the way to the corner we have to do something that's what stopped the bike path from going in the first place I wasn't going to sign off on on going to a corner with no no place to go at all because that's why Swansea put the man holes in an intersection after the Venus because they already had the contract um M how we had the contract to redo that intersection yeah and and um um they added those that section of sewer and stuff in in that pella's contract to get it in all right yeah but um Michael bars could probably get us updated if not in between when he gets back on the status we ready yeah okay sorry about that all right so going forward right we have um we have a number of different funding sources we have Opa funding we have pasas funding we have EO and we're trying to coordinate those each one of those funding sources can only be used for specific things some some can be used to tie in Services others can only be used to tie in Services if it has a pasas or maganese over the uh EPA limits so we are somewhat limited as to how we can spend the money going forward um we have 3.6 under contract right now um and we had to use the two Opa funds um in that first 3.6 but ballpark we we have about 1.5 um remaining that has not specifically been allocated but out of that 1.5 we have 250 we're putting aside for contingencies for the existing contract um we're looking or at like we're proposing to do service connections um about $300,000 water meet is $60,000 and the extension on Route 6 would be $200,000 uh the service Connections In The Water meet is um we would like to kind of put a program out we've done some preliminary work we're going to get that to you guys um on a on a letter sending to the residents in order for this to work you know the more customers that we can get tied in the better off we're going to be more sustainable the system is going to be um so if we can incentivize them to tie in within the first year um by paying for the service in the meter that may work um we can also use when I attended a meeting today with the p with d they said we can use past funding to do water testing in and uh residential and Commercial properties so if we do the water testing if they allow us to do water testing on their property um and it comes up high on the Pas or the manganese then we can use the pasas money to tie them in as well so can we can we uh how do we get that out to the people to like we should be moving forward with that like now all the people on six where this water man's going yeah it's um takes time right so so they've worked on a draft um we've been working with diot because we have to do a change order with them um and get them to agree to do the additional work uh to get them to agree to do the tie-ins um Roger's been working with them I've been working with them um we've negotiated a preliminary uh change order um any services that they do they want time and materials essentially they want a day rate as opposed to um per unit cost um and the day rate is probably going to be around $10,000 which means they could you know probably get two services in a day if they're reasonable Services um I I had I had spoke to I had spoke to them on that too on on what we could do because looking at their contract they pennied the services so when you had said that we're looking to add that to so I knew they didn't have an item really because they were just looking at what they were going to make on the main line going in and they just they penic it's kind of a kind of a tactic that they use so one of the things that he said was he could and and um our problem is we got to commit this money so that's why we want to commit it into into Dig's contract yep but what one thing he did say is he could subcontract it through him and um well we have no drain layers or anything in town I I think when you you get um the public W wanting to tie in um a mechanism we might be able to use this with a plumber like a local plumber that will pull the permit to do the job and do all the piping work and then then they could Sub sub the excavation work and it can be run through dig it and that might the residents that might help the residents like immensely like you know we have a lot of local plumbers and that they pull the permit cuz you got to work inside the house too so you need a plum so if you get a plumber you know um and he Subs the excavation you know everybody's going to have their insurance and they'll go right through dig it so that might work where we could get get these cheaper than 5,000 a piece I know that would happen you know like uh like we're looking say we're looking to do the mumber and tie the mumber in I mean you know I've I've already had couple of couple of plumbers in town say Hey how do we you know we' like to bid that job you know so and if dig get willing to work Us in that direction I think that would be a huge saving to the customers it is is difficult because we need to commit the money right so um we don't have the luxury of going out to bid but I I think have Roger asked them that because he did say that to me we we sat with them yeah their their solution or the their willingness was to um do it per day he he was willing to look at a subcontractor um if he can get a sub contractor to do the work I think that's an option and I think the plum being the subcontractor a plum would be the best just because of the other permit that we need inside the people's houses and then if it's a local guy these these residents that are already skittish you know we might be able to entice them that way so so right now we'd be looking for digit to install the service connection put it through the foundation and then the home owner would be responsible responsible for that we would pay for the meter as well the home homeowner would have to do his own Plumbing in the house no suppose they took suppose suppose we committed so there would be no way to to commit that opper money that have have a local plumber do it without going through dig it dig bringing it to the property I just think this one of the issu 000 the the opper money I had to obligate in September so we put that towards his first contract I think we should probably then concentrate on that money and on running some of these other little side streets with the main the best bank for the buck so what we're looking at right now if if we do the services we put about 360 into the services um and we extend that one section on Route Six we'd have about roughly $600,000 to do additional work and I think those numbers are conc conservative we could very easily have 800 or 900 by the time we get there um but dig is going to be looking for work relatively soon probably mid to late January um because they will have gford Road and Osborne Street done and I don't think Route Six will be ready well that's that's good so if we can you you know there there there is another potential Loop you know the the stub here in Briggs you know if we did the Sanford Briggs Loop which is a which is a big loop but you know that that brings in another you know down the Sanford Road caror there's another dense population area both directly on Sanford road but all the all the small stubs that run into Sanford and that would bring water down along you know the potential for water down along sou poer as well so in that Loop you know making that other big loop and tying it back into Briggs um that would that would create a couple of very big Loops up in the north end of town right in in the big population areas but that would cost more than 600 800,000 the other thing is I think we should in that area we should be looking at try to get some more grant money for that because we have we we've identified it in in some of the residences we've identified it in the church and we've identified it in this the state the state infrastructure Bond bill you know there's not only we should we look for money for the soil but also for water particularly if if it is a continuation of of other the spending senator rodri says it's specifically route six though he told me that personally well that's because that's phase one they want to get it they want to get it built yeah right so so what I could use from this committee um of a recommendation or some guidance as to what what would be the first option you'd look at um I think there's three I think you have East Briggs Road between Route 6 and gford Road you have East Briggs Road between gford Road and the fire station on the other side of 88 um and then you have um you know three streets around uh Greenwood which um I know all the Nam of streets I think it's uh Pleasant Street Pleasant Street Pleasant's on the other side of me um Glennwood Oak down a little but yeah it's that Glenwood neighborhood so those are probably one of those three would be ala I've already had I've had uh three people on that street already want to tie in and and one of the things about that one is so the cozy Nook bringing in from Route 6 back when they built that building 20 years ago yep and that's the location it's a dead dead end line and that's the location that we're testing out of and they they continually inconvenience them on doing the testing but I don't think it's the best location to be testing the water at the dead end um and if we Loop that into gfid when it went by so there there are three people that would tie in immediately on Zyra yeah I mean that's yeah it's not really superdense housing but it's another loop so makes sense well and and the water quality at the Nook you know I mean where you're testing you want to you want that's what you want to do you want to Loop all of them in that way so that we don't need to have a blowoff at the other end if we tied it all the way into darts we kind of eliminate the blowoff you know on the extension of the main down there so that might be another thing that we're looking at the uh you know the doing that leg to the fire station there's there's only about five or six houses in that street there um there isn't there are not many customers there brings water to the fire station which is a good thing um you know if you did that as a piece of future Loop that would make sense that would be the that would be the thought right you would start to get it closer to the area that we know we have past contamination but it's still quite a ways away it is you um East Briggs Road has the most houses but the question is how many houses are going to tie in they really should because the septics are all close there and that's on the side they'll tell you it's an issue but they don't want it to be public oh actually one person went public Gail Rodricks went public did did the test bad the war up that way test for in neighborhood well there really hasn't been much the only Wells that have had to are required to be tested are the public water supply Wells so like if you have a yeah Co Nook know doesn't have one now because they tied into the well but you have some apartment buildings you have um School schools so Church those have been tested none of the private Wells that I'm aware of they haven't reported to us anyway have been tested for pasas I know I know vusi made a statement he's got the you know down at his complex over there Wonder system but the water good it's down air Prestige Steve made a very good Park a very good point of of you know running in these small lot dense neighborhoods of getting them tied to the waters so that you know you know these these lots and and we know that there are there are still many non non-title 5 farming systems up there the lots are just too small and people's Wells are right on top of their septic systems even when they even when they install the D9 education system is still not compliant to Title 5 because they so you know I I I think there's a real Public Health Ben if it if we could get people to tie in in those those dense neighborhoods they need both sewer and lots are so small they need both yep so then you're probably looking at two areas either East Bridge Road between gfin and mot 6 or the um Greenwood type areir neighborhood you know it'd be easy if we knew that you know 15% or 50% of the houses were going to tie in right if I think what's going to happen because the people that I've talked to you know again a lot of them they can't afford they you know if the well dies they can't afford to do it anyway but they can't afford another bill and they're and they're worried but when something you know if the stop is in front of them and then they start seeing people tying in without a cost to tying in I mean if you're well pump let's go it's you know I don't know what a well pump today is but it's probably a couple Grand it is at least the well pump so you know never mind the whole new well I mean i' I've seen some up on Plymouth Boulevard so I'm charge 18,000 on a lot by the time I got a good well and and and we've also you've been working with Far River on adjusting the rates and getting lower rate all that's to the good so I mean the town has really been doing some good work in this area can I just say say something from the Gathering you know everybody's doing the best they can do I can clearly see that especially with the funding you have all but but but in reality has anyone talked directly to the state as far as uh uh are they going to mandate is to do anything because are they going to mandate what are they going to mandate us to put sewer right down the whole Route Six in other words make us pay for it how long 10 years how long we got to we got that right now there's no mandate not yet right now there's no is there limbo for what 10 years or something well it depends on the cape it depends on when they finish the cape yeah what happened in those meetings when they came to talk to us yeah so I sat through many of those meetings and the thing when they looked at us we were doing the right thing we had the integrated water plant we were doing the SE design so there that they didn't want us what was it called what did they want they they wanted you to do have a water management permit with the state which we didn't want to be hooked into that at all so when they looked at us said okay you're doing what you're supposed to do we'll see in a little while we're a little busy down the cape and we're going to come back and knock on your door and know what that's why we need a at least get try to get one contract going so we can keep them from yeah because uh at this point you know at this minute we don't have we don't have anything and and but what what I'm thinking about is is uh say like when Mike comes back with two okay that two is got to be spent along six you know and then we want to stop the water line 3/4 of the way down and then afterwards okay we we have sewer you know uh 10,000 ft and we've got water 16,000 ft you know it sounds confusing and so so what I'm thinking is is if there's any leftover money and it's got to be spend on six and it is left over continue the water line this way you can actually say yes the water Line's installed down a trunk line that that's all I'm thinking and another thing I'd like to note too is is being involved in looking at the study and everything else you know when back in the day they were talking we had to put a stand pipe and all this other stuff so now I'm looking at the reports when kleinfield come down we're actually building pressure going down we got to put relief vales so we no longer we don't have to put a stand pipe and and we're building more pressure by the time we get to the line the uh Jim the the idea of not losing the contractor you know if we have we have the money to you know to to do this and the the contractor you know finishes the work he has and looking for more work I I definitely think we should keep him going and and spend the money we have to commit the money we want to keep we want to keep him going because when he so when he bid when he bid the job there was money left on the table because he wanted the job right and and I you know like I said I had spoke to some of the other contractors that bid when the SE contract so digit told me the money he's he's loaded up with contracts down the cape now when this happen so he's he's got a ton in his hometown he's got a he's got a ton of work out that way so we do want to take advantage of cost that we have here and and and get as much of the you know I I think uh the the best thing we could do is to try to help the most people we can by running streets in the most dense areas and making those Loops okay so East brgs or do we do what open the Oakland Street area um East braks has 26 houses the Oakland Street area has 24 the the Oakland option two Oakland Loop seems to have the most houses doesn't it uh East breaks is 20 about the same 26 24 okay and the 24 one maybe you know 20 because they might be able to TI into the line so East Briggs is two more houses and $50,000 cheaper yeah so yeah East Briggs I guess are they will in Itali East we had a crew I was supposed to head out there a couple of weeks ago did that info return we did not we got the letters drawn off but we have not sent them out yet right so I think before you make any curves or or anything like that I think you should probably speak to the property owners because I've spoken to a few of them and they said they didn't want nothing to do with the water they said their water's fine I said did you test it no and they're not willing to test to do that I will say the feedback we're getting from the inspector and the contractors out there um there not an overwhelming desire to tie into the war right but if there's an incentive to do it you know when when some of them sto one of them start they they still probably believe that they're going to somehow be charged for this so and they're not you know we still we're still trying to negotiate the the rates that like in 2017 I mean one of the one of the problems we had is cuz we're probably paying three times what we needed to pay in water cuz we didn't renegotiate the contract cuz we owed the city money so we that's probably like the first thing to do is let's get that squared away so that we know what the what the water bill is going to be and then we're not we're not being charged three times what the water should be because we're not in compliance so so the question I have there is you know again between the East Briggs option and the Oakland Loop option um there's 26 homes and one of them 24 homes and the other 50 homes should we do a survey of those 50 homes to see where the interest and tying in might be stronger I don't think we're going to have time to do it yeah huh I don't think we're going to have time to do it so at the January at the January 6th meeting of the select board I'd like them to change to sign the change order now if digit is willing to push back their timeline or if the weather gets bad you know maybe we get some more time but um they they're going to be looking for work um mid to late January I think so those three houses that would tie in are they that you mentioned that's on well on Alro the one on the side of the Nook those are the people that reached out to me already I I haven't talked one of the things we I can't understand you many sometimes um is it East Briggs or Oakland either of those no not notra lives okay alra Aur is one of the ones that'll tie in right who a who's Arthur the Sign Guy you him oh does he live in Westport right there oh I've only seen him in the in oh he does okay okay so that's pretty my concern with that Jim is so that's Briggs Road man is we we you know they're not getting a lot of good feedback however so when you when you when you look at those fence neighborhoods we we know what the situation is there and it's not Title 5 compliant now when you put the water main in there now now now you have they don't have to get waivers for setbacks from septics and with there septics there so you know that might even help some some Conn to the water Elmyra is the next Road over from East Bridge right Elmyra Drive yeah there's only a couple of houses on that four five houses what there another water quality move I I think I think the just purely from the Hydraulics engineering you know doing the East Briggs you know reinforces the the loops all of that all of that the good for the way the system operates and and we're having the potential to to serve those houses whether they think they need it or not so we'll plan on moving ahead with East Briggs that that would be my vote okay okay yeah I can you want a motion I can see the mayor there we can get a motion we make a motion to move forward with the East Briggs Loop second those in favor I I so we kind of talked about this already but this is the this is the service connections it's normally the town's respons responsibility to install a main and then install a service to the property line where we put a um service valve right so we can shut off the water at that point so with our existing water line that is what the town owns that's what the town's responsible for normally from that point on once it hits the property line it's the property's owner's responsibility and it'll be their responsibility whether the town pays to install that service connection or not so we are going to um as long as it's okay with the committee we will send out um we're working on a draft now we're getting close but um a letter to the property owners saying that if they tie in within 12 months of we'll give them a specified date um and they agree to tie into the water line um then the town will install the service at this point we're looking at installing the service line into the foundation and providing the meter um they would have to get their own Plum to do the work on the inside um couple of reasons for that one is every house is PED differently um there's more liability once you get inside the house um so if if if they take ownership of that I think it's going to be better for us we may be able to if they're willing to get their property tested and it comes up with past um or manganese we may be able to provide some other incentive um we might be able to get some some additional grant money for that like yeah maybe this P stuff's coming down the now so um and then just getting back to to our existing cont we we got great prices on our existing contract they came in about 30% lower than the next bidder um so any work that we can get done under this contract we're saving some significant money right you know we may be able to do a th000 feet of roadway under this contract we're only going to be able to do 5 600 under a new contract and um so we really need to take advantage of that and if we do East Briggs we'll be doing that so you need a motion for the services yes um to work on the services up into the uh Foundation we'd be spending up to about 3 right now we allocated 360,000 for that I'll make a motion to to um use that 360,000 to um provide service into the foundation of the residents that would like to hook in second de justs Road well no this would be all along Route Six uh Osborne G not just not just yeah we're looking at about I think 94 residents now we'd be adding another 26 so maybe 130 um and then um 120 and then we I think we had about 60 businesses 50 or 60 businesses so all all those in favor that's all I have Jim just a suggestion for the future can we show we haven't really talked much about at all the whole project is the fire hydrants too can we show where those are cuz that's an improvement to the neighborhood and might help with insurance that they're we can do that you know just be good to get to the public hey look you know we need to we get we need to get more positive stuff out there even if you don't connect he might might have a savings on you even though we'd like him to connect uh now how about the town I mean you talk to our insurer also you know know again that's a good point we'll do that with the mum School we're actually getting two hydrant there we're getting one on Osborne Street and then um the fire department requested one on gford so we're going a little further south on gford to get a second hydren in and then there'll be a savings with the school as well um the cost that we'll be spending uh to pay for the water from Four Rivers is significantly less than what we're doing now to maintain that public water supply um the filtration system um the wells the tanks that that's an excellent point because one of the other things that that I spoke with um um Tony vieira's nephew at the VFW and they have a system to treat the water and he's worrying about the cost and so you've done you've done an analysis and it's going to be cheaper at the mom is probably going to be the same thing for him because there there you know if we can convince them you know we're going to we'll provide the service into them just like we're doing the residences and it's going to be cheaper for them to operate I mean just the testing alone oh I know but we got to get by that Aqueduct first the bread and cheese Brook while we still have some money before that before it halts the project because like I said I'd like to see a stub to Washington too because you got a lot of houses there that would be nice to have at least hydrants uh then you got the plaza that have food services that would help them so well this contract does bring the water in front of the VFW yeah but we got to if it doesn't kill us with the aqueduct we will get through that I mean matter how much it's going to cost you just a design issue I really think I you know when I to dig it you know he he had he had planned on boring under there so if we're slipping into an aqueduck I mean that sounds like I don't think he's gonna have much of an issue whatever it takes we just want to keep moving all right Jerry I I'd U just add a couple things here U my concern is sort of almost like town meeting uh a lot of these people have their own thoughts about about getting water or sewage uh they they listen to the rumors the rumors as We Know were not all true uh um in fact there were some very damaging things that uh people were believing uh and my concern is from what I can read and hear uh people are concerned they don't have a water bill right now they well they don't think about it unless something goes wrong uh why do I want a water bill every month or every quarter um they um uh many don't like the idea of the quality of of um for water many don't like the idea of having chemicals put in their water by a public system uh whereas their well doesn't have that my concern is that um if we don't uh educate these people to the facts not what they hear or read on social media uh I I I have a concern about uh their their willingness uh or desire to tie in to some of this and then it might make it much more difficult for us uh so I'm just wondering is there some way that we can counter the all these falsehoods uh with facts uh with someone you know who knows what they're doing and what they're talking about and uh um anyway I I don't know I'm thinking like either either a meeting uh like we held at the Maca School uh where where people would um who live in it directly uh involved would come and we we could answer them there or uh you were just talking a minute ago about well maybe you might get a um um reduction in your Insurance uh well maybe you might but could we find out a little more factually break down water bill too yeah right that that type of thing uh is there some format I'm concerned about a just a letter going out to them and they're I don't want water in the trash can anyway that that's my general concern about it well the owner of ralco came to our June meeting and said we have to put together a group of citizens who will get out there and uh you need 50 people who will go to 10 more people and get 500 people and and stuff the town meeting I mean I I just don't know whether we can do that you willing to to work with us on that he's in FLA but see the bul board behind you up there the town will pay a service L to Foundation that right there is million words right there and and none of them even know that out there and so just that shot that you see right there sent to a poster to the nearby services that will be available to them if they could get that look right there that would assure them definitely would be more and the water quality like every you know we we all grew up on well water right and we and we like our well water and you know you think about this but the uncert uncertainty of your weal at your house should be a concern the the water department in full River they they they're required to put out a report on the quality that they they they do this I don't know if they do it a couple times a year so so they're required to give it to all their customers so they give that report to us the town well we have a we have never given that report to our customers we have a water Enterprise fund we've never given that report to them no okay yeah believe we sent that out we put it in the bills we s it with the water bill a couple so I think Jerry brings up a good point right maybe we do have a meeting over at the mom but we invite the people that are AB budding the lines that we're putting in and we explain this to them and answer their questions um rather than sending them out a mailing and try to explain it in the mailing they can ask their questions um we can tell them what the approximate costs are we can tell them what the single family you know we you $500 to $800 a year depending on how much water you use um um the water that's coming into Westport from Fall River is not only tested in Fall River but it's tested by our public water supply operator a number of times a year we have to meet quality standards and if we don't we get penalized and we have to put up notices out and and we've met those standards year after year so um yeah and towns towns aren't doing this this is this is this is this is a Bigg you know benefit and we can also let them know at the meeting that they are not required to tie in this does not cost them anything but if you need to if you need to it's there right and at some point if you have to put a new septic system in it may be much cheaper to put a septic system in and tie into the town water than it is to put a septic system in meet you know maximum feasible compliance and put a well in so um you know there's there's definite benefits in if they if they never get sewer and and the water line goes there this is this is key for public health no sewer doesn't help the environment but this is key for public health which I think should be our first concern and I think having that fact sheet in of having you know the distance to fire hydrant all of that stuff if you're within 500 ft of a fire hydrant that's that's that's a regular Insurance question you know I'm just concerned about getting the facts to them and not the stuff that you're reading on social media got the cost the cost and savings of of of operating the the individuals system at the uh at the school uh I I know people I've been in people's homes in the in the harbor that that that have you know their their Wells are filled with salt water and they have you know a little under the sink desalinization PL some of them are in the basement a bigger desalinization plant and they're saying drink the water it's the most expensive drink we serve in this house yeah but but I think Manny said something pretty important especially about East brid Road the compliance and the lots are so small if you had to put it do well and a new septic it doesn't me compliance to set so it's a lucky day or lucky night that the war line will run down there at least if they're worried just about a septic system they might be able to fit it on yeah they'll be they'll still be able to do it and and cuz they can't get the set back from the well which is clear the neighbors are right on top of one is a mustard that would run down east brid Road I'd like to see it finish up Route Six this where you can actually say hey we got a a trunk finished you know the other thing too is is is is the thing about the testing for the P fast because I've never tested my well for past okay I I knew when I drove my artisian well I had manganese in it I have a filtration system in my house so I have I have a dug well on the other side of the property that we're moving forward to build the house for my daughter just had it tested it's better than my artisian well that's on the opposite side of the Bren cheese Brook this one's on this side of the Bren cheese Brook I have three abdas that have failed septics with that well and I also read the report from Mass highway on what's what's happening in in Mass highway so these past chemicals they they sink to the ledge and they sit on top of the ledge and seeping and in the report it said it's Migra into the aquifer so that's telling me I'm looking at my Doug well that just came out the well guy says I can't believe it and they did he did both my he did the the new well now he's testing this old well that was at The Farmhouse and he says I can't believe it's better than you new then you then you the new well you drove drilled six years ago so what's happening is the oif is getting contaminated so that's where our problems coming in it's just like at the harbor the well that they finally found is that type of well that's filtering through the soil so these chemicals that settle to the bottom that the forever chemicals they're there and you know there's other options to do it but this is the safest so maybe we look at that instead of the 15th maybe towards the end of January we have have a meeting out we'll see if we can arrange that we'll work with the chair and see if that's that's doable okay I think that's what I do something very important too about as far as getting down uh uh the other Briggs Road get to Santa Ro where the church has problems yes it does my brother's well is no good over there and we all got family members along that strip where they got problems too and so getting it rather from six straight up to s or taking the Briggs Loop and bring it up by a fire station and running it down that way that's good no we've got some some residents that have been in here on Route 6 and and their Wells uh 5 ft off Mass highway so we know what's in that well full salt so those people will tie in immediately I I I know a couple people once got a once got a pipe coming from the the neighbor in house cuz he owns both houses into his other house cuz he's got a well further back that's good they got problems I mean some of these people aren't talking CU they're afraid and you know once once they see it in front of them I think they we're going to have a run on it I mean Jimmy you had said that if you had a water m going by your house you'd high right in and the water changes right right I had a small filter system up until up until last year and and it took care of my well water you know but last year the water changed and now they're looking at $88,000 for a filter system you know so it's it's changing you know it doesn't take much you know you draw too much and all of a sudden pulls from a different area and it it can go from good to bad go from bad to too but I would I would I would prefer to be using something that that's being tested all the time you know like even like when you look at the VFW so they're testing when they have to test but something happens in between the church somewhere along the line have to get addressed yeah yeah it's going to be some money we haven't tested the other ones on one we haven't even talked about 177 yet so there's lots of areas that can be addressed all right we have anything else on this okay just to let Jerry know maybe uh if you want to let him know on the U the item of business we did before he got here we voted to go to want me to tell them yeah we moved to go to the selectman with the on the chart at the bottom where I'd be I'd be uh I'd be resigning Manny would be the selectman rep and then we'd bring in Evan almeer from the back he's on the highway department uh as at large that's what they're going to go to the selectman to vote for so I'll probably resign once the selectman Jim um say they want to go with this plan then I'll resign if uh if for some reason they don't want to we'll have to figure it out okay that's the game plan Jerry okay you ready for a motion to Journey you got more did we hit that other thing we have new business okay so engineer yeah uh are we going to just rely on the letter to go out or we going to try to do something I think we do you want to go knocking on doors Jerry I think we're going to try and set up a meeting we'll try and do a meeting January I didn't hear I think meeting would be the best idea we should go for that so before we adjourn I just want to clear I think that's so and and I I'd like to make a motion um to put forward to the select board to um post the town engineer position that in town meeting um we had set aside money for the town engineer's position and um I think we should probably have it written up as um that position to be called the director of public infrastructure um the amount of money that we had there I think if we put it that way we could attract a um somebody that doesn't necessarily have to be a PE but is is qualified for that type of position and um we you know some of the neighboring communities have done the same thing it's like like for of his town engineer um he's not a PE but he's fully qualified and and um that's the way that was set up you know um he's as the Director of public infrastructure um so I'd like to make a motion to um request that the selectman Phil um or post the position of town engineer that the money was set aside in the last town meeting second is there some reason we need to do that why we just don't do it as selectman I think he may push you along the select M yeah all right I CU I thought we were ready to go with it I didn't know what what the thing was okay I mean I I have no problem with that y all those in favor I I six to nothing be before we adjourn if you're if you're not going to be at another meeting and uh I just wanted to uh you know just personally but I think it is a sense of the committee to thank you for your leadership over the last three years thanks I appreciate three years well I think it's 27 no he's talking about this committee this committee this committee and of course you're working yeah well I I'll speak for myself because I've worked with Steve wette for 20 years going back to 2004 when he recruited me for the economic development task force and so for me personally this is kind of an end of an eror because you've been promoted you've been promoted to our state rep for the eth Bristol District to succeed Paul Schmidt and I congratulate you for that and I also thank you for the 20 years that I've worked with you thanks I appreciate it and just so you guys know going forward too I um I'll be pushing in Boston for what the town pushes forward I'm not going to be my own little vigilante you guys have to forward it to me cuz to sell it we have to show we've got the town supporting it uh for those of you who don't know Bob I think you're in town all the time you know we got all the money for a sidewalk right here and then we ended up looking foolish because we had to give the money back so definitely the more support you can get from the town I know we got a selling point I know Jerry mentioned it but that's how I can fight for it um good part in Boston have to sell it to 160 and you know who's there it's not like town meeting you can talk to everybody might have to help with with somebody else's bill but you know I can bargain but but everybody's going to say there's the town behind you because you know they don't want to look foolish so just so you guys know you've been doing good we we just voted on a bunch of letters to go forward so I think you know what you're doing so let's just keep plugging move plus the the the South witha now you're both you're both sides of it so but like I say you need to push the letter because if I go on my own and we can't be looking foolish so I need to say hey the town's behind me Michael back it and uh we'll go we'll do what we can do so we need a motion to adjourn all moved second all those in favor I