##VIDEO ID:ValiGIhb37E## e e e e e e e 10c is the uh an agreement to transfer a public road this is Waters Road this is going to be down south of um it's kind of Southwest portion of town off of County Road 653 um it is a unpaved county RightWay uh you can see it there on your screen so you can see off to the far left County Road 653 as it heads South past South Point Elementary and makes that turn back to the east this is located within the uh Reserve at Lake Parker subdivision um which is a a development that's been approved by the city commission and so when that is completed Waters Road will be reconstructed and become one of the internal streets within that subdivision so hence the the need to transfer that into the city okay and then Police Department is purchasing five vehicles that's another straightforward as well yep and that is that includes funding that comes from our vehicle replacement reserves and where they were going to be short they had anticipated that and included additional funds in the 25 budget to make that purchase all right and 10e 10e is an agreement with wsp this is for and several I'm going to say months maybe even a few years back we talked about having some Grant assistance to go after Grant dollars that are out there for a lot of our projects um this is an agreement with wsp to do somewhat of an uh a grant environment scan for us as they understand the projects that we have in the queue they will um use their resources and and uh capacities to help identify grants that are suitable beyond our general knowledge for advancing some of our projects and then it also includes uh options for grant writing and development so find those grants if they if they seem to fit and they seem to be you know juice being worth a squeeze then there's an option for us to engage them for grant writing services and Grant Management Services and when we're dealing with some of these large grants the management side becomes one of the most uh challenging pieces of it the total cost if we engage for all three of these is around $230,000 that would be over two fiscal years of FIS the current one we're in as well as 2526 that initial phase of looking just at what that's scan provides for in task one is about $71,200 the expectation is that the um getting those grants we're talking grants in the in the millions of dollars of range so hence the investment to to be very professional and proactive and going after those okay 10f 10f is um this is kind of a cool project and AJ do we have a picture of this so we're we're doing some uh you know routine cosmetic improvements to our our water uh groundwater storage tanks at some of our facilities as you've traveled around I'm sure you've seen in other communities ground storage water tanks being logoed um so I asked Gary and his team to take a look at what options we had for that getting away from that traditional brown tannish colored looking ground gsts going more with a a white and blue trim that matches our city kind of image and putting our one water logo on there to further educate and promote what we're doing in the one water area so much like we paint logos and the like on water towers this is on our groundw storage tanks okay can I ask a quick question yes would it be super difficult to create a a QR code next to the logo on these so like if somebody's driving by and they wanted to scan it they could link themselves to to what's going on with one water like they actually have a spot to go check it out um I don't know that it would be difficult I think let us look into that I wouldn't have somebody paint that because you deal with QR codes the complexity of that image you know the least thing that's off in the in the actual painting of that could make it unusable um but let us look at that and see if there's sense in doing that a caution I would have is if somebody's driving by one of our water storage tanks and holding on a phone to try and get a picture you know it's kind of like equivalent to texting on the road so I know what you want to accomplish let's see if what's the best way for us to do that would be uh you might want to check security issues on that too from um as you know that they are very protected the water and waste water since um we've had such issues um security issues with it and and it is um under Federal Protection I would check that okay and then the 10g this is kind of a unique effort for local government to be involved in some institutional research and development efforts um this is an effort to address hydrogen sulfide gas within our water system so hydrogen sulfide occurs naturally uh within the water that we're we're drawing out of the ground we use an Iration system a tray Iration system that you see on a lot of our groundwater storage tanks to diffuse that that hydrogen sulfide into the atmosphere that's usually when you have a a rotten egg smell um that's what you're dealing with it it it's it's the hydrogen sulfide that comes out of that so Gary and his team have worked with um some professors uh at Florida poly Technic University who are interested in in studying this and see if there's alternative approaches to mitigating hydrogen sulfide it's not just an issue of the odor that it produces but it can also have some long-term impacts uh some corrosive impacts on the infrastructure itself so utilizing uh perhaps an activated carbon uh uh cartridge system to help mitigate that and and remove that from the process so this is something that they would study specifically our Fairfax plant and it may be uh we're hoping to yield improvements that we can apply to all of our water treatment plants and realistically this is good for the industry that it may provide some insights into alternative ways that other water utility providers can address the same thing all right pretty creative if I do say say say so myself on behalf of our utilities team okay and then we have resolution 11a so 11 uh a is is resolution 2451 this is was bring being brought forward at the request of the city commission this deals with the fluoridation of our water supply so I think two meetings ago it was brought up in response to the court ruling that came out of the US District Court in Northern California um that Express concerns regarding the fluoridation of the public water supply so we have gone back and researched how that came to be in Winter Haven it goes back to 1986 when the city commission at that time uh opted to to fluoridate our water there is no regulation requiring us to do that whether at the federal or state level um it is simply at the election of the governing body and so we're bringing that back for consideration and direction from the city commission if you're so inclined as to uh put a stop to the fluoridation of our our water system the resolution is designed to allow for that uh cost us about $48,000 a year for the fluoride to uh to you know Implement that practice which we've done now for close to 40 years 28 or 38 years now I guess it is um so we're just looking for some direction and give the commission an opportunity to discuss that I did circulate hopefully you all saw it I did receive one email from a citizen who would not be able to attend but wanted to express their um their position on it so that went out to you all as an email yesterday so that should be in your INX that would you resend that to me I will do so yes sir I did not see so uh ke what are the other municipalities are we um count Gary can you speak to that you I don't know if you have the information handy with you there there's it's kind of a split within P County some do some don't um and I think you know if well Gary's getting his information ready I'll tell you the uh what came out of this ruling in in Northern California was you know what are the potential um harms that can come from fluoridation of water and so their their ruling basically puts it back into epa's court to go back and look at this and provide further guidance on on floration that there was there was enough concern to Warrant that ruling so EPA has not given any clar ation or further Direction I can tell you that there is a maximum threshold or maximum amount of fluoride that you can have within your water you have a percentage of that that happens naturally within our water system that we draw here in Florida and then we're adding additional fluoride to it to meet that level so Gary you want to add into that please yes uh good evening Mr Mayor Commissioners so we did uh PLL our neighboring utilities to determine who was doing what um City of Lakeland does add fluide Lake Alfred Plant City Heen City and auale those that do not pulk County City of Davenport town of dunde city of mberry City of Lake Wales PK City Fort me Lake Hamilton and Village of Highland Park are not adding fluoride okay all right Gary do you have any um data Pro or con against this that I mean I've read all I've read a bunch of stuff that people have sent me and it's all pretty negative I know there's positives but I haven't seen that do you have like benefits of having this in the in the water or I I mean the negatives seem to be pretty overwhelming but I know there's positives too and yeah so I think the you have to look back at how this all started and back in the you know 30s 40s and 50s you know we didn't have the toothpaste that we have today we didn't have the the mouthwashes that we have today um and quite frankly most people didn't go to the dentist very often so um it was basically an ass by the community to add fluoride to strengthen teeth since that time um you know most of our products nowaday uh especially toothpaste contains some fluoride uh people are going to the dentist more often um and getting fluoride treatments there so the the need for fluoride in drinking water has diminished I will put it that way but so you can't Point anything positive other than the fact that tooth tooth decay but I mean it has to be on the tooth that's what I keep going back too and when you take a sip of water and brush your teeth in it it's not on there very long right cuz my dentist said to really do it you got to put like gel on your teeth and let it sit there for a while right to really get it to where it sinks in I guess I don't understand the technicalities I I think though that when you know fluoride was first being used it did help the general popul a with tooth decay MH of course you know as time goes on we learn more and more and get more sophisticated with you know how we handle some of these issues right and I M commissioner dcer I would I'd hesitate from my seat or from any of the the staff seat to try and weigh in from the the medical benefits of it I think that that goes back to you know what is the what is the dental Community feel about that and the Health Community um and it's it's really there's there's no real guidance there's there's no requirement for it there's no requirement to stop doing it it really just rests based upon what the public sentiment is and how the elected body you know responds to that is is it is it desired and within the community and needed um I don't know that that there's any clear data that would speak to Winter Haven specifically or even P County for that matter based upon the fact that you only have again five or six of the Municipal Water providers that are that are fluoridating water now well I'll tell you I have seen a lot of data that says it's bad because I'm a sympathetic year I I know that that's why I brought this up but and I'm not seeing a whole lot there where it's beneficial that's why I brought this whole thing up Gary and I'm just trying to do what's right but I've read a lot of stuff that says it's kind of bad for when it gets in your system when it gets in your stomach at at the higher levels yes there there can be some problems okay all right that's good I know we'll is there anything that triggers review of anything relative to uh what we put in water uh I mean we've been doing this for all these years uh apparently it's just become customary though the thing that we do and there has been no review except the fact that you know it's been mentioned here that well we had citizen come in and had concerns about it and uh then commissioner basically brought it up so is there anything that would trigger that cuz you know you don't want you do something for so long and it's just become pretty much habitual or the habit or what we do but where is the science and and you know have things change do we review that to say that this is no longer uh helpful or you know uh beneficial to the citizens particularly when you think about putting something in the water that impacts all of our lives I'm I'm not you know I'm question you rather to to that I'm just saying in terms of just review of Just How We Do when you're looking at what we put in water you because we have other chemicals and things that go in there as well this is one thing that we're talking about but I'm talking about anything we put in there that may have any impact so that's all governed by the Environmental Protection Agency they establish standards for all the the uh Public Water Systems across the United States um there are um maximum limits of fluoride in water um out in the the West fluoride is a natural occurring element and in some locations they actually have to remove fluoride from the water because it exceeds those limits that limit is 4 milligram per liter here in in our area we we have fluoride naturally occurring in our water also but it's about 2 maybe two25 maybe3 MGR per liter and the recommended dosage is7 is is what EPA is recommending if you're adding fluoride so and i' like to expand on that and Jerry's spot on that you know EPA is going to dictate you know what are the what are the levels of minerals and and other things within your water system and and contaminants and all that it's all highly regulated I think practice-wise um you know our water utility certainly is engaged with American Waterworks Association and countless other agencies that were always looking at what are the best management practices um in in how to meet those EPA regulations this is a little unique on fluoridation because you've recently had some some citizen feedback on floration um and that occurred coincidentally just ahead of a Court ruling that came out of this California case so it's it's um that's kind of what drove it in this case of okay wait a minute now you have a court ruling that's saying EPA you need to go back and look at this and see what are the what are the harmful effects of this and revisit your guidance in your regulations and so that's what's been issued back and I think that that is what more than anything has prompted um the action that that we're presenting before you is it's not I mean certainly we're were empathetic in in listening to the concerns of residents and weighing that against you know what we're doing this takes that even a step further than you have a court that's saying okay EPA you need to go back and look at this and issue further guidance on it they have not done that as of yet but that Court ruling would suggest that there's a need to to revisit the entire floration regulation have you or John read that Court ruling I wonder if any highlights we could see yeah send us some an executive version I'm sure it's rather long sure yeah I can really quick summarize it the toxic substances act the federal act requires certain review to be done whenever there's evidence that may illustrate that a subject item needs to be regulated uh the petitioners actually filed that evidence with the EPA the EPA said it didn't meet standard in order to invoke their ability to initiate regulation under the act so they sued in Federal District Court The District Court without saying whether fluide was good or bad said there's enough evidence that's been presented that the EPA does need to initiate rule making so that that's the only ruling that's been held so far to date um we still don't have any guidance from the federal government about what it should be other than what Gary mentioned the maximum amount of the fluoride as a contaminant that can be found in your water supply so there's nothing in this ruin that would help us in our deliberations as you can see not today not today unfortunately and and from the legal perspective you know it it truly is do you see the benefit and want to add it do you think that it's a detriment and want to remove it I mean it's really your your call okay all right I mean I I think the CDC recommends it but they don't require it correct and I think anything that was enacted in 1945 probably stands to reason do you really need to have that today just like daylight savings time don't need that anymore agree voters have to get rid of it it's still here so I think here's an opportunity where we can requesting that we bring a resolution on daylight savings time we the vote the state of State of Florida already voted on it and passed it and the federal government hasn't done anything with it but that's another point but but I think you know in 1945 they could see the reasons and the benefit and they saw the decline and tooth decay but you know there's a lot more availability to resources today than there was in 1945 and I think you know it's probably past time to to take a look at this and you you know whether it truly benefits or not I I kind of stand with commissioner danler I mean if I'm drinking water it's it's a it's a quick drink and it's it's not hitting the teeth but a a split second so um but anyways that's my two cents on it what else I think it it really was a benefit to uh those on the lower social economic spectrum that's one of the efforts that was uh Target targeting uh many years ago as well uh to help you know uh people who could not did not have access to uh certain um you know things that would give them a better outcome as it relates to their uh their uh uh dental hygiene um as I mentioned I grew up in a city that uh fluide had fluoride for many many years um whether there's any correlation or not but uh I still have all my teeth thank God and uh and so it's uh I'm not sure I I didn't hear anything that tells me that it is you know uh something that we should have we hear the negative side of it but nothing that speaks to the current situation that it would benefit or is a benefit to uh to anyone all right question NOP thanks thank G thank you thank you Gary we have an ordinance first reading 024 49 so 49 and 50 this pertains to the ABC um uh Fine Wines and spirit store that is located on Cypress Gardens Boulevard that parcel or that store was developed in 1975 this was annexed into the City of Winter Haven in April of 2024 and so this is the assignment of land use and Zoning uh for an annexed property there's it's already developed so there's no additional demands on infrastructure um and the petitioner does not plan to make any alterations to the existing store so it's really it's annexed in we need to assign land use and Zoning okay and so 50 is dealing with the uh zoning so that is correct 51 51 this is going to be out off of winter Lake Road area this is Cypress South East LLC they're requesting neighborhood support future land use uh and Comm commercial commercial Highway C3 zoning to this annexed parcel this was annexed in May of 2024 so this is if you're heading out from um US 17 winter Lake Road uh kind of give you a general idea of where this area is um is it intersects with Recker Highway they intend to develop this property with a multi-unit commercial building for small businesses it's a relatively small site 1.19 Acres so the most that they'd be able to develop there would be just shy of 13,000 square feet um this did go to the Planning Commission and they had it was heard uh October 1st they had two people that spoke uh at that meeting with questions related to required landscape buffering and any potential drainage issues um so staff's recommending that the city commission consider this on first reading for land use and Zoning okay okay and then the next one just deals with the zoning so yes sir we we we assigned to that North Parcel there I remember that that came before us what what is that has there anything ever happened with that partiel there Eric I think that's a subdivision it's to come it's under construction right now yeah how many units was that I don't recall I have to go back and look but it's single family um I want to say it was Town Homes but I'll go I can go back and get the the detail for you all right yes thanks all right uh 12E 12E this is a annexation request um ordinance 2455 uh this is uh Reggie Whitehead ER Whitehead uh requesting annexation of this parcel it's 8.64 plus or minus Acres it's located right at the intersection of Sage Road and dundy road or State Road 542 he's seeking annexation for the purpose of obtaining City Utilities for future development although there's no designation or or uh communication on what that future development may or may not be um so just standard annexation on this one Mr Mayor yes quick question um Eric or te I just want to make sure that that we are are reserving enough right away to widen that road and PVE it do a that that's clearly that's comes at a later dat right yep and our code requires that when they come in for development they'll have to dedicate right away to us to make it a standard roadway yes sir there there's no way we can tag a conditional requirement to that now cuz I know at one time the the owner of that property was said you know absolutely you know if you you need additional property to expand the road I'm I'm all for it but you know as values and land changes I don't want us to get trapped into well yeah now we need this sliver and it's going to cost us $10 million right at the uh at the annexation stage there's no real way to legally Force somebody to to uh give right away um but like I said our code does require it so when they do come in to develop the property they will have to to dedicate it to us and and that's a dedication that's we don't have to buy it all right anyone else all right we have one new business item 13A yeah this is a rather exciting um piece to present to you this evening Commissioners this is pertaining to Chanel Lakes Park Phase 2 so go back 2023 the city awarded a sear contract to ro a construction um in in order to meet some of the time frames and and deadlines that we had established with P County the commission had authorized me to in June of this year to begin issuing multiple purchase orders not to exceed 17 million as portions of that project were ready for construction that project is fully under construction I had a privilege to to to drive through that today with the uh the contractor and see how those fields are being built it is absolutely amazing what's happening down there and I think it's going to be a showcase facility for not just Winter Haven but any athlete that comes here and gets to play on those is going to be an awe um what's that it'll be iconic it'll be I there thank you it'll be iconic um so today we've issued about 1536 million in incremental construction packages towards that project we finished getting all the bids in for the various components of that project this summer um and so those have been been processed through R is the semar and they have issued to us a final guaranteed maximum price so that GMP includes the four artificial cient side artificial turf collegiate baseball fields the fan spectator areas The Pavilions all the site drainage and utility work including a new lift station that Services Park Lake and some of those areas to the east the common areas parking both paved and unpaved um fencing the they paved perimeter trail system the L the Landscaping the vertical improvements which are the restroom concession building and the official uh Team rooms the maintenance building and some of the other support on site so we expect the fields to be ready and playable by February of 2025 they will begin putting down AST turf or artificial turf on one of those fields look at Andy tomorrow or Friday it was supposed to be delivered today this weather may have screwed them up a little bit but they are they will put the turf down on the first field and they're moving to the next field and so it is it's kicking along uh rather nicely um the the buildings will not be ready in February so those won't come online until probably sometime next summer uh so when Russ matat and some of those early tournaments come in we'll have to use some temporary facilities to help accommodate them we have budgeted or programmed for this project uh $24.64 million um R's guaranteed maximum price is $ 24,2 47 we do have some design fees that also have to come out of the budget uh but right now we're looking at about a a balance or yeah a balance after the GMP of just shy of $150,000 that we retain his contingency for this project but we are within budget to deliver it um one other piece that I want to point out and what we're recommending is that the commission authorize uh me to sign and authorize the final GMP Amendment for the project at $ 24,2 47 and the overall project budget of $2,196 the other thing I want to point out we just had a discussion this afternoon on this we'll also be bringing back to you on November 25th a um separate agreement with applied Aquatics they are a continuing contract provider that we have that does a lot of Shoreline work I know the commission is very interested in beautifying that Shoreline and making sure that we've got that looking is aesthetically pleasing and as activated as we can in this early phase so that is a uh going to be a scope of work to do mechanical removal of the emergent vegetation along that Shoreline so The Cattails the spatterdock you know the stuff that that kind of shields The View and the access from the lake um we expect that to be not to exceed contract of $100,000 to do the mechanical removal there's a tremendous amount of vegetation in there as you know we are already permitted to do that work so we will draw that down from that contingency as well uh to keep this project on task and on schedule and to meet the expectations of the commission okay T do we have a we had a uh a drawing of it uh is there one in there AJ I don't recall if there's we'll we'll put one into the slide deck um for Monday night so you can see exactly what that looks like we also um have some of the just recently received some aerial photography of that site under construction okay will it will it definitely show the shoreline I'll defer to Mr Palmer on that the Aerials if for if we can get those for Monday the Aerials actually do show the shoreline pretty well that we're just taking the other day and they show we can point out some of the areas that would be uh improved from the aals that were just taking so okay did that did that change from the original though the shoreline no no it's the drawing no so I thought there was an erosion issue that in the water line that originally was it was going to be further but then it was moved up I don't think we can we can do anything with moving a shoreline so you have you have the Dyke that that surrounds the lower field area and that's all being dug out now the Dyke remains but the those fields are being excavated out to that's the storm water component below um all the shoreline that existed behind the stadium and behind the um the minor league Clubhouse will be as the shoreline was walkway would that would that still be I know that was was going to be there generally speak yes the the entire site one of the as you saw the the walkway would be a paved loop trail the entire way around where the existing burm is where the lower fields are that burm will essentially that burm will stay in the same space it will actually get a little bit higher based on the design as that's the retention uh from the permitting side uh we permited this site was permitted everything from the burm and the shoreline in and and so we didn't permit anything if any future phases would take would take additional permitting and the shoreline work is more of a maintenance effort to so that's really where that but any additional work any would take further permitting probably through like the Army Corp if we got into the lake so that's why we kept it from the burm and the shoreline into the site so we could get that online I think you'll be you'll be very pleased um just hav gone out there today and driving through the site with the contractor the way that that where that trail will be the elevations that are there um commissioner dancer I know you're a a longtime baseball player and Enthusiast field three will be an absolute gem because once that is that Shoreline is kind of cleaned up there that is what you're looking right out towards from home plate it is absolutely gorgeous to see that Lake uh in in in this project compared to how little you could see it with the former Stadium when you expect to get rid of The Cattails and the weeds and well they'll do mechanical removal of whatever's emerging down there um you know harvesting that out and we'll dry it on site and then haul it off uh that will will certainly improve that but those the cypress trees and everything that's down there will remain it just gives a very picturesque view that'll help a lot with the mosquitoes and the spiders and the bugs if you can get rid of The Cattails and all that whatever you whatever you whatever you call those weeds I just call them cattails but if you get rid of all that junk I think you'll clean up a lot of the mosquito problems since since we don't actively spray for mosquitoes that's the County's job can we're going give you an update on that this evening okay so can we be proactive on that to where like that area during the summer months is sprayed more frequently like do we have to get under contract or can we do that on our own or just to be proactive on that site because I know you know sitting out there and prepping for a few other events in the evening you you literally get attacked so now that we're going to have so much movement and things on this property is it is there a way to be more proactive on fighting those so I'm going to defer to MJ to give you an update on on um the mosquito question you brought up before I think that certainly if we know we're going to have activity and we can get in in good communication with our County Partners if they're if they're willing to help us in that and when I say willing that's a matter of resources and a matter of what's the best environmental practice you know you don't go out and spray that area every weekend um without potentially having some negative impact of that so and I'm not the scientist to comment on it but I think that that's something we have to evaluate I jokingly said today that if we had naming rights for those fields Deep Woods Off or Skin So Soft might be a appropriate can candidates to approach um they could make a small fortune out there uh we had those times when we had baseball players building fires and dugouts to keep the blind mosquitoes away um so we're going to have to find some strategies for that but I'd like MJ to give you some updates on his discussions with County on mosquitoes yes good evening mayor and City commissioners um so as mentioned previously pul County manages mosquitoes in our area uh so we connected with their staff last week to talk about kind of what's Happening um up until hurricane Helen you know they collect data all over the county um they look at adult mosquito populations and larval populations um and up until about hurricane Helen they were seeing kind of a normal Trend in the population for this time of year but since then they've seen uh the adult populations tick back up as well as larval populations um they directly attribute that to standing water from storms uh so just more than you would normally have this time of year so they've been increasing their spraying and larvicide treatments um so they've been spraying in our area just recently they were spraying right before um Halloween and they'll be spraying again uh the week of the 18th and then they're doing larva side work in the area um in areas where there is standing water that is kind of unusual um and so that is that'll be they'll be in this area this week uh working on that so they're they're they're aware of those things they're working on those things they collect data to understand where that is they also take into account um customer concerns so if people call or have specific places like if we were to say hey this area at the the chain Lakes complex has or chain Lakes Park has more uh than usual they would look into that assess it and if it if it does then they would go ahead and uh do some treatment work there um I will add though you know the the 80s of gy tie mosquito that's the that's the one that really gets you at like the dusk times their their range is only like 1 to 200 yards so and they they're container bred mosquitoes so they're looking for little puddles of standing water um so for most residential areas the best defense against mosquitoes is just knocking down those that standing water that you may have around your house you know that's not those aren't mosquitoes that are living in Lakes necessarily or in big ponds these are these are kind of fine in little pockets of maybe you have a bmad outside of your front door and there's a little bit of water that gets held in there you know dealing with those things are the best way to deal with mosquitoes kind of in your general area um the spraying really deals with a different type of mosquito um but that's that's that was what the County control had said was that the best way to deal with it is really to focus on the areas around your home because those mosquitoes really don't travel very far that's a whole lot of science on mosquitoes so we'll have a test next Monday fluide too about fluide learned something all right so now we will go to the um strategic plan presentation and we're going to be I'm going to ask my staff to be rather quick with this because I want to be considerate of your time but you know we we're doing these updates so you can hear about some of the things we're trying to do that pertain to these strategic pillars so the one this evening is about um Community safety and and assistanc manager bird is going to lead a discussion on this I do want to encourage you to do one thing though um you're going to see some demonstrations here's some great information within our utilities and our in our it department on what's happening there um and and some great take aways you're also going to hear from what our Police Department on this new technology that we are unleashing for um virtual reality training if you have time afterwards and can stay around and test this out yourself we'll put you in the goggles we'll give you the taser and you can see how you know in in a gamified scenario how this all works and some of the it's not as easy as it looks certainly so with that Mr bird that was my walk-in music yeah there we go and again we'll we'll be considerate of your time so Community safety pillar I have the privilege honorable mayor and Commissioners I have the privilege of uh presenting to you uh updates and uh accomplishments of the community safety pillar with my team uh hip win and Mark uh bombard and his team so we'll jump right in uh updates on our Public Safety station 4 U as you can see that is uh about a week uh a week's about a week uh ago that that picture was taken station 4 is the one that's located at P State College off of Fairfax Street Northeast and uh I I'm happy to say again 85% completed I think we're closer to 90% completed now and um if it wasn't already poured in the next day or so the concrete slab will be poured at that station as well just to uh for your recollection that station is going to house safe neighborhoods police and a fire engine company that is currently working out of station one will be repurposed up to this station um we expect it to be operational early 2025 we are currently working on a um uh opening a grand opening for it we do not have a date for that as yet but we're planning for it and as soon as we have a date we will provide that to you uh for that ceremony fire station number five of course is the one that we are in uh design phase this will replace the current station that is off of Havendale Boulevard on Champions Church property uh um at the lake harridge uh Park area originally when this was brought before you we looked that if you can see where the uh the the boat ramp is there we had planned on the site being just north of that on a piece of property that the city owned right on the lake of putting the building on uh through our design team it was determined that that was not the best place to put it uh we looked at it you'll see the little red line with the the the yellow writing on it uh on your map that is currently the over uh the Overflow parking for boats and and people are visiting the park that will be the location for this station uh then where we had originally planned on putting on the north side of the of the boat ramp that will be the Overflow parking uh for for uh guests and and boat parking we uh are almost complete in the design phase uh we are waiting for uh the um GMP by the end of 20124 and then we'll be bringing that back before you for approval uh we are planning on a public meeting after that that public meeting is tentatively set to be uh on the Champions Church property for the uh residents that are in that area so that we can get them in there and we will give you that date we do not have a date set as of yet for that but you will be seeing this uh on your agenda very shortly um for your approval consideration any questions on the fire stations okay okay we'll move into the VR demonstration U I'm going to have uh sergeant rusich and inspector Bolton they'll come up they're going to uh prep their equipment you're going to get to see this thing uh live action I know commissioner doson kind of experienced this at one point so the rest of you are going to get to experience it and so I want to talk real quickly about the technological progression of this and how we got to here originally we started not yet I need my slide thank you okay I'm not that good so originally we started with an x26 that's what this is okay it was one cartridge you either had a yellow car a yellow tab on the front that said uh that was a 15 yard cartridge a 15ot cartridge a silver which was a 20 foot or a green that's a 25 foot so the officer whenever he would have to engage and this is a less than lethal uh weapon that we carry it's an alternative on our on our belts that we're able to go to uh to before we have to go to a lethal force and what the officer would have to do is pull this out depending on what color cartridge they had estimate how far away they were Point their gun their their taser and you see the little red dot there that's where the top probe would go and depending on how far away you are the spread would go um I'm not pointing at you I'm point it down there I promise you um uh depending on where how far they were that's when that that where that uh Second probe would hit if the officer missed for some reason they would have to then make the the the decision to either reload or go to a different tool sometimes that tool could be less U lethal Force if if if if it warranted that and they were very limited in this so while they're on the Fly they're trying to make a a a decision about how far away that is do I make the connection with the with the probes and uh and did I make the did I make the connection and did I get the the results that I'm looking for those results are called neuromuscular and incapacitation or nmi we progressed to the current one that we have now the uh taser 10 if you'll see uh uh inspector Bolton over there his taser is a white color he has a white uh firearm so this is a a technology that allows us to train with full equipment so depending So currently uh inspector Bolton is in in detective gear or detective uniform that we have so he would be training in the in the in what he would actually be responding as a police officer would then put this equipment into their gear their vest whatever the case may be the thing that's really uh different about this particular one let me go back to that those are completely inert so when he starts pointing this around during the demo you're not going to get hit hit with anything that can be a little unnerving but there's nothing that's going to come out of that taser okay so so is that goes around if he points at you don't worry about that this one on the other hand would be different um but the what makes this one completely different is that there's 10 uh projectiles that occur that have that are in these things so when the officer is uh engaging with a Target and he engages and he and he points that that that dot that you saw uh just a minute go that's right where that that probe is going to go he can immediately engage and put his taser on on target for to get that nmi that neuromuscular incapacitation by switching it down to the leg and he can fire right then he doesn't have to change the cartridge out if he misses he has eight other shots that he can take to get that neurom muscular incapacitation so this is incorporating you guys uh approved us to get the V R and these tasers and this is what that technology is so very quickly it's efficient and it's immersive training this gives the officers in their gear the ability to put that headset on and be in a real live scenario so before they even go out on the street with new equipment they're actually in a scenario and they have to make decisions within that scenario so that they can they can uh have better outcomes so they're not going in cold um it also it empow owers them to have more confidence because now they've had that that that training they've been immersed in it and they have very they have much more confidence whenever they're engaging someone it drives better Public Safety outcomes and it reduces cost you may say how does it reduce cost the x26 every year officers had to deploy two cartridges into a Target and that was how they showed proficiency this one there is no cartridge deployment it is completely VR and we can keep track of everything that they where they where they target how that works and then they can the the instructors can then go in and help U mitigate where their issues are or to improve upon their their aims and and and help them uh become more proficient in the usage of the other thing that's awesome about it is mobile training it can happen anywhere this is an example once they set that up that's the training location and they can train right here individually instead of an entire Squad having to come in they can pull them in every so often off the road so it's a lot more efficient in the training for the officers there's the ability to train employees outside of Public Safety we look at this as as as even more incorporate it can be utilized in the future for better training deescalation techniques and different stuff like that so you're about to see two scenarios the first scenario is a person in crisis you're going to be in two different modes whenever U uh investigator or inspector um Bolton uh goes live here in just a second he is going to be in the role of the person that is in crisis so you're going to be hearing the voices that this person's hearing all the chaos that's happening to this person while they're trying to and the sirens coming up as the uh as the officers now come in and and try to take over the situation and deescalate things so that puts the officer into the role of that person so that they can better understand have better empathy as to what's going on with them then you will see a transition where they're back in the officer mode and you're going to see the person that's in crisis and the officer is trying to deal with that person the second training uh scenario that you will see is an actual the actual training that the officers will do is a series that will show a green area which is the primary areas of Target that we want targeted and then sensitive areas that are yellow that we don't want the officers targeting so you will see where those taser probes actually uh engage or hit the person and that and that then gives the feedback to the instructor so that they can provide better training uh and proficiency for the officer in the training with that I'm going to turn it over to our two uh experts and Commissioners if I could what you see on your screen and what the audience sees on those monitors is what inspector Bolton is seeing through his VR headset this year nearly 1.5 million people will be diagnosed with schizophrenia around the world symptoms of psychotic break triggered by trauma drug abuse genetics or other fact characteristics may include agitation incoherent talking delusions and hallucinations individuals in the state may not rapidly respond to verbal commun Kevin would lie he's my best friend but I can disconnect it I won't let them get my head anymore I can't just unplug the cable box I need to unscrew the connection I'm not stupid I need to UNCW through the connection I need a screwdriver you just have to find it you always lose loser lost 4,000 satellites in space no one knows about them listen listen you don't listen listen listen you don't listen listen please just stop maybe they don't know the FBI makes YouTube take it down they take the video down they always take the video down but someone always puts it up again just have to find it hours I exhausted I cannot you always lose loser lost no listen to me please I you just listen to me I'm listen listen I need to know who sent you here maybe they who sent you here why are you here hey part are you working for them get back get back your hands up put your hands up stay right there stay right there get inside now go inside stay right there get on the ground now get on the ground you're re the scene is responding you be asked to make decisions as you are engaging the simulation consider your AGC use of force policy and proceed the information we have a mother calling for help she says his son is schizophrenic and currently off his men hey Diaz can you cut the lights off just need you toax I'm so worried about you you disconnected disconnected pleasee hello ma'am hello every time sent what's going on it's my son Kyle relax okay um who that you hey hey Kyle why you here why you here Kyle my name is Officer Morgan okay this is my partner officer is hey hey partner he's got a screwdriver he's holding a screwdriver in his hand he's got a [Laughter] screwdriver Kyle listen listen I want to talk to you but I need you to put that screwdriver down put put that screwdriver down just toss it to the side for me okay all right good thece so I can disconnect it K hey can K can you come talk to me please come pal come talk to me sir we're thank you K come come talk to me yeah there are there are thousands of privately owned satellite companies and if the citizens knew that the NSA and the tech companies we're stealing the information they're recording it they're beaming it up Kyle and I hear you all right Kyle is is it okay if we get you checked out tonight okay all right good mom do you mind coming over real quick yeah all right Kyle listen the important thing to remember is you're not in any trouble you haven't done anything wrong okay we just want you to be safe you want everyone your mom to be safe we're going to call the ambulance just have you go to the hospital and get checked out and we'll just take it from there all right does that sound all right yeah okay everything's okay Kyle you're doing a great job the paramedics are here these guys are professionals they're going to take great care of you and thank you for letting us help you tonight he successfully de escalated the situation by engaging verbally with the as Cal as possible he will receive appropriate treatment from emergency medical providers without injury to himself or others on the scene pretty interesting as we continue to release VR content we are also we will also provide our e-learning Academy out of your so Commissioners while this is loading this is the uh the portion that Mr bird spoke about where they actually test the tasers and their accuracy with performance do things look blurry if they do you can adjust the dial right in front of your nose until the screen comes into focus in this exercise you will train with different Target distances remember that the taser 10 is effective at up to 45 ft be sure to note the distance downrange of the target before deploying focalize Taser Taser Taser before deploying on each Target you must get two probes to make a connection to the Target for nmi with Taser 10 ready R tra Tas Tas it t t it Commissioners while inspector Bolton's doing this I'll interrupt for a second he can continue but this is these are these are um individuals that are not moving at you or cross in front of you or you know running or whatever the case may be if you if you do stay after and try this through the uh the gamification aspect and you have individuals that are coming at you and you're trying to get that spread it is a much different experience make safe and recover you have successfully completed the exercise be sure to review your after Action Report before exiting or restarting this training consult with your instructor if you have any questions reason that he showed you one where it's not full spread to to get neuromuscular capacity take oh sorry I didn't turn on to get neuromuscular incapacitation the better the spread into the big muscle masses is how you get compliance if it's too narrow then it becomes pain compliance and people can fight through that that's where a lot of your like stun guns and stuff like that don't work do you have any questions so again we'll give you an opportunity to demo this out yourself and you can see these guys are professionals excellent you know in in Marksmanship with the taser they they're they're instructors in this we don't expect them to miss but um it is not nearly as easy as Mr Bolton has shown here it looks easy it looks that way it's quite quite not you try um question um to fall from that distance it seems like that would be um a really injury for for you guys that would have to um look at that afterwards so are you talking about for the the person that's falling when they so neuromuscular incapacitation is exactly what you see there having been tased I know that Ru has been tased I think Charles has been tased you you go into every muscle in your body goes rigid you can't do anything you can't move a muscle and uh I I I always say that whenever I get tased I've done it a few times stupid um but whenever you get tased I feel like I've had a full body workout even my ears have worked out and and you are like in total just relaxation so when you go rigid like that and fall you're going to fall um we have certain guidelines within our policy that's also Guided by um State Statute of when we can tase like we don't tase in water things like that where someone can be submerged off of a second story things like that where we can try to mitigate so that we don't have as much injury but whenever you're whenever you're that's why it's called less than lethal because when you're trying to make the decision uh to incapacitate someone and you don't want to shoot them shooting has one one effect pretty much you're shooting to kill someone this is to mitigate that hopefully that they can come out is it is it free of injury no it can happen uh that that's part of it but the hope is is that we can that we can control it before it gets to a bad spot and then hopefully the person bad guy bad girl goes goes home with minor injury as opposed to having to shoot someone Chief I thought I was watching a scene from Hangover the way everybody shot those guys but I'm a little kidding but in Hangover those guys got hit and then they shook and they is that a stun gun and this is different this makes them like become real rigid and then they just fall over and yeah yeah if you get if you achieve NMR neuromuscular incapacitation um they're not moving they're rigid as a I mean it's um we we've seen bulls that go down like that and they they are I mean that's a a bull Rock Solid thing and it goes down and it it does move the ones where everybody shakes and they just can't move is that a different comp I think that that's Hollywood um if you frankly because there's there's Hollywood movies where they show taser and people pass out I've never seen anyone pass out from taser um the other fallacy is that you know you'll soil yourself um when everything constricts you don't usually soil yourself that might happen afterwards but that's not you know when when you hear that that's all um kind of a myth and so stun gun is basically a one point of contact if I took Eric and applied this that taser to him he it would hurt but it doesn't it doesn't make you it you still have function of all your muscles but he hits the ground how long does he stay stiff and can't move 5 seconds is it still 5 seconds and what you get you get 5 seconds but it's the longest 5 seconds in your life but then these guys got to go in there and jump in there put handcuffs on and make sure that they can maneuver and that's part of the training as well make sure that they maneuver around those um those those wires because once you complete the circuit you're part of the circuit and you're going down too oh okay interesting because the person is in movement partial spread is probably more the the reality that you would be dealing with no hopefully we're going to get the full spread that's why when Charles did the one and the person didn't go down they kind of went down because it's hurting then he redeploys a little bit further down the leg and then now you get the you achieve your nmi reason I said is because if you're moving generally people are moving so you know you don't have that you know still Target to pretty much hit to get that you know and uh you know full effect so generally speaking you may have more of the partial which means that the person may be on a knee and you may have to hit them again and the partial if that slows them down so that they can deploy that third that's what makes the beauty of this technology is because you have 10 different cartridges as opposed to one oh I missed and I've got to either reload go Hands-On pull a gun because he's coming back at me whatever the case may be now you have to readjust that's what makes this that's the beauty of this Tech technology yes so he can deploy right away if it's if it's just a a paying compliance yeah there were there were I don't know if there still concerns about you know person's um being tased or being and and it's suffering long-term effect or even uh including death um statistics as it relates to you know the the particular outcomes that can can result if you RTS yes sir there's a lot of uh science behind that um you know that's the um what's the term I'm thinking of the medical um I can't remember the name of it now but yeah there's a lot of science behind it um that's one of the reasons you see now that the chest is no longer a it's considered a a u spot to not shoot that's why it's yellow um before that was not the case um there's been people that have been Tak with P pacemakers everything else heart conditions not not bothering there's been people have been tased that that didn't have that and have heart attacks that's why that it it finally I think the courts have worked through that and that's why they have now uh developed you guys can if there's something more to it than that but um now that's why we stay away from those areas um just to add to that part of our training is to increase the distance between the what's called Dart Dart to Heart yes as was saying the chest area anything below the what they call the nipple line or the Rib Line anything below that split the hemisphere your belt belt line would be your hemisphere anything like the abdominal area thigh that's where you see the aiming stomach to thigh so it targets as muscle groups that increases the distance between the electrical contact and the heart now on any shot that is from person's back facing anything below the neck is is an improved Target area because you have that insulation from the body the large muscle structures and everything that go through the body uh on the back so it it achieves at a greater rate and it also increases the amount of safety so the dark one here one here understand that the the the the technology is this the electric electricity is lazy it's going to P travel the path of least resistance so it all it wants to do is complete the circuit it wants to go from here to here and that's where you get the nmi and that's why you're trying to get rid of like he said the heart to Dart you don't want it here you want it somewhere where it's not going to be where where the where the electrical current is is traveling like this and that's actually where you get the nmi because it's it's it's it's it's constricting your muscles the nmi overloads the nervous system and the sensory nervous system can't move the nerves yep so we're going to give you a chance again if you want to try this but I do want to make sure we have time for the rest of our presentation if we could and so Mark or who's Mark's I think the next one thank you so again when we talk about Community safety it's not just about law enforcement and fire and safe neighborhoods you know water safety is tremendous and in the quality we had great discussion about fluoride so Mark's going to give you an update on our lead and copper initiative yeah um good afternoon uh mayor and uh City City commissioners um uh in 2021 the Environmental Protection Agency imp implemented the lead and copper rules revision um requiring the public water systems to submit uh an initial report by October 16th of 20124 we accomplished that goal um we have 10 years from this date forward to be in total compliance um our team of uh operations manager Travis plake and water Lieutenant David uh Hernandez headed up the effort for this and um they're going to give you a brief overview of uh what we did to accomplish our report and uh some of the things we're doing to move forward good evening um I don't have anything as cool as that but it is equally as important um so as Mark said the EPA released the Le and copper rule January of 2021 and with that we were required to do a lead inventory on all water services in the City of Winter Haven um excuse me and with that we met our goal on October 16th of doing our first set of soft digs and then we also used which you guys approved uh predictive modeling and we were able to get our numbers down or our numbers together anyways to report um when we did our soft digs we found we did all schools and uh licensed daycares uh P primarily we did that first sorry wow and uh we did that first and we found one school that had a lead service line and we immediately replaced and then um we proceeded to do our soft digs um with the task force that we created from each individual work group within the utility so the Wastewater guys you know Water Guys construction guys we had a guy from LT stations helping out to combat this um goal we had to meet uh so the task force was created and we found um during our soft EGS we found 11 other uh lead service lines um with that we were able to get those replaced before the October 16th deadline as well um so we are fully compliant up to that point and then um as I mentioned we we use leg cast through trinex and and that predictive modeling allows us to do just a few digs and eliminate or leave as unknown uh Services uh it allows us to put all that together and um get like do two digs and eliminate 20 homes or conclude that 20 20 homes need further investigation um so during the first round of predictive modeling we did 250 service line digs so we went through the areas uh that trinx commended and we went and did the soft EGS U then we went for a second a second round and we had 415 soft EGS um and which with that we use the VAC trucks that we have and to make it faster um you know and again we had the cruise just running all day long most days I think we would do roughly around 10 to 13 soft digs um so just to get in before that deadline and where we are now like Mark said we did submit our um our findings on time to the health department who is who we have to send it through we got the approval that they did receive it and we came away that we have currently 13,626 unknown service lines where we do not know the material um and we also suspect that up to 3617 homes do have a lead service line so with that we're going to continue to dig identify and start getting the word out you know by the requirements of the rule and um with that I do have a couple goodies um if if they are a lead service line and they have um we we replace it we got to send them a letter informing them that we are going to be replacing the service line affec in your home and then we have so many days to notify them and then after 45 days we can perform the work and once we perform the work we have to supply them with a uhoh a bre filter approved BR of filter to to for them to use for drinking water um and they have to they follow requirements of flushing different times of flushing which um you know we're working through some of that giving um credits to allow for you know them to flush and not charge them on the bill for something that's been mandated to them and required uh and then after that we have every six months we have to replace their cartridge until if they have galvanized behind their meter to their house we have to replace that that cartridge in that filter every 6 months until that galvanized is replaced if it's PVC we do not we're still giving them a filter to bring peace to you know bring them at ease that this Yep this is found but here's a filter that you can work through and after 6 months they're good but if it's galvanized behind that Galvanize is required to be replaced as well because it was serviced by the lead and so they will get they'll get a picture initially and then every six months that has the filter has to be replaced and we are required to provide them with that filter so it's it's not a small task um with the numbers that I provided we you know we're hitting it every day every day we get a chance we're going at it amongst everything else that uh happens within the utility you know hurricanes and those types things but we are we are giving our best effort and we are staying right on top of it and the goal is like Mark said we have 10 years to meet this and we will guaranteed meet that so Commissioners again this lead and copper rule this is Nationwide EPA requirement we were talking about EPA earlier um certainly commissioner Mercer understands this from she's having to do the same thing in dunde um the you know this is these are service lines that are you know pre1 1980 that were put in and you're having to go back and address those now um out of an abundance of caution and and to make sure we're safeguarding everybody going forward that's the brda filter approach to that um you know nothing has changed within our water system within the you know recent months or years this is what's historically been in the ground and and and the cause for that so um what we're doing and what what Travis just shared with you whether or not they're doing this in every municipal or or uh public utility across the country this is what the requirement is to exactly what we have in play today so I think if you were to look at other communities around us you should see the exact same activity going on I I get that it's required and we have to do it my concern is the unintended consequences so when you go and start rattling a pipe and then something busts or pops and goes towards the the resident's home inevitably they're going to call and say now my water's not as clean as it once was before or I don't have the same amount of pressure or or whatever it it's inevitable it'll happen right so do we have a plan to address those situations as they occur they have a plan for you you have to replace every one of them in 10 years I'm not dis I I get I get that we have to I get that we have to do let me let me mayor pretend let me try and put you at ease best I can you know you're always going to have those people that say you know you came out and you worked on my line and now something's different about it okay right you know that's making sure that what we're doing in the field we're documenting um we're following precise protocols and procedures to make sure we're doing it accurately we're holding ourselves accountable through our supervisors and our crew leaders that are out there and when we have um those complaints that come back in we investigate them and if if there's something that we're at fault for then certainly we take responsibility for that and if we're not then we don't um I I I wish I could say that everybody um I there are no people out there that are unscrupulous and and want to take advantage of a situation we'll always have that and we'll always um ensure that we are fulfilling our end of the deal in how we approach that and I I guess I'm just I just don't want our first response to be okay well now you need to call a plumber and check and figure it out I I want us to try to figure out the solution first and hopefully it doesn't happen ever or but I'm I'm sure that it will happen at least once and there will be times when you know things are going on with somebody's residents and we have to direct them to a plumber because that's on their side of the system and we need them to to investigate that from their side it may have nothing to do with anything that we've done and you know we've experiened that um in in situations we will work with our customers and try and Achieve resolution the best way we possibly can um you know this is there's 13,000 of these that are out there that are unknown that doesn't mean there's 13,000 lead connections that are out there that means that these are areas that we have not been able to ascertain and verify is it or is it not so we have to declare it as an unknown until we can clear it from the system can I something I had a quick question here um and I know you jumped up in a hurry you you definitely got something you want to say but yeah I I wanted to help answer Brian's go ahead D come to the microphone please yes immediately whenever we disturb uh any lead service there's an automatic protocol per EPA standard so we follow that which is immediate flushing and informing the homeowner that we disturb the the service line uh what we often do is we offer a a lead sample kit that gets Dr off off at the door and uh we basically send it to the lab to confirm that there is in fact that the water is good to drink thank you one thing has not changed though is that you are not going beyond the uh RightWay so to speak right between the between the meter and the home that's on the resident that's right right that's right that has not changed no sir that has not changed I I get it I'm just I'm throwing caution out there that in anytime you go out and disturb something that was pre1 1980 you're you're you're lot you're you're potentially you know whatever debris is out there in the ground gets into the pipe and heads back to the home well that wouldn't have happened unless we replaced it which I get it it it's a it's a revolving door I get it and that my my concern is just for the homeowner and I just want to be sure that we're being proactive in those instances and doing everything that we can on our end and and to that real quick we absolutely do no matter what the material of the water main or water service is out there if we disturb it any shape or form if it's a break if a contractor hits it if we're doing flushing um you know we're scouring the mains cleaning the mains we automatically go to and flush if it's if it's on the service line we go to the houses that are fed off that service line and we flush like again no matter what the um material is and sometimes we're not successful sometimes something does slip by and you know and we do advise the plumber to or the customer to call a plumber and then we work through that with them at the same time I I got two questions yes a while back we had a discussion about asbest and asbest lines is that an issue have you looked at that and and I'll and I'll I'll couch up with my second question you you've got a a Britt of water filter and I'm surprised that that's all we have to do is give everybody a water filter to drink their water but does that water filter clearly it gets out lead because that's what it's for but does it get out asbest does it get out fluoride you know we've already had a discussion about fluoride is it that kind of a filter or is it just all about just getting out the lead I'm sorry I it's about getting the lead out not lead Zeppelin but getting the lead out um so that's why I laugh every time I hear that but yes sir the ASB bestus um we we do have that and we every year we are in our CIP typically we're trying to replace as much as best this pipe as we can um it's quite costly U we have I I dare not guess the miles I I have a rough number but I don't want to be completely wrong U but we do have quite a bit of asbest water mains uh in the system and we all I mean not that it really matters but we do have asbest uh Force Mains for the pump off the pump stations in the system which I know that one for a fact is down to about 1.2 miles left and that's it um and the reason it's a little bit less is or a lot bit less is because over time the brakes and the gases uh from the sewer they have eaten the top out of it the last big replacement we really big replacement we had was on Lake Howard which we actually replaced some more on Lake Howard this year but about 15 to 18 years ago we replaced a long segment of it on Lake Howard and it was all rotted out on the top and every time we' make a point repair it would just pop again right down the way and flush out into Lake Howard so the so those filters only they're not geared to get out asbest no sir only BL in my years of doing this and I'm not a water plant guy um so I don't I don't test the water but I've never heard nor seen of someone getting a positive test on asbest and they're drinking water okay well I'm just surprised and we might people might have to use those filters for a year right or two or longer longer then that's and we're compliant with the government I mean my goodness that's doesn't include ice for your ice maker or or you know brushing your teeth I mean my goodness just one Brit of filter yes sir there so there was options there's a couple options and we met with City management and one of the options was this uh pitcher with filter and the other option was a filter that screwed on to your um sink and the discussion was that if my 95y old grandmother got delivered one of those how would she ever get that on her sink so we figured it is best served to go one way and one way only where everyone has the opportunity they don't have to spend more money to get a plumber or their neighbor to hook it up they can do it right here with this and okay well and and we're tracking all the addresses we're we're tracking it through our work order system they've been given the letter they've been given the filter okay in six months we get a flag hey it's time to deliver them the next filter and if during that time we we clear that residence we've done the soft digs we verified okay that went from an unknown to a known non-led right or a known lead then we we adjust our approach on because they get a filter doesn't mean they're in danger it just means we're being precautionary right correct and that we can tell people look doesn't mean you necessarily have lead pipes and you're drinking lead well and I would would not say that you're drinking lead period I would say that it's the issue of do you have a lead pipe connection that's the issue at hand is is there a lead pipe connection on our side of the meter and as crazy as the rule is if if on our side it's lead and on your side it's PVC to the house if we replace the lead once it's done we we give you your six months of filter and it's done you do the flushing it's over if it's galvanized that's been serviced by the lead on our side that's when that continues until the customer replaces all the way up to the dwelling they don't have to replace underneath and you know do over the head pipe or nothing just up to the dwelling okay I got it just one more thing um on the we in in water you test for lead and copper and we've always went out every two or three years and you designate and pick out certain customers and test for lead and copper um we and it's part of the testing of the over 100 and some um tests that you run every um day almost every month every week something like that on these uh but the thing is is that if your home was built after 1989 uh you don't have leaden copper because they made the rule the lead and copper in it but they've upgraded it now to even include more um you don't have lead and copper because EPA did a ruling that it would not you could not use that type of materials as a pipeline anymore so uh we're just working with the older homes that have the lead and copper issue and some of those have been replaced they've either had to replace them due to leaks or whatever and we've replaced lines on our side for the same reason and it's PDC now so those are you know exempt I just make one additional point if I could we're not talking about a lead service line that's running you know 30 40 50 ft this is a goose neck connection coming off of the main that is going to the meter so that's that's where that comes into play right so anyone else Travis we move on to the next item for us yes sir um so moving from um obviously very public forward public facing and transparency in the L copper we're going to move to some cyber security stuff which is very dark and hidden um in 2018 um the Environmental Protection Agency required Public Water Systems to create a risk and resilience and emergency response plans these plans um are evaluated annually and must be updated in every June this coming June um 2025 will be the 5-year anniversary um and we're required to update it emphasis will be on cyber security in this update in advance of the update the City contracted with our cyber security consultant a20 to evaluate our nine water plants and our two Wastewater plants uh we re recently received the draft report which um included which will be included in the risk and resilience uh update coming up in um tonight hip is here to further explain um how cyber security works and what was uh what the findings were good evening mayor uh the commission um it's my pleasure to give an update on our cyber security efforts um as you know uh the every city of our size is required to do an anation on um the cyber security framework uh the city commission did so at by resolution last year uh adopting nist or the National Institute of Standards technology is basically a set of best practices that help guide our cyber security efforts and so we use this extensively to implement our program um the N framework is primar comprised of five uh areas of controls so on there in terms of uh identify or identification uh see what the your vulnerabilities are get some uh do an assessment of what those items are uh Implement Technologies to help protect and detect uh cyber security threats U create a a way to be able to properly respond to threats as they do occur and then a method to to perform recovery in case of uh a cyber security attack so this framework guides our behavior and I will talk about two major initiatives uh one with which Mark uh Mr Bomar mentioned uh in terms of uh working as part of this framework so the first is the assessment side so this as Mr bomber mentioned uh we did a uh an assessment that came off of the risk and resiliency assessment that assessment identified cyber Security's risk for further exploration particularly to our critical water infrastructure so this assessment is a water operations assessment uh the primary two uh goals are to uh identify the physical security so cyber security is pretty broad one aspect is how do we physically secure our facilities and the other is what's called operational technology which is the technology that we use to run the Water Systems so the technology that we use in the Water Systems is is very unique and different from our typical office environment these are devices that are put in place that are meant for um long-term use they're not typically updated very often so there's a very unique method and certain very unique uh challenges that we face with that operational technology and the nice thing about the the assessment is they've actually provided Ed recommendations and steps for us to help us reduce our cyber security vulnerabilities in respect to the critical infrastructure of our water system also part of the uh NIS framework we met we talked about recovery um and so this year we engage with a security vendor that helps us build business continuity Services um so we have a large piece of software called our Erp we our public administration software that is used for our financial Human Resources building customer service uh water account services um that system we as part of the business continuity Services it allows us to be able to survive in the case of a catastrophic attack so what happens is we keep a copy of the take a copy of the apre database and we securely send it to the security vendor so every night we send a copy and then in the case of a catastrophic disaster we're able to take the copy and spin it up or um activate it into remote servers and as long as we have internet connection we could securely connect to those servers and be able to perform our functions so imagine if we had a catastrophic disaster whether a natural disaster or cyber security attack we could perform payroll we can go and gain access that those records are safe and so this is part of that recovery process of what what if we mooved from you know Jetson The Flintstones how would we be able to continue to operate and those are things that typically is important for every um um organization is how do we continue operations what's called continue operations or business op continuity um so those are the two major uh elements that we've uh uh implemented this year uh definitely in terms of uh future steps we're continuing to implement um recommendations or the using the NIS guidelines as a as a a blueprint for us to continue uh definitely we'll see more implementations of Technologies um you know required uh training for uh employees U so those are things that we're looking forward in the future and I stand here to uh for any questions you may have any questions so Commissioners I would just add to that that you know there's a whole lot we do within cyber security that we we won't talk about in public and we won't share out um but this gives you I think a pretty good overview of the seriousness of our cyber security operations and how that plays in um I know we went a little long tonight but I think it's important that you hear you know when we talk about Community safety it is introducing new technologies and new uh training opportunities for our law enforcement um building new facilities for fire the safety of our consumers on the water side and what we're doing to protect our technological assets so hopefully you you found this engaging and in some good takeaways yeah well I'm really uh glad to see this and to know about this because we had there was a city um I think in hburg county that was the water department that was city of olmore yeah had an attack they and it it went and that was a different type of cyber security threat in which it went in and took control of the instrumentation and controls of their water plant operations it wasn't as much a financial Cyber attack is it was a control Cyber attack that um could have been catastrophic for a water system I will tell you I went you know I go to that fmit annual conference and one two years ago out in Portland we had a whole half a day on this on how to protect ourselves those QR codes that we were talking about they said those things are terrible they they they can embed all kinds of nasty stuff in those QR codes and and um and it's a big big expense at fmit protecting our members against this kind of stuff it's becoming you know the premiums now this for for us to buy insurance on this is becoming Strat 4 skyrocketing so it's a problem and I'm glad you're on it yet because it every conference I go to with fmit has has op has all about this on there so it's a problem well I hope you will all sleep a little better at night with this little bit of insight on cyber security I think our police officers um have set up in the conference room if you do want to test that out if you've got a little bit of time say it's worth your while but if not I certainly respect your time as well last thing I'd mention um mayor and Commissioners is just reminder that tomorrow we have uh state of the city address that doors open at 8:00 a.m. at the rich theater downtown and the program begins at uh 8:30 uh hopefully we'll have you out there between 10: and 10:30 um to carry about your business but we have a good program lined up for you tomorrow morning all right Mr Mayor one quick question have we closed on the lot with Bobby Cameron oh good good I'm glad you brought that up so we have not and Eric is departed it looks like um let me bring something back to you Monday night on that what I've been told is that um the do portion of that that that was not a straight out that they would make that available to Mr Cameron their process required them to bid that out M and it went to somebody else um the adjacent property owner did was that that's I thought that was the where the one with the m mural on the building well what about the land directly behind that corner he didn't known any of it oh I thought he no okay so I don't know if that killed the deal that Bobby would have been interested in because that small parcel that the city owned was not you know it's not a value without the other one but we didn't have we didn't have the selling rights of that other one the do did and that's their protocol and process and I didn't realize who it had gone to but I did hear that it had gone to a different buyer I kept thinking if we get the land address right behind that we now we have something big enough to do something with if we could acquire that but whatever another day we'll talk about it later anyone else and then we'll have reports and emergency am is not receive for the agenda I entertain a motion for ad joyment come in